billions of dollars that these citizens are most likely going to get taxed. -taxes are low in china i ve lived there like no sles tax few if any local taxes no fuel taxes , taxes are no a protestable thing in china for they generaly do not exist compared to any western nation
A protest against having the MagLev Train that can travel at over 500km/hr... hardly makes any pollution if any at all... and produces hardly any noise? Could somebody please let me know exactly why is there this response? My guess would be the billions of dollars that these citizens are most likely going to get taxed.
wtf are you talking about? this is a PROTEST against the government, this shows the exact opposite of what you're thinking. Besides, communism is an economic ideology - has nothing to do how govenment is ran.
in fact, it's only a topical piece of view. you only see the teens shouting, but you can't see the man sitting behind. that very common in china. when the government say yes, there's always a group of people want a No, no matter right or wrong. it's not where the reason rules, it's their naive thinking and the mask man's wanting conspiring.
I can understand people being against the government destroying homes, and not working with the citizens to plan the train, but you would have this problem if you tried to do this type of planning with any train. Maglev is still a lot quieter than normal trains, and maglev power will solve our energy crisis.
This is just REALLY bad planning by the Shanghai planning board, it doesn't mean that maglev isn't a good idea.
The only thing I have against MagLev is that the company convinced the Chinese government to use eminent domain to build the track - the chinese government threw people out of their homes and confiscated property to build the track. I believe it's important to respect private property, and so I don't like governments confiscating property from people. But the MagLev technology itself is a great invention that makes transportation quicker, and it's good to build maglev and not regular trains.
its not a race compition folks. Consuming everything in site is nothing to be proud of. I am refering to the western world and myself. Don't go there China. place valueupon people not things
They are afraid of plumping price of their houses if the train had been built near their district. People believe that strong magnetism is harmful to health.
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Chinese,The Most Envied Race/Civilization
huge land, a pure race, culturely, great economy, great technology, strong military and nukes, most thoughtful leaders, independent political system, physically superior(olympics)
the huge land and pure race combination is enough. mutts (americans), and losers from failed races/civilizations(small countries) envy the pure and mighty Chinese race
its not just olympics, our wisdom in Martial arts influcenced the whole world. most importantly, Chinese is the only race that has surpassed the white race for 18 centuries out of 20 centuries and now whites are so worried about the reemergence of the Chinese which will push them back into the caves.
Too bad that China is very likely going to destroy itself! The work ideal of "as cheap as possible, screw the consequences," will continue to over pollute all their rivers, and eventually Chinese grown food will become so toxic that China will have to import food to feed a billion people
Working with the world, China has the chance to be a great new superpower. Working alone, China will destroy itself. When China wakes up and gets rid of their evil authoritarian regime, they truly WILL be great
kind of like america could be, but our xenophobic stance toward world politics is tantamount to governmental suicide. Embrace the world, don't control it. nobody likes a bully.
It would be nice to have such a project here in Chicago to keep up with the rise in population and loss of jobs. A major infrastruture project such as this technology would help our state as well as our country, unfortunatly the powers that be do not want this at this time, maybe the air line companys? soon we should see the reality of what we need to stimulate the economy!
Thanks for the translation. We have been having rolling blackouts for the past 12 days in Johannesburg and trains have been burnt by angry mobs because they were late.
wow,really? Is South Africa a real crime shithole? but there is a lot of Chinese people over there,is necessary to keep a gun in pocket when you walk in the street?
It is a great country but there are problems which need sorting out. Crime is a huge problem especially violent crime. The problem is the clueless leadership. Chinese business we targeted by criminals but they have taken precautions now so the attaks have diminished. Myself when I drive at night I keep a pistol against my thigh. New goverment will come in next year and maybe things will improve. Regards
because the safe gap between the residents building and the maglev train should be around 150-200m, but the government just designed 22.5m for the safety gap.
These protesters are probably the people who live in Pudong that have to deal with the maglev. I rode it to the airport two days after this protest. It's really quite impractical. The total train riding time was about 7 minutes, instead of 30 minutes by car, but the station to get on was already pretty far from the city center. The route covers some pretty rural areas. I guess the planners made some attempt at trying to disturb the least amount of people.
It must be still illegal. For cases like this, it's quite peaceful. Maybe this is the reason why at first the police didn't come to ban the demanstration. But after that, policemen could be found around those major scenary spots.
I'm sorry to say I don't think so, it's a game among effected residents, developer and the government. Every project in China, and worldwide, has the same problem. The difference is, it is a new technology might cause more uncertainties.
