Hehe, I'll say UFC guys, JDS, Cain, Shane, Mir, Brock, vs guys who are either overrated or great in past tense. They have guys like Bret Rogers as top guys, who has he fought, Arlavski? How good is Arlavski really? And I like Arlavski but let's be honest, he never was a JDS or Cain. I like Alistair but I want to see him fight more guys now in his prime, remember only years ago he was getting beaten by UFC LHWs. I think he's better now, but I don't think Strikeforce is the test.
UFC, most of the strikeforce heavyweights are either passed their prime, ufc cut, out of shape and fat)kharitonov, Overrated(Rogers), or havent fought any top competition in years(Barnett and Overeem.) Though I feel Overeem is a very very talented fighter.
UFC... sf has great HWs but the real difference is that in the UFC, the fighters are more catious while fighting so they can maintain good stats and eventually get a title shot or deend the title, while in SF they usually dont give a fuk.. thats why we've seen a lot of great matches at SF lately...
UFC has better heavyweights. Strikeforce's heavyweights have been active where as UFC has had Nog out, Carwin out, Cain out. UFC are excellent for spotting talent. Fighters being hyped due to win streaks, signing with the UFC and then losing is really quite common. Its simply because they aren't fighting top guys. Like Josh Barnett, i like him, hes decent but what win is dropping your jaw on his streak of wins? Same to Rogers. Out of the tourny which I'm enjoying I only want Reem n Wredum back.
all these strikeforce cards have been so entertaining these past few months because the matchups are terrible. Nearly every fight has a fighter who is much better then the other. Still love Strikeforce though
Cain Velasquez and JDS are good, Frank Mir is on the wane as is Big Nog. Carwin is good. Brock is good. Beneath those guys I'd say the UFC is weak. Struve is decent but nothing special. Meanwhile Silva, Overeem, Kharitanov, Barnett, Werdum, Rogers, Del Rosario are all in their prime. And strikeforce has a host of decent guys below them where as the UFC is lacking outside the top 5 guys.
@xxxmattk bigfoot doesnt stand a chance against cain, he might beat brock but you're joking if you think he can beat cain, how you gonna say jds or carwin would beat him and cain wouldnt?
@rampage42 because i think bigfoot doesnt do well against big good strikers. just because cains the champ doesn't always means hes the best jds gets the chance to prove that
@xxxmattk ok, idk if you followed cain at all but i have followed him for a long time. and I said from the start that he would be champion. and dont get me wrong i think JDS is awesome too, but cain is a good striker and a great wrestler. and he's already proven he can deal with people bigger than him, so bigfoot couldnt take him down. cain has good standup. i think bigfoot is good but he was looking a little tired after the 2nd round against fedor. and cain is a cardio machine =cain win
@xxxmattk Just because he's the champ doesn't mean he's the best? Please tell me, you wanted to take that comment back as soon as you sent it. If that isn't the best way to claim thr rigth as the best i don't know what is.
The UFC has a stronger heavyweight division, but Strikeforce has a much more exciting one. People call it mismatches I call it guys going for the kill instead of jab move jab jab move.....
Doesn't UFC own Strikeforce?
HellbringerUK 3 months ago
@HellbringerUK ufc owns pride, i'm not sure if pride and strikeforce the same thing
narkatika 3 months ago
UFC
maxobat 11 months ago
Hehe, I'll say UFC guys, JDS, Cain, Shane, Mir, Brock, vs guys who are either overrated or great in past tense. They have guys like Bret Rogers as top guys, who has he fought, Arlavski? How good is Arlavski really? And I like Arlavski but let's be honest, he never was a JDS or Cain. I like Alistair but I want to see him fight more guys now in his prime, remember only years ago he was getting beaten by UFC LHWs. I think he's better now, but I don't think Strikeforce is the test.
inhumanhyena 1 year ago
I'd say it's 50/50
JRoc14NSL 1 year ago
UFC, most of the strikeforce heavyweights are either passed their prime, ufc cut, out of shape and fat)kharitonov, Overrated(Rogers), or havent fought any top competition in years(Barnett and Overeem.) Though I feel Overeem is a very very talented fighter.
KYgelly 1 year ago
Strikeforce = More entertaining fights, a lot of times due to mismatches. Most of the fighters have nothing to lose.
UFC = More talented and smarter fighters, that are still in their prime. And have everything in the world to lose.
HBKCommish 1 year ago
UFC, but just barely.
eggsandwich8885 1 year ago
I would say UFC but it is close.
Obscuredbywinds 1 year ago
well if u take ufcs top 5 heavys and take sfs top 5 heavys who wins? id say ufcs top five usually beat sfs top 5
cryingtooth 1 year ago
I wanna see Alistair Overeem vs Cain. Who wins the fight takes it all! Ha! Cheers guys, great show! Keep up the good work!
rerere232323 1 year ago
UFC.
DamonSaesee 1 year ago
I'm going with Strikeforce but they both have great HW fighters.
