not understanding/accepting others doesn`t necessarly have to lead to war... considering warmongers and greedy politicians humans is a compliment... sure history tells us, these type of humans:-) will always be in charge..
as long as: warmongers invade some country (for oil or their private interrests) and send others (not their sons and daughters) to fight, there will be war!!.
i dont fucking get it....our country owns 43% of all military power in the world, our military is the worlds best, and no countries oppose a threat to us, until bush came in. Why does the government fear so much of an invasion or a 'terrorist' attatck, if we are so powerful? and the governemnt always need to invade some random country for no reason. We need to just stop deploying our troops and mind our own fucking business.
dont fear terrorists my brother. They only say that shit so you back them fully in attacking other countries. When bush said he is going to go into iraq the media agreed, now they hate him. They are just propaganda tools for who ever is in power. I feel sorry for anyone who believes have the shit they say. Not outright lies but the way they word things changes the story completely.
Well Taliban has been taking over iraq and afghanistan and they have a harsh way of life and they hate us and want us to die soo... if we leave they will take over so we have to go in to prevent the uprise of taliban
Obviously, nothing good has come out of our involvement in Iraq, but we're freeing people from the Taliban in Afghanista, getting rid of training camps and whatnot. We're not quite done in Afghanistan. And we need to be able to finish up there.
That their children fought and died in the middle east is the only connection these idiots have to the war. Just because their kids died over there (god bless 'em and all that) doesn't automatically imbue them with a wealth of knowledge of what's going in Afghanistan. In all actuality, these men don't know shit.
And what the fuck do you know about war or what should and shouldn't be? I hope you die in a war and then some little fuck can belittle your father for speaking out against the reasons you were murdered. You don't know shit KID. You act like you do, but you don't. I don't give a fuck who you pretend to be on youtube. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
Um, no? Once we're out of Iraq, and we stop throwing a trillion dollars a year down that black hole, we'll be able to carry on the war in Afghanistan without worrying about going broke over it. Trust me, if that was even a possibility, we would've pulled out long ago.
FDR had to do the same thing to get the economy rolling, people just like you said the same bullshit and whined the same old tune............its amazing that the republicans were out of play for nearly 2 decades on that one. Why? because the american people were sick of the republican bullshit....just like they are sick of it now. you have to invest in this country to get it out of the hole your boy Bush dug for us. there is no other way to take care of the american people
FDR's methods to get the economy moving, were never fully tested so there is really no proof that the "New Deal" actually did anything to improve the economy and there are many who say it actually dampened the potential growth of the economy.
What took the US and the world out of the Great Depression was war in Europe, revitalizing the Industrial sector.
well im glad i paid my house and truck off so i dont have to worry about it..........and 2 when shit gets better, dont give yourself and the repubs credit, because every one of those fuckers voted against obama's plans......i dont wanna hear one of you motherfuckers taking the glory for it.....if i do recall interest rates have been high for like 5 years, they just are now getting down pretty low (under obama's admin.) since you set the precedent, will let obama take credit for that one
obama will not end any war. its the endless war of terror remember? hes just the frontman for the trilateral commission and council of foreign relations.
damn he's been in office like 6 weeks and he has already supposed to change the world..................more could've been done so far if he didnt have every republican bitching and whining the whole way.
with the economy however, the military is actually not voluntary in many ways. There are many 18-25 year olds that cannot take care of themselves or their families, have no healthcare, have no job due to layoff and have no money to re-educate themselves..........so they have to pimp their asses out to the military to get by.
My brother is in Iraq, because he had no money for school and he got laid-off from his good paying job.......he had nothing left and no prospects, he had to join
lol americans should pull the stick out of their obese asses and realize that around 140.000.000 other humans died in iraq while their precious 4000 hillbillies were killed because they went there on free will cus they joined the army
The count of the dead includes only those dead on the ground. A stump still legally alive thrown in the back of the evac chopper is not in the count..
Wonder how they would feel if they really understood that 911 was a cold-blooded, false-flag murder of the first couple thousand Americans, leading to the unjust invasion and destruction of a peaceful country, and the loss of their sons and daughters for a lie, while Bush and his cohorts make millions from the war each day, and laugh at us for our inability to face the truth?
Just curious...I don't want to argue whether 911 was inside or not. IF it wasn't, suppose IF it wasn't, would you still feel it wrong to do Iraq? And/or Afghanistan?
So just to restate the question; if bin Laden did 911, would it all be just?
Foley, I suspect we are worlds apart in our understandings of who and what drives America's wars of aggression, beginning with Vietnam.
So let me answer with a rather droll comment I heard once:
"Why did we have to go in and bomb the country and kill massive numbers of civilians, when we could have just sent Blockbuster Videos over to locate Bin Laden?"
But you do know that Bin Laden was never even put on any sort of "Wanted" list, right?
