Not only awesome....but LOVE that last ultra-satisfying tom hit at the end, as if George were expressing "UGH YES!!"...and he's only got better with time, the Greek god!
@rapedbythebeast Cannible Corpses (CC Doritos) Drummer sucks shit. He just blasts out of beat through the entire song then comes up with some random ass fill...
@jbinn2 what the fuck do you know i bet you can play a fucking beat to save your pathetic 711 junk food eating ass. SO STFU. Go lube up your joystick and go fuck yourself
George is probably the best drummer in existence. Just look how he plays it's like fucking magic, and when he slows, its like slow motion. When Dallas yells BOW thou Fiend....It's incredible.
@danboese213 I guess it's not your cup of tea, I find it better and better every time I hear it. You know whats boring to me? 3 chord melodies with some whiny baby repeating a chorus 10 times in a song. To each his own.
Can you believe that these men aren't getting more money than Justin Beiber's (sp?) wigger ass or even Paris Hilton. Something's fucking wrong here. Atleast they get more respect.
this dude tried to tell me that jordison was more creative as a drummer than kollias.lol he said "yeah george has more skill and technique, but he's not as creative as a drummer. i mean theres more to metal than just blast beats." now the way i see things is, if joey cant physically play the same things george can....than how is he more creative? lol his spectrum isnt as broad as george's. and besides its pretty obvious that kollias. is more intelligent that joey, its shows in his drumming
@MetalheadJC926 i agree with you, you cant realy compare most of them because dimmu r black metal this is like a fucking brutality sounding band man, im a drummer of 15 years and man i cant do the one foot blast as fast but im almost ther but yeah he aint human aye he is a beast on the kit man, a guy commented saying the drummer sucks haha im like D: u r fucked in the head u stupid cunt haha!!!
There's no way Inferno is better than George. He two-foot blasts everything, and his double bass speed and endurance is nowhere near where George is at. And Mike Portnoy? George is in another league. I'm not saying those guys are bad drummers, I'm just saying George is better. And it's hard to argue otherwise. There's nothing they can do that he can't...much better.
@555MARCUS666 Swept at a jazz clinic? I'm guessing you've never watched George's DVD. It may be called "Intense Metal Drumming," but that doesn't mean he can't play anything else. There's quite a long and interesting solo on there, and it's not really "metal" at all. Second, why do you say on a 5-piece? Like oh, you can only play jazz on a 5-piece? How about George uses his whole kit and kicks some ass. Third, how many different playing styles are there? I missed where that equals being better.
@MetalheadJC926 So you're saying that the criticism to be the best drummer is to be faster than another drummer? George may be the worlds fastest drummer, but mike portnoy, neil peart, john bonham they are all so much more technic drummers, george is not.
@mmikkk First off, your question makes no sense, please re-word that so I can understand your point. Second, I never claimed George is the world's fastest drummer, the record books would tell us that he's not. And third your comparison of George to Portnoy and Peart continues to show me how ignorant those outside the metal world are, they see one video of someone playing fast and assume that's all they can play. I believe "technical" is the word you're looking for, and you're dead wrong there
@IMBACHABRI Inferno is the drummer for Behemoth. Killer drummer, but still, can't touch George. haha Like I said, Inferno two-foot blasts everything, and his double bass speed and endurance is not nearly as good. In Behemoth's songs, you won't find Inferno playing more than a few seconds worth of fast double bass at a time, whereas with Nile there are songs where it's literally almost all double bass with fills in between and maybe some blast beats here and there. hah
@Zofti I wasn't only talking about speed at all. One of the most important things in extreme metal drumming is endurance, being able to not only play something, but to be able to play it for a long period of time. Guys like George, Derek Roddy, and Pete Sandoval, they can play intense beats in their songs for a very long time, sometimes similar beats are played for the entire duration of a song.
In bands like Behemoth and Vader, yeah you'll find a lot of blast beats, but when it comes to double bass, the playing is limited, because a two-foot blast is much less intense than playing bomb blasts for a minute or two straight, or double bass at 240+ bpm. Again, I'm not trying to knock Behemoth or Vader, they're great bands, but just pointing out differences in skill between drummers. Some people don't always give enough credit where it's deserved.
@MetalheadJC926 Lol you're comparing two excellent drummers based on their style, that's not possible. But I must say that Inferno's style is much more appellative to me. I've met both of them and George is more friendly, but they're both not comparable.
@Infernalord I'm only comparing them because they play the same kind of music, that's why they're comparable. It's hard to talk about the "style" of any drummer really, because each has his own unique style. If anything, I think George may be one of the most fluid drummers out there. It's especially noticeable during fills and things like that, his hands don't really go from snare to tom 1 to tom 2, it's more like his arms are just moving around his kit and his hands are hitting it.
@MetalheadJC926 There are some parts where Inferno and George are quite similar. For example, if a fast song is played even faster live (290BPM I think it was.)It'd sound like george, right? But that's something that Inferno did when they played live here in Sweden. I've never heard inferno play anything that fast before, believe me when I say that GK and Inferno might aswell be equals. (Although he blasts everything with 2 feet :@)
@MetalheadJC926 you havent heard much inferno then, definately have not,
just the fact that he doesnt one foot blast makes him suck, he as some ridiculous fills that even george would have trouble accomplishing, trust me i know both nile and behemoth very well, from first album to last. george is actually influenced by inferno so its unfair to say that. to me they are both so good that they cant really be compared. tie for me.
@TrashMetal25 I have listened to every album Behemoth has ever put out quite a number of times, just as I have Nile. I'm a huge fan of both drummers. However, when you're looking at things objectively from the standpoint of skill, what's easier to play? Blast beats at 250 bpm with two feet or one? The answer is obvious, and I'm not trying to discredit Inferno, but I'm simply giving credit where it's due.
@MetalheadJC926 if you were telling the truth you would know that songs like slave shall serve clock at higher then that, and the new song Defiling Morality Of Black God is a song with just constant blasting at 300 bpm. when i listened to it on my friends huge surround system hes not just blasting, hes also double bassing at that speed, for the basically the entire song,
@TrashMetal25 I'm trying to argue my point with you, and you're talking to me like I'm an idiot. I know Slaves Shall Serve is fast, I didn't say it wasn't. If you want to go that route, how about Kafir at 280 bpm. And by the way, after measuring the song you mentioned with a metronome, it clocks in at about 265 bpm, do you have any idea how fast 300 bpm is? Well fyi, nothing Behemoth OR Nile has ever made has been 300 bpm, that is a fact my friend.
@TrashMetal25 The stuff you said at the end of that first comment is nonsensical, it really means nothing. And I bought George's DVD right away when it came out, so believe me I know the material in it quite well. I've never seen Inferno do anything showboat-ish like a crossover while he's playing one of Behemoth's songs. And George has quite a history as well, playing in bands like Sickening Horror and Nightfall.
