Sorry, but I am on the verge of being an old man. Your condesending attitude has earned the vulgar remarks. Don't want to hear them? Shut the fuck up then, cunt pickle. Again, your pseudo-intelligence is not impressing me.
Hey, kiddos, want to see a fairy tale that adults really believe? Google whale evolution and go watch a 7 minutes video on the PBS web site that shows how an ancient 200 pound wolf searched for food along the beach, wander out into the surf, and morphed (evolved) into a 100 ton whale. There is nothing scientific about it, but nonetheless, this is the fairy tale that some adults really believe! Especially comical are the nostrils migrating to the top of the head to become a blow hole!
@shadysfan4life You don't get what I said? Well, that also shows why you think this video is "gay". You have the IQ of a spork. Go to your channel, go to the part where it says "Books." What does it say there?
Bible.
Now, before you speak to someone about being American and proper vernacular. I suggest you go get a job, and an education. Leave the bronze aged fairy tales behind (yeah, that book).. pull up your pants.. and get a god damn hair cut. Hippy.
@mosoi148 I bet you feel like such a bad ass over the net don't you? Well if you love your apes so much why not go live with one and learn from them? you would be smarter at least
@shadysfan4life “Primates” are collectively defined as any gill-less, organic RNA/DNA protein-based, metabolic, metazoic, nucleic, diploid, bilaterally-symmetrical, endothermic, digestive, tryploblast, opisthokont, deuterostome coelemate with a spinal chord and 12 cranial nerves connecting to a limbic system in an enlarged cerebrial cortex with a reduced olfactory region inside a jawed-skull with specialized teeth including canines and premolars, forward-oriented fully-enclosed optical orbits,
@mosoi148 IF your going to have an argument then try one with your own words... in your other replies you said stuff a little kid would say now you trying to act like the smartest kid in the world. Instead of copy and pasting try actually trying to prove me wrong even though you wont
@shadysfan4life Look. If the information that CDk007 provided in his video was not evidence enough for you then nothing is. The fact that we share over 95% of the same DNA with Chimps. Human Chromosome #2 is a fusion of Great Ape Chromosome's. This is easily shown by codon and telomere placement. Meaningless?
You haven't said even one thing remotely intelligent, so you are one to talk. "Gay" and Redneck," "love apes so much go live with one" who is the one that sounds like a little kid?
@mosoi148 i honestly dont give a damn what you think so why are you still trying to convince me that the stupid shit is real.... You think i care that you think were part ape? No. so you should just stop replying because if you don't well i will....
@shadysfan4life and a single temporal fenestra, -attached to a vertebrate hind-leg dominant tetrapoidal skeleton with a sacral pelvis, clavical, and wrist & ankle bones; and having lungs, tear ducts, body-wide hair follicles, lactal mammaries, opposable thumbs, and keratinized dermis with chitinous nails on all five digits on all four extremities, in addition to an embryonic development in amniotic fluid, leading to a placental birth and highly social lifestyle.
@shadysfan4life "This is the gayest shit i ever seen...."========Excellent response backed by scientific evidence....well sorta......not at all. Jesus must be proud to have you on his team.
Thanks for this video, im not in biological sciences (Math FTW) so its difficult to analyze something extremely technical from a layman's prospective.
The anology of the ships being created by the ship wrecks is exactly what evolution assumes about order in the entire cosmos! Try looking at the probabilities of naturalistic evolution happening in the first place, then we'll have a look at probabilities of ERV's in chimps and humans. If you can get past the first, then you may have an argument for the second.
"The anology of the ships being created by the ship wrecks is exactly what evolution assumes about order in the entire cosmos!"
Nope. Try again.
"ERV's in chimps and humans."
Explain, without common descent, why ERVs appear in the same locations in the genomes of chimps and human beings. Did God just think it would be a fun thing to put them there, or what?
@MomoTheBellyDancer Yes that is exactly what evolution assumes. Big bang = chaos + time = order. Ship wrecks to ships. It's your theory not mine.
Maybe the virus makes its home in the same part of the genome whoever its host may be. Again, my point was that the probability of evolution happening in the first place is so far less than the probability of ERV's in chimps and humans that the argument for the latter is useless unless you can get by the first probability.
@DMilbury Can you explain how the rapid expansion of space is related to the theory of evolution? I had no idea biologists were also cosmologists or came up with E=MC2
@DMilbury Sorry, but I forgot what I was posting about concerning a post of yours, but it may of had something to do with lumping the big bang and evolution together. If it wasnt then please ignore my post
@thybigballs Science is all connected. Without one form of science we could have no reasonable understanding of another. We work together. Cooperation is how we were able to evolve this far in the first place.
@cavemantiger Arguing that evolution is false as well as the big bang is lumping two seperate theories together? They are not related subjects.Thats like arguing that a fine threaded bolt is stronger than a course threaded bolt, then saying the sun revolves around the earth. They are not related subjects.
@thybigballs Of course they are together. Without knowledge of how our earth cm to be, when, how old it is, what it was composed of at certain times, elements and conditions, we could never expect to understand basic archeological records, which would make evolution a mystery to us all. They are related... you thinking otherwise explains your sheer lack of education.
@cavemantiger You think you are one clever mother fucker, huh? You are a douche. Thinking otherwise explains your sheer douchism. Quit it with playing Mr. Intelligent... it isn't working.
@thybigballs Oh the hypocrisy.... I would be more impressed if your fallacious replies actually had some solidity to them. But seeing as they are no more than flimsy tantrums expressing your inability to counter with a respected and acceptable rebuttal... I couldn't be bothered. :)
@cavemantiger Oh no, you speak of hypocrisy and respect after forgetting you just claimed someone lacks education. You're a fucking cunt pickle. Plain and simple. And I don't give a damn for one second about your science philosophy. It's bullshit in relation to what I was discussing WITH SOMEONE ELSE. So please, kindly go suck a dick as I am not impressed for one second with anything you have said. I can do this all day.
@thybigballs Your inability to create a single coherent sentence without the use of childish and vulgar remarks demonstrates your terrible lack of maturity... I assume you are about 12 years old? 13 perhaps? In which case, don't worry, you'll grow and learn later in life and soon become able to use speech and thinking methods to better yourself and earn the respect of people around you. Until then, enjoy your naive innocent youth, it only lasts so long. :)
@transtlantic exactly. evolution is the true answer to what was once a mystery filled with superstition, because it was all we had. now that we have technology, we have no need for superstitions like magic, gods, etc
@cavemantiger Darwinian Evolution is no true answer in the slightest, and you are very foolish to equate God on the same plane as magic and super stition.
You can't prove an idea that is contradicted by the very fields of science it is supposedly based on. The Darwinian prediction is a joke. There is surely a commonality in biological life, Darwinism is not the explanation for it, however.
God exists, whether you care to agree or not. On your end, all that is involved is the denial of this reality, plain and simple. You are ready to submit to an atheistic materialism, when there exists a temporal universe we know began a finite amount of time ago. If God did not exist, then noting would.
@RaizeMusic The fields of science prove it, not contradict it. There is not a single bit of contradiction.
God does not exist, there is no proof. Reality is something that exists and can be proven.
Evolution is reality. God is not reality. You poor, simple thing.
God does not exist, everything else does. You just don't want to acknowledge the truth because you're primal fears keep you clutching that security blanket you call religion. LOL how pathetic.
