Our beloved Deedat made those two missionaries clown look like an idiot infrot of those would be converts . Those two clowns didnt even know their bible by heart and soul. how pathetic these so called missionaries.
i wander what happent to these two clows?. Perhaps they become athies or revert to Islam. who knows.
When Jesus said my god my god why have you forsaken me?I ask who was he talking to? himself? Can you say the three are one? No this proves jesus being divine could work is if he is another god. Which Christians consider that blasphemy. What I hate about any missionary is that they aren't out to hear your side they are only out convert.
I am Christian and have questioned and I wouldn't convert a Muslim because Jewish and Muslim doctrine seems more sound. I believe Deut6:4 over the trinity
Amazing.... to witness the ignorance and illogical reasoning that drives these Christians to worship a man.
They worship the creation and not the creator, so it makes sense that the christian faith is dwindling by the numbers.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.... because when truth collides against falsehood, it shatters falsehood and leaves it unconscious on the roadside.
..the Christian understand the Bible with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit, the author of the Bible (yeah thru 40 people inspired by the Holy Spirit)..thats why the world agrees with dedar and not Christians..bcoz others don't know the truth behind the words in the bible.deedar more towards winning the debate..he is not giving chance for others to explain..he gets angry and stops them.Deedar is a classic example of a man who is pride of his head knowledge.Wise listens to others as well.
Jesus said her ' Why did you look for me? Don't you know that I have to be after my Father's Work?'..He has to segregate Himself because He knew from the beginning there will be a group who will make Mary a goddess..and will send prayers thru her..thats why Jesus gave a clear message ' Mary was just an instrument to bring Him to the world'..and nothing to do with His function as saviour..clear deedar..oops..too late..deedar talks of the bible facts according to his own understanding..but..
Deedar's explanation are all bullshits.. He is comparing Jesus with ordinary human beings who are born of blood and flesh...yes Jesus called Mary 'woman' and not mother.we notice that from the beginning Jesus has segregat Himself from Mary and Joseph..when He was 12..the parents took Him to Jerusalem..there he leaves behind and talk to the rabbis...Mary says to Jesus ' Son; why u did this to us..We have been looking for you everywhere'.
the series of this video are vital for anyone that's interested in theology...it's not about who's wrong / right, it's about appreciating the phenomenal debates between both parties...for whenever a person / group or a concept claims to be "the truth", it will be confuted with reality...
@TruthBroadcasting your book is currupt, the quran tells the story of Jesus better than yours, you say we follow satan ? lol well see in the day of judgment who followed who,
Ahmad Deedat, rahmatullah alaihi, dropped an elbow from the top rope and drove those two blind-bat's heads through the canvas. The dope's thumbing through the Bible in the back must of created some ruthless blisters. Ahmad's knack of making Christians return to the drawing board is proof of the truth of the message of Islam.
is it just me or is the brother missionary, not Basel but the other one, acting like a huge douche? He seemes to be scared shi*tless. I love you brother Deedat (RAHEEMULLAH)!
i wish i cud be there.....Lord & Satan part which Missionaries avoided it by saying translation problem..the most hilarious and dumbest logic i ever heard......i cudn't control myself laughing out loud unless ended up tears if i were there...may be thats why i wasn't there...lolzzzzz
they are called chirstian missnaries and they are not smart. at one time on the video the chirstian missionary says supposed means not.. how can it be? then he cant find the verse, deedat finds it for him. then deedat shows him contacts where it can be found. you see these chirstians knows that their are mistakes in the bible but they just defend it for political or other purposes...anyway people know islam, u dont have to become muslim to know islam.. peace
2degucitas Christians arent as unwise as moslems.
Jesus OUR prophet told us we can't serve 2 masters ie 2 Gods we would either love 1 & hate the other. Christians love the God of Bible & hate god of quran.
Moreover, you show that your unwise cos if your god hadn't corrupted his past books unlike our God you could look in Scripture Genesis 18 There you will see The God of Abraham APPEARING 2 him as a man.
This is not the god of islam so your statemen about both cases is unwise=foolish
Dumbo havent you ever read: Jesus is First and the Last, The Begining and the End. It Ends with Jesus dumbo...not with your empty words.
Evidently Moslems are the most stupid
of all when it comes to religion. They claim jews rejected god- Yet muslims do same foolish 'thing' God charged Jews with -claiming they worship God when they don't.
Muslims Worship God in vain because their hearts are far from him.
In vain you say shahada; in vain the hajj; in vain the salat;in vain Ramadan.
Not rude to term you Dumbo- cos its a play on words ie Dumbo had big ears so his hearing should be good.
So should yours if you say you are Christian?
In your first account you stated Moslems & Christians SERVE same God- which I clearly refuted you in my comment. Your 2nd comment didn't endorse your 1st but backed my refutation- You CHANGED from stating they SERVE same God to moslems SAY they worship same God. Serving and Saying 2 different things.
Ok whatever. I'm not going to fight you. Go fight someone else. I said plainly and simply that Moslems and Christians both SAY they serve the God of Abraham. It's a fact. No more talking with you.
