So, just to be clear...the gas would inundate the lower levels first, because it has to begin at ground level and contaminate clean air from the bottom up.
RonaldTheHammer: "Nyiszli describes Zyklon as behaving like heavier than air"
Miklós Nyiszli: "The bodies were not lying here and there throughout the room, but piled in a mass to the ceiling. The reason for this was that the gas first inundated the lower layers and rose but slowly toward the ceiling."
RonaldTheHammer: "Nyiszli describes Zyklon as behaving like heavier than air"
Miklós Nyiszli: "The bodies were not lying here and there throughout the room, but piled in a mass to the ceiling. The reason for this was that the gas first inundated the lower layers and rose but slowly toward the ceiling."
WELL ZYKLON B WAS USED TO DE LICE CLOTHES AND CAPMS ALSO THEY GASSED CLOTHES TO DE LICE AND STOP THE SPREAD OF TYPHUS..CAN U BRING YOURSELF TO AT LEAST BEGEIN TO RESEARCH AND STOP BEING SPOON FED "TRUTH"..U HAVE A BRAIN JUST BEGEIN TO LEARN TO THINK FOR YOURSELF AND CURE THE DESEASE OF HISTERIA..
timpovikings are you here as well?How nice.Let me remind you that I'm still waiting for the answers:WHAT IT WAS ZYKLON B AND HOW IT WORKED.And one more for you: what do you know about the irreversible reaction between hydrogen cyanide and metal particles in common brick?
If you want to talk about Zyklon or Prussian Blue and can support your opinions with the science that Germar Rudolf strangley couldn't when he tried to create PB staining in lab conditions, make your statement and then back it up.
You have this odd notion that debate is you interrogating me and you asking the questions YOU need so you can provide only the answers YOU want to give.
@timpovikings Speaking of questions and answers Tim-Tim, there's still the question of the FACT that the holocaust's Star Witness Miklos Nyiszli's account is full of shit and we have yet to get any sort of answer from you on the matter.
" there's still the question of the FACT that the holocaust's Star Witness Miklos Nyiszli's account is full of shit and we have yet to get any sort of answer from you on the matter."
How long do I have to rearrange these into English, mate?
This war was well documented with film and photo, don't tell me these things didn't happen! It did, I even viewed photo's that a old man I knew that was there in WW2 took with his own camera. He said he took them because he was afraid that people would not believe what he saw. I saw what he saw through those photo's. Don't ever tell me it didn't happen!!!!
@pjgumby Does he have photos that prove that mass gassings occured?
Didn't think so...
Now, don't even come close to considering how odd this is, or how much it warrants further investigation, just keep your head up your ass like the rest of the clowns here... you'll get along fine...
@timpovikings "I hate it when celebrities forget their roots, don't you?"
Did you forget to address the issue of Nyiszli's obvious false testimony?
No, you just avoid it like the plague, since neither of you imbecilic clowns can actually admit that your precious eyewitness testimony could be flawed.
Now avoid it again, since this all you CAN do anyway...
"The bodies were not lying here and there throughout the room, but piled in a mass to the ceiling. The reason for this was that the gas first inundated the lower layers of air and rose but slowly towards the ceiling. This forced the victims to trample one another in a frantic effort to escape the gas."
At no point do I nor Nyiszli state that victims were climbing into any gas. They were climbing over bodies to escape its slow advance.
I have a vague memory of terms like, particle inertia and Brownian motion.
Dim is presenting the gas going straight up and forming layers like coloured jelly in a trifle. But I've already asked him how he can speculate on the behaviour of people and gas in a structure he says didn't exist, during events which never occurred, and he got angry.
He has also been reminded that he began with the opposite claim; that it was heavier than air.
Jimbo gets angry a lot. Must be frustration...or an attempt to distract people from the fact that he has no actual FACTS about the way gases actually work in air.
He also seems to think that LTA gas in a closed space will always share the volume of space by occupyinig the upper half of that volume while all the air decides to physically move downwards! Possibly the most ridiculous aspect of his thesis, as both are mixing from the outset.
The gas is vapourising from ground level, but in all directions on a gently ramping ascent.
He thinks the gas particles simply behave like helium filled party balloons!!!
@timpovikings "He also seems to think that LTA gas in a closed space will always share the volume of space by occupyinig the upper half of that volume while all the air decides to physically move downwards!"
Higher concentrations the higher you go...
Now please, back to your desperate scramblings and blather.... anything but actually admitting tp the FACT that Nyiszli is full of shit.
I would also suggest that the frenzied movement of panicking people would ensure that no 'stratification' would ever even begin.
His theory on awareness is also fucked up and wrong. If something is rapidly closing down your ability to breathe, panic will just cause you to fight against the throng in any direction, but always towards what you think might be space and clean air.
"panic will just cause you to fight against the throng in any direction, but always towards what you think might be space and clean air."
Quite correct, and seeing how the gas is invisible the most logical reaction would be to get away as far from the source as possible even if it means climbing over others to do so. I would guess that the piles of bodies would be higher the further you got from the Zyklon B pellets.
@deconneurnot Oh, and decowardlots... as it appears that you've actually read Nyiszli's bullshit book now, tell us... did you notice anything else in there that kinba gives away the fact that he is full of shit?
Yes, your pure speculation as to how victims may/may not 'panic' is a 'rule of gas expansion'...
Tell us loser, is there ANY straw, no matter HOW ridiculous and pathetic that you WON'T cling to in a desperate attempt to substansiate Nyiszli's bullshit claims?
@deconneurnot The real stunner here is the fact that decowardlots STILL clings to his idiotic and pointless 'you need someone to agree with the fact that lighter than air gases would result in higher concentrations the higher you go before the fact is 'valid'' stupidity.
Again shit-for-brains, the FACT remains that Nyiszli's testimony is bullshit.
Unless... you wish to SIDE with his account?
I mean, why not? It's not like flying in the face of facts is anything new to a moron like you.
is that you steadfastly refuse (cos you can't find any) to post evidence that HCN in the guise of Zyklon B acts in the manner you subscribe to; namely that it goes straight up and stratifies at the ceiling.
Now Jimbo...we have a saying here in the UK..."put up or shut up"...so what's it going to be big boy?
@deconneurnot "...the guise of Zyklon B acts in the manner you subscribe to..."
It DOES form in higher concentrations the higher you go, since it IS lighter than air. This goes right against what Nyiszli claims in his vaunted 'eyewitness testimony'.
Care to actually admit to this?
Care to 'put up or shut up'?
Or shall we expect nothing but more typical hypocritical avoidance and sidetepping on the matter?
There is no valid photographic proof of mass gas chambers while there IS such proof of other atrocities, cameras WERE inside the camps at the time (A fact denied by decowardlots but of course, he refuses to actually stand by this...) and eyewitness testimony is unreliable and therefore not proof.
All facts... all avoided by the Clown Twins... all the time.... 24/7.
@deconneurnot "That discounts 99% of the world's history then doesn't it."
Once again, decowardlots tries to put words in my mouth as this is the very best his pitiful, myopic mindset can actually conjure up in a very desperate attempt to deflect from the actual and pertinent point that eyewitness testimony, on which your entire position is built upon, is NOT 'proof'.
Nyiszli gave false testimony, a fact which you refuse to admit to, because you're a cowardly myopic idiot.
" Once again, decowardlots tries to put words in my mouth "
ZZZzzzzzz.....no he doesn't.
You don't accept ANY eyewitness testimony. History in general relies mainly on eyewitness testimony. We are very lucky if there is physical evidence as well, but it is not always necessary to prove an event occurred....except, so it seems if it relates to the Holocaust.
So how do we know the Battle of Trafalga took place? How do we know Hannibal crossed the Alps?
@deconneurnot "You don't accept ANY eyewitness testimony."
Once again, decowardlots tries to put words in my mouth ; I never made this claim.
Eyewitness testimony can be true, but it cannot be used as definitive proof.
As PROVEN by the FACT that your Star Witness Nyiszli's testimony has been exposed as bullshit (and to which you absolutely refuse to admit to, as usual) such testimony alone cannot determine the validity of the premise.