@TrashMetal25 And if you're talking about creativity in "making up that material," I will ask you to please watch George's DVD from start to finish, not just the clips you can find on YouTube. You will then understand the meaning of creativity. And listen to some Sickening Horror and the bridge-type part in this song. This is an argument you're not going to win without making things up, like that Defiling Morality ov Black God being 300 bpm, which Inferno plays TRIPLET double bass throughout.
@MetalheadJC926 i own the dvd itself lol, ive watched it twice, and im not making things up i know my bands, im not saying inferno is better im saying they are both equal in their own ways, its obvious that you listen to nile more then behemoth and infact prefer nile over behemoth. i am a devoted fan of both and this what i see. i could start naming the interesting fills in various behemoth songs but it seems no use,
@TrashMetal25 Okay, so Inferno has been in more bands, I wasn't making the case that George was. And really Nile and Behemoth are both two of my favorite bands, it really depends on what mood I'm in. And your defense of Inferno hasn't proven why I should think he's a better drummer. You make a poor argument for him, and you're still completely wrong about any material from either band being 300 bpm,
@MetalheadJC926 well apart from being in so many bands and writing so many songs with interesting drum parts and fills, its hard to argue for a drummer who doesnt make instructional dvds and such,
@TrashMetal25 If you think either of those songs are 300 bpm I'm done arguing with you. Actually either way I'm done arguing with you, you can make whatever claims about Inferno and Behemoth's music you'd like, but I'm not going to agree with them, every argument you've made has been extremely vague and you haven't countered any argument I've made. Or, not well, at least.
@TrashMetal25 I could make an instructional DVD, however it doesn't make me better than George Kollias. I never used that as an argument for it, yet it seems to be the only thing you're addressing.
@TrashMetal25 Usually that's what you do in an argument, you address the other persons points and logical process to disprove what they're trying to say.
@MetalheadJC926 yeah i know that and i pretty much did do that i just didnt give specific examples, but ill do that later to be honest theres so many examples i could use etc etc, as for the speed inferno typically plays faster live, hes reached up to 295 bpm, im pretty sure george has done the same though,
george and inferno are both extremely fast and technical drummers,
both are roughly the same age, however george is INFLUENCED by inferno,
its hard to hard to argue which one is better because each factor can have a different value depending on how you view drumming, so from creativity to speed, to live preformance, to amount of work done, and impact on other drummers,
@MetalheadJC926 george kollias is probably more of an icon then inferno for simple reasons, he does drum workshops or whatever you call them, goign from city to city, and enjoys teaching drummer, thus he has a bigger inlfuence overall, however, inferno is the one that influenced george,
see what im getting at?
as for the initial playing, when it comes to live preformances george is definately superior, however there is not much variety in his playing and fills, which the exeption of a few songs,
@MetalheadJC926 george does still have a large amount of creativity overall, when you watch him play vs hear him play, you see extra thigns that you would not normall expect or even hear, but overall thats usually not the case, inferno does not do any fancy tricks or anything, but he is alot more creative, i find anyways, you will never find two songs that have similar drumming,
@MetalheadJC926 george i think has more musical knowledge of the instrument overall, however he doesnt really expose that knowledge when creating actual songs, inferno probably doesnt know as much but he plays like he does, as for the amount of songs, again, inferno has contributed more then george has to metal music, because of the amount of bands he contributed to and the amount of albums etc etc,
@MetalheadJC926 in terms of the style, george i guess you could say triumphs over inferno, reasons being that he is an expert on every drumming technique there is, since they drum at different styles ( 2 foot vs 1 foot ) again you cant technically say one way is better then the other, it again depends entirely on how your viewing it, i myself am a drummer, and i personally find two foot harder then 1 foot blasting, which i love doing by the way,
@MetalheadJC926 so you can kinda see the scale balances out, even though each side of the scale has different objects being weighed, i can give further examples but i think you know what im getting at,
@MetalheadJC926 the final thing id like to say though is the surprise that each drummer brings, when i listen to a george-era nile song or album, i know what im in for, where as every album i listen to by behemoth, every song, there is always something different that the other song did not have, and it surprises me and i love that, i love being able to not know what will happen, then be amazed by it, that is along with the other things, a fact.
@TrashMetal25 In using the argument about George being influenced by Inferno, you're making the assumption that that automatically makes the other person a better drummer. George was influenced by Lars Ulrich of Metallica, yet George's drumming is far greater than Lars'. Also, how many drummers in the scene have started swiveling since George became bigger and he was the drummer everyone thought of when they talked about the swivel technique? And like you say George has done tons of clinics.
@MetalheadJC926 and personally for me, drumming like this gets to the point where it gets really hard to compare and say which is better then which, because there is just so much that has to be taken into account,
@TrashMetal25 So it's impossible to say that influence creates the better drummer. That line of thinking also, I believe, negates your point about Inferno having a greater influence in metal music. And you claim that George is an "expert on every drumming technique" - wouldn't that necessarily make him better? Combined with having more knowledge of the instrument, like you said? So no, I don't see what you're getting at.
@MetalheadJC926 if your an expert on every drum technique yet do not show it on your music no, it negates the fact of having that knowledge in the first place, inferno doesnt have that influence because he doesnt do stuff like that,
@MetalheadJC926 it all depends on how you look at it though, george has a healthy amount of interesting fills but you cant denounce that he uses that same tom fill a million times in every song hes ever played,
@MetalheadJC926 and i am quite certain that inferno has had to come up with more material then george had to, along with all the behemoth albums he was also part of Azarath, Witchmaster, Damnation, Artrosis and Devilyn, thats 6 vs georges three, math,
@TrashMetal25 And I'm sorry but Inferno is no match for George on fills. Again, not saying Inferno's fills are garbage, they're awesome. But being objective about things once again, compare the duration or even distance between pieces of the kit. George is doing crossovers in his fills for instance, I've never seen Inferno do that. This video I think proves both of my points quite well.
it depends on what you mean, personally i dont like the same tom fill 500 times in one song but apparently your tastest are different. id definately say that george puts out alot more in live preformances and yes he can handle that duration longer as well, but reffering to just the albums the drumming is for me evenly matched. personally i think the one thing that makes inferno good is his power in his drumming, george is fast and sharp, inferno is large and massive,
@MetalheadJC926 yeah george can do some pretty crazy shit, you should see his instructional dvd, its exellent, but just because inferno hasnt done that doesnt mean he cant and even if he cant, it doesnt really matter. there are other factors at play other then crossovers. and you also seem to forget the fact that inferno has been playing drums for quite a long time, hes been in more albums then george, and had to make up that material, which is all different,
@larswarlock That's like saying 2 handed fills are more difficult than one-handed fills. It makes no sense at all. It takes literally half the effort of each foot when you blast with two feet versus one. They're much easier. I could probably two foot blast at over 300 bpm playing with just my feet. I can't play that fast with one foot. Tell me how that equates to being more difficult with two.
