In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is the savior and hope.
very cool. just watched the movie and the only bit where I noticed something off was at 1:11. but it still looks cool. looks like an old movie with a backdrop or something. I thought it was an artistic choice. I had no idea it was a blue screen right in front of him.
I don't believe it. I'm not sure what's more amazing, what they do with CG or how these guys can act like that....so incredibly realistic in a frigging blue room. Like acting isn't tough enough...take enough talent as it is....
My respect for actors just went up 10x's. Even "lousy" ones. I couldn't do that...
@zate1982 Yes, THIS CGI is brilliant and realistic, but my point is, is that MOST of what movies are about now , with CGI being used just as a substitute for locations like ordinary street backgrounds etc ?. Lot of work when you can film in a STREET. Big Special Effects maybe, but just mundane backgrounds ?. Anyway, I dont even like most of the big stuff, like in Die Hard 4 ; looks ridiculously unreal nowadays, like no more than a computer game
I have to say that, while I knew that they used a lot of greenscreen for the Washington and Cherry scenes... I had no idea they used it that much, or that well. That's even better than I thought.
Amazing. This technique really gave the film an incredible atmosphere and mood. I had no idea when I saw the film there was so much CGI, which generally, I hate. Used in this way, CGI added to the film, rather than the reverse. I thought this was a fantastic and totally overlooked film.
@rob92376 Using CGI in this fashion allows him to add in period details and have control over the lighting (a big big part of Fincher's style) in a way that he never could with sets and replicas. Most people would agree that CGI itself is not a bad thing in movies. It's mostly just an issue when it is distracting. Here, it is used with perfect subtlety, and you would never know it was there unless someone told you.
There's no major difference. If you have a character with a green shirt then you won't want to use a green screen because the shirt will go invisible. Night time scenes often have blue in them so you'll want to use a green screen.
Wow, that is amazingly, seamless CGI work (I certainly never picked it in the film itself). Importantly, movies are just going back to where they were before 1965. *Then* location shooting was very rare, and almost everything was shot on soundstages and backlot sets, and painted backdrops and back projections were the norm. Now, after 40 years of more and more location work, we're back to every-increasing soundstage and backlot work, only now the backdrop painting and projections are all CGI.
you don't seem CGi because they sampled (like in the PoPmusic) every single element by very expansive laser to interface with their software, and to sell whole like an ability but they copied everything.
Not for me. I kinda like that there is this much work that went into it, and so much attention to detail that I didn't even notice what they did. In my opinion what was achieved with a computer is more magical than if it was all real.
Is it amazing? Hell yes, and so is their work for Benjamin Button. But what FX are made for? Hell no. A lot of these things could have been shot on location. Fincher could have achieved a similar look with post-production work.
Finally one realistic consideration!This kind of directors use electronic to come down frome their car-mobile. They Map all S. Francisco bay and later The Press declare that is one masterpiece of virtuosity in the cinematic technique...Bah They spent multimillionaire Budget, one great director gets consistency not from CGI but by ideas!
@Chradnev wrong, the night time lighting in this film could not have been done without what they did. no other film has achieved that accurate of night time look.
This is not abusing CGI. This is creative control beyond belief. Hell, Fincher probably had a two hour discussion with Digital Domain on how the lamp in the window should look.
I'd hate to say it, but Fincher damn near makes Ridley Scott look pedestrian.
well there are 2 reasons I heard about it. For some shots the houses of those years are no longer the same...so they had to rebuild them. For some others shots apparently they did not receive permission from the town hall to shoot...so they had to do them in studuio...
Thanks, valid reasons I guess for location authenticity. But amazing as Digital Domains compositing trickery is, still seems like much of this could have been done in real locations. I would think that about 99% of the people watching the film it wouldn't make a difference to what house or town hall was in the background.
aytches could they not of just used onset lighting specialist to get the shots consistent?
it's amazing, you wouldn't have expected that this film had so much CGI in it. yet it really makes for an authentic 70's look. the shot at 1:12 is the only one that looked a bit unreal when i watched the movie.
i thought fight club and panic room kind of abused CGI... but zodiac? i think finch is getting more subtle! but he uses these "wicked shots" here and there to give the movie it's visual impact. (e.g. the guy's head exploding, the time lapse building sequence)
yeah, he toned down on the effects here, but just wait until you see Curious Case Of Benjamin Button. Talk about CGI abuse, that one's gonna take the cake.
