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  • the best Mr.Gouldd!

  • Wow

  • This guy is amazing ....

    What does he sell?

    Where can I see him live ?

    What seminar company is he with?

    Why isn't him on regular TV like others?

    This guy made me cry, I want to do what he does.... Simply amazing motivational speaker....

  • So...Anyone ever read up on Rich Von?

  • @samueljh3,

    >> Yes, Mike....I did pull out my own wallet and made a conscious decision. I never said that someone put a gun to my head to buy water filters.

    -- Oh and please stop saying that you "lost money" on seminar trainings too, cuz since you had no prior sales experience before, those trainings taught you HOW TO SELL, otherwise, both your basement AND your garage would be full TODAY -- TEN YEARS LATER.

  • @samueljh3,

    >> "Yes, ....I did pull out my own wallet and made a conscious decision. I never said that someone put a gun to my head to buy water filters."

    -- Cool. Now will you please take the "I own my own mistakes path" & stop announcing everywhere that you "LOST MONEY" in EQX. The fact is you still have products in your basement that you haven't sold. Mathematically speaking, as far as product purchases go, you cannot LOSE MONEY ON PRODUCTS if you sell your products.

  • @samueljh3,

    >> Bill Gouldd's deceptive practices

    -- Can you tell me SPECIFICALLY WHICH of his practices were deceptive?

    -- I read the entire rules & regulations & had them memorized so that I could recite on call. I went to trainings, even the Basic Building Blocks when Bill Gouldd was teaching them. He ALWAYS taught ethical behavior, He even instructed thousands to STOP TRYING to get people to buy in a $5K & instead use the $500 credit plans.

    -- What deception, SPECIFICALLY?

  • @samueljh3 ,

    >> He chose not to?!!

    -- Yep. The FTC wanted BG to stay in business, just under a different business plan. Something other than Network Marketing. BG chose differently. How do I know? I read and listed to more than anyone on the Internet.

  • @KillJesus,

    -- People are still talking about it over a decade later cuz those who behaved foolishly are still making payments on their credit cards that THEY THEMSELVES FINANCED. There are people all over the Internet who are posting comments about the happening, but a good part are taking the resposible role, as adults should, & saying, "I own my mistakes."

    -- Now why can't you be mature enough to say that too? I myself do.

  • @MikeSPx24bj9 If Bill Gouldd was an honest, ethical person who believed in the image he was selling he would have fronted the inventories and would have supported his salespeople with more than just video clips. He made his empire from his salespeople, not his product. Equinox could have been selling anything. As long as salespeople are throwing $5000 at Gouldd, he was going to be rich.

    Also, a $55,000 watch? No man of the people would be wearing a $55,000 watch.

  • @KillJesus,

    >> If Bill Gouldd WERE an honest, ethical person who believed in the image he was selling he would've fronted the inventories

    -- Fronted inventories? Q: If U were going to become an operator of a McDonald's franchise (currently, just the rights cost = $1 million) would U also expect them 2buy your building, equipment, supplies, & food too?

    -- A: They don't.

    -- Same with any franchise. U have an employee mentality. U've obviously never been in business 4yourself.

  • @KillJesus,

    >> As long as salespeople are throwing $5000 at

    -- To start a business (any business) for only $5000 is super cheap. He stated in one of HIS trainings that I attended that he broke the Network marketing record for first month sales and he did it by NOT sponsoring people who bought in a $5K. He sd he did with the majority of applications being $500 credit plans.

    -- Eat that.

  • @MikeSPx24bj9 I did sell all my filters. I had zero sales skills too when I started. I lost my money in all the upselling Bill Gouldd's organization does, ie. seminars, video trainings, books, audio trainings, etc.

  • @samueljh3,

    >> Anyone thinking of investing with him will lose their money.

    -- WRONG! Anyone who sits on their ASS & doesn't apply what he teaches will lose money. You only lose though if you give up.

    -- Simple plan: don't give up, don't quit.

