SCOTLAND WILL BE FREE ONE DAY.....I WILL DO EVERYTHINK TO GET THE FREEDOM BACK TO SCOTLAND....REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE AND ROBERT BRUCE...THEY DIDNT FOUGHT FOR THEMSELFS BUT FOR SCOTLAND... AND WILLIAM DIED FOR HER....IF YOU WILL JUST SIT AND WAIT, NOTHINK WILL HAPPEN..... DO SOMETHINK, FOR SCOTLAND, AND FOR FREEDOM
I'm also certain that Commonwealth countries like Australia and especially Canada who was built up by French and Scottish settlers would fight alonside an independent Scotland. If England could also hire soldiers from laces like Fiji, there is no reason why an independent Scotland could not do the same.
I should add that the Westminster transfer o 6000 miles of Scottish territorial waters in 1999 was rushed through Westminster Parliament without any publicity at the time, no referendum and no public consultation.
More to the point about the Army if Alba declared independence then there is already the Scottish part of the UK army, we could use those and build from scratch. It could be done using the vast amont of increased revenues that Alba would have at her disposal if she controlled all her resources and didn't send so much South of the border. The Irish Republic managed to seccede from English control and do just fine.
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky yes Ireland has not got a very strong army. Thats one reason why so are so good united because we fight alongside English, Welsh Irish and even gallant soldiers from the commonwealth and Nepal. And when you look at all the members of the RRS they joined the BRITISH ARMY not the Scottish Army. And just look at the Irish Republic they are not just fine. Yes they were for some time but now look at them
@midgiemarsh so what i;m sure many Scottish soldiers given the chance would elect to join an independent Scottish army, especially since the unelected [by Scotland] Tory and Lib dem cuts are about to the tear the British Army to pieces. Westminster also treats the nepalese Gurkha's like dirt, it senies them the same pensions, and rights as any of the other regiments. The Irish Republic may be in a mess now but the UK is in finacial meltdown as well.
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky Trust me mate they wouldn't they all swear an allegiance to the Queen and the whole of Britain not just Scotland. Yes I agree the defence cuts are outrageous but a Scottish Army cannot work were already financially fucked and Salmond is bribing voters with promises he cannot afford. The Gurkhas are not treated like dirt they have the right to settle in the UK after 4 years service(I think) and they are entitled to pensions.
@midgiemarsh how do you figure that an independent Scotland wouldn't hire from the commonwealth, it's a perfectly feasible plan and Commonwealth countries are not obliged to follow England. The Joanna Lumley campaign got the Gurkha's the right to settle in the UK, but it still didn't address the issue of them being treated like second class citizens or them getting a pitiful pension below the standard rate for all the other regiments.
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky because the Salmond would not want us to be part of the commonwealth. He hates the commonwealth and loves the EU. The Gurkhas do get a pretty good pension and are not treated like second class citizens apart from maybe from racists like the BNP and Neds. Look I can't be bothered with you anymore like most pro independence people you spout gaelic nonsense and always go on about wars that were fought nearly 700 years ago.
@midgiemarsh Where did I mention Gaelic? And if you bothered to even check the pension that a Gurkha receives I can assure you that it is well below the standard that other regiments recieve. I have yet to see Alex Salmond publicly profess his dislike for the commonwealth.
Westminster has actually breached the Act Of The Union 1707 by getting rid of the Royal Burghs in Scotland without any public consultation or referendum in the 1970's and the Act of the Union expressly stated their continuance. Alba gives more money to Engand than she recieves type rofessor Andrew Hughes Hallett in Google to see a speech on how Alba subsidises England i wuld post a web link but Youtube won't let me for some reason keeps saying error everytime I try.
Despite having no mandate Cameron and Clegg are free to embark on their ideoligically driven policies of devastating the welfare state and ensuring that private business can profiteer at everyone's exepense, oh and he can send Scottish soldiers to die in Libya as well. SAOR ALBA.
@midgiemarsh Scottish independence can and would worl well if put into practice, I for the life of me can't understand why you would be proud to be British. Do you like the fact that the goverment of the UK is an unelected dictatorship as look at the recent 2010 election the Tory party have only ONE MP in Scotland and 13 if yoiu include the Liberal Democrats out of 59 total.
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky. "Un elected dictatorship" hahahaha. This isn't Stalinist Russia mate were not being hunted down in the streets were not being opressed and we have freedom of speech. There are many reasons why I am proud of my Britishness mate. Main reason is that Scots have fought and died alongside English, Welsh and Irish in various wars and conflicts throughout the centuries.
@midgiemarsh and many more Scots fought an dies to ensure an independent Scotland over the centuries. I don't know what you class as a dictatorship but the UK certainly qualifies as one as the UK government was throughly trounced in Alba at the 2010 election and is still able to emabark on a host of their policies that the Scottish electorate didn't vote for.
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky Yes thats right many Scots did die for independence but was what 500 years ago i'm over that and a good many more scots are. After all we all share the same islands. The fact is Westminster does all this stuff for our own good and we have control over most policies such as health education justice etc so we can make our own policies which i'm fine with. We do not class as a dictatorship as we can break away from the UK tomorrow if we wanted but like it or not there is not
enough support for independence. If this was a dictatorship we would not be allowed to make ourselves independent and every last one of our laws and polices would be made by Westminster which they are not.
@midgiemarsh the Scotland bill currently being pushed through the Westminster and Parliament of Scotland by the unionist parties is handing back a number of devolved powers such as planning permission and is attempting to make UK (English) Law hold precedence over Scots Law contrary to the Act of the Union 1707. In 1999 Westminster tansferred 6000 miles of Scotish terrotorial water from Scottish and designated it as English and that includes all the oil and gas, fishing rights etc.
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky Well good Salmond is fat ignorant git who has gone mad. I'd much rather be run by Westminster where there is some sense in running the country
f we did become Independent where are we gonna get the money?. we cant make the economy work by selling whiskey and shortbread we need those handouts from Westminster and the SNP are making too much for free. You have to pay for something these days thats how it works. And what about defence?. OK Salmond wants to make a scottish army and restore the Scots regiments. Yes i'm all for that my father was an Argyll and proud he was to serve in the BRITISH ARMY not the scottish army.
And so how will this Scottish army work?. If we become independent the MOD will take all their equipment back so it'll cost billions from the already piss poor economy and what if we are attacked?. This isnt the days of Braveheart anymore we'd be pretty much defenceless. Independence will not work and we are not in an unelected dictatorship the people of Britain including me voted for the Tories yes we may have only 1 MP up here but Scots still voted Tory. Proudly Scottish Proudly British
The right to the ownership of Scotland is with the Scottish people, not the British, English or anyone else! Now is the time to assert that right! The control of Scottish affairs and destinies should be with the Scottish people, and not with any foreign government! An independent Scotland would guarantee civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities for all Scots! It is now time for us all to proclaim our rights and regain our national freedom, sovereignty and our place in the world!
Scots don't hate English, we just have our own national identity which we are proud of and want to preserve as separate from English, Welsh and Irish. Scots and English...there usually is banter because we were old enemies, but i dont know a single scot that hates england. I want england to have their parliament full of englishmen, have our student tuition fee system, have a devolved right to choose whats right for them. but you need to fight for it, like the rest of us needed to do.
This video is an absolute heap of shite, Gordon Brown is not Scottish, he is Brittish you daft cunt! Why the fuck do you think the SNP had no association with him?
because Brown was strongly unionist like most english cunts are, he fully represented brittain alone,
LOL, Scotland do not even fucken need Engirland, the barnett is not a subsidy,
all it is is a device that gives Scotland some of it's own money back out of it's own pay packet
p.s Blair is as scottish as a kebab and even if he IS scottish (which he ISN'T) it was england who voted him in...TWICE.Ah,sweet irony.
Besides cameron will be in power soon so hopefully you'll stop this pish about how 'DA SCOTS R RUNNING TEH COUNTRY! DA ENGLISH R BEEN OPPREZED!11!!ZOMG!!!1!! but I doubt it somehow....
Then why don't you have the balls to just piss off? How can you claim national pride whilst living off the proceeds of a neighbours charity? Scottish nationalism is a parasitic sham, national pride has to be earned not claimed. Try earning your own national living then come back and maybe we will patronise you by pretending to be interested.
@TheHead9999 Scotland has been more than paying its way in the uk for years. The only reason why scotland hasnt been allowed independence is that then england wouldnt be able to steal part of the 1.1 trillion worth of north sea oil thats currently there after having stole 240 billion already over last 30 year, scotland is allowed to look after its own health and education service but not allowed to look after its own economy think that proves how scared yous are of losing SCOTTISH OIL REVENUE
Under thatcher we suffered two recessions and millions were left unemployed..Infact if I recall we've had many useless PMs over the years but I don't recall their nationality ever being an issue.Hmmm.
what are you on about? where do our taxes go then? idiot. we actually put more in than we get out, and we haven't been getting more than you for long, we needed funding that's been lacking for years.