@cavemantiger "There is not a single bit of contradiction."
Sure there is no contradiction, provided you are generally ignorant on what evolution is and the state of the evidence it is supposedly based on. But in your case, ignorance is bliss.
"Evolution is reality. God is not reality."
You can't even begin to articulate what reality consists of.
Aside from sticking your fingers in your ears, and then sticking your head in the sand, the irony is that you are the poor thing who is clutching to a security blanket, and refusing to face truth and reality. A strong indication of those in denial, they do not engage, dismiss you, and then run away while claiming to be correct. Your foolishness will cost you, sadly
@cavemantiger "It's people like you that allow ignorance and stupidity to still exist in the world"
Oh really? Is that why many of the early forefathers of science, from Newton to Pascal to Boyle, were all God believing? You are bankrupt, according to you, having faith = scientific stupidity and unintelligence, when history itself is the unpleasant "slap in your face" in regards to that. You need to wake up, your prejudice is putrid and meaningless.
@cavemantiger "If you have any sense of a brain, you could learn about it."
If you have heard of evolution, I highly doubt you actually understand what it means, as most who claim it to be correct and perpetuate it dogmatically, like yourself, consistently prove to be ignorant of it actually is.
Noun: The process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the... The gradual development of something, esp. from a simple to a more complex form.
@cavemantiger Evolution is purely an explanation of how there came to be such variation in life. It has nothing to say on how life started (biogenesis) or on the big bang (cosmology). Evolution could well be false, but it wouldn't affect whether the truth, or otherwise, of the big bang theory.
Also, the big bang theory is just an explanation of how the universe went from singularity to space/time/matter/energy. It may turn out to be false, but it would have no effect on the truth of evolution.
@St00sh13 Who said the big bang and evolution were dependent? they can coexist, and they are related. nothing more.
my point is, a god is unable to coexist with either big bang or evolution. and since we proved evolution ages ago, and god is not compatible, big bang is the only theory we have.
@MomoTheBellyDancer my creationist friend told me satan put the fossils to fool us. what kind of god creates us to fool us and burn us in eternal fire? i mean theres no proof for god and thousands of proof for big bang and evo but we need to believe in something with no proof to go to heaven?
@DMilbury Since the scope of a self-replicating molecule is orders of magnitude greater than the scope of humans or chimps let alone erv's shared between humans and chimps, I would like to say that your argument is hopelessly shipwrecked, but then you know even less about shipwrecks, so I won't say it.
@TerrencePhillip66 What molecule self-replicates, and then changes from its original state to another, and from that to say... a dog? If you think that is more probable than ERV's being in chimps and humans then I don't think you're being honest with yourself.
@MomoTheBellyDancer Pure inference doesn't cut the mustard. Speciation does not follow from what DNA does in bioligoical inheritance. I'm afaid you will be hard pressed to show me an example supporting your claim.
@MomoTheBellyDancer sorry you have no idea what evolution is you think its like pokemon one organism magically changes to another but no this isnt how it works. organisms adapt to their surrounding different organisms live in different surroundings and they adapt differently. just like africans adapted more melanin to survive heat and caucasians have lesser melanin pigment to survive cold. the DNA mutates and when it does the offspring also has the same characteristics.
@john5o Well, religion can't have facts for their claim, no matter how hard they tried lol. They're claims are supernatural, incapable of being supported by evidence by definition.
Once Upon a Time, a one-celled organism was doing the backstroke in its puddle of nutrient-rich slime, and it realized that it was bored. Just to break the monotony, it decided to accidentally evolve into a creature with gender - and set about spending the next few million years accidentally becoming a male. All the while hoping that a similar blob of ooze was busy accidentally evolving into a female, otherwise, what was the point? And, with luck she'd live on the same side of Mother Earth...
You can fix the problem I just mentioned if you also showed that retroviruses had unique genetic signatures, and that THE SAME RETROVIRUS was inserted into the same locations on both chimp and human chromosomes. I suspect this is the case, but I do not know. Fixing that would make your case more "creationist-proof".
Great video! I noticed one loophole in your proof, though. The most scientific explanation for the shared locations of the insertions is of course evolution, but your argument and calculations assume that all sites on the genome are equally likely to be targeted for ERV insertions. If there were something special about certain sites on the genomes that made them more susceptible to insertions, then your calculations do not apply, and the insertions would not be evidence of common descent.
@loujost even if there were only 2 special sites at which ERVs can insert the probability of sharing the 90.000 ERVs we share would still be astronomically low ( 1/2^90k = 1/10^20k ).
ERVs do not have PERFECT site selection (IE they all go to that site) so the minimum possible is 2, which means that by the most conservative estimate evolution predicted the equivalent of 1000 lotteries.
Because hominids have evolved into modern day humans or become extinct. Look I'd suggest you look at some of the videos on Youtube about evolution. There are some great ones out there that simply explain how evolution works. Before you make your mind up either way do a little research.
our dna is almost the same as mites too? did we evolve from mites? how about corn? eh nevermind honsetly im tired of talking about evolution..i think im gonna kill myself so i can find out the truth..ill come back and let you guys know
@UndercoverCracker Everything is constantly subject to the forces of evolution. You have to remember we're talking hundreds of thousands of years if not millions for this to happen. It won't happen overnight.
Alll these "proofs" say nothing at all. Except that we are very similar to monkeys! (which does NOT prove that we have a common ancestor.) Also, evolution can easily be proved wrong. Scientists today can travel all over the world and study animals. And film them. (something Darwin could never do. Also, he had only seen a small part of the world.) It turns out animals change behaviour very quickly. If they have to! (depending on changes in their environment.)
It goes something like this. Boys, we have to figure out how the universe came to be. Oh, and you cant say that a Supreme being made it all. Now get to work. Remember, whatever you come up with cant be absolutely proven or disproven so just come up with something and agree on it.
Evolution-believers are unlikely to be aware of this quote by Charles Darwin himself:
"As by this theory (evolution), innumerable transitional forms must have existed. Why do we not find them imbedded in the crust of the earth? Why is all nature not in confusion instead of being as we see them, well-defined species? Geological research does not yield the infinitely many fine gradations between past and present species required by the theory" -- Charles Darwin
@chrisofnottingham It's quoting Jesus so yeah, I guess it is a loving Christian thing to say. You will be judged, and that's a fact. And so will I and so will every other human who has ever lived. God loves, but not unconditionally. He wants us to love Him back, and if we refuse to do so there is no place for us in Heaven. Jesus made this very clear, so don't quote me out of context.
@GirliqueDownUnder It is interesting that you don't think karma will judge me. Lord Sri Krishna and even Gautama Buddha were fairly clear about this. Your Christian God is a bit of a thug compared the their real source of existence.
@chrisofnottingham Karma has nothing to do with it - there is no mention of karma in the bible. God is a loving God, who expects love in return. His enormous love for us was shown in the enormous sacrifice His son, Jesus, made for each and every one of us. But we live in a fallen world and our sin separates us from God. It is only through the redemption provided by Jesus that we can be with God. Nothing to do with being a thug.
Exactly. All the scripture from the ancient Vedas, through the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita taken from the Mahabharata and also the works of the Buddha explain that unless unity with universal consciousness is achieved then the jiva is reborn in circumstances dictated by the system of karma. Failure to mention karma and rebirth is one way we know that the Bible is a modern corruption of the truth.
