what the fuck, what type of pilots are those? they could not see a BIG ASS BLOCK OF ALUMINUM? and seriously how the fuck they can not see at least a couple of soldiers on the ground?
@04GUITARPLAYER04 They did see them, they just mistook them for the wrong side. Sad mistake, no doubt, but that's just part of the "fog of war" they were talking about. It's the ground man's job to direct the pilot, all the pilot would see would be a vague truck-like shape and some little dots (the soldiers), there's no way they'd be able to tell from thousands of feet away "oh yeah, those are ours", they'd be nothing but a little speck on the ground to the pilot.
@04GUITARPLAYER04 I have my doubts that pilots flying a jet at close to 400 miles an hour at an extreme minimum of one thousand feet away, most likely tens of thousands of feet would be able to tell. find a football field and then park a car three full fields away...would YOU be able to tell the make and model from there? Now, do the same thing while zooming past faster than the speed of sound. That's WHY they need ground direction, to a pilot it's just dots on the ground.
I love how they go to commercial break every three minutes and then spend the next two minutes repeating what happend before the break. Just how many breaks are there and why do they think the audience is so mentally challenged that it can't follow the story? It is outright ridiculous. Plus I don't like the tone of the narrator's voice. It is just disrespectful.
what an idiot you are... at that elevation all you see is a dark blob, you cant tell an APC from a tank or a pick up, not that a moron like you would ever know anything about battle.
@IDFArmor the fucking iraqi's are too poor to have any armoured vehicles. how stupid can anyone be to even believe iraqi's have a convoy. they blend in with the population and its their only escape why would they even try to show their presence with a mother fucking convoy. americans hardly think! no wonder they have the lowest iq out of all developed countries
wow, you blame other people of ignorance while you are talking like a moron...
iraq had one of the biggest armies in the world, thousands of soviet made tanks and APCs that were used throughout the war especially at its earliest stages.
there have been many occasions where they decided to engage using traditional military means.
blame americans on being dumb all you like, you're the one judging others without ever leaving your home or experiencing a damn thing.
@IDFArmor guess what...they knew they weren't facing the army. it was clear the enemy was causally dressed and was no former fighting force. they were facing poor islamic extremest that believe everyone who isn't muslim should die. now mind you these guys are no army at all they are a racial organization. intelligence on the mission had to have been gathered before the men even deployed the operation, if they knew the enemy was armed and withing the city. do the army live in the city?
iraqi insurgents used alot of weaponry abandoned by the iraqi army, i'd like to know how YOU of all people know exactly where every iraqi armored vehicle was at the time...
i'll tell you this much: during my service in the gaza strip we encountered enemy light armor, and NO ONE expected that, so thats just more evidence to show you that what happened here was an honest mistake.
and yes, the iraqi army can movie into a city if it wants...
@IDFArmor i will say again. they knew they were not facing an army. and i dont know where the every iraqi armoured vehicle is and i never claimed to have known. not only that if you were in their positions (since you claim you've done service) would you have located friendly before you send an airstrike? if not than you should have been with these marines because your just as dumb if you wouldnt even bother. everybody knows as a good operator do avoid danger close
@imperialomen No, it is not against the Geneva Convention, or the Hague convention, or anything else. The only things specifically banned are chemical weapons (such as mustard gas or anything thing else that causes asphyxiation to kill). Hollow point bullets are banned under the Hague Convention of 1899. White Phosphorous, Napalm, and Cluster Bombs are banned against the use of civilians under the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1983. Depleted Uranium is not banned under anything.
@gp556by45 you are correct and i was was too brief in making my comment. At the time the military was not officially admitting to using DU Ammo even though it is not illegal to do so. There is a strong world wide movement to ban this type of ammo in order to minimize the exposure of people to radiation and admitting to using this Ammo in war is controversial. i bow before your greater knowledge in hindsight i was "spinning " the message that I intended to make, that was a mistake.
@imperialomen On that fact, DU ammunition should be taken out of inventory, and I believe there IS sufficient evidence of the adverse health affects on the people that are exposed to it in any capacity. The reason that it is continued to be used is that it is the hardest known material we can make armor piercing rounds out of, short of Tungsten, so the replacement process has been agonizingly slow.
wow, what a completely FUBAR mission from start to finish. Maybe we should just hire the GERMANS to fight for us. At least they wouldn't shoot at each other.
its a day mission, i doubt the pilots used thermal imaging, but what does make sense is some smoke grenades, i dont know what color americans use for casualties, but lob a few of those around and it could help...
maybe they didnt have any, and maybe it all just happened too fast.
The A-10s are the same plane that took out my uncle's four friends during the Battle of Khafji during the first Gulf War. A USAF A-10 struck Maverick missiles on US Marine light armoured vehicles and blew it up competely. My uncle was mad about it and had to be treated in a near a Khafji hospital.
@leemeires Actually Britain lost around 47 military personnel in the Gulf War. 39 to enemy fire and nine to friendly fire. Nine of them were killed in one incident when two USAF A-10 warplanes attacked two British Warrior armoured vehicles.