My god you are a moron. I will explain it very simply. Scottish people pay tax. They don't pay enough tax. Thus England gives you money. You use money. Ever since the 1970s Scotland has received more per head than England. You do not pay in more than you get out.
well thanks for the explanation, you tried anyway and that's what counts. scotland's gdp per capita is 98% of the uk average, and that isn't including the oil, which is rightfully ours. we make up 8.6% of britain, but 18% of the military. i stand by the claim that we have been under-funded for a long time while england has been over-funded, and there are certain problems with infustructure which need to be rebalanced.
"Though the Scottish people contribute in taxes, it is not enough to fund the various institutions and policies which the Scottish enjoy. As a result, funding from the England is required".
I thought I would add this. I have no problem with English taxes being used to fund aspects of Scottish policy as Scotland is part of the UK. However, I do wish the Scottish would be more grateful.
All Scottish people I have ever met hate the English. Maybe the Scottish people could show some respect to the English who actually pay a lot towards the upkeep of Scotland.
i don't know what sort of scots you associate with but nobody i know goes on about hating the english, some banter when it comes to football but that goes both ways.
Thanks to the over generous block grant (or bribe!) the Scottish Goverment recieve from the UK Treasury the Scot`s get more back for their "tax dollar" than the English, and don`t mention oil as this is a UK wide resource until you lot develop the balls to go it alone!
The "bribe" is the kickback you recieve in the way of the block grant. The elite in Westminster are so scared of the break-up that they are propping up the pro- Union vote in Scotland with the continuation of the Barnett formula. The problem for them now is the growing English anger at how unfairly they are being treated. They are hoping that the Scot`s stay with the Union long enough for the English "regions" (and Scotland!)to be swallowed up by the continuing growth of the European Union.
why would they bribe the minority at the expense of the majority to gain popularity? if scotland was such a drain on resources england would cut it off wouldn't you?
In the hope that the apathetic English would`nt notice of course! Until recently most people in England did`nt give the Union (or Scotland!) a thought, but devolution has give the English a greater sense of self and injustice when it comes to funding from the UK Treasury. Scottish resources are only Scottish until you vote to go it alone, until then the UK Treasury must divide up funding equally to all UK citizens.The Barnett formula with it`s outdated Scottish bias must be scrapped!
well i didn't know we were getting more than england until i heard you guys whining about it. if you do a bit of reading though, you'll find that england has been getting more for the majority of the 300 years we've been together, there are certain things that need to be rebalanced. our roads, for example, are a disgrace.
i guess my hate for scotland comes from the fact that im english and a lot of scottish people hate us too. Canada is ok, but it was founded by frenchmen, so id rather move back to england
you cant have much in your life if theres room for hate. i cant beleive how some people talk about other nations. whats wrong with a place founded by a frenchman? and you hate scotland because some scots hate england? you must hate every other country apart from england then?
I am half jock (unfortunately) and I will never stand by a Scotsman in battle! I regard myself as English! England has been sold our by the Scottish mafia! They let in Asylum seekers, Criminals and religious fundamentalists by the boat load but don't do anything to protect our people! In terms of hate, try going to Scotland Ireland or Wales if you have an English accent then see what it is like for yourself! ENGLAND FOR INDEPENDENCE!
i was out with some english people last night for a few drinks and there wasnt any thought about where they were from or what the differances were between english and scottish people, lucky i'm not a racist bigot like you or the night wouldnt have been as good as it was. i feel sorry for you not having things like that in your life. and as for not standing beside a scot in battle, you're obviously not in the army so what the fuck are you on about you idiot? haha
Sorry mate but I am a serving member of one of the three Law enforcement agencies in Western Australia(not going to tell you which one obviously)! I have Scottish mates also you fucking idiot! You have obviously lost the plot! Jocks are wankers! And they will punch me for saying so! Simple as that!
glad to hear you're in austrlia and not on the british isles, do us all a favour and stay there. one minute you're saying you have scottish mates and next thing scottish people are wankers, are you retarded?
Sorry to say so mum,and please forgive, but even I cant stand the scottsih political eleite who are clearly one step, one short step, removed from being racist and facist.
how many scots are in the government? not nearly as many as english. i think you should accept who you guys voted in, you are the majority vote remember.
that's in your opinion and very few share that alot of people love scotland although i do realize the place is becoming 'worse' it is still a decent place compared to quite a few others :)
why do so many people love it so much then? maybe it's personal taste, like everything else. i've been around alot and i only ever feel at home in scotland, its the only place i've been where you can talk to strangers as if they're your best friends and where people have a great outlook on life, no matter how shit their situation is. but i hope you're happy in canada, a place i still have to visit.
blair was born in scotland too! not many ppl know that. and they voted him in as well! I dont vote. they are all the same anyway. i dont know any english person who hates anyone just because of their nationality, it seems to only be people on youtube
Hey, just found your comment on YT about talking to strangers like they`re your best friends. It`s like that here in Yorkshire - people talk to each other in bus queues - about the weather, punctuality of the buses, etc, etc. It`s just the way it is here.
This is a farce. It quite clearly refers to Scottish people being put first with regards to their own governance - nothing to do with his actions when ruling England. It seems you scaremongers can't even read in proper context anymore...
i hate being british cus of all this tbh we british have it so much better than so many other countries but instead we have so little to argue about isnt this claim to rights jst the agreement to give scotland a fairer say in british politics
ya know.....when Scotland and England joined......ScotlandS king actually took over the whole of Great Britian.....THE SCOTTISH KING WAS THE HEIR TO THE ENGLISH THRONE....soo what im saying is that Scotland should be the one in charge of everything not England!....I SUPPORT SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE!!!
its shite being scottish. were the lowest of the low, the scum of the fuckin earth. some people hate the english, i dont, theyre just wankers.we on the other hand are colonized by wankers.
quote from a smackhead. you always listen to them? haha. i like being scottish, all the perks of being part of britain without the congestion and all the rest of the problems in england.
but renton was clean when he said that. hahaha i guess i havent lived in england in so long but in canada, there are so many scots and they start to get on my nerves.
English Nationalists support Welsh Independence and Scottish Independence and Irish Independence so enjoy the pay check while it lasts:)....the tide is turning!
@EnglishCult Scotland has been more than paying its way in the uk for years. The only reason why scotland hasnt been allowed independence is that then england wouldnt be able to steal part of the 1.1 trillion worth of north sea oil thats currently there after having stole 240 billion already over last 30 year, scotland is allowed to look after its own health and education service but not allowed to look after its own economy think that proves how scared yous are of losing SCOTTISH OIL REVENUE
Scotland supports independence for Cymru, England (enjoy our oil and revenue while it lasts, and out whisky revenue, and everything else Westminster steals), a united Ireland (so long as it's fair) and not forgetting independence for that other Celtic nation - Kernow (Cornwall to the uneducated).
England will really be in a dilema after we have divorced them! I mean can they really declare independance too? what about Wales and Northern Ireland they will be saddled with them
no dilemma at all, if wales and n ireland want to go it alone so be it if they are happy how things are then thats ok too but with scotland leaving the uk let them take all the bitterness with them
If you read some of the comments on independance from your fellow scots people,there are very very few who don`t launch their argument for independance off the back of insults to the english .
There reason all the english are not supporting Scottish independence is that becuase with out scotland. the rest of the UK Would be history. All the oil comes from the north sea in Abbardeen. So get scotland independence away from the shit UK. Anyone agree?
The only problem Scotland really faces is that if the UK denies Scotland independence, it doesn't have the backing of the world. The west are allies with the government holding power in London, and the sad truth is it wouldn't lift a hand to help Scotland gain independence.
its not like that at all. the westminster government would give independance if the majority of scots asked for it, the english would lose faith in their government if they went against democracy.
if scotand cost england so much money for so long why hasnt england went solo and broke up the union ? ask yourself that 1 ?
so stop moaning england and vote brown out cos we will up in scotland and vote snp also the SNP dont vote on matters that dont concern scotland also why dont england have a vote in independence ? dont be bitter on both sides its just time to split and go our own ways you can keep n/ireland and we will take wales
Probably because we are governed by a Scottish led British Government that seems hell bent on eradicating anything English. Bitter we certainly aint...I will take that as a compliment from a Scot! Keep England in Your Heart...by the way dont bottle it when you get the vote for Indy!
There has been a Scottish Prime Minister for fourteen months! Aren't we talking about three hundred years of the union? Do you have any real argument?
Blair is Scottish? That'll be one of those propagandist lies in the same vain as "Scots don't pay for prescriptions" or "England has been subsidising the Scots for years" or "Scotland's too small to be independent" or "the union was born in a democratic manner". I'm getting sick to death of these lies and strangled statistics. Ask Tony Blair where he's from: he's as English as Thatcher.
