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@AutomatikZ187 How the fuck is kobe the most overrated player in nab history. are you a dumbs. he has 5 championships, won mvp trophies, been an all-star since his first or second season, etc.... i don't think you can say he is overrated.
Kobe saying he's MJ? Did he wear his number and copy his chalk toss? Oh no wait that's LeBron. Kobe is no MJ only in the defensive end. Offensively Kobe is the greatest sure Jordan could hit the mid range fad/jump but that's pretty much it as far as shooting. Kobe has shot 1000 more three pointers in the same amount of games and still has a higher 3 point percentage than MJ. His ability to shoot over anyone is a title that could only be given to him. MJ could dunk over anyone theres a difference
If kobe is the best player ever then why is it there are more people and experts considering MJ as the best player ever? i never heard a reporter, an analyst, an expert or whatsoever refer kobe as the best player ever but on MJ i heard it a couple of times... that alone makes sense that Mj is the best...
Also you always knew when Michael let the ball go out of his hand and then just walked away....he knew it was gonna go in the basket. I remember I saw the Bulls live twice and those were the most entertaining sports games I have ever been to. The suspense and intesity was insane!
Its like I said before. You may not like Michael Jordan as a person for whatever reason, but as a NBA player you cant deny that he set the bar so high that after his era there is no real point in watching NBA....anything you see now Jordans already done. Jordan took the game to a level no one ever thought of!
Just look at Jordan highlights and ANY other player highlights and you cant even say a bad thing!
To me its crazy, NBA "fans" are always comparing these two. Kobe is a great leader/player as well as michael WAS! but they are in to different era's! in michael's time there was certain rules in affect that there arent todayan vice-versa. Personally though, i think it is absolutely harder to score in todays NBA then in mikes time.(still this does not make either better they are both great!)
all tho no one can ever compare to MJ the closest thing to this inhumane inbred would to be kobe, aint no one one currently leading there team like kobe has his whole career cudos to KB24 but he aint touching MJ23 best there has been best there ever be!!!
I didn't grow up in the era of Michael Jordan an idc if they say he is better. And I'm not jealous of you Michael jordan fans saying he is the best and how us people didn't get to see him play. I appreciate both players and seriously the only reason I come close to watching the NBA a lot is because of Kobe Bryant. But atleast 15 years from now I will be proud to tell my children that I LIVED IN A ERA WHERE KOBE BRYANT WAS CONSIDERED THE BEST IN THE NBA.
STEPHEN A SMITH JORDAN IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME BECAUSE HE HAS 6x CHAMPION AND 5X MVP ? COINCIDENCE WITH PIPPEN 6x CHAMPION 5x MVP 6X MVP FINALS. 7 YRS BEFORE 1 ROOKIE MVP 0x CHAMPION 1 MVP 0x MVP FINALS.WHY 0 1 0. SIMPLE ITS NOT A SCIENCE THE G.O.A.T WITH PIPPEN WITHOUT PIPPEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL LIKE 7 YRS BEFORE HE WON HIS 1 TITLE WITH PIPPEN HELP
Maybe if Kobe did a Space Jam 2 he could be compared to MJ that movie is the greatest of all time. MJ is definetly top 3 of all time but people overlook Magic and Jabbar.
(cont.) He is probably the best in the league and in his era, but he will never ever be as good as MJ was. Sure he might be the closest thing to MJ, but he will never be able to surpass Jordan's legendary status.So that's it. Kobe is great and is a future HOF, but he will never be as great as Jordan was.
I'm not saying that all Kobe fans are stupid because there are some who actually have sense and good knowledge of NBA history. But to the cock riders who constantly keep saying KB had 81 pt game, he's more athletic, he plays again stronger teams, etc., just shows how completely ignorant and deluded you KB24 dickriders are. Kobe had an 81 pt. game against a lottery bound team. MJ scored 63 pts in the playoffs against a legendary Celtics squad with 3 HOFers in it. I'm not saying Kobe sucks...
@tiger1649 See you lost me when you said Kobe is the Greatest ever Go Troll somewhere else sir who cares about a so called "legit" 60 point game... When you own the all time leading scorer avg at 30.12 ppg! 6x MVP 6x Finals MVP 10x Scoring Champ... I can go all day his impact will never be matched
This is how you end a conversation with anyone comparing Kobe to Jordan... "If Kobe isn't even the best player of his own Franchise Wilt,Kareem or Magic, how could he be better then the G.O.A.T"
@gardenwalk23 KOBE'S GREATEST GAME ARCHIVE MAKES JORDANS LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY! JORDAN DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN KOBE THAT WE CAN ((SEE))! ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BALL! THE VIDS TELLS THE REAL STORY WITHOUT THE HYPE! JORDAN DON'T EVEN HAVE A LIGETIMATE 60 PT GAME, THEY ALL NEEDED EXTRA HELP FROM THE CLOCK OR A WHO CARES LOSS! KOBES THE BEST TO EVER DO IT! AND THE VIDS SHOW IT! PERIOD!
No one will ever be as good as mj... due 2 how hyped he's got.... but 2daiis basketball... is different tactics... defending offensive different training...
whenever you said kobe is better, still it's mj's credit.... bcuz der was no other player like mj before mj, mj was competing to all the legends of nba before, but kobe was after in beating mj's record and was just also really inspired of mj. dey'r both great! kobe is awesome but still mj is the original hero of basketball. noone change the game and popularize the nba even more than mj...
@Imaqes Where does that fallacy of Kobe being a better shooter come from? That is easily proven false. Kobe and MJ's 3-point shooting is almost identical (Kobe is .001% higher) and MJ's 2-point shooting crushes Kobe. Kobe is a 45% shooter for his career and MJ is a 50% shooter. Which is better?
@VinmanMJ23 Its shot selection. Jordan is probably the better overall player but Kobe is a slightly better shooter & scorer. The thing is that Jordan used his shooting ability wisely. They both had/have ridiculous ability to make extremely difficult shots but Kobe (for some odd reason) takes an absurd amount of tough/difficult/"what the fuck are you doing" shots (may be a little better at it).
@czar178 If he had a better shot selection he'd shoot a higher percentage. Jordan was a great shooter with good shot selection. Kobe is a slightly better shooter with bad shot selection.
The lack of common sense, logic & total disregarding of the FACTS by U Y2K kids is TRULY unbelievable..SMH
If he's such a "better scorer", how come U can't even SHOW from within his own offensive body of work, where's he's EVER consistently put up better offensive #s than MJ at ANY point in his career?!!
That makes NO SENSE at all!
Do U know how DUMB U sound?!!
That's like saying MJ's a better rebounder than Rodman..SMH
@blackadam06 appaerently you didn't read what I said....lemme simplify. Based on WATCHING THEM PLAY (I will say that I've seen more Kobe games than Jordan tho) Kobe is a slightly better shooter (he's got more range and makes the toughest shots imaginable...even tougher than some of Jordan's most difficult shots). Stats are not the whole story. You gotta watch the games.
@czar178 Now at the same time, I'm saying that Jordan was a great shooter that has good shot selection. That's why his shooting % is higher than Kobe's. Their shooting skills are pretty even but I give the slight edge to Kobe. And if he had a better shot selection he's shoot a better percentage.
"Stats are not the whole story. You gotta watch the games"
You're right, but who said they were?
Too many times U kobe fans however, will TOTALLY disregard their on-court production (stats), which LITERALLY are the RESULTS of the very skill/talent/ability in question, just to make a more favorable comparison for him.
U cannot separate skill/ability (or on-court play) from their stats because they're a DIRECT REFLECTION of each other.
Always have and always will, and many of U kobe fans KNOW IT.
That's why so many of y'all go out of your way to try & dismiss them as it relates to him being compared to MJ, because U know that what you're saying ISN'T TRUE, but U just don't want to admit it.
No one who's allegedly inferior to the next guy at something, will consistently produce better results at it than him.
That's just common sense, something many of U kobe fans tend to lack..SMH
And the old "he has more range" claim is debatable too.
He just relies on the 3pt shot more than MJ, but isn't really all that much better from out there. He takes almost 3x as many of 'em as MJ, yet only holds a mere .0001% edge over him career wise (and that's ONLY in the reg season)!