Geez, is anyone willing to make films the old-fashioned way anymore? I know CGI's cool and all, but it's also taking away from what made films so rewarding to look at in the first place.
I've become a fan of Fincher over the past couple of days when I discovered that he directed both Se7en and Fight Club. In fact, that's what led me to Zodiac and made me watch it after stumbling upon this fact, and who this guy is. I can't wait to see his next movie.
(Inserts Fitcher into his favorite Directors book, which includes names like Spielberg and Zemeckis)
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I think the visual in this film were not that good, it felt low budget. Some of the landscape scenes looked pretty cg like. And shots have cg in it that should be done for real. The filter used on the film is also very poor looking to my eye. The dvd i watched showed a very very dark film as well. And well the movie is too long did this guy work with peter jackson or what? Films are like golfers they want to run around in a cart instead of walking the course like the pros.
David Fincher is notorious for being one of the most meticulous and hard working directors in the industry. Are you seriously comparing him to an amateur golfer? haha.
Zodiac was shot digitally rather than with film. Is that what you mean by CG? Because talking about CG is a whole other thing than talking about filters and the look of the film.
Yeah the cgi is unbelievable. I couldn't believe it either. It's all studio and the actors had to act as if something was there. The bluescreen is the literal smoke and mirrors.
@videoguyy It fooled me when I saw it, and I live just a few blocks from there. It's not a suburb, it's the Presidio Heights neigbourhood (Cherry & Washington). The killer walked north on Cherry and went down those steps into the Presidio.
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In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is the savior and hope.
diptdipt 6 days ago
very cool. just watched the movie and the only bit where I noticed something off was at 1:11. but it still looks cool. looks like an old movie with a backdrop or something. I thought it was an artistic choice. I had no idea it was a blue screen right in front of him.
Kevtb87 2 weeks ago
I don't believe it. I'm not sure what's more amazing, what they do with CG or how these guys can act like that....so incredibly realistic in a frigging blue room. Like acting isn't tough enough...take enough talent as it is....
My respect for actors just went up 10x's. Even "lousy" ones. I couldn't do that...
mcul2112 2 months ago
CGI saves money. I don't blame them. I'll do it to
THEMUSICR 4 months ago
How I love this movie.
sprialstaircase 5 months ago
I made a mini movie about the zodiac killer
Check out my channel to entertain yourself!
ClocksTelevision 6 months ago
How ironic is all this sfx stuff. It is well done, when you can't tell. If i didn't saw this, i'd never knew it was cgi. Bravo ^_^
zate1982 7 months ago
@zate1982 Yes, THIS CGI is brilliant and realistic, but my point is, is that MOST of what movies are about now , with CGI being used just as a substitute for locations like ordinary street backgrounds etc ?. Lot of work when you can film in a STREET. Big Special Effects maybe, but just mundane backgrounds ?. Anyway, I dont even like most of the big stuff, like in Die Hard 4 ; looks ridiculously unreal nowadays, like no more than a computer game
TheKenfig 6 months ago
Awesome CGI work. It is way believable.
cscdigitalgraphics 8 months ago
Someone needs to show this to Robert Zemeckis and George Lucas on how to use CGI wisely.
bartov 10 months ago 2
@bartov the whole time i just keep comparing this to george lucas.
coscientology 10 months ago
david fincher can make drinking coffee epic
2505994 11 months ago 2
it think they did the bluescreen, because the people in the neighborhood didn't want them to recreate the killing on their street.
Cartmanfor2012 11 months ago
wow this is practically avatar lol
godmode9 1 year ago
Love when CGI is just scenary and not in your face like typical hollywood movies. Fincher had made fooled on every CGI sequence.
Very nicely done.
SuperWhofan1 1 year ago
@3:15
was that Minkus from Boy Meets World?
thejeff007 1 year ago
Nice clip. Is there one featuring the Trans America building sequence?
Malocosa 1 year ago
I think they should have made it 3D. The next movie.
rob92376 1 year ago
@rob92376 3D lol
leisurelydinner 1 year ago
I have to say that, while I knew that they used a lot of greenscreen for the Washington and Cherry scenes... I had no idea they used it that much, or that well. That's even better than I thought.
Joaquin602001 1 year ago
astonishingly good cg. Saw it on the big screen and never suspected.