@2degucitas u stupid cause christians say their GOD is jesus, but the GOD of abraham is not jesus, the GOD of Abraham is the 1 who sent jesus' the same 1 which jesus said is greater than him, and wen 1thing is greater than another thing, it mean that' that other thing is lesser, and if u say lesser and greater is equal you dumb nuh rass
@2degucitas christianity is not di religion which GOD give, cause the word christianity dont even mention in the bible itself, numbers 23 v.19 says GOD is not a man, nor is he the son of man, jesus was a man and even call himself the son of man in red letters in the bible so if he's GOD like the christians say then number23 v.19 is wrong// but wen christians read this comment they will just push this simple understandable truth underneath the carpet typical dem, u all need to start be honest
watcher4234, there are those who are ashamed and afraid of the truth. If you're truely insulted by this video, I appologize. But, if you feel that you're insulted because Sheikh Deedat's arguments makes you ashamed and/or afraid of your belief system, then I wont appologize and I would advise you not to become a Muslim.
Your quiet funny my friend ive watched the whole thing from d beggening not once did ahmed put anyone down. They were having an argument based on purely logic so who ever doesnt have enough logic looked like they've been put down. Surely if the christians had won this debate ahmed deedat would seemd 2 be put down. If your going to turn away from the truth and God only coz there r few things u dont like about d PEOPLE n not what d religon teaches it self than that is totaly up to u.
Watcher, I assure you as a student of World Religions that Islam does not insult Christians. It's a fact that in the beginning Mohammed urged his followers to protect "the people of the book." in reality there are more Christians in the streets insulting not just Islam, but all religions from Buddhism to Taoism.
you said "I don't understand how or where in your Qur'an it gives you the right to insult Christians, on a public forum for all eyes to see." what i want you to understand that we can say the same about Christianity and the bible. It's individuals not the books of faith that make religions bad.
correct because just as there are those extremist in Islam there are those extremist in Christianity. they can call themselves true believers but they fail to understand the meaning of their faiths.
prove to me that what i believe in is false... cant? you believe how u want to believe and i believe how i want to believe and stop being ignorant and bias.
In Quran the God tells us to have reason with people of book...and in that whole debate Deedat didn't insulted you Yer bible in itself is an insult to all of you he only told you the facts and figures.Bible is full of pornography,prophets portrayed as winebibbers,adulterers,incest commiters and they get rid of this all while the God is portrayed as something down under ground from who's nostrils it comes smoke and Fire from the Mouth..is it God or a Dragon? christians FOLLOW PAUL THE LIAR.
Well not so fast. Are we speaking of symbolism??? many people for different culture would represent got as a dragon. i forgot the name but dragons can symbolize unmovable forces, or strength. Now my next question, do you muslims agree that they are relatives to Jewish people? because both did come from Abe, right?
Well its not matter of Symbolising the God...In Judo-christian tradition your concept of God"And Adam heard the God walking in the cool of the day"Genesis..you tell me if God walks,he must has Legs that makes sounds when he walks.if he has legs he must have upper part like you and me...But second person of trinity says "that those who worship God should worship him in Spirit not in size shape " what a contradiction..you didn't say about the Pornography and blessing of yer God on incest committer
But it could have been an alien for all i know. look i dont worship in any of these religions, as a interest in the issues i wanna know why people say that there is Violence encourage in the Qu'ran, and why theres contradictions in the bible & Jewish book.
Alright, Truth yes Abraham had two sons first Ishmael(the father of arabs) second was Isaac(from which all the famous prophets came but the last peophet didn't came it came from the Ishmael bloodline).Brother Quran doesn't encourage the violence whenever it says "cut their throats or kill the jews) the verses came before battle.Allah allows us to fight only in battle and to protect ourself against evil plus with these verses God said not kill women or children after battle.
In bible God commanded Moses(according to Bible) that Kill the whole Palestinians,animals don't allow even sucklers(infants) to be alive. you brought one verse from Quran which encourage violence which says to Muslims beside the battle kill the people or it encourages the violence...you are talking about a book you have never read the Quran and saying "why people say......"....i don't believe in what someone think until i watch with my own eyes
Look i know that, but i just want muslims explanation on that, so when i argue wit people about it i know what im talking about. Im not here to question anything. However, I have friends who are catholic and they always bring up the part that "encourage" violence. So it's not because i think it its because i wanna be able to argue with people lol thats all.
Alright Next time whatever the Verse he will take to ya....give it to me i will explain it to ya...you know argument can't go in comments so mostly i hide comments before watcing any video 'cos i don't like to argue on internet through limited character count. Anyhow you always welcome any thing they brought to ya tell me..to be honest i find 95% of christians or catholics have never opened Quran in their life neither they know aout their own bible they make religion outta phrase.
My dear Brother, you are right, no Muslim, actually no human being has the right to insult others and it does not matter if the one is a Muslim himself, a Jew, a Christian or Buddhist.
And NO, that is NOT the way of Islam and nobody give us the right to offend others.
But you gave the Answer yourself,
these are faults of people.
People get emotional and diss.
Because we Muslim claim to have the last Revelation.
But i excause for the behavior of some of my Muslim Brothers. :)
We muslims are not provoking you guys...It is our duty to correct you when you're wrong...WHY? BECAUSE we LOVE you...and we will do whatever it takes to deliver the message...We are doing everything thing we can to save your lives.
Deedat is a great debate, he destroys most Christians in any religious, moral argument - BUT, he would not have been able to hold a candle against a well schooled, very intelligent Existentialist.
Well if you go to a court of law and make an accusation, the judge would ask you to provide evidence.
You have made an accusation that Deedat would not hold himself infront of a existentialist, you provide no evidence. unfortunatly you dont have any so you are in no position and have no warrent to past such accusation, making your statement concerning Deedat futile.