Friendly fire has been the lowest in Iraq and Afghanistan war. In fact, more British lives has been saved by the USAF than it has been killed. It's just that the British media blew it out of porportion.
HOW CAN YOU NOT TELL A BIG GREEN GIANT ALV ? AND SHOULD IF YOUR DAMN 30 MMM GUN CANT TAKE IT OUT AND IT MUST BE US ARMORED VEHICLE YOU BECAUSE INSURGENTS DON'T OWN ANY ARMORED VEHICLE THAT CAN TAKE 200 30MM ROUNDS.. OOH COME ON. I BET THOSE CHAIR FORCE GUYS ARE TRIGGER HAPPY... I BET YOU THEIR MOTTO IS . ( IF THEY DON'T FLY, THEY HAVE TO DIE )
@Vietboy1st It wasn't those pilots fail, dude. and our motto isn't what you claimed it to be. don't be ignorant - those pilots were doing what they were told to do. if that Marine FAC had his shit straight and the comms weren't all fucked up, that would not have happened, so don't go putting the blame on the air force. My best friend was an AMTRAC driver in Nazaria that day and he blames us too. It's fucked up but it was the Marines' fault for not checking where his people were.
I am in the Marine and i have to say that the air force did it job it the infantry dude that gave wrong information. i have been in street combat and there no time for bullshit so if you think it a enemy you got to take him out.
I was there. Just as the video sad, the FAC did NOT know that Charlie was that far north. As far as he knew, no one was north of Bravo who was stuck in the bog. Charlie made the decision to go to the north bridge over the canal and had no comm to tell anyone(C7, comm truck was with bravo and in the bog, no comm). So the FAC cleared the A-10's based on the knowledge that no US forces were on the Northern bridge....It's called war....
@TheAmatorn It was a stupid communication, I thought america had the better communication and GPS equipment. What a waste of time being there and gets killed by your own people
I was there. Just as the video sad, the FAC did NOT know that Charlie was that far north. As far as he knew, no one was north of Bravo who was stuck in the bog. Charlie made the decision to go to the north bridge over the canal and had no comm to tell anyone(C7, comm truck was with bravo and in the bog, no comm). So the FAC cleared the A-10's based on the knowledge that no US forces were on the Northern bridge....It's called war....
wow again friendly fire just like in ww2 it seems to me us marines have really bad intelleigience when the fog of war is there NVR CALL Air support always sent ARMOURED CARS like the Spanish ArmY armoured scout cars
The Airforce is fucking retarded. Kings of friendly fire. Here's a fucking idea. When you see a goddamn AMTRAC painted in Marine Camouflage with guys in desert helmets and woodland MOPPs engaging RPG team in the alleyways, they are probably friendly.
@yesiamawizardjonny uh, u do realize its kinda hard to tell from the cockpit of a plane right? they are pretty high up in the air and if they do get close, they are going to fast to focus on a single person. im not trying to excuse their mistake. im simply pointing out that ur a fucking dumbass. lol
@calebinoutlook Also, Friendly vehicles use pink air-tarps on the hoods of the victor. This is specifically for identification for aircraft above. These guys need to watch what they fucking engage. You're the dumbass.
@yesiamawizardjonny dude. its war. mistakes always happen. tell u what. since u think ur so much better than them. why don't u go join the Air Force. that way the mistkae will never happen again huh?
@yesiamawizardjonny u wouldn't? oh. i see how that makes sense. ur willing to let others die just cause i don't wanna do something boring. just so u can fire ur M16. lol. u have no right insulting others if thats how u look at things.
@calebinoutlook I didn't say I was willing to let others die you fucking idiot. I said I wouldn't want to be in the airforce. It's the same concept as people choosing their branch of service. The Airforce doesn't interest me. So here's a suggestion: Take the cocks out of your ears and mouth and fucking listen for once you gimp.
@yesiamawizardjonny "take the cocks out of your ears" seriously? lamest insult of all time. haha. ur retarded. i hope u do join the Marines (or whatever u wanna join) and make a huge mistake and get famous for it. that way u can't talk shit about stuff u don't know shit about.
Stupid USAF kill more marines than Iraqis. A-10 AF pilot, protected with titanium cockpit, could afford to fly low and slow for visual confirmation. Who is the stupid ground commander who ordered all tanks to refuel and leave combat zone, leaving ground troops naked in the midst of battle? Why didn't any top commander send an advance scout team to evaluate the soft muddy path prior to making that the attack path for armor vehicles? Amateur and stupid Commander should be courtmartial.
lol friendly fire ...i didnt expectt it from da most advanced army in the world ....and
Um okay so an Air force attack the most devistating type of attack kills atleast 1 ?? wtf either tell us real number or...i mean U,S army hates showing casualty numbers ..and its friendly so actually either their airforce sux to hit ....and wait wait iwat ...In the first place the pilot saw some tanks and vehicles ...Iraqis are gangs and clans how the hell did he think they aint friendly dumb fuck
Alright you guys insulting the air forces pilots. Do you think that at that speed and altitude that you can differentiate targets. Trust me...look out of an airborne airliner and imagine doing at twice as fast and low to ground while flying, and fighting..
