The tension on the internet seems to come from Theists trying to prove God exists to atheists and when they fail they then ask the Athiests to prove God doesn't exist.
Why I'm an Atheist:- I always had questions when I was a kid and I was never truly satisfied with the given answers. As I grew older and I became aware of other faiths, then I thought to myself If I was born to:- a Hindu, a Sikh, a Muslim, a Jew, a Buddhist, an Aboriginal, a native American Indian, a Shinto family, a Taoist, an Akan family, a Scientologist etc. Wouldn't I just follow the family religion as most people do? If so then doesn't that make religion just an accident of birth?
I don't think there is a Messiah for athiesm you just look at the available evidence and decide for yourself is more likely or less likely that god(s) exist.
I don't hate any religion as such just some of the rules or beliefs they use to scare people e.g. In Christianity you go to hell if you don't belive, or in Islam the penalty for Apostasy is death.
Evolution, I think there's something in it cause there are so many animals that are extinct, that we know so very liitle about like the large Dinasaurs and Woolly Mamoths but are related to some of todays creatures.
I have no idea what the heck I am, but I don't believe in god or satan. I don't mind religious music if it's not something I consider boring, b/c some religious music just creeps me out! I've heard some pretty cool christian rock bands that I wouldn't mind listening to. I've always been scared of Ronald McDonald. I don't know if there's a specific religion I relate to. I was previously a VERY religious person (Catholic), married to one too. Don't believe in Apocalypse. I believe in afterlife.
Afterlife - There is no afterlife. When we die, we die and that is it.
Respect each other's views - I think we can and we should. But theists should stop forcing their ideas down other's throats - for example trying to subvert science education by trying to teach ID in science class.
1. Yes, I believe in evolution 2. None of them 3. Yes, of course, I would listen to good music, whoever the creator. 4. Full question was not visible, but anyway I like Hindu devotional songs. 5. No, I think all religions have good, bad and the ridiculous parts. 6. No, atheism is not a belief system. 7. I havent paid any attention to that case, so I cant say. 8. Some what. I started being skeptical around the age of 10 9. Yahweh 10. It is a lack of belief in any God, including JC
@rpk58 What is ID? Anyway, I totally agree with you on #5. I think that Theists as a whole, especially Christians, try and coat over the pissed off, vengeful God that was shown in the Old Testament with the stern but loving benevolence of Jesus Christ. Now, I tend to take the Bible literally, not on everything, but most things. And when it says something to the effect of "smite the crap out of those mothereffing heathens in my name", I'm pretty sure that's what they did.
@rpk58 Skepticism started at 16 for me. I didn't see the point behind a lot of stuff in Christianity. I was searching for answers and really, God just didn't fit into my plans. I did have a friend who did influence me during religious discussions. At 18 I can say I'm "confident in my spirituality". There's no fluff, no bible-thumping, heathen-hating, holy water spreading televangelist BS. I love God, and I love my fellow man and I believe that in unity we can do great things as people.
(con't) 14) I believe that eventually the Sun will be come a Red Giant and consume the Earth...I guess that counts as an apocolypse
15) Won't know until we die, eh?
16) To be honest, I'm the only Atheist I know personally, and no, I don't particularly care for her
17) Theists, in my opinion, they're so concerned that their religion is right that they just become really arrogant about it, making it that much more fun for us Atheists to make fun of them
2) Well, a good amount have to do with some flood anyway, so they all make no sense
3) I listen to "A Whisper and A Clamor" by Anberlin from time to time, so yeah
4) Can't think of any
5) I think they're all equally ridiculous, but if I had to choose: It's a 3 way tie with Christianity Judaism and Islam (They're all have the same god, just call it a different name, wtf is that?)
6) There is no messiah, we just wait to laugh at the next prediction for the rapture
@BruinsFan2347 5) I have to agree with you on part of that. Most Christians teenagers I know, and if you've ever been to the south...oh boy...they think Islam is the furthest thing from Christianity and that Muslims hate God and so on. But I will say those are the stupid ones. I had a conversation recently in my class about religion and drug use by famous composers like Mozart and Beethoven. Anyway, thanks for answering and making me laugh with some of those answers!
Part 2: 13) I have several religious friends but the last Christian I dated was close minded, hypocritical and always angry. Not so good. 14) The world will end when the sun dies in 5 billion years if we do not get whacked by an asteroid or comet. 15) Nothing. Which is sad and weird to think about. 16) Doesn't everyone? 17) Theists refuse to accept fact and cling to old stories, despite evidence to the contrary. They also try to damn atheists to hell, which I find amusing. 18) It just happened.
@elnoraemily Thanks for answering my questions. I do find that there a WAY too many hypocritical religious people, especially preachers and priests. I try not to judge people, b/c I struggle all the time. We're all human. And there's always a nice...juicy comet around to pimpslap us into oblivion, isn't there? I hear that evolution is proven 98%. Better than I can claim, but either way...I'm not damning anyone. We both could be wrong, although on your end only a 2% chance. Ciao!
1) Yes, I do. The amount of evidence is indisputable. 2) No creation story makes sense. 3) I listen to a few that claim to be religious. I love music of nearly any type. 4) Westboro Baptist. Scary, scary hymns. 5) Christianity, for the judgmental hypocrites I meet so often from that sect (not all, but many). 6) LOL. No. No Messiah. 7) It has some to mind before. 8) I was raised fundamental Baptist. 9) Poseidon. 10) Yes. But I do not believe he ever lived. 11) It's happened. 12) Probably.
1) Yes on evolution 2) Most: Catholicism Least: Ancient Greek 3) Yeah. Don't have a real problem with religious people. 4) None come to mind. 5) Scientology? But not really. To each their own. 6) Nope, no saviors for me...unless you count Richard Garfield. 7) All clowns are. 8) Yes. Highly Catholic. 9) Hades/Pluto. 10) Yes...It's sad. 11) Nope. 12) Possibly, turn around. 13) Yes, I don't hide from the religious. My friend who is sitting in the chair next to me is religious.
1. Yes I believe in evolution because it makes more sense then God and is PROVEN with EVIDENCE.
2. Hinduism - believing every living thing has an endless cycle of births and rebirths is just redundant to me. Christianity- Really? Created a man by dirt and a woman from his rib?
3. Yes I'm an open minded person, people can believe what they want, I don't care.
4. The most ridiculous religion, to me, is Scientology.
6. Yes, I grew-up in a Catholic home and attended church at least twice a month. Even went to a Catholic school.
7. Yes, most religious people think it's about the disbelief and total rejection of the Christian/Catholic God, portrayed in scripture, when it is really the rejection of every/any god.
8. Yes some of my friends are Catholic.
9. We believe when you die, you just rot in the ground. Most don't believe in any Apocalypse.
11. Yes, as soon as I really sat down and read the Bible. I decided I was officially an Atheist when I read the creation of earth, in Genesis.
12. No, I do not. Simply because there are a lot of ignorant people out their, who aren't tolerant of others belief systems and life choices. There will always be a Religion vs. Science world.
