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  • i need a ps2 again for ff7

  • zelda isnt a rpg.

  • Good choices actually. Just wished you had thrown some PS2, PS3, Wii, and 360 games in there. :)

  • FF7 is the best game ever made.

  • ff7 is is the best

  • YES! GRANDIA <3 This game deserves more respect and awareness, thanks for including this game (with, might I add, some of the best music ever featured in a game) on your list. :)

  • Hell yeah Star Ocean 2nd Story FTW

  • Great list man. Have played many of these, but I can see I missed out on quite a few - Grandia, Suikoden II, Star Ocean, FFVIII and Legend of Dragoon mainly. All of the otherse I've played and loved to death. Secret of Mana is probably my favorite out of all of them, close with Lufia 2 - mainly because those have the strongest memories for me =)

  • great list! thx man! Don't listen to all the haters ... they just have to make their own video if they think this list is bad.

  • Zelda is still an adventure with rpg elements :) not a full rpg

  • were is diablo?

  • @MrMacinegun on a list with non console rpg's i would think :P

  • @Yurothehotot Diablo was Released on PSX.

  • suiko2 ftw .

  • For me an RPG is when you can personnalise your characters. You can level up, buy items, equip gear, choose skills (skill trees), choose class, etc.

    Zelda looks more like an action-adventure than an RPG since you don't even decide what skills you get or what items you're gonna use (well you can but it's very weak).

  • Thanks for putting The Legend of Dragoon. Additions were something brilliant, even though I think the fighting mecanics were flawed in some aspects

    Thanks for Chrono Trigger. Unique RPG that never gets old.

    Thanks for FFVIII partly cuz it's hated by a lot of ppl. I liked the story, the atmosphere and I'm really missing it in RPGs nowadays. "Mad Rush" was broken though lol

    And a HUGE thanks for Suikoden II. Each time I look for top RPGs, I'm always curious if this one's in it cuz it is the best

  • what no earthbound what is wrong with you

  • @darkhallwaygames

    agreed.mother/earthbound should be on the list.

  • personally i think legend of dragoon should be rated higher. it my favorite rpg on ps1 but im happy its in your list!!

  • @LynnJynh9315 Why bother picking on Final Fantasy VII anyway?

    It's The Best,Most Epic,Overrated,Over hyped RPG Game Ever made!

    There will never be another game like this lol xD

  • The Legend of Zelda isn't an RPG, you doof. It's an adventure game.

  • @Stoneth Actually, is considered an Adventure Game, but it looks like an Adventure RPG

  • Good list!

  • eat a dick tap.. zelda is an  RPG one of the originals :0) Secret of Mana was the best why dont they still make those sorts of games brings back memories

  • @TheWillow1979 How does eating a dick make me agree with you? Idiot.

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  • I would not count Zelda as a RPG, because it is not stat-based at all. You should consider it an action adventure.

  • @TapSkill Is an adventure game, but because of it's graphics and modes, looks like an RPG. I considered Zelda like an Adventure RPG

  • @Ackrasth Zelda is a fun series and deserves whatever recognition it can get, and I will agree it could be considered a game in which you play a role... therefore, it could be a RPG, technically.

  • @TapSkill

    The trouble is, most games have you playing a role. 

  • zelda was my fav but i liked them all the gameplay was cool

  • Chrono Trigger is my Fav of all time RPG

  • @TheHDBailly

    Chrono Trigger shits over mass effect series any day.

  • @TheHDBailly

    Chrono Trigger shits over all next gen RPG games.

  • Ugh FF8... There are several final fantasy that are worse I guess. I want them to go back to good games. When I play a game I don't want to set it up to play itself.

  • oooooh to be young again.... good choices.

    but i dont understand how you could pick, secret of mana, lufia 2, and crono trigger WITHOUT picking final fantasy 6...

  • Your #1 definitly deserved.. To me also still the best RPG ever made!

  • definately FFVII, the game had such a good story that you ended up really hating Sepiroth, also it had a fantastic sense of travel and adventure (before you got the airship). Lots of fun mini games in the gold saucer, each carachter had their own detailed back story (Red XIII my favourite) and the overall sence of achievement when killing ruby or emerald weapon was immense!! Best ever and screaming out to be remade!!!

  • well you are retarded indeed,video-poster guy,and stupid,how in the heck do you put Legend of Zelda there?You dont know whats RPG means?It doesnt mean Role Playing Game,because all games are Rol Playing,it means TURN-BASED FIGTHS GAMES!!!!!