Without considering the Maglev, if it's going to build at least 500 meters away from residential area, the plan is still working, now it's a totally different story mixed with the violence from Shanghai police, sneaky behavior from government, internet block to avoid news spread..., why Shanghai government present such a stupid behavior in front of the world?
i will love Maglev if it's not going to build in front of my house, nobody would like to enjoy the garden view going to be destroyed due to new Mag-Lev route. Shanghai government is doing so just for budget control and sacrifice thousands of people's interest. I'd like to post the current peaceful river side for your audience's understanding.
hehe, if everyone has acted like this, China wouldn't have its economic miracle...In current financial and political situation, protests will only hurt everyone in the end. We need a strong central government at this stage. Protesting is good, but it is just a wrong time.
if you're living in the house 22.5meters away from the Mag-Lev, you won't be so easy to comment others. Only when you weare in the other's shoes, you have the right to comment fairly.
I joined in the protest in my neighbourhood yesterday. No idea why the government wants to build that trash, expensive and radiative. If that's for the World Exop 2010, a worse, almost fatal actually, life is the scenario of the so-called better city.
well this is not legal in china.. which makes sense.
america just LIES ... all LIES
nuggert 1 year ago
China is not much different than the dictatorship in North Korea... both suck...glad I live in a free country not China or North Korea lol
ChannelAmsterdam 1 year ago
他们干什么?反对什么?
henrychina1988 2 years ago
@henrychina1988 反对磁旋浮列车
imnoobshit 2 years ago
Democracy derives from people's life.
caiyia 3 years ago
bs. they just want to get more relocation fee.
bobosiji 3 years ago
dirty shanghainese just want to benefit themselves
they never care about society or our nation.
PRCForever 2 years ago
原来1月7号那天有游行哦?!我怎么都不知道呢?忙着约会了,呵呵。。。那天我也在徐家汇的说
raininsnowy 3 years ago
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Hey I love Shanghai.
If this happened in Beijing, they'd shot them all!!
gewangew 3 years ago
you are crazy ,guy!
china is not north korea.
ouzhisheng99 3 years ago 9
It's true that Shanghai is more democratic than Beijing lol, you won't get shot in Beijing, but the police there will stop u doing things like this.
lxjilyfe 3 years ago
billions of dollars that these citizens are most likely going to get taxed. -taxes are low in china i ve lived there like no sles tax few if any local taxes no fuel taxes , taxes are no a protestable thing in china for they generaly do not exist compared to any western nation
knightspy 3 years ago
For now
gpaluk 2 years ago
Dumb asshole! Come on! Guys! Be cool!
stevenzchan 3 years ago
爱我家园,反对磁悬浮!
FreeSkorea 3 years ago
¿Qué chingados dice ahi?
CarloAlbertoRz 3 years ago
A protest against having the MagLev Train that can travel at over 500km/hr... hardly makes any pollution if any at all... and produces hardly any noise? Could somebody please let me know exactly why is there this response? My guess would be the billions of dollars that these citizens are most likely going to get taxed.
ThankYouESM 3 years ago
yeah taxes or either their homes were going to be knocked down to make way for the train OR both
ToastersAreEvil 3 years ago
ah... i forgot that it could cause many homes to get knocked down, thank you.
ThankYouESM 3 years ago
Maybe if you want more info on the maglev i advise you to watch a TV Show called MegaStructures - Future Trains.
molvi1988 3 years ago 2
Thank You, molvi1988.
It just occured to me just now that what was being chanted is most likely said in English.
Halfway... Simple
Always... Heaven
ThankYouESM 3 years ago
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communist china- that should answer your question
they're fuck,n communist and they do what the fuck they want
and they're very ignorant.
ericssson 3 years ago
wtf are you talking about? this is a PROTEST against the government, this shows the exact opposite of what you're thinking. Besides, communism is an economic ideology - has nothing to do how govenment is ran.
pal2011 3 years ago 2
HOHO, awesome, cool. 反对有理
pearlyueyue 3 years ago
in fact, it's only a topical piece of view. you only see the teens shouting, but you can't see the man sitting behind. that very common in china. when the government say yes, there's always a group of people want a No, no matter right or wrong. it's not where the reason rules, it's their naive thinking and the mask man's wanting conspiring.
Charlesokay 3 years ago
I can understand people being against the government destroying homes, and not working with the citizens to plan the train, but you would have this problem if you tried to do this type of planning with any train. Maglev is still a lot quieter than normal trains, and maglev power will solve our energy crisis.