Evolution is false, a lie perpetuated by satan in order to separate you from God. Sorry, but that's the truth and you won't get me changing my mind. I've seen something that no-one should have to see and take my word for it - God is real and He will judge you one day.
@GirliqueDownUnder if you say evolution is false, then please can you respond to the evidence put forward in this video. Its incredible that with such clearly set out evidence can be dismissed so easilly, so please can you show how this evidence is false?
@987viewer truly don't want to think about it, talk about it, remember it. But I wasn't on drugs (I was at work), was not hallucinating and hadn't even had a coffee that day. It wasn't something beautiful or angelic, it was the complete opposite and absolutely terrifying (In the middle of the office with everyone working). So my beliefs are based on that and I work backwards from what I saw that day. I know evil exists, therefore I believe in God, therefore I do not believe in evolution.
@jesse8857 Sorry you're being "attacked". It's called debating your position. A person who makes a video response and disables comments isn't interested in an free exchange of ideas at all. He just wants to preach dogma in order to convince himself that it's true.
@jesse8857 You mean they pull you up on inaccuracy... well I'm afraid thats just one of the dangers of insisting X is accurate but then not being able to support that position. Thats not attacking you, thats calling you out on BS!
This might have escaped your attention... but you'll notice a huge discrepancy between religious claimants and their unwillingness to allow comments... and vids like this...
maybe you could give an example of a vid on evolution with comments disabled? one perhaps?
@jesse8857 No doubt I'm also attacking you now too.... but perhaps if you got a little more comfortable with the idea of 'EXCHANGE' of ideas you wouldn't see it that way.
Yeah its terrible the way the 'free ride' for religion just disappeared... in a puff of logic! From here on in its no respect when respect is earned, and that'll be a pretty long time if you can't even agree to allow comments on your position.
You'll need to get used to that scenario, it won't be getting any better for you.
Thanks for this informative, yet easy-to-understand video.
The ERV matches in primates and the chromosomal fusion in humans essentially shoot down any claim that we don't have common ancestry. If creationists are right, the creator would have to go out of his/her way to make it seem as if we actually do have common ancestry, while still expecting us to believe otherwise. That's just not parsimonious.
"Einstein's formula - E=mc^2 - [...] Einstein was just saying the speed of light squared - 186,000 times 186,000 - that is a huge number. I don't think anybody knows, including Einstein, that that exact number is correct "
@odinata I would have to watch the video to see whether he really said it in that context, but if he did, then of course, he must be crazy! Get out a calculator! Because of this very reason, I think he didn't say it in that context...[?] Anywhere on youtube that I can watch the vid?
@jesse8857 Hopefully you'll learn in your junior year of high school that academic publications are written largely without referring to the self. "I," "Me," "My," "We," etc. are a no-no. This is such a fundamental rule for publication that it's almost... puerile that Hovind would violate this rule of thumb in the first sentence of what is supposed to be a doctoral dissertation.
@jesse8857 I wouldn't say that it precludes validity in any of his arguments, but it does reveal his complete ignorance for publication. It's such a fundamental flaw that it lends credence to the idea that he's not competent enough to contribute to any professional scientific field. When it is plain that a person is trying to display knowledge they don't have, people laugh. Kenneth Branagh did it. Chris Farley did it. Chaplin did it. At face value, I'd have to agree.
@jesse8857 One does not start a doctoral thesis with the words 'hello my name is...' thats stupid!
And no...his doctoral thesis itself explains why he's an idiot... read it... assuming you'd like a spot of comedy.
And notice that in a doctoral thesis generally one will fail miserably if you do not submit sources for your data. He submitted not single source, for anything.
@jesse8857 NAh he said it alright... its even mentioned on Christian websites.... Hovind is not too well educated to be honest so you can't expect him to know too much... why he even mentioned relativity is frankly beyond me... probably cos he knows whatever little he knows... is ultimately more than his audience knows!
Forget about using the defense he doesn't need to pay tax cos the bible gives him a tax free card... he should have pleaded total zero comprehension of math in all forms!
ERVs are part of ‘junk DNA’ which evolutionists assume has no function. If the ERVs have function, the argument for ERVs would evaporate. And they have function.
A.B. Conley; said in Bioinformatics 24, 2008: “Our analysis revealed that retroviral sequences in the human genome encode tens-of-thousands of active promoters; transcribed ERV sequences correspond to 1.16% of the human genome sequence and PET tags that capture transcripts initiated from ERVs cover 22.4% of the genome.”
I have no idea where you get this idea that those studying genetics think ERV's are non functional. They never did!
AIG is an open forum btw...anyone can read it! or paste from it!
It might be more educational for you to look at other creationists do the same.Then look up the actual articles.
What would AIG know anyway? They don't even posses a single gene sequencer, not one of them is a geneticist... so seriously...they wouldn't know any more than you clearly don't!
@MumblingMickey "AIG is an open forum btw" yes, almost as much as conservapedia is, tough the chinese government allows more freedom of speech than them both combined.
@DSkaz89 Which is a good reason not to take either as a good source... then again any book you buy in a store won't allow you to add comments either... unless you write all over it with a pen!
You'd just have to trust a source is accurate based on previous reputation and validity.
So I sorta won't be questioning Jack Kilby any time soon... since I'm using the fruits of his idea right now!
"Random mutations consistently destroy information." P. 15; "Selection cannot rescue the genome." P. 69; "Mutation / selection cannot even create a single gene." P. 123; "All evidence points to human genetic degradation." P.143 - Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome by Cornell U. Genetics Professor John Sanford. He holds 25 genetic patents and is the inventor of the gene gun. He is truly an expert on the subject of mutations and natural selection. Evolution is a fairy tale for adults.
"Random mutations consistently destroy information." P. 15; "Selection cannot rescue the genome." P. 69; "Mutation / selection cannot even create a single gene." P. 123; "All evidence points to human genetic degradation." P.143 - Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome by Cornell U. Genetics Professor John Sanford. He holds 25 genetic patents and is the inventor of the gene gun. He is truly an expert on the subject of mutations and natural selection. Evolution is a fairy tale for adults.
If the scientists do not exist, guess what? All the so-called spirituous leaders are still dying from diseases. Shut your fucking mouths and think before you talk, religious trollers.
@Ph7uX Yes you could become like the other militant Athiests Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung and do some real good for the world. Or you could act like you believe in Athiesm which says that eventually the Sun will supernova, you will die before that and unaware of it all any way, and it will all not matter one bit because all any living thing is, is jut a bio machine. Life will be gone soon enough and in the end none of it will have mattered. But yes, I think Hitler would agree with you!
@MrDeclandeadly No Hitler fully was commited to saving the world by killing as many of those nasty people as possible. though it is not known if he was an Atheist or not, he certainly held many of the core values that makes Atheism such a wonderful phylosophy today.
@songwriterdad But if you read his quotes, it is obvious he is a christian. But once again Godwins Law...
New species have arisen in historical times. For example: A new species of mosquito, isolated in London's Underground, has speciated from Culex pipiens (Byrne and Nichols 1999; Nuttall 1998) Helacyton gartleri is the HeLa cell culture, which evolved from a human cervical carcinoma in 1951. The culture grows indefinitely and has become widespread (Van Valen and Maiorana 1991)
@MrDeclandeadly Hitler was what ever was expedient at the time.