Well, I REALLY want to avoid the inside job arguement. I don't agree obviosly but we could go round and round with stuff I'm sure you've already debated with someone else.
I'll leave Viet Nam alone but as for war of agression, I agree about Iraq. I didn't want to go there. But, believing bin Laden did 911, I welcomed Afghanistan.
I just wanted to see what you thought (or might think) if you believed the bin Laden thing. I guess no.
Anyway, he was surely on lists I was given.Honest.
Foley, you say, "Well, I REALLY want to avoid the inside job arguement."
But this is what the discussion is all about, really.
So I now return the question to you:
How would it affect you, knowing all you helped to do to those people over there, if you suddenly began to doubt the government's story about "Arabs with boxcutters" completely thwarting the trillion-dollar defense systems of the most militarily-advanced nation in the world?
I guess I'm overcomplicating a simple question. I'm asking you; If you knew 100% that bin Laden was responsible for 911, would you be in favor of military action in Afghanistan?
foley, you ask, "If you knew 100% that bin Laden was responsible for 911, would you be in favor of military action in Afghanistan? "
And I in turn ask you:
Even if you DID think that, didn't you ever stop to wonder about the remorseless demolishing of small villages, the killing of thousands of old men, women and children, to unsuccessfully hunt for one millionaire and his cohorts?
A bit like performing eye surgery with a Mauser, on the wrong eye, don'tcha think?
Nevermind. We obviously know each other's opinions. I don't feel like arguing the same old arguement that's been made on YouTube over and over. We're not getting anywhere.
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond,..."
-Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers meeting.
Next test of credulity, coming soon to a city near you...
Presient Obama what will you do about all the Tent Cities popping up all over the USA ? Disease will break out and the emergency rooms will be over flowing like the homeless shelters are now .We need HR676 more now than ever and all the Troops Home to help the people living in Tents ! Please do something call 2024561414 White House make the Call
Hey president Obama,I Voted for you because I thought you would END the WAR Bring the Troops Home Now ! They said they didnt NEED US there or WANT us there .I read other than American news because they dont show the Whole Truth Media REform Now ! And HR676 Univeral health Care is another reason The People Voted for YOU ! HR676 Now dont let another 18,000 Citizens Die this Year .Americans First !
President Obama, the US people have made it very clear that they want you to PULL OUT! What part of that do you not understand. That means all troops out of all wars. But then, if they had been paying attention, they would realize that you never promised that. Which is why I voted for a third party who did. I hope some day people will wake up start voting for candidates that are truly anti-war.
Al Quaeda is a creation of the United States....at least in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a secular power and had nothing to do with 911...the whole thing is about OIL, and America's influence over it.
But I'll give you your second point....there are no jobs in the United States, so if our military come home, what will they do?
How about we recreate our manufacturing here in the United States, and put people back to work...before the nation falls completely apart.
...you're right it doesn't...I meant I didn't mean to put a thumbs up...It must have been either too early or too late when I wrote, and being very tired doesn't help much.
I thought troops were meant to protect America....Not invade a country that had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11....Now by sending troops to a country that did...that is very democratic
not understanding/accepting others doesn`t necessarly have to lead to war... considering warmongers and greedy politicians humans is a compliment... sure history tells us, these type of humans:-) will always be in charge..
log140 2 years ago
end all the wars NOW. president obama, war is NOT the answer!! don't be like BUSH, we need CHANGE!!
chadpopstar 2 years ago
War is a part of the human's nature for not understanding the different; as long as the human race exists, there WILL be war.
messiahiar 2 years ago
as long as: warmongers invade some country (for oil or their private interrests) and send others (not their sons and daughters) to fight, there will be war!!.
log140 2 years ago
War represents Human kind's lust for power, and our ability to not settle indifference; as long as there are humans, there will be war.
messiahiar 2 years ago
i dont fucking get it....our country owns 43% of all military power in the world, our military is the worlds best, and no countries oppose a threat to us, until bush came in. Why does the government fear so much of an invasion or a 'terrorist' attatck, if we are so powerful? and the governemnt always need to invade some random country for no reason. We need to just stop deploying our troops and mind our own fucking business.
Flyer222 2 years ago 5
Voila, the reasons are business, oil and power... they don't care too much in costs, in humanity or peace.
DiegoSudak 2 years ago
dont fear terrorists my brother. They only say that shit so you back them fully in attacking other countries. When bush said he is going to go into iraq the media agreed, now they hate him. They are just propaganda tools for who ever is in power. I feel sorry for anyone who believes have the shit they say. Not outright lies but the way they word things changes the story completely.
