i guess the point of deesser is to create that warmth sound? I wasn't around during those old ages but this sounds like its a process of creating those warm tone.
Hey Daniel...why you even used DeEsser before EQ. I don't think you needed it. Your guitar recording is great and it was lacking in presence maybe but you could make that up with just EQ. Am I right ?
I mean I know there are some situations where guitar is too harsh but near to be great and I guess that is when this trick is really helpful.
Imagine that you have a guitar track, and it is harsh in some parts of the track. If you cut with an EQ you're cutting either in the harsh parts and the parts that don't sound harsh. You're fixing the problem in some parts and in other ones you're causing another problem.
That's the job of a de-esser, you establish a threshold so in those harsh parts the troubled frequencies will be compressed and the rest of the track will preserve those beautiful highs.
Hello Daniel, Thanks for answering my questions ... Do you have any topics on bass guitar and pre-mastering? you have some video lessons so I can buy and learn more about mixing? Very good for your topics'm showing my friends here in Brazil ... Thank you, God bless you!
Thanks. There are more tutorial videos on this channel. There are also several good books from sound.org and the Waves Gold Certification Program which is a course with videos, sessions, a book and more.
Daniel I have difficulty in mixing the guitar it causes ear fatigue, what can I do to solve this problem? the musicians that I record do not have good equipment plug'in which indicates to me you better record the guitar? Congratulations, here in Brazil has by explaining that people just like you. Thank you.
Try monitoring with good monitors (not headphones), in levels that aren't too loud. Take breaks to give your ears a rest. You can record a real guitar or use an amp modeler plugin such as GTR. Pushing frequencies around 2-5K can make things sound harsh sometimes, although these are sometimes needed to cut through a mix. Find the balance...
@Renato27ify usually my problem with ear fatigue comes from a low dynamic range (very little volume change), a.k.a. a very compressed sound. Try not compressing everything at all except it you absolutely have to.
after years of experimenting i found that with properly broken in speakers you get few harshness issues even with rectos or 5150 amps. theres a procedure to breaking in speakers its not just blast them.
Well, there are many things that can make particular tracks sound wider - keep in mind width is 'relative' so pan other tracks less hard and the guitars hard, and when they come in they will feel wider.
There are also some good plug-ins that use psychoacoustics to make tracks sound wider, like the waves S1.
What folks for get is that in using these plugs we must keep in mind that pro tools itself has its own sound, so that would inspire what choice of plugins to use and how many.
I myself use nuendo and it sounds very diff from pro tools even when using the same hardware. ( LE hardware )
Even the HD systems sound diff from High end Nuendo Compatable grear
I also agree with bluesteelpump. People often overlook other DAWS because of this. The main reason most studios use Pro-Tools is because it is a almost like a standard. But there is NO difference in quality between DAW's.
Some would argue that 32 bit float is better than protools 24 bit system... I think it doesnt really matter at that point... you don't really hear the difference... nothing dither wont solve anyways...
1) Summing algorithms are often different (not in quality but in value)
2) with 32bit floating point there are virtually no clippings (much headroom to go over 0dBFS). Obviously you have to go below 0dB soon or later, in mix render or in mastering. But if something get out of control (plugins, expecially phasers) you have no hard clippings.
But if we speak about "sound": Yes. Exactly the same because are NUMBERS what we're working on. 1+1=2 everywhere.
So right man I learned how to mix on a System 5 mC from watching the Videos online
I had to asist the man at Guitar Center on how to make the nuendo system see the system 5 mc. He said it needed some update I said no way man Nuendo 3.1 and beyond already supports it
What does this actually do? Does it create a very complex eq? Or does it do something entirely different?
JustSomeRandomNewb 2 days ago
Love it! thank you
cliff250 2 weeks ago
thanks this was the last piece of the puzzle for my guitar distortion sound \m/
jp0005jp 1 month ago
Great video.. Thanks
mixermantim 2 months ago
Dude. You say 'cool' like Derek Zoolander!
IntoAWorldAtWar 4 months ago
Great!....Thank you!...
grufiog 10 months ago
Daniel is great meat and potatoes. with great tips..ty
yappertrap 1 year ago
i guess the point of deesser is to create that warmth sound? I wasn't around during those old ages but this sounds like its a process of creating those warm tone.
blo0magic 1 year ago
As usual fantastic stuff man, thank you
Mfiguk 1 year ago
how can i remove the picking noise?its too loud its so audible its annoying...
Jed9133 1 year ago
Hey Daniel...why you even used DeEsser before EQ. I don't think you needed it. Your guitar recording is great and it was lacking in presence maybe but you could make that up with just EQ. Am I right ?
