Is it just me or does the news back then seem more honorable than the pitiful excuse for news today? Not specifically on 9/11 but it just seems the quality of news agencies has gone down drastically.
This shows that 9/11 was an inside job and the media never told the people the truth of things. Marlene Cruz says that the explosions occured in the B levels of the Twin Towers. There were 6 levels in the basements of the Twin Towers B1 to B6. Marlene Cruz's testimony is strong evidence that 9/11 was an inside job and there needs to be a new investigation to attacks of 9/11!
Many thermate thermite plasma bombs, two remote-controlled pre-preserved, pre-prepared remote-control-Military jet airliners crashed;Though thats not what made them towers come down symetrically, and pre-pulverized! But the dead-bodies, in cupboards in Tower Lobby areas etc Tell me why?Improperly-Investigated-Mass-Murderous-Genocides:Uninvestigate/Un-Prosecuted! WHY!??
@A707B2 "But the dead-bodies, in cupboards"? I always hear people saying this but I have not seen any proof. Can you source me on some of these facts. Thanks.
@fake2 I am honoured to show my sources; Go to Infowars dot com, actually their sister site prisonplanet .tv dot com, If you get a copy of "9/11 (Chronicles) Truth Rising(pt 1-there IS only one)", which is non - copyrighted documentary dvd film, based upon the 'chronicles' of those whom were there;Fire & rescue workers, & building securities, maintenance etc. Be sure to listen very closely to the Firemen.
Download all documentaries 4 free! Burn copies! See Terrorstorm extras also.
Many thermate thermite plasma bombs, two remote-controlled pre-preserved, pre-prepared remote-control-Military jet airliners crashed;Though thats not what made them towers come down symetrically, and pre-pulverized! But the dead-bodies, in cupboards in Tower Lobby areas etc Tell me why?Improperly-Investigated-Mass-Murderous-Genocides:Uninvestigate/Un-Prosecuted! WHY!??
When fuel or gas is in an enclosed area and gets ignited, it will travel anywhere to find air. And like any fire once it finds air it will explode. Just like if a home was on fire and reached flashover. Jet fuel pouring down an elevator shaft could easily create a flashover, and create a fireball. Also note that the building had gas lines like any other building or home. This is only my opinion guys. But some people claim it happened before the plane hit. In that case I couldnt explain that.
When the planes hit the buildings, there is a big fire ball in each case. That is the jet fuel burning. It's not going to burn, then go back into just liquid travel down near 100 floors and then reignite in an explosive manner. Facts can be proven, lies cannot. Explosives and kerosene are 2 different things completely
@stplghtracer jet feul burns off, but stays a liquid until burned away. So yes it can still travel down elevator shafts. And suck all the oxygen out of the shafts from the intense fire. Then when it finally finds a oxygen it will create a fire ball. I didnt just fall out of a tree. Nor am I trying to make excuses.
You guys love the fireball theory but what do you say to the explosions in bldg 7 before either tower collapsed? Oh I know Berry Jennings was lying? That's all you can say when you can't explain it. Keep the excuses coming I get a kick at watching you guys squirm. LOL!!!
@smartass2st They were like 1,370ft tall! How could jet fuel (which burns extremely fast) travel through an airtight elevator and blow tiles off the wall in the lobby??
@sfjb88 What kind of elevators have u been using? All elevators that iv ever seen are well ventilated. If elevators were air tight and 10 people were stuck in it for a few hours they could die. People get stuck in elevators all the time. For hours until they get fixed or rescue crews arrive. And if the elevator shaft was air tight then the elevator wouldnt be able to move due to air preassure. So what are you talking about??
@smartass2st The elevators did not go from the top to the bottom in one shaft. They had sets of 3 that did about 35 floors each. So in your theory the liquid filled one of the upper shafts until it over flowed to the the floor went to the next elevator shaft and repeated this process 2 more time to get to the basement and then blew up?
@fake2 yes I know that the elevators stopped at certain floors and people had to hop on other ones to go down more floors. But all the elevator shafts were on the same sides all the way down. If you got out of an elevator you didnt have to walk around the building to get to another one. They were all pretty much together. Once you got out of one you walked 3 ft and got into another. So whats ur point?
@smartass2st There are no reports of gushing liquids rushing pass people on the floors and emptying out in another elevator shaft. There are no reports of anyone in the elevators covered in flammable liquids. The elevator doors were hermetically sealed so liquid would not seep into them.
@fake2 Correct. Also, research will reveal that there were 3 sets of NON-connected elevators in each of the twin towers. No single elevator went all the way to the top. They were deliberately designed that way so as to NOT create a 'chimney effect' . I traveled those elevators several times.
@stplghtracer What I can't figure out--have you ever stood next to one of those big planes--when the planes hit, why didn't the towers just fall over?
@phillipgaley There is an interview with the engineer of the towers. He talks about how the building were built to withstand multiple 757 collisions. Using a pencil being poked through a mosquito net as a metaphor for a plane striking the towers.
The towers were hermetically sealed so as to not create a chimney effect in case of fire. So now that
theory is out of the way what is your next thought? I know you won't accept the demolition theory and it's getting harder for you "Debunkers" to keep coming up with excuses but liars and the like need to be put in their place... Your type that fight tooth and nail rejecting a "Real"
independent investigation have no reason to do so but are scared to look foolish when proven wrong. "SCUM"
911 was an inside job bc that is what the evidence shows. Someone explain a fire and gravity collapse that can make over 1100 people disappear leaving no dna trace, can turn 100k tons of concrete to powder, bury huge steel beams in buildings 100s of feet away! Explain the put and call options b4 the attack, the melted steel, the squibs, WTC7s perfect implosion. Dont say, 'Im not an engineer' Our criminal justice system is based on lay people deciding bt'wn competing experts Google - 911 Research
The plane traveling at 500mph was the equivalent of 480,000 pounds of TNT. As for concrete turning to powder. A simple rock crusher has 3 steel blades that spin at high velocity. The impact of a 5 gallon bucket rock crusher can crush a ton an hour. The towers were built with massive heavy beams that fell with about 30 floors of steel per floor. Turning, tumbling, crushing. As more concrete was pulverized, the beams increased to concrete ratio tumbling down.
@zoskiaist Steel doesn't have to melt. The integrity of the connection bolts which were already offset are enough to defeat their purpose. There was a wind load on the building and it wasn't built to sway with the wind. It was built to stay firm against it therefore the frame can snap at weak points. WTC 7 was built over a power plant. Do you not think the system was compromised from the electric shorts from the Towers? Wouldn't power plant transformers cause big explosions when overloaded?
Clearly, she's just a crazy "9/11 truther" and should vote McCain! It's convenient how stories like this get buried, just like Jessica Lynch's pointing out that her "rescue" was staged.
Why are people offended by the people who tell the truth, rather than the people telling the lies? Are they so resistant to the idea that the government lies to them?
You fuckin stupid people steel does not melt at that temp it has to be twice as hot,it was a material called thermite which is used to do this check it out intelligent americanos hey what about the footbaall schedule?
what about the football schedule lets talk about important tings its just a couple of buildings on fire,americans are the smartest most god fearin people god will protect them right,if not for sure our president will the explosion was caused by the impact of the plane,and the drug addicts and homeless people in the basement making drug deals
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The reason why the buildings collapsed is because of the plane fuel, it can melt the steel frames easy. so the building structure melted and the weight from the floors above made the building collapse. Not a bomb, retards.
Blowtorches? You mean an acetylene fuel gas torch, or a TIG/MIG/SAMAW arc welder? The planes EXPLODED ON IMPACT, turning the fuel energy into heat energy in moments, leaving little behind for a prolongued fuel burn. Fuel welding takes place over a longer period of time, requiring certain preheating depending on the torch setting and base metal thickness.
