This one actually showe the helmsman turning the wheel to the right. The helm was rigged backwards in 1912, opposite to what the rudder was actually doing. This harked back to when ships were steered by tiller. To turn to port (left), you put the tiller starboard. I also read somewhere that the Masaba's ice message was not delivered to the bridge because of protocol-it wasn't addressed to the caoptain. If it had been, it would have been taken directly to the bridge.
I'm not going to go into whether Smith's previous encounters with the Olympic had anything to do with Titanic hitting an iceburg. However, I am tired of everyone seeing Ismay as the only bad guy in the situation, he wasn't, Smith had MANY near misses and collisions in his career, and was somewhat of a wrekless captian himself, how he become Commandant of White Star Line is beyond me. With that said, I DO prefer Smith's lines in this vs James camerons, james made smith to be a complete pushover.
Smith's "responsibility" goes even further. He left Southampton too fast and the suction of his mighty ship pulled the old "City of New York" from its moorings and made her swing into Titanic's way. Titanic had to stop until the tugs had cleared the situation,
S'he never made up that loss of time and would have missed the iceberg if she had not been exactly there at that minute.
@JustPhilNY Not to mention the fact that they picked the wrong Alice Cleaver (the nanny wasn't a killer) , many sets were completely inaccurate (the ship missing a deck, not to mention facing the wrong way when she left Southampton) and gross misrepresentation of other characters like Molly Brown and the Alison Family.
@playfulpaul1985 Neither's particularly close, but James Cameron's is closer. They don't even turn the wheel the right way in this one. They both make the mistake of showing the engines being reversed. "Full astern" was never signalled (as later evidenced by both Hitchins and Lightoller) as there would never have been time to reverse in the seconds before the collision; the engine room was signalled to "stop" instead - this was only just carried out before the collision.
@JustPhilNY I doubt it. This movie includes a lot of history facts that James Cameron's Titanic missed. For example, they didn't include the SS California in the JC's Titanic and they did here. It's not as bad as it is boring.
@JoeyVoicesProduction At the same time, it OMITS a lot of the history that Cameron got. Where's Thomas Andrews here? Why are all the sets wrong?
By the way, they did shoot a scene with the California for Cameron's version. It's actually a bit better than the one in here, simple yet highly ominous.
The Californian scene was omitted from Cameron's film but this one you can tell the movie was filmed on the Queen Mary. Thomas Andrews being omitted, and you have George C. Scott who is famous for his role as General Patton playing Captain Smith as well General Patton. One thing they also got right with this is the story of Allison Hayes, she was killed because her mother wouldn't leave without her brother, unaware that the baby and the nanny had already fled in boat 11
Murdoch uses a pair of binoculars to get a better view of the iceberg just after it has been sighted. In reality, due to a mix up at Southampton no Titanic officers had binoculars.
0L24 Murdoch uses a pair of binoculars to get a better view of the iceberg just after it has been sighted. In reality, due to a mix up at Southampton no Titanic officers had binoculars.
On ships binoculars are used to identify objects not to scan the horizen as this would limit their vision and they did not know that there was an iceburg in front of the ship so they would have no reason to be for one.
their is no laughing any time a ship is damaged or anything it is taken as the most serious event. their is no joking those rich ppl can laugh but if they knew that the iceberge was their end they would have ran for their familys and to the boats
A little incorrect movie...the engines cant be reversed that quick, a reverse takes anywhere from 20-40 seconds. And in the movie, the ship hit, with almost no speed, and then she started to drive again, with the engines reversed :D
@hallo1521 it would take about 5 minutes to totally slow the engine down to a complete stop then another 5 minutes to spin it up to full speed in reverse.
@MetalSanke well that depends if they abandoned ship right then, sure all the life boats would've been launched, but with the ship still moving, it could have caused the life boats to collapse and if that didn't happen, u still had the other half of the people on board,
@berbagod1994 if the Olympic haven't hit the Hawke, White Star would have releashed Titanic on March 20th, instead of April 10th, and ice tends to be in the shipping lanes every April from Greenland. Smith changed Titanic's course, but Bride didn't deliver Mesaba's message to the bridge, which decribes an iceberg directly in Titanic's path. Smith didn't know about Mesaba's message, so, with Ismay's message in mind, Smith didn't slow down Titanic before he went to bed and sealed the ship's fate.
The quotes during the incident are famous. Why they changed them here, I have no idea. That's the only credit I'll give James Cameron (that and how the actors matched their true characters so well)
The last couple minutes of this clip are the best; describes more the structure of the ship and what could have been done vs. what was said in the 1997 movie.
big mistake here: andrews said the ship was about two hours, not smith.
aeroavia89 1 week ago
@aeroavia89 the ship was 2 hours? you mean HAD 2 hours?