@larswarlock you know that 1foot blast is basicly playing the same speed with one foot as you would play with two. So no... one foot blast is WAY more difficult. Check out some of his drumlesson videos and you'll see what i'm talking about.
@MetalheadJC926 I would say George is technically better, but I admire Inferno's style of drumming a lot more. But then again, I would say Behemoth is a band with musicians that work so well together... that's just me though.
About endurance, as long as Inferno does the shit live, with increased speed as they tend with some songs, there is no need for more endurance. Seen them live, and no signs of slowing down there.
Also, while Behemoth is musically going worse, Inferno is more musical drummer imo.
And while others giving you thumbs up think you're a pro.. stop talking about speed. For Inferno blasting with two feet is more comfortable.
Also, there are drummers who do stuff what GK couldn't.
@Kriegsphilosphier Perhaps the song tempo is faster, but even still there are a few things Inferno does that allows that to happen. First off, I understand if you want to say it's "more comfortable" to blast with two feet, but the fact is it allows you to play faster because your feet are doing less work. Also, during many bomb blast parts, Inferno plays 8ths on his snare while playing 8th triplets on double bass, rather than 16ths. Again, this makes things much easier for him.
Thank you for acting mature even in Youtube, people like this are welcome here. First of all I don't consider myself biased towards either direction. Source for the nickname is obvious, but I acknowledge and admit if the band is becoming worse or better. Atleast I tend not to be biased nor a fanboy.
Triplet bomb blasts; not a weakness. You can hear 8ths over 16th double bass all the time, triplets sound as good as any bomb blast, if not trickier.
@Kriegsphilosphier I wasn't saying Behemoth is worse than Nile or that Nile is better than Behemoth. My point all along has been, that I believe George Kollias is a better drummer than Inferno, regardless of what their bands sound like. I'll admit I do prefer Nile, but Behemoth is good every now and then also. That's just personal preference, but I digress. I'm also not talking about triplet bomb blasts, I'm talking about playing 8th notes with the hand and 8th triplets on the feet in a 4/4.
Two feet blasting: If I could find a way to "cheat", to become faster e.g with my left hand, I'd do it. It wouldn't affect they sound. Without Youtube you wouldn't be able hear the difference, because there isn't much happening, except single stroke rolling. Haven't seen Kollias utilize much his free foot while blasting ( correct me if I'm wrong ).
Endurance: where did you measure their endurance ? Doing what, and for how long? Who won ?
@Kriegsphilosphier In a 4/4 time, a bomb blast would be 8th notes on the hand during 16ths with the feet. George does this. Inferno does not, because I don't believe he is as comfortable playing the beat at fast tempos. Just like his double bass playing; Inferno doesn't play double bass for any long period of time when the tempo gets up around 240/250+. He plays in short bursts. Again, I believe he is not comfortable at that tempo.
I'd still say it's not about ability. I believe Inferno can do his bomb blasts and doubles properly. The level these guys are.. I wouldn't say Inferno can't keep the tempo. I do agree GK is faster, but on the other hand being more boring.
Seems like his principle in writing music is: " Lets take this part off, I can do it faster. Why do anything odd and cool while I can just blast this through @270."
Couldn't we argue about Lars Ulrich vs. Jamie Saint Merat ? Easier by far.
@Kriegsphilosphier Dude you cannot honestly say you've watched the video we've been posting on and then make your last comment about George being boring. The part where he changes things up near the end of the song is a great pattern, and when do you ever hear anything like that in Death Metal? Not to mention the rest of the video, just watching him play or listening to it is not boring at all, it's actually pretty amazing. His consistency and speed and power is incredible by any measure.
@Kriegsphilosphier And I'm not saying Inferno isn't exciting to listen to or watch, but I don't think you can make the claim that Inferno is any more creative or exciting than George. There's a certain element to Death Metal music that requires repetition or similar types of beats. That doesn't make the music boring, it makes it what the music is supposed to be.
I know this song better than you can see it from the video, shit audio.
And though there are "certain elements" that makes death metal stand out, it doesn't require solos, it doesn't require blast beat and it certainly doesn't require speed.
Not mocking Nile, one of my top bands in last.fm (AOTW is great).
Following a pattern while creating music spoils everything.
@Kriegsphilosphier Your arguments were halfway decent up until this, honestly man that's the silliest thing I've ever heard someone say. First of all, there aren't solos in Death Metal. Don't know where you got that. Blast beats and speed, on the other hand, are two of those "certain elements" that have defined the genre, and to say that Death Metal doesn't need them is frankly idiotic. Blast beats used to be nothing but noise, that's how they started out. Then Pete Sandoval came along.
Yes I am more than aware with the history of blasting and metal. For example, take a car. Some cars don't move with petrol/diesel, or only have three wheels, still to be considered a car.
You really can't name a death metal tune/band without blast beats ? Skank beat obviously doesn't count.
Or it's a matter of view, you really seem uptight about this.
Yes I am more than aware with the history of blasting and metal. For example, take a car. Some cars don't move with petrol/diesel, or only have three wheels, still to be considered a car.
You really can't name a death metal tune/band without blast beats ? Skank beat obviously doesn't count.
Or it's a matter of view, you really seem uptight about this.
@Kriegsphilosphier He was the drummer for Terrorizer at the time, and he took the blast beat and make it structured, made it fit into a time. He then became the drummer for Morbid Angel and started popularizing triggers, and from there Death Metal took off and it became the type of beat most associated with the genre. Death Metal would not be Death Metal today without Pete Sandoval and the blast beat. So again, saying it doesn't need blast beats, is just plain idiotic. I'm sorry dude.
@MetalheadJC926 Death Metal is characterized by growl type vocals(now becoming more extreme like gutterals, and other stuff) time signature changes, time changes, and fast tempos. No where is that stating that death metal needs blast beats. hell even grind doesnt need blast beats to be grind, and it was founded on that shit. Dont get me wrong i love blast beats, but death metal can be death metal without em.
Not defending Inferno though, neither of these two drummers are the "greatest influence". My point is , if it's unclear, that comparing drummers by speed or how they prefer their blast beats. Mike Portnoy is a novice compared to these guys, though, ha :)
@Kriegsphilosphier I have never claimed to be a pro, I'm simply a fan of both bands who has studied and listened closely to both drummers. On the topic of endurance, it's silly to say there's no need for more endurance - that's one of the most important measures of a good Death Metal drummer. So is speed, and so is musicality and creativity. And people continue to argue with me on this but I still remain saying, given their playing differences, George is overall a better drummer than Inferno.