GLeNss 2 years ago
Well Taliban has been taking over iraq and afghanistan and they have a harsh way of life and they hate us and want us to die soo... if we leave they will take over so we have to go in to prevent the uprise of taliban
brushstroke 2 years ago
Obviously, nothing good has come out of our involvement in Iraq, but we're freeing people from the Taliban in Afghanista, getting rid of training camps and whatnot. We're not quite done in Afghanistan. And we need to be able to finish up there.
HHRB0664 2 years ago
That their children fought and died in the middle east is the only connection these idiots have to the war. Just because their kids died over there (god bless 'em and all that) doesn't automatically imbue them with a wealth of knowledge of what's going in Afghanistan. In all actuality, these men don't know shit.
HHRB0664 2 years ago
And what the fuck do you know about war or what should and shouldn't be? I hope you die in a war and then some little fuck can belittle your father for speaking out against the reasons you were murdered. You don't know shit KID. You act like you do, but you don't. I don't give a fuck who you pretend to be on youtube. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
snoopyviewz 2 years ago
The British and Russian armies were next door to Afghanistan and lost.
America is just coming out ( ? ) of a financial mess and War with Afghanistan will bankrupt the country for good.
badaustad 2 years ago
Um, no? Once we're out of Iraq, and we stop throwing a trillion dollars a year down that black hole, we'll be able to carry on the war in Afghanistan without worrying about going broke over it. Trust me, if that was even a possibility, we would've pulled out long ago.
HHRB0664 2 years ago
FDR had to do the same thing to get the economy rolling, people just like you said the same bullshit and whined the same old tune............its amazing that the republicans were out of play for nearly 2 decades on that one. Why? because the american people were sick of the republican bullshit....just like they are sick of it now. you have to invest in this country to get it out of the hole your boy Bush dug for us. there is no other way to take care of the american people
crowdaddy13 2 years ago
FDR's methods to get the economy moving, were never fully tested so there is really no proof that the "New Deal" actually did anything to improve the economy and there are many who say it actually dampened the potential growth of the economy.
What took the US and the world out of the Great Depression was war in Europe, revitalizing the Industrial sector.
MasterNemesis102 2 years ago
well im glad i paid my house and truck off so i dont have to worry about it..........and 2 when shit gets better, dont give yourself and the repubs credit, because every one of those fuckers voted against obama's plans......i dont wanna hear one of you motherfuckers taking the glory for it.....if i do recall interest rates have been high for like 5 years, they just are now getting down pretty low (under obama's admin.) since you set the precedent, will let obama take credit for that one
crowdaddy13 2 years ago
obama will not end any war. its the endless war of terror remember? hes just the frontman for the trilateral commission and council of foreign relations.
piece of excrement you say? im not black.. xP
happosai27 2 years ago
I wonder if pres Obama has even read or heard of the Manley Report on Afganistan more troops are not the answer
tovasdad 2 years ago
damn he's been in office like 6 weeks and he has already supposed to change the world..................more could've been done so far if he didnt have every republican bitching and whining the whole way.
by the way, enjoy the next 4 years whiny bitch
crowdaddy13 2 years ago
with the economy however, the military is actually not voluntary in many ways. There are many 18-25 year olds that cannot take care of themselves or their families, have no healthcare, have no job due to layoff and have no money to re-educate themselves..........so they have to pimp their asses out to the military to get by.
My brother is in Iraq, because he had no money for school and he got laid-off from his good paying job.......he had nothing left and no prospects, he had to join
crowdaddy13 2 years ago
lol americans should pull the stick out of their obese asses and realize that around 140.000.000 other humans died in iraq while their precious 4000 hillbillies were killed because they went there on free will cus they joined the army
happosai27 2 years ago
Bad estimate but....
64*301,621,157/1,317,207=14,655
Lying complicit media
CNN911Fakes 2 years ago
Screwed that up. Will correct. Sorry.
CNN911Fakes 2 years ago
Can't - don't have the right counts. Very sorry.
The count of the dead includes only those dead on the ground. A stump still legally alive thrown in the back of the evac chopper is not in the count..
CNN911Fakes 2 years ago
4,253?
Nope. well over 16,000. The 4,253 number is a very narrowly defined group.
The reason we are not shown the dead returning home and the reason we are not permitted to see the funerals of our fallen is because of this lie.
A lie perpetuated by the complicit media.
CNN911Fakes 2 years ago
Wonder how they would feel if they really understood that 911 was a cold-blooded, false-flag murder of the first couple thousand Americans, leading to the unjust invasion and destruction of a peaceful country, and the loss of their sons and daughters for a lie, while Bush and his cohorts make millions from the war each day, and laugh at us for our inability to face the truth?
nameofthepen 2 years ago
nameofthepen,
Just curious...I don't want to argue whether 911 was inside or not. IF it wasn't, suppose IF it wasn't, would you still feel it wrong to do Iraq? And/or Afghanistan?
So just to restate the question; if bin Laden did 911, would it all be just?
foley15136 2 years ago
Foley, I suspect we are worlds apart in our understandings of who and what drives America's wars of aggression, beginning with Vietnam.