BadLactose 1 year ago
imagine if fincher was a porn director. he can take porn to a whole new level.
c0kar7 1 year ago
fincher is the true master making waves in new technology in cinema, people just don't seem to realise it
AndyJmovies 1 year ago 3
Amazing. This technique really gave the film an incredible atmosphere and mood. I had no idea when I saw the film there was so much CGI, which generally, I hate. Used in this way, CGI added to the film, rather than the reverse. I thought this was a fantastic and totally overlooked film.
christopherraven 1 year ago
fincher is one of my favorite directors
this movie has soon of my favorite cinematography, color correction, and the over look is just beautiful in every shot.
BROKENHOUSEFILMS 1 year ago
why do they have to use cgi? Wouldn't the film be better without it?
rob92376 1 year ago
@rob92376 Using CGI in this fashion allows him to add in period details and have control over the lighting (a big big part of Fincher's style) in a way that he never could with sets and replicas. Most people would agree that CGI itself is not a bad thing in movies. It's mostly just an issue when it is distracting. Here, it is used with perfect subtlety, and you would never know it was there unless someone told you.
hogaburger 1 year ago
it is good CGI, because when i watched the film...i never noticed
but where they use it, seems a little pointless
BROKENHOUSEFILMS 1 year ago
who was that zodiac?
negrozn2 2 years ago
idk alot about special effects
so whats the diffrence between a blue screen and a green screen
babyjebus2 2 years ago
There's no major difference. If you have a character with a green shirt then you won't want to use a green screen because the shirt will go invisible. Night time scenes often have blue in them so you'll want to use a green screen.
St4rdog 2 years ago
use blue when there is a lot of grey in your shot, use green when there is a lot of blue in your shot.
there
MozTS 1 year ago
Wow, that is amazingly, seamless CGI work (I certainly never picked it in the film itself). Importantly, movies are just going back to where they were before 1965. *Then* location shooting was very rare, and almost everything was shot on soundstages and backlot sets, and painted backdrops and back projections were the norm. Now, after 40 years of more and more location work, we're back to every-increasing soundstage and backlot work, only now the backdrop painting and projections are all CGI.
swanstep 2 years ago 3
you don't seem CGi because they sampled (like in the PoPmusic) every single element by very expansive laser to interface with their software, and to sell whole like an ability but they copied everything.
novaexpss 2 years ago
kinda spoils the 'magic' of the film
TigerMeadows 2 years ago
"spoils the magic"
Not for me. I kinda like that there is this much work that went into it, and so much attention to detail that I didn't even notice what they did. In my opinion what was achieved with a computer is more magical than if it was all real.
BeatlesFan451 2 years ago 3
It's kind of ridiculous just how happy this made me.
ICanHazBrainDamage 2 years ago 3
I would have never guessed some of these shots were filled with effects. Good work.
huntermccartyney 2 years ago 4
i though it was real...
good work, guys!
DerHalbeEuro 2 years ago 2
Holy shit! Realistic as hell!
Przemusiek 2 years ago 11
This is what F/x are made for.
AyaxTelemonio 3 years ago 3
Is it amazing? Hell yes, and so is their work for Benjamin Button. But what FX are made for? Hell no. A lot of these things could have been shot on location. Fincher could have achieved a similar look with post-production work.
Chradnev 2 years ago 2
Finally one realistic consideration!This kind of directors use electronic to come down frome their car-mobile. They Map all S. Francisco bay and later The Press declare that is one masterpiece of virtuosity in the cinematic technique...Bah They spent multimillionaire Budget, one great director gets consistency not from CGI but by ideas!
novaexpss 2 years ago
@Chradnev wrong, the night time lighting in this film could not have been done without what they did. no other film has achieved that accurate of night time look.
IMARobot1323 2 years ago
This is not abusing CGI. This is creative control beyond belief. Hell, Fincher probably had a two hour discussion with Digital Domain on how the lamp in the window should look.
I'd hate to say it, but Fincher damn near makes Ridley Scott look pedestrian.
KineticFrenetic 3 years ago 43
Agreed.
filmanchor 3 years ago
Seamless effects.
GusHammond 3 years ago 2
can someone please put the movie up
mwdphantom 3 years ago
it makes it look nice, clear, and consistent if they do it cg.
aytches 3 years ago
Seemed to me like a lot of it could have been done through the camera.