I made a reply video for any atheist or religious person, watch my "Dumb People Rule The World Video" 1:35-4:12 in that video talk about the argument presented by religious people, and how it is not applicable.
not trying to argue with anyone and looking for an honest answer, does anyone no why we have had a 7 day week for ever and why its never been changed to say 365 day week? now the bible says god created and rested in those seven days and established the week but any other sources out there where the seven day week comes from other then the bible? just wondering
@randial01 Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if comes from the Sumerians, Phoenicians, the Scandinavians, the Romans, who I believe established the calender we use to this day. I don't know WHY, but those are the first civilizations I know of accredited to organizing weeks, and days of the week and calenders.
(continued) As far as where the tension comes from--in all honesty, both sides. But in this country, Christians dominate and frankly, they try to legislate their religion. That's a flashpoint for atheists. I did not "decide" to become an atheist. I realized over time, that I didn't really believe in any gods. It's a long story. Can we live together? Only if theists can stop from trying to push their views on us and into government policy, and refrain from discriminating against us (continued).
@DandAinTac And thank you for taking the time to express some things to me. Although I am a Christian, I do not think myself better than anyone and I'm just trying to get some insight into what others believe and how they perceive the world. I think we shouldn't go too far either way, putting God into gov't is too much, because people use God to justify human bullcrap, but taking out some sort of general moral prerequisite is very bad too. Thank you again for answering my questions.
@DandAinTac we shouldn't push God into government as the go-to for laws, because our crooked politicians would find some way to twist things in their favor to make more money. But we also should have some standard for morality as well. We can't allow injustices to go on. Which...from what I've seen in comments posted on this video and others, many atheists are more concerned with their fellow man than many Christians out there, and that has to do with the people not the religion. :)
(continued). I'm not familiar with all Gods--there have been thousands of them, but the God of the Bible is a pretty nasty character. If you don't see that, read your Bible. As far as what most people associate atheism with, there are a lot of stereotypes. They see us as evil, immoral, anti-American, close-minded, Satanist, and so on. One of my best friends is very religious. I do not believe in an afterlife--that is wishful thinking. When we die, that's it. (continued)
An answer to some of your questions. I accept evolution as a sound scientific theory that best fits the facts that we see. However, this is not really related to atheism. You can be religious and accept evolution, or atheist and not accept evolution. Of the major religions Islam and Christianity are the worst, but they're all bad. There is no "messiah" of atheism--absurd question. Atheism is strictly a word that describes non-belief in any gods. I was once a Christian. (continued)
@theDudeAbides1100 i don,t think everybody can know! i am a christian that follows the 1611 king james bible, i don't use any other sources and i should say this is what i was brought up on.when i was about 15 i rebelled and got into trouble,drugs and pure misery and i don't attend any church right now. i see so many fake christian's and false profits that its hard for me to just want to believe in just any old fake church that pops people in the head and they fall backwards and are healed
@randial01 the bible never shows that those things were done and so there are many prosperity gospels that want your money for a miracle and when it don't work out that can make a believer an atheist fast, many deceiving religions, so right now i just try to learn biblical truths along with science and archaeology but not everyone can be right so not everyone can be sure they just believe they are
@randial01 That s*** is fake and it makes me sick. People are really looking for help and they are hurting. People think that going to church in itself will make them better. No. Really, we don't need churches or pastors. Pastors are like teachers, you could learn this and apply it on your own, but a teacher makes it a lot easier to understand. Pastors that promise healing are dumb because a human cannot heal. Doing stuff like that is almost tradition in some churches.
@SirAlaska yea i have many friends that don't believe in God, they know my beliefs and i know theirs,i have gave them my testimony so I don't try to change their views, they know what i think so we never talk about it much or it would just be an argument like on these video comments.I think atheists should remember that some Christians didn't believe in God before they read the bible, its just they see something in it that atheists don't see. Christians should remember that not everyone believe
@randial01 and most atheists know the bible and have heard the word and no matter how much talking we Christians do after they heard the word, they made their decision and don't want the Bible and God pushed on them anymore so whats the point? The bible says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling not arguing with atheists so.......good luck to you all and MERRY CHRISTMAS or ah santa day or ah whatever lol
@theDudeAbides1100 True in the analytical sense. It depends though. The three largest religions have the EXACT same God, but there are differences in worship, whether they believe there are messiahs, who is and is not a saint, and things like that. But about your comment, you can't be 100% sure until Judgment Days arrives, and if it never comes, you can sit in your grave and rot and never know any better. Life will go on and the dead will be forgotten as always.
@theDudeAbides1100 But really, as much as the end result of life is important for a religious person, the life they live is just as important. In many religions, if people lived the way their religion says--according to living with other people, this world would be an effing Utopia. But people are stupid, and shallow, and hateful and imperfect, so the religious ones of us who are GOOD PEOPLE just try to love and respect and do as best we can according to what we believe.
@akeello Very good question. I find these philosophical-type questions (asked by both sides of the debate) are particularly hard to answer. So I end up not trying to answer but just state what i believe in a friendly non-a**hole way. Anyways, I know next to nothing about the Quran, or the Torah, or any other well-known religious text from another faith besides my own. I should probably read up on some other faiths...
1) Evolution is not a religion - it is the best explanation we have to explain the diversity of life on our planet 2) None 3) I suppose 4) None 5) People are ridiculous. 6) No 7) ?? 8) I have a religious background and culture but I've never been religious 9) It is not a "who's the worst" contest 10) In all gods 11) ?? 12) Yes 13) This world will probably end, maybe because of man. 14) Unknown, probably no afterlife 15) I don't know who she is
@maotzetof Fortunately, I'm not stupid enough to think that Evolution is a religion, but maybe I made you think I did. But it IS a scientific system of thought, and what i mean by that is, because you look through Evolution to explain creation and the origins of man(yada yada yada) it will also influence other aspects of your life and how you view things. I hope i didn't just make myself look more stupid...anyways...I agree with you about man might be their own demise...
This is a semantical problem, you don't have to "believe" (in the sense of faith) in evolution. All the evidences are observable (fossils, paleothology, biology etc..). So they are facts. What can be argued is how we interpret them. But until now, nothing has been discovered to debunk evolution. Science, unlike religions, does not claim absolute knowledge.
A mistake some believers do is to apply their own system of thought on atheism with terms like "believe","faith" or "messiah".
@maotzetof Very true. I'm guilty of applying my own system of thought on a lot of things I should look at in a different way, but I'm working on that one.
We (athiests) don't "look through" evolution, it is just an answer on "how are we here ?". Not believing in a god does not mean you can't have a spirituality. It is not an ideology. A lot of believers accept evolution, faith dealing with their view on morality and "philosophical" questions. And atheists don't have any problem with them. I myself have some buddhist credos. So, yes an atheist can date a theist, and we all can live in respect.
Personally, I do believe in the Theory of Evolution. It is 98% proven.
I was raised as a true Christian, and I wish I knew more about other religions, but from what I know... I don't even halfway believe in any religion's theory on creation.
I might listen to the artist, depending on how religious their song lyrics are. I don't base my opinions off of religion.
I love Jewish music.
