Eric is absolutely correct! Conceiving the scene in your mind first, the rhythm, the gestures, the flow, and then executing the concept, will always lead to stronger, more heartfelt and more inspired work than if you plan it out on the computer, piecemeal. Technology is a crutch, the more you use it the less skill you develop.
@HDibbles That's not necessarily true. Mark Henn and Glen Keane can zip through footage like crazy. Mark Kennedy recently mentioned how Glen produced 50 feet a week on Aladdin.
@HDibbles Yeah, I don't know how many people followed up Glen's work and it's not an apples to apples comparison. In general my point is that there are amazing animators today just as there were amazing animators 60 years ago. Maybe fewer great really great ones though.
My point exactly, I was just trying to say that the animators of old had to be really great because they produced higher quality animation and with way less technology. With the exception of Japanese Animation which has only progressed and is the world's best in my opinion
japanese animation is nowhere near being the best IMO. This is coming from a huge anime fan. Anime although it looks lovely it is nowhere near as fluid and imaginative as disney. Disney animators are masters of the art.
@HDibbles The only "resources" Glen had were pencil, paper and his brain. He did not rely on a pencil tester-- which on that film consisted of a primitive video re
@jeremyhopkins Ub Iwerks and Bill Nolan could crank out 500 to 700 ready for inking drawings per day (Ub even animated the first Mickey Mouse cartoon on two weeks notice, ALL BY HIMSELF) and Ken Harris and Bob McKimson of Warner Bros. could crank out 25 to 40 to 50 feet of film a week--in fact, the Warner Bros. cartoon employees had to crank out at least 400 drawings per week or be fired.
@SparkyMK3 Sure, I've heard the stories about Ub cranking out footage though it was much more simplified style of animation and yes, the 40 to 50 feet sounds about right for WB animators. I'm not a historian so I don't know the specifics. My general point to HDibbles was that there were great animators in the past just like there are great animators today with each generation facing their own challenges. The audience doesn't care about the speed of the animator, they only want to be entertained.
Hahaha. This is great- I'm the animator who asked this question and one of the ones, actually. You can here me saying "In terms of performance, you mean?" at 0:42. Awesome- Thanks for posting these!!
could you provide the subtitles or captions in your text of what's eric saying? or at least the main concepts and words he say are important to handle in 2d animation.. he said something about old school methods to pre-view the timings, what are they called? I'm just learning english and there is so much noise in the background.. and i'm interested in studying animation.. thank you :)
I didn't make this vid, but if you're interested in studying animation, I suggest you buy his book "Character Animation Crash Course!"--It's probably one of the best animation books in print.
Eric is absolutely correct! Conceiving the scene in your mind first, the rhythm, the gestures, the flow, and then executing the concept, will always lead to stronger, more heartfelt and more inspired work than if you plan it out on the computer, piecemeal. Technology is a crutch, the more you use it the less skill you develop.
saturnaspider 2 months ago
Eric Goldberg is a genius!
FlippytheMasterofPie 10 months ago
i just met him today!!, he had an amazing lecture in our college today. I complemented his shirt(same one in the video). He is amazing!
mo389 1 year ago
Animators from back in the day did so much more then animators now and with way less resources
HDibbles 1 year ago 2
@HDibbles That's not necessarily true. Mark Henn and Glen Keane can zip through footage like crazy. Mark Kennedy recently mentioned how Glen produced 50 feet a week on Aladdin.
jeremyhopkins 1 year ago
Yeah, cuz he had way more resources
HDibbles 1 year ago
@HDibbles Yeah, I don't know how many people followed up Glen's work and it's not an apples to apples comparison. In general my point is that there are amazing animators today just as there were amazing animators 60 years ago. Maybe fewer great really great ones though.
jeremyhopkins 1 year ago
My point exactly, I was just trying to say that the animators of old had to be really great because they produced higher quality animation and with way less technology. With the exception of Japanese Animation which has only progressed and is the world's best in my opinion
HDibbles 1 year ago
@HDibbles Gotcha
jeremyhopkins 1 year ago
@HDibbles
japanese animation is nowhere near being the best IMO. This is coming from a huge anime fan. Anime although it looks lovely it is nowhere near as fluid and imaginative as disney. Disney animators are masters of the art.
mo389 1 year ago
@mo389 You've never seen Afro Samurai?
HDibbles 1 year ago
@HDibbles
of course i have, and its great. I still stand by my point ,especially as someone who studies animation.
mo389 1 year ago
@HDibbles The only "resources" Glen had were pencil, paper and his brain. He did not rely on a pencil tester-- which on that film consisted of a primitive video re
thetruth3574 1 year ago
@jeremyhopkins Ub Iwerks and Bill Nolan could crank out 500 to 700 ready for inking drawings per day (Ub even animated the first Mickey Mouse cartoon on two weeks notice, ALL BY HIMSELF) and Ken Harris and Bob McKimson of Warner Bros. could crank out 25 to 40 to 50 feet of film a week--in fact, the Warner Bros. cartoon employees had to crank out at least 400 drawings per week or be fired.
SparkyMK3 1 year ago
@SparkyMK3 Sure, I've heard the stories about Ub cranking out footage though it was much more simplified style of animation and yes, the 40 to 50 feet sounds about right for WB animators. I'm not a historian so I don't know the specifics. My general point to HDibbles was that there were great animators in the past just like there are great animators today with each generation facing their own challenges. The audience doesn't care about the speed of the animator, they only want to be entertained.
jeremyhopkins 1 year ago
Captain Hook at 2:16?
mlaunder 1 year ago
Hahaha. This is great- I'm the animator who asked this question and one of the ones, actually. You can here me saying "In terms of performance, you mean?" at 0:42. Awesome- Thanks for posting these!!
VanessaBuldowski 2 years ago
could you provide the subtitles or captions in your text of what's eric saying? or at least the main concepts and words he say are important to handle in 2d animation.. he said something about old school methods to pre-view the timings, what are they called? I'm just learning english and there is so much noise in the background.. and i'm interested in studying animation.. thank you :)
antonigeno 2 years ago
A lotof what he is referring to as far as exposure sheets, and what not is discussed in his book as well as other animation themed "how-tos"
TheBmoChannel 2 years ago
I didn't make this vid, but if you're interested in studying animation, I suggest you buy his book "Character Animation Crash Course!"--It's probably one of the best animation books in print.
adamantagnostic 2 years ago
lolz @ captain hook in the background
RafiAnimates 2 years ago