@blackadam06 Yep...and if MJ had taken as many 3-pointers as Kobe, his shooting percentage would probably rise by at least .0001 on the sheer practice alone, LOL.
It's like they don't understand what volume shooting is...SMH
Kobe throughout his career, has had stretches of games where he's missed JUST AS MANY 3ptrs in LESS amount of games played, than MJ missed in a entire season LOL!!
That's crazy LOL!!
An example of this can be seen in MJ's rookie season.
MJ shot 9-52 (17%) for that entire season.
Kobe shot a combined 10-57 (17%) in games 1-10; 5-23 and 61-62 of the 2006 season LOL!!
That just means you don't understand statistics. If one day I shot 0/1 for ten consecutive games, and then 8/8 for the next 72 games, your argument about shooting just as bad as MJ in less games would be the EXACT same. So your argument, at least statistically, is completely irrelevant.
"Kobe is on pace to [break] the [record] for [most missed] shots in a [career] in the late 2013 or early 2014 season, according to research by John Hollinger at ESPN. There's a [97 percent] chance of setting the mark which essentially means that [barring injury], he'll [hold that record]. His [current] rate is [866 misses] a season, which puts him 2,204 misses short of the record."
-- E. Carchia: "Kobe Bryant to Break The Record For Most Missed Shots in a Career"; Jan 20, 2011
@quickflip fuck you and kobes bitch ass! Go post a comment on a kobe video fag! Tryin to talk like a "grown" man when ur statements dont hold any weight. Callin jordan "nigger". Fuckin racist bastard! Put money on it u dont even play the game. Jus like 90% of kobes dick riding fans.
@quickflip65 kobe is the biggest cry baby the sport has ever seen. there were players in jordan's days ten times greater than players nowadays. there was DEFENSE in jordan's days. they played for the game, not the money. jordan never lost a finals, kobe's lost a few. jordan made all defensive nba team nine times, i dont think kobe's ever made it. kobe just cares about the money.
@alex2322322 Stop being a fucken retard. Stats don't prove everything. Paul Pierce has bad stats but is a celtics legend and a future hall of famer. Larry Bird didn't nearly have the stats of Jordan, but has had the largest impact on the NBA ever, and, in my mind, by far the best player ever. A white boy who came in, turned the C's around and made the NBA what it is today.
@alex2322322 kobe scored 81 pts in a game, Mj did not! all i'm saying is number can lie to you, so stop using then, but every knows Jordan is better, no need to compare them! it's not even worth it! But Kobe is the greatest palyer still playing! so you're right Mj is the best ever!
@alex2322322 This debate is inarguable. We really cant say who
s better because they are in different generations. I'm not saying Kobe's better, but the game has changed after 10 years. Only if we can pit them against each other in a 1 on 1 game against each other in their prime, we can know, but we can't and that is the reality. Deal with the facts, and appreciate both players.
I speak and write like a grown man. The arguments I have been trying to make are all clearly stated on my posts. I am very cognizant of the fact that majority of the people disagree with me. That is however, the beauty of this discourse. Perhaps your deliberately one-sided reasoning had prompted you to disregard other posts where I have been called names. Most of you are just trying to be thugs who don't have any balls but to jump on the bandwagon, and not have the ability to break your mindset.
Players back in the 80's were in total awe on what they were witnessing as they were mesmerized by the incredibly superior skills of nigger Jordan. They have never seen this kind of athletic performance before on the court. As a result, players venerate towards the nigger by giving him the ultimate respect on the hardwood floor. On the other hand, Kobe gets hounded and pounded by rough defenders like Raja Bell. He even got roughed up by Metta and Barnes when they played against him.
@quickflip65 watch your language. If you want to be seen as a "older" person instead of a "young buck" speak like a grown man or woman. NOT like a ignorant Young Buck...
@manson25lg good shit man, you been gone for a min. glad you're back.!
@quickflip65 You had some good points, but I quickly realized how much of a "grown"man you really are when you started throwing racist comments. Get a life sir...
That is the problem with you people, you assume that I am a young buck. I am probably older than most of you mother-fucking worthless thugs. People are aware of nigger Jordan's basketball prowess and I am not about to discredit his greatness. The point however is, during his era, there were only a handful of great players who posed as a contender when it came to skills. Even defenders, granted there was Michael Cooper of the Lakers but there has never been as many as this basketball era.
"during his era, there were only a handful of great players who posed as a contender when it came to skills"
Yeah...now I KNOW you're 1 of these dumb ass Y2K kids, because U all employ the same, lame ass tactic to equate kobe with MJ.
U know that kobe's body of work & talents as a player won't get the job done on its own merit when compared to MJ, so U try to level the playing field by implying that there weren't many or no "skilled" guys back then.
"Even defenders..[..]..there has never been as many as this basketball era"
Idiot..SMH
There were "6" PERIMETER DPOY winners (including MJ) that won the award 8x amongst them during MJ's era(s).
How many from this era?
Oh that's right...1 (Ron Artest).
You're not fooling anyone kiddo..
You're just another 1 of these dumb ass, Y2K kiddie kobe fanboys who's DESPERATELY trying to level the field so that he can make a more favorable comparison for man-crush..
On the other hand, this is Kobe's 16th season and he is still performing phenomenally despite his recurring bodily injuries. If the ultimate lithmus test in basketball greatness were to be restrictly based on numbers of championships and accolates, then Bill Russell and Kareem would be on the top two. But like what I have pointed out earlier, I do believe that Kobe has both longetivity and endurance that makes his performance superior despite his relentlessly nagging bodily injuries.
bmaga123, obviously you don't know how to reason as I never talked about accolades and statistics. I was clearly pointing out that history perhaps will judge the greatness of the two. I made a comparison based on what I believe, are the two most important factors in determining the level of ones skills. Those are, longetivity and the ability to cope with physical adversity while maintaining the level of your play. Nigger Jordan played horrible during his 13th and 14th year with the Wizards.
For those who think MJ is less Athletic then Kobe please type The Artistry of Michael Jordan on youtube and watch that video. Guarentee you will be picking your jaw up off the floor and feel like an idiot after you stupid comments. Young kids need to learn since they have little knowledge, if only you new what you missed.
@bmaga123 Forget watching the artistry lets state facts JOrdan vertical is 48 inches its even higher then lebrons. Kobe has a vertical of 36 inches. Phil jackson even said it himself that jordan was stronger then Kobe. They both posses similiar skills but jordan athletic ability and better shot selection make him better then kobe. Jordan is better at finishing at the rim also.
@bmaga123 Or do a search for "MJ posterizes Kendall Gill" and you'll see a 35-year-old MJ that is far more athletic than a 30-year old Kobe Bryant on both ends of the court.
Kobe couldnt do 90% of the moves Michael does in these videos. Being the hardcore NBA fan that I am I also no that MJ had a 48" Vertical while Kobe a 38" vertical. Jordan could palm the ball like a grape fruit and Kobe could barely palm it so Jordan had the tools to be much more athletic and he he showed it through out his career on much tougher defenses and no hand check rule.
Whoever said Bynum is a liability and not a factor for the Lakers is a moron. He is one of the top 2 centers in the league and some would argue he is better the DH. Look at the numbers he has been putting up.
Defense in todays game is a joke in comparison to the 80's and 90's. MJ could eassily avg 40+ a game in today game in his prime and Kobe wouldnt avg 20 in the 80's and 90's he would be forced to take all those horrible shots he throws up. Kobe is a great player overall but shouldnt even be mentioned with the likes of MJ. Kobe has 2 more seasons then MJ and still not even close in Points and his Averages and individual accomplishments and accolades dont compare.