The last time i looked at a map of scotland edinburgh appeared there,scotland is blairs country of birth,you, like a lot of other scots on you tube want all the good things in life and blame all the bad on england,The majority of the english want TOTAL independance,YOU can`t even accept your fellow countrymen so what chance have you got when you go it alone.
Tony Blair supports the English football team, the English rugby team, the English cricket team. The fact that he even likes cricket must tell you something. He lives in England; he speaks with an English accent. He calls himself English.
"If a gentleman happens to be born in a stable, it does not follow that he should be called a horse." The quote is from the 1st Duke of Wellington, an Englishman through and through, when asked about his birth in Ireland.
This nonsense from the English about being hard-done-by really doesn't wash. You were responsible for the birth and design of the union. You are the ones who name political agreements the "Anglo-American agreement" when it is signed by the British government. You are the ones who refer the "the North" when pointing to the middle of the islands. You are the ones who waved the union flag as your own at football games against the Scots and Welsh.
You are the ones who sing "God Save the Queen" against those same countries. You are the country that hosts every party political conference from the Labour Party, the Conservatives, the Liberal Democrats. You are the country that receives 99% of BBC output. You are the country that broadcasts your internationals in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, while the likes of the Scots can't even watch their own national team on terrestrial tv.
i don`t know which matches you have been watching ,maybe world cup 1966 ,these enlightened days you will find the FLAG OF ST GEORGE flying at english matches
It states in your profile that you're 47. You must then be well aware that the flying of the St. George's Cross only took hold in the 1996 European Championships.
Interesting that you use the word "enlightened". When is your country going to be enlightened enough to address the other above-mentioned points?
i use the word enlightened because ,we english are only just realising that our dear friends and neigbours over the border want to dump us because they have won the lottery,the ordinary men and women on the street have thought of themselves as british but with 11 years of scottish rule behind us we now find ourselves as third class citizens ,yes now we have to be english again ,and i welcome it with open arms.
"Our dear friends and neigbours over the border", and yet you know nothing about us. Shouldn't you be embarrassed that you know nothing about your nearest neighbours, someone you supposedly share a government with?
The Scots know everything about England; the English are barely aware of the existence of Scotland. That's no union, no union at all.
I don't want independence because we have oil. That's a deliberate misunderstanding of the situation. I feel Scottish and European; I feel nothing for Britain. I want my country to be recognised on the world stage.
This world stage you talk of,the main players including great britain are caught up in nothing but trouble,it`s not just england in iraq and afghanistan, europe is tied up in it too,from what i have read in here and from the scottish parliament you want no part of it,so if you want to be on the world stage you will have to stand up and be counted ,with independance comes responsability,it`s not a dream world ,it`s not dozy aussies with paint on their faces, it`s a real hard world.
If Blair likes cricket, it`s the only thing he has to recommend him. And BTW cricket has a great following in Scotland - they have qualified for the 2011 World Cup, and always get great support from the Tartan and Barmy Armies. Scotland has more cricket clubs than rugby clubs - fact. It may not be your scene, but don`t assume that it has no interest in Scotland
england can`t have a vote on independance because scotsman brown won`t allow it---he knows full well we will take it and it is full independance we want not two countries being nice to each other TOTAL meaning total.cut historical ties altogether as for the oil KEEP it, the europeans will take it off you with a year of your independance anyway.
i can see why the english are blaming scotland for some things to do with the economy but if i had it my way we would all get the same. i hate this shitty government just as much as anyone, and i think that if such a bad government should stay in power then england should have its own parliment for english only matters. i do think though, that you may over estimate the amount of money england subsidises scotland by, we do put in alot, and apart from glasgow, we have very low unemployment.
yeah i know. i think there is a deep rooted respect for the english in scotland and hopefully you lot feel the same, i wouldnt blame you though if there wasnt, all the scots in the government and all the english haters seem to be the most widely seen and heard, they dont represent us real scots.
labour favour all minorities, not just the scots. they think they're being "politically correct", but they're forgetting that democracy is based on doing right by the majority, so technically its politically incorrect, fucking morons that they are.
i hate when they are politically correct. they get the easy votes from the foreigners who are not yet familiar with the political system.
But do not forget that often unions (including the states in USA and provinces in Canada) compensate each other if one takes more resources from that country. This MAY be one of many reasons why Scots have more funding per capita.
Excuse me but is Gordon Brown not the Prime Minister of The United Kingdom and NOT as you stated The Prime Minister of England and only England. And since there are infact FOUR countries in the UK, why should England be the government's main concern. Does Scotland not have the exact same rights as England? Or Wales? Or Ireland? Just because the Houses Of Parliament are located in London does not mean that England should always come first!
YOur right our four great countries are linked and England shouldn't come first 'cause Londons the capitol. But doesn't the English people deserve to have a parliament for themselves so that the English can vote for English matters not Scottish for English.
I myself am Scottish and I've been saying this for years and so far I have not had a single person, Scottish or English, disagree with me. The fact is that it is your M.P.'s who against this as it furthers the idea of splitting up the nations which is something the English cant afford.
Its unfortunate that ordinary English and Scottish People are arguing with each other on this subject. We Scots support the fact that the name England is your god given right, not to be taken away by some politeknic in Westminster or Brussels.
It is your country and ours that is being taken away by the European Quislings within our own people. You have a clear opportunity to get rid of Gordon Brown and his disgusting band of traitors in May. VOTE NO TO NEW LABOUR. VOTE THE ENGLISH WAY ONLY.
Scotlands oil doesnt cover Scotlands spending so it hardly subsidises the UK
You dont and never have subsidised Englands spending.
In 2007 Newsnight had a programme on the union in which when challenged on the ability of Scotland to finance its own spending Alex Salmond said...."err well errr not this year".Dont tell me Scottish oil money is spent in England when Alex Salmond leader of your independence movement wouldnt.
No it doesn't. Some of the oil and much of the gas is ENGLISH. The maritime border was also tweaked by the UK Government in the late 1960s under the "Contintental Shelf Act", without consulting the English. This will have to be corrected if the so-called "Union" ends.
Recent statistics quoted in The Guardian show that if ALL the oil revenue, including England's share, was allocated to Holyrood, then Scotland would STILL not break even.
Like most Englishers the prospect of Scotlands so called independance is very vexing. But if they must have it then why don't they get on with it. A Scottish word
I am English and not vexed at all by the prospect that Scotland wants independance. I love the idea. And we should not ask why Scotland get this or Scotland get that, but ask "why not England". I think England will get independance by default. The Scots will break away and the rest will follow. Then it will be Europes turn to bugger off!!!
Scottish Oil amounts to about £12 billions p.a., whereas London's contribution is much larger, at £50 billions from tourism & the City: London's GDP is larger than the entire Austrian republic. We need a federal constitution for the UK, each nation with its own parliament & Prime Minister, and the House of Lords at last becoming a true upper house for the UK as a whole.
All these government ministers are as far as a lot of Scots are concerned Quislings anyway. kick them out do what you like with them just dont send them back here please we just got rid of them!
i can see why you don`t want them--but to be honest they have done more for scottish independance than any snp member,every time they open their mouths to lay another fucking law in england that none of us want, they are stirring up the english for english independance with which would break this joke of a union up for ever.
There are bigger issues at hand, friends. Unblalanced immigration and multiculturalism threatens to rob your countries of it's identity and quell your national heritage. Unite before there isn't a recognizable Scotland, England, Ireland or Wales. Division now means extinction later.
fine go off and become your own country we will see jus how long you will last without our english tax payers money paying for you to have free univcitys ow and you can have Gordan Brown back and Alister Cambell there both crap and we will have our oil you keep saying is yours but if you look at the map its ours so yes good luck and try not to be racsisted to the english students
Shut up your oil! Do you even know what a map looks like you inbred twat.Most of the oil fields are off Shetland how can anyone even as dumb as you say that is English! It is us who support you just take a minute and research the figures from the treasury about it, it is there in black and white for all to see WE GET LESS THAN WE PAY and that doesnt include oil revenue cause its described as british not Scottish. Dont take my word for it use the freedom of info act to find it! TWAT!
oil is just 10% of british gdp the other 90% comes from industry and services which you will find most of that is from the city of london so in essence the 35 billion that scotland gets(and thats more than the english get per head)is probably more than you would get from split oil and gas revenue.
I'm sorry but your wrong. While oil may or may not be 10% of uk GDP this would be significantly higher for a independant Scotland. Any split oil/gas revenue would be like this according to the 1968 UK Continental Shelf Jurisdiction Order, 90% revenue to Scotland and 10% to the rest of the UK. And people keep talking about the 35billion we get IT IS STILL LESS THAN WE PAY IN! Demand more public spending in England by all means but what we get has nothing to do with england its scottish revinue.
you see this is the problem-it`s still UK oil, discovered in the NORTH SEA by the union of great britain and n/ireland.Personally i hope you get full independance but this so called union is 350 years old not 40yrs.