Do you hear what you are saying here? A mosqito evolved into a what...a mosquito? Well if I had known a mosquito evolved into a new species of mosquito I would have gone ahead and accepted evolution years ago.
And Hela cells are still Hela cell, did not evolve into anything
@songwriterdad Do you understand what a species actually is? I think you might want to read up on what speciation actually is. Each of these new species cannot breed with the species that they evolved from which is a dictionary defined species. By the way not believing in god is a religion as much as not liking football is a sport....
@MrDeclandeadly Well I know the definition of species has been changed in order to justify evolutionist hopes to justify their theory. Here is a question for you. How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?
Did you say five? Calling the tail a leg does not make it one. So saying a mosquito evolved into a new species of Mosquito really is about just remaming things like the tail of the dog. Isn't it?
This is a great video
thegeffc 1 week ago
Sorry, but I am on the verge of being an old man. Your condesending attitude has earned the vulgar remarks. Don't want to hear them? Shut the fuck up then, cunt pickle. Again, your pseudo-intelligence is not impressing me.
thybigballs 2 weeks ago
Religions Are Bullshit
GothicXCannibal 3 weeks ago
Hahaha, ok ok ok, I get it. We came from chimps! ;)
bweazel 2 months ago in playlist Evidence FOR Evolution and Against Creationism
@bweazel ouch ... saying that exposes that you don't know anything 'bout evolution ... we did not came from chips .... we shared a common ancestor //
IvanderHaisley 1 month ago
gg
Casshyr 2 months ago
yay for cdk007, i now have actual evidence to refer to in debates.
it's still an argument based on authority, just a tiny bit less.
homerfromhelI 2 months ago
Amazing video! I have become your fan! Thanks for sharing this!
pleasantleethedragon 3 months ago
thank you cdk007 you have completely destroy my question of religion :)
draco2420 3 months ago
music is nice
Togniaka 3 months ago
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Hey, kiddos, want to see a fairy tale that adults really believe? Google whale evolution and go watch a 7 minutes video on the PBS web site that shows how an ancient 200 pound wolf searched for food along the beach, wander out into the surf, and morphed (evolved) into a 100 ton whale. There is nothing scientific about it, but nonetheless, this is the fairy tale that some adults really believe! Especially comical are the nostrils migrating to the top of the head to become a blow hole!
achilles197474 3 months ago
This is the gayest shit i ever seen....
shadysfan4life 4 months ago
@shadysfan4life
STFU, GTFO.
mosoi148 3 months ago
@mosoi148 OH NO A MAD RED NECK
shadysfan4life 3 months ago
@shadysfan4life LMAO, what are you.. 5?. I can see why you thought this video was "gay:"
Books:Bible
Enough said.
mosoi148 3 months ago
@mosoi148 I don't get what you said? yes the Bible is a book. Your next lesson will be to talk like a real american not a red neck
shadysfan4life 3 months ago
@shadysfan4life You don't get what I said? Well, that also shows why you think this video is "gay". You have the IQ of a spork. Go to your channel, go to the part where it says "Books." What does it say there?
Bible.
Now, before you speak to someone about being American and proper vernacular. I suggest you go get a job, and an education. Leave the bronze aged fairy tales behind (yeah, that book).. pull up your pants.. and get a god damn hair cut. Hippy.
mosoi148 3 months ago
@mosoi148 I bet you feel like such a bad ass over the net don't you? Well if you love your apes so much why not go live with one and learn from them? you would be smarter at least
shadysfan4life 3 months ago
@shadysfan4life LOL, a bad ass? No, not at all. Once again you show your intelligence level. Humans are apes. Genius.
mosoi148 3 months ago
@mosoi148 according to the red neck
shadysfan4life 3 months ago
@shadysfan4life “Primates” are collectively defined as any gill-less, organic RNA/DNA protein-based, metabolic, metazoic, nucleic, diploid, bilaterally-symmetrical, endothermic, digestive, tryploblast, opisthokont, deuterostome coelemate with a spinal chord and 12 cranial nerves connecting to a limbic system in an enlarged cerebrial cortex with a reduced olfactory region inside a jawed-skull with specialized teeth including canines and premolars, forward-oriented fully-enclosed optical orbits,
mosoi148 3 months ago
@mosoi148 IF your going to have an argument then try one with your own words... in your other replies you said stuff a little kid would say now you trying to act like the smartest kid in the world. Instead of copy and pasting try actually trying to prove me wrong even though you wont
shadysfan4life 3 months ago
@shadysfan4life Look. If the information that CDk007 provided in his video was not evidence enough for you then nothing is. The fact that we share over 95% of the same DNA with Chimps. Human Chromosome #2 is a fusion of Great Ape Chromosome's. This is easily shown by codon and telomere placement. Meaningless?
You haven't said even one thing remotely intelligent, so you are one to talk. "Gay" and Redneck," "love apes so much go live with one" who is the one that sounds like a little kid?
mosoi148 3 months ago
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@mosoi148 i honestly dont give a damn what you think so why are you still trying to convince me that the stupid shit is real.... You think i care that you think were part ape? No. so you should just stop replying because if you don't well i will....
shadysfan4life 3 months ago
@mosoi148 FTW!
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mosoi148 3 months ago
@shadysfan4life and a single temporal fenestra, -attached to a vertebrate hind-leg dominant tetrapoidal skeleton with a sacral pelvis, clavical, and wrist & ankle bones; and having lungs, tear ducts, body-wide hair follicles, lactal mammaries, opposable thumbs, and keratinized dermis with chitinous nails on all five digits on all four extremities, in addition to an embryonic development in amniotic fluid, leading to a placental birth and highly social lifestyle.
You're a monkey. Get over it.
mosoi148 3 months ago
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@shadysfan4life "This is the gayest shit i ever seen...."========Excellent response backed by scientific evidence....well sorta......not at all. Jesus must be proud to have you on his team.
thybigballs 3 weeks ago
Thanks for this video, im not in biological sciences (Math FTW) so its difficult to analyze something extremely technical from a layman's prospective.
nigrah8ter 4 months ago
The anology of the ships being created by the ship wrecks is exactly what evolution assumes about order in the entire cosmos! Try looking at the probabilities of naturalistic evolution happening in the first place, then we'll have a look at probabilities of ERV's in chimps and humans. If you can get past the first, then you may have an argument for the second.
DMilbury 5 months ago
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@DMilbury
Why doesn't any of the science agree with you?
odinata 4 months ago
@DMilbury
"The anology of the ships being created by the ship wrecks is exactly what evolution assumes about order in the entire cosmos!"
Nope. Try again.
"ERV's in chimps and humans."
Explain, without common descent, why ERVs appear in the same locations in the genomes of chimps and human beings. Did God just think it would be a fun thing to put them there, or what?
MomoTheBellyDancer 4 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Yes that is exactly what evolution assumes. Big bang = chaos + time = order. Ship wrecks to ships. It's your theory not mine.
Maybe the virus makes its home in the same part of the genome whoever its host may be. Again, my point was that the probability of evolution happening in the first place is so far less than the probability of ERV's in chimps and humans that the argument for the latter is useless unless you can get by the first probability.
DMilbury 4 months ago
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@DMilbury
"Big bang = chaos + time = order."
Nope. Try again.
"Maybe the virus makes its home in the same part of the genome whoever its host may be. "
In every individual? At the exact same location? Common descent is a much simpler explanation. Occam's razor and all that.
