I'm a Fireman and my health insurance is provided through the state of Ohio. But, I disagree with the health-care reform. With the taxes we American's pay, health-care should be free for EVERYBODY. If health insurance is mandated, I don't think much will change. Their will still be people who can't afford health insurance. Just like alot of people can't afford health-care.
this guy is such a piece of shit.....and by "this guy" i mean him and the people he takes orders from. This guy is nothing but a sock puppet with a hand up his ass.
It is unconstitutional to force an American citizen to purchase a product. Case closed. No debate about it.
If I am required to buy insurance then I will sue the federal government. And if I dont win I will shove my penalty up Obama's ass. Then he will need it more than I do.
Hell I have a job and declined a health insurance plan from my employer because I wanted to buy 'other' things that I wanted, most people have that choice, and to pay my own doctor bills out of pocket..which he seems to be pretty happy about since his money doesn't have to pass through 3 hands before it gets to him. I'm sure doctors love the government telling them how much their supplies and time of service are worth.
Yeah it's not like most people who are on a government program are actually inable or disabled from work to buy there own..personally I think more than half on a government plan are too lazy and expect their checks/medicade card to be in mail at beginning every month while their only intention is to abuse the system every year and not actually look for gainful employment. Federal help has made more lazy people than junk food and TV combined.
Actually. If you listen he states if HC is not affordable then there has to be a mechanism to force people to pay. However, the new HC reform which does contain a mechanism (between 1 and 2.5% of your income) but the difference is the insurance exchange allows for affordability with subsidies that allow those who can't afford it to have HC.
Also it is important to point out that the other benefits far out weigh the negatives. Like no caps, and no more denial of coverage. Way more important
@skimpaler@skimpaler how is this new HC bill going to help in actually lowering the cost of HC? subsidies is not lowering the cost, but filling in the rest of what the person/family cannot pay themselves.
if ins. was allowed to compete between states AND basic medical care was allowed to compete w/ prices, then costs would come down. one, because of market competition and two, because the BIG hospitals would be relieved of the basic, non life threatening check ups & procedures.
@researchris2 exactly and this person acts like that 'subsidy' is just going to appear out of nowhere. it actually will come from higher taxes, taxes on biz that are passed on to consumers, inflation on money supply (if they print it), etc. i don't understand how these obama tools defend this piece of crap mandate! if bush had signed that bill they'd be screaming fascism (like I am).
@researchris2 The other half of the story is quality. If healthcare is universal (meaning everyone gets the same treatment) and the government is paying, the government will have to take away the privilege of choosing which doctor you can see, otherwise everyone will want to go to the best doctor. All doctors will then get paid the same and will not have any incentive to be better than others. It will also take away the incentive to become a doctor. This will severely reduce quality.
@skimpaler The point is, this is yet another point where he has proven himself to be just another leech of a politician. He said it is wrong to charge people who don't have healthcare, and it is OBVIOUSLY stated in the bill that that is exactly the plan.
Listen, maybe universal healthcare can work out. Whether or not it can, the way this administration has approached it is WRONG and will have a terrible impact.
well, the comment was fueled towards Obama and the mandate and the video here, but I bet RP has a few in there as well, I like him though, but I liked Obama as well...they all lie, if they were truthful all the time, would they be in politics?
@DeadEnd2010 this reply is not intended to prod or start anything heated .you say they all lie because if they were truthful all the time, would they be in politics?
can you give at least 1 lie ron paul said as a representative? 2 or 3 would be nice, if you could come up with them. you're right, most do lie and it's easy to find examples, but it is hard to find a lie come out of mr. paul.
i hope you don't get too discouraged & MAKE them steal your vote instead of giving it away w/ a non vote.
you now that I think about it, maybe Ron Paul has told a lie in his life, he could be the one, the only one who has never lied, but make him President and lets see then. I'll even vote for him just to see.