From growing up as one, both Christianity & any cults.
@ikeeln00bz i can definitely agree with theists getting obnoxious and unreasonable about atheism. Many close up when their faith is challenged mentally. They're stuck in the I'm right you're wrong mentality. Personally, I can't refute non-theist beliefs, but I certainly can't prove my own. Do I believe the basics, Jesus Christ dying and being resurrected? Yeah. Am I crazy? Possibly. But I'm not going to promote something as fact without personal proof. Could all this be a sham? Certainly.
@ikeeln00bz Hades is a boss and FINALLY someone agrees with me about ronald mcdonald. Also, I believe Christianity is a close second to Islam, but Christianity has the biggest "religious celebrity" if you will in Jesus Christ. And heck yeah, humanity seems to be going on a downward spiral, ever-so-slowly. We've lost respect for our common man, for those less fortunate, and we just generally don't friggin' care about each other anymore. That pisses me off.
I believe in evolution. But there is no "belief" to be made. It is a fact, it is only considered a theory because small details within it remain unsure.
The least clear thing to me about Creationism is the fact that a person was made out of a rib, and then they only had sons, and a human population was born from those sons. what?
yes I would listen to such an artist, and I have in the past.
I was raised Christian, so I know most about that, and I dislike it greatly. (to be continued nxt comment)
1) Yes I'd listen to a religious band if I liked it, unles the were tring to push an agenda that was moraly reprehensible to me.
2) Atheism has no Messiah, scripture or fixed moral codex other that what lies in the barrier of common sense and reason. Personally I believe we should all work together to deal with the problems this world has (such as overpopulation, global warming, lack of resources, world hunger and our economy).
3) And I think that the concept of an afterlife is childish.
@d007ization Do you live in the US? Because if you do, turn on Fox News or something and look at the Fundamentalist bullcrap Tea-Party presidential candidates who, coincidentally(not), are some of the most ridiculous and backwards thinking people I've ever seen. I mean, they said God caused the tornados of a couple of months ago to get our attention about the economy......WTF?!! Anyway, I believe we should work together, too. We should stop being a**holes and help each other help someone else.
Of course religious people and non-believers can live in peace together...
But I believe the solution to this is secularism. I live in Sweden (a very secular country) and I think the balance we have here works really well for all parts.
We have freedom of religion, but it religion has no place in the government.
@JessikaTheGamer Yeah...I heard that's how it is in Denmark, too. It definitely makes more sense than what we have in the US right now. Primarily, the country is religious. The primary religion is Christianity/Catholisism. Yet, we're pretty morally corrupt as a whole because nobody "lives by the good book", so to speak. The way Americans view religion, and God, as a whole, is pretty effed up. Then again, the way America views a lot of things as a whole is pretty effed up...
"Evidence. Evidence. Evidence." Click you heals three times and say that, then you shall have all your questions answered. Yes! It really is that simple!
All human being seek evidence/proof for everything EXCEPT their religious beliefs. All human beings agree that science is logical and reliable EXCEPT when it comes to you religion.
@AtheistActionNews People are afraid that they might find out they were wrong. When reason challenges faith too much, they shut down, and are afraid to go forward because it is uncomfortable for them.
If you are religious then you have a closed mind. Religious belief collapses when logic is applied to it. Evolution is scientific fact that is not a consequence of belief but of evidence - masses of it. All religions are as ludacris as each other. Atheism is a refutation of the notion of god and anything supernatural. A messiah is a religious concept. When we die, we die. Our matter decomposes. An afterlife is a belief for those who are unable to deal with their own mortality maturely.
@AtheistEutopia What I meant about not close-minded was that I'm not just "YOU'RE WRONG, YOU'RE WRONG!" over everything. Evolution has its merits. Do I believe all of it? No, I don't. But you'd have to be a fool to say it doesn't exist, and isn't occurring right now. How old is the world? Don't know. What standards are you measuring by? The human year? Prolly a bad idea. That is the religion of Christianity's mistake. It says that God created the world in seven days. That's definitely possible--
@SirAlaska --But I'm thinking that this. God isn't confined to time, so how can we measure a timeless being by human standards of days and years. The earth may very well by 4.2 billion years old, by human standards. You see where I'm going with this? Just my opinion. And you got me. There is quite a bit of evidence for evolution. And in some ways, that is what an afterlife is. For a lot of people, failure or unhappiness in this life means a hope for some ebullient rest in the next--
@SirAlaska If you belief an invisible sky fairy could create the Earth in 7 days then the existence of Santa Claus should never be open to your questioning. Both are as logical as the other.
@AtheistEutopia ....I never saw that coming. You're telling me my parent lied to me all these years?!! What I meant to continue with, was this: In MHO, God is a timeless being, so how can we constrict god to human measures of time? 4.2 billion years...years is a human measurement of time, and so is the day. Seven days could be 4.2 billion years. It depends on who's measurement of time we're using. Ours or God's? I think it's a matter of perception.
@SirAlaska " Seven days could be 4.2 billion years. It depends on who's measurement of time we're using. Ours or God's?"
Actually god gave us the measure of a day in genesis 1: 3-8. A day is dusk to morning to dusk again, the same day used by jews today. So god is REALLY telling us he made creation in 7 of these units( dusk, morning to dusk again). What puzzles me is that it took god longer to make the earth then it did the vast cosmos with is infinitely larger and more complex.
@SirAlaska "You're telling me my parent lied to me all these years?!! "
Well, if you are talking santa-yes the lied their butts off. If you are talking god- no, I do not think they intentionally lied to you, they believed what their parents told them who believed what their parents told them who believed........ It has become this chain and has been repeated so many times it is taken as fact.
@AtheistEutopia Evolution is not open to belief or disbelief. It is established scientific fact. People who choose not to recognise that are either deliberately or unintentionally ignorant. The evidence is overwhelming. The only issues with the theory are a few tiny gaps in the records that have resulted from evidence being accidentally destroyed through inexperienced excavation or superficial evidence having not been found yet (perhaps never will be).
Your "most important question". In my experience atheists can live with religious types, but it is an integral part of the religious peoples beliefs that they must have some sort of conflict, whether that is preaching, trying to enforce their morality on others, disowning non religious friends and family members etc..
Paul tells christians not to be "unequally yoked", but atheists generally would prefer just to get along, regardless of any inequality of yokage
@narco73 That's where many Christians fall off the path. Shoving our faith in people's faces. If somebody doesn't want to hear it, they don't want to hear it. Don't keep pestering people. Anyways, thanks for commenting.
@SirAlaska Yes. But I think you're missing some of it.
Imagine someone was standing in the middle of the road about to be hit by a truck. If they said "I don't want you telling me to move" you wouldn't just give up trying to save them. If they truly believe what they say then christians are obliged to shove their faith in peoples faces.
And then there is the fact that they will (usually) only know someone doesn't want to hear it if they have already tried, and already pestered them.
@narco73 I know where you coming from. The Bible instructs Christians to "share the good news" about Jesus Christ. But what I meant about shoving faith in people's faces was the "I am holier than thou", "I'm better than you" approach and mentality some Christians, especially the young adults, have. And you're a lot better at using analogies than I am...mine just turn out weird.