NJZanDatsu 1 year ago
strikeforce- overeem, werdum, barnett, big foot, fedor, rogers, sergei K.
ufc- cain, dos santos, nelson, carwin, mirr, struve , lesnar
i think the dust has to settle before we can come to any conclusion because both HW division's are pretty damn mean!
xkillaz18x 1 year ago
UFC... sf has great HWs but the real difference is that in the UFC, the fighters are more catious while fighting so they can maintain good stats and eventually get a title shot or deend the title, while in SF they usually dont give a fuk.. thats why we've seen a lot of great matches at SF lately...
kyshela 1 year ago
UFC in my opinion... but strikeforce definitely has some legitimately talented heavyweights...
ibsportsTV 1 year ago
UFC has better heavyweights. Strikeforce's heavyweights have been active where as UFC has had Nog out, Carwin out, Cain out. UFC are excellent for spotting talent. Fighters being hyped due to win streaks, signing with the UFC and then losing is really quite common. Its simply because they aren't fighting top guys. Like Josh Barnett, i like him, hes decent but what win is dropping your jaw on his streak of wins? Same to Rogers. Out of the tourny which I'm enjoying I only want Reem n Wredum back.
ImAidaTv 1 year ago
ufc all the way, but reem and silva are so fucking good right now, i can see silva and reem in the final.
cheesespin 1 year ago
@cheesespin there both on the same side of the bracket so they will fight next if Overeem beats Werdum, but not the finals
PurpleDrank80 1 year ago
@PurpleDrank80 of course my mistake, be a hell of a fight that.
cheesespin 1 year ago
Strikeforce, but there isn't much in it.
MMAmischief 1 year ago
It seems like the UFC HW's rarely ever fight. Strikeforce is doing shit right now and I like it. I'm with ingo right now.
weHAVEsex 1 year ago
Strikeforce has the best HW just because they're not in ufc doesn't mean they suck, Overeem and Fedor would wreck Ufc HWs
JRoc14NSL 1 year ago
UFC has the better heavyweights.
Feralig 1 year ago
UFC but the strikeforce hw tournament looks like it will be awesome
xsrg14 1 year ago
Ufc has the better division skillwise. Strikeforce is more entertaining.
xTURDSANDWICHx 1 year ago
all these strikeforce cards have been so entertaining these past few months because the matchups are terrible. Nearly every fight has a fighter who is much better then the other. Still love Strikeforce though
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Emotionlessxartist 1 year ago
pat barry would wreck sergei kharitonov
jakekiser17 1 year ago
ufc
jakekiser17 1 year ago
strikeforce.
mbauer08 1 year ago
UFC has the top 3 HW's but Strikeforce has the best overall line up.
tevie84 1 year ago
ufc all the guys in strikeforce beat nothing but bums
vicgarcia30 1 year ago
@vicgarcia30 stop drinking zuffa kool aid you moron.
mbauer08 1 year ago
both have some great fighters and Brock lesnar is not one of them
pass1144 1 year ago
Hilarious jokes from matt and a great idea from Ingo.
Velasquez vs the winner of the tournament.
Lesnar
JDS
Mir vs The rest of the tourny competetors.
Big Nog
Carwin
Nelson
MrKjin22 1 year ago
Strikeforce
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IlluminatiSeer 1 year ago
Cain Velasquez and JDS are good, Frank Mir is on the wane as is Big Nog. Carwin is good. Brock is good. Beneath those guys I'd say the UFC is weak. Struve is decent but nothing special. Meanwhile Silva, Overeem, Kharitanov, Barnett, Werdum, Rogers, Del Rosario are all in their prime. And strikeforce has a host of decent guys below them where as the UFC is lacking outside the top 5 guys.
jojojshmo 1 year ago
Very even. May lean towards UFC for talent. But Strikeforce has made their Heavyweight division way more interesting with the Heavyweight Grand Prix.
MrHugoSolo 1 year ago
Strikeforce has the better heavyweights. Overeem > than any ufc heavyweight (like a roided jds)
Big foot: i can see him beating cain and brock, but maybe have more trouble with jds or carwin
Werdum: has the technical skill to catch anyone off guard with a submission even though i don't see him beating the ufc top guys that often.
Fedor: i can see fedor beating a lot of the ufc guys, but i'd rather see him go 205
xxxmattk 1 year ago
@xxxmattk bigfoot doesnt stand a chance against cain, he might beat brock but you're joking if you think he can beat cain, how you gonna say jds or carwin would beat him and cain wouldnt?
rampage42 1 year ago
@rampage42 because i think bigfoot doesnt do well against big good strikers. just because cains the champ doesn't always means hes the best jds gets the chance to prove that
xxxmattk 1 year ago
@xxxmattk ok, idk if you followed cain at all but i have followed him for a long time. and I said from the start that he would be champion. and dont get me wrong i think JDS is awesome too, but cain is a good striker and a great wrestler. and he's already proven he can deal with people bigger than him, so bigfoot couldnt take him down. cain has good standup. i think bigfoot is good but he was looking a little tired after the 2nd round against fedor. and cain is a cardio machine =cain win
rampage42 1 year ago
@xxxmattk Just because he's the champ doesn't mean he's the best? Please tell me, you wanted to take that comment back as soon as you sent it. If that isn't the best way to claim thr rigth as the best i don't know what is.
eggsandwich8885 1 year ago
I say right now at the moment STRIKEFORCE has the better heavyweights.
FresHPheNoMenonN 1 year ago
Strikeforce!
MadEastern 1 year ago
The UFC has a stronger heavyweight division, but Strikeforce has a much more exciting one. People call it mismatches I call it guys going for the kill instead of jab move jab jab move.....
SxeScotty 1 year ago
Ufc has a few really good Heavyweights. But Strikeforce is better.
easy18big 1 year ago
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Keith2800 1 year ago
Definetely Strikeforce!!
Pharellman456 1 year ago