And I have defended that logically from just about any angle and can continue to do so, because it's true. Does that mean I don't like Behemoth? No, of course not. And I see you have an obvious bias, simply from your username. And your last point. Of course there are drummers out there who have skills George doesn't - it's stupid to even bring that up as a put down to George, it's not. But for being so focused on the genre of Extreme Metal, he's a damn balanced drummer.
Hmm ok i appologise, i probs didnt read it right, i to am influenced by his playing i have been playing drums since i was 5 and studied jazz for 5 of em, but that does nothing for your feet so i was blown away by his "swivel" technique, Friends?.
No worries! Its easy to misread something by glancing over it and I just dont like being called a poser thats listens to that shit!! thats sick though, jazz really gives you that other dimension.Something I want to try and fit into my playing a little more. But sometimes I spread myself to thin in one practice session so I just focus on something I want to learn, and his two stroke a side swivel is the shit!!! anyways all hail Nile! the new album is amazing
Are you kidding man? Im surely no poser and I have an immense amount of respect for Nile.You probably misread my comment as I was saying"Nile is THE shit." in modern slang that means they are fucking amazing,atleast when I say it thats what it means. so fuck off man Ive been a fan of nile for amny years and george is a huge influence to me
George has earned a place on the right of Zeus, as the God of Metal drumming :) He probably needs the physical abilities of an athlete to play like this for an entire concert, only with different muscles used and perfected.
Can't wait to see these guys!!!
dustyreed123 4 days ago
Was that Randy from South Park shouting FUCK YEAH! ?
Angelrat70 3 months ago
...omg... o_________________________________O
KxJxO 3 months ago
Not only awesome....but LOVE that last ultra-satisfying tom hit at the end, as if George were expressing "UGH YES!!"...and he's only got better with time, the Greek god!
Scratch47 4 months ago
I reckon they paid that guy to scream fuck yea, fits perfectly!
VisceralDisgust 6 months ago 2
εχει σταξει το παλικαρι!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
badlamgrind 7 months ago 5
fuck man!!! his a god!!!!
YoungProDragon 8 months ago
I like how there's one guy in the audience going "FUCK YEAAAAAH" after hearing the song title Nile's gonna play haha.
Motor2head22 8 months ago 19
@Motor2head22, hahah,I first thought he said "Fuck you!" XD
Bearthoughts 8 months ago
cannibal rules thats all there is to it..period
rapedbythebeast 9 months ago
@rapedbythebeast Cannible Corpses (CC Doritos) Drummer sucks shit. He just blasts out of beat through the entire song then comes up with some random ass fill...
jbinn2 6 months ago
@jbinn2 what the fuck do you know i bet you can play a fucking beat to save your pathetic 711 junk food eating ass. SO STFU. Go lube up your joystick and go fuck yourself
rapedbythebeast 6 months ago
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I just took a shit on my keyboard.
TooMuchGass 4 months ago
@jbinn2 you dont know shit about drumming i see and its CANNIBAL CORPSE dumb ass
NaxoAteo 5 months ago
@jbinn2 You are an idiot
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0:06 "Fuck Yeah !" Always cracks me up :D
luciferincestus 11 months ago
I totally LOVE the part where he plays fast!
sebbimon 11 months ago
0:07 "Fuck You!" xDDD
TheAbeex 1 year ago
Why this fight about Gerorge and inferno? Who cares? Both are great drummers who make great music.
Metalobsession94 1 year ago
love it george keep it up.
MorbidMinisterX 1 year ago
George is probably the best drummer in existence. Just look how he plays it's like fucking magic, and when he slows, its like slow motion. When Dallas yells BOW thou Fiend....It's incredible.
sixfootcorpse 1 year ago
My favourite drummers:
1. George Kollias
2. Nicko McBrain
3. Chris Adler
4. Jaska Raatikainen
5. Martin Marthus Skaroupka
Thonero 1 year ago
the beat at 2:13 is so fucking amazing!
ashleyluvspat 1 year ago
The speed is very impressive but it does get boring
danboese213 1 year ago
@danboese213 I guess it's not your cup of tea, I find it better and better every time I hear it. You know whats boring to me? 3 chord melodies with some whiny baby repeating a chorus 10 times in a song. To each his own.
Necronaut 1 year ago
"Laying Fire Upon Apep" "FUCK YeA" lol I would have done that
PearLDrummeR1871 1 year ago
@PearLDrummeR1871 he's says fuck you, if you notice soon as it starts he says go fuck yourself aswell, he's and idiot lol
beanie3one6 1 year ago
@beanie3one6 ohhhhhhh fuck him then lol
PearLDrummeR1871 1 year ago
Can you believe that these men aren't getting more money than Justin Beiber's (sp?) wigger ass or even Paris Hilton. Something's fucking wrong here. Atleast they get more respect.
clipsryan 1 year ago
His fucking chin moved !
parkid35 1 year ago
George is a fucking legend.. man.. look at him go.. fuck me running.
db170909k 1 year ago
every Nile fan knows that it isn't "Laying fire on apep", it is "Laying fire upon aPEP!!"
:D
sick898 1 year ago
this song is so ridiculously fast, I cant even imagine attempting this on drums
Mysticyautja 1 year ago
-LAYING FIRE UPON APEP
-FUCK YOUUUUUU
Theokondak 1 year ago
@Theokondak sorry m8 he says fuck YHEA!!!
Tomtefadern 1 year ago
LOL!
*Inhuman growl* "Laying fire, upon apeeepppp!"
*Random guy in crowd* "FUCK YEAH!"
I dunno, I'm pretty stoned, just waked n baked, and that made me lol.
George Kollias is god anyway.
LitaniTilSatan666 1 year ago
@LitaniTilSatan666 Haha dude I read it as "just wanked n baked"
leanfiend444 1 year ago
@leanfiend444 Nah, I wanked off while watching this vid.
No homo.
LitaniTilSatan666 1 year ago
@LitaniTilSatan666 Haha! Hey man no homo taken... I do it too.. its too fucking epic to pass up.
leanfiend444 1 year ago
@LitaniTilSatan666 same here, I can`t stop laughing
ZeekFlo 1 year ago
this is a god i swear!!!
xXPureDeathMetalXx 1 year ago
this guy is a god!!!
xPureDeathMetalFanx 1 year ago
Jonas Brothers' drummer shits all over Kolias!!!
hopwhip15 1 year ago
Nile needs to be in Wacken but now with George Kollias
Gospel969 1 year ago
0:07 best part of the song hand down xDDD
hellraizr666 1 year ago
this dude tried to tell me that jordison was more creative as a drummer than kollias.lol he said "yeah george has more skill and technique, but he's not as creative as a drummer. i mean theres more to metal than just blast beats." now the way i see things is, if joey cant physically play the same things george can....than how is he more creative? lol his spectrum isnt as broad as george's. and besides its pretty obvious that kollias. is more intelligent that joey, its shows in his drumming
frankriley17 1 year ago
hah. the day joey jordison plays something that isn't in 4 is the day i quit playing
warwick487 1 year ago
LOL he does the same fills in just about every song too..stupid 4s where he rolls the kit
frankriley17 1 year ago
@frankriley17 this is true, but i find it hard to care when it always sounds good
JobForAGabby 1 year ago
dumbass nu-metalers may worship the guy, but joey jordison really doesn't have shit on george kollias.