Has been and never will be UK oil as you put it. Its Scotlands oil I dont regard any English resource as British its English. The thing you fail to understand why I dont want them is that they still have major influence here only certain matters are devolved. I truly hope England gets independance but hating scots for the sake of a few self seeking morons is not the way to go about it.
where did i say i hated scots--i have scottish friends living nearby--what YOU regard as scottish oil does`nt matter.Scottish influence on matters concerning only england is resented in england too,some scots still believe they are under siege ,you are a free people.
What I regard about Scottish oil does matter I have a vote as do the rest of Scotland to take back what is OUR resource. I wish you were correct about us being free sadly thats not the case however I do agree with you that Scottish ministers should not be voting on English only matters. Perhaps saying you hated Scots is a bit harsh, however there is an unfair level of resentment directed at Scots because of a self seeking few which is in danger of boiling over, that was my point.
your phrase--"but hating scots for a few self-seeking morons"does`nt make sense,there must be nearly as many scots living"happily"in england as there are in scotland, we DON`T hate the scots but the reverse is true,you yourself in an earlier mail referred to scottish ministers in england as "quislings"which are as you know collaboraters with the ENEMY ---so to regard the english as enemies it`s those sort of staements that cause resentment.
I suppose you could make that assumption. I do regard these so called Scots as quislings. I dont regard the English as my enemy for I cannot blame anyone who puts the interests of their country first. However imagine England was controlled from Paris and you saw someone from your own country laughing at your culture and telling you that you couldnt survive as an independant country, I think you would have they same regard as myself for such quislings. They are lapdogs and that revolts me!
I think youll find that it was American Oil companies that discovered North Sea Oil. They have to pay the UK Government extraction riches for removing it Because Scotland is part of the UK. Upon independence this money will go to Edinburgh because the majority of the Oil fields are closest to Scotland.
The moeny for Oil Extracted from English Oil fields will go to them.But only 3% of the fields are English!
Scotland has only 9% of the British population. So if Oil makes up 10% of British income then there is still an excess!
Also when Independence comes Oil companies will have to pay extraction riches to the Scottish Parliament rather than Westminster. This is because nearly all of the Oil/Gas fields are in SCOTTISH waters!
So you think oil is the be all and end all,england was successful long before oil was discovered ,when you get your independance (i pray that you will)your parliament will join the eu,and those cheating greedy euro mp`s will not be able to contain themselves until they get their dirty hands on you oil money,so if you think everything will come up rosy ,think it through.
Why are all English nationalists so anti-EU? So anti-European?
It's a cliche that the Scots hate the English. The English, however, hate the Scots, Welsh, Irish, French, Germans.... basically everyone they come in contact with. Jocks, Taffs, Paddies, Frogs, Krauts: isn't it interesting that there's no universal racist epithets for the English?
course it`s a cliche` the scots hate the english everything is the fault of the englsh according to you-tube scots,now epithets ,poms,limey`s,little englanders,need i say more--for the record i am working class and work in a factory the men and women i work with are not racist nor am i,so please don`t generalise when making discugusting insults.
I hate Gordon Brown and I hate Labour. I'm completely in favour of an English parliament, which would sort out most of the constitutional issues in the UK. So I agree with the unfairness to England the vid raises.
thanks flagrantmastrshake thats a welcome reply--it`s a great pity there are not a few more with your way of thinking--tell me,(i take it you are a scot and living in scotland)have i got it wrong or do you meet often with anti english feeling from scots.
Very occasionly. I think you said you get on fine with Scots living in England.I'd say most Scots get on well fine the English. But we've certainly got some arseholes...
yes i have been to scotland quite a few times and it`s always been friendly and relaxed thats why its hard to take some of the things that are said in these groups,i guess there are arseholes in every country lol--we have our fair share too.
lol. Very true, there are arseholes in all countries. Just look at the Blair and Brown cabinets. It's as if they handpicked arseholes from every country in the UK. Scottish arseholes: Tony Blair Des Brown John Reed Charles Faulkner Gordon Brown English arseholes: Charles Clarke David Blunkett Patricia Hewitt Jack Straw Peter Hain
lol. Very true, there are arseholes in all countries. Just look at the Blair and Brown cabinets. It's as if they handpicked arseholes from every country in the UK. Scottish arseholes: Tony Blair Des Brown John Reed Charles Faulkner Gordon Brown English arseholes: Charles Clarke David Blunkett Patricia Hewitt Jack Straw Peter Hain
lol. Very true, there are arseholes in all countries. Just look at the Blair and Brown cabinets. It's as if they picked arseholes from every country in the UK.
Scottish arseholes:Tony Blair, Des Brown, John Reed, Charles Faulkner, Gordon Brown.
English arseholes: Charles Clarke, David Blunkett, Patricia Hewitt, Jack Straw, Peter Hain.
SCOTLAND WILL BE FREE ONE DAY.....I WILL DO EVERYTHINK TO GET THE FREEDOM BACK TO SCOTLAND....REMEMBER WILLIAM WALLACE AND ROBERT BRUCE...THEY DIDNT FOUGHT FOR THEMSELFS BUT FOR SCOTLAND... AND WILLIAM DIED FOR HER....IF YOU WILL JUST SIT AND WAIT, NOTHINK WILL HAPPEN..... DO SOMETHINK, FOR SCOTLAND, AND FOR FREEDOM
anze731 6 months ago
I'm also certain that Commonwealth countries like Australia and especially Canada who was built up by French and Scottish settlers would fight alonside an independent Scotland. If England could also hire soldiers from laces like Fiji, there is no reason why an independent Scotland could not do the same.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky An independent scotland under Salmond would recruit from the EU not the British commonwealth.
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
I should add that the Westminster transfer o 6000 miles of Scottish territorial waters in 1999 was rushed through Westminster Parliament without any publicity at the time, no referendum and no public consultation.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
More to the point about the Army if Alba declared independence then there is already the Scottish part of the UK army, we could use those and build from scratch. It could be done using the vast amont of increased revenues that Alba would have at her disposal if she controlled all her resources and didn't send so much South of the border. The Irish Republic managed to seccede from English control and do just fine.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky yes Ireland has not got a very strong army. Thats one reason why so are so good united because we fight alongside English, Welsh Irish and even gallant soldiers from the commonwealth and Nepal. And when you look at all the members of the RRS they joined the BRITISH ARMY not the Scottish Army. And just look at the Irish Republic they are not just fine. Yes they were for some time but now look at them
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
@midgiemarsh and did I mention the many commonwealth soldiers from Fiji and other places in the RRS who too joined the British Army
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
@midgiemarsh so what i;m sure many Scottish soldiers given the chance would elect to join an independent Scottish army, especially since the unelected [by Scotland] Tory and Lib dem cuts are about to the tear the British Army to pieces. Westminster also treats the nepalese Gurkha's like dirt, it senies them the same pensions, and rights as any of the other regiments. The Irish Republic may be in a mess now but the UK is in finacial meltdown as well.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky Trust me mate they wouldn't they all swear an allegiance to the Queen and the whole of Britain not just Scotland. Yes I agree the defence cuts are outrageous but a Scottish Army cannot work were already financially fucked and Salmond is bribing voters with promises he cannot afford. The Gurkhas are not treated like dirt they have the right to settle in the UK after 4 years service(I think) and they are entitled to pensions.
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
You obviously have not been paying attention recently there was a big campaign for Gurkhas rights led by Joanna Lumley
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
@midgiemarsh how do you figure that an independent Scotland wouldn't hire from the commonwealth, it's a perfectly feasible plan and Commonwealth countries are not obliged to follow England. The Joanna Lumley campaign got the Gurkha's the right to settle in the UK, but it still didn't address the issue of them being treated like second class citizens or them getting a pitiful pension below the standard rate for all the other regiments.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky because the Salmond would not want us to be part of the commonwealth. He hates the commonwealth and loves the EU. The Gurkhas do get a pretty good pension and are not treated like second class citizens apart from maybe from racists like the BNP and Neds. Look I can't be bothered with you anymore like most pro independence people you spout gaelic nonsense and always go on about wars that were fought nearly 700 years ago.