For metal to be melted in seconds needs something like a plasma torch or thermite, not a short explosion.
there are suppressed interviews with all kinds of people saying they heard explosions prior to the planes hitting...the 9/11 commission report contains virtually no mention of those witnesses accounts..so ur saying there was no bomb?
hey Copperskins you were in the WTC at 09/11? Did you see the heavy elevator's felt down with your own eyes? I don't think so ! So don't be so shure. It's only what you believe.
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The explosions in the basment were caused by the heavy elevator's racing down the elevator shafts after the cables were severed by the explosion. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less!
The bombs went off in the basement BEFORE the first plane hit. Google William Rodriguez 9/11. He was a janitor at the WTC for 20 years. He was on B1 level when a bomb blew up on B2 seconds BEFORE the first plane hit. His friend Felipe David was so badly burned from t5he BOMB that skin was coming off his arms and face. BOMBS WENT OFF IN THE BASEMENT BEFORE THE FIRST PLANE HIT!! Nothing more, nothing less. Do some research.
@Copperskins Do you know that one of the most important developmrnts in eleator safety and acceptance was a thing called the "Otis brake"? This is a device that automatically applies the brakes on an elevator car that is falling, whether from cable failure or any other cause. And c'mon, how much force could an elevator car transmit?
How does a plane hitting over 800 feet away cause an explosion in the basement of that building? She was in an elevator that was blown up 800 feet away from where the plane hit.Please explain she clearly states that there was an explosion in the basement.
i dont care what anyone says, the only thign that brought those large, strong structures was explosions in the basement. Its the only way to explain it also that theres 100s of witnesses and not all witnesses can come forward because of getting threatened
i dont care what anyone says, the only thign that brought those large, strong structures was explosions in the basement. Its the only way to explain it also that theres 100s of witnesses and not all witnesses can come forward because of getting threatened
no. I believe the towers were intentionally by suicide hi-jackers. You and others believe the towers were brought down intentionally by our government. We both hold 2 opposing ideas and both of us are unwilling to see the others point. That would be like you trying to convince the insurance agents that you had an accident, while they believe you intentionally hurt yourself. Bad analogy maybe but fitting nonetheless. BTW I don't have a cubicle I have an office.
everyone can understand your point of view, because it was the story we were all told, and all believed from day one of 9/11. however many of the victims and survivors have realized the other theory makes much more sense because over 150 witnesses and surivors felt and were impacted by multiple other explosions. open your mind and realized we were lied to. we know what you think, we all thought that for a while too
You should continue to work heavy equipment. Maybe one day you'll squeeze three fingers off, only to have someone insist that you did it intentionally.
I don't know too much about you except for the fact that you like to argue any point. But i'll have to assume that you're just a rude person that spends his spare time debating 911. That being said, you and I have nothing in common and nothing more to talk about.
.. you're an idiot... why don't you do something constructive. I'm tired of engaging the likes of you who sit in front of News programs trying to figure out different angles on the obvious.
.. so you are thinking that i'm some sort of organized criminal? Thanks. YOur comment "the average new yorker wants..." is not true. I'm pretty sure the average NY'er doesn't even want to talk about 911.
i'm just telling you what I heard, however you figure it out in your mind is your option. I don't want to partake in your silly little arguments about something you read about or saw on tv. You apparently are some type of wacko blogger nerd with nothing else to do but dabble in intrigue.
... what's with you and the word shill? I'm just an average New Yorker who witnessed it with my own eyes. I have no "agendas" here. I really wish that people who weren't actually there just leave it alone and find some other interesting hobby.
I live in an area with 3 major airports: Newark, LaGuardia and Kennedy, and at ALL of the airports (LIKE YOU I ASSUME) you get to hear jets taking off or landing nearby), but you NEVER get to hear an jet fly by your window at full speed. Perhaps a jet flying by at full speed would infact sound like a hotrod. I'm not a scientist, i'm just stating what I actually heard. Key word ACTUALLY, did YOU ACTUALLY hear anything? NO.. that's what I thought.
The more anyone with common sense looks at this the less sense it makes. Why isn't an independant commitee allowed to investigate? Why did the buildings(towers) fall so perfectly? Why did the 3rd building fall perfectly without anything hitting it from outside?
I'm an engineer and it goes against everything I know.
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This whole basement thing is because Willie Rodriguez was a janitor who happened to be in the basement at the time of the attacks. He saved several people and was very brave. BUT he's going around the world doing speeches and he's changing facts along the way. He's not going to stop doing that now, especially since he's in the "limelight". But in changing up the story with all these listeners he's tainting everyone elses credibility.
BrosaJarlen, I commend you on your effort. lilant27, Please do some research. I served in our military and my son is currently. I am a boy scout leader and have done my best to make our country a better place for everyone. I have been patriotic to the bone. What I have learned about the thugs runnig this country is very sad. 9/11 also included the anthrax attacks. The target was the only two democrats that could have stopped the P.act from going through. Please wake up!
When a jet plane hits a building, there will be numerous explosions all throughout the building. One doesn't have to be a scientist to understand that. But there will always be theorists who want to base their entire theory on what a couple "affected" people say. I watched the entire event unfold. The first plane flew right past (above) my office. I saw it all.
No, I was just tidying up my desk at the end of my 9pm to 9am shift... I heard what sounded like a Hot Rod car go by my window and so I whizzed around in my chair to perhaps catch a glimpse of a souped up mustang or something 26 floors down, instead I saw a jet above that was obviously flying too low.... cont'd.
... I didn't think too much of it at the moment because being a NY'er you just take things in stride and keep moving.. mind you, I think it was a few weeks/months earlier I looked out the same window and saw giant tanks and army men... why? they were filming KingKong movie, but I couldn't tell that from 26 floors up.... cont'd...
...anyway, I got up and walked about 10 cubicles over to do 5 more hours in the IT dept. When I got there the plane that I just saw go by my window had just slammed into the north tower and there was a big black hole with smoke coming out. At that point it was still only an interesting oddity that we watched but I was ready to start picking up calls as the day was still just a normal day.
That's an interesting and informative view, but that still doesn't explain how multiple explosions can be set off by a single impact of a plane, in which most of the fuel in it was ignited on impact. Where have you read or heard that numerous explosions are always ignited when that happens? I would like to see. Also, Cruz is only one person, but there were still a couple hundred firefighters and policemen who were at ground zero that made similar claims.
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Except for a few PA policemen who were already on duty in the buildings at the time, I don't believe the fire fighters and police got to the site until several minutes after the hit. The PA police on duty at the time were probably in the mall level walking around. The people that have said they heard explosions BEFORE the plane hit were in the sublevels... cont'd.
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I don't know if you've ever actually been in the WTC, but when they say sublevels we are talking each level is like 20ft high, so being 2 or 3 or 6 sublevels down is very very far underground in big cavernous areas. I am not going to say that it is impossible to tell where a booming sound is coming from but i'm also not going to base entire hypothesis's (sp) on where a carpenter thinks the explosion came from... cont'd.
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The best way to think of this is: Ask any cop about the 5 different stories you get from 5 different EYEwitnesses about the simplest crime. Mind you EYEWITNESSES, people who ACTUALLY SAW (not heard something from 4 basement levels below), there are all different types of people who have different agendas... I would not trust someone's opinion of what happened if they were 100 feet below earth level.
So Cruz did not actually see the elevator car that she was in, the one that was about 90 floors below the plane impact, blow up. And she didn't actually get injured when the car did not blow up. She just made up about the whole thing. You just can't trust those subterranean types.
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I'm not talking about elevators blowing up. We know that jetfuel was in the elevator shafts and the elevators ignited that fuel during their freefall, leading to the explosions. What i'm negating is the theory that many people are propogating that there were explosions BEFORE the planes crashed into the towers. They're saying those were pre-positioned BEFORE 9-11. I don't think that is the case.
Nice try, shill, but, no, we do not know that jetfuel was in the elevator shafts 90 STORIES below the impact zone. Exploding kerosene may look good in Hollywood movies but it is a very very low explosive. Even if it were possible for the jet fuel to travel a thousand feet downward into the WTC basement, then explode it would hardly generate the overpressure to blow elevator doors out or totally destroy 50 ton presses or crumple fire doors into junk. Go read a physics book, chump.