@deconneurnot "You disproving the whole of history again big boy?"
As usual, decowardlots reverts to his idiotic word-in-mouth routine since he so stupid and useless...
The fact that eyewitness testimony cannot be used as definitive proof somehow means I am dismissing all of history, huh? heh... you're truly pathetic.
"You can't provide ANY evidence to prove it is."
Already did- Nyiszli claims to have escaped the camp and traveled to the Birkenau KZ. That is irrefutable B.S.
Fuckhead, you JUST whined that I didn't provide "ANY evidence to prove" Nyiszli's trstimony was bullshit, and now, now that it'as been ground into your helpless idiotic face, you naturally try to change subject since as we all know, you are actually this goddamn spineless and pathetic.
now prove it again decowardlots; wiping the walls with your blood is pure entertainment.
"cameras WERE inside the camps at the time (A fact denied by decowardlots but of course, he refuses to actually stand by this...)"
I never said cameras were NOT inside the camps, Jimbo. After all, we have some cute little piccies of those nice Nazis at Auschwitz partying and having a good time. It's just that there don't seem to be any piccies taken of masses of dead bodies piled high in Ausch and the Ar camps taken by the Nazis themselves.
"You said that the only pictures of dead bodies etc... were taken only by allies after the camps were liberated."
I think it was "piles of dead bodies" Jimbo,,,not simply individual dead bodies. The sorts of things the allies photographed at places like Belsen. Whilst you are at it, you can show us photos of Cambodians being murdered as well as those murders being carried out by the Soviets.
@deconneurnot "I think it was "piles of dead bodies" Jimbo,,,not simply individual dead bodies. "
I think you said ONLY allies took photos, a futile attempt to dismiss the FACT that cameras WERE inside the camps and yet, not a single photo to prove the existence of mass homocidal gas chambers, you know, my entire point from the beginning.
Now, the CHALLENGE?
Care to actuall stand behind your words?
No?
How about acknowledging the fact that cameras were there, yet no proof?
Naughty naughty Jimbo. I didn't say that big boy. I said the only photos taken of masses of dead bodies in the camps were taken by the Allies when the camps were liberated.
I never said there were no cameras in the camps.
Its just that the Germans never took piccies of the extermination process in the camps because they were not allowed to.
"OK retard, once again: the gas rises and accumulates in stronger concentrations the higher up you go."
This is in the chambers in which no collected mass of captive humans was ever subjected to cyanide gassing, right?
So therefore the only thing you can use as a demonstration or comparison to what never happened..... is with the emphatically stated bahaviour of cyanide gas in a structure during an event you now suggest DID happen.
Sick,sick people who fall for this vile propganda. Where were the millioms of Jews who lived in E Europe,after the war? Where are their millions of descendents? To all fair minded people,don't believe this nonsense,tests have shown the chemical residue agents still in the camps use to kill millions! The person who says they were not found has long been discredited. Don't fall for revisionist and Nazi propaganda,they are the same thing!.
@bess1953" tests have shown the chemical residue agents still in the camps use to kill millions!"
15 samples from delousing chambers had nearly 5,000 PPM of residual wall cyanide, 16 from the alleged homicidal gas chamber averaged 3PPM, while the 11 from the "controls" averaged nearly 2 PPM.
Based on the 27 measured samples of wall iron cyanide, there was no significant difference between the samples from the alleged homicidal chambers and from the control samples.
@bess1953 "To all fair minded people,don't believe this nonsense,tests have shown the chemical residue agents still in the camps use to kill millions!"
Zyklon was designed as a delousing agent. To find residue doesn't prove that millions were murdered but rather that you are an idiot.
FYI: ~Jews are hateful liars; actual Holocaust was of valiant anti-Commie Germans! Doors of alleged Gas/Shower-rooms have easily broken glass-windows! Even guesstimates of some 2-3 hundred-thou. Jews may have perished in St.Hitler's safe-Encampments, owing to typhus caused by horrid jewZionist directed USA & UK carpet-bombing of German-territory, -are apparently generous owing to scrupulously kept records of Int'al./RedCross, --indicating there were actually more Jews after WW2 than before.!!!
In which asyllum they miss the idiot that maded this propagandavideo? I think this creep is a member of a Security Office searching for Neo nazis who like this type of nonsence!
WHY can't L'il Timmy Fuckbrains here actually address a pertinent issue?
Oh yeah, now I remember: because's stupid, doesn't have a leg to stand, he's stupid, completely incompetent, a bumbling moron and let's never forget the fact... that he is... and always will be...
a PROVEN COWARD!
And that just burrrrrnnnns your little Down Syndrome face, doesn't Tim-Tim?
The best book I've read about the Holocaust is by Martin Gilbert. It's called The Holocaust The Jewish Tragedy. It explains from Kristallnacht to the meeting at Wansee, the Einsatzgruppen and the ghettoes. The first gassings by carbon monoxide (this was first used in Germany to kill disabled people, considered a burden to the Reich) It's not an easy book to read, but I do recommend it. Holocaust deniers are on the wrong site, funny they watch the videos but don't understand them.
Go ahead and split all the hairs you wish as you try to explain away the absence of German and Polish Jewry in Europe and the more you try, the more you will confirm that in your Holocaust Denial, you carry out the very goals of the Nuremberg Laws, i.e. the Wiping Away of All Historical Evidence that Jews ever existed in Europe, while you absolutely prove your devotion to Anti-Semitism, even among FELLOW SEMITES, of Arab Origin.
The more you lie about this, the more truth you reveal!
@deconneurnot "Already done Jimbo...but you don't "believe" it."
And what WAS your 'explanation'? Oh yeah: that all pictures of the camps were taken by allies after the camps were liberated.
AGAIN:
"...and all taken by the ALLIES after the camps were liberated."
ALL of them, huh? Sooo, you'll have no problem agreeing to admit that you're a babbling moron if I produce even ONE photo not taken by allies, right?
"And what WAS your 'explanation'? Oh yeah: that all pictures of the camps were taken by allies after the camps were liberated."
Er, no...that was in relation to YOUR previous statement. You were stressing all those photos taken of piles of dead bodies in the camps. I just pointed out that they were NOT taken by the Germans, and they were not taken in Poland.
...but then you deniers, Jimbo, always had a problem with context didn't you.
"And so now, you resort to painfully obvious and cheap fabrication"
So please explain this quote of yours a week back:
"Photos of emaciated prisoners, piles of dead bodies, the overns...etc...etc... all taken from within the barbed wire... CAMERAS WERE THERE... but again, you cannot explain the lack of proof as per gas chambers."
@deconneurnot ""It appears the Nazis were quite strict about secrecy regarding the exterminations. Taking pics for the family album was a no no punishable by death."
The challenge still stands, Oh Proven COward...
But you just can't allow yourself to admit to the truth here?
Glad you, the fucking idiot, thinks so, but for the rest of us in the sane world, all you did was sidestep it again by resorting to weak and laughable atttempts at falsehood and word-in-mouth.
Again, you claimed taking pictures within the camp was a 'no-no' as an 'explanation for the lack of photographic proof as per gas chambers.
Now get back to cowering before the challenge to actually stand behind your words, it's all you got anyway...
@deconneurnot "Strict secrecy orders which we know existed are the reason why no piccies were taken."
AGAIN:
"...and all taken by the ALLIES after the camps were liberated."
ALL of them, huh? Sooo, you'll have no problem agreeing to admit that you're a babbling moron if I produce even ONE photo not taken by allies, right?
Riiiii-iiiii-iiiight?
Now avoid backing up your own bullshit.. heh
(Watch as decowardlot refuses to stand behind his words... again...)
"ALL of them, huh? Sooo, you'll have no problem agreeing to admit that you're a babbling moron if I produce even ONE photo not taken by allies, right?"
If you have pictures of any mass piles of bodies taken by the Germans in Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor or Belzec then post ahead. It would be interesting to see pictures of an event you claimed never happened.