Damn, this mission was a major disaster. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. I know how it is to have bad comm too. My truck's radio wasn't working to well and I got lost from my convoy but we stopped by some amtracks behind us and they went back to get us cought back up with them. Needless to say the convoy commander wasn't too happy, but we explained the situation and got our comm fixed.
You know you give a Air force Pilot a multimillion dollar plane and a 5 year old idea of what the enemy looks like,,, Now give all the Air Force pilots a picture of American military verticals! and some crayons to color them in. THIS IS JUSY STUPID.
A-10's have a well deserved bad reputation for shooting their own forces. They also have a well deserved positive reputation for massacring the enemy. Honestly though, amtracks have a very distinctive shape for an armored vehicle; there should have been no way for those pilots to mistake those vehicles for enemies.
is that what you call friendly fire they almost kill the platoon squad..no wonder its always happen this action...tsk tsk tsk..bad call....i salute the dead marine....
@gdurant if you paid attention they said "forward controllers" which in other words are combat controllers, which therefore are a group of special forces from the Air Force that call in Air Force raids. I was in the Air Force once, that's how I'm so smert!
@maliktary not going to lie that was a really bad idea on their part....but dont do that...dont place EVERY American under the "Dum Ass" title...by the way its spelled Dumb not Dum........its ok UK
pretty pathetic that our own planes engaged us, they should have looked at it better visually rather than relying on other ground positions to confirm who it was.
Man, imagine how shitty you would feel later to be one of those pilots. Who's probably all jazzed up on the kill at the time.. "Yeahhhhh death from above!!!"
Then find out you were shooting the wrong folks. That's would be awful.
It is not air force fault. It is because of the stupid power line. Which we got no communication. But it doesn't matter those jets are old used in Gulf war too.
There is a reason only a small percentage of air force pilots get to even step foot in one of those planes.
I know it's hard to comprehend these sorts of things from your parents basement playing call of duty, but I promise your ride in the back of an F-18 would yield rivers of puke.
Quit talking like you're in the military, it's extremely obvious you are not. You would absolutely have respect for all of your eyes in the sky.
If you had the most basic understanding of the battlefield you would understand how important air superiority is. Why do you think we destroyed all of Saddam's aircraft first thing during Shock and Awe?
You've obviously never seen what an AC-130 gunship is capable of...
I'm not full of shit, I just made a complete idiot out of you. I also never claimed to be a Raptor Pilot. At any point. I was pointing out the flaws in your argument.
Your silly accusations on my position in life are neither creative nor correct. I'm going to school to be a communications engineer for L. M. before I join the Naval Academy.
What are you going to tell me battlefield communication is useless too?
Never mind the fact that I didn't say one thing about being under fire...
Never mind the fact I have lots of friends who actually are in the service (hence why I want to join myself once I get my GPA up, yes they do have standards) 2 of them Army Rangers who are entirely offended by your ridiculous comments about what works and what doesn't in battle. History has proven Air superiority can turn the tide of battle since WWI.
And that's a fine point, we can agree on that to an extent. However, the planes don't "abandon" you. They are too fast to stick around.
You said airmen were useless, and called them pussies. That was the point I argued. You claimed they were so useless... (even though they have been used in nearly every single major battle since WW2) that they were getting replaced by robots and that could never happen to the infantry. I'm sure any infantryman in the U.S. has seen our robots.
Again, please quit pretending you hold "rank" in order to win your absurd arguments. It is offensive to those who really are in the service, and really have risked their lives so you can be a fucktard.
That's a logical fallacy in itself. If you're a scientist, and somehow claim gravity makes things float, your status as a scientist doesn't make the statement true. That would elucidate the fact the guy isn't really a scientist, like this makes it obvious you're not a soldier.
You've made nothing but claims about my 40 year old virginity after you claimed fighter pilots are pussies, and that you've done two tours (didn't specify which war, or what your rank is) but you've never seen robotic infantry. Also claimed that fighter pilots were so incompetent that they were all being replaced by robots for being so useless.
You're right, you won this one before it started, what was I thinking?
As a conscript... But not a combatant though. I say ure a total idiot. Why the hell would you call your airforce pussies? Do you know what it takes to be a pilot? The tough tests they need to go through and selection to earn their status to be a fighter pilot?
Why the hell would they call pilots pussies when its the pilots who gives them air support and airstrikes? You dont make any sense except the fact u potray urself as a total idiot.
@guillermob3 hey fuck you. it wasn't those pilots' faults. no one had any idea those marines were there, remember? you cannot blame those pilots. they were cleared hot. if you wanna blame someone, blame the fucking hajji motherfuckers in that city.
They say some is real and some is acted...BS its all fake
xMasSaCreDx 3 days ago
what the fuck, what type of pilots are those? they could not see a BIG ASS BLOCK OF ALUMINUM? and seriously how the fuck they can not see at least a couple of soldiers on the ground?