Look, fakey1... reading through my posts, I don't see where I've called anyone names, specifically you. I don't see why you have to resort to call me names, someone you don't even know. I"m not interested in talking to someone who is ignorant enough to resort to that childish crap. Have a nice life.
If anyone doubts WTC 1 or 2... fine. What about WTC 7??? NO plane hit this building folks. If skyscrapers collapse at freefall speed - we SERIOUSLY need to rework our fire evacuation policies! Petition CONGRESS now that ALL skyscrapers MUST be fitted with parachutes for EACH employee and breakaway windows in case of fire!
That was a crime scene, you retard. What does EVERY criminal do after his crime, where possible. He destroy's the evidence. Who was it that ordered the "crime scene" destroyed almost immediately?!?! Answer that and you have your criminal.
Underground tunnels? What kind of XFiles conspiracy shit is this? Where is her green card?, trying to smear the American government because she hates our freedoms. A pin drop from 80 stories up in a reinforced steel building can sound like a grenade, just wonder what a plane would sound like! Her testimony means nothing and neither do the hundreds of other eye witnesses. THEY ALL HATE FREEDOM!
Haha, right on. Plus, Bin Laden never even said they hate us beacuse of our freedoms, he said because of our support of Israel and Saudi Arabia and our presence in the Middle East. (Oh yeah, you were Colbert'D! :D )
Reading your comments make me so disgusted with the fact that you have the right to live in this country. I beg you, if you hate our government, hate our president and think everyone is a "coconspirator" then try living outside the US. Seriously, leave and see if its better for you elsewhere. Were you in NY at the time? Or were you protected by daddy's trust fund in your mansion? You are a typical liberal who wants everything to be "fair", as long as you don't have to give something up.
I wasn't in the towers, but I damn sure wish you were. You wrote "No where has any of these new laws helped to prevent a terror attack" . You know this how? YOU DONT, you, like everyone else, make baseless comments with no backing to them. Believe what you want about 9-11 and it being an inside job, I threw quarters to people like you in NewYork because youre on every corner.
The "jet fuel went down the elevator shafts" explanation is total crap. The sub-levels were NOT connected to the main elevators. Most of the jet fuel burned up on impact. These explosions happened in advance of the planes striking the towers. Besides, wasn't that jet fuel busy melting 100 floors worth of steel? How could there be enough for a massive fireball, basement explosions and melt all the friggin steel in the entire damn building?
I saw a fireball when the plane hit the building. Someting had to cause it. The jet fuel does not explode unless it is put under pressure. In thin air, it burns, THAT'S IT! The fuel was burned in the fireball.
I didn't say the entire nation, nor did i say anyone lied. I'm saying that you are miscontruing her testimony. So many people see this and think it was a big plot, but you werent there. I WAS. I lived in New York, recently moved to Florida, and I was there that day, YOU WERENT. Don't tell me what happened and what didn't happen. I lost people I loved, not you. I agree there are tainted politicians, they outnumber any good ones, but thats irrelevant here.
You don't know WHO among the posters here was there or not, nor WHO lost people they loved or not. Now I understand how you substantiate evidence: with nothing.
When a controlled demolition implosion is being carried out, there are often strategic pre-explosions to weaken and fracture the basement sub-structure to effectively create a cavity into which the building will fall. This was essential for the WTC twin towers because of the 110 stories worth of debris that came crashing down. The resulting demolition pile was so minimal because the volume of the contents of the upper floors were thrown into the basement below.
So so sad, show me one "demolitions expert" that agrees with your theory and I can show you 10 that disprove it. The WTC's were not brought down by pre-planned explosions. You make me sick.
I saw a vid yesterday of a demo expert in Holland. I'll find it and send you the name so you can find it and see. No demo expert in the US is going to touch that one with a 10 ft. pole. I wouldn't, if I was in that buisnes, and in the US. I value my life too much.
I believe I saw that one, it was a Holland demo expert of German I believe. He blatantly says that the WTC towers were brought down by the weight of the top floors collapsing on themselves due to sever structural suport damages and not by "preplanned explosions". Take that nutjobs!
WRONG! He was shown the most played vid of WTC 7. He hadn't even heard of WTC 7 collapsing before then. He said it can't be anything BUT a controlled demo. I would also advise you not to call people nutjobs. Especially people who's intelect you can't even dream of matching.
Hey buddy, this video is about WTC north and south towers, not Tower 7. I know what he said about tower 7 and about the North and South towers. The truth is noone has a clear enough view of tower 7 to make a definite answer. This is why there is so much speculation on what exactly happened. And thanks for looking at my profile, I'm glad you're pathetic enough to point that out to me. Theres no need for rebute any further comments because you're obviously too ignorant to carry out a conversation.
No one has a clear enough view of WTC 7? Are you for real?
There are clear videos from AT LEAST 4 angles of WTC7 falling straight down, with the characteristic crimp seen on the roof as it starts to fall. It WAS NOT hit by planes or debris from the tower 1 & 2. This takes weeks to rigg. This proves that X amount of US citizens knew in advance, that 9/11 was going to happen. And I'm NOT your buddy.
You obviously didn't understand the reason I quoted Herman Göring.
".......This was just one simple example of how he completely exposed us to outside threats."
THAT sentence in your comment the yesterday, is why. Don't sweep it under the carpet. Look into what the administration is doing. It all happened for a reason. And the fact that you call me ignorant and don't want me to rebute, is a sign that you don't have any more arguments.
I won't argue with someone who doesn't listen to what the other party is saying. You only see views of WTC 7 from the top falling down and not what happened at the base of the building to clearly say it was a demolition explosion. THe fact that you think someone knew about 9/11 before hand is appauling and shows how truly sick you are. For arguments sake, if anyone had any idea about it, it was your boy Clinton and his terrible administration that appeased every evil in this world.
1) Clinton is not "my boy". There is so much proof of fore knowledge, so all you have to do is open your eyes. On 9/11 there were several military exercises which included planes hitting the Pentagon and WTC. LOOK IT UP. IT'S OUT THERE. These exercises were shills. That way, when the "real" planes came along, they were not stopped. After all, planes were scrambled over Canada and the Atlantic, hours away from NYC and DC.
Once again, you assume too much. How do you know Clinton's people did everything they can? You dont. You just look fo every possible way to blame GWB for everything that has happened tothis country. Because Clinton apologized for not getting OBL hes "off the hook" so to speak. Please, you make me laugh. Your view is so twisted and your mind is already made up that its impossible to get through your thick skull. granted, you are informed about issues but you are misinformed.
So you mean to tell me that because the defense department has plane exercises to simulate possible attacks on EVERY MAJOR LANDMARK, not just the WTC's an PEntagon, that they used this as a "coverup" to the real bombings. WOW, it doesn't get much crazier than that. It really doesn't man. I've said it befor eand I'll say it again, if you think this country is that bad move to Canada, or better yet head over to the Gaza strip. Thats a peaceful place nowadays.
"......if you think this country is that bad move to Canada, or better yet head over to the Gaza strip."
Get a clue, guy.
Do you have any idea what the three double-u's stands for at the beginning of any internett address? Again you prove you have no idea what research is. If you did, you would maybe understand what we're all talking about.
Yes, Clinton knew about OBL. He has admitted to trying to take him out and failing to do so. His people also gave the new administration everything they had of info about him, but NOTHING WAS DONE by GWB & Co. At best they LET 9/11 happen. Go ahead and insult me all you want. That's what you and your ilk do, when forced up against the wall argumentatively.
yea, they "let 9/11 happen", is this guy crazy or what? you join the conspiracy nuts that believe Roosevelt had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor, so your mind is set that GWB is repeating this act just to drag us to war. Sounds like a pretty plan, in theory anyway. Where do you live anyway? you haven't denied the fact that you have lived by daddies money and wouldn't acrifice anything for this country so I'll assume thats true.