  • Finger up who think this guy is retarded.

  • 1. Chrono Cross

    2. FFX

  • nice list, but FF7 again? It´s a good game but every other game in your list is better. FF7 is a hyped game by some fanboys.

  • zelda is not rpg...

  • ~Zelda a Action-RPG, Get over your self. <3

  • @ShogTheEmo

    its an Action-Adventure, Zelda has no RPG-element!

    Deal With It!

  • Lufia 2 FTW!!

  • How many times does it need to be said?! ZELDA IS NOT AN RPG!!!

  • great i like it ^^ as long as STAR OCEAN is on it ^^ and my #1 rpg snes, secret of mana too ^^

  • While legend of zelda isn't an rpg, I'm glad you have legend of dragoon on this list. nice touch.

  • GREAT LIST! :D

  • I find Final Fantasy VII to be so overrated just my personal opinion I actually liked IX a whole lot more then VII which in turn was much better then VIII which in my opinion the worst non sequel/spinoff Final Fantasy game.

  • @pathora44 I agree with you on VIII, but you have to understand that, for many people, FFVII was the first RPG they played and it caused a big impact. I can honestly say its had huge impact with me and its up to this day, my favourite Final fantasy. I admit i never did play FFVI to my shame, and people say its the best so my opinion should be regarded with that fact in consideration. I don't really like the design of FFIX characters even though I recognise its a great game.

  • zelda is not an rpg. If it was set in a modern setting nobody would even consider it one. If zelda is an RPG so is DK64 because you start out with only 2 health melons and then get up to 4. You also get various musical instruments and other abilities as you collect more money.

  • @mootime Zelda actually does fit the description of an action RPG. You can see many aspects of Zelda in almost all action RPGS still to this day.

  • @Mr69hammertime

    i guess mario 64 is an action rpg too then. Lol gamers these days....they just dont know anything it seems

  • @mootime Mario 64 doesn't have dungeon crawling, dozens of npcs with their own various agendas, upgradable armor and weapons of all sorts, or a plot with any amount of depth. All of these are found in Zelda and all are charateristics of an RPG (or Action RPG in this case). So I'm not seeing how you are paralleling this with Mario but please keep making yourself look stupid publicly. BTW I'm probably older and have been playing games since you were swimmin in ur daddys ballsack. Your move.

  • @Mr69hammertime

    There is a problem, here, however. Specifically speaking, Nintendo's own website. Paper Mario? RPG. Tales of Symphonia? RPG. Ocarina of Time? ...Adventure. A Link to the Past? ....Adventure. They don't categorize any of the Zeldas as RPG's.

    I think they're mistaken on Zelda II at least, as that, as far as I am concerned, is an Action-RPG. But basically, the one element separating the other Zelda from the Mana's and Crystalis' of the world is an experience/level-up system.

  • @Mr69hammertime

    mario 64 has dungeon crawling. Just because its not in some fantasy/medieval world doesnt mean it isnt dungeon crawling. LOL @ zelda having dozens of NPCs with their "own various agendas". ZSelda is not an RPG. Its not an action RPG. You are the one looking stupid. And if you are 25 like your profile says.....then nope. You arent older. I've been gaming since I was 4 back in 1985. Your move.

  • @Mr69hammertime No not even close. Mario 64 does, and zelda isn't an rpg because upgrades imply that link isn't improving by gaining experience, but better equipment. So Link remains the same, but his equipment upgrades.

  • Great list dude i loved all these games as a kid still got em!

  • loz link to the past is not a rpg

  • @Guapadude How is it not? Really the only thing distinguishing it from most rpgs is the lack of levels. Other than that they are very similar. You gain more life, new abilities, new and more powerful weapons etc. All hallmarks of an rpg.

  • @scaryplague

    That's all the hallmarks of Metroid, Bioshock, and Grand Theft Auto too.

  • @Guapadude it is

  • we have similar taste

  • Is there anyway I could get Star Ocean on a Nintendo system? I don't have any segas or playstations.

  • u fuck bag u forgot the elder scrolls iv oblivion

  • @sheamcc2 LOL @ raging kid Fail troll is fail

  • All I saw was crap Zelda? Crap crap crap crap chrono trigger crap crap crap ff crap crap

  • Grandia looks cool :)

  • Link to the Past is not an RPG. You don't gain experience points to gain levels in that game.