You're not making the most logical point there brother because one could also argue that an existentialist could not hold a handle a candle against a master theologian like Deedat. Just because he did not sit in the classroom and listened to the secular nonsense, do not let that fool you my brother, his intellect far exceeds simple common sense, it is a girft from God and that in my opinion shatters the circular and delusional reasoning of those "existentialist"
Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:
God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran 60:8)
ty now why is it, according to the media, that Osama and other known terrorist are using the muslim religion as their reason? now plz correct me if im wrong. also, can you explain to me the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelites?
Dear Bro, you've said "according to the media" not to Our holy book "Quran", which is the foundation of Islam. Quran does not contain that kind of rubbish like what Osama and other terrorists did. They truely and surely miss their way!! Do you know why?
They misinterpret the teachings of Islam, which means peace, and they have been motivated by revenge for the sake of our brothers "The Palestinians" while the whole world is watching in silence for more than 50 years.
Let's agree first that this conflict does not come from the foundation of Islam, which is "Quran", after that, any human act wether good or bad can be interpreted and justified according to human nature, psycology and the environment.
That's right. Now there is a big difference between "Judism" as a relegin and "Zionism" which is a political movement. Zionists ideology holds that the Jews are a people or nation like any other, and should gather together in a single homeland. Therefore, they came to the Palestinians and forced them out. Oppositionists to Zionism amongsts jews are increasing rapidly especially in USA. The oppositionists say that they are "Jews" not "Zionists" which means we are godly people not terrorists!
Yes bro. also Muslim extremists can not be dismissed. All extremists of any religion tend to enforce their teachings to serve their political attitudes, power and money.
yes my friend Allah will judge us when we die. But note that what arabs call Allah, simply means God. So if you already believe in God by been a muslim you still worship the same God, only the terms have changed and you only pray to him.. Not to jesus(pbuh) or not to the holy ghost.
ah thank you, as a student of world religions it really intrigues me of the commonality between judaism, christianity, and islam. I think the foundation of all three like other world religions have a beauty to them.
UGH!!! Whitemen r so snobbish.... claimed to be superior over many countries. There aren't any proof bout the concept of trinity and u wont find it in the original biblical texts! Its merely an artificial ideology injcted thru the teachings of christianity by pagan worshippers.
Christians are so Dumb, they have no knowledge of their own scriptures. Look at them, Look at how they hastily search through their scriptures, they have no understand of what is in their book or what it says. Christianity is not a religion, it is a mockery of faith. Which is why the best businesses in the united`states are churches, no surprise there. Christians care nothing for the poor and they feed their children on Usury, shame on what Christianity has become!
this christian missionarie is DEAF DUMB AND BLIND. AND A ARROGANT FOOL. WHAT A STUPID GENUINE BASTARD.CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ENGLISH...WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!
any of u guys ever watch muslim lost a debate with christian???...NEVER! becos there is none!!! we've won all the time...we won by using thier own "WORD OF GOD" that is written in the bible...we never makes things up...hahahaha funny things christian cant use the same technic upon us becos Our WORDS OF GOD the HOLY QURAN is truly comes from god himself that is ALLAH the ALMIGHTY!! ALLAHUAKBAR!!!
Thank you so much for this video...I stayed up till almost 5am in the morning to watch all the vids...These Christians dont seem to accept defeat...Ahmed Deedat just powned them. Those of u wo are "christians", please judge for your self!! May Allah Reward you for these great videos...
what a pathetic comments that christian fellow made, really to so childish and trying to manipulate every meaning of word instead of listening to the concept is just sooo stupid. He looks like an twitchy panicking chicken. Dear friends, The Qur'an does not contradict, is perfect, and above that contains incredible miracles and complexity no man can ever make. SubhanAllah may Allah bless deedat with jennat ul firdaus Amiin
make paper airplanes of the pages of ur books and go play outside ... and while ur out .. take a lil' walk to the books store and buy the Quran .. god bless ur soul
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Thanks for the blessing. I wish you logic and reason enough to question why allah and all of the other gods still believed to be 'true' are not on the trash heap with the thousands of other gods that were blown up, cut down, broken and discarded by Jews, Christians and Muslims!
The 2 Quran verses doesn't contradict. At the time of Moses, the jews then who followed him would be saved. So will the followers of Jesus during his time, they will be saved. Christians present day will not, because they have gone off.
what a moron that white missionary is. he was trying to say that HEAVEN doesnt mean heaven. if i was deedat i woulda thrown him out right there and then.
but then if Deedat throw him out, then they'll say Muslims over react! I wish Mr Funny-Missionary would listen to what Mr Deedat said rather than denying all the way
All what I can say is that im convenice of what Br dedat is saying and the gentelman facing him is just arguing with no aim to understand he just want to argue and say that the islam is not true , but i relly feel that after he left he really thought of it and im sure that this man died as a muslim and not a christain.
Brother its not allowed to disrespect any1 like this. Rasool SAW prayed for Umar bin khattab when he was against islam that may Allah send him in Islam and He(Allah) did that and u can see that how much benifits we Islam got through the great caliph Umar subhan Allah.
This white man, didn't agree with anything in the whole Conversation, either with Bible (translation) or Quran... White man wanted to get some publicity, however Deedate kicks him below belt so beautifully..
Chrishtian brother/Dude says he wants to get down to the nity gritty details of the topic and dats what Brother Deedat was doing. I wonder how else could Br Deedat explain his point.(Bottom line is many people dont want to be proven worng no matter wt u do as our christian brother was doing.
amazing video! it was long though. but worth it. this kind of gathering is more beneficial to watch because then we can see the christian response followed by deedat's refutation.