@SirAlaska Ha. Yes I agree with you about the "hollier than thou" syndrome. Being annoyed at those types probably first gave me the courage to question christianity.
I also know a number of families and relationships that have been torn apart by christianity. In no cases was it the non-religious members doing the tearing. Still, I suppose Jesus did literally teach you to hate your family members. (although most christians try to say this is not what he meant, even though it is what he said)
@narco73 Right again...I think I vaguely remember a verse where he is talking to his followers and he does tell them to hate their families and also to "die unto themselves" and also that they would suffer greatly for following his teachings. People like to put Jesus off as some happy-go-lucky guy, when in reality he was pretty much a eye-opening, take-no-s***, fiery-tongued, controversial type of dude. He wasn't nice in that sense. With him it was either this way or that way.
@SirAlaska I see him almost as a political cartoonist. He liked to say things that were kind of humorous in that they were not the normal way of looking at things, but they still had educational value. "hate your parents", "meek shall inherit the earth", "love your enemies" etc.
I also think Jesus was pretty much against religion. But then along came paul, and set up a religion in Jesus's name. Paul is the true founder of christianity (and interestingly, he never met jesus).
Any honest person that has examined the evidence should accept that evolution has occurred. The only people that I see denying it deny it because they believe things that they have no good basis for believing.
I like U2, they are heavily religious.
I was an atheist before I became religious. So were you. Now I am an educated atheist.
Many of my best friends are religious.
What happened before you were born? This happens again after you die.
Your agnostic friend is an atheist. I assume is doesn't have a belief that god exists? Then he is an atheist, he doesn't have to believe that god doesn't exist, just as long as he is not a theist, then he is an a-theist.
1)Yes 2)None, they all make no sense 3)Yes (assuming no lyrics) 4)I ignore the prayer and enjoy the music instead 5)No 6)Of course not, that's for religions 7)No, just a tool 8)Baptized & confirmed but not "religious" 9)Shiva 10)Yes 11)No, sometimes mistaken for being Buddhist 12)Things always look larger on YouTube 13)Yes 14)No 15)Lights out, no one home 16)Who? 17)Fundamentalist viewpoint 18)No 19)Anything is possible with an open mind :)
1/ Evolution is as true as any other scientific theory with mountains of evidence 2/ None, they all make unsuported and fantastic claims 3/ Yes 4/ Christian classical 5/ No 6/ No 7/ Don't know 8/ No 9/ Thor 10/ Don't know 11/ No 12/ Don't know 13/ No 14/ No 15/ Worm food 16/ Yes 17/ Don't know 18/ No, never indoctrinated 19/ No
1 Yes, I accept evolution 2 Deism the most, special creation the least 3 I'm a Stacie Orrico fan, that count? 4 Christian rap 5 Scientology 6 no 7... nah 8 yes, Baptist 9 Zeus 10 yes 11 only the hicks 12 honey, you look fine 13 yep 14 nope 15 The mind is what the brain does, when the mind goes... 16 doesn't come up 17 Government support of Christianity 18 It was several things 19 don't know about respecting views, but we can respect each other.
1. I believe 'that' evolution is the best explanation for the origin of species. 2.from the ones i know of, Christianity. 3.sure 4.Christianity worst and best 5Yes Mormonism, or Islam 6 NO 7 no, where is your evidence? 8> yes i was 9. Tezcatlipoca 10. Yes atheist dont believe JC was a god, But he might have existed. 11. no 12. no, they make u look gay. 13, Yes and Yes 14. yes and no. 15. I dont know but its likly a return to the same state before you existed. 16 ? 17 theists
2. I guess deism makes the most sense to me. The idea that a Japanese goddess peed the world into existence is probably the most bizarre I have heard of.
3. Religion is no factor in musical talent. :)
4. I’d had to say Islam.
5. Scientology gets a high score here.
6. No. No atheist messiah. :)
7. No idea.
8. I was a protestant, and from that I have gone through deism, pantheism, the belief that ‘god’ was a centre in my brain, and others.
Anyone hoping to find some philosophical/intellectual questions should turn back now. This isn't that serious, although some of the questions are serious, there not attacking Atheism or asking you to explain it. Thought I'd clear that up now.
In Europe Theists and Athiests get along quite fine It's no big deal at all, I think America will eventually catch up.
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The tension on the internet seems to come from Theists trying to prove God exists to atheists and when they fail they then ask the Athiests to prove God doesn't exist.
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Who's Rosy O' Donald and Is she related to Ronald Mc Donald ?
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No, I don't belive in world destruction and the afterlife.
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I've even had friends of different religions get married and start a families so it's no big deal over here.
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You'll have to ask a close friend about your jeans, cause unless they're close they ain't gonna be completely honest.
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In Europe people really don't care too much for religion as long as you ain't breaking the law get on with it.
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I think in the U.S.A people equate Atheism with being anti-christianity but in Europe where I'm from people thinks it's no big deal at all
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A bad-a** Deity would be one of the ones that required human sacrifice.
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Why I'm an Atheist:- I always had questions when I was a kid and I was never truly satisfied with the given answers. As I grew older and I became aware of other faiths, then I thought to myself If I was born to:- a Hindu, a Sikh, a Muslim, a Jew, a Buddhist, an Aboriginal, a native American Indian, a Shinto family, a Taoist, an Akan family, a Scientologist etc. Wouldn't I just follow the family religion as most people do? If so then doesn't that make religion just an accident of birth?
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Ronald Mc Donald, I don't know, bring your evidence to the police and let them decide.
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I don't think there is a Messiah for athiesm you just look at the available evidence and decide for yourself is more likely or less likely that god(s) exist.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
I don't hate any religion as such just some of the rules or beliefs they use to scare people e.g. In Christianity you go to hell if you don't belive, or in Islam the penalty for Apostasy is death.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
Worst religous music, ones with loud religous chanting.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
I would listen to a religous artist as long as they wasn't preaching in the music.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
Creation religions that make least sense to me, are the ones with god(s) that require sacrifice.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
Evolution, I think there's something in it cause there are so many animals that are extinct, that we know so very liitle about like the large Dinasaurs and Woolly Mamoths but are related to some of todays creatures.
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
I have no idea what the heck I am, but I don't believe in god or satan. I don't mind religious music if it's not something I consider boring, b/c some religious music just creeps me out! I've heard some pretty cool christian rock bands that I wouldn't mind listening to. I've always been scared of Ronald McDonald. I don't know if there's a specific religion I relate to. I was previously a VERY religious person (Catholic), married to one too. Don't believe in Apocalypse. I believe in afterlife.
iammetx 2 weeks ago
(contd)
11. I dont know, nobody has told me so.
I am skipping some questions
Afterlife - There is no afterlife. When we die, we die and that is it.