    And why is Chrono Trigger #6? It should be higher.

  • @Eclipton You don't need to gain experience or Level up for a game to be classified as an rpg, Zelda is as much an RPG as the other games but with different mechanics, instead of gaining levels and experience you gain Hearth Containers Magic upgrades for your weapon and new more powerful items as you go on, I mean okay has become a Genre itself over the time is what you could say but you can easily classify it as an RPG as well.

  • @TheGodOfCruelty

    That would make any game wherein your upgrade your character's health and inventory an RPG. By that definition, Metroid is an RPG series. Same goes for Resident Evil. You run into problems when you try to expand the parameters of the genre too widely. At some point, you have to stop and say, "It's no longer an RPG." It's another genre with RPG elements at best.

  • Good list but I disagree on a few things, putting ff8 above chrono trigger is fail. You also forgot super mario rpg completely, that's one of the best rpgs ever.

    I agree with your top pick however, FF7 is my favorite game ever just for the story and realistic personalities of the character's, the game really sucks you in.

  • What makes zelda an RPG??

  • @numbah82

    A role-playing game (RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making or character development.Actions taken within the game succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines.

  • @robwallace1981

    Did you read the last sentence of your comment? "Actions taken within the game succeed or fail according to a system of rules and guidelines." Now, the original form of the RPG, the pen and paper variety of yore, relied on the roll of the dice, the numeric statistics representing your character's statistics & modifiers, the NPC's statistics & modifiers, and other factors. This is mimicked "behind the scenes" in many traditional video game RPG's. Zelda doesn't use such systems.

  • @numbah82

    A role-playing game (RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making or character development.Actions taken within the game succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  • @robwallace1981 Too bad there isnt any character development with link, since he doesnt even say a damn word throughout any of his games, and some of this stuff could be said about any action adventure game like Infamous.....you make decisions that determine the outcome of the game or how people interact with you in the game.....So is infamous an RPG?? I think not

  • @numbah82

    Ryu is the protagonist in the Breath of Fire series. Ryu is a member of the Dragon family. He is generally seen with blue hair and a red cape, though his appearance changes for each game, some changes not as drastic as others. Like all his predecessors, he is mute. So is Breath of Fire an RPG, Damn straight it is and one of my favorites too. 

  • @robwallace1981 Too bad i DIDNT say Breath of fire wasnt an RPG....emphais on the "DIDNT"

  • Agreed FF7 best game of all time!

    Considering the technology they had at the time, how far games had come graphic/story/gameplay ect wise in to comparison to what is out now it will allways be the best!

  • zelda isn't a rpg stupiddd

  • @Ander456123

    A role-playing game (RPG) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making or character development.Actions taken within the game succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  • Only JRPGs? I personally would of done: 1. Mass Effect 2 2. Mass Effect 3. Fallout 3 4. KOTOR 5. Dragon Age 6. Fable 7. KOTOR II 8. Fable 2 9. Final Fantasy X 10. Fallout: New Vegas Just my taste in Rpg.
  • @ZetaSimsoy You have, like, no games made before 2000 and... has Mass Effect 3 even come out yet?

  • It's cool you didn't forget Star Ocean 2. No Xenogears?

  • trully best games ever! thumbs up :)

  • Nice list.

  • LUFIA 2 IS THE BEST GAME EVER!

    like if you agree

  • lol is it me or do the graphics for Final Fantasy VIII still kick alittle ass

  • finally someone who know what real RPG are, no the shit we have today, all graphics and the stories suck ass

  • @right about the story but the graphics are fine

  • secrete of mana was badass and still is... And so was secrete of Evermore

  • lod great game but why rank 7

    ff8 a great game but rank 5 >.>

    thank god ff7 is god when it comes to rpg's

    and thats y they remade it for ps3 XDXDXDXD

  • @TheZacckkii

    They have not remade FF7 atal and its doubtful if they ever will. The time and money needed in their opinion would outweigh any profit and would take time away from their other releases.

    You can only download FF7 on PS3.