The Christian friend sat on the right - he asks for Br. Deedat to prove the Quran is authentic, then he doesn't give the chance for an explanation to be given ... it's not really an acceptable way for a dialogue.
He says I don't accept this wording/translation whenever Br. Deedat shows a problem with the bible, then he uses the same bible and says this is true word of God - paradoxical.
Chrisitan friend asks for a contradiction in bible and Br. Deedat quotes a verse from bible which uses the word "God" and the same verse in another version uses "Satan". The Christian disregards it as saying this is an error of translation and not a contradiction.
If the word "Lord" was used instead of "Satan", we could accept translation difference in using "God" and "Lord", but would accept as same core message.
BUT if the word used has a totally "opposite" meaning, it is NOT a translation error and was a genuine entry by the author, proving the contradiction.
Even if it was "just a translation error", you have no right to say it is "still the uncorrupted word of God with no error", because it clearly does have a translation error.
Quran says Jews/Christians (ppl of Book) will go to heaven, and Quran says only Muslims will go to heaven - not a contradiction.
The label "Jew"/"Christian" is just a label; Quran refers not to the entire populations that have these labels, it refers to the subsets of those "labelled-populations" and any other people(s) who "submit to God's will", i.e. follow Islam in essence. The original Jews/Christians did follow Islam in essence, i.e. submitted to the will of God.
Our beloved Deedat made those two missionaries clown look like an idiot infrot of those would be converts . Those two clowns didnt even know their bible by heart and soul. how pathetic these so called missionaries.
i wander what happent to these two clows?. Perhaps they become athies or revert to Islam. who knows.
wira1800 5 months ago
hhahah I love Deedat
He raped them both XD
SuperZorro92 6 months ago
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laharl46 6 months ago
When Jesus said my god my god why have you forsaken me?I ask who was he talking to? himself? Can you say the three are one? No this proves jesus being divine could work is if he is another god. Which Christians consider that blasphemy. What I hate about any missionary is that they aren't out to hear your side they are only out convert.
I am Christian and have questioned and I wouldn't convert a Muslim because Jewish and Muslim doctrine seems more sound. I believe Deut6:4 over the trinity
laharl46 6 months ago
Amazing.... to witness the ignorance and illogical reasoning that drives these Christians to worship a man.
They worship the creation and not the creator, so it makes sense that the christian faith is dwindling by the numbers.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.... because when truth collides against falsehood, it shatters falsehood and leaves it unconscious on the roadside.
hafizf86 7 months ago
..the Christian understand the Bible with the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit, the author of the Bible (yeah thru 40 people inspired by the Holy Spirit)..thats why the world agrees with dedar and not Christians..bcoz others don't know the truth behind the words in the bible.deedar more towards winning the debate..he is not giving chance for others to explain..he gets angry and stops them.Deedar is a classic example of a man who is pride of his head knowledge.Wise listens to others as well.
watchoutyawords 1 year ago
Jesus said her ' Why did you look for me? Don't you know that I have to be after my Father's Work?'..He has to segregate Himself because He knew from the beginning there will be a group who will make Mary a goddess..and will send prayers thru her..thats why Jesus gave a clear message ' Mary was just an instrument to bring Him to the world'..and nothing to do with His function as saviour..clear deedar..oops..too late..deedar talks of the bible facts according to his own understanding..but..
watchoutyawords 1 year ago
Deedar's explanation are all bullshits.. He is comparing Jesus with ordinary human beings who are born of blood and flesh...yes Jesus called Mary 'woman' and not mother.we notice that from the beginning Jesus has segregat Himself from Mary and Joseph..when He was 12..the parents took Him to Jerusalem..there he leaves behind and talk to the rabbis...Mary says to Jesus ' Son; why u did this to us..We have been looking for you everywhere'.
watchoutyawords 1 year ago
@christ4all2allmyall. "Get away from me! I do not know you! ..... They but followed the teachings of men"
MrJonesgg 1 year ago
@IslamicFollies can u show me what "hateful words" u are referring to please..thanks
MrJonesgg 1 year ago
READ MATTHEW: CH7 VERSE21
sangarkurd09 1 year ago
the series of this video are vital for anyone that's interested in theology...it's not about who's wrong / right, it's about appreciating the phenomenal debates between both parties...for whenever a person / group or a concept claims to be "the truth", it will be confuted with reality...
i learned a lot... i thank these scholars...
afterray 1 year ago
@TruthBroadcasting your book is currupt, the quran tells the story of Jesus better than yours, you say we follow satan ? lol well see in the day of judgment who followed who,
bakkaoui 1 year ago
July 1 . Happy Belated Birthday . Uncle Ahmed Deedat ( May Allah Bless you in his mercy ) you're my hero :)
oOoKhaledoOo 1 year ago
Ahmad Deedat, rahmatullah alaihi, dropped an elbow from the top rope and drove those two blind-bat's heads through the canvas. The dope's thumbing through the Bible in the back must of created some ruthless blisters. Ahmad's knack of making Christians return to the drawing board is proof of the truth of the message of Islam.
tadpoleposition 1 year ago 4
ahmad deedat i like you for the seek of allah and may allah grand you to the jantulfirdous
allhuakbar1 1 year ago
is it just me or is the brother missionary, not Basel but the other one, acting like a huge douche? He seemes to be scared shi*tless. I love you brother Deedat (RAHEEMULLAH)!
oilsfan666 1 year ago
As usual no christian born could of replied to deedats arguments not even the pope!!
sdiablos 1 year ago 3
Both religions are derived from Egyptian,Sumerian,Canaanite and Brahmin mythologies.Stop being mind numbed slaves.Think for yourselves.
lipoicacid 2 years ago
@lipoicacid you are right but they won't admit it.