You can't really compare players from different eras, i think Kobe has been the best for a while and kobe being the best ended after they won in 2010, now i think were in the Lebron era probably, and then the kevin durant era after that
10 scoring champ 7 straight that sounds better than 1, 81 point game career avg. 31.2 regular season 33.4 in the fucking post season when kobe is no where to be found last 2 finals in games that really count referring to boston. ayo let me stop this is a joke kobe is good don't get me wrong but no mike you mad about the statue haaaaaaaa
LOL Kobe wasn't even a fucking starter in the beginning of that year shaq won them chips and shaq was the 3x final mvp in the first 3 peat, you could even tell me the bulls starting five in the first three peat without looking it up, pippen wasnt even shit when he came in the league jordan would wax that ass in practice and thats what made him ok are you fucking serious look at the teams he played in the playoffs compare to now who give a fuck about a 81 point you wanna compare stats go ahead ha
Your ignorant (and racist) rhetoric doesn't even warrant an elaborate, fact filled rebuttal, because anyone can see it for the trolling nonsense that it is.
When it comes to athleticism, no player on this planet past or present, would be able to replicate Kobe's moves. His shots require extremely difficult talent and physical ability to execute his accurate shots. When times Kobe is being hounded by very good defenders, he stil is able to out-step his defender and score points, even on a double-team with his quick spin or turn around. Nigger Jordan would not be great if there were great defenders during his time, like Metta.
@quickflip65 Are you serious? Kobe more athletic than Jordan? Clearly you don't what being athletic is. And to insult the old player is blasphemy. Kobe's Dick is so far in your in your mouth I know you look see shit objectively. Kobe got his moves from Jordan dumb ass.
@UTxMansonKnowz,and where did MJ get his moves from?Have you ever watched Elgin baylor, Dr. J,Oscar Robertson, Jerry West?You think Jordan wasn't influence by any these guys.Everybody copies moves, what is your point?Moves get passed down.Jordan is great.Kobe is great.Both played in different circumstances.MJ was the face of the franchise & Kobe was an unknown coming off the bench.Flip the situation around and would MJ still won those MVPs if he was Kobe place playing with Shaq?
And as far as physical adversities, nobody can match Kobe's resilience maintaining his greatness. His work ethic is far more serious than nigger Jordan's as evidence by Kobe's multiple injuries. It is the public's mindset that mother fucking cocky nigger Jordan is the best player that ever lived on the planet. But the fact remains that nigger Jordan is obviously intimiidated by Kobe's legacy. Kobe never talked shit about the nigger while Jordan talks crap about Kobe all the time.
Jordan is one cocky mother fucker. Kobe is way more athletic than that negro.The nigger had already miserably faded at Kobe's age, During nigger Jordan's era, there were only a handful of superstar players. On the other hand, Kobe's entrance to professional basketaball was also the tiime where several high caliber players emerged. And it is continuing to produce excellent players the last 7 years. The point is, Kobe has been facing incredibly serious challegenes to maintain his great skills.
@quickflip65 Quite embarassing yourself with yuor lack of knowlege. Its obvious your young and a big time Kobe fan who cant admit the truth. Kobe is 32 years old now and Jordan was winning Championships and getting another MVP at this age LOL. Compare Jordan numbers, stats, individual accolades, to Kobe's they dont even compare MJ is superior in every category not to mention all the horrible shots Kobe takes.KObe has played 2 more seasons then MJ already and still doesnt have close to the point
Kobe could be better than MJ in bball and no one will ever consider him better for one reason: MJ popularized bball and went out as a hero, Kobe was so focused on bball he alienated his teammates and became a thug with rape charges, therefore everyone hates Kobe and everyone loves MJ, nothing will change that
Show us from within his on-court productivity regarding the various facets of the game, where's he's consistently been "better" at them than MJ (save for reg season 3pt shooting).
He's played under rules that FAVORS guys like himself & MJ going on the the last 7 seasons now, and has yet to put up 1 season that's equal to or better than MJ's best 4 seasons..SMH
Sorry ppl......if Mike were playing in this watered-down version of the N.B.A. he would probably average a realistic 40+ per game.....and we're all so wowed by his scoring that we tend to forget that he actually played DEFENSE!! Perenial 1st Team Defense member....and he imposed his will on the game...He controlled the game, the game didn't control him...
It is hard to compare jordan with kobe since they are from 2 different era. They are both dominant in their career. However, there is 1 difference. Jordan is the GOD in basketball and every 1 respects his legacy and his talent. Whereas kobe, he tries to be the god in basketball, tries to be like jordan. Jordan made NBA to its peak in the 90s when every 1 wore his 23 jersey. But I dont think kobe has reached that kindda level yet and I doubt he will. Michael Jordan for life in basketball!
2:50 THATS FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEARCH BASKETBALL ON WIKIPEDIA THEY HAVE JORDANS PICTURE RIGHT ON THERE GOES TO SHOW JORDAN WAS THE GREATEST OTHER MIGHT BE THE BEST BUT JORDAN WILL FOREVER BE THE FACE OF BASKETBALL.
Jordan is the best but I'm from LA so I will always like Kobe more even when he does dumb shit like throw the ball away in the crunch then do a dumb ass floater and get blocked.
I like the Kobe vs Jordan comparison, but there is 1 problem. You can't compare the two because they are from different eras. If you don't believe me, then compare Jordan to Oscar Robertson and you will find something very interesting. We all are fans and we all have our favs. I am a Jordan fan and actually a Kobe fan for life. LOL... By the way, I pulled the stats for Oscar and compared them to Jordan and I was competely blown away. Also, u can't just compare by rings as Russell has more rings.
@bla-I will still have 2 respectfully disagree. Overlapping eras is not the same as playing the same era. The term era refers 2 when the players are in their prime &/or a players dominance can be directly tied to the 'cause for another player not getting their rings. Jordan(1984-03); Kobe(1996-pres). Kobe clearly not in his prime in the late 90's. Sure u can compare from ur perspectictive, but the comparison of who's better statistically esp. w/NBA rule changes is not possible.Just fun 2 do.LOL.
@blackadam06 - Thanks for the feedback. My hopes are that u were able to c my point on why technically we really can not compare them, but it's just fun 2 do. As far as I am concerned, when u look at Kobe, he is strong, but he does not look it. When u look at Jordan earlier in his career, u can see the dramatic difference in his physique during his dominance. Kobe is still skinny which let's u know how finesse the league is compared to the beatings Jordan took. But like I said, if u really...
@bl- if u really want to be entertained, then take a look at the stats of Oscar Robertson and compare them to Jordan. U will or should be thoroughly entertained. This just further re-emphasizes how comparisons are fun, but the end result should be that it is just fun as the eras make a huge difference. As an aside, there are actually a number of guyz who have more rings than Jordan, but the thing that sets Jordan apart from others that makes him the greatest is his dominance to earn the rings.
I'm WELL AWARE of Oscar's exploits and he's DEFINITELY 1 of the greatest ever. But Y2K kids and this microwave "what have U done 4 me lately" media never gives him his just due.
He avg'd 25/9/7 for his career.
During the pre triangle/pippen yrs, MJ's combined avg was 32/8/6. But what puts MJ into another stratosphere was his unparalleled athleticism in his prime.
That's what KILLS any comparison (on top of the consistently gaudy & unreal #s) with the others they compare to him.
@blackadam06 - I agree that media really misses out on a great opportunity to highlight truly great players. I do like that NBATV plays some of the older games. For many to appreciate such things as Oscar averaging a triple double for an entire season, it can be overshadowed by a summary stat from Wikipedia. The devil is truly in the details and many should check the almanac for Oscars stats.
@bla- It is not possible to compare eras as in Oscar's era, the dominant players had to check ea other which was not required in Jordan's era. I got into an argument with a cat much older than me about who was the greatest ever to play the game, but when I pulled Oscars stats & learned more about the game, I was completely blown away at his stats. Rings do count & Jordan's resume is impressive; so I still ride &die with Jordan, but at the same time, every1 should recognize O's greatness as well.
@blackadam06 - The best way to think about it is to think of the NBA/current league as a superstar driven league. To really get the meat and potatoes of what I am referring to, you will have to do some research into the old basketball archives. There may be some videos on YouTube that better explain this concept.
@mnash3,who cares about russell, Bill russell was on the most stacked teams in NBA history.Played with more hall of famers than anyone else.Why you think no one really mentions russelll as the greatest of all time?Phil jackson has more rings than russell.