@deconneurnot "..but I also believe you can't give an alternative. "
That's because there IS no reasonable explanation for the complete lack of photographic evidence as per mass homocidal gas chambers. My entire point from the start. And here is coward-boy, STILL not getting the picture?
"That's because there IS no reasonable explanation for the complete lack of photographic evidence as per mass homocidal gas chambers"
Already explained earlier Jimbo. Ignoring it, doesn't make you any more right.
Still, let me know when you get a photo of Hitler and Ava's bodies won't you after they had committed suicide. After all...such an important act would have been photographed don't you think?
"Since the gas WOULD accumulate from the top down "
I see chemistry was not your forte at school Jimbo. You need to look up "the diffusion of gases". HCN would have spread in all directions after the Zyklon B reacted with the air. Those nearest the Zyklon would have reacted almost immediately. Those behind would have fought to get out of the way. This explains the piles of bodies seen by the eyewitness.
Since it is lighter than air, for it to fill the room completely, it must first inundate the upper levels, then work its way down. I don't know how else to explain the obvious to such a savagely stupid person as you without bringing in sock puppets, but the fact remains that Nyiszli's claims cannot be true according to the laws of fucking physics.
"Since it is lighter than air, for it to fill the room completely, it must first inundate the upper levels, then work its way down."
Oh dear. That is not how the "laws of physics" work Jimbo. The movement of gases in an environment is dictated by the reaction of the gas molecules concerned (HCN) with the heavier air molecules. Gases "spread outward in EVERY DIRECTION to regions where they are in low concentration."
Pretty simple to understand, but not for you, no, you HAVE to run with the idiotic idea that somehow, lighter than air gas molecules WOULDN'T be forced upwards due to the heavier air molecules.
I mean, it's only math, the laws of physics and simple logic that you're trying to deny here, and all because you MUST try to keep the integrity of Nyiszli's testimony 'valid'.
Zyklon B releases HCN gas on contact with air. The air travels upwards in a straight line avoiding anyone standing to the sides. It then collects and "stratifies" at the ceiling, therefore all victims in the chamber would survive because the gas stays above them.
Excuse the Star Trek parody, but "its science Jim; but not as we know it!"
Zyklon B releases HCN on contact with the air. The gas then diffuses in ALL directions, as it is intended to do. Those victims nearest the source die first. Those behind panic and fight to survive by clambering over others to get away from the gas. The gas continues to spread, killing all those in its way. After a half hour or so, all in the enclosed room are dead from HCN poisoning.
@deconneurnot "Those victims nearest the source die first. "
Those inhaling the highest concentrations of gas would die first.
The gas is lighter than air.
People wouldn't be clamboring to get AT the ceiling where the gas accumulates.
Nyiszli is full of shit.
2+2=4, yet decowardlot just CAN'T face the facts, since his precious star witness is thus exposed as a fraud so here he is, trying to re-write the laws of physics.
One what? A physicist who agrees with the fucking laws of physics? Yes, I have to do that, because you refuse to face the fact that lighter than air gasses generally tend to rise since they are, believe it or not, lighter than fucking air.
Ironically, this ultra-lame sidestep is the very best tactic of avoiding the truth of the matter than an air-headed moron like you can ever even hope to achieve.
"The opinion is often expressed that, because gaseous hydrogencyanide is approximately 5% lighter than air, it must separate from air and rise. Hydrogen cyanide gas is, however, only slightly lighter than air and does not separate, because of the thermal movement of every gas particle."
and
"But to conclude from this that hydrogen cyanide vapors always rise, would be an incorrect conclusion."
Uhh, the same guy who said this?: "In North Carolina, this gas arises immediately beneaththe victim, so that the victim must be exposed, immediately after the beginning of the execution process, to a concentration which probablyexceeds 10% by volume for a short period, but then falls steadily as aresult of diffusion of the hydrogen cyanide throughout the chamber."
Shall we delve into his musings on eyewitness testimony?
@deconneurnot "You mean a small gas chamber and the rapid release of HCN completed with the help of a boost from sulphuric acid?"
I mean the revisionist's testimony, which you now hold aloft like The Golden Egg, states that the gas rises and fills the room, which totally destroys Nyiszli's claims.
But you can't ever face that, huh decowardlots?
Not your precious Star Witness Testimony that your entire house of cards rests on, huh?
The fact that slow moving HCN spreading outwards from a source causes panic amongst victims and forces them to fight and clamber over each other in order to get away from the deadly effects of the gas before eventually dying themselves as the gas fills the room?
You mean those claims?
Or do you mean your HCN gas that rises in an upward direction only, to bounce off the roof before killing a single person?
" In North Carolina, this gas arises immediately beneaththe victim, so that the victim must be exposed, immediately after the beginning of the execution process"
So actually the prisoner is virtually sitting on top of the source whilst confined in a tiny metal chamber. Not much place the gas can travel to then is there. Still...according to you the prisoner only dies after the gas has bounced off the ceiling!
@deconneurnot "Still...according to you the prisoner only dies after the gas has bounced off the ceiling!"
Either you are pathological as far as indulging in idiotic word-in-mouth behavior, or you are so incredibly fucking stupid, that this is the very best your puny loser mind can conjure up.
Either way, what I'm saying, for the millionth time, is that the gas accumulates in higher concentrations the higher you go, victims wouldn't scramble to get at it, Nyszli is full of shit.
@timpovikings "I can't recall a denier being so sure about how gassing occurred in gas chambers he says never existed!"
That's because you are too myopic and stupid to realize that the physical properties of lighter than air gas proves how a gassing WOULD have occured and therefore Nyiszli's entire account of this is bullshit.
Now reply, and fail to get it again, since you're truly this stupid and cowardly that you can't admit to irrefutable fact.
And how are you theorising on the bahaviour of people subjected to gassing, in a structure in which cyanide was never released for the purpose of mass murder?
You seem to have locked yourself into a space suit - after having taken a very potent laxative, mate. ;-)
@timpovikings "And how are you theorising on the bahaviour of people subjected to gassing, in a structure in which cyanide was never released for the purpose of mass murder?"
Typical Little Timmy Fuckbrains 'reasoning'... since I doubt that mass gas chambers were used to kill millions, the laws of physics suddenly do not apply.
Keep swinging, keep missing... it's all you can do, since you're a fucking idiot.
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@JimTheHammerXCII
So, just to be clear...the gas would inundate the lower levels first, because it has to begin at ground level and contaminate clean air from the bottom up.
Thanks for that.
We got there in the end.
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@JimTheHammerXCII
"It wouldn't flood the loser levels forst L'il Tim-Tinm"
Have you considered operating a keyboard while sober, mate? LOL!
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@timpovikings Awwww... L'il Timmy Fuckbrains sure is busy avoiding the relevant issues again, huh?
There's a good little loser...
I win, again.
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The fact that this video is flagged should be a clear sign that the Jew doesn't want you to see this.
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RonaldTheHammer: "Nyiszli describes Zyklon as behaving like heavier than air"
Miklós Nyiszli: "The bodies were not lying here and there throughout the room, but piled in a mass to the ceiling. The reason for this was that the gas first inundated the lower layers and rose but slowly toward the ceiling."
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RonaldTheHammer: "Nyiszli describes Zyklon as behaving like heavier than air"
Miklós Nyiszli: "The bodies were not lying here and there throughout the room, but piled in a mass to the ceiling. The reason for this was that the gas first inundated the lower layers and rose but slowly toward the ceiling."
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WELL ZYKLON B WAS USED TO DE LICE CLOTHES AND CAPMS ALSO THEY GASSED CLOTHES TO DE LICE AND STOP THE SPREAD OF TYPHUS..CAN U BRING YOURSELF TO AT LEAST BEGEIN TO RESEARCH AND STOP BEING SPOON FED "TRUTH"..U HAVE A BRAIN JUST BEGEIN TO LEARN TO THINK FOR YOURSELF AND CURE THE DESEASE OF HISTERIA..
sheyon1000 3 weeks ago
holohoax
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timpovikings 3 weeks ago
timpovikings are you here as well?How nice.Let me remind you that I'm still waiting for the answers:WHAT IT WAS ZYKLON B AND HOW IT WORKED.And one more for you: what do you know about the irreversible reaction between hydrogen cyanide and metal particles in common brick?