".........you haven't denied the fact that you have lived by daddies money and wouldn't acrifice anything for this country so I'll assume thats true."
You got it buddy. Pleasure talking with such an intelligent and misinformed individual. Make sure you pass the Kool-aid along to your other friends RIGHT AFTER DRINKING IT. We wouldn't want you to infect the gene pool anymore would we?? NAHHHHHHHHHH
There you go again, doing the only thing you know how to do. When you can't come up with an argument in return, you start talking about Kool-Aid, and throw insults.
You know, in 1933, after Hitler had his brown-shirts torch the Reichstag, some people understood right away what was happening. For others, it took until 1945.
I like that line, very catchy. I get the point of it, but you are wrong by a few years, we found out about Hitler well before than and found his death camps toward the end of 43'. Just thought you'd like to know. Hey, maybe that means we'll find out about how corrupt Bush is earlier than you expected!!!! Catch the sarcasm Brosa, catch it!
But when it comes to the so called "Patriot Act" and the "Military Commissions Act", and Article 51 (which you probably haven't even heard of I DO care. I have friends and family in the US and I'm worried about them. Just like anyone who had friends or relatives in Germany in the late 30's were worried about THEM.
But, never mind. I'll talk to you in a couple of years when you understand the consequenses of Article 51. Have a long and prosperous life. (No sarcasm)
I can list means, motive and opportunity for most of the Bush administration. That's ALL YOU NEED to launch a criminal investigation, UNDER NORMAL CICUMSTANCES. This is obviously NOT.
YOU on the other hand, throw insults left and right, and that's ALL you do. Pathetic.
They let 9/11 happen, at best. Worst case scenario is that they orchestrated it.
A few small fires CANNOT bring down a building made of steel and concrete. One of the two towers had the ENTIRE floor burning for several hours. The fire was put out, and the building stood for another 26 years. WTC was not put together like a house of cards, yet it fell like one.
Noone said it was put together like a house of cards, you like to make shit up so you can use another witty "one-liner". bravo, you can make puns and witty phrases all day, but it doesn't change the fact that your comments grossly stretch the truth and you make crazy assumptions that NOONE HAS THE ANSWERS too.
I looked at your profile, and found out that you can't even spell the name of your favorite movie director. Learn how to do research, and YOU TOO may discover that things are not as the neo-cons say they are.
just to clear something up, most of the jet fuel was burned up in the initial fireball. the rest of it ignited the office supplies on the floors near the impact. none of it fell down through the elevator shafts. The shafts were designed so that they wouldn't act a chimneys and help spread the fire, they were sealed off.
Is it just me or does the news back then seem more honorable than the pitiful excuse for news today? Not specifically on 9/11 but it just seems the quality of news agencies has gone down drastically.
Mooxiepoo 6 months ago 2
This shows that 9/11 was an inside job and the media never told the people the truth of things. Marlene Cruz says that the explosions occured in the B levels of the Twin Towers. There were 6 levels in the basements of the Twin Towers B1 to B6. Marlene Cruz's testimony is strong evidence that 9/11 was an inside job and there needs to be a new investigation to attacks of 9/11!
hotters70603ben 11 months ago
You would never see that on TV today thats why i love the internet.
HipHopMaster555 1 year ago
Many thermate thermite plasma bombs, two remote-controlled pre-preserved, pre-prepared remote-control-Military jet airliners crashed;Though thats not what made them towers come down symetrically, and pre-pulverized! But the dead-bodies, in cupboards in Tower Lobby areas etc Tell me why?Improperly-Investigated-Mass-Murderous-Genocides:Uninvestigate/Un-Prosecuted! WHY!??
Nine-Eleven was an INSIDE-JOB!!!
Investigate Prosecute Indemnify Innocence Slaughtered!
A707B2 1 year ago
@A707B2 "But the dead-bodies, in cupboards"? I always hear people saying this but I have not seen any proof. Can you source me on some of these facts. Thanks.
fake2 1 year ago
@fake2 I am honoured to show my sources; Go to Infowars dot com, actually their sister site prisonplanet .tv dot com, If you get a copy of "9/11 (Chronicles) Truth Rising(pt 1-there IS only one)", which is non - copyrighted documentary dvd film, based upon the 'chronicles' of those whom were there;Fire & rescue workers, & building securities, maintenance etc. Be sure to listen very closely to the Firemen.
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A707B2 1 year ago
Many thermate thermite plasma bombs, two remote-controlled pre-preserved, pre-prepared remote-control-Military jet airliners crashed;Though thats not what made them towers come down symetrically, and pre-pulverized! But the dead-bodies, in cupboards in Tower Lobby areas etc Tell me why?Improperly-Investigated-Mass-Murderous-Genocides:Uninvestigate/Un-Prosecuted! WHY!??
Nine-Eleven was an INSIDE-JOB!!!
Investigate Prosecute Indemnify Innocence Slaughtered!
J U S T I C E GOD PLEASE!
A707B2 1 year ago
"You're in a hospital now are you?" *gian poster behind here pretty much explains where she is*
Wiivified 1 year ago
hehehehehhehehehhehehehehehe we jews are very clever hehehhehehehehehe
wejewsdid911HAHAHA89 1 year ago
Gee, do you think Peter Jennings could have announced the fact that BOMBS where going off all over the basement as well as the rest of the WTC?
Nope, Peter Jennings probably was briefed weeks before the "9/11/2001 Event."
Did you hear at the end, "Let me move on to the football schedule?"
...Because fucking football is more important than talking to a key witness about the explosives that brought down the buildings.
Isn't this reason enough to boycott ABC even though it's 10 years later?
IntergalacticDouche 1 year ago
Israelis did 9/11.
MrZonetailedHawk 1 year ago
@MrZonetailedHawk I read that, special moslems were brought in to do it--makes sense, . . .
phillipgaley 1 year ago
@phillipgaley
Muslims by Israeli Passports!!!!same the Israelis terrorists by Europeans Passports in Dubai!!!
Israelis are behind all world woes
MrZonetailedHawk 1 year ago
Karate Kid??? Is that you??
SyndicateLeadr 2 years ago
WOW !! THAT'S REALLY YOU.
laislaparty 2 years ago
When fuel or gas is in an enclosed area and gets ignited, it will travel anywhere to find air. And like any fire once it finds air it will explode. Just like if a home was on fire and reached flashover. Jet fuel pouring down an elevator shaft could easily create a flashover, and create a fireball. Also note that the building had gas lines like any other building or home. This is only my opinion guys. But some people claim it happened before the plane hit. In that case I couldnt explain that.
smartass2st 2 years ago
When the planes hit the buildings, there is a big fire ball in each case. That is the jet fuel burning. It's not going to burn, then go back into just liquid travel down near 100 floors and then reignite in an explosive manner. Facts can be proven, lies cannot. Explosives and kerosene are 2 different things completely
stplghtracer 2 years ago
@stplghtracer jet feul burns off, but stays a liquid until burned away. So yes it can still travel down elevator shafts. And suck all the oxygen out of the shafts from the intense fire. Then when it finally finds a oxygen it will create a fire ball. I didnt just fall out of a tree. Nor am I trying to make excuses.
smartass2st 2 years ago
You guys love the fireball theory but what do you say to the explosions in bldg 7 before either tower collapsed? Oh I know Berry Jennings was lying? That's all you can say when you can't explain it. Keep the excuses coming I get a kick at watching you guys squirm. LOL!!!
