best batmobile, best batman. i love how keaton dispenses justice. its FAIR. i meant, look at the poor guy screaming to death as hes lit on fire, and then batman comes through and lights that devil arsehole on fire. its so perfect, and eye for an eye!
@burtonrules123 I know right! The scene with it at the end of the TDKR trailer looks like a scene straight outta Transformers! And Keaton's Batmobile is indestructible!
If the only thing that comes to mind when watching Burtons Films is "I don't like them because batman "kills", then I'm sorry but you've missed the sheer brilliance of the other 99.9% of the movie
@MisterMeddle Killing Joke is perfectly fine. Hardly Alan Moore's best work, but it's a nice self-contained parable-type story within a story. And the art is great. It's out of continuity anyway
@MisterMeddle Even the Frank Miller Batman fails to kill The Joker in their final death struggle in DKR. Again, it's left deliberately ambiguous, but strongly suggested that the Joker takes his own life, having set up and framed Batman to take the fall for his murder, knowing that Bats would stop short of finishing him off once and for all.
@spike1138 I don't know what that has to do with my previous comment or how it proves me wrong. Obviously not everything will completely match the comics in live action. Not even the Christopher Nolan films follow the comics to a T. As people has said regarding the movies, they're separate stories that takes place in alternative universes. You have different authors/artists making changes with their own stories so why can't a movie director do the same with his Batman story?
@MisterMeddle Oh, he totally can, that wasn't my point at all - I just find it amusingly inconsistent, not least because he carries exclusively non-lethal ordnance on his person and on his utility belt in the two Burton films but has enormous miniguns and high-explosives pop out of the car. In fact, I hadn't even thought about it before, but yesterday I rewatched the Batwing scenes from the 89 movie where he machine guns The Joker and fires missiles at him but doesn't just stab him close up!
@spike1138 Why would Batman need to "stab" somebody if he is highly trained to take out or kill somebody with his own abilities? It's realistic for a Batman to lose his control and find the pleasure in the occasional kill. Just like a criminal found the pleasure in killing his parents. Even in the comics Batman doesn't always use a gun. He may knock somebody off a building and have him fall to his death, lock somebody in a room so he could starve for days and die, blow up a place, etc.
@MisterMeddle Because Batman believes in justice, not vengeance. He beats criminals into a bloody pulp, yes, but he leaves them for the cops, they get trials and then either get sent to Blackgate Prison or committed to Arkham. He doesn't administer justice, he just brings criminals *to* justice, which is why he works with Gordon and why he never kills the Joker, even when the Joker has murdered thousands.
@spike1138 Regardless of that Batman has killed many times in the post Miller continuity. Don't get me wrong I know he would rather deliver justice but Bruce Wayne/Batman isn't necessarily wired the same as your ordinary cop or citizen. He tends to lose his control occasionally and you know what happens.
@MisterMeddle I think the exact opposite is true, the modern Batman is the ultimate strategic thinker and most of his Eastern philosophy, marital arts and combat training has instilled in him an intense sense of inner restraint that in most situations causes him to act to disable rather than kill his opponents. That's not to say accidents don't happen, but his desire to "not be like them" probably means he's killed hundreds instead of thousands through his rigid self-discipline.
@spike1138 Actually a handful of the killings were anything but accidents. I know you'd rather think of Batman as someone that's in complete control of his mind but that's not always necessarily true. Batman IS known for losing control of his temper because, like all of us, he isn't perfect. There aren't any ways to justify it, Batman IS a cold blooded killer both on film and in the comics for the past 70 years. It is what it is. Hard to go back and change it.
@MisterMeddle If I did have an overall point, and I wasn't attempting to prove you wrong, even if the stories and events happen differently or don't happen in various different takes on Batman, if you change something fairly (but not universally) constant to the history of the character like that, is it really the character you want to work on? If he's going to use guns and kill people, you may as well just make another Punisher movie and put a cowl on him. Or a Midnighter movie.