TheOrangeFondler 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 i agree with you, you cant realy compare most of them because dimmu r black metal this is like a fucking brutality sounding band man, im a drummer of 15 years and man i cant do the one foot blast as fast but im almost ther but yeah he aint human aye he is a beast on the kit man, a guy commented saying the drummer sucks haha im like D: u r fucked in the head u stupid cunt haha!!!
EliTheGoth777 2 years ago
You need at least mighty balls of steel to play this, George's are of titan!
That man is a beast:D
MrDevilsheep666 2 years ago 2
the best drummer after Ernie and Bert
choupsyes 2 years ago 3
Taste thou death!
TheOrangeFondler 2 years ago
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the best drummer after inferno and mike portnoy
NCulto 2 years ago
There's no way Inferno is better than George. He two-foot blasts everything, and his double bass speed and endurance is nowhere near where George is at. And Mike Portnoy? George is in another league. I'm not saying those guys are bad drummers, I'm just saying George is better. And it's hard to argue otherwise. There's nothing they can do that he can't...much better.
MetalheadJC926 2 years ago 34
@MetalheadJC926 u are drunk off ur arsh if u think george isnt as good as portnoy first off. secondly portnoy is better. hands down.
george would get swept by portnoy in a jazz clinic on a 5 piece. i mean shit lets be real with ourselves.
u look at the number of bands and different playing styles portnoy has done hell in just the last 10 years and its an easy decision.
555MARCUS666 1 year ago
@555MARCUS666 Swept at a jazz clinic? I'm guessing you've never watched George's DVD. It may be called "Intense Metal Drumming," but that doesn't mean he can't play anything else. There's quite a long and interesting solo on there, and it's not really "metal" at all. Second, why do you say on a 5-piece? Like oh, you can only play jazz on a 5-piece? How about George uses his whole kit and kicks some ass. Third, how many different playing styles are there? I missed where that equals being better.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 So you're saying that the criticism to be the best drummer is to be faster than another drummer? George may be the worlds fastest drummer, but mike portnoy, neil peart, john bonham they are all so much more technic drummers, george is not.
mmikkk 1 year ago
@mmikkk First off, your question makes no sense, please re-word that so I can understand your point. Second, I never claimed George is the world's fastest drummer, the record books would tell us that he's not. And third your comparison of George to Portnoy and Peart continues to show me how ignorant those outside the metal world are, they see one video of someone playing fast and assume that's all they can play. I believe "technical" is the word you're looking for, and you're dead wrong there
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 who the fuck is inferno?
IMBACHABRI 1 year ago
@IMBACHABRI Inferno is the drummer for Behemoth. Killer drummer, but still, can't touch George. haha Like I said, Inferno two-foot blasts everything, and his double bass speed and endurance is not nearly as good. In Behemoth's songs, you won't find Inferno playing more than a few seconds worth of fast double bass at a time, whereas with Nile there are songs where it's literally almost all double bass with fills in between and maybe some blast beats here and there. hah
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 Two foot blasts sounds the same or better in effect. But if you only talk about speed in drumming you should stop commenting them.
Zofti 1 year ago
@Zofti I wasn't only talking about speed at all. One of the most important things in extreme metal drumming is endurance, being able to not only play something, but to be able to play it for a long period of time. Guys like George, Derek Roddy, and Pete Sandoval, they can play intense beats in their songs for a very long time, sometimes similar beats are played for the entire duration of a song.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
In bands like Behemoth and Vader, yeah you'll find a lot of blast beats, but when it comes to double bass, the playing is limited, because a two-foot blast is much less intense than playing bomb blasts for a minute or two straight, or double bass at 240+ bpm. Again, I'm not trying to knock Behemoth or Vader, they're great bands, but just pointing out differences in skill between drummers. Some people don't always give enough credit where it's deserved.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 word
arturbastos18 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 Lol you're comparing two excellent drummers based on their style, that's not possible. But I must say that Inferno's style is much more appellative to me. I've met both of them and George is more friendly, but they're both not comparable.
Infernalord 1 year ago
@Infernalord I'm only comparing them because they play the same kind of music, that's why they're comparable. It's hard to talk about the "style" of any drummer really, because each has his own unique style. If anything, I think George may be one of the most fluid drummers out there. It's especially noticeable during fills and things like that, his hands don't really go from snare to tom 1 to tom 2, it's more like his arms are just moving around his kit and his hands are hitting it.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 There are some parts where Inferno and George are quite similar. For example, if a fast song is played even faster live (290BPM I think it was.)It'd sound like george, right? But that's something that Inferno did when they played live here in Sweden. I've never heard inferno play anything that fast before, believe me when I say that GK and Inferno might aswell be equals. (Although he blasts everything with 2 feet :@)
renshammar 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 you havent heard much inferno then, definately have not,
just the fact that he doesnt one foot blast makes him suck, he as some ridiculous fills that even george would have trouble accomplishing, trust me i know both nile and behemoth very well, from first album to last. george is actually influenced by inferno so its unfair to say that. to me they are both so good that they cant really be compared. tie for me.