@lees20022 I didn't vote for him in the first place because he is a member of the Council On Foreign Relation, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, all very evil secret societies that have no business being involved in our American government. it's a no-brainer, these are things that need to be considered before voting for your next president and any president thereafter, If we have the chance.
as medicare can't pay it, obama's abolished it. the health insurance you paid so far, is invalid as the health fund dosn't cover hip replacements. you only have $20,000 dollars in your bank account, what are you going to do?
MBF minimum 50 bucks a fourtnight and covers nothing, the delux is $106 a fourtnight and covers mot things. now what happens when you just started paying for the MBF standard $64:36 a fourtnight. you have paid 1 yr payments total of $1673.36 and get hit by a car,your critical and need a hip nreplacement, your health insurance received $1673.36 the surgery is gona cost you $30,000, you have to make sure you have that,
obama wan't to abolish medicare, make everyone pay private health care funds or else pay 25,000 dollar fine, or go to geol. who has $25,000 to throw away every time you get a flu e.g: swine flu.
my parents didn' have private insurrance and parents earned over the threshhold to recieve medicare, but the eye surgery wasn't covered by medicare eaither, does that mean if they didn't have the $10,000 dollars they would of let me die?
the other guy said: "i thought you were the one who brought her back alive". He replied, "No i just cleaned the blood, because i had to and walked out, she came back on her on achored". the other doctor dismissed him, and said i won't tell the boss but if i get another patient in her state and you do that again i will, and broke friendships with him after that and walked off and let my parents no i was ok, and another doctor came, picked me up and took me to intensive care.
"I'm not gona bother bringing this black little bitch back, if she's paying through medicare, we won't get paid today, it could take a few weeks". The other doctor said "No it's cash full $10,000 dollars". The guy replied, "good". he then said, "I was hoping the black little bitch was gona stay dead, so i didn't have to touch her".
I am also black/ well brown skined as i am half Fijian but born in Autralia. The doctors all walked out, let my parents know i hadn't made it. thinking i'd be in good care, no one realised i woke up listening to the whole argument. the guy that was supose to be looking after my presumed dead body, turned around and asked one of the doctors, "How is this surgery getting paid, cash i hope '?.
Obama also said he would abolish government funding like healthcare. Now i live in Australia when i was 7 years old, i had to have eye surgery, I lost over 2.5 litres of blood, died and came back a few times. But made it, purely by god.
Thats Hideous, $25,000 -&250,000 Fine fee or Geol sentance of 1 year-5 years.- thats like a whole year wage on 1 fine. There is going to be a lot of deaths and a lot of people going to geol. $25,000 + fine is a hell of a lot more then $1000 dollar fine that he said it would be. Always read the dotted lines.
hey nancy go fuck yourself in that crazy liberal ass of yours with a dead donkey cock people cant afford food and your stupid ass wants them to buy 15 grand in med ins. please try to find your right mind sometimes this week ,retard
I'm a Fireman and my health insurance is provided through the state of Ohio. But, I disagree with the health-care reform. With the taxes we American's pay, health-care should be free for EVERYBODY. If health insurance is mandated, I don't think much will change. Their will still be people who can't afford health insurance. Just like alot of people can't afford health-care.
jackslater230011 6 months ago
Obama is the enemy of freedom. He makes war on Libya with no constitutional authority and no one says anything.
josephdupont 9 months ago
Screw Barry Soetoro and his mandated health care!
nwestwind 1 year ago 2
this guy is such a piece of shit.....and by "this guy" i mean him and the people he takes orders from. This guy is nothing but a sock puppet with a hand up his ass.
feseveri1911 1 year ago
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Isn't this whats going on now Mr. Obama
SunnyLovetts 1 year ago
At least he's consistent--lying before and lying now.
GetItRight4aChange 1 year ago
It is unconstitutional to force an American citizen to purchase a product. Case closed. No debate about it.
If I am required to buy insurance then I will sue the federal government. And if I dont win I will shove my penalty up Obama's ass. Then he will need it more than I do.