I mean I know there are some situations where guitar is too harsh but near to be great and I guess that is when this trick is really helpful.
Vanjal 1 year ago
@Vanjal
Imagine that you have a guitar track, and it is harsh in some parts of the track. If you cut with an EQ you're cutting either in the harsh parts and the parts that don't sound harsh. You're fixing the problem in some parts and in other ones you're causing another problem.
That's the job of a de-esser, you establish a threshold so in those harsh parts the troubled frequencies will be compressed and the rest of the track will preserve those beautiful highs.
Lgw1984 1 year ago
hey man, thanks for all the cool tips!
LanieWolmer 1 year ago
Hello Daniel, Thanks for answering my questions ... Do you have any topics on bass guitar and pre-mastering? you have some video lessons so I can buy and learn more about mixing? Very good for your topics'm showing my friends here in Brazil ... Thank you, God bless you!
Renato27ify 1 year ago
@Renato27ify
Thanks. There are more tutorial videos on this channel. There are also several good books from sound.org and the Waves Gold Certification Program which is a course with videos, sessions, a book and more.
danielwaves 1 year ago
Daniel I have difficulty in mixing the guitar it causes ear fatigue, what can I do to solve this problem? the musicians that I record do not have good equipment plug'in which indicates to me you better record the guitar? Congratulations, here in Brazil has by explaining that people just like you. Thank you.
Renato27ify 1 year ago
@Renato27ify
Try monitoring with good monitors (not headphones), in levels that aren't too loud. Take breaks to give your ears a rest. You can record a real guitar or use an amp modeler plugin such as GTR. Pushing frequencies around 2-5K can make things sound harsh sometimes, although these are sometimes needed to cut through a mix. Find the balance...
danielwaves 1 year ago 2
@Renato27ify usually my problem with ear fatigue comes from a low dynamic range (very little volume change), a.k.a. a very compressed sound. Try not compressing everything at all except it you absolutely have to.
JohnTheRipper2 5 months ago
Fo shizzle homie. You are right! It sounds awesome - Imunna guce it a try. Cool air drumming at the end too!
bbmarcon 1 year ago
an easier way to do this is to simply roll off at 20k and then compensate with a bbe plugin.
anewdayproductions 1 year ago
actually hes using the de esser to avoid hushiness ,
kharlos84 1 year ago
I didnt know ben stiller worked for waves
EnimusLive 1 year ago
Thanks for the info, I rarely find anything that is useful =)
Tommy666666777777 1 year ago
just wanted to say that i really appreciate you taking the time to teach us this stuff. good man
disciple21781 1 year ago
omg its ben stiller
silverxarrows 1 year ago 32
@silverxarrows that's funny!
123b1s1m1 1 year ago
@silverxarrows Thats the first thing i thought!
GrandFatMan1 11 months ago
That is a real cool idea!!!
I will test that on a Black Metal Guitar!
Hyperboreer 2 years ago
Good tips but that guitar sound sounded like you used a crate combo amp lol
eRealist 2 years ago
Cool tip! Free of any Bullshit too!
Thank you
Plato12345 2 years ago 16
yeah hes using LE on a non-HD system. same thing as some kid with an M-box at home. He just has a great plug in library
briauc 2 years ago
ye shoulda got the guitar player to have his amp setup right ...then again not everyones an eddie van halen!!!
neildonoghue 2 years ago
what version of protools were you using here in this video??
SilentFall08 3 years ago
he was probably using pro tools hd with the tdm stuff
giovannim 3 years ago
thanx
SilentFall08 3 years ago
hey i was wrong, after a closer look i know its just pro tools LE not HD. because those waves plugins were not TDM they are RTAS
giovannim 3 years ago
you can still use RTAS with an HD rig...it is LE though because there is no input mode beside the record mode
bretyk35 3 years ago
i thought i could see RTAS in the top corner of the plugs..? kinda blurry though, could be wrong.
pretty sre this is version 7.3...
It's a little unstable but so far PT 8 is rockin my world!
lanerant 2 years ago
I did the 8.02 upgrade, and it took out a lot of the bugs I found early on. Simple quick fix!
jrod9900 2 years ago
if I click on input device it says: no input, i have a build in microphone but it doesnt find it, can anyone help me plz?
derkman127 3 years ago
what is the plugin before he use API?
mango532 3 years ago
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Plato12345 2 years ago
cool,great tip.
did you use a narrow q or wide q when boosting?
cheers.
madmuso5 3 years ago
Usually a wide Q for boosting, narrower when attenuating.
danielwaves 3 years ago 3
after years of experimenting i found that with properly broken in speakers you get few harshness issues even with rectos or 5150 amps. theres a procedure to breaking in speakers its not just blast them.