AiresQX4 2 years ago
@smartass2st They were like 1,370ft tall! How could jet fuel (which burns extremely fast) travel through an airtight elevator and blow tiles off the wall in the lobby??
sfjb88 1 year ago
@sfjb88 What kind of elevators have u been using? All elevators that iv ever seen are well ventilated. If elevators were air tight and 10 people were stuck in it for a few hours they could die. People get stuck in elevators all the time. For hours until they get fixed or rescue crews arrive. And if the elevator shaft was air tight then the elevator wouldnt be able to move due to air preassure. So what are you talking about??
smartass2st 1 year ago
@smartass2st The elevators did not go from the top to the bottom in one shaft. They had sets of 3 that did about 35 floors each. So in your theory the liquid filled one of the upper shafts until it over flowed to the the floor went to the next elevator shaft and repeated this process 2 more time to get to the basement and then blew up?
fake2 1 year ago
@fake2 yes I know that the elevators stopped at certain floors and people had to hop on other ones to go down more floors. But all the elevator shafts were on the same sides all the way down. If you got out of an elevator you didnt have to walk around the building to get to another one. They were all pretty much together. Once you got out of one you walked 3 ft and got into another. So whats ur point?
smartass2st 1 year ago
@smartass2st There are no reports of gushing liquids rushing pass people on the floors and emptying out in another elevator shaft. There are no reports of anyone in the elevators covered in flammable liquids. The elevator doors were hermetically sealed so liquid would not seep into them.
That's my point.
fake2 1 year ago
@fake2 Correct. Also, research will reveal that there were 3 sets of NON-connected elevators in each of the twin towers. No single elevator went all the way to the top. They were deliberately designed that way so as to NOT create a 'chimney effect' . I traveled those elevators several times.
BrianHamiltonTV 1 year ago
@stplghtracer What I can't figure out--have you ever stood next to one of those big planes--when the planes hit, why didn't the towers just fall over?
phillipgaley 1 year ago
@phillipgaley There is an interview with the engineer of the towers. He talks about how the building were built to withstand multiple 757 collisions. Using a pencil being poked through a mosquito net as a metaphor for a plane striking the towers.
sfjb88 1 year ago
@stplghtracer Please remember the elevators was split up with about 35 floors each. There was not one long shaft to the bottom.
fake2 1 year ago
The towers were hermetically sealed so as to not create a chimney effect in case of fire. So now that
theory is out of the way what is your next thought? I know you won't accept the demolition theory and it's getting harder for you "Debunkers" to keep coming up with excuses but liars and the like need to be put in their place... Your type that fight tooth and nail rejecting a "Real"
independent investigation have no reason to do so but are scared to look foolish when proven wrong. "SCUM"
AiresQX4 2 years ago
@smartass2st As i understand it, these were class "C" buildings, and did not have any gas lines installed.
corvusyt 3 months ago
Danm it!!! why did it cut off!!!! I wanted to know about the confusion with the football schedual!!!!!
frankensteinmoneymac 2 years ago
why is he dodging the comment of the first explosion. you would think that as a reporter one will wanna make more questions about that.
stargazerfreak 2 years ago 4
911 was an inside job bc that is what the evidence shows. Someone explain a fire and gravity collapse that can make over 1100 people disappear leaving no dna trace, can turn 100k tons of concrete to powder, bury huge steel beams in buildings 100s of feet away! Explain the put and call options b4 the attack, the melted steel, the squibs, WTC7s perfect implosion. Dont say, 'Im not an engineer' Our criminal justice system is based on lay people deciding bt'wn competing experts Google - 911 Research
zoskiaist 2 years ago 20
Google and YouTube have purged most of the 911 truth videos after becoming amongst the most watched videos, without any explaination.
Kbonefan 2 years ago 2
@Kbonefan WHAT??
corvusyt 3 months ago
@zoskiaist
The plane traveling at 500mph was the equivalent of 480,000 pounds of TNT. As for concrete turning to powder. A simple rock crusher has 3 steel blades that spin at high velocity. The impact of a 5 gallon bucket rock crusher can crush a ton an hour. The towers were built with massive heavy beams that fell with about 30 floors of steel per floor. Turning, tumbling, crushing. As more concrete was pulverized, the beams increased to concrete ratio tumbling down.
bonsai108 5 months ago
@zoskiaist Steel doesn't have to melt. The integrity of the connection bolts which were already offset are enough to defeat their purpose. There was a wind load on the building and it wasn't built to sway with the wind. It was built to stay firm against it therefore the frame can snap at weak points. WTC 7 was built over a power plant. Do you not think the system was compromised from the electric shorts from the Towers? Wouldn't power plant transformers cause big explosions when overloaded?
bonsai108 5 months ago
@bonsai108 BUT this doesn't explain an explosion in the basement of a tower.
kenman 4 months ago
look at the video called North Tower Exploding on the AE911 truth youtube channel.
You clearly see many systematic explosions tearing down the building
watch?v=dtx_GcFCs6c&feature=PlayList&p=1F271C700C5A9C1A&index=0
zoskiaist 2 years ago
Marlene Cruz!
I wish every American could watch this clip as she exposes the fact that explosions (bombs) were planted in the Twin Towers.
IntergalacticDouche 2 years ago 2
Is it a man or a woman?
gaspanic321 3 years ago
i think it's a woman..
TheGreyDaisy 3 years ago 3
how about we start trying to see what company has the capablility to do, if not. Maybe military, these mf'er need their justice and we need some too.
whoybeen 3 years ago
marlene's so butch! hehe!
MaryStewart 3 years ago 3
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No disrespect..but this guy sounds like the "Karate Kid"...
stangeriam 3 years ago
that's a woman! O_O
MaryStewart 3 years ago 6
Clearly, she's just a crazy "9/11 truther" and should vote McCain! It's convenient how stories like this get buried, just like Jessica Lynch's pointing out that her "rescue" was staged.
Why are people offended by the people who tell the truth, rather than the people telling the lies? Are they so resistant to the idea that the government lies to them?
Turtleproof 3 years ago
You fuckin stupid people steel does not melt at that temp it has to be twice as hot,it was a material called thermite which is used to do this check it out intelligent americanos hey what about the footbaall schedule?
glesgason 3 years ago 6
what about the football schedule lets talk about important tings its just a couple of buildings on fire,americans are the smartest most god fearin people god will protect them right,if not for sure our president will the explosion was caused by the impact of the plane,and the drug addicts and homeless people in the basement making drug deals
glesgason 3 years ago
LETS go usa.
glesgason 3 years ago
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The reason why the buildings collapsed is because of the plane fuel, it can melt the steel frames easy. so the building structure melted and the weight from the floors above made the building collapse. Not a bomb, retards.
JDZ1990 3 years ago
These people don't believe that a tremendous amount of heat can bend metal..
Let's introduced them to blowtorches. :)
Fade2Dark 3 years ago
Blowtorches? You mean an acetylene fuel gas torch, or a TIG/MIG/SAMAW arc welder? The planes EXPLODED ON IMPACT, turning the fuel energy into heat energy in moments, leaving little behind for a prolongued fuel burn. Fuel welding takes place over a longer period of time, requiring certain preheating depending on the torch setting and base metal thickness.
For metal to be melted in seconds needs something like a plasma torch or thermite, not a short explosion.
Turtleproof 3 years ago
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An airplane full of gas crashing into a building is anything but a short explosion.
Fade2Dark 3 years ago
You ... haven't seen the video of the plane impacts? You ... really didn't notice when nearly all of the fuel exploded on impact.
Turtleproof 3 years ago
"a bomb did it."
That's just the simplest answer.
GunshipTrooper 3 years ago 25
@GunshipTrooper my videos prove that the conspiracy theorists are the real conspiracy, the one to profit from the attacks by blaming the gov't.
loosechangeexposed 1 year ago
there are suppressed interviews with all kinds of people saying they heard explosions prior to the planes hitting...the 9/11 commission report contains virtually no mention of those witnesses accounts..so ur saying there was no bomb?
itzahazylife 3 years ago 6
@JDZ1990 , kerosenr melted steel. I wonder what i should do with my kerosene fired space heater in my basement. It obviously can't handlr the temps.
corvusyt 3 months ago
hey Copperskins you were in the WTC at 09/11? Did you see the heavy elevator's felt down with your own eyes? I don't think so ! So don't be so shure. It's only what you believe.
azzo13 3 years ago
the witnesses should stand up for what they saw and not be scared of people calling them unpatriotic
malcolmlhj14 3 years ago 6
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The explosions in the basment were caused by the heavy elevator's racing down the elevator shafts after the cables were severed by the explosion. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less!