Respect each other's views - I think we can and we should. But theists should stop forcing their ideas down other's throats - for example trying to subvert science education by trying to teach ID in science class.
rpk58 1 month ago
rpk58 1 month ago
@rpk58 What is ID? Anyway, I totally agree with you on #5. I think that Theists as a whole, especially Christians, try and coat over the pissed off, vengeful God that was shown in the Old Testament with the stern but loving benevolence of Jesus Christ. Now, I tend to take the Bible literally, not on everything, but most things. And when it says something to the effect of "smite the crap out of those mothereffing heathens in my name", I'm pretty sure that's what they did.
SirAlaska 1 month ago
@rpk58 Skepticism started at 16 for me. I didn't see the point behind a lot of stuff in Christianity. I was searching for answers and really, God just didn't fit into my plans. I did have a friend who did influence me during religious discussions. At 18 I can say I'm "confident in my spirituality". There's no fluff, no bible-thumping, heathen-hating, holy water spreading televangelist BS. I love God, and I love my fellow man and I believe that in unity we can do great things as people.
SirAlaska 1 month ago
@SirAlaska Fair play. Nice video. Agnostics are better than atheists!! hehe ;)
ummmerrrrummm 2 weeks ago
@ummmerrrrummm Well, I wouldn't know about that, but thanks for watching my video. I appreciate it!
SirAlaska 2 weeks ago
@rpk58 And uh, thanks for commenting and watching the video. I appreciate you answering the questions. Ciao!
: D
SirAlaska 1 month ago
(con't) 19) Nope. Too many Theists are too close-minded for that to happen.
btw, 18 was a total joke answer xD, but other than that, I hope you find these useful
BruinsFan2347 1 month ago
(con't) 14) I believe that eventually the Sun will be come a Red Giant and consume the Earth...I guess that counts as an apocolypse
15) Won't know until we die, eh?
16) To be honest, I'm the only Atheist I know personally, and no, I don't particularly care for her
17) Theists, in my opinion, they're so concerned that their religion is right that they just become really arrogant about it, making it that much more fun for us Atheists to make fun of them
18) I found out Santa wasn't real :(
BruinsFan2347 1 month ago
(con't) 7) No, he is a lovable clown by day, then at night he obviously becomes The Joker
8) I was baptised as a Catholic, but never really attended a Mass, so, I'll let you decide
9) Zeus...that dude wasa playa, man \m/
10) In my experience, that is the case (granted I mostly argue with Christians though xD)
11) Well, if they do they don't let me know
12) NO, OF COURSE NOT
13) Yes, I have a couple of highly Catholic friends
BruinsFan2347 1 month ago
1) Yes I do believe in evolution
2) Well, a good amount have to do with some flood anyway, so they all make no sense
3) I listen to "A Whisper and A Clamor" by Anberlin from time to time, so yeah
4) Can't think of any
5) I think they're all equally ridiculous, but if I had to choose: It's a 3 way tie with Christianity Judaism and Islam (They're all have the same god, just call it a different name, wtf is that?)
6) There is no messiah, we just wait to laugh at the next prediction for the rapture
BruinsFan2347 1 month ago
@BruinsFan2347 5) I have to agree with you on part of that. Most Christians teenagers I know, and if you've ever been to the south...oh boy...they think Islam is the furthest thing from Christianity and that Muslims hate God and so on. But I will say those are the stupid ones. I had a conversation recently in my class about religion and drug use by famous composers like Mozart and Beethoven. Anyway, thanks for answering and making me laugh with some of those answers!
SirAlaska 1 month ago
Part 3- 19) Sure. It could happen.
elnoraemily 1 month ago
Part 2: 13) I have several religious friends but the last Christian I dated was close minded, hypocritical and always angry. Not so good. 14) The world will end when the sun dies in 5 billion years if we do not get whacked by an asteroid or comet. 15) Nothing. Which is sad and weird to think about. 16) Doesn't everyone? 17) Theists refuse to accept fact and cling to old stories, despite evidence to the contrary. They also try to damn atheists to hell, which I find amusing. 18) It just happened.
elnoraemily 1 month ago
@elnoraemily Thanks for answering my questions. I do find that there a WAY too many hypocritical religious people, especially preachers and priests. I try not to judge people, b/c I struggle all the time. We're all human. And there's always a nice...juicy comet around to pimpslap us into oblivion, isn't there? I hear that evolution is proven 98%. Better than I can claim, but either way...I'm not damning anyone. We both could be wrong, although on your end only a 2% chance. Ciao!
SirAlaska 1 month ago
1) Yes, I do. The amount of evidence is indisputable. 2) No creation story makes sense. 3) I listen to a few that claim to be religious. I love music of nearly any type. 4) Westboro Baptist. Scary, scary hymns. 5) Christianity, for the judgmental hypocrites I meet so often from that sect (not all, but many). 6) LOL. No. No Messiah. 7) It has some to mind before. 8) I was raised fundamental Baptist. 9) Poseidon. 10) Yes. But I do not believe he ever lived. 11) It's happened. 12) Probably.
elnoraemily 1 month ago
wrath1dragon 1 month ago
14) Nope, I don't believe in the appocalypse and the thought of the absence of afterlife scares me.
15) Scares the shit out of me.
16) Everyone I know hates Rosie O'Donald.
17) Both. Misunderstandings abound. Also, some Theists and Atheists view it as their mission to convert others.
18) Too personal to answer.
19) Yeah. It all starts with respect for one another, if you do that, viewpoints are no problem. If you're an ass, then no.
Hope this helps.
wrath1dragon 1 month ago
@wrath1dragon Thanks for answering my questions and good day to you...or night...or afternoon...whichever one it is.
SirAlaska 1 month ago
1. Yes I believe in evolution because it makes more sense then God and is PROVEN with EVIDENCE.
2. Hinduism - believing every living thing has an endless cycle of births and rebirths is just redundant to me. Christianity- Really? Created a man by dirt and a woman from his rib?
3. Yes I'm an open minded person, people can believe what they want, I don't care.
4. The most ridiculous religion, to me, is Scientology.
5. No, there is no "Messiah" of Atheism
christyr3898 1 month ago
@christyr3898 (Continued)
6. Yes, I grew-up in a Catholic home and attended church at least twice a month. Even went to a Catholic school.
7. Yes, most religious people think it's about the disbelief and total rejection of the Christian/Catholic God, portrayed in scripture, when it is really the rejection of every/any god.
8. Yes some of my friends are Catholic.
9. We believe when you die, you just rot in the ground. Most don't believe in any Apocalypse.
10. Tension comes from both sides.
christyr3898 1 month ago
@christyr3898 (Continued)
11. Yes, as soon as I really sat down and read the Bible. I decided I was officially an Atheist when I read the creation of earth, in Genesis.
12. No, I do not. Simply because there are a lot of ignorant people out their, who aren't tolerant of others belief systems and life choices. There will always be a Religion vs. Science world.
christyr3898 1 month ago
@christyr3898 thanks for taking the time to answer my questions!
SirAlaska 1 month ago
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I made a reply video for any atheist or religious person, watch my "Dumb People Rule The World Video" 1:35-4:12 in that video talk about the argument presented by religious people, and how it is not applicable.