Mahavishnu80 3 years ago
Or just use a dynamic eq, it would've given you a lot more flexibility.
27twentyseven27 3 years ago
hey man nice tip!
can you tell me how to get a wider guitar sound ?
i doubling the guitar and putting a slight delay on one of them.. but its still not that wide
mozam007 3 years ago
Well, there are many things that can make particular tracks sound wider - keep in mind width is 'relative' so pan other tracks less hard and the guitars hard, and when they come in they will feel wider.
There are also some good plug-ins that use psychoacoustics to make tracks sound wider, like the waves S1.
danielwaves 3 years ago
@danielwaves "Width is Relative". 3 short but extremely important words. Thanks for that.
MissingAmongPeople 1 year ago
No no. Protools does not have it's own sound.
It has been proven many times now. The argument was put to rest some years ago now and has been tested with reverse phase tests etc.
All the major DAWS (PT, Nuendo, Cubase, Logic etc) sound EXACTLY the same.
If you are letting which DAW you use influence mixing decisions then your decisions are not based on the raw material.
Please do your research before coming back at me on this. Like I said it's a dead debate.
GJOrange 3 years ago
thank you! i agree 100%
dkrumrie123 3 years ago
What folks for get is that in using these plugs we must keep in mind that pro tools itself has its own sound, so that would inspire what choice of plugins to use and how many.
I myself use nuendo and it sounds very diff from pro tools even when using the same hardware. ( LE hardware )
Even the HD systems sound diff from High end Nuendo Compatable grear
zellymusic 3 years ago
your 110% WRONG........ dumb ass
No no. Protools does not have it's own sound.
It has been proven many times now. The argument was put to rest some years ago now and has been tested with reverse phase tests etc.
All the major DAWS (PT, Nuendo, Cubase, Logic etc) sound EXACTLY the same.
If you are letting which DAW you use influence mixing decisions then your decisions are not based on the raw material.
Please do your research before coming back at me on this. Like I said it's a dead debate.
bluesteelpump 2 years ago 3
I also agree with bluesteelpump. People often overlook other DAWS because of this. The main reason most studios use Pro-Tools is because it is a almost like a standard. But there is NO difference in quality between DAW's.
misterviet 2 years ago
I use reaper lulz its free
jian2069 2 years ago
reapers good too.
misterviet 2 years ago
Some would argue that 32 bit float is better than protools 24 bit system... I think it doesnt really matter at that point... you don't really hear the difference... nothing dither wont solve anyways...
marilyne222pandah 2 years ago 2
@marilyne222pandah 32 bit floating point doesn't clip
MissingAmongPeople 1 year ago
pro tools has more headroom than logic.
matty80 2 years ago
@matty80 what are you on? have you been taking something today? 0dB is 0dB, period!
MissingAmongPeople 1 year ago
your 110% WRONG........ dumb ass
No no. Protools does not have it's own sound.
It has been proven many times now. The argument was put to rest some years ago now and has been tested with reverse phase tests etc.
All the major DAWS (PT, Nuendo, Cubase, Logic etc) sound EXACTLY the same.
If you are letting which DAW you use influence mixing decisions then your decisions are not based on the raw material.
Please do your research before coming back at me on this. Like I said it's a dead debate
bluesteelpump 2 years ago 2
Hmmm... there are lite differences.
1) Summing algorithms are often different (not in quality but in value)
2) with 32bit floating point there are virtually no clippings (much headroom to go over 0dBFS). Obviously you have to go below 0dB soon or later, in mix render or in mastering. But if something get out of control (plugins, expecially phasers) you have no hard clippings.
But if we speak about "sound": Yes. Exactly the same because are NUMBERS what we're working on. 1+1=2 everywhere.
Dokdude 2 years ago
your a dumbass. Learn about binary code.
briauc 2 years ago
what guitar is this? wot program
mouimen 3 years ago
i love the free education i get from the internet.
quartercherries 3 years ago
So right man I learned how to mix on a System 5 mC from watching the Videos online
I had to asist the man at Guitar Center on how to make the nuendo system see the system 5 mc. He said it needed some update I said no way man Nuendo 3.1 and beyond already supports it
zellymusic 3 years ago
nice sound
LordHines420 3 years ago
Awesome tip! Just tried it today! Sounds amazing. Although I prefer using a UAD NEVE 1073 for the EQ Boosts.
tdstotler 3 years ago
Great Tip. Thanks for making this video it is going on my blog.
recordbetteraudio 3 years ago