@EmperorJBO - I apologize, but I think you missed the point in my statement. Many who do not know basketball history, just think Jordan is the greatest because of his number of rings. Robert Horry actually has more rings, but I would not consider Big Shot Rob a dominant player. Russell, although dominant in his own way, can not be in the list of most dominant for the reason that you mentioned e.g. stacked team. By the way, Phil may have more rings as a coach, but that is a differnt topic. LOL.
I'm sorry, but this is a joke right? Kobe has been better for the past 3 years people! He overtook Jordan when he won the last 2 titles without an all-star or superstar caliber player, unlike Jordan, who was carried by Pippen!
@deniatus WTF your a joke, do you know who Pau Gasol is? Kobe declines in performance in the finals. Each one of Kobe's championships he had a dominating Center. Name another team other then Jordan's Bulls who won a championship with out a dominating Center? Jordan 6 for 6 in finals with 6 finals MVPs. Kobe has 2 finals MVP's one of which he didnt deserve. Also Kobe has one Season MVP to MJ's 5 and I am not even getting into the shooting percentage efficiency differences which isnt even close.
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tiger1649 3 hours ago
JORDAN IS GOAT :) but we dont need to discredit Lebron and Kobe cuz of that. Keep it a hundred mayne. and glen rice looks like Kanye's big brother.
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5:23 cool ass dude my man say misssion control ready for lauch
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2018Armageddon 3 days ago
kobe bryant = the most overated player in nba history! us true nba fans know that lebron is the closest thing we seen to mj no doubt
AutomatikZ187 3 days ago
@AutomatikZ187 How the fuck is kobe the most overrated player in nab history. are you a dumbs. he has 5 championships, won mvp trophies, been an all-star since his first or second season, etc.... i don't think you can say he is overrated.
DerrickRoseIsMVP1 1 hour ago
Jordan fucking played basketball with the looneytoons!!
NiTrNeXuS 4 days ago
37 people are Lebron/Kobe fans.
danceofeternity3824 5 days ago
Kobe saying he's MJ? Did he wear his number and copy his chalk toss? Oh no wait that's LeBron. Kobe is no MJ only in the defensive end. Offensively Kobe is the greatest sure Jordan could hit the mid range fad/jump but that's pretty much it as far as shooting. Kobe has shot 1000 more three pointers in the same amount of games and still has a higher 3 point percentage than MJ. His ability to shoot over anyone is a title that could only be given to him. MJ could dunk over anyone theres a difference
Mannyfrom213 5 days ago
@Mannyfrom213 3 percentage was couple higher. Defensively, not even close. MJ had a higher points per game without the need to shoot threes.
UTxMansonKnowz 5 days ago
happy 49th birthday Jordan. Cant wait to see how they celebrate your big five-o.
lcbrown99 1 week ago
when Michael Jordan dies, I'm gonna buy that 5 hour BluRay tribute Disc
corkystorky 1 week ago
michael jordon will always be da greatest
DwyaneFlashWadeFan3 1 week ago
Jordan is 23, Kobe is 24.
davesubaru88 1 week ago
jordan is still the man of basketball.Dont get me wrong kobe is good to but still no jordan.
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tiger1649 1 week ago
the name "micheal jordan" will never be forget forever.. he is the real half man half amazing.. :)
stifler017 1 week ago
Kobe is No Jordan....why???Because he is Only Kobe--And Kobe and kobe....
He will be the Only One Kobe!!!
Yihan1234 1 week ago
Sorry, if my english not good. I am russian NBA fun)))
Fillvrn 1 week ago
Kobe best player ever, but M.J. is a God of this Game!
Fillvrn 1 week ago
If kobe is the best player ever then why is it there are more people and experts considering MJ as the best player ever? i never heard a reporter, an analyst, an expert or whatsoever refer kobe as the best player ever but on MJ i heard it a couple of times... that alone makes sense that Mj is the best...
alex2322322 2 weeks ago
Also you always knew when Michael let the ball go out of his hand and then just walked away....he knew it was gonna go in the basket. I remember I saw the Bulls live twice and those were the most entertaining sports games I have ever been to. The suspense and intesity was insane!
agenthelios1 2 weeks ago
Also the fans back then were just better to be around then now.
agenthelios1 2 weeks ago
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Its like I said before. You may not like Michael Jordan as a person for whatever reason, but as a NBA player you cant deny that he set the bar so high that after his era there is no real point in watching NBA....anything you see now Jordans already done. Jordan took the game to a level no one ever thought of!
Just look at Jordan highlights and ANY other player highlights and you cant even say a bad thing!
agenthelios1 2 weeks ago
To me its crazy, NBA "fans" are always comparing these two. Kobe is a great leader/player as well as michael WAS! but they are in to different era's! in michael's time there was certain rules in affect that there arent todayan vice-versa. Personally though, i think it is absolutely harder to score in todays NBA then in mikes time.(still this does not make either better they are both great!)
fingersai 2 weeks ago
jordan is the only player that can be from another team and no one cares we all love him
miriamlopez1234 2 weeks ago
all tho no one can ever compare to MJ the closest thing to this inhumane inbred would to be kobe, aint no one one currently leading there team like kobe has his whole career cudos to KB24 but he aint touching MJ23 best there has been best there ever be!!!
reydiation1 2 weeks ago
Ummm... I watch and play soccer and have no idea what some comments here mean but i know michael jordan is the best!!
solanoxx98 2 weeks ago
I didn't grow up in the era of Michael Jordan an idc if they say he is better. And I'm not jealous of you Michael jordan fans saying he is the best and how us people didn't get to see him play. I appreciate both players and seriously the only reason I come close to watching the NBA a lot is because of Kobe Bryant. But atleast 15 years from now I will be proud to tell my children that I LIVED IN A ERA WHERE KOBE BRYANT WAS CONSIDERED THE BEST IN THE NBA.
marcoarsenal22 2 weeks ago
c'mon
danny ainge every people has their own weaknesses.... MJ making his weakness to become a dominant player in every game..^^
wafueph2 2 weeks ago
creativity thy name is MICAHEL JORDAN
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tiger1649 3 weeks ago
The 36 dislikes are from Kobe.
unclebob5 3 weeks ago
BORING PLAYS
KB8AND24BLACKMAMBA 3 weeks ago
@KB8AND24BLACKMAMBA
What's boring is the dumb comments by idiots like yourself...
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
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STEPHEN A SMITH JORDAN IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME BECAUSE HE HAS 6x CHAMPION AND 5X MVP ? COINCIDENCE WITH PIPPEN 6x CHAMPION 5x MVP 6X MVP FINALS. 7 YRS BEFORE 1 ROOKIE MVP 0x CHAMPION 1 MVP 0x MVP FINALS.WHY 0 1 0. SIMPLE ITS NOT A SCIENCE THE G.O.A.T WITH PIPPEN WITHOUT PIPPEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL LIKE 7 YRS BEFORE HE WON HIS 1 TITLE WITH PIPPEN HELP
KB8AND24BLACKMAMBA 3 weeks ago
Those slow-mo dunks at the end just made me cry.
ekajnayr16 3 weeks ago
Maybe if Kobe did a Space Jam 2 he could be compared to MJ that movie is the greatest of all time. MJ is definetly top 3 of all time but people overlook Magic and Jabbar.
ZekeRunz100 4 weeks ago
Michael jordan is better period
BadMeetsEvil23100 4 weeks ago
And to think he was ALMOST never drafted into the NBA !
DaItalianstalian 1 month ago
Jordan is the greatest player in NBA history, but i think, that both of them (Kobe&Jordan) are important piece of basketball of all times..