  • Chrono Trigger was the friggin' shiznit on a plate served to bitch niga

  • sweet list bro, i played and enjoyed most of these games. they're all bloody great. super mario rpg was dope, breath of fire, alundra,ocarina of time, harvest moon, and lunar silver star story were also fuggin tight

  • final fantasy 8 has to be the best rpg i have ever played console wise and tbh i know its not everybodys cupa tea but stil :( it just has so many twists lol. As for the rest of the games i have completed or either played except suikuden i think most or all of them deserve number 1 because most have drained 100+ hours of my life away lol :)) just 1 more thing no Tales Of Phantasia :(

  • @TamMcilhargey1 totally agree with you about ff8 AND tales of phantasia.

  • Also oh god thats what star oceon was back in the day?!? THATS STUPENDEUS!

  • LOL i just got chrono trigger a few days ago for the ds :D awsome game just wish there was more (what do they call it?) hammering? for levelups to get farther in the game.

  • Chrono Trigger, one of the best and most unique story in any RPG.

  • FFVII the most overated game Ever

  • @RSNCICREO

    the word "overrated" is overrated.

  • Secret of mana

  • Please let them release Suikoden 2 on the PSN!!!

  • @calitz87

    No shiet eh?

    I'm waiting for that too...

  • the Suikoden series was always fun

    cause of the number of characters you can get and how to get them...

    story wise though , FFVII gets it hands down

  • @anjireina

    only suikoden 1 and 2 was good.

    Every other one was just garbage.

  • @anjireina Suikoden 2 was awesome. liked it as much as FF7.

  • @anjireina Storywise, FFVII was terrible. An incoherent mess. Consider these:

    1. Sephiroth has no motive to kill Aerith, last Cetra, when his intent is to return planet to the Cetra.

    2. Tifa never corrects Cloud's flashback story even though she was actually there and knows its bullshit.

    3. There is no way on earth Aerith could have evaded the turks for 15 years when they know where she lives.

    I'm an English major, and these are mistakes only a truly bad writer could make. Absolutely putrid.

  • @LynnJynh9315 pretentious bastard, majoring in english isn't really that relevant...

  • @ashleyboyo69 That's the only thing you got out of my comment? It's not relevant? BULLSHIT! I've read more gold and crap in 3 months than most people read in their whole lives and I'm more than familiar with the art of storytelling and composition by now. FFVII's plot is shit... and that's about as relevant as it's ever going to get.

  • @LynnJynh9315 well aren't you special. ff7 plot is entirely subjective. nice open minded view there elitist retard

  • @ashleyboyo69 I've made my arguments against the game. I'd like to hear your argument now.

  • @ashleyboyo69 yeah, you tell em. ff7 such an overrated snorefest

  • the Suikoden series was always fun

    cause of the number of characters you can get and how to get them...

  • FF 7 FOREVER

  • Chrono Trigger is number one! I could still remember the time I first played it, trust me it made me cry.

  • man i think chrono trigger was the best rpg ever made.

  • but nice really nice rankings

  • for me XENOGEARS IS ALWAYS THE BEST

  • My personal best psx rpg is vagrant story.

  • you got a lot of snes games herem I don't blame you, the snes was just that good of a console

  • i hated how in chrono trigger maxim married, the general person, i think her name was selene, or sumnthing but it ruined my day...

  • i should definitely play the ones on here i havent played.

  • nice list

  • no castlevania sumphony of the night?

  • no xenogears ?

  • nice vid but i have a number one to top your's....final fantasy vii..modded...seriously the only game that beats ff7 is ff7 modded so that the world map/town character models are replaced by the ones you see in battles and cloud, both world/town and battle is replaced by the "high definition" cloud seen at the end of the game ;)

  • I think you made pretty good choice! Possible that this are really the best games, i liked them all! the only ones i can´t rate are chrono trigger and lufia!

    FF VII... What should i say... actually the best game =)

  • Good list. I do not agree with everything, but like you said, tastes are personal.

  • those games were epic and the best of all times, "next gen" console games specially rpg just sucks, they are better only in graphics & sound, but in story and gameplay the old ones rocks. a proof of that is final fantasy, since is square-enix (pussy main characters) FF sagas are getting worse and worse, square FF's were the best and so the 90's rpg games and some of ps2.

  • Why noone puts Threads of Fate to their favorite list :'(

  • Secret of Evermore.

  • Final Fantasy 7 shouldnt even be on the top 10... god damn fandom lol

  • I rly love ur list. In some points i dont agree. But this is personal taste. One thing... Zelda is no RPG... it´s an Adventure.

  • @vend3ttv It's An Action RPG. FF7 Has No Right To Be Up There. It's An Ok Game. One More Question Where's Earthbound?