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
@midgiemarsh Where did I mention Gaelic? And if you bothered to even check the pension that a Gurkha receives I can assure you that it is well below the standard that other regiments recieve. I have yet to see Alex Salmond publicly profess his dislike for the commonwealth.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
Westminster has actually breached the Act Of The Union 1707 by getting rid of the Royal Burghs in Scotland without any public consultation or referendum in the 1970's and the Act of the Union expressly stated their continuance. Alba gives more money to Engand than she recieves type rofessor Andrew Hughes Hallett in Google to see a speech on how Alba subsidises England i wuld post a web link but Youtube won't let me for some reason keeps saying error everytime I try.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
Despite having no mandate Cameron and Clegg are free to embark on their ideoligically driven policies of devastating the welfare state and ensuring that private business can profiteer at everyone's exepense, oh and he can send Scottish soldiers to die in Libya as well. SAOR ALBA.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
Scottish Independence cannot work in practice. I'm Scottish and British and proud I am to be
midgiemarsh 11 months ago
@midgiemarsh Scottish independence can and would worl well if put into practice, I for the life of me can't understand why you would be proud to be British. Do you like the fact that the goverment of the UK is an unelected dictatorship as look at the recent 2010 election the Tory party have only ONE MP in Scotland and 13 if yoiu include the Liberal Democrats out of 59 total.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky. "Un elected dictatorship" hahahaha. This isn't Stalinist Russia mate were not being hunted down in the streets were not being opressed and we have freedom of speech. There are many reasons why I am proud of my Britishness mate. Main reason is that Scots have fought and died alongside English, Welsh and Irish in various wars and conflicts throughout the centuries.
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
@midgiemarsh and many more Scots fought an dies to ensure an independent Scotland over the centuries. I don't know what you class as a dictatorship but the UK certainly qualifies as one as the UK government was throughly trounced in Alba at the 2010 election and is still able to emabark on a host of their policies that the Scottish electorate didn't vote for.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky Yes thats right many Scots did die for independence but was what 500 years ago i'm over that and a good many more scots are. After all we all share the same islands. The fact is Westminster does all this stuff for our own good and we have control over most policies such as health education justice etc so we can make our own policies which i'm fine with. We do not class as a dictatorship as we can break away from the UK tomorrow if we wanted but like it or not there is not
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
enough support for independence. If this was a dictatorship we would not be allowed to make ourselves independent and every last one of our laws and polices would be made by Westminster which they are not.
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
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DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@midgiemarsh the Scotland bill currently being pushed through the Westminster and Parliament of Scotland by the unionist parties is handing back a number of devolved powers such as planning permission and is attempting to make UK (English) Law hold precedence over Scots Law contrary to the Act of the Union 1707. In 1999 Westminster tansferred 6000 miles of Scotish terrotorial water from Scottish and designated it as English and that includes all the oil and gas, fishing rights etc.
DrunkOnScotsWhisky 9 months ago
@DrunkOnScotsWhisky Well good Salmond is fat ignorant git who has gone mad. I'd much rather be run by Westminster where there is some sense in running the country
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
f we did become Independent where are we gonna get the money?. we cant make the economy work by selling whiskey and shortbread we need those handouts from Westminster and the SNP are making too much for free. You have to pay for something these days thats how it works. And what about defence?. OK Salmond wants to make a scottish army and restore the Scots regiments. Yes i'm all for that my father was an Argyll and proud he was to serve in the BRITISH ARMY not the scottish army.
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
And so how will this Scottish army work?. If we become independent the MOD will take all their equipment back so it'll cost billions from the already piss poor economy and what if we are attacked?. This isnt the days of Braveheart anymore we'd be pretty much defenceless. Independence will not work and we are not in an unelected dictatorship the people of Britain including me voted for the Tories yes we may have only 1 MP up here but Scots still voted Tory. Proudly Scottish Proudly British
midgiemarsh 9 months ago
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The right to the ownership of Scotland is with the Scottish people, not the British, English or anyone else! Now is the time to assert that right! The control of Scottish affairs and destinies should be with the Scottish people, and not with any foreign government! An independent Scotland would guarantee civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities for all Scots! It is now time for us all to proclaim our rights and regain our national freedom, sovereignty and our place in the world!
weareScottish 1 year ago
Scots don't hate English, we just have our own national identity which we are proud of and want to preserve as separate from English, Welsh and Irish. Scots and English...there usually is banter because we were old enemies, but i dont know a single scot that hates england. I want england to have their parliament full of englishmen, have our student tuition fee system, have a devolved right to choose whats right for them. but you need to fight for it, like the rest of us needed to do.
OlympicScientist 1 year ago
This video is an absolute heap of shite, Gordon Brown is not Scottish, he is Brittish you daft cunt! Why the fuck do you think the SNP had no association with him?
because Brown was strongly unionist like most english cunts are, he fully represented brittain alone,
LOL, Scotland do not even fucken need Engirland, the barnett is not a subsidy,
all it is is a device that gives Scotland some of it's own money back out of it's own pay packet
GLORD99092 1 year ago
p.s Blair is as scottish as a kebab and even if he IS scottish (which he ISN'T) it was england who voted him in...TWICE.Ah,sweet irony.
Besides cameron will be in power soon so hopefully you'll stop this pish about how 'DA SCOTS R RUNNING TEH COUNTRY! DA ENGLISH R BEEN OPPREZED!11!!ZOMG!!!1!! but I doubt it somehow....
kaylasulk 1 year ago
@kaylasulk
CAMERON- The clue is in the name!!!
Fonyod2008 1 year ago
@kaylasulk
Then why don't you have the balls to just piss off? How can you claim national pride whilst living off the proceeds of a neighbours charity? Scottish nationalism is a parasitic sham, national pride has to be earned not claimed. Try earning your own national living then come back and maybe we will patronise you by pretending to be interested.
TheHead9999 1 year ago
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@TheHead9999 Scotland has been more than paying its way in the uk for years. The only reason why scotland hasnt been allowed independence is that then england wouldnt be able to steal part of the 1.1 trillion worth of north sea oil thats currently there after having stole 240 billion already over last 30 year, scotland is allowed to look after its own health and education service but not allowed to look after its own economy think that proves how scared yous are of losing SCOTTISH OIL REVENUE
gnostical 1 year ago
Under thatcher we suffered two recessions and millions were left unemployed..Infact if I recall we've had many useless PMs over the years but I don't recall their nationality ever being an issue.Hmmm.
iz it cuz is iz scottish??
kaylasulk 1 year ago
Devide and Conquer- don't be daft lad's!!
Fonyod2008 2 years ago
"Come where the toes are tapping, come where the Jocks are strapping!"
tavyred 2 years ago
Don't know about the Scots hating the english but it sounds to me that grantmitch hates the Scots.....no love lost there then EH!
strathpipe 2 years ago
Good vid but let's not forget how the SNP
are currently sabotaging Scotland's east coast railway infrastructure and surface access in particular to Edinburgh Airport?
edi4me 2 years ago
Labour gave Scotland a Parliament...
Scotland can't even afford the f***ing parliament.
Everything Scotland enjoys is paid for by England.
grantmitch1 2 years ago
what are you on about? where do our taxes go then? idiot. we actually put more in than we get out, and we haven't been getting more than you for long, we needed funding that's been lacking for years.
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
My god you are a moron. I will explain it very simply. Scottish people pay tax. They don't pay enough tax. Thus England gives you money. You use money. Ever since the 1970s Scotland has received more per head than England. You do not pay in more than you get out.
grantmitch1 2 years ago
well thanks for the explanation, you tried anyway and that's what counts. scotland's gdp per capita is 98% of the uk average, and that isn't including the oil, which is rightfully ours. we make up 8.6% of britain, but 18% of the military. i stand by the claim that we have been under-funded for a long time while england has been over-funded, and there are certain problems with infustructure which need to be rebalanced.
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
when you say "everything scotland enjoys is paid for by england", it gives the impression that we don't contribute through taxes. do you not agree?
scottishlad1987 2 years ago 2
Open reflection it does.
I will reword it
"Though the Scottish people contribute in taxes, it is not enough to fund the various institutions and policies which the Scottish enjoy. As a result, funding from the England is required".
I thought I would add this. I have no problem with English taxes being used to fund aspects of Scottish policy as Scotland is part of the UK. However, I do wish the Scottish would be more grateful.
grantmitch1 2 years ago
what scottish are you talking about? when and where do you expect a thank you?
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
All Scottish people I have ever met hate the English. Maybe the Scottish people could show some respect to the English who actually pay a lot towards the upkeep of Scotland.
grantmitch1 2 years ago
i don't know what sort of scots you associate with but nobody i know goes on about hating the english, some banter when it comes to football but that goes both ways.
scottishlad1987 2 years ago 4
more grateful for what?
using your oil money? sorry its ours.
highlandladdie09 2 years ago
Thanks to the over generous block grant (or bribe!) the Scottish Goverment recieve from the UK Treasury the Scot`s get more back for their "tax dollar" than the English, and don`t mention oil as this is a UK wide resource until you lot develop the balls to go it alone!
tavyred 2 years ago
bribe for what exactly? and if we did go it alone the oil would be ours, so we choose to share it.
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
The "bribe" is the kickback you recieve in the way of the block grant. The elite in Westminster are so scared of the break-up that they are propping up the pro- Union vote in Scotland with the continuation of the Barnett formula. The problem for them now is the growing English anger at how unfairly they are being treated. They are hoping that the Scot`s stay with the Union long enough for the English "regions" (and Scotland!)to be swallowed up by the continuing growth of the European Union.
tavyred 2 years ago
why would they bribe the minority at the expense of the majority to gain popularity? if scotland was such a drain on resources england would cut it off wouldn't you?