Jerzy Ulicki-Rek
Bieszczady73 3 weeks ago
@Bieszczady73
I can see you need the crayons.
If you want to talk about Zyklon or Prussian Blue and can support your opinions with the science that Germar Rudolf strangley couldn't when he tried to create PB staining in lab conditions, make your statement and then back it up.
You have this odd notion that debate is you interrogating me and you asking the questions YOU need so you can provide only the answers YOU want to give.
Bright as a button, aren't you mate? ROFL!
timpovikings 3 weeks ago
@timpovikings Speaking of questions and answers Tim-Tim, there's still the question of the FACT that the holocaust's Star Witness Miklos Nyiszli's account is full of shit and we have yet to get any sort of answer from you on the matter.
I wonnnnderrrr why?
hahahahaha
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@timpovikings "If I see Hamburglar, I'll give you a heads-up."
Obviously, the Mindburglar has already been to see you.
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" there's still the question of the FACT that the holocaust's Star Witness Miklos Nyiszli's account is full of shit and we have yet to get any sort of answer from you on the matter."
How long do I have to rearrange these into English, mate?
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timpovikings 3 weeks ago
I am amazed this video was added 3 years ago, still people are debating it.
I have planned to visit this tourist destination, repeat, tourist destination.
Not that I believe anything people tell me, I want to see with my own eyes, though I know really there is nothing much to see.
In my youth, in the 70's, I studied in Germany and have not visited it or Dachau.
Sally1Tony 4 weeks ago
Funny how the German Nazi Government during the Holocaust documented these SS commanders as working at these areas.
And then after the war at the Nuremburg trials they confirmed what was on those Nazi Documents.
NickyAmerica 1 month ago
I love this videos, it makes me laugh when they come and pretend there was no genocide.
Very easy, put some pictures of empty awshwitz, put some text on it (without any official document) pay some antisemetic narrator. good job clown !
sjmunoz 1 month ago
GOD DAMN JEWS
1337Subber 1 month ago
ANTI-SEMITE!!!!!
TheSteeletube 1 month ago
@KaffirKatastrophe
"Well, we all know that these zionist bastards control the media."
Care to give us some specifics that go beyond a list of names?
deconneurnot 1 month ago
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@deconneurnot "Care to give us some specifics that go beyond a list of names? "
Uhhh, how about Izzy Aspers and his directive to his newspapers to never report Israel in a negative POV, no matter the facts?
Oh, and while you avoid this as well... the CHALLENGE?
EVEN gonna actually stand by your words?
no?
That's Mr. Credibility for ya!
HAHAHAHAHHAH!!!
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
This war was well documented with film and photo, don't tell me these things didn't happen! It did, I even viewed photo's that a old man I knew that was there in WW2 took with his own camera. He said he took them because he was afraid that people would not believe what he saw. I saw what he saw through those photo's. Don't ever tell me it didn't happen!!!!
pjgumby 1 month ago
@pjgumby Does he have photos that prove that mass gassings occured?
Didn't think so...
Now, don't even come close to considering how odd this is, or how much it warrants further investigation, just keep your head up your ass like the rest of the clowns here... you'll get along fine...
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
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@JimTheHammerXCII
So, no response from Wonka then?
I hate it when celebrities forget their roots, don't you?
timpovikings 1 month ago
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@timpovikings "I hate it when celebrities forget their roots, don't you?"
Did you forget to address the issue of Nyiszli's obvious false testimony?
No, you just avoid it like the plague, since neither of you imbecilic clowns can actually admit that your precious eyewitness testimony could be flawed.
Now avoid it again, since this all you CAN do anyway...
I win, again...
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
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Fucken Untermensch
YUSKHAN 1 month ago
Here is what Nyiszli actually wrote in his book:
"The bodies were not lying here and there throughout the room, but piled in a mass to the ceiling. The reason for this was that the gas first inundated the lower layers of air and rose but slowly towards the ceiling. This forced the victims to trample one another in a frantic effort to escape the gas."
At no point do I nor Nyiszli state that victims were climbing into any gas. They were climbing over bodies to escape its slow advance.
QED
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot
!?
I have a vague memory of terms like, particle inertia and Brownian motion.
Dim is presenting the gas going straight up and forming layers like coloured jelly in a trifle. But I've already asked him how he can speculate on the behaviour of people and gas in a structure he says didn't exist, during events which never occurred, and he got angry.
He has also been reminded that he began with the opposite claim; that it was heavier than air.
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings
" and he got angry"
Jimbo gets angry a lot. Must be frustration...or an attempt to distract people from the fact that he has no actual FACTS about the way gases actually work in air.
If you get my drift.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "...or an attempt to distract people from the fact that he has no actual FACTS about the way gases actually work in air."
Unlike the Vaunted Miklos Nyiszli, Star Witness of the mass gassings, huh decowardlots?
Just CAN'T face the truth huh?
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!
You clowns are hilarious...
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@timpovikings "I have a vague memory of terms like, particle inertia and Brownian motion."
L'il Timmy, I doubt you have a recollection of what kind of breakfast the nurse spoon-fed you for breakfast this morning.
"He has also been reminded that he began with the opposite claim; that it was heavier than air."
Tim-Tim has been reminded repeatedly that this is exactly what Nyiszli describes, yet as usual, fuck-all-for-fuckbrains here can't face the facts...
BAU
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
Oh.....happy new account.
timpovikings 1 month ago
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@timpovikings "Oh.....happy new account."
Thanks L'il Timmy Fuckbrains.
Way to stay on the pertinent subject matter as always...
heh
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@deconneurnot
He also seems to think that LTA gas in a closed space will always share the volume of space by occupyinig the upper half of that volume while all the air decides to physically move downwards! Possibly the most ridiculous aspect of his thesis, as both are mixing from the outset.
The gas is vapourising from ground level, but in all directions on a gently ramping ascent.
He thinks the gas particles simply behave like helium filled party balloons!!!
timpovikings 1 month ago
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@timpovikings
"He thinks the gas particles simply behave like helium filled party balloons!!!"
Thats what I keep telling him.
But he won't have it. After all...Jimbo knows the FACTS!
Well...so he keeps shouting at us.
LOL
deconneurnot 1 month ago
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@timpovikings "He also seems to think that LTA gas in a closed space will always share the volume of space by occupyinig the upper half of that volume while all the air decides to physically move downwards!"
Higher concentrations the higher you go...
Now please, back to your desperate scramblings and blather.... anything but actually admitting tp the FACT that Nyiszli is full of shit.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
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@deconneurnot "At no point do I nor Nyiszli state that victims were climbing into any gas."
No shit-for-brains, what he DID claim was that the gas inundated the LOWER LAYERS of air and then rose 'but slowly' towards the ceiling.
You yourself concluded this is wrong, or shall we expect even more backpedaling, side-stepping, word-in-mouth, red herring...etc...etc..?
ohhh the suspense...
Nyiszli's testimony is bullshit.
GIONNA ADMIT it?
Huuuuuuh?
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@timpo and Jimbo
The rules of gas expansion can indeed dictate what will happen to the victims.
1. Victims are packed into a chamber with openings in the roof.
2. Zyklon B is poured in to the chamber.
3. Within seconds, the victims nearest the source start to collapse and show signs of distress.
4. As the nearest victims start to die, those behind start to panic.
5. As more people collapse, the ones further back climb over each other to get out of the way.
cont...
deconneurnot 1 month ago
cont..
6. The strongest victims are more likely to push themselves over the weaker ones.
7. The gas continues to expand in all directions
8. the piles of bodies get higher the nearer to the exists and further from the source as they can get.
9. It all makes no difference as the gas eventually reaches everyone.
10. On opening the doors, the witness finds bodies piled high.
The victims are not going deliberately high up...they are trying to get away from the effects of the slow expanding HCN.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot
1 to 10:
I would also suggest that the frenzied movement of panicking people would ensure that no 'stratification' would ever even begin.
