As a foreigner, I never understood that St. John was called St. John until I read the book. I thought his name was something like "Cyngion". That's what it sounds like in my ears, haha!
@GrizzlyBohemian Did you not hear her commentary? She said that if he was still at Thornfield with his lunatic wife that she would not even see him in audience! And then she heard his story about how Thornfield burned down and went to him! And no, there is NOTHING wrong with my cap locks. Have a nice day.
That's the only St John I find handsome enough to fit the 'Apollo' description given in the book. Funny how he ends up average when he's the only man described as truly handsome....
@oranaise311318 Not necessarily. Mr. Rochester had good prospects when he was young, but he ended up miserable for a large part of his life. Rich people have greater responsibilities and obligations that may make happiness as difficult as if they were impoverished. I think everything in moderation is good enough for a happy life.
@TheEntryCode Moderation is the key to reach hapiness, i agree, but there was no moderation in that era!! an enormous and hollow distance between the extreme wealth and the extreme poverty, so even with "the greater responsibilities and obligations" the rich could aspire to dignity and a proper life unlike the rest of the population
I like this version truly showing what Jane went through; the humilation of begging for jobs and food - no one being kind to her. This is the only version I've seen that's faithful towards that part of the story, the others just skips through it. Annoying - because I've always considered it an emotionally important part for Jane.
Woah, finally some expression from Jane :) I love this version, don't get me wrong, but when, for instance, Mr. Rochester proposed, she looked like she was contemplating what was for dinner (as borrowed from another comment).
oh my goodness, this is the best st.john in all the versions i've ever watched. (i thinked i watched one b-movie version where st.john wasn't even mentioned!)
I'm sorry you were brought to that point. Life is fragile isn't it? And I think this demonstrates that so well as well as the character's dignity and determination.
It adds to the drama that she was already chosen as a heiress by her uncle. So person who worth 20K pounds could die on the street.
I understand that it was a different time. To be honest I don't support her deceision to leave and especially the way she did it. Mr. R. at the end gave her a choice. She could have accepted reasonable help as she would if he was just an employer. It would be better than risk dying in the ditch. Mr.R. himself spent a fortune to find her and was worried sick.
That's true and I suppose it can be difficult to imagine such a different time, not to mention reality. We've already discussed her refusal to accept extra money before departing to her aunt, so not point in rehashing. But in the grand scheme of things in my world, he certainly owed her.
Well, she did act a little dramatically, but her honor, and his were at stake if they had run away together (despite how romantic we would have found it).
I think this is the only version where St. John didn't just find Jane on the field, but actually shown all her begging, suffering and humiliation. I have to say it often too strong for my stomach. I usually skipped this piece when I rewatched the movie.
I had a time when I desperatively need to change a job, and every place slamed door in my place. These scene is always a reminder for me. Also it is a contrast between her begging for food while she could have lived in a villa with a rich lover.
As a foreigner, I never understood that St. John was called St. John until I read the book. I thought his name was something like "Cyngion". That's what it sounds like in my ears, haha!
lillatufs 1 month ago
Comment removed
pacemoy 9 months ago in playlist Jane Eyre 1983
@GrizzlyBohemian Did you not hear her commentary? She said that if he was still at Thornfield with his lunatic wife that she would not even see him in audience! And then she heard his story about how Thornfield burned down and went to him! And no, there is NOTHING wrong with my cap locks. Have a nice day.
Girl4Happiness 9 months ago
@GrizzlyBohemian NO! WHY WOULD SHE? THAT IS HOW SHE GOES BACK TO MR. ROCHESTER!!!!
Girl4Happiness 9 months ago
wow this guy is so beautiful
Afsoon2009 9 months ago
I love St. John :]
8573458 11 months ago
That's the only St John I find handsome enough to fit the 'Apollo' description given in the book. Funny how he ends up average when he's the only man described as truly handsome....
Tozi05 1 year ago 9
A misunderstanding with her friends a left them?...well that's one way to say it
loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago 3
that porridge girl was a bitch >:(
loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago 4
:( Mr. Rochester would have died if he knew what she had been through.
snuzzlly 1 year ago 25
@snuzzlly i wish he had!
LivingintheShire 1 year ago
'beauty is wanting in her features'...I think Zelah Clarke has fine features
Snezhinka9 1 year ago 2
Hannah is so mean! Just giving the poor woman the milk and bread like that. D:<
TheEntryCode 1 year ago 2
I see no sign of vulgarity and degradation. Funny frasing.
MsSarjen 1 year ago
@MsSarjen -people in those days werent much fun
Snezhinka9 1 year ago
@Snezhinka9 unless being very rich, beautiful, smart and from a great family, yur chances to reach hapiness were very small!!!
oranaise311318 1 year ago
@oranaise311318 Not necessarily. Mr. Rochester had good prospects when he was young, but he ended up miserable for a large part of his life. Rich people have greater responsibilities and obligations that may make happiness as difficult as if they were impoverished. I think everything in moderation is good enough for a happy life.