ConstructionCentral 6 days ago
Ummm, why don't the lookouts have the binoculars?
robertcarlisle90 2 weeks ago
This one actually showe the helmsman turning the wheel to the right. The helm was rigged backwards in 1912, opposite to what the rudder was actually doing. This harked back to when ships were steered by tiller. To turn to port (left), you put the tiller starboard. I also read somewhere that the Masaba's ice message was not delivered to the bridge because of protocol-it wasn't addressed to the caoptain. If it had been, it would have been taken directly to the bridge.
bruce8420 2 weeks ago
turn WHORE turn
ConstructionCentral 2 weeks ago
Here is not Thomas Andrews the ingenieur. Great mistake.
raulox71 1 month ago
I'm not going to go into whether Smith's previous encounters with the Olympic had anything to do with Titanic hitting an iceburg. However, I am tired of everyone seeing Ismay as the only bad guy in the situation, he wasn't, Smith had MANY near misses and collisions in his career, and was somewhat of a wrekless captian himself, how he become Commandant of White Star Line is beyond me. With that said, I DO prefer Smith's lines in this vs James camerons, james made smith to be a complete pushover.
CFLsurfr 1 month ago
Still prefer james cameron's film
MDCAngryWalnut 1 month ago
Smith's "responsibility" goes even further. He left Southampton too fast and the suction of his mighty ship pulled the old "City of New York" from its moorings and made her swing into Titanic's way. Titanic had to stop until the tugs had cleared the situation,
S'he never made up that loss of time and would have missed the iceberg if she had not been exactly there at that minute.
Jeansschwimmer 1 month ago
im wondering what is more truthful to what really happened in realality this or james camerons version? or none of them?
playfulpaul1985 2 months ago
@playfulpaul1985 this one
JoeyVoicesProduction 2 months ago
@JoeyVoicesProduction no not this one...
randomrazr 1 month ago
@JoeyVoicesProduction the Titanic's hadn't binoculars, so James Cameron's version is truthful for me.
edu16995 1 month ago
@JoeyVoicesProduction I'd go with the Cameron one. It did not omit Thomas Andrews.
JustPhilNY 1 week ago
@JustPhilNY Not to mention the fact that they picked the wrong Alice Cleaver (the nanny wasn't a killer) , many sets were completely inaccurate (the ship missing a deck, not to mention facing the wrong way when she left Southampton) and gross misrepresentation of other characters like Molly Brown and the Alison Family.
DJOZ88 6 days ago
@playfulpaul1985 Neither's particularly close, but James Cameron's is closer. They don't even turn the wheel the right way in this one. They both make the mistake of showing the engines being reversed. "Full astern" was never signalled (as later evidenced by both Hitchins and Lightoller) as there would never have been time to reverse in the seconds before the collision; the engine room was signalled to "stop" instead - this was only just carried out before the collision.
BamBogleBlaster 1 month ago
what is better james camerons version or this one?
playfulpaul1985 2 months ago
I have this one on VHS. It was finished in a hurry to piggy-back on Cameron's Titanic pre-release hysteria!
rags015 4 months ago
'hard over starboard'
a few seconds later
'hard over sir'
I thought turning the ship's wheel took longer than that!
er10b 4 months ago
@er10b rofl...I know...it made ma laugh in real life. Cameron > this
RobertMuldooJP 3 months ago
I cannot help but wonder if this is nearly as bad as either of the animated Titanic movies.
JustPhilNY 5 months ago
@JustPhilNY I doubt it. This movie includes a lot of history facts that James Cameron's Titanic missed. For example, they didn't include the SS California in the JC's Titanic and they did here. It's not as bad as it is boring.
JoeyVoicesProduction 5 months ago
@JoeyVoicesProduction At the same time, it OMITS a lot of the history that Cameron got. Where's Thomas Andrews here? Why are all the sets wrong?
By the way, they did shoot a scene with the California for Cameron's version. It's actually a bit better than the one in here, simple yet highly ominous.