His theory on awareness is also fucked up and wrong. If something is rapidly closing down your ability to breathe, panic will just cause you to fight against the throng in any direction, but always towards what you think might be space and clean air.
The only space was above them.
Game over.
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings
"panic will just cause you to fight against the throng in any direction, but always towards what you think might be space and clean air."
Quite correct, and seeing how the gas is invisible the most logical reaction would be to get away as far from the source as possible even if it means climbing over others to do so. I would guess that the piles of bodies would be higher the further you got from the Zyklon B pellets.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot
Your avisionry demolition....nice!
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings
Cheers
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot Oh, and decowardlots... as it appears that you've actually read Nyiszli's bullshit book now, tell us... did you notice anything else in there that kinba gives away the fact that he is full of shit?
Huh?
heh
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
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@deconneurnot "I would guess that the piles of bodies would be higher the further you got from the Zyklon B pellets."
And guessing is all you losers do.
Guess what?
I win, again...
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@timpovikings " panic will just cause you to fight against the throng in any direction,"
More speculation on behalf of one half of the Glimmer Twins...
As always, nothing is too thin for these retards... heh
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "The rules of gas expansion can ..."
Yes, your pure speculation as to how victims may/may not 'panic' is a 'rule of gas expansion'...
Tell us loser, is there ANY straw, no matter HOW ridiculous and pathetic that you WON'T cling to in a desperate attempt to substansiate Nyiszli's bullshit claims?
Apparently not...
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
Sorry, mate. You need someone qualified, who agrees with you on the specialised chemistry.
Isn't Willy Wonka in the phonebook?
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings " You need someone qualified, who agrees with you on the specialised chemistry."
Otherwise, lighter than air gases don't rise in air, huh L'il Timmy Fuckbrains?
Nyiszli's testimony is bullshit.
But you bumbling zeroes just CAN'T face the fact, huh?
BAU
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
Wow,,,stunning Jimbo; 2 pages of verbal diarrhea and yet you still can't find anyone;
"who agrees with you on the specialised chemistry."
Have a nice day.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot The real stunner here is the fact that decowardlots STILL clings to his idiotic and pointless 'you need someone to agree with the fact that lighter than air gases would result in higher concentrations the higher you go before the fact is 'valid'' stupidity.
Again shit-for-brains, the FACT remains that Nyiszli's testimony is bullshit.
Unless... you wish to SIDE with his account?
I mean, why not? It's not like flying in the face of facts is anything new to a moron like you.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
" The real stunner here..."
is that you steadfastly refuse (cos you can't find any) to post evidence that HCN in the guise of Zyklon B acts in the manner you subscribe to; namely that it goes straight up and stratifies at the ceiling.
Now Jimbo...we have a saying here in the UK..."put up or shut up"...so what's it going to be big boy?
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "...the guise of Zyklon B acts in the manner you subscribe to..."
It DOES form in higher concentrations the higher you go, since it IS lighter than air. This goes right against what Nyiszli claims in his vaunted 'eyewitness testimony'.
Care to actually admit to this?
Care to 'put up or shut up'?
Or shall we expect nothing but more typical hypocritical avoidance and sidetepping on the matter?
Ohhh the suspense...
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
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@JimTheHammerXCII
"It DOES form in higher concentrations the higher you go, since it IS lighter than air"
Except you can't prove HCN from Zyklon B acts in that way Jimbo.
Its OK Jimbo....I don't expect any proof to back up your assertions.
No side stepping Jimbo. Just give us the proof that HCN acts as you say it does.
deconneurnot 4 weeks ago
@deconneurnot
RECAP:
There is no valid photographic proof of mass gas chambers while there IS such proof of other atrocities, cameras WERE inside the camps at the time (A fact denied by decowardlots but of course, he refuses to actually stand by this...) and eyewitness testimony is unreliable and therefore not proof.
All facts... all avoided by the Clown Twins... all the time.... 24/7.
Game.
Set.
Match.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
"and eyewitness testimony is unreliable and therefore not proof."
SHIT!!
That discounts 99% of the world's history then doesn't it.
You are funny.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "That discounts 99% of the world's history then doesn't it."
Once again, decowardlots tries to put words in my mouth as this is the very best his pitiful, myopic mindset can actually conjure up in a very desperate attempt to deflect from the actual and pertinent point that eyewitness testimony, on which your entire position is built upon, is NOT 'proof'.
Nyiszli gave false testimony, a fact which you refuse to admit to, because you're a cowardly myopic idiot.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
" Once again, decowardlots tries to put words in my mouth "
ZZZzzzzzz.....no he doesn't.
You don't accept ANY eyewitness testimony. History in general relies mainly on eyewitness testimony. We are very lucky if there is physical evidence as well, but it is not always necessary to prove an event occurred....except, so it seems if it relates to the Holocaust.
So how do we know the Battle of Trafalga took place? How do we know Hannibal crossed the Alps?
deconneurnot 4 weeks ago
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@deconneurnot "You don't accept ANY eyewitness testimony."
Once again, decowardlots tries to put words in my mouth ; I never made this claim.
Eyewitness testimony can be true, but it cannot be used as definitive proof.
As PROVEN by the FACT that your Star Witness Nyiszli's testimony has been exposed as bullshit (and to which you absolutely refuse to admit to, as usual) such testimony alone cannot determine the validity of the premise.
Now please, keep serving up red herring..
JimTheHammerXCII 3 weeks ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
" Eyewitness testimony can be true, but it cannot be used as definitive proof."
What's up Jimbo?...you seem a little confused. You disproving the whole of history again big boy?
LMAO!!!
"As PROVEN by the FACT that your Star Witness Nyiszli's testimony has been exposed as bullshit"
YAWN......
No it hasn't. You can't provide ANY evidence to prove it is.
Oops.
deconneurnot 2 weeks ago
@deconneurnot "You disproving the whole of history again big boy?"
As usual, decowardlots reverts to his idiotic word-in-mouth routine since he so stupid and useless...
The fact that eyewitness testimony cannot be used as definitive proof somehow means I am dismissing all of history, huh? heh... you're truly pathetic.
"You can't provide ANY evidence to prove it is."
Already did- Nyiszli claims to have escaped the camp and traveled to the Birkenau KZ. That is irrefutable B.S.
JimTheHammerXCII 2 weeks ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
" Already did- Nyiszli claims to have escaped the camp and traveled to the Birkenau KZ."
That proves how HCN works Jimbo?
LMAO!!
deconneurnot 2 weeks ago
@deconneurnot "That proves how HCN works Jimbo?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Fuckhead, you JUST whined that I didn't provide "ANY evidence to prove" Nyiszli's trstimony was bullshit, and now, now that it'as been ground into your helpless idiotic face, you naturally try to change subject since as we all know, you are actually this goddamn spineless and pathetic.
now prove it again decowardlots; wiping the walls with your blood is pure entertainment.
JimTheHammerXCII 2 weeks ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
"you JUST whined that I didn't provide "ANY evidence to prove" Nyiszli's trstimony was bullshit"
YAWN....the term "goalposts" and "movement" comes to mind Jimbo.
Try to keep in context. That's a good boy.
"wiping the walls with your blood is pure entertainment."
YAWN...I never stop being amazed at how denier boys love that self glorification crap.
Funny.
deconneurnot 2 weeks ago
@deconneurnot "Try to keep in context."
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!H!!
Shit-for-brains, the CONTEXT was the FACT that Nyiszli's testimony has been exposed as bullshit.
That is EXACTLY the issue YOU were responding to.
THEN you resort to your typical change-of-subject routine and now YOU whine about 'keeping in context'??
HAHAHAHAAHAHH!!!
You're an absolute fool and eternal loser.
JimTheHammerXCII 2 weeks ago
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@JimTheHammerXCII
"You're an absolute fool.."
You're funny.