Copperskins 3 years ago
The bombs went off in the basement BEFORE the first plane hit. Google William Rodriguez 9/11. He was a janitor at the WTC for 20 years. He was on B1 level when a bomb blew up on B2 seconds BEFORE the first plane hit. His friend Felipe David was so badly burned from t5he BOMB that skin was coming off his arms and face. BOMBS WENT OFF IN THE BASEMENT BEFORE THE FIRST PLANE HIT!! Nothing more, nothing less. Do some research.
911Jedi 3 years ago 3
Really?? BEFORE any planes even hit???? smh....
Lms305 3 years ago
@Copperskins Do you know that one of the most important developmrnts in eleator safety and acceptance was a thing called the "Otis brake"? This is a device that automatically applies the brakes on an elevator car that is falling, whether from cable failure or any other cause. And c'mon, how much force could an elevator car transmit?
corvusyt 3 months ago
watch the firefighter testimony..
multiple basement bombs..
killed a heelova lot of good people..
Why were there bombs in the lobby and basement?
YouTube has these answers and more..
EdgeStormcrow 3 years ago 5
I think he should go on a date with "the sign"
yousurfer2 3 years ago
How does a plane hitting over 800 feet away cause an explosion in the basement of that building? She was in an elevator that was blown up 800 feet away from where the plane hit.Please explain she clearly states that there was an explosion in the basement.
Alcervic 3 years ago 5
i dont care what anyone says, the only thign that brought those large, strong structures was explosions in the basement. Its the only way to explain it also that theres 100s of witnesses and not all witnesses can come forward because of getting threatened
bluffer1235 4 years ago 5
@bluffer1235 will they ever do an independant investigation? I don't think so. They know their guilt!
corvusyt 3 months ago
i dont care what anyone says, the only thign that brought those large, strong structures was explosions in the basement. Its the only way to explain it also that theres 100s of witnesses and not all witnesses can come forward because of getting threatened
bluffer1235 4 years ago
If you are threatened by someone who you KNOW you should take seriously, you'll clam up and get with the program.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago
no. I believe the towers were intentionally by suicide hi-jackers. You and others believe the towers were brought down intentionally by our government. We both hold 2 opposing ideas and both of us are unwilling to see the others point. That would be like you trying to convince the insurance agents that you had an accident, while they believe you intentionally hurt yourself. Bad analogy maybe but fitting nonetheless. BTW I don't have a cubicle I have an office.
avp0713 4 years ago
everyone can understand your point of view, because it was the story we were all told, and all believed from day one of 9/11. however many of the victims and survivors have realized the other theory makes much more sense because over 150 witnesses and surivors felt and were impacted by multiple other explosions. open your mind and realized we were lied to. we know what you think, we all thought that for a while too
goldenskatearmy 3 years ago 5
@goldenskatearmy
Well saaid!
corvusyt 3 months ago
My statement went right over your head. Read it a few more times to "get it".
avp0713 4 years ago
... you let no BS slide past to publics eyes? I'm sure the public thanks you for that.
avp0713 4 years ago
You should continue to work heavy equipment. Maybe one day you'll squeeze three fingers off, only to have someone insist that you did it intentionally.
avp0713 4 years ago
pally? Psychic? Aren't you the one calling everyone (or just me) shill?
avp0713 4 years ago
I don't know too much about you except for the fact that you like to argue any point. But i'll have to assume that you're just a rude person that spends his spare time debating 911. That being said, you and I have nothing in common and nothing more to talk about.
avp0713 4 years ago
.. you're an idiot... why don't you do something constructive. I'm tired of engaging the likes of you who sit in front of News programs trying to figure out different angles on the obvious.
avp0713 4 years ago
.. so you are thinking that i'm some sort of organized criminal? Thanks. YOur comment "the average new yorker wants..." is not true. I'm pretty sure the average NY'er doesn't even want to talk about 911.
avp0713 4 years ago
So now you're the authority on "what can happen to an elevator in a disaster". Ok, Nerd..
avp0713 4 years ago
i'm just telling you what I heard, however you figure it out in your mind is your option. I don't want to partake in your silly little arguments about something you read about or saw on tv. You apparently are some type of wacko blogger nerd with nothing else to do but dabble in intrigue.
avp0713 4 years ago
...shill.. ok. right. Shill for what?
avp0713 4 years ago
... what's with you and the word shill? I'm just an average New Yorker who witnessed it with my own eyes. I have no "agendas" here. I really wish that people who weren't actually there just leave it alone and find some other interesting hobby.
avp0713 4 years ago
Get a life, ok.
avp0713 4 years ago
I live in an area with 3 major airports: Newark, LaGuardia and Kennedy, and at ALL of the airports (LIKE YOU I ASSUME) you get to hear jets taking off or landing nearby), but you NEVER get to hear an jet fly by your window at full speed. Perhaps a jet flying by at full speed would infact sound like a hotrod. I'm not a scientist, i'm just stating what I actually heard. Key word ACTUALLY, did YOU ACTUALLY hear anything? NO.. that's what I thought.
avp0713 4 years ago
She should get the "operation" while she's there. LOL
firstfire603 4 years ago
The more anyone with common sense looks at this the less sense it makes. Why isn't an independant commitee allowed to investigate? Why did the buildings(towers) fall so perfectly? Why did the 3rd building fall perfectly without anything hitting it from outside?
I'm an engineer and it goes against everything I know.
firstfire603 4 years ago 2
go to patriots question 911. com There's hundreds upon hundreds of witnesses,pilots,military personel,engineers. The whole story needs to be told.
firstfire603 4 years ago 2
wow. crazy stuff happened in the basement.
pjt03 4 years ago 2
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This whole basement thing is because Willie Rodriguez was a janitor who happened to be in the basement at the time of the attacks. He saved several people and was very brave. BUT he's going around the world doing speeches and he's changing facts along the way. He's not going to stop doing that now, especially since he's in the "limelight". But in changing up the story with all these listeners he's tainting everyone elses credibility.
avp0713 4 years ago
BrosaJarlen, I commend you on your effort. lilant27, Please do some research. I served in our military and my son is currently. I am a boy scout leader and have done my best to make our country a better place for everyone. I have been patriotic to the bone. What I have learned about the thugs runnig this country is very sad. 9/11 also included the anthrax attacks. The target was the only two democrats that could have stopped the P.act from going through. Please wake up!
gearhead8 4 years ago 5
When a jet plane hits a building, there will be numerous explosions all throughout the building. One doesn't have to be a scientist to understand that. But there will always be theorists who want to base their entire theory on what a couple "affected" people say. I watched the entire event unfold. The first plane flew right past (above) my office. I saw it all.
avp0713 4 years ago
You weren't inside the building, were you?
Dicecube78 4 years ago 3
No, I was just tidying up my desk at the end of my 9pm to 9am shift... I heard what sounded like a Hot Rod car go by my window and so I whizzed around in my chair to perhaps catch a glimpse of a souped up mustang or something 26 floors down, instead I saw a jet above that was obviously flying too low.... cont'd.
avp0713 4 years ago
... I didn't think too much of it at the moment because being a NY'er you just take things in stride and keep moving.. mind you, I think it was a few weeks/months earlier I looked out the same window and saw giant tanks and army men... why? they were filming KingKong movie, but I couldn't tell that from 26 floors up.... cont'd...
avp0713 4 years ago
...anyway, I got up and walked about 10 cubicles over to do 5 more hours in the IT dept. When I got there the plane that I just saw go by my window had just slammed into the north tower and there was a big black hole with smoke coming out. At that point it was still only an interesting oddity that we watched but I was ready to start picking up calls as the day was still just a normal day.
avp0713 4 years ago
That's an interesting and informative view, but that still doesn't explain how multiple explosions can be set off by a single impact of a plane, in which most of the fuel in it was ignited on impact. Where have you read or heard that numerous explosions are always ignited when that happens? I would like to see. Also, Cruz is only one person, but there were still a couple hundred firefighters and policemen who were at ground zero that made similar claims.