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tiger1649 1 month ago
people need to stop comparing these two kobe is kobe jordan is jordan
kingkjp 1 month ago
(cont.) He is probably the best in the league and in his era, but he will never ever be as good as MJ was. Sure he might be the closest thing to MJ, but he will never be able to surpass Jordan's legendary status.So that's it. Kobe is great and is a future HOF, but he will never be as great as Jordan was.
jizzhunt 1 month ago
I'm not saying that all Kobe fans are stupid because there are some who actually have sense and good knowledge of NBA history. But to the cock riders who constantly keep saying KB had 81 pt game, he's more athletic, he plays again stronger teams, etc., just shows how completely ignorant and deluded you KB24 dickriders are. Kobe had an 81 pt. game against a lottery bound team. MJ scored 63 pts in the playoffs against a legendary Celtics squad with 3 HOFers in it. I'm not saying Kobe sucks...
jizzhunt 1 month ago
Kobe based his entire game on MJ's, his fadeaways, his jumpers, his postgame, without Michael, there would be no Kobe.
tootietwister52 1 month ago
@tootietwister52,without Elgin Baylor,Oscar Robertson,Jerry West,and Dr. J their wouldn't be a MJ.
EmperorJBO 1 month ago
@tiger1649 See you lost me when you said Kobe is the Greatest ever Go Troll somewhere else sir who cares about a so called "legit" 60 point game... When you own the all time leading scorer avg at 30.12 ppg! 6x MVP 6x Finals MVP 10x Scoring Champ... I can go all day his impact will never be matched
gardenwalk23 1 month ago
This is how you end a conversation with anyone comparing Kobe to Jordan... "If Kobe isn't even the best player of his own Franchise Wilt,Kareem or Magic, how could he be better then the G.O.A.T"
gardenwalk23 1 month ago
@gardenwalk23 KOBE'S GREATEST GAME ARCHIVE MAKES JORDANS LOOK LIKE CHILDS PLAY! JORDAN DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN KOBE THAT WE CAN ((SEE))! ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BALL! THE VIDS TELLS THE REAL STORY WITHOUT THE HYPE! JORDAN DON'T EVEN HAVE A LIGETIMATE 60 PT GAME, THEY ALL NEEDED EXTRA HELP FROM THE CLOCK OR A WHO CARES LOSS! KOBES THE BEST TO EVER DO IT! AND THE VIDS SHOW IT! PERIOD!
tiger1649 1 month ago
No one will ever be as good as mj... due 2 how hyped he's got.... but 2daiis basketball... is different tactics... defending offensive different training...
MiniSulli91 1 month ago
whenever you said kobe is better, still it's mj's credit.... bcuz der was no other player like mj before mj, mj was competing to all the legends of nba before, but kobe was after in beating mj's record and was just also really inspired of mj. dey'r both great! kobe is awesome but still mj is the original hero of basketball. noone change the game and popularize the nba even more than mj...
forbchant 1 month ago
Kobe is a better shooter then micheal was but when Micheal was around 10 ft from the basket you might as well put the 2 on the score board already
Imaqes 1 month ago
@Imaqes Where does that fallacy of Kobe being a better shooter come from? That is easily proven false. Kobe and MJ's 3-point shooting is almost identical (Kobe is .001% higher) and MJ's 2-point shooting crushes Kobe. Kobe is a 45% shooter for his career and MJ is a 50% shooter. Which is better?
VinmanMJ23 3 weeks ago
@VinmanMJ23 Its shot selection. Jordan is probably the better overall player but Kobe is a slightly better shooter & scorer. The thing is that Jordan used his shooting ability wisely. They both had/have ridiculous ability to make extremely difficult shots but Kobe (for some odd reason) takes an absurd amount of tough/difficult/"what the fuck are you doing" shots (may be a little better at it).
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178 If he had a better shot selection he'd shoot a higher percentage. Jordan was a great shooter with good shot selection. Kobe is a slightly better shooter with bad shot selection.
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178
"Kobe is a slightly better shooter & scorer"
How?!!
The lack of common sense, logic & total disregarding of the FACTS by U Y2K kids is TRULY unbelievable..SMH
If he's such a "better scorer", how come U can't even SHOW from within his own offensive body of work, where's he's EVER consistently put up better offensive #s than MJ at ANY point in his career?!!
That makes NO SENSE at all!
Do U know how DUMB U sound?!!
That's like saying MJ's a better rebounder than Rodman..SMH
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@blackadam06 appaerently you didn't read what I said....lemme simplify. Based on WATCHING THEM PLAY (I will say that I've seen more Kobe games than Jordan tho) Kobe is a slightly better shooter (he's got more range and makes the toughest shots imaginable...even tougher than some of Jordan's most difficult shots). Stats are not the whole story. You gotta watch the games.
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178 Now at the same time, I'm saying that Jordan was a great shooter that has good shot selection. That's why his shooting % is higher than Kobe's. Their shooting skills are pretty even but I give the slight edge to Kobe. And if he had a better shot selection he's shoot a better percentage.
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178 ****Jordan was a great shooter and he had good shot selection. If Kobe had a better shot selection he'd shoot a better percentage.
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178
"Stats are not the whole story. You gotta watch the games"
You're right, but who said they were?
Too many times U kobe fans however, will TOTALLY disregard their on-court production (stats), which LITERALLY are the RESULTS of the very skill/talent/ability in question, just to make a more favorable comparison for him.
U cannot separate skill/ability (or on-court play) from their stats because they're a DIRECT REFLECTION of each other.
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@czar178
Stats reflect LIVE performance.
Always have and always will, and many of U kobe fans KNOW IT.
That's why so many of y'all go out of your way to try & dismiss them as it relates to him being compared to MJ, because U know that what you're saying ISN'T TRUE, but U just don't want to admit it.
No one who's allegedly inferior to the next guy at something, will consistently produce better results at it than him.
That's just common sense, something many of U kobe fans tend to lack..SMH
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@czar178
And the old "he has more range" claim is debatable too.
He just relies on the 3pt shot more than MJ, but isn't really all that much better from out there. He takes almost 3x as many of 'em as MJ, yet only holds a mere .0001% edge over him career wise (and that's ONLY in the reg season)!
What's that tell ya?!!
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@czar178
MJ has as many seasons as him shooting 35% in 3pt% and MORE than him shooting over that.
He also has more seasons (MJ 4 > KB 2) than kobe of shooting over the league avg in 3pt% as well.
Career 3pt%: MJ 32% -- KB 33%) <--- edge is in the reg season only
Career playoffs 3pt%: MJ 33% -- KB 33%
Career Finals 3pt%: MJ 37% -- KB 28%
Get the picture?
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@blackadam06 Yep...and if MJ had taken as many 3-pointers as Kobe, his shooting percentage would probably rise by at least .0001 on the sheer practice alone, LOL.
VinmanMJ23 3 weeks ago
@VinmanMJ23
Exactly...
It's like they don't understand what volume shooting is...SMH
Kobe throughout his career, has had stretches of games where he's missed JUST AS MANY 3ptrs in LESS amount of games played, than MJ missed in a entire season LOL!!
That's crazy LOL!!
An example of this can be seen in MJ's rookie season.
MJ shot 9-52 (17%) for that entire season.
Kobe shot a combined 10-57 (17%) in games 1-10; 5-23 and 61-62 of the 2006 season LOL!!
He shot JUST AS BAD as MJ in less games LOL!!
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@blackadam06
That just means you don't understand statistics. If one day I shot 0/1 for ten consecutive games, and then 8/8 for the next 72 games, your argument about shooting just as bad as MJ in less games would be the EXACT same. So your argument, at least statistically, is completely irrelevant.
musiccritic10 3 weeks ago
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@musiccritic10
"Kobe is on pace to [break] the [record] for [most missed] shots in a [career] in the late 2013 or early 2014 season, according to research by John Hollinger at ESPN. There's a [97 percent] chance of setting the mark which essentially means that [barring injury], he'll [hold that record]. His [current] rate is [866 misses] a season, which puts him 2,204 misses short of the record."
-- E. Carchia: "Kobe Bryant to Break The Record For Most Missed Shots in a Career"; Jan 20, 2011
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
1) jordan 2) kobe ok argument over love them both
EBsportswiz 1 month ago
@quickflip fuck you and kobes bitch ass! Go post a comment on a kobe video fag! Tryin to talk like a "grown" man when ur statements dont hold any weight. Callin jordan "nigger". Fuckin racist bastard! Put money on it u dont even play the game. Jus like 90% of kobes dick riding fans.
spoonfedek9 1 month ago
Look Kobe is great player but he is no where at all near Jordan and I'm a Lakers fan.