AlexAlln09 2 months ago
not trying to argue with anyone and looking for an honest answer, does anyone no why we have had a 7 day week for ever and why its never been changed to say 365 day week? now the bible says god created and rested in those seven days and established the week but any other sources out there where the seven day week comes from other then the bible? just wondering
randial01 2 months ago
@randial01 Well, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if comes from the Sumerians, Phoenicians, the Scandinavians, the Romans, who I believe established the calender we use to this day. I don't know WHY, but those are the first civilizations I know of accredited to organizing weeks, and days of the week and calenders.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
@SirAlaska thanks for the reply!
randial01 2 months ago
@randial01 sure thing. i posted this video for people to talk about and for me to talk to them. thanks for commenting in the first place.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
(continued). Thank you for your honest questions. A lot of these would really require far more explanation, but this is a start.
DandAinTac 2 months ago
(continued) As far as where the tension comes from--in all honesty, both sides. But in this country, Christians dominate and frankly, they try to legislate their religion. That's a flashpoint for atheists. I did not "decide" to become an atheist. I realized over time, that I didn't really believe in any gods. It's a long story. Can we live together? Only if theists can stop from trying to push their views on us and into government policy, and refrain from discriminating against us (continued).
DandAinTac 2 months ago
@DandAinTac And thank you for taking the time to express some things to me. Although I am a Christian, I do not think myself better than anyone and I'm just trying to get some insight into what others believe and how they perceive the world. I think we shouldn't go too far either way, putting God into gov't is too much, because people use God to justify human bullcrap, but taking out some sort of general moral prerequisite is very bad too. Thank you again for answering my questions.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
@DandAinTac we shouldn't push God into government as the go-to for laws, because our crooked politicians would find some way to twist things in their favor to make more money. But we also should have some standard for morality as well. We can't allow injustices to go on. Which...from what I've seen in comments posted on this video and others, many atheists are more concerned with their fellow man than many Christians out there, and that has to do with the people not the religion. :)
SirAlaska 2 months ago
(continued). I'm not familiar with all Gods--there have been thousands of them, but the God of the Bible is a pretty nasty character. If you don't see that, read your Bible. As far as what most people associate atheism with, there are a lot of stereotypes. They see us as evil, immoral, anti-American, close-minded, Satanist, and so on. One of my best friends is very religious. I do not believe in an afterlife--that is wishful thinking. When we die, that's it. (continued)
DandAinTac 2 months ago
An answer to some of your questions. I accept evolution as a sound scientific theory that best fits the facts that we see. However, this is not really related to atheism. You can be religious and accept evolution, or atheist and not accept evolution. Of the major religions Islam and Christianity are the worst, but they're all bad. There is no "messiah" of atheism--absurd question. Atheism is strictly a word that describes non-belief in any gods. I was once a Christian. (continued)
DandAinTac 2 months ago
question for any religious person: how can you be so sure you are following the right religion? 1 in 200 chance you are right
theDudeAbides1100 2 months ago
@theDudeAbides1100 i don,t think everybody can know! i am a christian that follows the 1611 king james bible, i don't use any other sources and i should say this is what i was brought up on.when i was about 15 i rebelled and got into trouble,drugs and pure misery and i don't attend any church right now. i see so many fake christian's and false profits that its hard for me to just want to believe in just any old fake church that pops people in the head and they fall backwards and are healed
randial01 2 months ago
@randial01 the bible never shows that those things were done and so there are many prosperity gospels that want your money for a miracle and when it don't work out that can make a believer an atheist fast, many deceiving religions, so right now i just try to learn biblical truths along with science and archaeology but not everyone can be right so not everyone can be sure they just believe they are
randial01 2 months ago
@randial01 That s*** is fake and it makes me sick. People are really looking for help and they are hurting. People think that going to church in itself will make them better. No. Really, we don't need churches or pastors. Pastors are like teachers, you could learn this and apply it on your own, but a teacher makes it a lot easier to understand. Pastors that promise healing are dumb because a human cannot heal. Doing stuff like that is almost tradition in some churches.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
@SirAlaska yea i have many friends that don't believe in God, they know my beliefs and i know theirs,i have gave them my testimony so I don't try to change their views, they know what i think so we never talk about it much or it would just be an argument like on these video comments.I think atheists should remember that some Christians didn't believe in God before they read the bible, its just they see something in it that atheists don't see. Christians should remember that not everyone believe
randial01 2 months ago
@randial01 and most atheists know the bible and have heard the word and no matter how much talking we Christians do after they heard the word, they made their decision and don't want the Bible and God pushed on them anymore so whats the point? The bible says to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling not arguing with atheists so.......good luck to you all and MERRY CHRISTMAS or ah santa day or ah whatever lol
randial01 2 months ago
@randial01 And Merry Christmas to you friend.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
@theDudeAbides1100 True in the analytical sense. It depends though. The three largest religions have the EXACT same God, but there are differences in worship, whether they believe there are messiahs, who is and is not a saint, and things like that. But about your comment, you can't be 100% sure until Judgment Days arrives, and if it never comes, you can sit in your grave and rot and never know any better. Life will go on and the dead will be forgotten as always.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
@theDudeAbides1100 But really, as much as the end result of life is important for a religious person, the life they live is just as important. In many religions, if people lived the way their religion says--according to living with other people, this world would be an effing Utopia. But people are stupid, and shallow, and hateful and imperfect, so the religious ones of us who are GOOD PEOPLE just try to love and respect and do as best we can according to what we believe.
SirAlaska 2 months ago
ALLAH asking the atheist these questions in the QURAN in chapter 52 verse 35:
"Were they created of nothing,
or were they the creators [of themselves]? 35 "
=> for more type in google "TheDeenShow"
akeello 3 months ago
@akeello Very good question. I find these philosophical-type questions (asked by both sides of the debate) are particularly hard to answer. So I end up not trying to answer but just state what i believe in a friendly non-a**hole way. Anyways, I know next to nothing about the Quran, or the Torah, or any other well-known religious text from another faith besides my own. I should probably read up on some other faiths...
SirAlaska 3 months ago
maotzetof 3 months ago
@maotzetof Fortunately, I'm not stupid enough to think that Evolution is a religion, but maybe I made you think I did. But it IS a scientific system of thought, and what i mean by that is, because you look through Evolution to explain creation and the origins of man(yada yada yada) it will also influence other aspects of your life and how you view things. I hope i didn't just make myself look more stupid...anyways...I agree with you about man might be their own demise...
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska
This is a semantical problem, you don't have to "believe" (in the sense of faith) in evolution. All the evidences are observable (fossils, paleothology, biology etc..). So they are facts. What can be argued is how we interpret them. But until now, nothing has been discovered to debunk evolution. Science, unlike religions, does not claim absolute knowledge.
A mistake some believers do is to apply their own system of thought on atheism with terms like "believe","faith" or "messiah".
maotzetof 3 months ago
@maotzetof Very true. I'm guilty of applying my own system of thought on a lot of things I should look at in a different way, but I'm working on that one.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska
You should not feel guilty, it is in the human nature to compare things with something familiar.
maotzetof 3 months ago
@SirAlaska
Never said you looked stupid.