04GUITARPLAYER04 6 days ago
@04GUITARPLAYER04 They did see them, they just mistook them for the wrong side. Sad mistake, no doubt, but that's just part of the "fog of war" they were talking about. It's the ground man's job to direct the pilot, all the pilot would see would be a vague truck-like shape and some little dots (the soldiers), there's no way they'd be able to tell from thousands of feet away "oh yeah, those are ours", they'd be nothing but a little speck on the ground to the pilot.
ZarathustrasCrown 2 days ago
@ZarathustrasCrown i know sad but stupid as fuck. cause i mean you think the taliban use the amtrack? and its not easy to miss that thing
04GUITARPLAYER04 2 days ago
@04GUITARPLAYER04 I have my doubts that pilots flying a jet at close to 400 miles an hour at an extreme minimum of one thousand feet away, most likely tens of thousands of feet would be able to tell. find a football field and then park a car three full fields away...would YOU be able to tell the make and model from there? Now, do the same thing while zooming past faster than the speed of sound. That's WHY they need ground direction, to a pilot it's just dots on the ground.
ZarathustrasCrown 2 days ago
@topperheartramada how the fuck does his tone offend you? it is in no way shape or form showing disrespect to these Marines.
TheBF3King 6 days ago
I love how they go to commercial break every three minutes and then spend the next two minutes repeating what happend before the break. Just how many breaks are there and why do they think the audience is so mentally challenged that it can't follow the story? It is outright ridiculous. Plus I don't like the tone of the narrator's voice. It is just disrespectful.
topperheartramada 1 week ago
A HORRIBLY planned mission. HORRIBLE.
msk7046 1 week ago
People fight even in the comments of this kind of videos LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cortarelcuello 2 weeks ago
what the fuck???!!! dont the pilots know what friendly mechanized units look like? american troops are so stupid
himoms1001 2 weeks ago
@himoms1001
what an idiot you are... at that elevation all you see is a dark blob, you cant tell an APC from a tank or a pick up, not that a moron like you would ever know anything about battle.
IDFArmor 2 weeks ago
@IDFArmor the fucking iraqi's are too poor to have any armoured vehicles. how stupid can anyone be to even believe iraqi's have a convoy. they blend in with the population and its their only escape why would they even try to show their presence with a mother fucking convoy. americans hardly think! no wonder they have the lowest iq out of all developed countries
himoms1001 2 weeks ago
@himoms1001
wow, you blame other people of ignorance while you are talking like a moron...
iraq had one of the biggest armies in the world, thousands of soviet made tanks and APCs that were used throughout the war especially at its earliest stages.
there have been many occasions where they decided to engage using traditional military means.
blame americans on being dumb all you like, you're the one judging others without ever leaving your home or experiencing a damn thing.
IDFArmor 2 weeks ago
@IDFArmor guess what...they knew they weren't facing the army. it was clear the enemy was causally dressed and was no former fighting force. they were facing poor islamic extremest that believe everyone who isn't muslim should die. now mind you these guys are no army at all they are a racial organization. intelligence on the mission had to have been gathered before the men even deployed the operation, if they knew the enemy was armed and withing the city. do the army live in the city?
himoms1001 2 weeks ago
@himoms1001
iraqi insurgents used alot of weaponry abandoned by the iraqi army, i'd like to know how YOU of all people know exactly where every iraqi armored vehicle was at the time...
i'll tell you this much: during my service in the gaza strip we encountered enemy light armor, and NO ONE expected that, so thats just more evidence to show you that what happened here was an honest mistake.
and yes, the iraqi army can movie into a city if it wants...
IDFArmor 2 weeks ago
@IDFArmor i will say again. they knew they were not facing an army. and i dont know where the every iraqi armoured vehicle is and i never claimed to have known. not only that if you were in their positions (since you claim you've done service) would you have located friendly before you send an airstrike? if not than you should have been with these marines because your just as dumb if you wouldnt even bother. everybody knows as a good operator do avoid danger close
himoms1001 1 week ago
Man, this is why the Airforce is called the "chairforce" by other branches sometimes.
VMUS83TX 3 weeks ago
Seriously, You cant even recognize american armor...
SevchenkoSpetsnahz 1 month ago 2
Who is so fucking stupid not to notice American vehicles, use common sense
Erebus2two 1 month ago 2
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x18superbike 1 month ago
Am sure tis airmen got sacked for being blind or just plain stupid for not knowing the u.s. armored veh..
du2lx 1 month ago
dont they have any comms....? this is frustrating
crossx4real 2 months ago
Wow what a horrible lack of coordination and communication. I hope someone got fired that day.