PurpleNGold23 1 month ago
@quickflip65 kobe is the biggest cry baby the sport has ever seen. there were players in jordan's days ten times greater than players nowadays. there was DEFENSE in jordan's days. they played for the game, not the money. jordan never lost a finals, kobe's lost a few. jordan made all defensive nba team nine times, i dont think kobe's ever made it. kobe just cares about the money.
MIGBruce2014 1 month ago
kobe career stats... 25.3 Ppg 0.5 Bpg 1.5 Spg 4.7 Apg 5.3 Rpg 45% FG...
jordan career stats.. 30.1 Ppg 0.8 Bpg 2.3 Spg 5.3 Apg 6.2 Rpg 49% FG..
jordan scored 32,292 points in 15 seasons 2 of them he played under 20 games
kobe scored 28,232 points in his 16th season..
jordan won MVP awards and championships till he was 36... scored 50+ when he was 40
kobe got swept by mavs last yr..
who's better now?
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MrNoShame17 1 month ago
@alex2322322 Stop being a fucken retard. Stats don't prove everything. Paul Pierce has bad stats but is a celtics legend and a future hall of famer. Larry Bird didn't nearly have the stats of Jordan, but has had the largest impact on the NBA ever, and, in my mind, by far the best player ever. A white boy who came in, turned the C's around and made the NBA what it is today.
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heydood1000 4 weeks ago
@alex2322322 kobe scored 81 pts in a game, Mj did not! all i'm saying is number can lie to you, so stop using then, but every knows Jordan is better, no need to compare them! it's not even worth it! But Kobe is the greatest palyer still playing! so you're right Mj is the best ever!
langedudesert 3 weeks ago
@langedudesert
"all i'm saying is number can lie to you"
Oh really?
"The numbers [don't lie]."
-- Kobe Bryant: "Kobe Bryant defends Lakers' defense"; by Dave McMenamin, ESPN.go . com, Jan 26, 2011
Even kobe disagrees with such nonsense LOL!!
FACT: for his career, kobe's avg'd 11.12 missed shots per game.
So I guess those #s are misleading or lying too huh?
SMH
U kobe homers are the kings of denying the facts...SMH
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@alex2322322 This debate is inarguable. We really cant say who
s better because they are in different generations. I'm not saying Kobe's better, but the game has changed after 10 years. Only if we can pit them against each other in a 1 on 1 game against each other in their prime, we can know, but we can't and that is the reality. Deal with the facts, and appreciate both players.
saqrahman24 2 weeks ago
I speak and write like a grown man. The arguments I have been trying to make are all clearly stated on my posts. I am very cognizant of the fact that majority of the people disagree with me. That is however, the beauty of this discourse. Perhaps your deliberately one-sided reasoning had prompted you to disregard other posts where I have been called names. Most of you are just trying to be thugs who don't have any balls but to jump on the bandwagon, and not have the ability to break your mindset.
quickflip65 1 month ago
Players back in the 80's were in total awe on what they were witnessing as they were mesmerized by the incredibly superior skills of nigger Jordan. They have never seen this kind of athletic performance before on the court. As a result, players venerate towards the nigger by giving him the ultimate respect on the hardwood floor. On the other hand, Kobe gets hounded and pounded by rough defenders like Raja Bell. He even got roughed up by Metta and Barnes when they played against him.
quickflip65 1 month ago
@quickflip65 watch your language. If you want to be seen as a "older" person instead of a "young buck" speak like a grown man or woman. NOT like a ignorant Young Buck...
@manson25lg good shit man, you been gone for a min. glad you're back.!
TheDrSLEEZY 1 month ago
@quickflip65 racist bitch
justinrocksit2 1 month ago in playlist basketball
@quickflip65 You had some good points, but I quickly realized how much of a "grown"man you really are when you started throwing racist comments. Get a life sir...
jizzhunt 1 month ago
@quickflip65
"Kobe gets hounded and pounded by rough defenders like Raja Bell. He even got roughed up by Metta"
U mean the same Raja Bell that 39 yr old MJ scored 30 pts on?
U mean the same Ron Artest...I mean Metta World Peace that 40 yr old MJ scored 27 pts on, and held him to 1-9 shooting?
You're no adult, just some dumb, clown ass of a kid who like most kids from this era, doesn't know WTF he's talkin' about..
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@blackadam06 Kobe's scored 30 or more on Bell & Artest as well...whats you point?
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178 ****your
czar178 3 weeks ago
@czar178
The point is when MJ did it, he was some 8-10 yrs past his prime!
So what do U think a prime MJ would do to these guys, especially under the rules of today?
He acts like those guys are greatest perimeter defenders the leagues ever seen or something..SMH
There were 6 perimeter guys in MJ's era (including himself) that won DPOY 8x amongst them. Wing players RARELY win this award!
How many perimeter guys have won it in the last 12 yrs?
That's right...1!! (Artest)
That's my point kiddo..SMH
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
That is the problem with you people, you assume that I am a young buck. I am probably older than most of you mother-fucking worthless thugs. People are aware of nigger Jordan's basketball prowess and I am not about to discredit his greatness. The point however is, during his era, there were only a handful of great players who posed as a contender when it came to skills. Even defenders, granted there was Michael Cooper of the Lakers but there has never been as many as this basketball era.
quickflip65 1 month ago
@quickflip65
"during his era, there were only a handful of great players who posed as a contender when it came to skills"
Yeah...now I KNOW you're 1 of these dumb ass Y2K kids, because U all employ the same, lame ass tactic to equate kobe with MJ.
U know that kobe's body of work & talents as a player won't get the job done on its own merit when compared to MJ, so U try to level the playing field by implying that there weren't many or no "skilled" guys back then.
You're a joke!
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
@quickflip65
"Even defenders..[..]..there has never been as many as this basketball era"
Idiot..SMH
There were "6" PERIMETER DPOY winners (including MJ) that won the award 8x amongst them during MJ's era(s).
How many from this era?
Oh that's right...1 (Ron Artest).
You're not fooling anyone kiddo..
You're just another 1 of these dumb ass, Y2K kiddie kobe fanboys who's DESPERATELY trying to level the field so that he can make a more favorable comparison for man-crush..
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
On the other hand, this is Kobe's 16th season and he is still performing phenomenally despite his recurring bodily injuries. If the ultimate lithmus test in basketball greatness were to be restrictly based on numbers of championships and accolates, then Bill Russell and Kareem would be on the top two. But like what I have pointed out earlier, I do believe that Kobe has both longetivity and endurance that makes his performance superior despite his relentlessly nagging bodily injuries.
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@quickflip65
" I do believe that Kobe has both longetivity and endurance that makes his performance superior"
SMH
Seasons of 80+ games played: MJ 11 > kobe 6
Seasons playing all 82 games: MJ 9 > kobe 4
Career mins per game: MJ 38.3 > kobe 36.4
MJ's only had 2 major injuries in his career
-- broken foot in '86 (missed 64 games)
-- knee with the Wiz in '02 (missed 22 games)
Other than that, he's had an UNREAL run of endurance & stamina the likes kobe has YET to come close to.
blackadam06 3 weeks ago
On the other ha
quickflip65 1 month ago
bmaga123, obviously you don't know how to reason as I never talked about accolades and statistics. I was clearly pointing out that history perhaps will judge the greatness of the two. I made a comparison based on what I believe, are the two most important factors in determining the level of ones skills. Those are, longetivity and the ability to cope with physical adversity while maintaining the level of your play. Nigger Jordan played horrible during his 13th and 14th year with the Wizards.
quickflip65 1 month ago
uickflip65 Lol, he was 40 when he played with the Wizards and you know what?? He still managed to avg. 20ppg at his age and score 51 pts.
tootietwister52 1 month ago
i love kobe he's my fav but even i know jordan is the overall better player. :)
rki1530 1 month ago
For those who think MJ is less Athletic then Kobe please type The Artistry of Michael Jordan on youtube and watch that video. Guarentee you will be picking your jaw up off the floor and feel like an idiot after you stupid comments. Young kids need to learn since they have little knowledge, if only you new what you missed.