@spike1138 The point of B89 was to take the character and universe back to it's roots which they successfully did. Tim Burton was mostly shown the earlier comics because that was the direction they wanted to take the overall film. Even Bob Kane himself had creative input and worked closely with Tim Burton. The killings weren't out of character. Like I said even to this day Batman occasionally kills, just like the Keaton Batman. Because he tends to lose control of his tempter due to his anger
@KidChaos878 But he refuses to kill the Joker under any circumstance... He's just okay immolating The Help? It's like Reginald D Hunter says, Batman is a fascist engaged in class warfare - he's a billionaire who spends his evenings beating up on poor people, muggers and crack dealers with hungry mouths to feed while spending his days lunching will fellow billionaires, movie stars and White collar criminals. But he sets carnies on fire? He's Patrick Bateman with better munitions. F**k Batman!
I love the way that Barman's strict personal code of ethics means that he does not kill or ever use a gun, bur he has no problem at all with setting clowns on fire by turning a flaming rocket booster on him! Clowns.... My God...
@spike1138 Do you even read the comics? The Burton films were based on the classic Detective Comics before the US government censored the comic book industry.... back when Batman didn't have a problem w/killing worthless scums. However, with Keaton's Batman, it was only the occasional kill. Regardless of that Batman has killed in EVER incarnation. Even in a number of recent comics. Batman #576, Batman #673, Detective Comics #814, Detective Comics 821... those are only a few examples.
@MisterMeddle I do, but Tim Burton didn't/doesn't. "Anyone who knows me, knows that I would never read a comic book".
Batman 673 is Joe Chill in Hell. He doesn't kill Joe Chill but leaves him the gun and scares him into *maybe* killing himself, but the whole thing takes place inside Batman's mind, so who knows if that even really happened.
Wasn't Batman borderline insane for the first of those Detective issues you mentioned? Like, more than he usually is.
@spike1138 All what you did was address only one of the examples (although there's the chance that he did kill Chill). Regardless of that there were a handful of times in the past continuity (before the DC relaunch) where they made it perfectly clear that Batman indeed killed. As for the Tim Burton quote, I believe it was a response to Kevin Smith's claim that Burton stole one of his ideas for one of his movies that wasn't Batman related. Burton even admitted to ENJOYING the Killing Joke. Hmm
@veganisextremelygood now the henchmen learned a valuable lesson about playing fire, since its snowy in gotham city he already take out the fire around his body lol
Best Batman, best Batmobile. Simple
CYBERDOODY 1 week ago
Хаха, бэтмен поджог дьявола.
Safarik94 1 week ago
Don't you just love all the random gadgets that this Batman has? :D
horaciosi 3 weeks ago 3
if u look closely the fire breather's fire didn't even reach him!
jeditoyreviewer 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
the fire breather was an idiot. Batman could've been in a volvo and he wouldn't have done shit to the car
LostNbound 1 month ago
best batmobile, best batman. i love how keaton dispenses justice. its FAIR. i meant, look at the poor guy screaming to death as hes lit on fire, and then batman comes through and lights that devil arsehole on fire. its so perfect, and eye for an eye!
burtonrules123 1 month ago
Man, Michael Keaton was truly hellacious as Batman! LOLOL How soon we forget.
redmondsmusic 2 months ago
smooth, quiet and sleek like batman not some big hulking tank. what were they thinking with the new movies?
Nasoj0Tnek 2 months ago
Best Batmobile ever, and from what I've seen from TDKR, Keaton's Batwing is much better than Bale's.
TheBatman101 2 months ago
@TheBatman101 did that even look like a batplane? more like a scorpion jet, leftover concets from the transformer crap movies.
burtonrules123 1 month ago
@burtonrules123 I know right! The scene with it at the end of the TDKR trailer looks like a scene straight outta Transformers! And Keaton's Batmobile is indestructible!
TheBatman101 1 month ago
I wouldn't give him a ticket for illegal parking.
