cl-215 radial 18 cyl startup!

[tomcrissy]

Can I get a alarm clock that duplicates this sound?

I love it!

[IPGVirtual]

Thank you. Made my day......

[64jorthom]

This is very good video. I did preserved automatic transmission parts in oil, never came up to my head, that aircraft engines could have the same treatment. It is just like we use to say, you'll never end learning things. Thanks for this video, oh, sound is nice!!!

[burghill1979]

when u say high blower removed do you mean a second speed supecharger or turbo? i only ask because the Merlin is supercharged and has a two speed supercharger and is also a similar type to the one fitted to the United Kngdoms most unreliable race car the BRM V16

[etiennedauphin]

Frim, MERCI de poster ce vidéo!!! I'm a regular spotter @ CYQB (which I supposed is where all of those old ladies are stored). The other day, I was at the edge of rwy 24 and you guys were in the process of de-storing one of those CL-215s. Incidentally, I took a series of photos of C-FTXG on approach (rwy06) today, which is why I searched for this. Écoute pas les tatas de YouTube qui disent que les moteurs sont finis... s'ils volent encore (et sans fumée), c'est que du monde s'en occupent bien.

[SgtGrant23]

what are those 3350's?

[YoungJim409]

I saw two of these come back to the field with unused retardant; one dropped it coming towards (but a long way from) us and then went overhead at WOT... I still shiver at the thought of that sound.

[BlackWiiOwner2010]

I absolutely love the roar of radial engines. I noticed the blades being counted, don't you do so to clear any oil from the cylinders? I also heard the clutch engage right after the engine turned over.

[tbird6182]

My absolute favorite radial engine video....the sound is music to my ears! love these engines....its always impressive to fickle with starting and keeping them running with technique...instead of simply turning the key :)

[Henry455]

In regards to rough running at idle, these engines had fixed ignition timing, in other words timing was advanced for best power, not retarded for smooth idling. P&W experimented with automatic spark advance but discontinued after a while due to problems.

[Henry455]

Another amazing fact concerning this plane, when it first flew in 1967, the R-2800 engines had been out of production for 7 years. These engines were most likely overhauled or from surplus stock..

[mytmousemalibu]

Black smoke/streaks.....id call it rich fuel mixture, which the engine needs on start-up. Plus clearing its throat from being preserved. No problems here. Even radials that are run/used alot are generaly smokey/coughy on start-up. Just the way they are, and what makes them cool! The lower cylinders get alot of oil drainback

[crispiegee1]

Very nice. I love the visceral, mechanical sound.

[agcatdriver]

This is a perfectly NORMAL startup for an R2800 that's been pickled for several months. Geez I'd hate for some of you "expert" radial engine mechanics to work on MY stuff!

[dimarziostrat]

holy shit there are some cocks on here, there was nothing in anyway wrong with those engines. LONG LIVE THE RADIAL!!

[charger19691]

I'm not a pilot and don't pretend to be, but I'm sure once this engine warms up and burns off all that excess oil, she'll purr like a kitten. 18 huge cylinders can be a little cranky after a long winters nap. Any mechanicly Inclined individual would agree. I love these old aircraft. Personally I love the Douglas DC-3. A true American workhorse for the skies.

[frima666]

To all the great mecanics out there;

This engine as just been taking out of Winter preservation, that mean the engine was, at fall time, stalled in preservation oil. So in spring time at first run up, smoke is everywhere and every Color you can imagine.

So stop those theory of bad this an bad that it's only depreservation run-up. Engine runs good, and no injectors were hurt during the run-up ;))))!

[salemcripple]

@frima666 Not to mention that all radials, no matter if they've been stored or not, smoke oil smoke (blueish gray) on start up. This is because gravity pulls oil down into the lower cylinders. It's also why the engine has to be cranked over several times before firing. To clear the bottom cyls of any standing oil pools.

[krakenatwork]

@frima666

Not to mention these engines always poured some smoke when cold.