2degucitas 1 year ago
the brother in white shirt seems so quiet in the end.. is he still a christian? just curious
june4688 2 years ago
i wish i cud be there.....Lord & Satan part which Missionaries avoided it by saying translation problem..the most hilarious and dumbest logic i ever heard......i cudn't control myself laughing out loud unless ended up tears if i were there...may be thats why i wasn't there...lolzzzzz
touahmed 2 years ago
finish ???
TheCoolmuslim 2 years ago
they are called chirstian missnaries and they are not smart. at one time on the video the chirstian missionary says supposed means not.. how can it be? then he cant find the verse, deedat finds it for him. then deedat shows him contacts where it can be found. you see these chirstians knows that their are mistakes in the bible but they just defend it for political or other purposes...anyway people know islam, u dont have to become muslim to know islam.. peace
aref9494 2 years ago
Moslems and Christians serve the same God!!! It is the god of Abraham in both cases!!
2degucitas 2 years ago
2degucitas Christians arent as unwise as moslems.
Jesus OUR prophet told us we can't serve 2 masters ie 2 Gods we would either love 1 & hate the other. Christians love the God of Bible & hate god of quran.
Moreover, you show that your unwise cos if your god hadn't corrupted his past books unlike our God you could look in Scripture Genesis 18 There you will see The God of Abraham APPEARING 2 him as a man.
This is not the god of islam so your statemen about both cases is unwise=foolish
christ4all2allmyall 2 years ago
No, the Mooslem say they worship the God od Abraham, as do the Christians. End of story.
2degucitas 2 years ago
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Dumbo havent you ever read: Jesus is First and the Last, The Begining and the End. It Ends with Jesus dumbo...not with your empty words.
Evidently Moslems are the most stupid
of all when it comes to religion. They claim jews rejected god- Yet muslims do same foolish 'thing' God charged Jews with -claiming they worship God when they don't.
Muslims Worship God in vain because their hearts are far from him.
In vain you say shahada; in vain the hajj; in vain the salat;in vain Ramadan.
christ4all2allmyall 2 years ago
How rude to call me Dumbo. I am a christian, so don't preach at me. Jesus would not call someone dumb. Go yell at someone else.
2degucitas 2 years ago
Not rude to term you Dumbo- cos its a play on words ie Dumbo had big ears so his hearing should be good.
So should yours if you say you are Christian?
In your first account you stated Moslems & Christians SERVE same God- which I clearly refuted you in my comment. Your 2nd comment didn't endorse your 1st but backed my refutation- You CHANGED from stating they SERVE same God to moslems SAY they worship same God. Serving and Saying 2 different things.
Have u read the bible? Romans 10!
christ4all2allmyall 2 years ago
Ok whatever. I'm not going to fight you. Go fight someone else. I said plainly and simply that Moslems and Christians both SAY they serve the God of Abraham. It's a fact. No more talking with you.
2degucitas 2 years ago
@2degucitas u stupid cause christians say their GOD is jesus, but the GOD of abraham is not jesus, the GOD of Abraham is the 1 who sent jesus' the same 1 which jesus said is greater than him, and wen 1thing is greater than another thing, it mean that' that other thing is lesser, and if u say lesser and greater is equal you dumb nuh rass
NATURLIST 1 year ago
@2degucitas christianity is not di religion which GOD give, cause the word christianity dont even mention in the bible itself, numbers 23 v.19 says GOD is not a man, nor is he the son of man, jesus was a man and even call himself the son of man in red letters in the bible so if he's GOD like the christians say then number23 v.19 is wrong// but wen christians read this comment they will just push this simple understandable truth underneath the carpet typical dem, u all need to start be honest
NATURLIST 1 year ago
deedat did it again. Victory
DirteatDirt 2 years ago 3
ahhhh deedat (rahimullah) at his best!!!!!
i love him so much!
navidahadie 2 years ago 2
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I don't understand how or where in your Qur'an it gives you the right to insult Christians, on a public forum for all eyes to see.
Is that the way of Islam? Who gives you that right? Allah? Mohommed?
That is one reason why I would never want to become Muslim - I don't like the idea of putting down people.
watcher4234 2 years ago
watcher4234, there are those who are ashamed and afraid of the truth. If you're truely insulted by this video, I appologize. But, if you feel that you're insulted because Sheikh Deedat's arguments makes you ashamed and/or afraid of your belief system, then I wont appologize and I would advise you not to become a Muslim.
shakirshuvo 2 years ago 10
@shakirshuvo you should advise him no matter wat then he decides
salehs313 1 year ago
@shakirshuvo aman
amen
afghunz4life 1 year ago
@shakirshuvo I feel insulted when Muslims call Christians 'dogs' and Jews 'big nosed.'
watcher4234 4 months ago
Your quiet funny my friend ive watched the whole thing from d beggening not once did ahmed put anyone down. They were having an argument based on purely logic so who ever doesnt have enough logic looked like they've been put down. Surely if the christians had won this debate ahmed deedat would seemd 2 be put down. If your going to turn away from the truth and God only coz there r few things u dont like about d PEOPLE n not what d religon teaches it self than that is totaly up to u.
otto2rk 2 years ago
Watcher, I assure you as a student of World Religions that Islam does not insult Christians. It's a fact that in the beginning Mohammed urged his followers to protect "the people of the book." in reality there are more Christians in the streets insulting not just Islam, but all religions from Buddhism to Taoism.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
Shakirshuvo, Otto2rk, MrTruth08:
I was talking about all the comments made by others putting Christians down. Calling them 'dumb' 'stupid' 'hopeless'.