JustPhilNY 5 months ago
@JustPhilNY
The Californian scene was omitted from Cameron's film but this one you can tell the movie was filmed on the Queen Mary. Thomas Andrews being omitted, and you have George C. Scott who is famous for his role as General Patton playing Captain Smith as well General Patton. One thing they also got right with this is the story of Allison Hayes, she was killed because her mother wouldn't leave without her brother, unaware that the baby and the nanny had already fled in boat 11
snakes3425 2 months ago
Murdoch uses a pair of binoculars to get a better view of the iceberg just after it has been sighted. In reality, due to a mix up at Southampton no Titanic officers had binoculars.
pm41224 5 months ago
0L24 Murdoch uses a pair of binoculars to get a better view of the iceberg just after it has been sighted. In reality, due to a mix up at Southampton no Titanic officers had binoculars.
pm41224 5 months ago
The crew on the titanic didn't even have binoculars. If they did, they would have seen the iceberg earlier they would have avoided it.
applefan2151 5 months ago
@applefan2151
On ships binoculars are used to identify objects not to scan the horizen as this would limit their vision and they did not know that there was an iceburg in front of the ship so they would have no reason to be for one.
Id1443890780 4 months ago
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat u no stop engineeeee man
sangurucuari 5 months ago
their is no laughing any time a ship is damaged or anything it is taken as the most serious event. their is no joking those rich ppl can laugh but if they knew that the iceberge was their end they would have ran for their familys and to the boats
MultiDocdoom 6 months ago
shiiiiiiiiiiiit
sangurucuari 7 months ago
Sure the rich smugs r all laughin n jokin at first but as u all know...this was NO joke
ChristianCageCarisma 8 months ago
A little incorrect movie...the engines cant be reversed that quick, a reverse takes anywhere from 20-40 seconds. And in the movie, the ship hit, with almost no speed, and then she started to drive again, with the engines reversed :D
andromedarr 9 months ago
@andromedarr Then why not look at the James Cameron's version of the film!
AirCanadaA55555A 9 months ago
@AirCanadaA55555A James Cameroon's is also incorrect :D
But i like this version better, as the leak is better
andromedarr 9 months ago
@andromedarr But still, beside of what is said, it is more likely for Titanic to hit an iceberg with snow rather than a dry ice glacier!
AirCanadaA55555A 9 months ago
@andromedarr
Reverse a that big engine withhin 20 seconds?
No way I think the masses are too big at a 4 storey high engine, which weigh more than 100 tons
hallo1521 6 months ago
@hallo1521 it would take about 5 minutes to totally slow the engine down to a complete stop then another 5 minutes to spin it up to full speed in reverse.
erikals2 4 months ago
@erikals2
So what did happen then? (slow come to stop? no reverse?).
otester 3 months ago
that is so bad compared to the 1997 movie.
TitanicAddict1912 9 months ago
The captain should of immediately ordered everybody to abandon ship. The death toll would of been far less.
MetalSanke 9 months ago
@MetalSanke well that depends if they abandoned ship right then, sure all the life boats would've been launched, but with the ship still moving, it could have caused the life boats to collapse and if that didn't happen, u still had the other half of the people on board,
GunShooter1314 7 months ago
whats the olympic hitting hawke got to do with the titanics collision?
berbagod1994 10 months ago
@berbagod1994 if the Olympic haven't hit the Hawke, White Star would have releashed Titanic on March 20th, instead of April 10th, and ice tends to be in the shipping lanes every April from Greenland. Smith changed Titanic's course, but Bride didn't deliver Mesaba's message to the bridge, which decribes an iceberg directly in Titanic's path. Smith didn't know about Mesaba's message, so, with Ismay's message in mind, Smith didn't slow down Titanic before he went to bed and sealed the ship's fate.
JoeyVoicesProduction 10 months ago
k thx (:
MrTitanic9 10 months ago
where can i buy this moive
MrTitanic9 10 months ago
@MrTitanic9 eBay or Amazon
JoeyVoicesProduction 10 months ago
The quotes during the incident are famous. Why they changed them here, I have no idea. That's the only credit I'll give James Cameron (that and how the actors matched their true characters so well)
Frost770 11 months ago
The last couple minutes of this clip are the best; describes more the structure of the ship and what could have been done vs. what was said in the 1997 movie.
notBMW18 11 months ago
this looks proper fake
govy619club18 1 year ago
It is from the '96 movie
golfer82484 1 year ago
this looks really kinda fake
parfitt21 1 year ago
@parfitt21 Low budget production . . .
braccheus1 1 year ago
i hated it how the guy hesitated
captainofthetitanic 1 year ago
Funny series! I see a lot of resemblance with the 1997 film. Cameron pulled a little bit of the robery i see.. :)
vcwsmit 1 year ago
It takes no time a all for the quarter mater to put the helm hard over-bad mistake
calum361 1 year ago
i believe this is from titanic 1996
Davis4037 1 year ago
I WANT MORE!!!!!!!
swallowstreak226 1 year ago