ShowMEYourWolfiness 2 months ago
how the fuck cant the A-10 bombers tell that its their own tanks? Blindarses
MrJamezBear 2 months ago 2
yet another american blue on blue.
ber200815 3 months ago
1 more think how come the a1 p dont see its amercan guys they are shooting
sertox12345 4 months ago
at a bout thirty seconds in the marine admits the a10 warthogs are using DU rounds wtf that's so against the Geneva convention
imperialomen 4 months ago
@imperialomen No, it is not against the Geneva Convention, or the Hague convention, or anything else. The only things specifically banned are chemical weapons (such as mustard gas or anything thing else that causes asphyxiation to kill). Hollow point bullets are banned under the Hague Convention of 1899. White Phosphorous, Napalm, and Cluster Bombs are banned against the use of civilians under the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1983. Depleted Uranium is not banned under anything.
gp556by45 3 months ago
@gp556by45 you are correct and i was was too brief in making my comment. At the time the military was not officially admitting to using DU Ammo even though it is not illegal to do so. There is a strong world wide movement to ban this type of ammo in order to minimize the exposure of people to radiation and admitting to using this Ammo in war is controversial. i bow before your greater knowledge in hindsight i was "spinning " the message that I intended to make, that was a mistake.
imperialomen 3 months ago
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gp556by45 3 months ago
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@imperialomen On that fact, DU ammunition should be taken out of inventory, and I believe there IS sufficient evidence of the adverse health affects on the people that are exposed to it in any capacity. The reason that it is continued to be used is that it is the hardest known material we can make armor piercing rounds out of, short of Tungsten, so the replacement process has been agonizingly slow.
gp556by45 3 months ago
@imperialomen
holy shit, i'd never thought i'd ever see an intelligent and respectful comment on youtube...
IDFArmor 2 weeks ago
Friendly Fire, the worst nightmare in combat
snakes3425 5 months ago 14
@snakes3425 you got that right
x18superbike 1 month ago
Man I feel sorry for the Marines that was attacked by there own people
TheTrinidad23 5 months ago
wow, what a completely FUBAR mission from start to finish. Maybe we should just hire the GERMANS to fight for us. At least they wouldn't shoot at each other.
130starfish 6 months ago
@130starfish hail hitler!
mindawareness 5 months ago
wait, aren't they and the vehicles suppose to be issues those flashing light strobes so that the airmen can know if they're friendlies?
MrCalintx 6 months ago 2
@MrCalintx
its a day mission, i doubt the pilots used thermal imaging, but what does make sense is some smoke grenades, i dont know what color americans use for casualties, but lob a few of those around and it could help...
maybe they didnt have any, and maybe it all just happened too fast.
IDFArmor 2 weeks ago
The A-10s are the same plane that took out my uncle's four friends during the Battle of Khafji during the first Gulf War. A USAF A-10 struck Maverick missiles on US Marine light armoured vehicles and blew it up competely. My uncle was mad about it and had to be treated in a near a Khafji hospital.
publicmario17 6 months ago 2
im a brit and the US air force blow up some of are tanks as well i think the yanks have killed more brits than the iraqis have ....fucking joke ...
leemeires 8 months ago
@leemeires Actually Britain lost around 47 military personnel in the Gulf War. 39 to enemy fire and nine to friendly fire. Nine of them were killed in one incident when two USAF A-10 warplanes attacked two British Warrior armoured vehicles.
Friendly fire has been the lowest in Iraq and Afghanistan war. In fact, more British lives has been saved by the USAF than it has been killed. It's just that the British media blew it out of porportion.
publicmario17 6 months ago
@publicmario17 the british media blow everything out of porportion..
devilrobbie25 4 months ago
do you people think you fight against monkeys...lol...us gonna lose this was as aaaall wars--
MrUFOwatcher1 8 months ago
HOW CAN YOU NOT TELL A BIG GREEN GIANT ALV ? AND SHOULD IF YOUR DAMN 30 MMM GUN CANT TAKE IT OUT AND IT MUST BE US ARMORED VEHICLE YOU BECAUSE INSURGENTS DON'T OWN ANY ARMORED VEHICLE THAT CAN TAKE 200 30MM ROUNDS.. OOH COME ON. I BET THOSE CHAIR FORCE GUYS ARE TRIGGER HAPPY... I BET YOU THEIR MOTTO IS . ( IF THEY DON'T FLY, THEY HAVE TO DIE )
Vietboy1st 11 months ago
@Vietboy1st It wasn't those pilots fail, dude. and our motto isn't what you claimed it to be. don't be ignorant - those pilots were doing what they were told to do. if that Marine FAC had his shit straight and the comms weren't all fucked up, that would not have happened, so don't go putting the blame on the air force. My best friend was an AMTRAC driver in Nazaria that day and he blames us too. It's fucked up but it was the Marines' fault for not checking where his people were.
SuperMike82 9 months ago in playlist Shootout! Iraq's Ambush Alley (1/5)
I am in the Marine and i have to say that the air force did it job it the infantry dude that gave wrong information. i have been in street combat and there no time for bullshit so if you think it a enemy you got to take him out.
Marineboy1935 11 months ago
I thought the Air Force only accepted smart kids
Rookie4563 1 year ago 2
I was there. Just as the video sad, the FAC did NOT know that Charlie was that far north. As far as he knew, no one was north of Bravo who was stuck in the bog. Charlie made the decision to go to the north bridge over the canal and had no comm to tell anyone(C7, comm truck was with bravo and in the bog, no comm). So the FAC cleared the A-10's based on the knowledge that no US forces were on the Northern bridge....It's called war....