  • @idoitproduckshuns U better keep checking ur sources man. Srsly I´m playing Zelda since I was 4. One thing is for sure, this game is no RPG (check that out in Wikipedia) it is and stays an Adventure... specially an Action-Adventure. So even if this game is awsome and also one of the best games I´ve ever played, therer is no space for this game in a RPG-Best of List.

  • @vend3ttv Wikipedia Is A Horrible Place To Get Info It Can Be Changed B6y Anyone.

    2.Zelda Has 3 Aspects That Come From RPGs.

    1.Inventory

    2.Health

    3.Dungeons

  • @idoitproduckshuns Those are 3 aspects which also have other games, which arent used to be a RPG. For me specially is important a skill-system (skill-tree) and more then one playable (or also non-playble computer played) character. Still Zelda imho is an Action-Adventure.

  • @vend3ttv Agreed. and no, not anyone can edit Wikipedia.

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  • Really Nice Vid... but.... ¿no ps2 rpgs?

  • did everyone forget about skies of arcadia???.. god i played the heck out of that game... amazing.

  • legend of dragoon is my favorite game

  • I dont get it why people call Zelda games an RPG's.

  • i like the music lol.. everyg ame has its own style

  • ok, i havent played that many rpgs, but heres my top 10:

    1. Pokemon-in general, all are pretty good although i like hgss the most

    2.Kotor

    3.Kotor 2

    4.Zelda, orcarina of time

    5.Fallout 3

    I haven't played games like final fantacy and mass effect so I can't comment and as for zelda a link to the past, when i was younger i only really played four swords and was naive enough not to play a link to the past much due to it's worse graphics so I can't comment on that either.

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  • My Best Are Console Game

    Final Fantasy 7,8,9, XAnd X-2

    Grandia

    Breath of fire 3,4

    Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross

    Suikoden 1,2

    Valkire Profile

    Secret Of Mana

    And More I forgot Srry :(

  • dude these are the games i grew up with! (:

  • @death9271 Same here for the majority of these games

    Although I missed out on some great ones

  • @death9271 what? the wii games? :D

  • Wow I think Secret of Mana is Better then Zelda link to the past because mana it is longer and has a better story line

  • huh. I'm surpised FFX isn't on here. I liked ff7 and ff8 alot too, but 9 and 10 were are aslo among my faves. (personally, I think ffx is the best they've ever done, but I haven't played 13 yet...)

    but yeah, ff7 is in my top 5. :)

  • Final Fantasy 7 was good but both FF3 and Chrono Trigger were far better.

  • Legend of the Dragoon was one of the most overrated games I have ever played.

  • i still have 10, 9, 6, 1. i used to have 7, 5. i havent played 8, 4, 3, 2. they are good games

  • I have too much best games to start a list

    valkyrie Profile

    Valkyrie Profile II

    Tales of Legendia

  • @conurebleu where's the damned problem with my list stupid youtube!

  • Tales of the Abyss Tales of Destiny Tales of Eternia Persona 3 Persona 4 Odin Sphere Kingdom Hearts The world ends with you Chrono trigger Eternal Sonata Star Ocean Till the end of time Tales of Phantasia Grandia II Grandia III Mana khemia
  • @conurebleu looks like my list was too long even if youtube said I still had 500 remainning characters -_-

  • best rpg i reckon is a game for the psp called technomage

  • these have to be the most _________ games ever list

  • I might as well list my top 5, since I'm sure everybody cares.

    5) Tales of Symphonia

    4) Final Fantasy IX

    3) Legend of the Dragoon

    2) Skies of Arcadia

    1) Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean

  • my granny pwnd at lufia

  • Xenogears, that's the list, enough said.

  • 10)Dragon Force

    9)Shining Force

    8)Legend of Zelda

    7)Breath of Fire 4

    6)Phantasy Star 2

    5)Suikoden 2

    4)Final Fantasy 7

    3)Valkyrie Profile

    2)DQ8

    1)Final Fantasy 6

  • @tojisuru31 dragonquest 8 was sweet.. good game, like the characters

  • 1) Final Fantasy 7

    2) Chrono Trigger

    3) Super Mario RPG

    4) Final Fantasy Tactics

    5) Jeanne D'Arc

  • Dragon Quest 8

    Tales Of Eternia

    tales of symphonia

    Star Ocean

    Kingdom hearts