MrTruth - you say that Islam does not insult Christians. Does that mean the people who have insulted Christians (comments) are NOT Muslim?
watcher4234 2 years ago
you said "I don't understand how or where in your Qur'an it gives you the right to insult Christians, on a public forum for all eyes to see." what i want you to understand that we can say the same about Christianity and the bible. It's individuals not the books of faith that make religions bad.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
Does that mean the people who put down Christians are not Muslims?
watcher4234 2 years ago
correct because just as there are those extremist in Islam there are those extremist in Christianity. they can call themselves true believers but they fail to understand the meaning of their faiths.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
Thats not for me or you to say. lol
MrTruth08 2 years ago
mr. truth 08...its the opposite way round. your impose the insult upon yourself by believing something that is false.
stop following st. paul, follow jesus's true teaching...which was the teaching of islam. period.
szuberi 2 years ago
prove to me that what i believe in is false... cant? you believe how u want to believe and i believe how i want to believe and stop being ignorant and bias.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
In Quran the God tells us to have reason with people of book...and in that whole debate Deedat didn't insulted you Yer bible in itself is an insult to all of you he only told you the facts and figures.Bible is full of pornography,prophets portrayed as winebibbers,adulterers,incest commiters and they get rid of this all while the God is portrayed as something down under ground from who's nostrils it comes smoke and Fire from the Mouth..is it God or a Dragon? christians FOLLOW PAUL THE LIAR.
billyjack201 2 years ago
Well not so fast. Are we speaking of symbolism??? many people for different culture would represent got as a dragon. i forgot the name but dragons can symbolize unmovable forces, or strength. Now my next question, do you muslims agree that they are relatives to Jewish people? because both did come from Abe, right?
MrTruth08 2 years ago
Well its not matter of Symbolising the God...In Judo-christian tradition your concept of God"And Adam heard the God walking in the cool of the day"Genesis..you tell me if God walks,he must has Legs that makes sounds when he walks.if he has legs he must have upper part like you and me...But second person of trinity says "that those who worship God should worship him in Spirit not in size shape " what a contradiction..you didn't say about the Pornography and blessing of yer God on incest committer
billyjack201 2 years ago
But it could have been an alien for all i know. look i dont worship in any of these religions, as a interest in the issues i wanna know why people say that there is Violence encourage in the Qu'ran, and why theres contradictions in the bible & Jewish book.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
Alright, Truth yes Abraham had two sons first Ishmael(the father of arabs) second was Isaac(from which all the famous prophets came but the last peophet didn't came it came from the Ishmael bloodline).Brother Quran doesn't encourage the violence whenever it says "cut their throats or kill the jews) the verses came before battle.Allah allows us to fight only in battle and to protect ourself against evil plus with these verses God said not kill women or children after battle.
billyjack201 2 years ago
In bible God commanded Moses(according to Bible) that Kill the whole Palestinians,animals don't allow even sucklers(infants) to be alive. you brought one verse from Quran which encourage violence which says to Muslims beside the battle kill the people or it encourages the violence...you are talking about a book you have never read the Quran and saying "why people say......"....i don't believe in what someone think until i watch with my own eyes
billyjack201 2 years ago
Look i know that, but i just want muslims explanation on that, so when i argue wit people about it i know what im talking about. Im not here to question anything. However, I have friends who are catholic and they always bring up the part that "encourage" violence. So it's not because i think it its because i wanna be able to argue with people lol thats all.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
Alright Next time whatever the Verse he will take to ya....give it to me i will explain it to ya...you know argument can't go in comments so mostly i hide comments before watcing any video 'cos i don't like to argue on internet through limited character count. Anyhow you always welcome any thing they brought to ya tell me..to be honest i find 95% of christians or catholics have never opened Quran in their life neither they know aout their own bible they make religion outta phrase.
billyjack201 2 years ago 3
yup for sure thanks
MrTruth08 2 years ago
I don't know any "Abe"...if this way the Bible tells you to use the names of Prophets...Shame on you and yer corrupted Bible
billyjack201 2 years ago
lol really i was simply writing fast so i shorten the name. I dont think God or anyone would be offended by that.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
@watcher4234
My dear Brother, you are right, no Muslim, actually no human being has the right to insult others and it does not matter if the one is a Muslim himself, a Jew, a Christian or Buddhist.
And NO, that is NOT the way of Islam and nobody give us the right to offend others.
But you gave the Answer yourself,
these are faults of people.
People get emotional and diss.
Because we Muslim claim to have the last Revelation.
But i excause for the behavior of some of my Muslim Brothers. :)
SuperZorro92 6 months ago
@watcher4234
We muslims are not provoking you guys...It is our duty to correct you when you're wrong...WHY? BECAUSE we LOVE you...and we will do whatever it takes to deliver the message...We are doing everything thing we can to save your lives.
Reinabil 4 months ago
@Reinabil I've heard with my ears and seen with my eyes Muslims call Christians and Jews 'dog' and 'big-nosed'. Disgusting.
watcher4234 4 months ago
@watcher4234 There are always black sheeps in every community.
Read your Bible, Who does Jesus refer to when he uses the word pigs and dogs?
Reinabil 4 months ago
Deedat is a great debate, he destroys most Christians in any religious, moral argument - BUT, he would not have been able to hold a candle against a well schooled, very intelligent Existentialist.