TheAmatorn 1 year ago
@TheAmatorn It was a stupid communication, I thought america had the better communication and GPS equipment. What a waste of time being there and gets killed by your own people
whatsbetterinlife 10 months ago
I was there. Just as the video sad, the FAC did NOT know that Charlie was that far north. As far as he knew, no one was north of Bravo who was stuck in the bog. Charlie made the decision to go to the north bridge over the canal and had no comm to tell anyone(C7, comm truck was with bravo and in the bog, no comm). So the FAC cleared the A-10's based on the knowledge that no US forces were on the Northern bridge....It's called war....
TheAmatorn 1 year ago
wow again friendly fire just like in ww2 it seems to me us marines have really bad intelleigience when the fog of war is there NVR CALL Air support always sent ARMOURED CARS like the Spanish ArmY armoured scout cars
Badboy21thekiller 1 year ago
shit. I want to be a combat controller... I hope I can do a better job that those dumb-asses. lol.
daflyingkiwifilms 1 year ago 2
Should've made the 30mm explosions more realistic.
mtrtrm 1 year ago
who the fucking in charges this operation....
laoxxxiler 1 year ago 9
The Airforce is fucking retarded. Kings of friendly fire. Here's a fucking idea. When you see a goddamn AMTRAC painted in Marine Camouflage with guys in desert helmets and woodland MOPPs engaging RPG team in the alleyways, they are probably friendly.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
@yesiamawizardjonny uh, u do realize its kinda hard to tell from the cockpit of a plane right? they are pretty high up in the air and if they do get close, they are going to fast to focus on a single person. im not trying to excuse their mistake. im simply pointing out that ur a fucking dumbass. lol
calebinoutlook 1 year ago
@calebinoutlook Also, Friendly vehicles use pink air-tarps on the hoods of the victor. This is specifically for identification for aircraft above. These guys need to watch what they fucking engage. You're the dumbass.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
@yesiamawizardjonny dude. its war. mistakes always happen. tell u what. since u think ur so much better than them. why don't u go join the Air Force. that way the mistkae will never happen again huh?
calebinoutlook 1 year ago
@calebinoutlook If I had perfect vision I could, but I still wouldn't. Bombing is boring to me, I like to be on the ground with an M16
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
@yesiamawizardjonny u wouldn't? oh. i see how that makes sense. ur willing to let others die just cause i don't wanna do something boring. just so u can fire ur M16. lol. u have no right insulting others if thats how u look at things.
calebinoutlook 1 year ago
@calebinoutlook I didn't say I was willing to let others die you fucking idiot. I said I wouldn't want to be in the airforce. It's the same concept as people choosing their branch of service. The Airforce doesn't interest me. So here's a suggestion: Take the cocks out of your ears and mouth and fucking listen for once you gimp.
yesiamawizardjonny 1 year ago
@yesiamawizardjonny "take the cocks out of your ears" seriously? lamest insult of all time. haha. ur retarded. i hope u do join the Marines (or whatever u wanna join) and make a huge mistake and get famous for it. that way u can't talk shit about stuff u don't know shit about.
calebinoutlook 1 year ago
fucking chairforce !!!!!!
anteracmacash 1 year ago
Stupid USAF kill more marines than Iraqis. A-10 AF pilot, protected with titanium cockpit, could afford to fly low and slow for visual confirmation. Who is the stupid ground commander who ordered all tanks to refuel and leave combat zone, leaving ground troops naked in the midst of battle? Why didn't any top commander send an advance scout team to evaluate the soft muddy path prior to making that the attack path for armor vehicles? Amateur and stupid Commander should be courtmartial.
levine96629 1 year ago
lol friendly fire ...i didnt expectt it from da most advanced army in the world ....and
Um okay so an Air force attack the most devistating type of attack kills atleast 1 ?? wtf either tell us real number or...i mean U,S army hates showing casualty numbers ..and its friendly so actually either their airforce sux to hit ....and wait wait iwat ...In the first place the pilot saw some tanks and vehicles ...Iraqis are gangs and clans how the hell did he think they aint friendly dumb fuck
jadindahouse 1 year ago
lol friendly fire ...i didnt expectt it from da most advanced army in the world ....
jadindahouse 1 year ago
I can't believe they haven't mention the tanks stuck in the mudd yet. The book is 100 times better
taefolks32 1 year ago
@taefolks32 they mentioned that in part 1
HKgunner 1 year ago
Americas Air force needs to get their shit straight. Seriously. Way to many Soldiers die from their own Air force.
XxHaHaXx3 1 year ago
wheres the uav:s
kajenius 1 year ago
dying by your own what fucking shit is this
lagmoredude1 1 year ago
wow air force. nobody likes you. dickweeds.
britLAND97 1 year ago
@britLAND97 to be fair they were cleared from the ground
3tangle3 1 year ago
It anit the Airforce Force fault, it is basically the Guy who called it in the Air Stike, he gave the polits the wrong cordinate
pmiplayer 1 year ago
@pmiplayer who is an airforce air traffic controller attached to the unit marine.