Legba85 2 months ago
LMAO! i LOVE how he just sets that one dude on fire with the Batmobile
bofo85 2 months ago 2
FUNNY! AFTER KILLING JOKER IN THE FIRST MOVIE, BATMAN HAS MORE AND MORE CLOWNS TO DEFEAT. THESE CLOWNS SHOULD HAVE BEEN JOKER'S.
veganisextremelygood 2 months ago
BATMAN SHOULD HAVE MOVED THE BATMOBILE FURTHER BACKWARD BEFORE DEFEATING THE DEVIL BECAUSE THE DEVIL COULD HAVE THROWN HIS TORCH ON THE BATMOBILE.
veganisextremelygood 2 months ago
If the only thing that comes to mind when watching Burtons Films is "I don't like them because batman "kills", then I'm sorry but you've missed the sheer brilliance of the other 99.9% of the movie
rrrevan 3 months ago
Best. Batmobile. Ever.
GreekRoyalty 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle Killing Joke is perfectly fine. Hardly Alan Moore's best work, but it's a nice self-contained parable-type story within a story. And the art is great. It's out of continuity anyway
spike1138 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle Even the Frank Miller Batman fails to kill The Joker in their final death struggle in DKR. Again, it's left deliberately ambiguous, but strongly suggested that the Joker takes his own life, having set up and framed Batman to take the fall for his murder, knowing that Bats would stop short of finishing him off once and for all.
spike1138 3 months ago
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MisterMeddle 3 months ago
@spike1138 I don't know what that has to do with my previous comment or how it proves me wrong. Obviously not everything will completely match the comics in live action. Not even the Christopher Nolan films follow the comics to a T. As people has said regarding the movies, they're separate stories that takes place in alternative universes. You have different authors/artists making changes with their own stories so why can't a movie director do the same with his Batman story?
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle Oh, he totally can, that wasn't my point at all - I just find it amusingly inconsistent, not least because he carries exclusively non-lethal ordnance on his person and on his utility belt in the two Burton films but has enormous miniguns and high-explosives pop out of the car. In fact, I hadn't even thought about it before, but yesterday I rewatched the Batwing scenes from the 89 movie where he machine guns The Joker and fires missiles at him but doesn't just stab him close up!
spike1138 3 months ago
@spike1138 Why would Batman need to "stab" somebody if he is highly trained to take out or kill somebody with his own abilities? It's realistic for a Batman to lose his control and find the pleasure in the occasional kill. Just like a criminal found the pleasure in killing his parents. Even in the comics Batman doesn't always use a gun. He may knock somebody off a building and have him fall to his death, lock somebody in a room so he could starve for days and die, blow up a place, etc.
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle Because Batman believes in justice, not vengeance. He beats criminals into a bloody pulp, yes, but he leaves them for the cops, they get trials and then either get sent to Blackgate Prison or committed to Arkham. He doesn't administer justice, he just brings criminals *to* justice, which is why he works with Gordon and why he never kills the Joker, even when the Joker has murdered thousands.
spike1138 3 months ago
@spike1138 Regardless of that Batman has killed many times in the post Miller continuity. Don't get me wrong I know he would rather deliver justice but Bruce Wayne/Batman isn't necessarily wired the same as your ordinary cop or citizen. He tends to lose his control occasionally and you know what happens.
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle I think the exact opposite is true, the modern Batman is the ultimate strategic thinker and most of his Eastern philosophy, marital arts and combat training has instilled in him an intense sense of inner restraint that in most situations causes him to act to disable rather than kill his opponents. That's not to say accidents don't happen, but his desire to "not be like them" probably means he's killed hundreds instead of thousands through his rigid self-discipline.
spike1138 3 months ago
@spike1138 Actually a handful of the killings were anything but accidents. I know you'd rather think of Batman as someone that's in complete control of his mind but that's not always necessarily true. Batman IS known for losing control of his temper because, like all of us, he isn't perfect. There aren't any ways to justify it, Batman IS a cold blooded killer both on film and in the comics for the past 70 years. It is what it is. Hard to go back and change it.