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 I have listened to every album Behemoth has ever put out quite a number of times, just as I have Nile. I'm a huge fan of both drummers. However, when you're looking at things objectively from the standpoint of skill, what's easier to play? Blast beats at 250 bpm with two feet or one? The answer is obvious, and I'm not trying to discredit Inferno, but I'm simply giving credit where it's due.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 if you were telling the truth you would know that songs like slave shall serve clock at higher then that, and the new song Defiling Morality Of Black God is a song with just constant blasting at 300 bpm. when i listened to it on my friends huge surround system hes not just blasting, hes also double bassing at that speed, for the basically the entire song,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 I'm trying to argue my point with you, and you're talking to me like I'm an idiot. I know Slaves Shall Serve is fast, I didn't say it wasn't. If you want to go that route, how about Kafir at 280 bpm. And by the way, after measuring the song you mentioned with a metronome, it clocks in at about 265 bpm, do you have any idea how fast 300 bpm is? Well fyi, nothing Behemoth OR Nile has ever made has been 300 bpm, that is a fact my friend.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 it starts off at that speed and during the singing the blasting speed increases if you listen closely,
and there have been speed increases in nile as well,
george ripps 300 during the hittite dung incantation if im not mistaken,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 The stuff you said at the end of that first comment is nonsensical, it really means nothing. And I bought George's DVD right away when it came out, so believe me I know the material in it quite well. I've never seen Inferno do anything showboat-ish like a crossover while he's playing one of Behemoth's songs. And George has quite a history as well, playing in bands like Sickening Horror and Nightfall.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 And if you're talking about creativity in "making up that material," I will ask you to please watch George's DVD from start to finish, not just the clips you can find on YouTube. You will then understand the meaning of creativity. And listen to some Sickening Horror and the bridge-type part in this song. This is an argument you're not going to win without making things up, like that Defiling Morality ov Black God being 300 bpm, which Inferno plays TRIPLET double bass throughout.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 i own the dvd itself lol, ive watched it twice, and im not making things up i know my bands, im not saying inferno is better im saying they are both equal in their own ways, its obvious that you listen to nile more then behemoth and infact prefer nile over behemoth. i am a devoted fan of both and this what i see. i could start naming the interesting fills in various behemoth songs but it seems no use,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 Okay, so Inferno has been in more bands, I wasn't making the case that George was. And really Nile and Behemoth are both two of my favorite bands, it really depends on what mood I'm in. And your defense of Inferno hasn't proven why I should think he's a better drummer. You make a poor argument for him, and you're still completely wrong about any material from either band being 300 bpm,
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 am i really? i just checked with one of them metronome sites and compared and from what i could tell i was right, bah,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 well apart from being in so many bands and writing so many songs with interesting drum parts and fills, its hard to argue for a drummer who doesnt make instructional dvds and such,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 If you think either of those songs are 300 bpm I'm done arguing with you. Actually either way I'm done arguing with you, you can make whatever claims about Inferno and Behemoth's music you'd like, but I'm not going to agree with them, every argument you've made has been extremely vague and you haven't countered any argument I've made. Or, not well, at least.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 we talked about the instuctional dvd, im not stupid, its not like im gonna argue that it doesnt exist or some shit,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 I could make an instructional DVD, however it doesn't make me better than George Kollias. I never used that as an argument for it, yet it seems to be the only thing you're addressing.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 do you want me to adress everything else?
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 Usually that's what you do in an argument, you address the other persons points and logical process to disprove what they're trying to say.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 yeah i know that and i pretty much did do that i just didnt give specific examples, but ill do that later to be honest theres so many examples i could use etc etc, as for the speed inferno typically plays faster live, hes reached up to 295 bpm, im pretty sure george has done the same though,
and heres the thing though,
to me they are evenly matched,
so to argue they are evenly matched?
i guess i have to break down the drumming then,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926
so since you asked, ill start with the basic,
george and inferno are both extremely fast and technical drummers,
both are roughly the same age, however george is INFLUENCED by inferno,
its hard to hard to argue which one is better because each factor can have a different value depending on how you view drumming, so from creativity to speed, to live preformance, to amount of work done, and impact on other drummers,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 george kollias is probably more of an icon then inferno for simple reasons, he does drum workshops or whatever you call them, goign from city to city, and enjoys teaching drummer, thus he has a bigger inlfuence overall, however, inferno is the one that influenced george,
see what im getting at?
as for the initial playing, when it comes to live preformances george is definately superior, however there is not much variety in his playing and fills, which the exeption of a few songs,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 george does still have a large amount of creativity overall, when you watch him play vs hear him play, you see extra thigns that you would not normall expect or even hear, but overall thats usually not the case, inferno does not do any fancy tricks or anything, but he is alot more creative, i find anyways, you will never find two songs that have similar drumming,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 george i think has more musical knowledge of the instrument overall, however he doesnt really expose that knowledge when creating actual songs, inferno probably doesnt know as much but he plays like he does, as for the amount of songs, again, inferno has contributed more then george has to metal music, because of the amount of bands he contributed to and the amount of albums etc etc,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 in terms of the style, george i guess you could say triumphs over inferno, reasons being that he is an expert on every drumming technique there is, since they drum at different styles ( 2 foot vs 1 foot ) again you cant technically say one way is better then the other, it again depends entirely on how your viewing it, i myself am a drummer, and i personally find two foot harder then 1 foot blasting, which i love doing by the way,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 so you can kinda see the scale balances out, even though each side of the scale has different objects being weighed, i can give further examples but i think you know what im getting at,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 the final thing id like to say though is the surprise that each drummer brings, when i listen to a george-era nile song or album, i know what im in for, where as every album i listen to by behemoth, every song, there is always something different that the other song did not have, and it surprises me and i love that, i love being able to not know what will happen, then be amazed by it, that is along with the other things, a fact.
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 In using the argument about George being influenced by Inferno, you're making the assumption that that automatically makes the other person a better drummer. George was influenced by Lars Ulrich of Metallica, yet George's drumming is far greater than Lars'. Also, how many drummers in the scene have started swiveling since George became bigger and he was the drummer everyone thought of when they talked about the swivel technique? And like you say George has done tons of clinics.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 so out of the about 10 points i listed you argued about 2 of them back,
its like, for example,
you have an amazing guitar player,
who is widely known,
everyone likes him blah blah blah,
but there is a drummer that hasnt been on posters or anythign,
but hes just as good as that drummer that is widely known,
this is basically like george and inferno,
inferno being the one thats in some senses, just as good, but not as widely known,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 and personally for me, drumming like this gets to the point where it gets really hard to compare and say which is better then which, because there is just so much that has to be taken into account,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 So it's impossible to say that influence creates the better drummer. That line of thinking also, I believe, negates your point about Inferno having a greater influence in metal music. And you claim that George is an "expert on every drumming technique" - wouldn't that necessarily make him better? Combined with having more knowledge of the instrument, like you said? So no, I don't see what you're getting at.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 if your an expert on every drum technique yet do not show it on your music no, it negates the fact of having that knowledge in the first place, inferno doesnt have that influence because he doesnt do stuff like that,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 stuff like that being clinics and dvds, just to clear it up,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 it all depends on how you look at it though, george has a healthy amount of interesting fills but you cant denounce that he uses that same tom fill a million times in every song hes ever played,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 and i am quite certain that inferno has had to come up with more material then george had to, along with all the behemoth albums he was also part of Azarath, Witchmaster, Damnation, Artrosis and Devilyn, thats 6 vs georges three, math,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 And I'm sorry but Inferno is no match for George on fills. Again, not saying Inferno's fills are garbage, they're awesome. But being objective about things once again, compare the duration or even distance between pieces of the kit. George is doing crossovers in his fills for instance, I've never seen Inferno do that. This video I think proves both of my points quite well.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926
it depends on what you mean, personally i dont like the same tom fill 500 times in one song but apparently your tastest are different. id definately say that george puts out alot more in live preformances and yes he can handle that duration longer as well, but reffering to just the albums the drumming is for me evenly matched. personally i think the one thing that makes inferno good is his power in his drumming, george is fast and sharp, inferno is large and massive,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@TrashMetal25 large and powerful, sorry, haha, that measn the same thing
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 yeah george can do some pretty crazy shit, you should see his instructional dvd, its exellent, but just because inferno hasnt done that doesnt mean he cant and even if he cant, it doesnt really matter. there are other factors at play other then crossovers. and you also seem to forget the fact that inferno has been playing drums for quite a long time, hes been in more albums then george, and had to make up that material, which is all different,
TrashMetal25 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 2foot blast is more difficult than 1 foot blasts
larswarlock 1 year ago
@larswarlock That's like saying 2 handed fills are more difficult than one-handed fills. It makes no sense at all. It takes literally half the effort of each foot when you blast with two feet versus one. They're much easier. I could probably two foot blast at over 300 bpm playing with just my feet. I can't play that fast with one foot. Tell me how that equates to being more difficult with two.