DMBRECORDSUK 2 years ago
Well if you go to a court of law and make an accusation, the judge would ask you to provide evidence.
You have made an accusation that Deedat would not hold himself infront of a existentialist, you provide no evidence. unfortunatly you dont have any so you are in no position and have no warrent to past such accusation, making your statement concerning Deedat futile.
PUP135 2 years ago 2
You're not making the most logical point there brother because one could also argue that an existentialist could not hold a handle a candle against a master theologian like Deedat. Just because he did not sit in the classroom and listened to the secular nonsense, do not let that fool you my brother, his intellect far exceeds simple common sense, it is a girft from God and that in my opinion shatters the circular and delusional reasoning of those "existentialist"
camara309 2 years ago
Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:
God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran 60:8)
islamforworldnafter 3 years ago 3
...The only religion in the sight of God is Islam... (Quran 3:19)
islamforworldnafter 3 years ago 2
quick question will allah judge us when we die? sorry if it offends anyone but im trying to learn as much as possible thanks for ur patience.
MrTruth08 3 years ago
Surely YES
ammz2 3 years ago
ty now why is it, according to the media, that Osama and other known terrorist are using the muslim religion as their reason? now plz correct me if im wrong. also, can you explain to me the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelites?
MrTruth08 3 years ago
Dear Bro, you've said "according to the media" not to Our holy book "Quran", which is the foundation of Islam. Quran does not contain that kind of rubbish like what Osama and other terrorists did. They truely and surely miss their way!! Do you know why?
They misinterpret the teachings of Islam, which means peace, and they have been motivated by revenge for the sake of our brothers "The Palestinians" while the whole world is watching in silence for more than 50 years.
ammz2 3 years ago
and wat started this conflict?
MrTruth08 3 years ago
Let's agree first that this conflict does not come from the foundation of Islam, which is "Quran", after that, any human act wether good or bad can be interpreted and justified according to human nature, psycology and the environment.
Wishes
ammz2 3 years ago
agreed. So what your saying is that the conflict started not because of religion but because of territory?
MrTruth08 3 years ago
YES!! Politics and politics and politics and so on..
Wrong practices of the world's leaders create as big problems as they are now..
On the other hand, people still humans and the only thing they want is to survive and live, no matter they were christians, jews or muslims!!
ammz2 3 years ago
ok. now i keep hearing that the Palestinians were forced out of the land now known as Israel. What's the story behind that?
MrTruth08 3 years ago
That's right. Now there is a big difference between "Judism" as a relegin and "Zionism" which is a political movement. Zionists ideology holds that the Jews are a people or nation like any other, and should gather together in a single homeland. Therefore, they came to the Palestinians and forced them out. Oppositionists to Zionism amongsts jews are increasing rapidly especially in USA. The oppositionists say that they are "Jews" not "Zionists" which means we are godly people not terrorists!
ammz2 3 years ago
i see, its like most christian extremist here in the states who believe that the US is a Christian nation and that it should be ran by christians.
also, i have seen many videos where some jews are oppose to zionism and Israel. So many jews also feel the same as the palestinians.
MrTruth08 3 years ago
Yes bro. also Muslim extremists can not be dismissed. All extremists of any religion tend to enforce their teachings to serve their political attitudes, power and money.
ammz2 3 years ago
another question, what was israel carved from? i mean what Countries were force to submit land? was it just Palestine?
MrTruth08 3 years ago
message me and i will tell you everything i know. its very good what your doin
pillgrimz 2 years ago
yes my friend Allah will judge us when we die. But note that what arabs call Allah, simply means God. So if you already believe in God by been a muslim you still worship the same God, only the terms have changed and you only pray to him.. Not to jesus(pbuh) or not to the holy ghost.
otto2rk 2 years ago
ah thank you, as a student of world religions it really intrigues me of the commonality between judaism, christianity, and islam. I think the foundation of all three like other world religions have a beauty to them.
MrTruth08 2 years ago
mashala...
hakim120 3 years ago
UGH!!! Whitemen r so snobbish.... claimed to be superior over many countries. There aren't any proof bout the concept of trinity and u wont find it in the original biblical texts! Its merely an artificial ideology injcted thru the teachings of christianity by pagan worshippers.
KucingKayap 3 years ago
Christians are so Dumb, they have no knowledge of their own scriptures. Look at them, Look at how they hastily search through their scriptures, they have no understand of what is in their book or what it says. Christianity is not a religion, it is a mockery of faith. Which is why the best businesses in the united`states are churches, no surprise there. Christians care nothing for the poor and they feed their children on Usury, shame on what Christianity has become!
hayman4548213 3 years ago
this christian missionarie is DEAF DUMB AND BLIND. AND A ARROGANT FOOL. WHAT A STUPID GENUINE BASTARD.CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ENGLISH...WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!
allahkeliye 3 years ago
dis christianz a freakin loser
darkentity88 3 years ago
I feel sorry for the Christian guy. He tried his best to muddy the conversation again and again, but Deedat just wouldn't let him
Merchanta1 3 years ago 4
any of u guys ever watch muslim lost a debate with christian???...NEVER! becos there is none!!! we've won all the time...we won by using thier own "WORD OF GOD" that is written in the bible...we never makes things up...hahahaha funny things christian cant use the same technic upon us becos Our WORDS OF GOD the HOLY QURAN is truly comes from god himself that is ALLAH the ALMIGHTY!! ALLAHUAKBAR!!!
lesen2kick 3 years ago 4
Thank you so much for this video...I stayed up till almost 5am in the morning to watch all the vids...These Christians dont seem to accept defeat...Ahmed Deedat just powned them. Those of u wo are "christians", please judge for your self!! May Allah Reward you for these great videos...
fahmid2007 3 years ago 5
Deedat powned both of them!