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@bmaga123 Forget watching the artistry lets state facts JOrdan vertical is 48 inches its even higher then lebrons. Kobe has a vertical of 36 inches. Phil jackson even said it himself that jordan was stronger then Kobe. They both posses similiar skills but jordan athletic ability and better shot selection make him better then kobe. Jordan is better at finishing at the rim also.
spidamanluvsnikez 1 month ago
@bmaga123 Or do a search for "MJ posterizes Kendall Gill" and you'll see a 35-year-old MJ that is far more athletic than a 30-year old Kobe Bryant on both ends of the court.
VinmanMJ23 3 weeks ago
@VinmanMJ23
dude yeah, it's not like kobe ever gets injured or anything. and obviously when kobe's injured he never plays and decides to take a year off.
musiccritic10 3 weeks ago
@musiccritic10 Huh? I don't understand your comment. What is it in reference to? Can you clarify that? Thanks.
VinmanMJ23 3 weeks ago
Kobe couldnt do 90% of the moves Michael does in these videos. Being the hardcore NBA fan that I am I also no that MJ had a 48" Vertical while Kobe a 38" vertical. Jordan could palm the ball like a grape fruit and Kobe could barely palm it so Jordan had the tools to be much more athletic and he he showed it through out his career on much tougher defenses and no hand check rule.
bmaga123 1 month ago
Whoever said Bynum is a liability and not a factor for the Lakers is a moron. He is one of the top 2 centers in the league and some would argue he is better the DH. Look at the numbers he has been putting up.
bmaga123 1 month ago
Defense in todays game is a joke in comparison to the 80's and 90's. MJ could eassily avg 40+ a game in today game in his prime and Kobe wouldnt avg 20 in the 80's and 90's he would be forced to take all those horrible shots he throws up. Kobe is a great player overall but shouldnt even be mentioned with the likes of MJ. Kobe has 2 more seasons then MJ and still not even close in Points and his Averages and individual accomplishments and accolades dont compare.
bmaga123 1 month ago
@bmaga123 A man who knows the sport.
UTxMansonKnowz 1 month ago
(food chain) Kobe-Steak,Jordan-Epicness
MrBBALLER01 1 month ago
You can't really compare players from different eras, i think Kobe has been the best for a while and kobe being the best ended after they won in 2010, now i think were in the Lebron era probably, and then the kevin durant era after that
BigMackWitSauce 1 month ago
10 scoring champ 7 straight that sounds better than 1, 81 point game career avg. 31.2 regular season 33.4 in the fucking post season when kobe is no where to be found last 2 finals in games that really count referring to boston. ayo let me stop this is a joke kobe is good don't get me wrong but no mike you mad about the statue haaaaaaaa
lino2twelvinIT 1 month ago
LOL Kobe wasn't even a fucking starter in the beginning of that year shaq won them chips and shaq was the 3x final mvp in the first 3 peat, you could even tell me the bulls starting five in the first three peat without looking it up, pippen wasnt even shit when he came in the league jordan would wax that ass in practice and thats what made him ok are you fucking serious look at the teams he played in the playoffs compare to now who give a fuck about a 81 point you wanna compare stats go ahead ha
lino2twelvinIT 1 month ago
@quickflip65
Your ignorant (and racist) rhetoric doesn't even warrant an elaborate, fact filled rebuttal, because anyone can see it for the trolling nonsense that it is.
Go somewhere else kiddo...
blackadam06 1 month ago
When it comes to athleticism, no player on this planet past or present, would be able to replicate Kobe's moves. His shots require extremely difficult talent and physical ability to execute his accurate shots. When times Kobe is being hounded by very good defenders, he stil is able to out-step his defender and score points, even on a double-team with his quick spin or turn around. Nigger Jordan would not be great if there were great defenders during his time, like Metta.
quickflip65 1 month ago
@quickflip65 Are you serious? Kobe more athletic than Jordan? Clearly you don't what being athletic is. And to insult the old player is blasphemy. Kobe's Dick is so far in your in your mouth I know you look see shit objectively. Kobe got his moves from Jordan dumb ass.
UTxMansonKnowz 1 month ago
@UTxMansonKnowz,and where did MJ get his moves from?Have you ever watched Elgin baylor, Dr. J,Oscar Robertson, Jerry West?You think Jordan wasn't influence by any these guys.Everybody copies moves, what is your point?Moves get passed down.Jordan is great.Kobe is great.Both played in different circumstances.MJ was the face of the franchise & Kobe was an unknown coming off the bench.Flip the situation around and would MJ still won those MVPs if he was Kobe place playing with Shaq?
EmperorJBO 1 month ago
And as far as physical adversities, nobody can match Kobe's resilience maintaining his greatness. His work ethic is far more serious than nigger Jordan's as evidence by Kobe's multiple injuries. It is the public's mindset that mother fucking cocky nigger Jordan is the best player that ever lived on the planet. But the fact remains that nigger Jordan is obviously intimiidated by Kobe's legacy. Kobe never talked shit about the nigger while Jordan talks crap about Kobe all the time.
quickflip65 1 month ago
Jordan is one cocky mother fucker. Kobe is way more athletic than that negro.The nigger had already miserably faded at Kobe's age, During nigger Jordan's era, there were only a handful of superstar players. On the other hand, Kobe's entrance to professional basketaball was also the tiime where several high caliber players emerged. And it is continuing to produce excellent players the last 7 years. The point is, Kobe has been facing incredibly serious challegenes to maintain his great skills.
quickflip65 1 month ago
@quickflip65 Quite embarassing yourself with yuor lack of knowlege. Its obvious your young and a big time Kobe fan who cant admit the truth. Kobe is 32 years old now and Jordan was winning Championships and getting another MVP at this age LOL. Compare Jordan numbers, stats, individual accolades, to Kobe's they dont even compare MJ is superior in every category not to mention all the horrible shots Kobe takes.KObe has played 2 more seasons then MJ already and still doesnt have close to the point
bmaga123 1 month ago
@quickflip65 There is not one single thing in your comment that is true. Not one.
VinmanMJ23 3 weeks ago
Well, Kobe is no Jordan...
He is Kobe Bryant!
Hans234Olo 1 month ago
Jordan = Damn !
Kobe = ok...
baenacido 1 month ago
ambot oi
rivershand 1 month ago
correct kobe is no jordan but HE IS THE CLOSEST THING WE WILL EVER SEE TO MICHAEL JORDAN
DREisKING16 1 month ago
At 1:52 he shook off 8 tackles goddamn!!!
MultiUtubeD 1 month ago
Kobe could be better than MJ in bball and no one will ever consider him better for one reason: MJ popularized bball and went out as a hero, Kobe was so focused on bball he alienated his teammates and became a thug with rape charges, therefore everyone hates Kobe and everyone loves MJ, nothing will change that
movalcadillac 1 month ago
@movalcadillac If someone surpasses Jordan, they'd have to average at least 50-60 points per game.
sk8ervzla 1 month ago
@movalcadillac
"Kobe could be better than MJ in bball"
Oh yeah?
Prove it....
Show us from within his on-court productivity regarding the various facets of the game, where's he's consistently been "better" at them than MJ (save for reg season 3pt shooting).
He's played under rules that FAVORS guys like himself & MJ going on the the last 7 seasons now, and has yet to put up 1 season that's equal to or better than MJ's best 4 seasons..SMH
So where's the proof for your claims?
blackadam06 1 month ago
Sorry ppl......if Mike were playing in this watered-down version of the N.B.A. he would probably average a realistic 40+ per game.....and we're all so wowed by his scoring that we tend to forget that he actually played DEFENSE!! Perenial 1st Team Defense member....and he imposed his will on the game...He controlled the game, the game didn't control him...
hulkdaddy71 1 month ago
Michael jordan is michael jordan. 6 rings to his name
Kobe is his own person. he does his own things. and has 5 rings to his name.
kobe is no michael.. kobe is his own person.