TheEntryCode 2 months ago
@TheEntryCode Moderation is the key to reach hapiness, i agree, but there was no moderation in that era!! an enormous and hollow distance between the extreme wealth and the extreme poverty, so even with "the greater responsibilities and obligations" the rich could aspire to dignity and a proper life unlike the rest of the population
oranaise311318 2 months ago
I like this version truly showing what Jane went through; the humilation of begging for jobs and food - no one being kind to her. This is the only version I've seen that's faithful towards that part of the story, the others just skips through it. Annoying - because I've always considered it an emotionally important part for Jane.
MsSarjen 1 year ago 5
"Wish I could get to me bed when I fancy." lol. You gotta love that dame.
TheEntryCode 1 year ago
@TheEntryCode Haha, yeah. She's cool - true working class spirit.
MsSarjen 1 year ago
It's impressive that a woman would be turned away from a parsonage like this by a servant. "Man's inhumanity toward man."
Songsmirth 1 year ago 2
I'm so glad production and filming has improved since then. I could hardly hear the conversation in the rain!
maroonkobrakai 1 year ago
Woah, finally some expression from Jane :) I love this version, don't get me wrong, but when, for instance, Mr. Rochester proposed, she looked like she was contemplating what was for dinner (as borrowed from another comment).
minniemica 2 years ago 7
I have to say I am taken by surprise that she is a ballet dancer. As a dancer, I couldn't tell!
junejoyleng 2 years ago
Yes, i imagine Jane as Zelah too!
clazza01 2 years ago 3
Clazza01. Why role of Jane Eyre killed her career? Is role of Jane Eyre for actress anything junk?
dobradita 2 years ago
Zelah Clarke trained as a ballet dancer and is married to a BBC Execuitive producer and they have a teenage daughter.
The lead role she played as Jane, killed her career. Even though it was a brilliant performance and the best Jane ever x
clazza01 2 years ago 4
why would it kill her career if she was brilliant? That's a bit contradictory
minxb89 2 years ago
This is a quote taken from an interview done with Zelah Clarke! I forgot to write that bit.
clazza01 2 years ago
Her desperation is so well acted!
listophile 2 years ago 6
captures jane's destituness perfectly :)
akfsjhaks 2 years ago 6
i lv yr comment i hope that more people think like you do lol xxx
arabbint 3 years ago
she shouldn't break Rochest's heart,and her own too.
floratlf 3 years ago
oh my goodness, this is the best st.john in all the versions i've ever watched. (i thinked i watched one b-movie version where st.john wasn't even mentioned!)
michellethehawtie 3 years ago
What does Jane say after the housekeeper shuts the door on her?
opera21 3 years ago 2
sergent is actually kinda cute. :P
maxdoggie628 3 years ago
The introduction of this part of her life is quite like the book!
smileya11 3 years ago 3
I'm sorry you were brought to that point. Life is fragile isn't it? And I think this demonstrates that so well as well as the character's dignity and determination.
elea1 3 years ago
It adds to the drama that she was already chosen as a heiress by her uncle. So person who worth 20K pounds could die on the street.
I understand that it was a different time. To be honest I don't support her deceision to leave and especially the way she did it. Mr. R. at the end gave her a choice. She could have accepted reasonable help as she would if he was just an employer. It would be better than risk dying in the ditch. Mr.R. himself spent a fortune to find her and was worried sick.
galinaqt 3 years ago 6
That's true and I suppose it can be difficult to imagine such a different time, not to mention reality. We've already discussed her refusal to accept extra money before departing to her aunt, so not point in rehashing. But in the grand scheme of things in my world, he certainly owed her.
elea1 3 years ago 4
Well, she did act a little dramatically, but her honor, and his were at stake if they had run away together (despite how romantic we would have found it).
klickenpod 3 years ago 8
The book will be only half written.
Also, it would never be printed that time.
galinaqt 3 years ago 2
Indeed!
klickenpod 3 years ago
Yeah, but if she would have done that he wouldn't have let her go.
TVwriter23 2 years ago
I think this is the only version where St. John didn't just find Jane on the field, but actually shown all her begging, suffering and humiliation. I have to say it often too strong for my stomach. I usually skipped this piece when I rewatched the movie.
galinaqt 3 years ago 7
Yes this is handled extremely well here, although I agree it is upsetting. And this St. John Rivers is a revelation.
elea1 3 years ago 3
I had a time when I desperatively need to change a job, and every place slamed door in my place. These scene is always a reminder for me. Also it is a contrast between her begging for food while she could have lived in a villa with a rich lover.
galinaqt 3 years ago 6