MetalheadJC926 1 year ago
@larswarlock you know that 1foot blast is basicly playing the same speed with one foot as you would play with two. So no... one foot blast is WAY more difficult. Check out some of his drumlesson videos and you'll see what i'm talking about.
Metalobsession94 1 year ago
@Metalobsession94 Well, you might have not noticed that at all, but two foot blasts and one foot blasts sound the same in effect.
Zofti 1 year ago
@Zofti i know it sounds the same but that doesn't change the fact that one foot blast is way harder
Metalobsession94 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926 I would say George is technically better, but I admire Inferno's style of drumming a lot more. But then again, I would say Behemoth is a band with musicians that work so well together... that's just me though.
TheRemotestCipher 1 year ago
@MetalheadJC926
About endurance, as long as Inferno does the shit live, with increased speed as they tend with some songs, there is no need for more endurance. Seen them live, and no signs of slowing down there.
Also, while Behemoth is musically going worse, Inferno is more musical drummer imo.
And while others giving you thumbs up think you're a pro.. stop talking about speed. For Inferno blasting with two feet is more comfortable.
Also, there are drummers who do stuff what GK couldn't.
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier Perhaps the song tempo is faster, but even still there are a few things Inferno does that allows that to happen. First off, I understand if you want to say it's "more comfortable" to blast with two feet, but the fact is it allows you to play faster because your feet are doing less work. Also, during many bomb blast parts, Inferno plays 8ths on his snare while playing 8th triplets on double bass, rather than 16ths. Again, this makes things much easier for him.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@MetalheadJC926
Thank you for acting mature even in Youtube, people like this are welcome here. First of all I don't consider myself biased towards either direction. Source for the nickname is obvious, but I acknowledge and admit if the band is becoming worse or better. Atleast I tend not to be biased nor a fanboy.
Triplet bomb blasts; not a weakness. You can hear 8ths over 16th double bass all the time, triplets sound as good as any bomb blast, if not trickier.
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier I wasn't saying Behemoth is worse than Nile or that Nile is better than Behemoth. My point all along has been, that I believe George Kollias is a better drummer than Inferno, regardless of what their bands sound like. I'll admit I do prefer Nile, but Behemoth is good every now and then also. That's just personal preference, but I digress. I'm also not talking about triplet bomb blasts, I'm talking about playing 8th notes with the hand and 8th triplets on the feet in a 4/4.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@MetalheadJC926
Two feet blasting: If I could find a way to "cheat", to become faster e.g with my left hand, I'd do it. It wouldn't affect they sound. Without Youtube you wouldn't be able hear the difference, because there isn't much happening, except single stroke rolling. Haven't seen Kollias utilize much his free foot while blasting ( correct me if I'm wrong ).
Endurance: where did you measure their endurance ? Doing what, and for how long? Who won ?
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier In a 4/4 time, a bomb blast would be 8th notes on the hand during 16ths with the feet. George does this. Inferno does not, because I don't believe he is as comfortable playing the beat at fast tempos. Just like his double bass playing; Inferno doesn't play double bass for any long period of time when the tempo gets up around 240/250+. He plays in short bursts. Again, I believe he is not comfortable at that tempo.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@MetalheadJC926
I'd still say it's not about ability. I believe Inferno can do his bomb blasts and doubles properly. The level these guys are.. I wouldn't say Inferno can't keep the tempo. I do agree GK is faster, but on the other hand being more boring.
Seems like his principle in writing music is: " Lets take this part off, I can do it faster. Why do anything odd and cool while I can just blast this through @270."
Couldn't we argue about Lars Ulrich vs. Jamie Saint Merat ? Easier by far.
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier Dude you cannot honestly say you've watched the video we've been posting on and then make your last comment about George being boring. The part where he changes things up near the end of the song is a great pattern, and when do you ever hear anything like that in Death Metal? Not to mention the rest of the video, just watching him play or listening to it is not boring at all, it's actually pretty amazing. His consistency and speed and power is incredible by any measure.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier And I'm not saying Inferno isn't exciting to listen to or watch, but I don't think you can make the claim that Inferno is any more creative or exciting than George. There's a certain element to Death Metal music that requires repetition or similar types of beats. That doesn't make the music boring, it makes it what the music is supposed to be.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@MetalheadJC926
I know this song better than you can see it from the video, shit audio.
And though there are "certain elements" that makes death metal stand out, it doesn't require solos, it doesn't require blast beat and it certainly doesn't require speed.
Not mocking Nile, one of my top bands in last.fm (AOTW is great).
Following a pattern while creating music spoils everything.
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier Your arguments were halfway decent up until this, honestly man that's the silliest thing I've ever heard someone say. First of all, there aren't solos in Death Metal. Don't know where you got that. Blast beats and speed, on the other hand, are two of those "certain elements" that have defined the genre, and to say that Death Metal doesn't need them is frankly idiotic. Blast beats used to be nothing but noise, that's how they started out. Then Pete Sandoval came along.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@MetalheadJC926
Yes I am more than aware with the history of blasting and metal. For example, take a car. Some cars don't move with petrol/diesel, or only have three wheels, still to be considered a car.
You really can't name a death metal tune/band without blast beats ? Skank beat obviously doesn't count.
Or it's a matter of view, you really seem uptight about this.
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
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@MetalheadJC926
Yes I am more than aware with the history of blasting and metal. For example, take a car. Some cars don't move with petrol/diesel, or only have three wheels, still to be considered a car.
You really can't name a death metal tune/band without blast beats ? Skank beat obviously doesn't count.
Or it's a matter of view, you really seem uptight about this.