JOSE90635 1 month ago
@JOSE90635 3 of those 5 rings with Shaquille having a more important role than Kobe
xaviqaz 1 month ago
@xaviqaz lol so Lebrons wont count if he wins cause Wade will play better in the finals than Lebron...just like last season then
8MunchenBayern8 1 month ago
It is hard to compare jordan with kobe since they are from 2 different era. They are both dominant in their career. However, there is 1 difference. Jordan is the GOD in basketball and every 1 respects his legacy and his talent. Whereas kobe, he tries to be the god in basketball, tries to be like jordan. Jordan made NBA to its peak in the 90s when every 1 wore his 23 jersey. But I dont think kobe has reached that kindda level yet and I doubt he will. Michael Jordan for life in basketball!
SuperSupraWei 1 month ago
OMG!! Look at 10:13!! Is he even human?
MoreEvilThanNorman 1 month ago
exactly why you dont see people walking aroung wearing kobies, they wear Jordans
Samson8171 1 month ago
@Samson8171 I would be pissed if I walked in my closet and I saw Kobes where my Jordans are suppose to be.
tigertic1 1 month ago
2:50 THATS FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEARCH BASKETBALL ON WIKIPEDIA THEY HAVE JORDANS PICTURE RIGHT ON THERE GOES TO SHOW JORDAN WAS THE GREATEST OTHER MIGHT BE THE BEST BUT JORDAN WILL FOREVER BE THE FACE OF BASKETBALL.
plantain007 2 months ago
Jordan is the best but I'm from LA so I will always like Kobe more even when he does dumb shit like throw the ball away in the crunch then do a dumb ass floater and get blocked.
TommyTonic10 2 months ago
look at how he steps up in the air at 10:23
TheAdenviolet 2 months ago
@bmaga123 i agree w/ u dude.....
1968joseleon 2 months ago
I like the Kobe vs Jordan comparison, but there is 1 problem. You can't compare the two because they are from different eras. If you don't believe me, then compare Jordan to Oscar Robertson and you will find something very interesting. We all are fans and we all have our favs. I am a Jordan fan and actually a Kobe fan for life. LOL... By the way, I pulled the stats for Oscar and compared them to Jordan and I was competely blown away. Also, u can't just compare by rings as Russell has more rings.
mnash3 2 months ago
@mnash3 +1000000
wolfpacguy 1 month ago
@mnash3
"You can't compare the two because they are from different eras"
Sure U can because their careers/eras overlap.
Not to mention they played in the SAME offense for the SAME coach for a MORE THAN comparable amount of seasons.
blackadam06 1 month ago
@bla-I will still have 2 respectfully disagree. Overlapping eras is not the same as playing the same era. The term era refers 2 when the players are in their prime &/or a players dominance can be directly tied to the 'cause for another player not getting their rings. Jordan(1984-03); Kobe(1996-pres). Kobe clearly not in his prime in the late 90's. Sure u can compare from ur perspectictive, but the comparison of who's better statistically esp. w/NBA rule changes is not possible.Just fun 2 do.LOL.
mnash3 1 month ago
@mnash3
1st half of the '02 season
MJ: 25ppg 6rpg 5apg 47.2 FG%
KB: 26ppg 5rpg 5apg 45.4 FG% <--- prime yrs
That's what a 39 yr old MJ was doing right B4 his '02 All Star break injury.
Overall season avg in '02
MJ: 23ppg 5apg 5rpg 42.1 FG% <--- post injury
KB: 25ppg 5apg 5rpg 46.3 FG%
He avg'd 24ppg on 47.1 FG% in 107 of his 142 games (75% of his total games) in Washington, when the league avg at that time was only 44.5 FG%.
A PRIME MJ under today's rules would piss on today's NBA...
blackadam06 1 month ago
@blackadam06 - Thanks for the feedback. My hopes are that u were able to c my point on why technically we really can not compare them, but it's just fun 2 do. As far as I am concerned, when u look at Kobe, he is strong, but he does not look it. When u look at Jordan earlier in his career, u can see the dramatic difference in his physique during his dominance. Kobe is still skinny which let's u know how finesse the league is compared to the beatings Jordan took. But like I said, if u really...
mnash3 1 month ago
@bl- if u really want to be entertained, then take a look at the stats of Oscar Robertson and compare them to Jordan. U will or should be thoroughly entertained. This just further re-emphasizes how comparisons are fun, but the end result should be that it is just fun as the eras make a huge difference. As an aside, there are actually a number of guyz who have more rings than Jordan, but the thing that sets Jordan apart from others that makes him the greatest is his dominance to earn the rings.
mnash3 1 month ago
@mnash3
I'm WELL AWARE of Oscar's exploits and he's DEFINITELY 1 of the greatest ever. But Y2K kids and this microwave "what have U done 4 me lately" media never gives him his just due.
He avg'd 25/9/7 for his career.
During the pre triangle/pippen yrs, MJ's combined avg was 32/8/6. But what puts MJ into another stratosphere was his unparalleled athleticism in his prime.
That's what KILLS any comparison (on top of the consistently gaudy & unreal #s) with the others they compare to him.
blackadam06 1 month ago
@blackadam06 - I agree that media really misses out on a great opportunity to highlight truly great players. I do like that NBATV plays some of the older games. For many to appreciate such things as Oscar averaging a triple double for an entire season, it can be overshadowed by a summary stat from Wikipedia. The devil is truly in the details and many should check the almanac for Oscars stats.
mnash3 1 month ago
@bla- It is not possible to compare eras as in Oscar's era, the dominant players had to check ea other which was not required in Jordan's era. I got into an argument with a cat much older than me about who was the greatest ever to play the game, but when I pulled Oscars stats & learned more about the game, I was completely blown away at his stats. Rings do count & Jordan's resume is impressive; so I still ride &die with Jordan, but at the same time, every1 should recognize O's greatness as well.
mnash3 1 month ago
@mnash3
"the dominant players had to check ea other which was not required in Jordan's era"
???
blackadam06 1 month ago
@blackadam06 - The best way to think about it is to think of the NBA/current league as a superstar driven league. To really get the meat and potatoes of what I am referring to, you will have to do some research into the old basketball archives. There may be some videos on YouTube that better explain this concept.
mnash3 1 month ago
@mnash3,who cares about russell, Bill russell was on the most stacked teams in NBA history.Played with more hall of famers than anyone else.Why you think no one really mentions russelll as the greatest of all time?Phil jackson has more rings than russell.
EmperorJBO 1 month ago
@EmperorJBO - I apologize, but I think you missed the point in my statement. Many who do not know basketball history, just think Jordan is the greatest because of his number of rings. Robert Horry actually has more rings, but I would not consider Big Shot Rob a dominant player. Russell, although dominant in his own way, can not be in the list of most dominant for the reason that you mentioned e.g. stacked team. By the way, Phil may have more rings as a coach, but that is a differnt topic. LOL.
mnash3 1 month ago
Can kobe fly? Didnt think so...
iZain23 2 months ago
press 5 repeatedly for mj giving a bj on the ball
dnrwls93 2 months ago
If you think kobe is better than jordan,slap yourself
ATXbosshogga44 2 months ago
kareem abdul jabbar anyone?
TheDocsoso 2 months ago
everything about Jordan and his career was amazing, it's just a shame that he's a dickhead.
wintensity 2 months ago
@wintensity this is true, but Kobe is a bigger one...
MrBearcat25 2 months ago
I'm sorry, but this is a joke right? Kobe has been better for the past 3 years people! He overtook Jordan when he won the last 2 titles without an all-star or superstar caliber player, unlike Jordan, who was carried by Pippen!
/Kobe fans
deniatus 2 months ago
@deniatus lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AlphaMale505 2 months ago
@deniatus WTF your a joke, do you know who Pau Gasol is? Kobe declines in performance in the finals. Each one of Kobe's championships he had a dominating Center. Name another team other then Jordan's Bulls who won a championship with out a dominating Center? Jordan 6 for 6 in finals with 6 finals MVPs. Kobe has 2 finals MVP's one of which he didnt deserve. Also Kobe has one Season MVP to MJ's 5 and I am not even getting into the shooting percentage efficiency differences which isnt even close.
bmaga123 2 months ago
@bmaga123
Relax, it was a joke as evidenced by the "/Kobe fans" remark.
Only someone not in their right mind would think Kobe >= Jordan
deniatus 2 months ago