We (athiests) don't "look through" evolution, it is just an answer on "how are we here ?". Not believing in a god does not mean you can't have a spirituality. It is not an ideology. A lot of believers accept evolution, faith dealing with their view on morality and "philosophical" questions. And atheists don't have any problem with them. I myself have some buddhist credos. So, yes an atheist can date a theist, and we all can live in respect.
maotzetof 3 months ago
Personally, I do believe in the Theory of Evolution. It is 98% proven.
I was raised as a true Christian, and I wish I knew more about other religions, but from what I know... I don't even halfway believe in any religion's theory on creation.
I might listen to the artist, depending on how religious their song lyrics are. I don't base my opinions off of religion.
I love Jewish music.
From growing up as one, both Christianity & any cults.
No, there's no Messiah as an athiest..
Yes, I was.
singer2477 3 months ago
if there is an afterlife, then it's unknown.
I think the tension comes from taboo of atheism and indoctrination of ideas that support the taboo
my atheism happened on its own.
certain theists and atheists respect eachothers' views, but it's fairly often that theists get obnoxious and unreasonable about atheism.
ikeeln00bz 3 months ago
@ikeeln00bz i can definitely agree with theists getting obnoxious and unreasonable about atheism. Many close up when their faith is challenged mentally. They're stuck in the I'm right you're wrong mentality. Personally, I can't refute non-theist beliefs, but I certainly can't prove my own. Do I believe the basics, Jesus Christ dying and being resurrected? Yeah. Am I crazy? Possibly. But I'm not going to promote something as fact without personal proof. Could all this be a sham? Certainly.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
nope, no messiah for atheists,
ronald mcdonald is a fiend
I was a christian, not a devoted one but I did believe.
Hades
I think most relate it to a lack of christianity, yes, because it is one of the largest religions on earth.
generally not mistaken for a laveyan satanists, most are too uneducated to know such a thing exists
yes I do have religiosn friends and I have dated someone religious
no I do not, humanity will put an end to itself perhaps
afterlife: there is none, to me. if there is...
ikeeln00bz 3 months ago
@ikeeln00bz Hades is a boss and FINALLY someone agrees with me about ronald mcdonald. Also, I believe Christianity is a close second to Islam, but Christianity has the biggest "religious celebrity" if you will in Jesus Christ. And heck yeah, humanity seems to be going on a downward spiral, ever-so-slowly. We've lost respect for our common man, for those less fortunate, and we just generally don't friggin' care about each other anymore. That pisses me off.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
I believe in evolution. But there is no "belief" to be made. It is a fact, it is only considered a theory because small details within it remain unsure.
The least clear thing to me about Creationism is the fact that a person was made out of a rib, and then they only had sons, and a human population was born from those sons. what?
yes I would listen to such an artist, and I have in the past.
I was raised Christian, so I know most about that, and I dislike it greatly. (to be continued nxt comment)
ikeeln00bz 3 months ago
1) Yes I'd listen to a religious band if I liked it, unles the were tring to push an agenda that was moraly reprehensible to me.
2) Atheism has no Messiah, scripture or fixed moral codex other that what lies in the barrier of common sense and reason. Personally I believe we should all work together to deal with the problems this world has (such as overpopulation, global warming, lack of resources, world hunger and our economy).
3) And I think that the concept of an afterlife is childish.
d007ization 3 months ago
@d007ization Do you live in the US? Because if you do, turn on Fox News or something and look at the Fundamentalist bullcrap Tea-Party presidential candidates who, coincidentally(not), are some of the most ridiculous and backwards thinking people I've ever seen. I mean, they said God caused the tornados of a couple of months ago to get our attention about the economy......WTF?!! Anyway, I believe we should work together, too. We should stop being a**holes and help each other help someone else.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
Of course religious people and non-believers can live in peace together...
But I believe the solution to this is secularism. I live in Sweden (a very secular country) and I think the balance we have here works really well for all parts.
We have freedom of religion, but it religion has no place in the government.
JessikaTheGamer 3 months ago
@JessikaTheGamer Yeah...I heard that's how it is in Denmark, too. It definitely makes more sense than what we have in the US right now. Primarily, the country is religious. The primary religion is Christianity/Catholisism. Yet, we're pretty morally corrupt as a whole because nobody "lives by the good book", so to speak. The way Americans view religion, and God, as a whole, is pretty effed up. Then again, the way America views a lot of things as a whole is pretty effed up...
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska I'm glad you're openminded and reasonable, it's a relief
ikeeln00bz 3 months ago
"Evidence. Evidence. Evidence." Click you heals three times and say that, then you shall have all your questions answered. Yes! It really is that simple!
All human being seek evidence/proof for everything EXCEPT their religious beliefs. All human beings agree that science is logical and reliable EXCEPT when it comes to you religion.
Ask yourself why that is.
AtheistActionNews 3 months ago
@AtheistActionNews People are afraid that they might find out they were wrong. When reason challenges faith too much, they shut down, and are afraid to go forward because it is uncomfortable for them.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
If you are religious then you have a closed mind. Religious belief collapses when logic is applied to it. Evolution is scientific fact that is not a consequence of belief but of evidence - masses of it. All religions are as ludacris as each other. Atheism is a refutation of the notion of god and anything supernatural. A messiah is a religious concept. When we die, we die. Our matter decomposes. An afterlife is a belief for those who are unable to deal with their own mortality maturely.
AtheistEutopia 3 months ago
@AtheistEutopia What I meant about not close-minded was that I'm not just "YOU'RE WRONG, YOU'RE WRONG!" over everything. Evolution has its merits. Do I believe all of it? No, I don't. But you'd have to be a fool to say it doesn't exist, and isn't occurring right now. How old is the world? Don't know. What standards are you measuring by? The human year? Prolly a bad idea. That is the religion of Christianity's mistake. It says that God created the world in seven days. That's definitely possible--
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska --But I'm thinking that this. God isn't confined to time, so how can we measure a timeless being by human standards of days and years. The earth may very well by 4.2 billion years old, by human standards. You see where I'm going with this? Just my opinion. And you got me. There is quite a bit of evidence for evolution. And in some ways, that is what an afterlife is. For a lot of people, failure or unhappiness in this life means a hope for some ebullient rest in the next--
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska --Thanks for commenting on the video with intelligence. Everyone so far has. Ciao!
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska If you belief an invisible sky fairy could create the Earth in 7 days then the existence of Santa Claus should never be open to your questioning. Both are as logical as the other.
AtheistEutopia 3 months ago
@AtheistEutopia Whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up....Santa Clause is not real?
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@AtheistEutopia ....I never saw that coming. You're telling me my parent lied to me all these years?!! What I meant to continue with, was this: In MHO, God is a timeless being, so how can we constrict god to human measures of time? 4.2 billion years...years is a human measurement of time, and so is the day. Seven days could be 4.2 billion years. It depends on who's measurement of time we're using. Ours or God's? I think it's a matter of perception.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska " Seven days could be 4.2 billion years. It depends on who's measurement of time we're using. Ours or God's?"