Jononutoob 1 year ago 11
Hell I have a job and declined a health insurance plan from my employer because I wanted to buy 'other' things that I wanted, most people have that choice, and to pay my own doctor bills out of pocket..which he seems to be pretty happy about since his money doesn't have to pass through 3 hands before it gets to him. I'm sure doctors love the government telling them how much their supplies and time of service are worth.
YouDiedFromHR3962 1 year ago
Yeah it's not like most people who are on a government program are actually inable or disabled from work to buy there own..personally I think more than half on a government plan are too lazy and expect their checks/medicade card to be in mail at beginning every month while their only intention is to abuse the system every year and not actually look for gainful employment. Federal help has made more lazy people than junk food and TV combined.
YouDiedFromHR3962 1 year ago
Actually. If you listen he states if HC is not affordable then there has to be a mechanism to force people to pay. However, the new HC reform which does contain a mechanism (between 1 and 2.5% of your income) but the difference is the insurance exchange allows for affordability with subsidies that allow those who can't afford it to have HC.
Also it is important to point out that the other benefits far out weigh the negatives. Like no caps, and no more denial of coverage. Way more important
skimpaler 1 year ago
@skimpaler @skimpaler how is this new HC bill going to help in actually lowering the cost of HC? subsidies is not lowering the cost, but filling in the rest of what the person/family cannot pay themselves.
if ins. was allowed to compete between states AND basic medical care was allowed to compete w/ prices, then costs would come down. one, because of market competition and two, because the BIG hospitals would be relieved of the basic, non life threatening check ups & procedures.
researchris2 1 year ago 4
@researchris2 exactly and this person acts like that 'subsidy' is just going to appear out of nowhere. it actually will come from higher taxes, taxes on biz that are passed on to consumers, inflation on money supply (if they print it), etc. i don't understand how these obama tools defend this piece of crap mandate! if bush had signed that bill they'd be screaming fascism (like I am).
jewels2uu 1 year ago
@researchris2 The other half of the story is quality. If healthcare is universal (meaning everyone gets the same treatment) and the government is paying, the government will have to take away the privilege of choosing which doctor you can see, otherwise everyone will want to go to the best doctor. All doctors will then get paid the same and will not have any incentive to be better than others. It will also take away the incentive to become a doctor. This will severely reduce quality.
jjenson2006 6 months ago
@skimpaler The point is, this is yet another point where he has proven himself to be just another leech of a politician. He said it is wrong to charge people who don't have healthcare, and it is OBVIOUSLY stated in the bill that that is exactly the plan.
Listen, maybe universal healthcare can work out. Whether or not it can, the way this administration has approached it is WRONG and will have a terrible impact.
NameIsNew 1 year ago
@skimpaler please get off obamas dick...HE IS A PUPPET
WillahG 1 year ago 2
i'll never vote again, they all lie every stinking one of them...
DeadEnd2010 1 year ago
@DeadEnd2010 what did or does ron paul lie about?
researchris2 1 year ago
well, the comment was fueled towards Obama and the mandate and the video here, but I bet RP has a few in there as well, I like him though, but I liked Obama as well...they all lie, if they were truthful all the time, would they be in politics?
DeadEnd2010 1 year ago
@DeadEnd2010 this reply is not intended to prod or start anything heated .you say they all lie because if they were truthful all the time, would they be in politics?
can you give at least 1 lie ron paul said as a representative? 2 or 3 would be nice, if you could come up with them. you're right, most do lie and it's easy to find examples, but it is hard to find a lie come out of mr. paul.
i hope you don't get too discouraged & MAKE them steal your vote instead of giving it away w/ a non vote.
researchris2 1 year ago
@DeadEnd2010 Being in politics is not a good excuse for blatant lies. It doesn't matter what side of the fence you are on.
NameIsNew 1 year ago
you now that I think about it, maybe Ron Paul has told a lie in his life, he could be the one, the only one who has never lied, but make him President and lets see then. I'll even vote for him just to see.