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier He was the drummer for Terrorizer at the time, and he took the blast beat and make it structured, made it fit into a time. He then became the drummer for Morbid Angel and started popularizing triggers, and from there Death Metal took off and it became the type of beat most associated with the genre. Death Metal would not be Death Metal today without Pete Sandoval and the blast beat. So again, saying it doesn't need blast beats, is just plain idiotic. I'm sorry dude.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
@MetalheadJC926 Death Metal is characterized by growl type vocals(now becoming more extreme like gutterals, and other stuff) time signature changes, time changes, and fast tempos. No where is that stating that death metal needs blast beats. hell even grind doesnt need blast beats to be grind, and it was founded on that shit. Dont get me wrong i love blast beats, but death metal can be death metal without em.
thisisformusiconly 10 months ago
@thisisformusiconly totally agree dude. Cannibal corpse is a good example of that.
monkeychunkey 9 months ago
@monkeychunkey Or atheist, i am not a big CC fan so i cant really say their an example.
thisisformusiconly 9 months ago
@MetalheadJC926
Not defending Inferno though, neither of these two drummers are the "greatest influence". My point is , if it's unclear, that comparing drummers by speed or how they prefer their blast beats. Mike Portnoy is a novice compared to these guys, though, ha :)
Kriegsphilosphier 11 months ago
@Kriegsphilosphier I have never claimed to be a pro, I'm simply a fan of both bands who has studied and listened closely to both drummers. On the topic of endurance, it's silly to say there's no need for more endurance - that's one of the most important measures of a good Death Metal drummer. So is speed, and so is musicality and creativity. And people continue to argue with me on this but I still remain saying, given their playing differences, George is overall a better drummer than Inferno.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
And I have defended that logically from just about any angle and can continue to do so, because it's true. Does that mean I don't like Behemoth? No, of course not. And I see you have an obvious bias, simply from your username. And your last point. Of course there are drummers out there who have skills George doesn't - it's stupid to even bring that up as a put down to George, it's not. But for being so focused on the genre of Extreme Metal, he's a damn balanced drummer.
MetalheadJC926 11 months ago
george has all the skill and drum equipment he wil ever need. now he just needs a drumcam that can keep up with him.
xthatfatguyx 2 years ago 3
15-16 seconds. that fill is awesome.
DrumBum561 2 years ago 7
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jayakishore1234 2 years ago 2
God, he looks fucking bored!.
Aheadstix85 2 years ago
Hmm ok i appologise, i probs didnt read it right, i to am influenced by his playing i have been playing drums since i was 5 and studied jazz for 5 of em, but that does nothing for your feet so i was blown away by his "swivel" technique, Friends?.
Aheadstix85 2 years ago
No worries! Its easy to misread something by glancing over it and I just dont like being called a poser thats listens to that shit!! thats sick though, jazz really gives you that other dimension.Something I want to try and fit into my playing a little more. But sometimes I spread myself to thin in one practice session so I just focus on something I want to learn, and his two stroke a side swivel is the shit!!! anyways all hail Nile! the new album is amazing
Joeskateapool 2 years ago
george has changed death metal drumming for the next 30 years!!!.
Aheadstix85 2 years ago
way more than that dude!!
Sk8erfv523 2 years ago
You're faster with one foot then I'm with two.
renshammar 2 years ago 7
its the same with his hands. haha
monkeychunkey 2 years ago 2
@renshammar you suck then
infiniteobscure 1 year ago
@infiniteobscure :<<
renshammar 1 year ago
porcodeo kollias è un mostro !
EdoCFH 2 years ago
So awsome I need to find a drummer who worships you George lol .
xaviermockingbird 2 years ago 5
etsi mori elladara!!!!!!!
replay91100 2 years ago 2
George just looks like he's pushing out a big one when he's doing the speed-cruising on the feet. LOL
SPOT ON speed.
viperabs 2 years ago 5
Dude I cant wait to see Nile live in charlotte! Going to be awesome!
21sabiandrummer67 2 years ago 3
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BarbariansRage 1 year ago
haha yea i know that
Mereaper666 2 years ago
NILE IS THE SHIT
Joeskateapool 2 years ago
Pffft!, go listen to my chemical gay-mance, you poser piece of shit!, Nile are fuckin awsome!!!, George is the greatest!!!, a machine!!!
Aheadstix85 2 years ago
Are you kidding man? Im surely no poser and I have an immense amount of respect for Nile.You probably misread my comment as I was saying"Nile is THE shit." in modern slang that means they are fucking amazing,atleast when I say it thats what it means. so fuck off man Ive been a fan of nile for amny years and george is a huge influence to me
Joeskateapool 2 years ago
such as??
Mereaper666 2 years ago
jeez this guy is way too busy! lol
TheUndert0ker 2 years ago
George has earned a place on the right of Zeus, as the God of Metal drumming :) He probably needs the physical abilities of an athlete to play like this for an entire concert, only with different muscles used and perfected.
Andris1024 2 years ago 3
yea i guess they do get abit repetitive after about 3-4 songs into ithyphallic, but what can you do XD
Mereaper666 2 years ago
nile still rocks dude
infiniteobscure 2 years ago
The multi-pedal part (after "THOU SHALT BURN" and those awesome fills) in this song is played so insanely fast its kinda funny! Great song though.
AlexLancia 2 years ago
yea thats true, i never said it was a bad thing, georges presion and accuracy with the toms, snare and double bass, is unrivaled \,,/
Mereaper666 2 years ago
is it just me or do most of the songs he does always start with drum rolls, not that thts a bad thing but it kind of gets boring :/
Mereaper666 2 years ago
Every drummer has ones signature, haha :p
Grimskygge 2 years ago
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Honestly.. this band sucks.. i hate them SO MUCH but.. george is a fucking LEGEND..so i listen to them anyway.. just to hear him lol..
drumboarder1 2 years ago
no, there are also many songs that have just guitars in the beginning, or there are very often huge, epic intros in the nile songs.
derossi13 2 years ago
it looks like hes using black cymbals on the right side of his kit but its but hes not
jfc232 2 years ago
THATS FUUUCKED! My head just exploded!
TMaStAA 2 years ago
fucking kollias is a monster! blasts with one foot, when i saw him blast with one foot i decided to learn it also...its the only way to do it :D
MetallicOpeth 2 years ago
my mind just fucking exploded
TimeForAPsycoHoliday 2 years ago
eyes closed, as if he is not aware of the brutality he's creating....
ForTheRestOfTime 2 years ago 3
at 2:14 that beat along with the guitars is REALLY groovy.
mrkibbles369 2 years ago
HAHAHA at 0:07 some guy goes FUCK YEAH! xD
haha
xo.
drew3usa 2 years ago 4
Haha, that's awesome
Watching this video, I hope that yelling guy was rocking out to this, his favourite Nile song or something
iamqqqqqqq 2 years ago 2
amazing! such skill, strength, speed.
its so funny at the end when they stop playing the song then he hits the floor tom as if in defiance.
MrJedMilton 2 years ago