IQ233 3 years ago 21
what a pathetic comments that christian fellow made, really to so childish and trying to manipulate every meaning of word instead of listening to the concept is just sooo stupid. He looks like an twitchy panicking chicken. Dear friends, The Qur'an does not contradict, is perfect, and above that contains incredible miracles and complexity no man can ever make. SubhanAllah may Allah bless deedat with jennat ul firdaus Amiin
Lilruzzla 3 years ago 4
thanks very much for this video bro may allah reward you and us surely we always need allah guidence.
ilhanosil 3 years ago 3
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I swear there is only NO god and ALL of his prophets ARE false. I can prove it, I have a BOOK (actually several books) that says so!!!!!
gulsbyjag 4 years ago
make paper airplanes of the pages of ur books and go play outside ... and while ur out .. take a lil' walk to the books store and buy the Quran .. god bless ur soul
rikkko 4 years ago 18
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Thanks for the blessing. I wish you logic and reason enough to question why allah and all of the other gods still believed to be 'true' are not on the trash heap with the thousands of other gods that were blown up, cut down, broken and discarded by Jews, Christians and Muslims!
gulsbyjag 4 years ago
gulsbyjag"I can prove it, I have a BOOK (actually several books) that says so!!!!!"
now now...can u please qoute them for me? :]
dont just bark,ACT :]
monoxidekid 4 years ago
since your proof are books.. n I guess you r worshipping the authors?
musaspot 4 years ago
that books called ABC 123 just like micheal jakson song...hahaha..
lesen2kick 3 years ago
The 2 Quran verses doesn't contradict. At the time of Moses, the jews then who followed him would be saved. So will the followers of Jesus during his time, they will be saved. Christians present day will not, because they have gone off.
britos101 4 years ago 2
what a moron that white missionary is. he was trying to say that HEAVEN doesnt mean heaven. if i was deedat i woulda thrown him out right there and then.
amooballer 4 years ago
but then if Deedat throw him out, then they'll say Muslims over react! I wish Mr Funny-Missionary would listen to what Mr Deedat said rather than denying all the way
musaspot 4 years ago
All what I can say is that im convenice of what Br dedat is saying and the gentelman facing him is just arguing with no aim to understand he just want to argue and say that the islam is not true , but i relly feel that after he left he really thought of it and im sure that this man died as a muslim and not a christain.
dannymustafa12 4 years ago 2
very good observation and pray as well. I hope too that those both two guyz died and lived as a muslim after this meeting Insha Allah.
khaab79ka 4 years ago
this gay is an asshole, he wont even let deedat speak. very disrespectful, esp. from a so called good christian
ashif786 4 years ago
Brother its not allowed to disrespect any1 like this. Rasool SAW prayed for Umar bin khattab when he was against islam that may Allah send him in Islam and He(Allah) did that and u can see that how much benifits we Islam got through the great caliph Umar subhan Allah.
khaab79ka 4 years ago 2
Excellent!Deedat Rocks!
SalaamIslam 4 years ago 3
This white man, didn't agree with anything in the whole Conversation, either with Bible (translation) or Quran... White man wanted to get some publicity, however Deedate kicks him below belt so beautifully..
hillsindia 4 years ago 2
Chrishtian brother/Dude says he wants to get down to the nity gritty details of the topic and dats what Brother Deedat was doing. I wonder how else could Br Deedat explain his point.(Bottom line is many people dont want to be proven worng no matter wt u do as our christian brother was doing.
Iftigmail 4 years ago
amazing video! it was long though. but worth it. this kind of gathering is more beneficial to watch because then we can see the christian response followed by deedat's refutation.
tolerancelastic 4 years ago 4
i was worried at 7:15 when the lights went out! it was getting heated.
soulstice99 4 years ago 3
The Christian friend sat on the right - he asks for Br. Deedat to prove the Quran is authentic, then he doesn't give the chance for an explanation to be given ... it's not really an acceptable way for a dialogue.
He says I don't accept this wording/translation whenever Br. Deedat shows a problem with the bible, then he uses the same bible and says this is true word of God - paradoxical.
romanali1 4 years ago 7
Chrisitan friend asks for a contradiction in bible and Br. Deedat quotes a verse from bible which uses the word "God" and the same verse in another version uses "Satan". The Christian disregards it as saying this is an error of translation and not a contradiction.
If the word "Lord" was used instead of "Satan", we could accept translation difference in using "God" and "Lord", but would accept as same core message.
romanali1 4 years ago 6
BUT if the word used has a totally "opposite" meaning, it is NOT a translation error and was a genuine entry by the author, proving the contradiction.
Even if it was "just a translation error", you have no right to say it is "still the uncorrupted word of God with no error", because it clearly does have a translation error.
romanali1 4 years ago 6
Quran says Jews/Christians (ppl of Book) will go to heaven, and Quran says only Muslims will go to heaven - not a contradiction.
The label "Jew"/"Christian" is just a label; Quran refers not to the entire populations that have these labels, it refers to the subsets of those "labelled-populations" and any other people(s) who "submit to God's will", i.e. follow Islam in essence. The original Jews/Christians did follow Islam in essence, i.e. submitted to the will of God.
romanali1 4 years ago 8