Dicecube78 4 years ago 4
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Except for a few PA policemen who were already on duty in the buildings at the time, I don't believe the fire fighters and police got to the site until several minutes after the hit. The PA police on duty at the time were probably in the mall level walking around. The people that have said they heard explosions BEFORE the plane hit were in the sublevels... cont'd.
avp0713 4 years ago
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I don't know if you've ever actually been in the WTC, but when they say sublevels we are talking each level is like 20ft high, so being 2 or 3 or 6 sublevels down is very very far underground in big cavernous areas. I am not going to say that it is impossible to tell where a booming sound is coming from but i'm also not going to base entire hypothesis's (sp) on where a carpenter thinks the explosion came from... cont'd.
avp0713 4 years ago
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The best way to think of this is: Ask any cop about the 5 different stories you get from 5 different EYEwitnesses about the simplest crime. Mind you EYEWITNESSES, people who ACTUALLY SAW (not heard something from 4 basement levels below), there are all different types of people who have different agendas... I would not trust someone's opinion of what happened if they were 100 feet below earth level.
avp0713 4 years ago
So Cruz did not actually see the elevator car that she was in, the one that was about 90 floors below the plane impact, blow up. And she didn't actually get injured when the car did not blow up. She just made up about the whole thing. You just can't trust those subterranean types.
fakey1 4 years ago
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I'm not talking about elevators blowing up. We know that jetfuel was in the elevator shafts and the elevators ignited that fuel during their freefall, leading to the explosions. What i'm negating is the theory that many people are propogating that there were explosions BEFORE the planes crashed into the towers. They're saying those were pre-positioned BEFORE 9-11. I don't think that is the case.
avp0713 4 years ago
Nice try, shill, but, no, we do not know that jetfuel was in the elevator shafts 90 STORIES below the impact zone. Exploding kerosene may look good in Hollywood movies but it is a very very low explosive. Even if it were possible for the jet fuel to travel a thousand feet downward into the WTC basement, then explode it would hardly generate the overpressure to blow elevator doors out or totally destroy 50 ton presses or crumple fire doors into junk. Go read a physics book, chump.
fakey1 4 years ago 3
Look, fakey1... reading through my posts, I don't see where I've called anyone names, specifically you. I don't see why you have to resort to call me names, someone you don't even know. I"m not interested in talking to someone who is ignorant enough to resort to that childish crap. Have a nice life.
avp0713 4 years ago
Love that New York accent.
newsmiracles 4 years ago 2
If anyone doubts WTC 1 or 2... fine. What about WTC 7??? NO plane hit this building folks. If skyscrapers collapse at freefall speed - we SERIOUSLY need to rework our fire evacuation policies! Petition CONGRESS now that ALL skyscrapers MUST be fitted with parachutes for EACH employee and breakaway windows in case of fire!
danitexas 4 years ago 3
Panaceamedia>>>>>hmmm looks like your brain cells are gone.....your a sorry ass..
loverools 4 years ago 2
Haha, you've just been Colbert'D! :D
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
Yep. We need more "YES"men just like you.
That was a crime scene, you retard. What does EVERY criminal do after his crime, where possible. He destroy's the evidence. Who was it that ordered the "crime scene" destroyed almost immediately?!?! Answer that and you have your criminal.
sAME2U22 4 years ago 2
Haha, you've just been Colbert'D! :D
(It's a new fad I'm trying to start)
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
Good one. LOL!! I have one too:
You've been BUSH-whacked.
sAME2U22 4 years ago 2
Underground tunnels? What kind of XFiles conspiracy shit is this? Where is her green card?, trying to smear the American government because she hates our freedoms. A pin drop from 80 stories up in a reinforced steel building can sound like a grenade, just wonder what a plane would sound like! Her testimony means nothing and neither do the hundreds of other eye witnesses. THEY ALL HATE FREEDOM!
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
Green card? She has a New York accent retard! Wow, you must be deaf AND dumb!
TimothyScottOBrien 4 years ago 3
Haha, you've just been Colbert'D! :D
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
They "hate our freedoms"... LOL
Well, given Bush claims this is why "the terrorists" attacked us... he has stripped all our freedoms...so they must like us now! WE'RE SAFE!! YEA!
Wake up.
danitexas 4 years ago
Haha, right on. Plus, Bin Laden never even said they hate us beacuse of our freedoms, he said because of our support of Israel and Saudi Arabia and our presence in the Middle East. (Oh yeah, you were Colbert'D! :D )
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
man youre a dumbfuck...thats exactly the sort of thing the government would want you to say..
chronicleavez 4 years ago 2
Haha, you've just been Colbert'D! :D
(It's a new fad I'm trying to start)
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
Haha, you've just been Colbert'D
chronicleavez 4 years ago
Touche. Touche.
Panaceamedia 4 years ago
Reading your comments make me so disgusted with the fact that you have the right to live in this country. I beg you, if you hate our government, hate our president and think everyone is a "coconspirator" then try living outside the US. Seriously, leave and see if its better for you elsewhere. Were you in NY at the time? Or were you protected by daddy's trust fund in your mansion? You are a typical liberal who wants everything to be "fair", as long as you don't have to give something up.
lilant27 4 years ago
I wasn't in the towers, but I damn sure wish you were. You wrote "No where has any of these new laws helped to prevent a terror attack" . You know this how? YOU DONT, you, like everyone else, make baseless comments with no backing to them. Believe what you want about 9-11 and it being an inside job, I threw quarters to people like you in NewYork because youre on every corner.
lilant27 4 years ago
yes the jet fuel, which people smelled, exploded after it went down the elevator shafts. Did she say something about an elevator? YES.
representativepress 4 years ago
The "jet fuel went down the elevator shafts" explanation is total crap. The sub-levels were NOT connected to the main elevators. Most of the jet fuel burned up on impact. These explosions happened in advance of the planes striking the towers. Besides, wasn't that jet fuel busy melting 100 floors worth of steel? How could there be enough for a massive fireball, basement explosions and melt all the friggin steel in the entire damn building?
idotvads 4 years ago
I saw a fireball when the plane hit the building. Someting had to cause it. The jet fuel does not explode unless it is put under pressure. In thin air, it burns, THAT'S IT! The fuel was burned in the fireball.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 3
You're engaging in anti-science: tailoring evidence until it fits your improbable hypothesis.
idotvads 4 years ago
I didn't say the entire nation, nor did i say anyone lied. I'm saying that you are miscontruing her testimony. So many people see this and think it was a big plot, but you werent there. I WAS. I lived in New York, recently moved to Florida, and I was there that day, YOU WERENT. Don't tell me what happened and what didn't happen. I lost people I loved, not you. I agree there are tainted politicians, they outnumber any good ones, but thats irrelevant here.
lilant27 4 years ago
You don't know WHO among the posters here was there or not, nor WHO lost people they loved or not. Now I understand how you substantiate evidence: with nothing.
idotvads 4 years ago
Thank you I do TV ads, for uploading this.