  • @MikeSPx24bj9 Bill Gouldd was banned from several states by the FTC. He had to pay over $300 million in restitution. All you have to do is Google it Mike. "Don't give up, don't quit?", you say. I agree with that, but at some point you realize that you will be throwing some good, honest hard-working people under the bus working in Bill Gouldd's business. After getting burned by Bill, I got a $5000 lesson on how NOT to get scammed anymore. I got off pretty easy. Many others got worse

  • @samueljh3,

    -- Bill Gould was banned by one state = NV. Trek Alliance was banned in WI for selling water filters that didn't legally qualify for THAT state.

    -- Prior to EQX BG was in CA for $75K for some violation. Kevin Trudeau, however was jailed for credit card fraud in CA.

    -- I have read more legal documents about what happened to Bill Gouldd and EQX than EVERYONE combined on this board. I guarantee that.

  • @samueljh3,

    -- No one lost money in EQX. You pulled out your wallet as a conscious decision. No one "made you do it." Take some responsibility for your own choices. If you lost money it's cuz you were too lazy in trying to sell your product that are STILL in your garage.

    -- I kept selling my products even after they went out of business. In fact I bought a bunch more when they cleared them out and sold lots more.

  • @samueljh3,

    -- Bill Gould signed an agreement with the FTC not to do network marketing for 5 years. They sd he could keep the business open, under a different business pattern. He chose not to.

  • @samueljh3,

    >> (all pyramids have to collapse eventually),

    -- So you're saying that all companies in the world HAVE to collapse? Every business, every form of gov't, every school system is set up pyramid in design & structure.

    -- Nice comparison, dumb ass.

  • @MikeSPx24bj9 Yes, companies, governments are pyramids too. That's one of the things I was taught by Bill Gouldd. When I invited someone down to a presentation, if the prospect asked, "is this a pyramid?" I was told to say, "You mean a pyramid like IBM, AT$T, where you have a CEO that sits at the top and many people under him?"

    And yes, everything is a pyramid- the Roman Empire, Fiat currency, Social Security, global corporations are all pyramids that must collapse. It's the law of nature

  • Like him or not ...agree or disagree with him.....probably the best Trainer Ever in MLM More people and companies emulate the trainings he taught us more than any other. I to this day still use the information I learned on a daily basis to HELP others. Dont Judge just use what you can to help others Achieve their goals and dreams. NO matter how big or small we think they are it Their dreams and Goals are all that counts.

  • @dynastybuilder,

    >> probably the best Trainer Ever in MLM

    -- He was the most successfuly active distributor MLM ever saw or ever will see. His result speak for themself.

    >> I to this day still use the information I learned on a daily basis

    -- Me tooooo!

  • the greatest con artist of all time. the undisputed champion of getting you emotional so he can steal your money and build his dreams. read rob stylers spell bound book

    and you will see what Bill Gouldd is really all about. EQUINOX is DEAD lets hope it stays that WAY!!!!

  • @stevebazile,

    >> so he can steal your money and build his dreams.

    -- Stealing means he reached in your wallet. No one made you reach in your wallet. If you were emotionally moved to do so then, you have no one to blame but yourself. You pulled out YOUR credit card willingly. No one MADE you do it!

  • What a great co. Equinox was. WAY AHEAD of its time! Thanks Mr. Gouldd for ALL that you did. This sure brought back some memories. I was at THIS EVENT in Las Vegas for the Kickoff.

  • I was there too!! So, what do you do now? Are you still involved in network marketing? or was Equinox was your last?

  • kyanihawaii - i am very interested in buying some videos from you! pls let me know what you have and lets make a deal!

  • Hello, please email me your contact information. I have all the video's, audio's that is available.

  • @KyaniHawaii,

    -- I am interested in seeing what audio/video you have that I don't have. Can you PM me with a list?

  • @ppereda23 can you please write to me at pete.p3distributors@yahoo.com

  • Bill Gouldd is amazing. I wish I could buy some of his trainings.

  • If you are interested, I have most of his CD's and Video's available today. Let me know.

  • hi, can you put some more bill gouldd on. Also can you make the volume louder.

  • Thanks for posting this. I was in Equinox, and I learned so much from Bill Gouldd. He truly is a master.

  • Used to be with Equinox but with Kyani now.  I love Bill Gouldd's trainings.

  • Are you on Equinox or Kyani?

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