Why have a whole cg street and house, and film actors on blue screen, why not just film an actual house?
siy01 3 years ago
well there are 2 reasons I heard about it. For some shots the houses of those years are no longer the same...so they had to rebuild them. For some others shots apparently they did not receive permission from the town hall to shoot...so they had to do them in studuio...
halfordmovies 3 years ago 2
Thanks, valid reasons I guess for location authenticity. But amazing as Digital Domains compositing trickery is, still seems like much of this could have been done in real locations. I would think that about 99% of the people watching the film it wouldn't make a difference to what house or town hall was in the background.
aytches could they not of just used onset lighting specialist to get the shots consistent?
siy01 3 years ago
i can't speak for fincher, but he'd probably want a authentic and consistent look throughout the movie -
he's been pushing boundaries of digital practices in film making, very cool!
blap316 2 years ago
it's amazing, you wouldn't have expected that this film had so much CGI in it. yet it really makes for an authentic 70's look. the shot at 1:12 is the only one that looked a bit unreal when i watched the movie.
ptalex1976 3 years ago
i thought fight club and panic room kind of abused CGI... but zodiac? i think finch is getting more subtle! but he uses these "wicked shots" here and there to give the movie it's visual impact. (e.g. the guy's head exploding, the time lapse building sequence)
for me zodiac is one of fincher's best.
bunaltheater 3 years ago
yeah, he toned down on the effects here, but just wait until you see Curious Case Of Benjamin Button. Talk about CGI abuse, that one's gonna take the cake.
Seven has to my favorite.
mailplanet16 3 years ago
Geez, is anyone willing to make films the old-fashioned way anymore? I know CGI's cool and all, but it's also taking away from what made films so rewarding to look at in the first place.
RubyTuesday717 3 years ago
well, what matters is what comes out of the theatre screen.
wolfgar45 3 years ago 3
I've become a fan of Fincher over the past couple of days when I discovered that he directed both Se7en and Fight Club. In fact, that's what led me to Zodiac and made me watch it after stumbling upon this fact, and who this guy is. I can't wait to see his next movie.
(Inserts Fitcher into his favorite Directors book, which includes names like Spielberg and Zemeckis)
Ryeran 3 years ago
what a movie! unbelievable
NicoOsi 3 years ago 2
Bloody hell son of a...
Too beautiful !
Hugo1138 3 years ago
WTF thats amazing!
farinurlaub666 3 years ago
correction:
FTW
stokmarknes 3 years ago
This is most likely the most realistic CGI ever created. The buildings look fantastic. Great movie.
oscarstegland 3 years ago 4
0:54-1:01, I don't get it. What changes?
LazyCoder 3 years ago
The cop on the motorcycle is completely CGI.
zekeburger 3 years ago
Um.. are you sure?
VisionnerzBN 3 years ago
Ahhh. . . . . so what. The look of the film was amazing. I could careless if it was CGI.
larma7 4 years ago 2
eh...747..you're talking shit..over
brianpeters 4 years ago
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I think the visual in this film were not that good, it felt low budget. Some of the landscape scenes looked pretty cg like. And shots have cg in it that should be done for real. The filter used on the film is also very poor looking to my eye. The dvd i watched showed a very very dark film as well. And well the movie is too long did this guy work with peter jackson or what? Films are like golfers they want to run around in a cart instead of walking the course like the pros.
themage747 4 years ago
What?
jlg395 3 years ago
David Fincher is notorious for being one of the most meticulous and hard working directors in the industry. Are you seriously comparing him to an amateur golfer? haha.
Zodiac was shot digitally rather than with film. Is that what you mean by CG? Because talking about CG is a whole other thing than talking about filters and the look of the film.
bpvalentine 3 years ago 2
wow i never would have guessed that most of the backdrops were CGI!
MrReznor 4 years ago 4
Finally,somebody put this feature back on YOUTUBE.
Thanks
Mestizo1971 4 years ago
so those awesome looking sequences at night in that awesome suburb neighborhood is all fake? goddamn, too good to be true....
videoguyy 4 years ago 3
Yeah the cgi is unbelievable. I couldn't believe it either. It's all studio and the actors had to act as if something was there. The bluescreen is the literal smoke and mirrors.
filmanchor 4 years ago
@videoguyy It fooled me when I saw it, and I live just a few blocks from there. It's not a suburb, it's the Presidio Heights neigbourhood (Cherry & Washington). The killer walked north on Cherry and went down those steps into the Presidio.
SamSpade2010 1 year ago