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle If I did have an overall point, and I wasn't attempting to prove you wrong, even if the stories and events happen differently or don't happen in various different takes on Batman, if you change something fairly (but not universally) constant to the history of the character like that, is it really the character you want to work on? If he's going to use guns and kill people, you may as well just make another Punisher movie and put a cowl on him. Or a Midnighter movie.
spike1138 3 months ago
@spike1138 The point of B89 was to take the character and universe back to it's roots which they successfully did. Tim Burton was mostly shown the earlier comics because that was the direction they wanted to take the overall film. Even Bob Kane himself had creative input and worked closely with Tim Burton. The killings weren't out of character. Like I said even to this day Batman occasionally kills, just like the Keaton Batman. Because he tends to lose control of his tempter due to his anger
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
EPIC.. one of Batman's best "Im HERE!" moments
399wnka 4 months ago
@KidChaos878 But he refuses to kill the Joker under any circumstance... He's just okay immolating The Help? It's like Reginald D Hunter says, Batman is a fascist engaged in class warfare - he's a billionaire who spends his evenings beating up on poor people, muggers and crack dealers with hungry mouths to feed while spending his days lunching will fellow billionaires, movie stars and White collar criminals. But he sets carnies on fire? He's Patrick Bateman with better munitions. F**k Batman!
spike1138 4 months ago
If Gotham didn't have Batman then the city would have to call in the national guard.
TheNewRiflemanBob 4 months ago
I love the way that Barman's strict personal code of ethics means that he does not kill or ever use a gun, bur he has no problem at all with setting clowns on fire by turning a flaming rocket booster on him! Clowns.... My God...
spike1138 5 months ago
@spike1138 He hates clowns with a passion. No thanks to The Joker.
KidChaos878 4 months ago
@spike1138 Do you even read the comics? The Burton films were based on the classic Detective Comics before the US government censored the comic book industry.... back when Batman didn't have a problem w/killing worthless scums. However, with Keaton's Batman, it was only the occasional kill. Regardless of that Batman has killed in EVER incarnation. Even in a number of recent comics. Batman #576, Batman #673, Detective Comics #814, Detective Comics 821... those are only a few examples.
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
@MisterMeddle I do, but Tim Burton didn't/doesn't. "Anyone who knows me, knows that I would never read a comic book".
Batman 673 is Joe Chill in Hell. He doesn't kill Joe Chill but leaves him the gun and scares him into *maybe* killing himself, but the whole thing takes place inside Batman's mind, so who knows if that even really happened.
Wasn't Batman borderline insane for the first of those Detective issues you mentioned? Like, more than he usually is.
spike1138 3 months ago
@spike1138 All what you did was address only one of the examples (although there's the chance that he did kill Chill). Regardless of that there were a handful of times in the past continuity (before the DC relaunch) where they made it perfectly clear that Batman indeed killed. As for the Tim Burton quote, I believe it was a response to Kevin Smith's claim that Burton stole one of his ideas for one of his movies that wasn't Batman related. Burton even admitted to ENJOYING the Killing Joke. Hmm
MisterMeddle 3 months ago
Worst. Christmas. Ever.
spike1138 5 months ago
best batman movie by far :)
wildcat200586 6 months ago
STILL the greatest Batman movie ever made :P
AberGayGod 6 months ago 4
the guy who breaths fire has taste his own medicine lol
shaidaaneo 8 months ago 18
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@shaidaaneo he fucked his ass up.
SONIC29210 4 months ago
@shaidaaneo THAT GUY SHOULD BE THE NEW JERSEY DEVILS' MASCOT!
veganisextremelygood 2 months ago
@shaidaaneo HE WOULD HAVE DEFEATED BATMAN IF HE HAD THROWN HIS TORCH ON THE BATMOBILE!
veganisextremelygood 2 months ago
@veganisextremelygood now the henchmen learned a valuable lesson about playing fire, since its snowy in gotham city he already take out the fire around his body lol
shaidaaneo 2 months ago
@veganisextremelygood um, how could he have defeated the batmobile with a little torch? LOL the batmobile isflame proof.
burtonrules123 1 month ago
0:42 Have a nice TRIP! 0:49 See ya next FALL!
eaglesfan226 1 year ago
BEST SCENE!
boogieman323 1 year ago 11