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
In the hope that the apathetic English would`nt notice of course! Until recently most people in England did`nt give the Union (or Scotland!) a thought, but devolution has give the English a greater sense of self and injustice when it comes to funding from the UK Treasury. Scottish resources are only Scottish until you vote to go it alone, until then the UK Treasury must divide up funding equally to all UK citizens.The Barnett formula with it`s outdated Scottish bias must be scrapped!
tavyred 2 years ago
well i didn't know we were getting more than england until i heard you guys whining about it. if you do a bit of reading though, you'll find that england has been getting more for the majority of the 300 years we've been together, there are certain things that need to be rebalanced. our roads, for example, are a disgrace.
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
like the scottish
but i have seen alot of them hate us
when i was in scotland i remember being called an english pric
by about 20 people in different places
and this was the lowlands 20 miles from england
scarff94 2 years ago
I like the english, I ahve many english friends. The same thing happened to me in england.
there are bigots in every country and not more in scotland than any other place.
scottishnationalist 2 years ago 6
happens everywere i know
but if it was in the highlands or somewhere farther from england
it would be more just
but 20 miles
dont see much northumbrians making fun of the scots
more likely people down south do
scarff94 2 years ago
Agreed. The Union is finished. If only our political classes would understand that.....
mts1977 2 years ago
yeah pretty much. i like germany as well, but i hate their football team :P
sivaband 3 years ago
England and Scotland haven't been separate countries for a VERY long time...
get over it.
m4pk 3 years ago
i guess my hate for scotland comes from the fact that im english and a lot of scottish people hate us too. Canada is ok, but it was founded by frenchmen, so id rather move back to england
sivaband 3 years ago
you cant have much in your life if theres room for hate. i cant beleive how some people talk about other nations. whats wrong with a place founded by a frenchman? and you hate scotland because some scots hate england? you must hate every other country apart from england then?
scottishlad1987 3 years ago
I am half jock (unfortunately) and I will never stand by a Scotsman in battle! I regard myself as English! England has been sold our by the Scottish mafia! They let in Asylum seekers, Criminals and religious fundamentalists by the boat load but don't do anything to protect our people! In terms of hate, try going to Scotland Ireland or Wales if you have an English accent then see what it is like for yourself! ENGLAND FOR INDEPENDENCE!
wembley05 3 years ago
i was out with some english people last night for a few drinks and there wasnt any thought about where they were from or what the differances were between english and scottish people, lucky i'm not a racist bigot like you or the night wouldnt have been as good as it was. i feel sorry for you not having things like that in your life. and as for not standing beside a scot in battle, you're obviously not in the army so what the fuck are you on about you idiot? haha
scottishlad1987 3 years ago 2
Sorry mate but I am a serving member of one of the three Law enforcement agencies in Western Australia(not going to tell you which one obviously)! I have Scottish mates also you fucking idiot! You have obviously lost the plot! Jocks are wankers! And they will punch me for saying so! Simple as that!
wembley05 3 years ago
glad to hear you're in austrlia and not on the british isles, do us all a favour and stay there. one minute you're saying you have scottish mates and next thing scottish people are wankers, are you retarded?
scottishlad1987 3 years ago 2
agreeeeeee! im english, i dont hate scots! i love their accent
SpreadingAwareness 2 years ago
Sorry to say so mum,and please forgive, but even I cant stand the scottsih political eleite who are clearly one step, one short step, removed from being racist and facist.
England forever.
thegensec 3 years ago
how many scots are in the government? not nearly as many as english. i think you should accept who you guys voted in, you are the majority vote remember.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago
im not daft, i know its from a movie. but he was telling the truth. it is a terrible place.
sivaband 3 years ago
that's in your opinion and very few share that alot of people love scotland although i do realize the place is becoming 'worse' it is still a decent place compared to quite a few others :)
GeekxNerdxPride 3 years ago
why do so many people love it so much then? maybe it's personal taste, like everything else. i've been around alot and i only ever feel at home in scotland, its the only place i've been where you can talk to strangers as if they're your best friends and where people have a great outlook on life, no matter how shit their situation is. but i hope you're happy in canada, a place i still have to visit.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago
blair was born in scotland too! not many ppl know that. and they voted him in as well! I dont vote. they are all the same anyway. i dont know any english person who hates anyone just because of their nationality, it seems to only be people on youtube
SpreadingAwareness 2 years ago
Hey, just found your comment on YT about talking to strangers like they`re your best friends. It`s like that here in Yorkshire - people talk to each other in bus queues - about the weather, punctuality of the buses, etc, etc. It`s just the way it is here.
englishrose47 2 years ago
This is a farce. It quite clearly refers to Scottish people being put first with regards to their own governance - nothing to do with his actions when ruling England. It seems you scaremongers can't even read in proper context anymore...
Meklo 3 years ago
Good to see you are angry...so are we!
EnglishCult 3 years ago
i hate being british cus of all this tbh we british have it so much better than so many other countries but instead we have so little to argue about isnt this claim to rights jst the agreement to give scotland a fairer say in british politics
tomsp9923 3 years ago 3
ya know.....when Scotland and England joined......ScotlandS king actually took over the whole of Great Britian.....THE SCOTTISH KING WAS THE HEIR TO THE ENGLISH THRONE....soo what im saying is that Scotland should be the one in charge of everything not England!....I SUPPORT SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE!!!
semperfijoe92 3 years ago
Don't be silly, you are.
Where the F do you think that bugger Brown comes from?
:-)
ampersandtay 3 years ago
its shite being scottish. were the lowest of the low, the scum of the fuckin earth. some people hate the english, i dont, theyre just wankers.we on the other hand are colonized by wankers.
quote from an a scotsman.
scotland can suck it , england forever!
sivaband 3 years ago 4
quote from a smackhead. you always listen to them? haha. i like being scottish, all the perks of being part of britain without the congestion and all the rest of the problems in england.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago 2
but renton was clean when he said that. hahaha i guess i havent lived in england in so long but in canada, there are so many scots and they start to get on my nerves.
sivaband 3 years ago
Cymru supports Scottish Independence!!
arian1945 3 years ago 11
English Nationalists support Welsh Independence and Scottish Independence and Irish Independence so enjoy the pay check while it lasts:)....the tide is turning!
EnglishCult 3 years ago
Yes, enjoy our oil revenue while it lasts. It's actually Scotland handing out the paycheck to Westminster and Westminster splits it up for us :)
chrismayberry 3 years ago
@EnglishCult Scotland has been more than paying its way in the uk for years. The only reason why scotland hasnt been allowed independence is that then england wouldnt be able to steal part of the 1.1 trillion worth of north sea oil thats currently there after having stole 240 billion already over last 30 year, scotland is allowed to look after its own health and education service but not allowed to look after its own economy think that proves how scared yous are of losing SCOTTISH OIL REVENUE
gnostical 1 year ago 2
Scotland supports independence for Cymru, England (enjoy our oil and revenue while it lasts, and out whisky revenue, and everything else Westminster steals), a united Ireland (so long as it's fair) and not forgetting independence for that other Celtic nation - Kernow (Cornwall to the uneducated).
LNER4468 3 years ago
@arian1945 Not all of Cymru pal
peterfgilbey 9 months ago
You won`t vote for independence...you have`nt got the arse!
tavyred 3 years ago
England will really be in a dilema after we have divorced them! I mean can they really declare independance too? what about Wales and Northern Ireland they will be saddled with them
ELONut 3 years ago
no dilemma at all, if wales and n ireland want to go it alone so be it if they are happy how things are then thats ok too but with scotland leaving the uk let them take all the bitterness with them
adger42 3 years ago
I am not bitter! I am looking forward to a new Future! :)Scottish independence is Pro Scottish Not Anti English
ELONut 3 years ago
If you read some of the comments on independance from your fellow scots people,there are very very few who don`t launch their argument for independance off the back of insults to the english .
adger42 3 years ago
Yes that is true, Also the same applies to many of your countrymen too! so whats your point? there are bad apples on every tree are their not?