This is just REALLY bad planning by the Shanghai planning board, it doesn't mean that maglev isn't a good idea.
Ohhhyeahhhhhhh 4 years ago
The magnetism is absolutely no problem on the german transrapid.
The japanese system works different. There are much higher magnetic forces - but mainly to the passengers.
internetcafe111 4 years ago
The only thing I have against MagLev is that the company convinced the Chinese government to use eminent domain to build the track - the chinese government threw people out of their homes and confiscated property to build the track. I believe it's important to respect private property, and so I don't like governments confiscating property from people. But the MagLev technology itself is a great invention that makes transportation quicker, and it's good to build maglev and not regular trains.
burnthebeautiful 4 years ago
its not a race compition folks. Consuming everything in site is nothing to be proud of. I am refering to the western world and myself. Don't go there China. place valueupon people not things
edwinstar100 4 years ago
Why are they against the train?
bartjebeltegoed 4 years ago
They are afraid of plumping price of their houses if the train had been built near their district. People believe that strong magnetism is harmful to health.
ManInPig 4 years ago
who said theres no freedom of Speech in China, theres no violent cops here swinging clubs and kick people ass like in a lot of western countries.
diuleeseafood 4 years ago 6
@diuleeseafood search here in youtube "china black jail".. see the freedom of speech...
SmokeyCough 1 year ago
american mutts envy Chinese pure race !
han2094 4 years ago
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Chinese,The Most Envied Race/Civilization
huge land, a pure race, culturely, great economy, great technology, strong military and nukes, most thoughtful leaders, independent political system, physically superior(olympics)
the huge land and pure race combination is enough. mutts (americans), and losers from failed races/civilizations(small countries) envy the pure and mighty Chinese race
han2094 4 years ago
its not just olympics, our wisdom in Martial arts influcenced the whole world. most importantly, Chinese is the only race that has surpassed the white race for 18 centuries out of 20 centuries and now whites are so worried about the reemergence of the Chinese which will push them back into the caves.
holunhoyeah 4 years ago
Too bad that China is very likely going to destroy itself! The work ideal of "as cheap as possible, screw the consequences," will continue to over pollute all their rivers, and eventually Chinese grown food will become so toxic that China will have to import food to feed a billion people
Working with the world, China has the chance to be a great new superpower. Working alone, China will destroy itself. When China wakes up and gets rid of their evil authoritarian regime, they truly WILL be great
Ohhhyeahhhhhhh 4 years ago
kind of like america could be, but our xenophobic stance toward world politics is tantamount to governmental suicide. Embrace the world, don't control it. nobody likes a bully.
MikeDevaney 3 years ago 2
As a citizen in Shanghai,I OPPOSE another maglev train in Shanghai!
fuckjapanese79 4 years ago
It would be nice to have such a project here in Chicago to keep up with the rise in population and loss of jobs. A major infrastruture project such as this technology would help our state as well as our country, unfortunatly the powers that be do not want this at this time, maybe the air line companys? soon we should see the reality of what we need to stimulate the economy!
1074gasman 4 years ago
What are they saying - any translation.
vornavalley 4 years ago
"Object maglev, guard our homeland"
But I really don't know the reason.
nangoyang 4 years ago
Thanks for the translation. We have been having rolling blackouts for the past 12 days in Johannesburg and trains have been burnt by angry mobs because they were late.
vornavalley 4 years ago
vornavalley:
wow,really? Is South Africa a real crime shithole? but there is a lot of Chinese people over there,is necessary to keep a gun in pocket when you walk in the street?
tobeornot00 3 years ago
It is a great country but there are problems which need sorting out. Crime is a huge problem especially violent crime. The problem is the clueless leadership. Chinese business we targeted by criminals but they have taken precautions now so the attaks have diminished. Myself when I drive at night I keep a pistol against my thigh. New goverment will come in next year and maybe things will improve. Regards
vornavalley 3 years ago
Mr. vornavalley:thanx for ur info,I think Saudi or Dubai are better places for small business.thanx again!!!
tobeornot00 3 years ago
Cheer up! Down with the Maglev train! It is again another wound the German capitalists sucking the peoples blood from, every year!
urielamuka 4 years ago
of course we germans are always bad man ^^, look at the US and A.
Ezyjimi 4 years ago
Hey . . . we both suck
joe187yo 4 years ago
Beginning of democratic reactions in China? Good :)
I agree they dont have to be the test-rats of the effects of maglev (and its magnetic field) on humans !