"my point was that the probability of evolution happening in the first place is so far less "
Evolution HAPPENS, probability be damned.
MomoTheBellyDancer 4 months ago
@DMilbury Can you explain how the rapid expansion of space is related to the theory of evolution? I had no idea biologists were also cosmologists or came up with E=MC2
thybigballs 3 weeks ago
@thybigballs What are you really trying to say here?
DMilbury 2 weeks ago
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thybigballs 2 weeks ago
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@DMilbury Sorry, but I forgot what I was posting about concerning a post of yours, but it may of had something to do with lumping the big bang and evolution together. If it wasnt then please ignore my post
thybigballs 2 weeks ago
@thybigballs Science is all connected. Without one form of science we could have no reasonable understanding of another. We work together. Cooperation is how we were able to evolve this far in the first place.
cavemantiger 2 weeks ago
@cavemantiger Arguing that evolution is false as well as the big bang is lumping two seperate theories together? They are not related subjects.Thats like arguing that a fine threaded bolt is stronger than a course threaded bolt, then saying the sun revolves around the earth. They are not related subjects.
thybigballs 2 weeks ago
@thybigballs Of course they are together. Without knowledge of how our earth cm to be, when, how old it is, what it was composed of at certain times, elements and conditions, we could never expect to understand basic archeological records, which would make evolution a mystery to us all. They are related... you thinking otherwise explains your sheer lack of education.
cavemantiger 2 weeks ago
@cavemantiger You think you are one clever mother fucker, huh? You are a douche. Thinking otherwise explains your sheer douchism. Quit it with playing Mr. Intelligent... it isn't working.
thybigballs 2 weeks ago
@thybigballs Oh the hypocrisy.... I would be more impressed if your fallacious replies actually had some solidity to them. But seeing as they are no more than flimsy tantrums expressing your inability to counter with a respected and acceptable rebuttal... I couldn't be bothered. :)
cavemantiger 2 weeks ago
@cavemantiger Oh no, you speak of hypocrisy and respect after forgetting you just claimed someone lacks education. You're a fucking cunt pickle. Plain and simple. And I don't give a damn for one second about your science philosophy. It's bullshit in relation to what I was discussing WITH SOMEONE ELSE. So please, kindly go suck a dick as I am not impressed for one second with anything you have said. I can do this all day.
thybigballs 2 weeks ago
@thybigballs Your inability to create a single coherent sentence without the use of childish and vulgar remarks demonstrates your terrible lack of maturity... I assume you are about 12 years old? 13 perhaps? In which case, don't worry, you'll grow and learn later in life and soon become able to use speech and thinking methods to better yourself and earn the respect of people around you. Until then, enjoy your naive innocent youth, it only lasts so long. :)
cavemantiger 2 weeks ago
@cavemantiger
but evolution isn't a mistery thus religion fails.
transtlantic 2 weeks ago
@transtlantic exactly. evolution is the true answer to what was once a mystery filled with superstition, because it was all we had. now that we have technology, we have no need for superstitions like magic, gods, etc
cavemantiger 2 weeks ago
@cavemantiger Darwinian Evolution is no true answer in the slightest, and you are very foolish to equate God on the same plane as magic and super stition.
RaizeMusic 2 days ago
@RaizeMusic I can prove evolution. Can you prove God?
No, you can't. LOL
cavemantiger 2 days ago
@cavemantiger "I can prove evolution."
You can't prove an idea that is contradicted by the very fields of science it is supposedly based on. The Darwinian prediction is a joke. There is surely a commonality in biological life, Darwinism is not the explanation for it, however.
RaizeMusic 2 days ago
"No, you can't. LOL"
God exists, whether you care to agree or not. On your end, all that is involved is the denial of this reality, plain and simple. You are ready to submit to an atheistic materialism, when there exists a temporal universe we know began a finite amount of time ago. If God did not exist, then noting would.
RaizeMusic 2 days ago
@RaizeMusic The fields of science prove it, not contradict it. There is not a single bit of contradiction.
God does not exist, there is no proof. Reality is something that exists and can be proven.
Evolution is reality. God is not reality. You poor, simple thing.
God does not exist, everything else does. You just don't want to acknowledge the truth because you're primal fears keep you clutching that security blanket you call religion. LOL how pathetic.
cavemantiger 2 days ago
@cavemantiger "There is not a single bit of contradiction."
Sure there is no contradiction, provided you are generally ignorant on what evolution is and the state of the evidence it is supposedly based on. But in your case, ignorance is bliss.
"Evolution is reality. God is not reality."
You can't even begin to articulate what reality consists of.
RaizeMusic 2 days ago
"LOL how pathetic"
Aside from sticking your fingers in your ears, and then sticking your head in the sand, the irony is that you are the poor thing who is clutching to a security blanket, and refusing to face truth and reality. A strong indication of those in denial, they do not engage, dismiss you, and then run away while claiming to be correct. Your foolishness will cost you, sadly
RaizeMusic 2 days ago
@RaizeMusic I have loads of proof of evolution. It is real. If you have any sense of a brain, you could learn about it.
Where is your proof for your magical fairy god?
It's people like you that allow ignorance and stupidity to still exist in the world.
cavemantiger 1 day ago
@cavemantiger "It's people like you that allow ignorance and stupidity to still exist in the world"
Oh really? Is that why many of the early forefathers of science, from Newton to Pascal to Boyle, were all God believing? You are bankrupt, according to you, having faith = scientific stupidity and unintelligence, when history itself is the unpleasant "slap in your face" in regards to that. You need to wake up, your prejudice is putrid and meaningless.
RaizeMusic 1 day ago
@cavemantiger "If you have any sense of a brain, you could learn about it."
If you have heard of evolution, I highly doubt you actually understand what it means, as most who claim it to be correct and perpetuate it dogmatically, like yourself, consistently prove to be ignorant of it actually is.
RaizeMusic 1 day ago
@RaizeMusic ev·o·lu·tion/ˌevəˈlo͞oSHən/
Noun: The process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the... The gradual development of something, esp. from a simple to a more complex form.
Bankrupt was not the word you are looking for.
cavemantiger 1 day ago
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@transtlantic "but evolution isn't a mistery thus religion fails."
The real mystery is why the scientific community believes evolutionary theory to be scientifically sound.
RaizeMusic 2 days ago
@cavemantiger Evolution is purely an explanation of how there came to be such variation in life. It has nothing to say on how life started (biogenesis) or on the big bang (cosmology). Evolution could well be false, but it wouldn't affect whether the truth, or otherwise, of the big bang theory.
Also, the big bang theory is just an explanation of how the universe went from singularity to space/time/matter/energy. It may turn out to be false, but it would have no effect on the truth of evolution.
St00sh13 2 days ago
@St00sh13 Who said the big bang and evolution were dependent? they can coexist, and they are related. nothing more.
my point is, a god is unable to coexist with either big bang or evolution. and since we proved evolution ages ago, and god is not compatible, big bang is the only theory we have.
duh.
cavemantiger 2 days ago
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@cavemantiger
" ... Who said the big bang and evolution were dependent? ... "
Erm, you did?
" ... Of course they are together ... "
St00sh13 2 days ago
@cavemantiger Actually, I think my answer about cosmology etc, may have been to someone else.
St00sh13 2 days ago
@St00sh13 By the way, I am an atheist and evolution is the only explanation that has any evidence to support it,.