ELONut 3 years ago
There reason all the english are not supporting Scottish independence is that becuase with out scotland. the rest of the UK Would be history. All the oil comes from the north sea in Abbardeen. So get scotland independence away from the shit UK. Anyone agree?
nimbley21 3 years ago
The only problem Scotland really faces is that if the UK denies Scotland independence, it doesn't have the backing of the world. The west are allies with the government holding power in London, and the sad truth is it wouldn't lift a hand to help Scotland gain independence.
lastminuteregret 3 years ago
its not like that at all. the westminster government would give independance if the majority of scots asked for it, the english would lose faith in their government if they went against democracy.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago 2
if scotand cost england so much money for so long why hasnt england went solo and broke up the union ? ask yourself that 1 ?
so stop moaning england and vote brown out cos we will up in scotland and vote snp also the SNP dont vote on matters that dont concern scotland also why dont england have a vote in independence ? dont be bitter on both sides its just time to split and go our own ways you can keep n/ireland and we will take wales
angryfather 3 years ago 10
Probably because we are governed by a Scottish led British Government that seems hell bent on eradicating anything English. Bitter we certainly aint...I will take that as a compliment from a Scot! Keep England in Your Heart...by the way dont bottle it when you get the vote for Indy!
EnglishCult 3 years ago
There has been a Scottish Prime Minister for fourteen months! Aren't we talking about three hundred years of the union? Do you have any real argument?
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
blair is scottish too,so that makes it eleven years with scottish rule +numerous scottish pm`s throughout history.
adger42 3 years ago
Blair is Scottish? That'll be one of those propagandist lies in the same vain as "Scots don't pay for prescriptions" or "England has been subsidising the Scots for years" or "Scotland's too small to be independent" or "the union was born in a democratic manner". I'm getting sick to death of these lies and strangled statistics. Ask Tony Blair where he's from: he's as English as Thatcher.
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
The last time i looked at a map of scotland edinburgh appeared there,scotland is blairs country of birth,you, like a lot of other scots on you tube want all the good things in life and blame all the bad on england,The majority of the english want TOTAL independance,YOU can`t even accept your fellow countrymen so what chance have you got when you go it alone.
adger42 3 years ago
Tony Blair supports the English football team, the English rugby team, the English cricket team. The fact that he even likes cricket must tell you something. He lives in England; he speaks with an English accent. He calls himself English.
"If a gentleman happens to be born in a stable, it does not follow that he should be called a horse." The quote is from the 1st Duke of Wellington, an Englishman through and through, when asked about his birth in Ireland.
Blair is an Englishman.
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
This nonsense from the English about being hard-done-by really doesn't wash. You were responsible for the birth and design of the union. You are the ones who name political agreements the "Anglo-American agreement" when it is signed by the British government. You are the ones who refer the "the North" when pointing to the middle of the islands. You are the ones who waved the union flag as your own at football games against the Scots and Welsh.
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
You are the ones who sing "God Save the Queen" against those same countries. You are the country that hosts every party political conference from the Labour Party, the Conservatives, the Liberal Democrats. You are the country that receives 99% of BBC output. You are the country that broadcasts your internationals in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, while the likes of the Scots can't even watch their own national team on terrestrial tv.
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
i don`t know which matches you have been watching ,maybe world cup 1966 ,these enlightened days you will find the FLAG OF ST GEORGE flying at english matches
adger42 3 years ago
It states in your profile that you're 47. You must then be well aware that the flying of the St. George's Cross only took hold in the 1996 European Championships.
Interesting that you use the word "enlightened". When is your country going to be enlightened enough to address the other above-mentioned points?
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
i use the word enlightened because ,we english are only just realising that our dear friends and neigbours over the border want to dump us because they have won the lottery,the ordinary men and women on the street have thought of themselves as british but with 11 years of scottish rule behind us we now find ourselves as third class citizens ,yes now we have to be english again ,and i welcome it with open arms.
adger42 3 years ago
"Our dear friends and neigbours over the border", and yet you know nothing about us. Shouldn't you be embarrassed that you know nothing about your nearest neighbours, someone you supposedly share a government with?
The Scots know everything about England; the English are barely aware of the existence of Scotland. That's no union, no union at all.
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
I don't want independence because we have oil. That's a deliberate misunderstanding of the situation. I feel Scottish and European; I feel nothing for Britain. I want my country to be recognised on the world stage.
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
This world stage you talk of,the main players including great britain are caught up in nothing but trouble,it`s not just england in iraq and afghanistan, europe is tied up in it too,from what i have read in here and from the scottish parliament you want no part of it,so if you want to be on the world stage you will have to stand up and be counted ,with independance comes responsability,it`s not a dream world ,it`s not dozy aussies with paint on their faces, it`s a real hard world.
adger42 3 years ago
absolute rubbish.
adger42 3 years ago
If Blair likes cricket, it`s the only thing he has to recommend him. And BTW cricket has a great following in Scotland - they have qualified for the 2011 World Cup, and always get great support from the Tartan and Barmy Armies. Scotland has more cricket clubs than rugby clubs - fact. It may not be your scene, but don`t assume that it has no interest in Scotland
englishrose47 2 years ago
england can`t have a vote on independance because scotsman brown won`t allow it---he knows full well we will take it and it is full independance we want not two countries being nice to each other TOTAL meaning total.cut historical ties altogether as for the oil KEEP it, the europeans will take it off you with a year of your independance anyway.
adger42 3 years ago
ahhhh bless...who says racism is dead?
mrfrostynova 3 years ago 4
i can see why the english are blaming scotland for some things to do with the economy but if i had it my way we would all get the same. i hate this shitty government just as much as anyone, and i think that if such a bad government should stay in power then england should have its own parliment for english only matters. i do think though, that you may over estimate the amount of money england subsidises scotland by, we do put in alot, and apart from glasgow, we have very low unemployment.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago
Good Post Scottishlad...we are not blaming the Scots..its this Scottish lead British government that is the problem!
EnglishCult 3 years ago
yeah i know. i think there is a deep rooted respect for the english in scotland and hopefully you lot feel the same, i wouldnt blame you though if there wasnt, all the scots in the government and all the english haters seem to be the most widely seen and heard, they dont represent us real scots.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago 7
Well said that man...all the best!
EnglishCult 3 years ago
Come on people, he at least deserves some thumbs up for that ;)
Gingwa2 3 years ago
Spot on, here. We have nothing against the Scots but I believe Gordon Brown personally has a grudge to bear against the English.
Isochest 3 years ago
labour favour all minorities, not just the scots. they think they're being "politically correct", but they're forgetting that democracy is based on doing right by the majority, so technically its politically incorrect, fucking morons that they are.
scottishlad1987 3 years ago
i hate when they are politically correct. they get the easy votes from the foreigners who are not yet familiar with the political system.
But do not forget that often unions (including the states in USA and provinces in Canada) compensate each other if one takes more resources from that country. This MAY be one of many reasons why Scots have more funding per capita.
Brandovich 3 years ago
Excuse me but is Gordon Brown not the Prime Minister of The United Kingdom and NOT as you stated The Prime Minister of England and only England. And since there are infact FOUR countries in the UK, why should England be the government's main concern. Does Scotland not have the exact same rights as England? Or Wales? Or Ireland? Just because the Houses Of Parliament are located in London does not mean that England should always come first!
TurtleIncorporated 3 years ago 2
YOur right our four great countries are linked and England shouldn't come first 'cause Londons the capitol. But doesn't the English people deserve to have a parliament for themselves so that the English can vote for English matters not Scottish for English.
Theycallmehans 3 years ago 2
I myself am Scottish and I've been saying this for years and so far I have not had a single person, Scottish or English, disagree with me. The fact is that it is your M.P.'s who against this as it furthers the idea of splitting up the nations which is something the English cant afford.
modulisticterror 3 years ago
i know this is an old (4mnth)bur will you explain why you think england cannot afford the union to break up.
adger42 3 years ago
excuse me Gordan Brown is the Prime minister of the UK whitch means scotland wales and northan ireland dumb ass
goldmemberpancake 3 years ago 2
waht's a crime is that he was never voted in as prime minister or england wasnt given a choise on having a first minister of england only
goldmemberpancake 3 years ago
It's interesting how many scottish MPs there are in possions of power, Especially since Scotland is still getting pissed on.
jack665 3 years ago 4
Its unfortunate that ordinary English and Scottish People are arguing with each other on this subject. We Scots support the fact that the name England is your god given right, not to be taken away by some politeknic in Westminster or Brussels.
It is your country and ours that is being taken away by the European Quislings within our own people. You have a clear opportunity to get rid of Gordon Brown and his disgusting band of traitors in May. VOTE NO TO NEW LABOUR. VOTE THE ENGLISH WAY ONLY.
lochinvarborder 3 years ago
Just as long as the Scots take their fair share of the national debt with them.
i hope we dont leave it to these Scot favouring British politicians to argue for English interests.
EaldEnglisc 3 years ago
Scotland subsidides the UK with OIL.
CREDITCARDSUPERDEAL 3 years ago
Scotlands oil doesnt cover Scotlands spending so it hardly subsidises the UK
You dont and never have subsidised Englands spending.
In 2007 Newsnight had a programme on the union in which when challenged on the ability of Scotland to finance its own spending Alex Salmond said...."err well errr not this year".Dont tell me Scottish oil money is spent in England when Alex Salmond leader of your independence movement wouldnt.