So let me answer with a rather droll comment I heard once:
"Why did we have to go in and bomb the country and kill massive numbers of civilians, when we could have just sent Blockbuster Videos over to locate Bin Laden?"
But you do know that Bin Laden was never even put on any sort of "Wanted" list, right?
nameofthepen 2 years ago
Well, I REALLY want to avoid the inside job arguement. I don't agree obviosly but we could go round and round with stuff I'm sure you've already debated with someone else.
I'll leave Viet Nam alone but as for war of agression, I agree about Iraq. I didn't want to go there. But, believing bin Laden did 911, I welcomed Afghanistan.
I just wanted to see what you thought (or might think) if you believed the bin Laden thing. I guess no.
Anyway, he was surely on lists I was given.Honest.
foley15136 2 years ago
Foley, you say, "Well, I REALLY want to avoid the inside job arguement."
But this is what the discussion is all about, really.
So I now return the question to you:
How would it affect you, knowing all you helped to do to those people over there, if you suddenly began to doubt the government's story about "Arabs with boxcutters" completely thwarting the trillion-dollar defense systems of the most militarily-advanced nation in the world?
nameofthepen 2 years ago
I guess I'm overcomplicating a simple question. I'm asking you; If you knew 100% that bin Laden was responsible for 911, would you be in favor of military action in Afghanistan?
foley15136 2 years ago
foley, you ask, "If you knew 100% that bin Laden was responsible for 911, would you be in favor of military action in Afghanistan? "
And I in turn ask you:
Even if you DID think that, didn't you ever stop to wonder about the remorseless demolishing of small villages, the killing of thousands of old men, women and children, to unsuccessfully hunt for one millionaire and his cohorts?
A bit like performing eye surgery with a Mauser, on the wrong eye, don'tcha think?
So you believed that?
nameofthepen 2 years ago
Nevermind. We obviously know each other's opinions. I don't feel like arguing the same old arguement that's been made on YouTube over and over. We're not getting anywhere.
foley15136 2 years ago
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond,..."
-Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers meeting.
Next test of credulity, coming soon to a city near you...
nameofthepen 2 years ago
Death to the manipulating mass medias!
They don't count the suicides. This would make around 40.000 casulties.
llothar68 2 years ago
Presient Obama what will you do about all the Tent Cities popping up all over the USA ? Disease will break out and the emergency rooms will be over flowing like the homeless shelters are now .We need HR676 more now than ever and all the Troops Home to help the people living in Tents ! Please do something call 2024561414 White House make the Call
nohealthcare62 2 years ago
Hey president Obama,I Voted for you because I thought you would END the WAR Bring the Troops Home Now ! They said they didnt NEED US there or WANT us there .I read other than American news because they dont show the Whole Truth Media REform Now ! And HR676 Univeral health Care is another reason The People Voted for YOU ! HR676 Now dont let another 18,000 Citizens Die this Year .Americans First !
nohealthcare62 2 years ago
President Obama, the US people have made it very clear that they want you to PULL OUT! What part of that do you not understand. That means all troops out of all wars. But then, if they had been paying attention, they would realize that you never promised that. Which is why I voted for a third party who did. I hope some day people will wake up start voting for candidates that are truly anti-war.
witchbippy 2 years ago 3
stop joining up
marniespeaks 2 years ago
I was a little disappointed at how the start of the report. I hate when newscasters don`t have feelings.
amoep 2 years ago
dran yanky yanks
tescoskick 2 years ago
keep troops there
thats what they're there for
WKaliber1 2 years ago
opps...I mean't to put in a thumbs down here...for what you've said, "That's that what they're there for" doesn't make much sense.
Elin48 2 years ago
they are there to bust up Al Qaeda, it makes no sense to bring them back home
for what? so they can sit here and do fuck all?
WKaliber1 2 years ago
Al Quaeda is a creation of the United States....at least in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a secular power and had nothing to do with 911...the whole thing is about OIL, and America's influence over it.
But I'll give you your second point....there are no jobs in the United States, so if our military come home, what will they do?
How about we recreate our manufacturing here in the United States, and put people back to work...before the nation falls completely apart.
Elin48 2 years ago
doesnt matter who created it, they exist and we have to stop them before they get stronger
we have hundreds of thousands of troops around the world, even in western europe, we dont need them here
WKaliber1 2 years ago
What? Your sentence does not make ANY sense.
ninja4flying 2 years ago
...you're right it doesn't...I meant I didn't mean to put a thumbs up...It must have been either too early or too late when I wrote, and being very tired doesn't help much.
Elin48 2 years ago
I thought troops were meant to protect America....Not invade a country that had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11....Now by sending troops to a country that did...that is very democratic
massdrewski 2 years ago