;-)
deconneurnot 2 weeks ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
"cameras WERE inside the camps at the time (A fact denied by decowardlots but of course, he refuses to actually stand by this...)"
I never said cameras were NOT inside the camps, Jimbo. After all, we have some cute little piccies of those nice Nazis at Auschwitz partying and having a good time. It's just that there don't seem to be any piccies taken of masses of dead bodies piled high in Ausch and the Ar camps taken by the Nazis themselves.
Keep on task.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "I never said cameras were NOT inside the camps."
You said that the only pictures of dead bodies etc... were taken only by allies after the camps were liberated.
But you refuse to stand by this claim because you're a coward, an ass-talking moron, and a close-minded loser.
Quite the combo there, retard.
BTW- The challenge still stands, unlike your entire position on the matter.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
"You said that the only pictures of dead bodies etc... were taken only by allies after the camps were liberated."
I think it was "piles of dead bodies" Jimbo,,,not simply individual dead bodies. The sorts of things the allies photographed at places like Belsen. Whilst you are at it, you can show us photos of Cambodians being murdered as well as those murders being carried out by the Soviets.
deconneurnot 4 weeks ago
@deconneurnot "I think it was "piles of dead bodies" Jimbo,,,not simply individual dead bodies. "
I think you said ONLY allies took photos, a futile attempt to dismiss the FACT that cameras WERE inside the camps and yet, not a single photo to prove the existence of mass homocidal gas chambers, you know, my entire point from the beginning.
Now, the CHALLENGE?
Care to actuall stand behind your words?
No?
How about acknowledging the fact that cameras were there, yet no proof?
JimTheHammerXCII 3 weeks ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
"I think you said ONLY allies took photos.."
Naughty naughty Jimbo. I didn't say that big boy. I said the only photos taken of masses of dead bodies in the camps were taken by the Allies when the camps were liberated.
I never said there were no cameras in the camps.
Its just that the Germans never took piccies of the extermination process in the camps because they were not allowed to.
deconneurnot 2 weeks ago
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@deconneurnot "I said the only photos taken of masses of dead bodies in the camps were taken by the Allies when the camps were liberated."
And that's wrong also.
"Its just that the Germans never took piccies of the extermination process in the camps because they were not allowed to. "
And yet for some reason, they WERE 'allowed' to take heaps of pics/films of mass exterminations involving shootings/hangings/...etc...
The stupidity you cling to is worn papery-thin decowardlot
JimTheHammerXCII 2 weeks ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
So, no response from Wonka then?
I hate it when celebrities forget their roots, don't you?
timpovikings 1 month ago
ew giftshop? wtf I WENT TO AUSCHWITZ AND ALL I GOT IS A LOUSY TSHIRT
FutureLaugh 1 month ago
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"OK retard, once again: the gas rises and accumulates in stronger concentrations the higher up you go."
This is in the chambers in which no collected mass of captive humans was ever subjected to cyanide gassing, right?
So therefore the only thing you can use as a demonstration or comparison to what never happened..... is with the emphatically stated bahaviour of cyanide gas in a structure during an event you now suggest DID happen.
Beautiful.....really.
timpovikings 1 month ago
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timpovikings 1 month ago
Sick,sick people who fall for this vile propganda. Where were the millioms of Jews who lived in E Europe,after the war? Where are their millions of descendents? To all fair minded people,don't believe this nonsense,tests have shown the chemical residue agents still in the camps use to kill millions! The person who says they were not found has long been discredited. Don't fall for revisionist and Nazi propaganda,they are the same thing!.
bess1953 1 month ago
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@bess1953" tests have shown the chemical residue agents still in the camps use to kill millions!"
15 samples from delousing chambers had nearly 5,000 PPM of residual wall cyanide, 16 from the alleged homicidal gas chamber averaged 3PPM, while the 11 from the "controls" averaged nearly 2 PPM.
Based on the 27 measured samples of wall iron cyanide, there was no significant difference between the samples from the alleged homicidal chambers and from the control samples.
TheRedcatchop 1 month ago
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@bess1953 "To all fair minded people,don't believe this nonsense,tests have shown the chemical residue agents still in the camps use to kill millions!"
Zyklon was designed as a delousing agent. To find residue doesn't prove that millions were murdered but rather that you are an idiot.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
FINALLY SOMEONE IS MAKING SENSE AND TELLING THE TRUTH.
glower125 1 month ago
You sound like one scrawny, sleazy fucker.
mattcorden95 1 month ago
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FYI: ~Jews are hateful liars; actual Holocaust was of valiant anti-Commie Germans! Doors of alleged Gas/Shower-rooms have easily broken glass-windows! Even guesstimates of some 2-3 hundred-thou. Jews may have perished in St.Hitler's safe-Encampments, owing to typhus caused by horrid jewZionist directed USA & UK carpet-bombing of German-territory, -are apparently generous owing to scrupulously kept records of Int'al./RedCross, --indicating there were actually more Jews after WW2 than before.!!!
AryanKnight 1 month ago
In which asyllum they miss the idiot that maded this propagandavideo? I think this creep is a member of a Security Office searching for Neo nazis who like this type of nonsence!
jt123egypte 2 months ago
Where can I find the full version of this video?
X0verXDriveX 2 months ago
As any body noticed that ZIONIST NAZIS BELONGING to USrael a bastard of US has got this video declared offensive ....
TheSirSneaky 2 months ago
@TheSirSneaky Don't worry, they'll probably get it taken off the tube outright, since that is their only way of avoiding the truth here...
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
This is getting embarrassing, mate.
You just need the torso, the front legs, the head......and a jockey!
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings Hiya L'il Tim-Tim.
Got any relevant facts or issues that you can actually face?
No?
I win, again.
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
WHY can't L'il Timmy Fuckbrains here actually address a pertinent issue?
Oh yeah, now I remember: because's stupid, doesn't have a leg to stand, he's stupid, completely incompetent, a bumbling moron and let's never forget the fact... that he is... and always will be...
a PROVEN COWARD!
And that just burrrrrnnnns your little Down Syndrome face, doesn't Tim-Tim?
Oh yes it does!
HJAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA!!!
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
get your fathers cock out of you anus and get an education you dirty black bastard.
MonkeyMohammed 2 months ago
The best book I've read about the Holocaust is by Martin Gilbert. It's called The Holocaust The Jewish Tragedy. It explains from Kristallnacht to the meeting at Wansee, the Einsatzgruppen and the ghettoes. The first gassings by carbon monoxide (this was first used in Germany to kill disabled people, considered a burden to the Reich) It's not an easy book to read, but I do recommend it. Holocaust deniers are on the wrong site, funny they watch the videos but don't understand them.
bananasplitsable 2 months ago
Morons!
Dawngael 2 months ago
Go ahead and split all the hairs you wish as you try to explain away the absence of German and Polish Jewry in Europe and the more you try, the more you will confirm that in your Holocaust Denial, you carry out the very goals of the Nuremberg Laws, i.e. the Wiping Away of All Historical Evidence that Jews ever existed in Europe, while you absolutely prove your devotion to Anti-Semitism, even among FELLOW SEMITES, of Arab Origin.
The more you lie about this, the more truth you reveal!
MARKETEX 2 months ago
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@MSM4U2POM Just can't face the issue, Huh L'il Timmy?
Just can't admit error, huh?
Business As Usual for the PROVEN COWARD.
Now dance some more, idiot!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!!
I win, again.
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
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JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
I believe the irreutable fact that there exists not a single shred of photographic proof of mass gas chambers.
I also believe you can't give a reasonable explanation for this.
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"I also believe you can't give a reasonable explanation for this."
Already done Jimbo...but you don't "believe" it.
LMAO!
..but I also believe you can't give an alternative.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
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@deconneurnot "Already done Jimbo...but you don't "believe" it."
And what WAS your 'explanation'? Oh yeah: that all pictures of the camps were taken by allies after the camps were liberated.
AGAIN:
"...and all taken by the ALLIES after the camps were liberated."
ALL of them, huh? Sooo, you'll have no problem agreeing to admit that you're a babbling moron if I produce even ONE photo not taken by allies, right?