HKgunner 1 year ago
@HKgunner mabye they just suck at what they do.
pmiplayer 1 year ago
Alright you guys insulting the air forces pilots. Do you think that at that speed and altitude that you can differentiate targets. Trust me...look out of an airborne airliner and imagine doing at twice as fast and low to ground while flying, and fighting..
Uniblab123 1 year ago
Great..............These guys call in the air-force and get wiped out.....
RebelSonBand 1 year ago
Damn, this mission was a major disaster. Everything that could go wrong went wrong. I know how it is to have bad comm too. My truck's radio wasn't working to well and I got lost from my convoy but we stopped by some amtracks behind us and they went back to get us cought back up with them. Needless to say the convoy commander wasn't too happy, but we explained the situation and got our comm fixed.
errbarkkill 1 year ago
i never see iraqis using amtracks...
JayJay1990fromwiehl 1 year ago
You know you give a Air force Pilot a multimillion dollar plane and a 5 year old idea of what the enemy looks like,,, Now give all the Air Force pilots a picture of American military verticals! and some crayons to color them in. THIS IS JUSY STUPID.
James1toknow 1 year ago
let me get this straight...It all started becuase an ARMY man made the wrong turn? jesus christ!!!
XiseAngel 1 year ago
the killed each other, well fuck them
admoonhermiz 1 year ago
I would try and shoot down that damned airforce failure!
Temall 1 year ago
A-10's have a well deserved bad reputation for shooting their own forces. They also have a well deserved positive reputation for massacring the enemy. Honestly though, amtracks have a very distinctive shape for an armored vehicle; there should have been no way for those pilots to mistake those vehicles for enemies.
Snipe4261 1 year ago
thast is verry scary
OPozzoli 1 year ago
lets make love not war..
6cbstn9 1 year ago
is that what you call friendly fire they almost kill the platoon squad..no wonder its always happen this action...tsk tsk tsk..bad call....i salute the dead marine....
WARBOB1975 1 year ago
EXSELENTE air force 5*****
mungos31ami 1 year ago
That soundz scary as fuck to hear A 10z and their gunz going "Whooooooooop" at u. give me chillz.
LtActionCam 1 year ago
Damn
ThePivotUnion 1 year ago
Stupid ASS USMC morons. Why did the marines clear the A10s hot? Marines are fubarred beyond belief!
gdurant 1 year ago
@gdurant if you paid attention they said "forward controllers" which in other words are combat controllers, which therefore are a group of special forces from the Air Force that call in Air Force raids. I was in the Air Force once, that's how I'm so smert!
hawkins1424 1 year ago
@hawkins1424 your smert aye?
iliket0bike 1 year ago
@iliket0bike aye, little joke.
hawkins1424 1 year ago
@hawkins1424 lol yea i know XD
iliket0bike 1 year ago
@hawkins1424 Check your facts! It was a USMC FAC that killed the marines and NOT USAF
gdurant 1 year ago
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67DieHardPatriot454 1 year ago
Friendly fire sucks. :(
BothtaweeKelly 1 year ago
WTF...how can they not tell...camouflage from durags?
shallbeknown 1 year ago 2
this is fucked up!!
rawdenashitey 1 year ago
dum ass americans
maliktary 1 year ago
@maliktary not going to lie that was a really bad idea on their part....but dont do that...dont place EVERY American under the "Dum Ass" title...by the way its spelled Dumb not Dum........its ok UK
GutMuse 1 year ago
crazy shit
reaper7329 1 year ago
pretty pathetic that our own planes engaged us, they should have looked at it better visually rather than relying on other ground positions to confirm who it was.
ChopperCity47 1 year ago
fkin military intelligence aye
jonobrad100 2 years ago 30
sad to say that the one who do most damage to the marine are from the A-10s. the Iraqi was just a joke..
wyunaboy 2 years ago 5
@96nicklena
Don't worry about it, his words speak volumes about his character and intelligence. I don't think anyone is buying his shit anyhow.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
Man, imagine how shitty you would feel later to be one of those pilots. Who's probably all jazzed up on the kill at the time.. "Yeahhhhh death from above!!!"
Then find out you were shooting the wrong folks. That's would be awful.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
I think the most terrible thing that could happen in a war is the fact of the friendly fire!
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guillermob3 2 years ago
why they gotta repeat everything thats happening every 5 minutes very annoying
Caboose3012 2 years ago
commercials
4jai2brons0n 2 years ago
you said about your family getting killed in an american airstrike so s t f u you hypocryte
marauder622 2 years ago
wet0cool your fucked up
MrJoe48 2 years ago 2
STUPID ASS!!! AIR FORCE!!!
guillermob3 2 years ago 30
It is not air force fault. It is because of the stupid power line. Which we got no communication. But it doesn't matter those jets are old used in Gulf war too.
Vietboy1st 2 years ago 2
who cares if there old, there the best air to ground support in quick missoins beides the ac130, the airforce has to offer.
chbearsrule 2 years ago
its not airforces fault, pay attention idiot!
chbearsrule 2 years ago 2
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guillermob3 2 years ago
wow, man your fuckin retarted! it takws more stanima and strength to fly a jet! wow all infetry units do is shoot guns!
chbearsrule 2 years ago
@guillermob3
There is a reason only a small percentage of air force pilots get to even step foot in one of those planes.