EaldEnglisc 3 years ago
No it doesn't. Some of the oil and much of the gas is ENGLISH. The maritime border was also tweaked by the UK Government in the late 1960s under the "Contintental Shelf Act", without consulting the English. This will have to be corrected if the so-called "Union" ends.
Recent statistics quoted in The Guardian show that if ALL the oil revenue, including England's share, was allocated to Holyrood, then Scotland would STILL not break even.
happylad65 3 years ago
What a load of hollyhocks!
EnglishCult 3 years ago
Like most Englishers the prospect of Scotlands so called independance is very vexing. But if they must have it then why don't they get on with it. A Scottish word
for this is 'havering'.
If the Scots are going to go then f******
go. The sooner the better.
poussecafe3 3 years ago
I am English and not vexed at all by the prospect that Scotland wants independance. I love the idea. And we should not ask why Scotland get this or Scotland get that, but ask "why not England". I think England will get independance by default. The Scots will break away and the rest will follow. Then it will be Europes turn to bugger off!!!
OurMutualFriend 3 years ago
Scottish Oil amounts to about £12 billions p.a., whereas London's contribution is much larger, at £50 billions from tourism & the City: London's GDP is larger than the entire Austrian republic. We need a federal constitution for the UK, each nation with its own parliament & Prime Minister, and the House of Lords at last becoming a true upper house for the UK as a whole.
dekkers42 3 years ago 3
All these government ministers are as far as a lot of Scots are concerned Quislings anyway. kick them out do what you like with them just dont send them back here please we just got rid of them!
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
i can see why you don`t want them--but to be honest they have done more for scottish independance than any snp member,every time they open their mouths to lay another fucking law in england that none of us want, they are stirring up the english for english independance with which would break this joke of a union up for ever.
adger42 3 years ago
There are bigger issues at hand, friends. Unblalanced immigration and multiculturalism threatens to rob your countries of it's identity and quell your national heritage. Unite before there isn't a recognizable Scotland, England, Ireland or Wales. Division now means extinction later.
delphantom 3 years ago
fine go off and become your own country we will see jus how long you will last without our english tax payers money paying for you to have free univcitys ow and you can have Gordan Brown back and Alister Cambell there both crap and we will have our oil you keep saying is yours but if you look at the map its ours so yes good luck and try not to be racsisted to the english students
samdung91 3 years ago
Would it kill you to learn how to spell?
And what makes you think we're all inherently racist towards English students?
Alot seem keep coming here so they don't seem to be put off by the possibility of racism.
flagrantmastrshake 3 years ago
i ment Alister Darling
samdung91 3 years ago
Shut up your oil! Do you even know what a map looks like you inbred twat.Most of the oil fields are off Shetland how can anyone even as dumb as you say that is English! It is us who support you just take a minute and research the figures from the treasury about it, it is there in black and white for all to see WE GET LESS THAN WE PAY and that doesnt include oil revenue cause its described as british not Scottish. Dont take my word for it use the freedom of info act to find it! TWAT!
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
oil is just 10% of british gdp the other 90% comes from industry and services which you will find most of that is from the city of london so in essence the 35 billion that scotland gets(and thats more than the english get per head)is probably more than you would get from split oil and gas revenue.
adger42 3 years ago
I'm sorry but your wrong. While oil may or may not be 10% of uk GDP this would be significantly higher for a independant Scotland. Any split oil/gas revenue would be like this according to the 1968 UK Continental Shelf Jurisdiction Order, 90% revenue to Scotland and 10% to the rest of the UK. And people keep talking about the 35billion we get IT IS STILL LESS THAN WE PAY IN! Demand more public spending in England by all means but what we get has nothing to do with england its scottish revinue.
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
you see this is the problem-it`s still UK oil, discovered in the NORTH SEA by the union of great britain and n/ireland.Personally i hope you get full independance but this so called union is 350 years old not 40yrs.
adger42 3 years ago 2
Has been and never will be UK oil as you put it. Its Scotlands oil I dont regard any English resource as British its English. The thing you fail to understand why I dont want them is that they still have major influence here only certain matters are devolved. I truly hope England gets independance but hating scots for the sake of a few self seeking morons is not the way to go about it.
thistlewarrior 3 years ago
where did i say i hated scots--i have scottish friends living nearby--what YOU regard as scottish oil does`nt matter.Scottish influence on matters concerning only england is resented in england too,some scots still believe they are under siege ,you are a free people.
adger42 3 years ago
What I regard about Scottish oil does matter I have a vote as do the rest of Scotland to take back what is OUR resource. I wish you were correct about us being free sadly thats not the case however I do agree with you that Scottish ministers should not be voting on English only matters. Perhaps saying you hated Scots is a bit harsh, however there is an unfair level of resentment directed at Scots because of a self seeking few which is in danger of boiling over, that was my point.
thistlewarrior 3 years ago 3
your phrase--"but hating scots for a few self-seeking morons"does`nt make sense,there must be nearly as many scots living"happily"in england as there are in scotland, we DON`T hate the scots but the reverse is true,you yourself in an earlier mail referred to scottish ministers in england as "quislings"which are as you know collaboraters with the ENEMY ---so to regard the english as enemies it`s those sort of staements that cause resentment.
adger42 3 years ago
I suppose you could make that assumption. I do regard these so called Scots as quislings. I dont regard the English as my enemy for I cannot blame anyone who puts the interests of their country first. However imagine England was controlled from Paris and you saw someone from your own country laughing at your culture and telling you that you couldnt survive as an independant country, I think you would have they same regard as myself for such quislings. They are lapdogs and that revolts me!
thistlewarrior 3 years ago 2
I think youll find that it was American Oil companies that discovered North Sea Oil. They have to pay the UK Government extraction riches for removing it Because Scotland is part of the UK. Upon independence this money will go to Edinburgh because the majority of the Oil fields are closest to Scotland.
The moeny for Oil Extracted from English Oil fields will go to them.But only 3% of the fields are English!
GoddardRadioMoscow 3 years ago
Scotland has only 9% of the British population. So if Oil makes up 10% of British income then there is still an excess!
Also when Independence comes Oil companies will have to pay extraction riches to the Scottish Parliament rather than Westminster. This is because nearly all of the Oil/Gas fields are in SCOTTISH waters!
GoddardRadioMoscow 3 years ago
I think youll find that only 3% of the total "British" Oil/Gas fields are in English waters m8...so itll be your country who becomes "crap" lol
GoddardRadioMoscow 3 years ago
So you think oil is the be all and end all,england was successful long before oil was discovered ,when you get your independance (i pray that you will)your parliament will join the eu,and those cheating greedy euro mp`s will not be able to contain themselves until they get their dirty hands on you oil money,so if you think everything will come up rosy ,think it through.
adger42 3 years ago
Why are all English nationalists so anti-EU? So anti-European?
It's a cliche that the Scots hate the English. The English, however, hate the Scots, Welsh, Irish, French, Germans.... basically everyone they come in contact with. Jocks, Taffs, Paddies, Frogs, Krauts: isn't it interesting that there's no universal racist epithets for the English?
scotchprofessor 3 years ago
course it`s a cliche` the scots hate the english everything is the fault of the englsh according to you-tube scots,now epithets ,poms,limey`s,little englanders,need i say more--for the record i am working class and work in a factory the men and women i work with are not racist nor am i,so please don`t generalise when making discugusting insults.
adger42 3 years ago
Sorry Spelling mistake:
Most Scots get on fine with the English...
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago
Of course I accept that. We shouldn't blame one another. Scotland and England were both involved in slavery but we both helped to abolish it.
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago
well,we agree on that,now how much of the above video do you agree with?
iluvit13 4 years ago
iluvit13
I hate Gordon Brown and I hate Labour. I'm completely in favour of an English parliament, which would sort out most of the constitutional issues in the UK. So I agree with the unfairness to England the vid raises.
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago
thanks flagrantmastrshake thats a welcome reply--it`s a great pity there are not a few more with your way of thinking--tell me,(i take it you are a scot and living in scotland)have i got it wrong or do you meet often with anti english feeling from scots.
iluvit13 4 years ago
Very occasionly. I think you said you get on fine with Scots living in England.I'd say most Scots get on well fine the English. But we've certainly got some arseholes...
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago
yes i have been to scotland quite a few times and it`s always been friendly and relaxed thats why its hard to take some of the things that are said in these groups,i guess there are arseholes in every country lol--we have our fair share too.
iluvit13 4 years ago
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago
iluvit13
lol. Very true, there are arseholes in all countries. Just look at the Blair and Brown cabinets. It's as if they picked arseholes from every country in the UK.
Scottish arseholes:Tony Blair, Des Brown, John Reed, Charles Faulkner, Gordon Brown.
English arseholes: Charles Clarke, David Blunkett, Patricia Hewitt, Jack Straw, Peter Hain.
flagrantmastrshake 4 years ago