DeadEnd2010 1 year ago
@DeadEnd2010 hey! that is some progress. from you saying you'll never vote again.
researchris2 1 year ago
@researchris2 yeah, I can flip flop with the best of them, it's the American way!
DeadEnd2010 1 year ago
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ebeatworld 1 year ago
Man, Obama turned out to be the most phony President in history.
I won't vote for this guy again.
lees20022 1 year ago 9
@lees20022 At least you admit it. Lot of people who blindly follow Obama.
Lisztman88 1 year ago
@lees20022 I didn't vote for him in the first place because he is a member of the Council On Foreign Relation, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, all very evil secret societies that have no business being involved in our American government. it's a no-brainer, these are things that need to be considered before voting for your next president and any president thereafter, If we have the chance.
PostToastie 1 year ago
I think Obama has a demon.
WhereDidItAllGo7 1 year ago
this guy is not an American.
captainkill1 2 years ago
as medicare can't pay it, obama's abolished it. the health insurance you paid so far, is invalid as the health fund dosn't cover hip replacements. you only have $20,000 dollars in your bank account, what are you going to do?
Galactia7 2 years ago
MBF minimum 50 bucks a fourtnight and covers nothing, the delux is $106 a fourtnight and covers mot things. now what happens when you just started paying for the MBF standard $64:36 a fourtnight. you have paid 1 yr payments total of $1673.36 and get hit by a car,your critical and need a hip nreplacement, your health insurance received $1673.36 the surgery is gona cost you $30,000, you have to make sure you have that,
Galactia7 2 years ago
obama wan't to abolish medicare, make everyone pay private health care funds or else pay 25,000 dollar fine, or go to geol. who has $25,000 to throw away every time you get a flu e.g: swine flu.
Galactia7 2 years ago
my parents didn' have private insurrance and parents earned over the threshhold to recieve medicare, but the eye surgery wasn't covered by medicare eaither, does that mean if they didn't have the $10,000 dollars they would of let me die?
Galactia7 2 years ago
the other guy said: "i thought you were the one who brought her back alive". He replied, "No i just cleaned the blood, because i had to and walked out, she came back on her on achored". the other doctor dismissed him, and said i won't tell the boss but if i get another patient in her state and you do that again i will, and broke friendships with him after that and walked off and let my parents no i was ok, and another doctor came, picked me up and took me to intensive care.
Galactia7 2 years ago
"I'm not gona bother bringing this black little bitch back, if she's paying through medicare, we won't get paid today, it could take a few weeks". The other doctor said "No it's cash full $10,000 dollars". The guy replied, "good". he then said, "I was hoping the black little bitch was gona stay dead, so i didn't have to touch her".
Galactia7 2 years ago
I am also black/ well brown skined as i am half Fijian but born in Autralia. The doctors all walked out, let my parents know i hadn't made it. thinking i'd be in good care, no one realised i woke up listening to the whole argument. the guy that was supose to be looking after my presumed dead body, turned around and asked one of the doctors, "How is this surgery getting paid, cash i hope '?.
Galactia7 2 years ago
Obama also said he would abolish government funding like healthcare. Now i live in Australia when i was 7 years old, i had to have eye surgery, I lost over 2.5 litres of blood, died and came back a few times. But made it, purely by god.
Galactia7 2 years ago
Thats Hideous, $25,000 -&250,000 Fine fee or Geol sentance of 1 year-5 years.- thats like a whole year wage on 1 fine. There is going to be a lot of deaths and a lot of people going to geol. $25,000 + fine is a hell of a lot more then $1000 dollar fine that he said it would be. Always read the dotted lines.
Galactia7 2 years ago
Treason.
MrEmesis 2 years ago 2
Wake up and smell the fascism
sweetelesue 2 years ago
hey nancy go fuck yourself in that crazy liberal ass of yours with a dead donkey cock people cant afford food and your stupid ass wants them to buy 15 grand in med ins. please try to find your right mind sometimes this week ,retard
firebird2012 2 years ago
You are just a racist for questioning Obama. LOL
streetrace442 2 years ago