I know it's hard to comprehend these sorts of things from your parents basement playing call of duty, but I promise your ride in the back of an F-18 would yield rivers of puke.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
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guillermob3 2 years ago
@guillermob3
Quit talking like you're in the military, it's extremely obvious you are not. You would absolutely have respect for all of your eyes in the sky.
If you had the most basic understanding of the battlefield you would understand how important air superiority is. Why do you think we destroyed all of Saddam's aircraft first thing during Shock and Awe?
You've obviously never seen what an AC-130 gunship is capable of...
captainmutiny 2 years ago
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guillermob3 2 years ago
@guillermob3
That's very intelligent.
Like I said, and a point you avoided, you would not be able to handle the cockpit of a fighter plane.
I don't have to know you to see you have absolutely no service record.
Any infantry soldier understands elementary battle strategy, and how important air superiority is. Air superiority turns the tides of war.
You're not just offending airmen, you're offending anyone else who ever picked up a rifle for service of their country.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
@guillermob3
If the Airforce is being replaced by the robots, lmao, why are they spending so much money making sure we rule the skies for the next half century?
The UAV is not there to establish air superiority, it has a more advanced purpose than aerial combat.
You've done two tours and you've never heard of a Talon, or a Gladiator? Robotic Infantry.. and not the first model in history. See WW2 Teletank.
Please, quit talking out of your dumb ass. Robots don't replace a human brain.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
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guillermob3 2 years ago
@guillermob3
I'm not full of shit, I just made a complete idiot out of you. I also never claimed to be a Raptor Pilot. At any point. I was pointing out the flaws in your argument.
Your silly accusations on my position in life are neither creative nor correct. I'm going to school to be a communications engineer for L. M. before I join the Naval Academy.
What are you going to tell me battlefield communication is useless too?
You're extremely gifted at embarrassing yourself.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
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guillermob3 2 years ago
@guillermob3
Whatever you say cowboy...
Never mind the fact that I didn't say one thing about being under fire...
Never mind the fact I have lots of friends who actually are in the service (hence why I want to join myself once I get my GPA up, yes they do have standards) 2 of them Army Rangers who are entirely offended by your ridiculous comments about what works and what doesn't in battle. History has proven Air superiority can turn the tide of battle since WWI.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
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guillermob3 2 years ago
@guillermob3
And that's a fine point, we can agree on that to an extent. However, the planes don't "abandon" you. They are too fast to stick around.
You said airmen were useless, and called them pussies. That was the point I argued. You claimed they were so useless... (even though they have been used in nearly every single major battle since WW2) that they were getting replaced by robots and that could never happen to the infantry. I'm sure any infantryman in the U.S. has seen our robots.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
@captainmutiny we have robots aswell with machine guns mortars m16s m4s
wowhobbster666 1 year ago
@wowhobbster666
Yeah, that guy was obviously an idiot. There is a time a place for drones, and if we need them for something, we'll build them for the job.
captainmutiny 1 year ago
@guillermob3
Again, please quit pretending you hold "rank" in order to win your absurd arguments. It is offensive to those who really are in the service, and really have risked their lives so you can be a fucktard.
That's a logical fallacy in itself. If you're a scientist, and somehow claim gravity makes things float, your status as a scientist doesn't make the statement true. That would elucidate the fact the guy isn't really a scientist, like this makes it obvious you're not a soldier.
captainmutiny 2 years ago
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guillermob3 2 years ago
@guillermob3
You've made nothing but claims about my 40 year old virginity after you claimed fighter pilots are pussies, and that you've done two tours (didn't specify which war, or what your rank is) but you've never seen robotic infantry. Also claimed that fighter pilots were so incompetent that they were all being replaced by robots for being so useless.
You're right, you won this one before it started, what was I thinking?
captainmutiny 2 years ago
As a conscript... But not a combatant though. I say ure a total idiot. Why the hell would you call your airforce pussies? Do you know what it takes to be a pilot? The tough tests they need to go through and selection to earn their status to be a fighter pilot?
Why the hell would they call pilots pussies when its the pilots who gives them air support and airstrikes? You dont make any sense except the fact u potray urself as a total idiot.
frostymourne 2 years ago
@guillermob3 the a-10 is a marine air craft..
Young16654 1 year ago
@Young16654 but it said air force kinda weird i think..
Young16654 1 year ago
@guillermob3 Yeah. So much for the Air Force being the smartest branch of the military. :/
TheBigBangBoys 1 year ago 2
@guillermob3 hey fuck you. it wasn't those pilots' faults. no one had any idea those marines were there, remember? you cannot blame those pilots. they were cleared hot. if you wanna blame someone, blame the fucking hajji motherfuckers in that city.
SuperMike82 1 year ago
@guillermob3 dont blame the air force blame the marines who told them to fire
sk8aboy21 10 months ago