St00sh13 2 days ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer my creationist friend told me satan put the fossils to fool us. what kind of god creates us to fool us and burn us in eternal fire? i mean theres no proof for god and thousands of proof for big bang and evo but we need to believe in something with no proof to go to heaven?
Warxyph 3 months ago
@DMilbury Since the scope of a self-replicating molecule is orders of magnitude greater than the scope of humans or chimps let alone erv's shared between humans and chimps, I would like to say that your argument is hopelessly shipwrecked, but then you know even less about shipwrecks, so I won't say it.
TerrencePhillip66 4 months ago
@TerrencePhillip66 What molecule self-replicates, and then changes from its original state to another, and from that to say... a dog? If you think that is more probable than ERV's being in chimps and humans then I don't think you're being honest with yourself.
DMilbury 4 months ago
@DMilbury
"What molecule self-replicates, and then changes from its original state to another, and from that to say... a dog?"
DNA.
Thanks for playing.
MomoTheBellyDancer 4 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Pure inference doesn't cut the mustard. Speciation does not follow from what DNA does in bioligoical inheritance. I'm afaid you will be hard pressed to show me an example supporting your claim.
DMilbury 4 months ago
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@DMilbury
"Pure inference doesn't cut the mustard."
Except for the fact that we are able to actually observe it, of course.
"Speciation does not follow from what DNA does in bioligoical inheritance"
Really? Then please provide a better explanation for why speciation occurs.
MomoTheBellyDancer 4 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer sorry you have no idea what evolution is you think its like pokemon one organism magically changes to another but no this isnt how it works. organisms adapt to their surrounding different organisms live in different surroundings and they adapt differently. just like africans adapted more melanin to survive heat and caucasians have lesser melanin pigment to survive cold. the DNA mutates and when it does the offspring also has the same characteristics.
Warxyph 3 months ago
@Warxyph "you have no idea what evolution is you think its like pokemon one organism magically changes to another"
Where did you get that idea? Be precise.
MomoTheBellyDancer 3 months ago
Genes are evidence and fact, religion has no facts and was first based on fear not even hope and has its evelution of deception .
We are discovering the truth with scientific facts not myths and we need to queston anything that trys to control the way we think.
john5o 5 months ago
@john5o Well, religion can't have facts for their claim, no matter how hard they tried lol. They're claims are supernatural, incapable of being supported by evidence by definition.
HybridD91 5 months ago
Hi, write "logical evidences for Islam" and watch it
shncsr 5 months ago
النظرية حقيقة
MrOooMooo 6 months ago
@MrOooMooo
You don't need truth if you are going to follow the dogma of your religion...
odinata 5 months ago
@odinata
I am not a Muslim, Are all Arabs Muslims
??
MrOooMooo 5 months ago
@MrOooMooo
Did I mention your religion?
odinata 5 months ago
@odinata
Perhaps a line translation
Because I use Google Translation
MrOooMooo 5 months ago
Once Upon a Time, a one-celled organism was doing the backstroke in its puddle of nutrient-rich slime, and it realized that it was bored. Just to break the monotony, it decided to accidentally evolve into a creature with gender - and set about spending the next few million years accidentally becoming a male. All the while hoping that a similar blob of ooze was busy accidentally evolving into a female, otherwise, what was the point? And, with luck she'd live on the same side of Mother Earth...
fireman53406 6 months ago
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@fireman53406
Why should i believe in your religious creationism, if you can't explain AB resistance or Plant speciation without using evolution theory?
transtlantic 6 months ago
@fireman53406 Why don't you try to write an intelligent and well argumented disproof of what is said on the video ?
Oh yeah, I knowwhy, it's because you can't.
Rueyful 6 months ago
@fireman53406
You don't do science, do you?
odinata 6 months ago
You can fix the problem I just mentioned if you also showed that retroviruses had unique genetic signatures, and that THE SAME RETROVIRUS was inserted into the same locations on both chimp and human chromosomes. I suspect this is the case, but I do not know. Fixing that would make your case more "creationist-proof".
loujost 6 months ago
Great video! I noticed one loophole in your proof, though. The most scientific explanation for the shared locations of the insertions is of course evolution, but your argument and calculations assume that all sites on the genome are equally likely to be targeted for ERV insertions. If there were something special about certain sites on the genomes that made them more susceptible to insertions, then your calculations do not apply, and the insertions would not be evidence of common descent.
loujost 6 months ago
@loujost even if there were only 2 special sites at which ERVs can insert the probability of sharing the 90.000 ERVs we share would still be astronomically low ( 1/2^90k = 1/10^20k ).
ERVs do not have PERFECT site selection (IE they all go to that site) so the minimum possible is 2, which means that by the most conservative estimate evolution predicted the equivalent of 1000 lotteries.
DSkaz89 6 months ago
@DSkaz89
Organisms pass on heritable traits differentially.....
Evolution doesn't predict ANYTHING...
odinata 6 months ago
Because hominids have evolved into modern day humans or become extinct. Look I'd suggest you look at some of the videos on Youtube about evolution. There are some great ones out there that simply explain how evolution works. Before you make your mind up either way do a little research.
Hortos1 6 months ago
our dna is almost the same as mites too? did we evolve from mites? how about corn? eh nevermind honsetly im tired of talking about evolution..i think im gonna kill myself so i can find out the truth..ill come back and let you guys know
TheHillSideMafia 6 months ago
Why aren't there chimps turning into humans now...
UndercoverCracker 6 months ago
@UndercoverCracker Because humans didn't evolve from chimps. Chimps are on the end of their own evolutionary branch.
Hortos1 6 months ago
@Hortos1 Then why aren't apes still evolving or whatever.
UndercoverCracker 6 months ago
@UndercoverCracker Everything is constantly subject to the forces of evolution. You have to remember we're talking hundreds of thousands of years if not millions for this to happen. It won't happen overnight.
Hortos1 6 months ago
@Hortos1 Yes but there would still be subhuman type creatures around I would think.
UndercoverCracker 6 months ago
@UndercoverCracker
What are you?
Stupid?
odinata 6 months ago
@odinata Are you? Wait no I shouldn't ask. No need to!
UndercoverCracker 6 months ago
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@UndercoverCracker
"Why aren't there chimps turning into humans now..."
Yeah. Uh huh.
Idiot.
odinata 6 months ago
Alll these "proofs" say nothing at all. Except that we are very similar to monkeys! (which does NOT prove that we have a common ancestor.) Also, evolution can easily be proved wrong. Scientists today can travel all over the world and study animals. And film them. (something Darwin could never do. Also, he had only seen a small part of the world.) It turns out animals change behaviour very quickly. If they have to! (depending on changes in their environment.)
ellandelachapelle 6 months ago
@ellandelachapelle Evolution is backed up by a number of different scientific fields. Whether you chose to believe this or not is irrelevant.
Hortos1 6 months ago
It goes something like this. Boys, we have to figure out how the universe came to be. Oh, and you cant say that a Supreme being made it all. Now get to work. Remember, whatever you come up with cant be absolutely proven or disproven so just come up with something and agree on it.
j919or 7 months ago
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Evolution-believers are unlikely to be aware of this quote by Charles Darwin himself:
"As by this theory (evolution), innumerable transitional forms must have existed. Why do we not find them imbedded in the crust of the earth? Why is all nature not in confusion instead of being as we see them, well-defined species? Geological research does not yield the infinitely many fine gradations between past and present species required by the theory" -- Charles Darwin
Getting queasy yet?
tpstrat14 7 months ago
Sweet comedy!
dorfus71 8 months ago
@dorfus71 Ah! So it's true then. Ignorance truly IS bliss. Or in your case amusing.