I remember seeing a spring "out of the mothballs" (depreservation) startup where I lost sifgt of the airplane (the #231 if I recall, maybe the #236) from the wings back, apart from the tip of the tail... It was, for a brief time, in it's own smoke cloud.

[Zardoz5280]

@frima666 When I wake up in the morning, I make more stink than that. This was a nice video. It's always nice to watch an engine wake up.

[Shalinar45]

THIS is what aviation SHOULD sound like! LOVE IT!!

[YoungJim409]

I saw one of these come at me, drop its load of retardant, and then go overhead at maybe 200' full throttle, full fine.

It was *unbelievable*.

[marc3471]

PURE MUSIC!!!!!

[hazmat440]

raw power

[hazmat440]

nice direct shaft power none of this gear reduction wimpy motor stuff

[flyinDPOD]

@hazmat440 Well a 'wimpy' turbine engine has so much power it would cause a propeller to fly apart were it directly connected.  Not to put down radials, mind you, I love em.

[Henry455]

@hazmat440 Sorry, but the CA3 and CB16 versions of the R-2800 used in the CL-215 had .450:1 reduction gears located in nose case.

[djsly2k5]

it reminds me the old days... at the Maniwaki Airport...

[Speeddemon3]

Love that whine!

[dgl1962]

"Rich mixture","bad smoke"-nonsense,radials have lots of oil in the lower cylinders at startup,it just has to burn off.

[SuperCubPA18]

Yes, knowing engines I can tell you people that think it's rich this:

blue smoke = oil being burned

White smoke = water

Black smoke = fuel

[kenns9]

actually white smoke is glycol, NOT water...

[flanksteak1]

@SuperCubPA18

Since it's an aviation engine, it does tend to run rich hence the black soot deposited on the wing.

The white smoke is probably oil and fuel that has accumulated in the cylinders during the cranking process with the ignition off (they do this to build oi pressure first on the se old bags)

[bdrws6]

Very amazing sound. I have heard them in Thunderbolts but the turbo and full exhuast quitens them down a lot. Still loud, but no where near this.

[blt2drg]

2800's take a minute or so just to clean themselves out. movin the mixture back from the auto-lean detent towards idle cut-off until you get a slight rpm rise (manual leaning) will help to get it running smoother at idle - 1000 rpm during a run up.

[Eclipseboy32]

tha black strikes r from oil...

when tha plane idles and in is taxi ing it dripps oil because the engine cant not do anything with it..

but when it is flying tha engine puts it to use..or something like that , iforgot how it was explained to me..

[jimnrel]

Ahhh the sound, It beats a inline any day.

[huettmr]

what engines does this plane have?

[tapageur3000]

gouvernement du québec 0:14 héhé sa vient de par che nous!!!

[GGigabiteM]

Those engines need some maintenance. Grey smoke is fine, but when it starts turning black and leaving streaks on the wings, there's a problem.

[frima666]

what do you know about depreservation....

[GGigabiteM]

What are you talking about. Need more less vague now.

[jderumeu]

looks to me like the underside is painted black to keep from cleaning every flt...its a cold start and its rich mixture..whaddya expect?

[GGigabiteM]

@Thesupersmith79

Grey smoke is fine, black smoke isn't. Black smoke is improper combustion from too rich of a fuel mixture, dirty valves, dirty carburetor or dirty injectors.

[GGigabiteM]

@Thesupersmith79

On engine #1 (towards the end of the video) after the oil burns off, you can see fair amounts of black smoke coming out of the exhaust. It's hard to tell though because the video quality is quite poor.

[bigman55434]

@GGigabiteM Since when did radial engines ever have injectors? Go back to driving your Prius...

[Easyjet8810]

@GGigabiteM You obviously never handled radials before.......

[GGigabiteM]

@Easyjet8810 And I obviously need to be a fire fighter to declare a building is on fire or a police officer to know a robbery in progress. Take your condescending elitest attitude elsewhere.