Riiiii-iiiii-iiiight?
Now avoid backing up your own bullshit.. heh
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"And what WAS your 'explanation'? Oh yeah: that all pictures of the camps were taken by allies after the camps were liberated."
Er, no...that was in relation to YOUR previous statement. You were stressing all those photos taken of piles of dead bodies in the camps. I just pointed out that they were NOT taken by the Germans, and they were not taken in Poland.
...but then you deniers, Jimbo, always had a problem with context didn't you.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot "You were stressing all those photos taken of piles of dead bodies in the camps."
And so now, you resort to painfully obvious and cheap fabrication. Who's re-writing history here? heh
I was stressing the LACK of photos as per mass gas chambers. I've only stressed THAT about a million times.
YOU claimed that cameras weren't allowed in the camps.
Here, I'll re-paste your very own words, which you still refuse to back...
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
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@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"And so now, you resort to painfully obvious and cheap fabrication"
So please explain this quote of yours a week back:
"Photos of emaciated prisoners, piles of dead bodies, the overns...etc...etc... all taken from within the barbed wire... CAMERAS WERE THERE... but again, you cannot explain the lack of proof as per gas chambers."
Whose cameras Jimbo? Care to clarify for us?
deconneurnot 2 months ago
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@deconneurnot ""It appears the Nazis were quite strict about secrecy regarding the exterminations. Taking pics for the family album was a no no punishable by death."
The challenge still stands, Oh Proven COward...
But you just can't allow yourself to admit to the truth here?
How pathetic is that?
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"The challenge still stands"
Already answered.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot
"Already answered."
Glad you, the fucking idiot, thinks so, but for the rest of us in the sane world, all you did was sidestep it again by resorting to weak and laughable atttempts at falsehood and word-in-mouth.
Again, you claimed taking pictures within the camp was a 'no-no' as an 'explanation for the lack of photographic proof as per gas chambers.
Now get back to cowering before the challenge to actually stand behind your words, it's all you got anyway...
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"Again, you claimed taking pictures within the camp was a 'no-no' as an 'explanation for the lack of photographic proof as per gas chambers."
Of course it was Jimbo. Strict secrecy orders which we know existed are the reason why no piccies were taken. But then I already said that.
So now go away Jimbo and show me a photo or film clip of a dead Hitler and Eva in their bunker and a photo of Rommel taking his cyanide pill.
;-)
deconneurnot 2 months ago
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@deconneurnot "Strict secrecy orders which we know existed are the reason why no piccies were taken."
AGAIN:
"...and all taken by the ALLIES after the camps were liberated."
ALL of them, huh? Sooo, you'll have no problem agreeing to admit that you're a babbling moron if I produce even ONE photo not taken by allies, right?
Riiiii-iiiii-iiiight?
Now avoid backing up your own bullshit.. heh
(Watch as decowardlot refuses to stand behind his words... again...)
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
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@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"ALL of them, huh? Sooo, you'll have no problem agreeing to admit that you're a babbling moron if I produce even ONE photo not taken by allies, right?"
If you have pictures of any mass piles of bodies taken by the Germans in Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor or Belzec then post ahead. It would be interesting to see pictures of an event you claimed never happened.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot "..but I also believe you can't give an alternative. "
That's because there IS no reasonable explanation for the complete lack of photographic evidence as per mass homocidal gas chambers. My entire point from the start. And here is coward-boy, STILL not getting the picture?
How far IS your head jammed up your idiotic ass?
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
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@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"That's because there IS no reasonable explanation for the complete lack of photographic evidence as per mass homocidal gas chambers"
Already explained earlier Jimbo. Ignoring it, doesn't make you any more right.
Still, let me know when you get a photo of Hitler and Ava's bodies won't you after they had committed suicide. After all...such an important act would have been photographed don't you think?
deconneurnot 2 months ago
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@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"The rising gas stratifies at the ceiling and then fills the room from the top down."
So there were no gas chambers.....but you know how it was stratifying at the ceiling and killing people.
That one should be in neon somewhere, Dim.
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings Here is L'il Timmy Fuckbrains hard at work being a consummate moron and loser again:
"So there were no gas chambers.....but you know how it was stratifying at the ceiling and killing people."
There really is not a single brain cell in your empty sloping head, is there?
Since the gas WOULD accumulate from the top down it proves Nyiszli is full of shit.
Try to keep up, retard.
Just kidding: we all know you're too stupid even for that...
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"Since the gas WOULD accumulate from the top down "
I see chemistry was not your forte at school Jimbo. You need to look up "the diffusion of gases". HCN would have spread in all directions after the Zyklon B reacted with the air. Those nearest the Zyklon would have reacted almost immediately. Those behind would have fought to get out of the way. This explains the piles of bodies seen by the eyewitness.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot "HCN would have spread in all directions after the Zyklon B reacted with the air."
The air of which it is lighter than...
(Cue 'Jeopardy' theme as deloserlot continues his quest to be crown the World's Most Stupid 'Man')
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
Zyklon as a building fumigant would have served little if any use if it was incapable of spreading to ALL areas of a room.
Put it this way Jimbo, when YOU fart, you don't need to wait for the gas to hit the roof first before you smell it!
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot (Shaking head in disbelief...)
Just HOW fucking dense are you?
Since it is lighter than air, for it to fill the room completely, it must first inundate the upper levels, then work its way down. I don't know how else to explain the obvious to such a savagely stupid person as you without bringing in sock puppets, but the fact remains that Nyiszli's claims cannot be true according to the laws of fucking physics.
You're an idiot, and eternal loser.
Looks good on ya!
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"Since it is lighter than air, for it to fill the room completely, it must first inundate the upper levels, then work its way down."
Oh dear. That is not how the "laws of physics" work Jimbo. The movement of gases in an environment is dictated by the reaction of the gas molecules concerned (HCN) with the heavier air molecules. Gases "spread outward in EVERY DIRECTION to regions where they are in low concentration."
Diffusion.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot You just can't admit error huh?
I mean, it's a lighter than air gas.
Pretty simple to understand, but not for you, no, you HAVE to run with the idiotic idea that somehow, lighter than air gas molecules WOULDN'T be forced upwards due to the heavier air molecules.
I mean, it's only math, the laws of physics and simple logic that you're trying to deny here, and all because you MUST try to keep the integrity of Nyiszli's testimony 'valid'.
You're pathetic.
hahahahaha
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
When do you expect Reuters and AP to headlline the change in history you will inevitably force with your chemistry degree?
It's just, after 70 years I think there should be a 'heads up' of some kind besides yours inserted in your bahookie, mate.
When this began you had HCN heavier than air - but now it's lighter. Terrifying stuff, this mix and match when you feel like it bullshit.
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings Sooooo, because Reuters didn't run a story, that means that the gas DOESN'T rise, right?
That IS the incredibly idiotic stupidity that you're wheeling out now, huh L'il Timmy Fuckbrains?
hahahahahaha
Holy FUCK but you are stupid.
"When this began you had HCN heavier than air..."
Just as your Star Witness Nyiszli had it.
ARE you saying he was WRONG?
Huuuuuuuuh?
(Now watch L'il Timmy avoid this and just re-launch into Idiot Mode...)
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
You insisted it was heavier than air, mate.
Then you did a quick about turn.
It was around the time you went and searched for Jiessen Krakkuz, mate! LMFAO!
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings I 'insisted' it was so since that was what the Great Miklos Nyiszli claimed in his 'true, eye-witness account'...
ARE you saying he was therefore full of shit L'il Timmy?
Yes or no?
(Now watch the sub-human losing machine avoid this AGAIN...)
Dance Timmy, Daaaaannnce!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!
I win, again.
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
You MUST recall it, mate.
You also went and looked for Duff Remle and Amon Ekks!
Mate, we can't hope to prove a Holocaust while the opposition have you. You should really be in a castle keep, guarded by knights and stuff.
THAT'S how terrifying you are.
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings yes, I recall it L'il Timmy. I recall agreeing with Nyiszli on the matter.