Hortos1 8 months ago
" God is real and He will judge you one day."
Such kind and loving Christian words.
chrisofnottingham 8 months ago
@chrisofnottingham It's quoting Jesus so yeah, I guess it is a loving Christian thing to say. You will be judged, and that's a fact. And so will I and so will every other human who has ever lived. God loves, but not unconditionally. He wants us to love Him back, and if we refuse to do so there is no place for us in Heaven. Jesus made this very clear, so don't quote me out of context.
GirliqueDownUnder 8 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder It is interesting that you don't think karma will judge me. Lord Sri Krishna and even Gautama Buddha were fairly clear about this. Your Christian God is a bit of a thug compared the their real source of existence.
chrisofnottingham 8 months ago
@chrisofnottingham Karma has nothing to do with it - there is no mention of karma in the bible. God is a loving God, who expects love in return. His enormous love for us was shown in the enormous sacrifice His son, Jesus, made for each and every one of us. But we live in a fallen world and our sin separates us from God. It is only through the redemption provided by Jesus that we can be with God. Nothing to do with being a thug.
GirliqueDownUnder 8 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder " there is no mention of karma in the bible."
Exactly. All the scripture from the ancient Vedas, through the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita taken from the Mahabharata and also the works of the Buddha explain that unless unity with universal consciousness is achieved then the jiva is reborn in circumstances dictated by the system of karma. Failure to mention karma and rebirth is one way we know that the Bible is a modern corruption of the truth.
chrisofnottingham 8 months ago
Evolution is false, a lie perpetuated by satan in order to separate you from God. Sorry, but that's the truth and you won't get me changing my mind. I've seen something that no-one should have to see and take my word for it - God is real and He will judge you one day.
GirliqueDownUnder 8 months ago
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@GirliqueDownUnder
why would i believe in your religious ideology if you can't explain AB resistance or plant speciation without using evolution theory?
transtlantic 8 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder if you say evolution is false, then please can you respond to the evidence put forward in this video. Its incredible that with such clearly set out evidence can be dismissed so easilly, so please can you show how this evidence is false?
morepurplemonkeys 8 months ago
@morepurplemonkeys watch my video - "Dismantling Evidence for Evolution III" in the video responses bit.
jesse8857 8 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder "I've seen something that no-one should have to see..."
What was this amazing sight? Perhaps if you shared that with us we'd believe.
987viewer 8 months ago
@987viewer truly don't want to think about it, talk about it, remember it. But I wasn't on drugs (I was at work), was not hallucinating and hadn't even had a coffee that day. It wasn't something beautiful or angelic, it was the complete opposite and absolutely terrifying (In the middle of the office with everyone working). So my beliefs are based on that and I work backwards from what I saw that day. I know evil exists, therefore I believe in God, therefore I do not believe in evolution.
GirliqueDownUnder 8 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder
" I know evil exists, therefore I believe in God, therefore I do not believe in evolution."
Oddly the pope believes in evolution...and evil, and also God... so that statement made no sense...
What you mean is you feel a need to deny the obvious when it conflicts with your personal ideas about what properties this particular god has...
On another note...having read some of you comments, if I were you... I'd at least book one session with a qualified psychologist..
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
@MumblingMickey I am a qualified (registered) psychologist so go figure....
GirliqueDownUnder 7 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder That's right! If you don't have an answer for ERVs, watch my vid in the "video responses" under this vid. [by jessse8857]
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857 Adding comments has been disabled for this video.
That's one way to win a debate. :/
foxlake02 8 months ago
@foxlake02 that's because atheists constantly attack me, and so I'm quite sick of it.
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857 Sorry you're being "attacked". It's called debating your position. A person who makes a video response and disables comments isn't interested in an free exchange of ideas at all. He just wants to preach dogma in order to convince himself that it's true.
foxlake02 8 months ago
@foxlake02 If you want to respond to my video, post a response. But read the description before doing so.
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857 You mean they pull you up on inaccuracy... well I'm afraid thats just one of the dangers of insisting X is accurate but then not being able to support that position. Thats not attacking you, thats calling you out on BS!
This might have escaped your attention... but you'll notice a huge discrepancy between religious claimants and their unwillingness to allow comments... and vids like this...
maybe you could give an example of a vid on evolution with comments disabled? one perhaps?
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
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@MumblingMickey "maybe you could give an example of a vid on evolution with comments disabled? one perhaps?"
I don't have the time to sit around debating 40 atheists all at once on all my vids [that's what happened when I had comments enabled]
jesse8857 7 months ago
@jesse8857 No doubt I'm also attacking you now too.... but perhaps if you got a little more comfortable with the idea of 'EXCHANGE' of ideas you wouldn't see it that way.
Yeah its terrible the way the 'free ride' for religion just disappeared... in a puff of logic! From here on in its no respect when respect is earned, and that'll be a pretty long time if you can't even agree to allow comments on your position.
You'll need to get used to that scenario, it won't be getting any better for you.
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
@MumblingMickey do you have any scientific stuff at all to say? Or are you going to ramble on about comments disabled?
jesse8857 7 months ago
@GirliqueDownUnder
Your denial of observable scientific fact--and then your attempt to vilify science with your mythical Satan--that's what is evil.
YOU are the evil one.
Be gone, foul demon.
odinata 7 months ago
Thanks for this informative, yet easy-to-understand video.
The ERV matches in primates and the chromosomal fusion in humans essentially shoot down any claim that we don't have common ancestry. If creationists are right, the creator would have to go out of his/her way to make it seem as if we actually do have common ancestry, while still expecting us to believe otherwise. That's just not parsimonious.
NFSlugger13 8 months ago
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jesse8857 9 months ago
@jesse8857
"Einstein's formula - E=mc^2 - [...] Einstein was just saying the speed of light squared - 186,000 times 186,000 - that is a huge number. I don't think anybody knows, including Einstein, that that exact number is correct "
-Kent Hovind
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata And just where does he say that?
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857
Truth Radio 21 July 2006 @ 26:10 (Tape 1)
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata I would have to watch the video to see whether he really said it in that context, but if he did, then of course, he must be crazy! Get out a calculator! Because of this very reason, I think he didn't say it in that context...[?] Anywhere on youtube that I can watch the vid?
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857
I've provided the quote, and the source.
He said it.
He's an idiot.
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata yeah well I said I would have to see if he did really say it. I could never think someone would say that-especially Hovind.
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857
Especially Hovind?
His "doctoral thesis", which he received from a bible school headquartered in a mobile home, began
"Hello my name is Kent Hovind...."
The guy is a joke.
Read his doctoral thesis online.
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata Um so you say he's a joke based on the fact he says his name? What a joke!
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857
You've never read a doctoral thesis have you?
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata It doesn't matter if I have or haven't; because Hovind started with his name, then it means he is an idiot. Um no.
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857
I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were only 14 years old.
I guess your ignorance is excusable at your age....
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata I'm not 14 either - I'm a year older! Where did you get that from?