WNanette 4 years ago 3
When a controlled demolition implosion is being carried out, there are often strategic pre-explosions to weaken and fracture the basement sub-structure to effectively create a cavity into which the building will fall. This was essential for the WTC twin towers because of the 110 stories worth of debris that came crashing down. The resulting demolition pile was so minimal because the volume of the contents of the upper floors were thrown into the basement below.
idotvads 4 years ago
So so sad, show me one "demolitions expert" that agrees with your theory and I can show you 10 that disprove it. The WTC's were not brought down by pre-planned explosions. You make me sick.
lilant27 4 years ago
I saw a vid yesterday of a demo expert in Holland. I'll find it and send you the name so you can find it and see. No demo expert in the US is going to touch that one with a 10 ft. pole. I wouldn't, if I was in that buisnes, and in the US. I value my life too much.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
I believe I saw that one, it was a Holland demo expert of German I believe. He blatantly says that the WTC towers were brought down by the weight of the top floors collapsing on themselves due to sever structural suport damages and not by "preplanned explosions". Take that nutjobs!
lilant27 4 years ago
WRONG! He was shown the most played vid of WTC 7. He hadn't even heard of WTC 7 collapsing before then. He said it can't be anything BUT a controlled demo. I would also advise you not to call people nutjobs. Especially people who's intelect you can't even dream of matching.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
Hey buddy, this video is about WTC north and south towers, not Tower 7. I know what he said about tower 7 and about the North and South towers. The truth is noone has a clear enough view of tower 7 to make a definite answer. This is why there is so much speculation on what exactly happened. And thanks for looking at my profile, I'm glad you're pathetic enough to point that out to me. Theres no need for rebute any further comments because you're obviously too ignorant to carry out a conversation.
lilant27 4 years ago
No one has a clear enough view of WTC 7? Are you for real?
There are clear videos from AT LEAST 4 angles of WTC7 falling straight down, with the characteristic crimp seen on the roof as it starts to fall. It WAS NOT hit by planes or debris from the tower 1 & 2. This takes weeks to rigg. This proves that X amount of US citizens knew in advance, that 9/11 was going to happen. And I'm NOT your buddy.
And don't talk to me about ignorance.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
You obviously didn't understand the reason I quoted Herman Göring.
".......This was just one simple example of how he completely exposed us to outside threats."
THAT sentence in your comment the yesterday, is why. Don't sweep it under the carpet. Look into what the administration is doing. It all happened for a reason. And the fact that you call me ignorant and don't want me to rebute, is a sign that you don't have any more arguments.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
I won't argue with someone who doesn't listen to what the other party is saying. You only see views of WTC 7 from the top falling down and not what happened at the base of the building to clearly say it was a demolition explosion. THe fact that you think someone knew about 9/11 before hand is appauling and shows how truly sick you are. For arguments sake, if anyone had any idea about it, it was your boy Clinton and his terrible administration that appeased every evil in this world.
lilant27 4 years ago
1) Clinton is not "my boy". There is so much proof of fore knowledge, so all you have to do is open your eyes. On 9/11 there were several military exercises which included planes hitting the Pentagon and WTC. LOOK IT UP. IT'S OUT THERE. These exercises were shills. That way, when the "real" planes came along, they were not stopped. After all, planes were scrambled over Canada and the Atlantic, hours away from NYC and DC.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
Once again, you assume too much. How do you know Clinton's people did everything they can? You dont. You just look fo every possible way to blame GWB for everything that has happened tothis country. Because Clinton apologized for not getting OBL hes "off the hook" so to speak. Please, you make me laugh. Your view is so twisted and your mind is already made up that its impossible to get through your thick skull. granted, you are informed about issues but you are misinformed.
lilant27 4 years ago
So you mean to tell me that because the defense department has plane exercises to simulate possible attacks on EVERY MAJOR LANDMARK, not just the WTC's an PEntagon, that they used this as a "coverup" to the real bombings. WOW, it doesn't get much crazier than that. It really doesn't man. I've said it befor eand I'll say it again, if you think this country is that bad move to Canada, or better yet head over to the Gaza strip. Thats a peaceful place nowadays.
lilant27 4 years ago
"......if you think this country is that bad move to Canada, or better yet head over to the Gaza strip."
Get a clue, guy.
Do you have any idea what the three double-u's stands for at the beginning of any internett address? Again you prove you have no idea what research is. If you did, you would maybe understand what we're all talking about.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
And yes, they DID have exercises that morning.
Did you know that airplanes were successfully scrambled 67, (SIXTY SEVEN) times in the year prior to 9/11/01?
Flight 77 Unbelieveable?????? is a vid you should watch.
It's here on YT
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
I didn't say EVERY MAJOR LANDMARK, I said the pentagon and WTC. THAT'S IT!
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
Yes, Clinton knew about OBL. He has admitted to trying to take him out and failing to do so. His people also gave the new administration everything they had of info about him, but NOTHING WAS DONE by GWB & Co. At best they LET 9/11 happen. Go ahead and insult me all you want. That's what you and your ilk do, when forced up against the wall argumentatively.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
yea, they "let 9/11 happen", is this guy crazy or what? you join the conspiracy nuts that believe Roosevelt had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor, so your mind is set that GWB is repeating this act just to drag us to war. Sounds like a pretty plan, in theory anyway. Where do you live anyway? you haven't denied the fact that you have lived by daddies money and wouldn't acrifice anything for this country so I'll assume thats true.
lilant27 4 years ago
".........you haven't denied the fact that you have lived by daddies money and wouldn't acrifice anything for this country so I'll assume thats true."
I hereby invite you to look at my profile, PUNK!
FUCK YOU, AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 3
You got it buddy. Pleasure talking with such an intelligent and misinformed individual. Make sure you pass the Kool-aid along to your other friends RIGHT AFTER DRINKING IT. We wouldn't want you to infect the gene pool anymore would we?? NAHHHHHHHHHH
lilant27 4 years ago
There you go again, doing the only thing you know how to do. When you can't come up with an argument in return, you start talking about Kool-Aid, and throw insults.
You know, in 1933, after Hitler had his brown-shirts torch the Reichstag, some people understood right away what was happening. For others, it took until 1945.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
I like that line, very catchy. I get the point of it, but you are wrong by a few years, we found out about Hitler well before than and found his death camps toward the end of 43'. Just thought you'd like to know. Hey, maybe that means we'll find out about how corrupt Bush is earlier than you expected!!!! Catch the sarcasm Brosa, catch it!
lilant27 4 years ago
I could care less about how corrupt GWB is.
But when it comes to the so called "Patriot Act" and the "Military Commissions Act", and Article 51 (which you probably haven't even heard of I DO care. I have friends and family in the US and I'm worried about them. Just like anyone who had friends or relatives in Germany in the late 30's were worried about THEM.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
But, never mind. I'll talk to you in a couple of years when you understand the consequenses of Article 51. Have a long and prosperous life. (No sarcasm)
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
I can list means, motive and opportunity for most of the Bush administration. That's ALL YOU NEED to launch a criminal investigation, UNDER NORMAL CICUMSTANCES. This is obviously NOT.
YOU on the other hand, throw insults left and right, and that's ALL you do. Pathetic.
They let 9/11 happen, at best. Worst case scenario is that they orchestrated it.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
A few small fires CANNOT bring down a building made of steel and concrete. One of the two towers had the ENTIRE floor burning for several hours. The fire was put out, and the building stood for another 26 years. WTC was not put together like a house of cards, yet it fell like one.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
Noone said it was put together like a house of cards, you like to make shit up so you can use another witty "one-liner". bravo, you can make puns and witty phrases all day, but it doesn't change the fact that your comments grossly stretch the truth and you make crazy assumptions that NOONE HAS THE ANSWERS too.
lilant27 4 years ago
I looked at your profile, and found out that you can't even spell the name of your favorite movie director. Learn how to do research, and YOU TOO may discover that things are not as the neo-cons say they are.
BrosaJarlen 4 years ago 2
show me the ten. shalom. all those who love a lie shall have their reward in sheol.
GOTTshua 4 years ago
just to clear something up, most of the jet fuel was burned up in the initial fireball. the rest of it ignited the office supplies on the floors near the impact. none of it fell down through the elevator shafts. The shafts were designed so that they wouldn't act a chimneys and help spread the fire, they were sealed off.
Zulu424 4 years ago 2
WOW wouldn't this count for testimonial to get the ball rolling on an investigation???? GEEZ
boylebongo 4 years ago
In an age where you can send 3000+ men to their deaths in a foreign land over a complete bunch of lies? If only..
feet77 4 years ago
he said Bomb not plane idiot. stop being so blind
krdando 5 years ago 3