Even if we ourselves are the same lab-rats for the GSM technology, the wifi technology, the gmo technology....
WilliWauller 4 years ago
Protest by just a few hundred people, NO BIG DEAL. That just makes Shanghai a normal city in the eyes of the world.
banzaidawan 4 years ago
I don't fully understand, why exactly they are protesting it, does anyone know for sure? Does it cut through there neighborhoods or something?
If anyone knows the facts and could explain that would be great.
TheAdjustment 4 years ago
because the safe gap between the residents building and the maglev train should be around 150-200m, but the government just designed 22.5m for the safety gap.
cwcawa 4 years ago 3
Thanks for explanation, dude.
nangoyang 4 years ago
These protesters are probably the people who live in Pudong that have to deal with the maglev. I rode it to the airport two days after this protest. It's really quite impractical. The total train riding time was about 7 minutes, instead of 30 minutes by car, but the station to get on was already pretty far from the city center. The route covers some pretty rural areas. I guess the planners made some attempt at trying to disturb the least amount of people.
slungbungdungclung 4 years ago
It seems that protections without getting permissions from government in advance are now legal in China?
googleabcd 4 years ago
It must be still illegal. For cases like this, it's quite peaceful. Maybe this is the reason why at first the police didn't come to ban the demanstration. But after that, policemen could be found around those major scenary spots.
hywshcn 4 years ago
Too bad people can not decide whether they need the maglev train or not in shanghai.
What a city? Expo 2010? Forget it!
birdie774 4 years ago
I'm sorry to say I don't think so, it's a game among effected residents, developer and the government. Every project in China, and worldwide, has the same problem. The difference is, it is a new technology might cause more uncertainties.
neofqh 4 years ago
The maglev is too expensive. More metro lines is a very good substitution.
equn 4 years ago
Without considering the Maglev, if it's going to build at least 500 meters away from residential area, the plan is still working, now it's a totally different story mixed with the violence from Shanghai police, sneaky behavior from government, internet block to avoid news spread..., why Shanghai government present such a stupid behavior in front of the world?
joanzhou 4 years ago
i will love Maglev if it's not going to build in front of my house, nobody would like to enjoy the garden view going to be destroyed due to new Mag-Lev route. Shanghai government is doing so just for budget control and sacrifice thousands of people's interest. I'd like to post the current peaceful river side for your audience's understanding.
joanzhou 4 years ago
stupid!
wiki0519 4 years ago
hehe, if everyone has acted like this, China wouldn't have its economic miracle...In current financial and political situation, protests will only hurt everyone in the end. We need a strong central government at this stage. Protesting is good, but it is just a wrong time.
onegoodman66 4 years ago
额 为了某一些人的利益建造磁浮的确有失考虑 唉。。。
Pansun 4 years ago
This a crash for EXPO 2010!!!
Worse city, worse life!!
catboylee 4 years ago
整天打手机都不怕,还怕这个辐射?
5米之外就没有辐射的影响了
愚昧的跟风起哄是最大的悲哀
噪声倒是一个问题,需要好好考虑
dittohuang 4 years ago
Where do you live?
Are you kidding with your people.
frankeml 4 years ago
if you're living in the house 22.5meters away from the Mag-Lev, you won't be so easy to comment others. Only when you weare in the other's shoes, you have the right to comment fairly.
joanzhou 4 years ago
虽然不知道是什么事情,但是支持你们,因为我也反对磁悬浮,
sinoee 4 years ago
I joined in the protest in my neighbourhood yesterday. No idea why the government wants to build that trash, expensive and radiative. If that's for the World Exop 2010, a worse, almost fatal actually, life is the scenario of the so-called better city.
carrieday0530 4 years ago 2
maglev is a disaster to be build in urban area.
againstmaglev 4 years ago
stupid
wiki0519 4 years ago
stupid comments only made without the comprehensive understanding on the whole situation.
joanzhou 4 years ago
maglev is a disaster to be build in urban area.
againstmaglev 4 years ago
周末应该去人民广场!市政府门口!
cereus2008 4 years ago 4
为了我们的美丽家园,请相关部门少做劳民伤财之事!!
szyac 4 years ago 3
为了我们的美丽家园,请相关部门少做劳民伤财之事!!
请一起反对磁悬浮!
mctokey 4 years ago 5
支持,坚决抵制磁悬浮
len1en2001 4 years ago 3
和谐社会
美好家园
联起手
反对磁悬浮!!!
blauwss 4 years ago 3