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857 Hopefully you'll learn in your junior year of high school that academic publications are written largely without referring to the self. "I," "Me," "My," "We," etc. are a no-no. This is such a fundamental rule for publication that it's almost... puerile that Hovind would violate this rule of thumb in the first sentence of what is supposed to be a doctoral dissertation.
evolutionisscience 8 months ago
@evolutionisscience yah I know that. However, saying that Hovind is a joke because of this is complete baloney. Clutching at straws I'd say.
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857
Everything about Kent Hovind is "complete baloney"
He's a televangelist.
And he's in jail...
odinata 8 months ago
@jesse8857 I wouldn't say that it precludes validity in any of his arguments, but it does reveal his complete ignorance for publication. It's such a fundamental flaw that it lends credence to the idea that he's not competent enough to contribute to any professional scientific field. When it is plain that a person is trying to display knowledge they don't have, people laugh. Kenneth Branagh did it. Chris Farley did it. Chaplin did it. At face value, I'd have to agree.
evolutionisscience 8 months ago
@jesse8857 One does not start a doctoral thesis with the words 'hello my name is...' thats stupid!
And no...his doctoral thesis itself explains why he's an idiot... read it... assuming you'd like a spot of comedy.
And notice that in a doctoral thesis generally one will fail miserably if you do not submit sources for your data. He submitted not single source, for anything.
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
If your faith in Young Earth Creationism hinges on Hovinds words, you pinned your idiotic opinion on the wrong donkey...
odinata 8 months ago
@odinata no it doesn't. How could you possibly "know"?
jesse8857 8 months ago
@jesse8857 NAh he said it alright... its even mentioned on Christian websites.... Hovind is not too well educated to be honest so you can't expect him to know too much... why he even mentioned relativity is frankly beyond me... probably cos he knows whatever little he knows... is ultimately more than his audience knows!
Forget about using the defense he doesn't need to pay tax cos the bible gives him a tax free card... he should have pleaded total zero comprehension of math in all forms!
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
Comment #1,
ERVs are part of ‘junk DNA’ which evolutionists assume has no function. If the ERVs have function, the argument for ERVs would evaporate. And they have function.
A.B. Conley; said in Bioinformatics 24, 2008: “Our analysis revealed that retroviral sequences in the human genome encode tens-of-thousands of active promoters; transcribed ERV sequences correspond to 1.16% of the human genome sequence and PET tags that capture transcripts initiated from ERVs cover 22.4% of the genome.”
jesse8857 9 months ago
@jesse8857
I have no idea where you get this idea that those studying genetics think ERV's are non functional. They never did!
AIG is an open forum btw...anyone can read it! or paste from it!
It might be more educational for you to look at other creationists do the same.Then look up the actual articles.
What would AIG know anyway? They don't even posses a single gene sequencer, not one of them is a geneticist... so seriously...they wouldn't know any more than you clearly don't!
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
@MumblingMickey "AIG is an open forum btw" yes, almost as much as conservapedia is, tough the chinese government allows more freedom of speech than them both combined.
DSkaz89 7 months ago
@DSkaz89 Which is a good reason not to take either as a good source... then again any book you buy in a store won't allow you to add comments either... unless you write all over it with a pen!
You'd just have to trust a source is accurate based on previous reputation and validity.
So I sorta won't be questioning Jack Kilby any time soon... since I'm using the fruits of his idea right now!
MumblingMickey 7 months ago
Loved it.
Democrit1to9Freud 9 months ago
Brilliant
Democrit1to9Freud 9 months ago
While I agree on the incredible rarity of the events you describe, you might want to work on your probabilities a bit.
childsca 9 months ago
my Yanma evolved into a Yanmega just as it said "Think about it."
NixFaerie 9 months ago
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"Random mutations consistently destroy information." P. 15; "Selection cannot rescue the genome." P. 69; "Mutation / selection cannot even create a single gene." P. 123; "All evidence points to human genetic degradation." P.143 - Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome by Cornell U. Genetics Professor John Sanford. He holds 25 genetic patents and is the inventor of the gene gun. He is truly an expert on the subject of mutations and natural selection. Evolution is a fairy tale for adults.
achilles197474 9 months ago
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"Random mutations consistently destroy information." P. 15; "Selection cannot rescue the genome." P. 69; "Mutation / selection cannot even create a single gene." P. 123; "All evidence points to human genetic degradation." P.143 - Genetic Entropy & The Mystery of the Genome by Cornell U. Genetics Professor John Sanford. He holds 25 genetic patents and is the inventor of the gene gun. He is truly an expert on the subject of mutations and natural selection. Evolution is a fairy tale for adults.
achilles197474 9 months ago
If the scientists do not exist, guess what? All the so-called spirituous leaders are still dying from diseases. Shut your fucking mouths and think before you talk, religious trollers.
hck112 9 months ago
@MrDeclandeadly I know right. I agree. I never said I like kent hovind or am a creationist.
DjZephy 9 months ago
@DjZephy sorry, i read your comment wrong, one little comma can make all the difference.
MrDeclandeadly 9 months ago
578 sub humans are not contributing to the human species... I say we euthanize them...
Ph7uX 10 months ago
@Ph7uX Agreed.
eBiology 9 months ago
@Ph7uX Yes you could become like the other militant Athiests Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung and do some real good for the world. Or you could act like you believe in Athiesm which says that eventually the Sun will supernova, you will die before that and unaware of it all any way, and it will all not matter one bit because all any living thing is, is jut a bio machine. Life will be gone soon enough and in the end none of it will have mattered. But yes, I think Hitler would agree with you!
songwriterdad 9 months ago
@songwriterdad scienceblogs . com /pharyngula /2006 /08/ list_ of _ hitler_ quotes _ he _ was_ q.php
You also might want to look up something called Godwins Law
MrDeclandeadly 9 months ago
@MrDeclandeadly No Hitler fully was commited to saving the world by killing as many of those nasty people as possible. though it is not known if he was an Atheist or not, he certainly held many of the core values that makes Atheism such a wonderful phylosophy today.
songwriterdad 9 months ago
@songwriterdad But if you read his quotes, it is obvious he is a christian. But once again Godwins Law...
New species have arisen in historical times. For example: A new species of mosquito, isolated in London's Underground, has speciated from Culex pipiens (Byrne and Nichols 1999; Nuttall 1998) Helacyton gartleri is the HeLa cell culture, which evolved from a human cervical carcinoma in 1951. The culture grows indefinitely and has become widespread (Van Valen and Maiorana 1991)
MrDeclandeadly 9 months ago
@MrDeclandeadly Hitler was what ever was expedient at the time.
Do you hear what you are saying here? A mosqito evolved into a what...a mosquito? Well if I had known a mosquito evolved into a new species of mosquito I would have gone ahead and accepted evolution years ago.
And Hela cells are still Hela cell, did not evolve into anything
songwriterdad 9 months ago
@songwriterdad Do you understand what a species actually is? I think you might want to read up on what speciation actually is. Each of these new species cannot breed with the species that they evolved from which is a dictionary defined species. By the way not believing in god is a religion as much as not liking football is a sport....
MrDeclandeadly 9 months ago
@MrDeclandeadly Well I know the definition of species has been changed in order to justify evolutionist hopes to justify their theory. Here is a question for you. How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg?
Did you say five? Calling the tail a leg does not make it one. So saying a mosquito evolved into a new species of Mosquito really is about just remaming things like the tail of the dog. Isn't it?
songwriterdad 9 months ago