Actually god gave us the measure of a day in genesis 1: 3-8. A day is dusk to morning to dusk again, the same day used by jews today. So god is REALLY telling us he made creation in 7 of these units( dusk, morning to dusk again). What puzzles me is that it took god longer to make the earth then it did the vast cosmos with is infinitely larger and more complex.
TheAtheistJones 3 months ago
@SirAlaska "You're telling me my parent lied to me all these years?!! "
Well, if you are talking santa-yes the lied their butts off. If you are talking god- no, I do not think they intentionally lied to you, they believed what their parents told them who believed what their parents told them who believed........ It has become this chain and has been repeated so many times it is taken as fact.
TheAtheistJones 3 months ago
@SirAlaska My friend, you've invented a whole new fairy story. Good luck with it.
AtheistEutopia 3 months ago
@AtheistEutopia Evolution is not open to belief or disbelief. It is established scientific fact. People who choose not to recognise that are either deliberately or unintentionally ignorant. The evidence is overwhelming. The only issues with the theory are a few tiny gaps in the records that have resulted from evidence being accidentally destroyed through inexperienced excavation or superficial evidence having not been found yet (perhaps never will be).
AtheistEutopia 3 months ago
Your "most important question". In my experience atheists can live with religious types, but it is an integral part of the religious peoples beliefs that they must have some sort of conflict, whether that is preaching, trying to enforce their morality on others, disowning non religious friends and family members etc..
Paul tells christians not to be "unequally yoked", but atheists generally would prefer just to get along, regardless of any inequality of yokage
cheers.
narco73 3 months ago
@narco73 That's where many Christians fall off the path. Shoving our faith in people's faces. If somebody doesn't want to hear it, they don't want to hear it. Don't keep pestering people. Anyways, thanks for commenting.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska Yes. But I think you're missing some of it.
Imagine someone was standing in the middle of the road about to be hit by a truck. If they said "I don't want you telling me to move" you wouldn't just give up trying to save them. If they truly believe what they say then christians are obliged to shove their faith in peoples faces.
And then there is the fact that they will (usually) only know someone doesn't want to hear it if they have already tried, and already pestered them.
narco73 3 months ago
@narco73 I know where you coming from. The Bible instructs Christians to "share the good news" about Jesus Christ. But what I meant about shoving faith in people's faces was the "I am holier than thou", "I'm better than you" approach and mentality some Christians, especially the young adults, have. And you're a lot better at using analogies than I am...mine just turn out weird.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska Ha. Yes I agree with you about the "hollier than thou" syndrome. Being annoyed at those types probably first gave me the courage to question christianity.
I also know a number of families and relationships that have been torn apart by christianity. In no cases was it the non-religious members doing the tearing. Still, I suppose Jesus did literally teach you to hate your family members. (although most christians try to say this is not what he meant, even though it is what he said)
narco73 3 months ago
@narco73 Right again...I think I vaguely remember a verse where he is talking to his followers and he does tell them to hate their families and also to "die unto themselves" and also that they would suffer greatly for following his teachings. People like to put Jesus off as some happy-go-lucky guy, when in reality he was pretty much a eye-opening, take-no-s***, fiery-tongued, controversial type of dude. He wasn't nice in that sense. With him it was either this way or that way.
SirAlaska 3 months ago
@SirAlaska I see him almost as a political cartoonist. He liked to say things that were kind of humorous in that they were not the normal way of looking at things, but they still had educational value. "hate your parents", "meek shall inherit the earth", "love your enemies" etc.
I also think Jesus was pretty much against religion. But then along came paul, and set up a religion in Jesus's name. Paul is the true founder of christianity (and interestingly, he never met jesus).
narco73 3 months ago
Any honest person that has examined the evidence should accept that evolution has occurred. The only people that I see denying it deny it because they believe things that they have no good basis for believing.
I like U2, they are heavily religious.
I was an atheist before I became religious. So were you. Now I am an educated atheist.
Many of my best friends are religious.
What happened before you were born? This happens again after you die.
narco73 3 months ago
Your agnostic friend is an atheist. I assume is doesn't have a belief that god exists? Then he is an atheist, he doesn't have to believe that god doesn't exist, just as long as he is not a theist, then he is an a-theist.
narco73 3 months ago
1)Yes 2)None, they all make no sense 3)Yes (assuming no lyrics) 4)I ignore the prayer and enjoy the music instead 5)No 6)Of course not, that's for religions 7)No, just a tool 8)Baptized & confirmed but not "religious" 9)Shiva 10)Yes 11)No, sometimes mistaken for being Buddhist 12)Things always look larger on YouTube 13)Yes 14)No 15)Lights out, no one home 16)Who? 17)Fundamentalist viewpoint 18)No 19)Anything is possible with an open mind :)
krakendahed 3 months ago
gph61 3 months ago
1 Yes, I accept evolution 2 Deism the most, special creation the least 3 I'm a Stacie Orrico fan, that count? 4 Christian rap 5 Scientology 6 no 7... nah 8 yes, Baptist 9 Zeus 10 yes 11 only the hicks 12 honey, you look fine 13 yep 14 nope 15 The mind is what the brain does, when the mind goes... 16 doesn't come up 17 Government support of Christianity 18 It was several things 19 don't know about respecting views, but we can respect each other.
DarkEmergence 3 months ago
Greathiway 3 months ago
15. We die. Our bodies stop working, and we shut down. To me, there’s nothing more to it.
16. :P
17. Since some religions have been guilty of setting up an us vs. them mentality, I have to say that religion is guilty of most of the tension.
18. Something my priest said did make me think. But it didn’t make me an atheist in a heart beat. That took months of thought.
19. In isolated cases, like as I see in Denmark where I come from, yes, it’s possible. Globally, afraid not. :( But hope so.
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jillum89 3 months ago
@jillum89 ha ha. Thanks for answering. Darn. I was kind of hoping for an ultra-awesome Atheist messiah. No dice I guess, huh? Ciao!
SirAlaska 3 months ago
9. Yahweh of the OT. I have never heard of other gods who damn entire species, destroy all life on Earth and kill children to prove a point.
10. I hear many say that either the Christian god exists, or no gods exist. They do set up this dichotomy, yes.
11. Not so far.
12. Only God judges. ;)
13. I have some religious friends, and friends with other supernatural beliefs.
14. Well, one day – when the sun dies – the Earth will be destroyed. I don’t call that ‘apocalypse’, though.
jillum89 3 months ago
1. Yes. I think evolution is a fact.
2. I guess deism makes the most sense to me. The idea that a Japanese goddess peed the world into existence is probably the most bizarre I have heard of.
3. Religion is no factor in musical talent. :)
4. I’d had to say Islam.
5. Scientology gets a high score here.
6. No. No atheist messiah. :)
7. No idea.
8. I was a protestant, and from that I have gone through deism, pantheism, the belief that ‘god’ was a centre in my brain, and others.
jillum89 3 months ago
Anyone hoping to find some philosophical/intellectual questions should turn back now. This isn't that serious, although some of the questions are serious, there not attacking Atheism or asking you to explain it. Thought I'd clear that up now.
SirAlaska 3 months ago