[Easyjet8810]

@GGigabiteM No offence meant but as a pilot I happen to know a little more than you do about these engines, they smoke, they rattle, on startup it takes a little while before all cylinders are on duty...in short, it is the way they are...these are engines from the 40s...and your response is like trying to compare apples with pears.

[yamahonkawazuki]

@GGigabiteM aye its been brought out of storage for lack of a better term. that smoke is the oil being burnt off. no other way to get the oil out of it

[SgtGrant23]

@GGigabiteM That is just from starting it up and never cleaning it after it starts and flys

[canpilot85]

nothin beats the sound of round

[mortdk]

Crackle, crackle, crackle = music ...

[OLT95]

yeah =)

[racingteddy]

Music!

[vigcs]

it really is!

[beautywolfy]

HAHAHAHA, it sounds funny!!

[Easyjet8810]

I agree with ad356, this lady has got a spirit.

[CoastFlight]

U are an radial engine sound junkie!

[ad356]

i love the sound of a radial engine. they could spit sputter and smoke when cold but once they get going smooth as silk. so much character, will never be matched by anything build today.

[salemcripple]

Anything now is just to clinical, and clean. Jet engines (although still bad ass) just don't have the "soul" that these have.

[lonelywolf14]

i can listening to that sound all the day! it's like music to my ear =)

[frostedfur]

I miss this sound in the morning, and the smell of burning av-gas. Better then any cup of coffee on the planet.

[sven17123]

I love this sound !!!!

[Riffchief]

Are those props fixed pitch?

[frima666]

n

no

[aviador1982]

What can of ridiculous question is that? 18 cylinders for a fixed pitch? come on man!

[Riffchief]

Just asking , didn't mean to open that "can of ridiculous".if that's what you mean.

[aviador1982]

shit, I meant "kind of" sorry!

[stevenreiss]

no, all large transport aircraft built from 1946 usually had hamilton standard hydromatic props which were necessary for take off, cruising and landing when the props would turn and shovel air in reverse. small craft don t need this - but quite a few have constant speed units.

there were quite afew technical problems careless adjustments, wrong pitch or loss of oil in the nose of the props could be deadly and caused several accidents.

[Wolpertinger1978]

Yeah, the throaty sound of the Pratt & Whitney radials of the CL-215 are great.

I had opportunity to ride in them several times when I worked SAR.

[OldCrowle]

Awesome! The sound is captured very well, in most videos it doesn't sound as powerful. I just have to keep watching it...

[luvscats69]

love it!!!!

[salemcripple]

GOD i love that sound!

[tbird618]

cool

[7600692]

the thing sounds like its just running

[Easyjet8810]

Which is quite normal, a radial engine isn't an engine you flick a switch to start to turn and then just put it on Run and it runs.

[awkwarddude]

Holy moley! Totally flippin' awesome! What symphonic beauty! Most fantastic radial engine start vid yet!

[planefixer7]

i love it!!

[OttoCarryUs]

FRIM, thanks for posting this vid, this is the most beautifull radial engine start up I have ever seen on U Tube. Just simply raw power at its best. Sound like a 1000ds Harleys firing up. GREAT VIDEO !

[frima666]

my pleasure man !!

[yamahonkawazuki]

@OttoCarryUs i agree. this will be my alarm clocks new sound. ( with around a thousand watts pushing it. ) around 150-158 decibels

[Bergstaller01]

Are these R-2800's?

[Maartenbr01]

Yes, they are. Version Double Wasp CB3 to be precise (CB16 with high blower removed). 2,400 hp max. take-off power (wet).

[agcatdriver]

OH YEAH! That's darn close to being a religious experience!

[StanDSM2GAWD]

sacrament

[Kzanol69]

man that is the sickest youtube video I have seen yet

[Bergstaller01]

Sounds awesome!

I love the sound of radials firing up

[frima666]

god it's so fucking violent !!!!