ARE you saying he was therefore full of shit L'il Timmy?
Yes or no?
(Now watch the sub-human losing machine avoid this AGAIN...)
Dance Timmy, Daaaaannnce!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!
I win, again.
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
You agree with him?
Excellent decision, mate. I knew I could get to like you! ;-)
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings I DID agree with his L'il Timmy.
Do you know your tenses yet? No? Just too moronic for that huh?
(Pats L'il Timmy onna head...)
There there... that's a good little retard...
P.S> YES or NO?
hahahahaahaha
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
If you agree, so do I.
You have a nice day, friend. ;-)
timpovikings 2 months ago
@timpovikings "If you agree, so do I."
Translation: L'il Timmy Fuckbrains can't answer the simple and relevant yes-or-no question. Again.
What a surprise.
Anyway, Nyiszly was wrong, and the Clown Twins can't admit it, since it deflates their entire 'testimony is proof' stupidity.
Game.
Set.
Match.
Now, can anyone explain why there are no photographic proof as per mass gas chambers?
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
The scientific world according to Jimbo.
Zyklon B releases HCN gas on contact with air. The air travels upwards in a straight line avoiding anyone standing to the sides. It then collects and "stratifies" at the ceiling, therefore all victims in the chamber would survive because the gas stays above them.
Excuse the Star Trek parody, but "its science Jim; but not as we know it!"
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
The REAL scientific world.
Zyklon B releases HCN on contact with the air. The gas then diffuses in ALL directions, as it is intended to do. Those victims nearest the source die first. Those behind panic and fight to survive by clambering over others to get away from the gas. The gas continues to spread, killing all those in its way. After a half hour or so, all in the enclosed room are dead from HCN poisoning.
You lose.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot "Those victims nearest the source die first. "
Those inhaling the highest concentrations of gas would die first.
The gas is lighter than air.
People wouldn't be clamboring to get AT the ceiling where the gas accumulates.
Nyiszli is full of shit.
2+2=4, yet decowardlot just CAN'T face the facts, since his precious star witness is thus exposed as a fraud so here he is, trying to re-write the laws of physics.
You're a fucking idiot of biblical proportions.
heh
JimTheHammerLXXXVII 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXVII
"The gas is lighter than air."
So what Jimbo? It wasn't encased in a balloon. Try looking up diffusion Jimbo, or are you too scared...
;-)
We don't run adult science lessons at our school, but just for you I'll make inquiries.
"re-write the laws of physics."
Just let me know of any physicist who happens to agree with you regarding the diffusion gasses won't you.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot
" Just let me know of any physicist who happens to agree with you regarding the diffusion gasses won't you."
I see you can't find one then....
Game
Set
match
I win.
deconneurnot 2 months ago
@deconneurnot "I see you can't find one then...."
One what? A physicist who agrees with the fucking laws of physics? Yes, I have to do that, because you refuse to face the fact that lighter than air gasses generally tend to rise since they are, believe it or not, lighter than fucking air.
Ironically, this ultra-lame sidestep is the very best tactic of avoiding the truth of the matter than an air-headed moron like you can ever even hope to achieve.
Now, the challenge?
JimTheHammerLXXXIX 2 months ago
@JimTheHammerLXXXIX
"lighter than air gasses generally tend to rise"
I like the way you slipped in the word "generally".
Nice. looks like a "change in direction" Jimbo.
LOL
"Now, the challenge?"
Show us a physicist.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "I like the way you slipped in the word "generally"."
I like the way you STILL refuse to face facts/ stand by your own words...
AGAIN: lighter than air gas, in an enclosed room, will accumulate in higher concentrations towards the ceiling.
Nyiszli's vaunted eye-witness testimony however, has the 'victims' fighting each other to get AT the gas.
Now dance, sidestep, snivel..etc..all you want, you can't change the fact that Nyiszli is full of shit, or that you're an idiot.
JimTheHammerXC 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXC
Hey Jimbo..
"The opinion is often expressed that, because gaseous hydrogencyanide is approximately 5% lighter than air, it must separate from air and rise. Hydrogen cyanide gas is, however, only slightly lighter than air and does not separate, because of the thermal movement of every gas particle."
and
"But to conclude from this that hydrogen cyanide vapors always rise, would be an incorrect conclusion."
Care to guess who said it?
You're fucked!
Oops.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot
"Care to guess who said it?"
Uhh, the same guy who said this?: "In North Carolina, this gas arises immediately beneaththe victim, so that the victim must be exposed, immediately after the beginning of the execution process, to a concentration which probablyexceeds 10% by volume for a short period, but then falls steadily as aresult of diffusion of the hydrogen cyanide throughout the chamber."
Shall we delve into his musings on eyewitness testimony?
Hmmmm?
JimTheHammerXCI 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCI
"Uhh, the same guy who said this?:"
You mean a small gas chamber and the rapid release of HCN completed with the help of a boost from sulphuric acid?
Can't remember that being the case in the HGCs, can you?
oops
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "You mean a small gas chamber and the rapid release of HCN completed with the help of a boost from sulphuric acid?"
I mean the revisionist's testimony, which you now hold aloft like The Golden Egg, states that the gas rises and fills the room, which totally destroys Nyiszli's claims.
But you can't ever face that, huh decowardlots?
Not your precious Star Witness Testimony that your entire house of cards rests on, huh?
Huh?
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!
JimTheHammerXCI 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCI
"which totally destroys Nyiszli's claims."
The fact that slow moving HCN spreading outwards from a source causes panic amongst victims and forces them to fight and clamber over each other in order to get away from the deadly effects of the gas before eventually dying themselves as the gas fills the room?
You mean those claims?
Or do you mean your HCN gas that rises in an upward direction only, to bounce off the roof before killing a single person?
Hmmm.
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCI
" In North Carolina, this gas arises immediately beneaththe victim, so that the victim must be exposed, immediately after the beginning of the execution process"
So actually the prisoner is virtually sitting on top of the source whilst confined in a tiny metal chamber. Not much place the gas can travel to then is there. Still...according to you the prisoner only dies after the gas has bounced off the ceiling!
How does that work?
deconneurnot 1 month ago
@deconneurnot "Still...according to you the prisoner only dies after the gas has bounced off the ceiling!"
Either you are pathological as far as indulging in idiotic word-in-mouth behavior, or you are so incredibly fucking stupid, that this is the very best your puny loser mind can conjure up.
Either way, what I'm saying, for the millionth time, is that the gas accumulates in higher concentrations the higher you go, victims wouldn't scramble to get at it, Nyszli is full of shit.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
Go Dim!
Still failing - and under your 12th account.
Awesome.
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings
"Still failing -" said Little Tim-Tim the absolute retard who can't even address the facts presented.
(Glues a big gold star in the middle of Timmy's huge misshapen forehead)
there ya go, retard!
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
You have a right to be angry, son.
I can't recall a denier being so sure about how gassing occurred in gas chambers he says never existed! ROFL!
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings "I can't recall a denier being so sure about how gassing occurred in gas chambers he says never existed!"
That's because you are too myopic and stupid to realize that the physical properties of lighter than air gas proves how a gassing WOULD have occured and therefore Nyiszli's entire account of this is bullshit.
Now reply, and fail to get it again, since you're truly this stupid and cowardly that you can't admit to irrefutable fact.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago
@JimTheHammerXCII
And how are you theorising on the bahaviour of people subjected to gassing, in a structure in which cyanide was never released for the purpose of mass murder?
You seem to have locked yourself into a space suit - after having taken a very potent laxative, mate. ;-)
timpovikings 1 month ago
@timpovikings "And how are you theorising on the bahaviour of people subjected to gassing, in a structure in which cyanide was never released for the purpose of mass murder?"
Typical Little Timmy Fuckbrains 'reasoning'... since I doubt that mass gas chambers were used to kill millions, the laws of physics suddenly do not apply.
Keep swinging, keep missing... it's all you can do, since you're a fucking idiot.
JimTheHammerXCII 1 month ago