StarCraft 2 - Sen [Z] vs WhiteRa [P] Game #1 - Commentary

[141Wingman]

ok what happened to his voice...

[jedenzemenemsow]

"so if u like sen.." No! we don't like Sen, cause Sen's a jerk, that's was day9 says and the way it is :D

[PhazonOmega]

Shouldn't he have attacked the pylon immeidately?

[MrHankkey93]

lame game imo

[murderfacerawr]

in conjunction with

[samnelso]

OMG take out the pylon!

[cindyamxy792]

Good game by WhiteRa. People complain about cannon rushes, they want a heavy macro and strategic game but don't forget that there is also the tactical game. WhiteRa saw a weakness on the opening build of the opponent and he found the best way to exploit the weakness by using cannon rush.

[TheEthug]

@cindyamxy792 Lets see if you still think that after the 5th game when he cannon rushes every match.

[SasukeNathan]

are you putting on a accent kinda like how house dose it. like your british but making an american accent. i ask this because you say cheers alot.

[TheEthug]

Whitera, is the cheapest cheesiest protoss player there is, he is always looking to exploit the games imbalances, but this is just because he knows he dosnt have the game skills to beat skilled macro players w/o being a faggot.

[frozenimran]

@TheEthug lol it seems u had a few bad experiences with cannon rushs, knowing how to counter your opponent is what SC2 is all about y dont u go back to world of warcraft if u cant stand losing? Its the zerg players fault for quick expanding and not scouting

WHitera is arguably the best european player, so of course i can see y so many ppl r haters

[xComplication]

Watch Catz vs WhiteRa; WhiteRa sees Catz fast expand, so WhiteRa expands into his natural expansion + cannon rush with a proxy gateway. Catz responds with a hidden hatchery in WhiteRa's main base and spawns roaches to take out the main mineral line and harass the natural expansion's mining line. WhiteRa has no choice but to gg.

[TheEthug]

@xComplication who casted/posted that game

[xComplication]

@TheEthug Search for "SHOUTcraft: Match 2 - Whitera (P) vs Catz (Z) - SCReddit Invitational"; TotalHalibut/TotalBiscuit did the cast.

[ralusek]

in "conjunction" was the phrase you were looking for. :D

force = "in corporation."

and "in coupled."

<3

[kakashi710]

very nice whitera awsome cannon rush lol

[TheEthug]

@kakashi710 how can u describe a cannon rush as awesome, what is that awesome part in there, was it when he built the forge? or was it when he put the pylon down out the front of his base, simply amazing stuff there.... fucken cheesers

[thepro101]

@ MinGophers I agree the probe is the most evil worker ever

[zhu8287]

Short, but hey, I like the cast.  keep it up

[MinGophers]

I absolutely hate cannons. This strat in general is sooo irritating

[a931326]

Sen, you can do it!!

[BGDaemon]

Force, every commentary you make is half a strategy... your explanations are priceless :)

[crazyskiier0023]

some people use way too many comas in there comments on youtube

[Tradegyxz]

@crazyskiier0023 What, do, you, mean,.?

[crazyskiier0023]

@Tradegyxz LOL

[brennanww]

cannons are crazy early game, just obliterate everything haha

[wimmadabimma]

who calls gg after that shit?

[xCHRISxTOTHx]

CAST TLO! :)

[hockeybrat95]

every game i played protoss, i got cannon rushed today.what was up with all the cheeses today lol

[kosard212]

keep up the good work force!

[Alxphat]

i took my eyes off for a few secs, then realized the game was over.. wtf? hahaha......

[charliem130]

All your commentaries are awesome, keep em coming!

[cocacolafresh]

why would you say gg with a game like that.

[UberGusMage]

@cocacolafresh his opponent saw an opening and exploited it, it actually was a great game if you ask me. Zerg player should have canceled the hatch, got a queen and went 1-base with mass lings to push the 'toss away.

[Criddian]

lol porn'd

[LaPietra88]

Cheap way to win. I understand its a strat but still theres no honor in this win..

[AwsmPntsAlchmst]

@LaPietra88 youre not a freakin samurai, you dont get honor in anything

[LaPietra88]

@AwsmPntsAlchmst Honor Amongst Men. i play every game like a man and lose or win i would never play like a women :)

[ozme8053]

@LaPietra88 He didn't have to continue on with his expo, either. Horrible reaction by Sen and great decision-making by WhiteRa. If you were playing for thousands of dollars, you'd do just about anything in an SC2 game to win too.

[PownagePlay]

lol WhiteRa.., I don't know why people are so mad. All the Zerg player had to do was cancel the hatchery, and go 1 base play seeing that WhiteRa didn't even have his cybernetics core up, you could have easy have done 1 base roach play and chop away the canons with spine crawlers.

[AZn199]

This ''cheese'' was actually extremely well executed.

imo, Sen, could've just cancelled. He risked defending his hatch and it costed him the game.

[pudicus2]

awsome game imo.

[pardingo]

Fuck you whiteRa. Thats some bronze level play you hack.

[phili666]

@pardingo

he saw that sen was being eco greedy and took advantage of that. It's called playing on the fly and fast thinking.

[LaNDoNx18]

the word you were looking for at the beginning was "in conjuction"

[mrsmodest]

Hahaha, I love your weather commentary, Force.

[jchase1970]

Wow, whitera cannon rushed?

[phili666]

@jchase1970

no, this is not a cannon rush

[MutatedGamer]

Some 2v2's pleaseee :(

[TAzDK]

interesting game! 

[voodoo157]

Day9 casted this game, it was a game in the ROOT Gaming warzone.

[MrJuniorPowers]

Nerf cannons, they're defense tools, i think they should patch them to where they can only be in a small radius around their nexus this would prevent most cheesing i know its "harrassement" but harrassement doesn't win a game that was ridiculous.

[PenCrisis]

@MrJuniorPowers

Cheese is part of the game. Suck it up, dude. Everyone cheeses sometimes, even the pros. It's just another build to put in your arsenal. Even macro king idra has 6 pooled.

[Sneezlebob]

@MrJuniorPowers So patch them so they're useless in defending your ramp, or outside areas where drops are coming?

[SeeJay710]

@MrJuniorPowers Harassment doesnt win games? So lets just say mutalisks catch your army in a bad position and is able to kill 90% of your harvesters. Hmmm. Ya i guess you can say harrassment won that game. Then if you say that about cannons then you should say the same about spine crawlers and bunkers.

[00calvera]

should have taken the pylon.

[yotamking151]

what about huk? i havent seen anything from him in a long time

[DanteEvar]

@yotamking151 who;s huk ? idra ftw

[f0Xy251]

@yotamking151 or TLO :(

[LaPietra88]

@yotamking151 ive seen a couple from Husky but i want to see more Idra :D

[ColeTrainMcCane]

As suggested by "zbindenz" in the other video, how about some first person commentaries of your own games, with explanations of your logic and thought process as the game progresses. It think that an application and first-person execution of the strategies would be extremely helpful.

Great videos man, keep them coming and I hope the Youtube income picks up some you can go full time :P

[darkxmasterfool]

thumbs up if you're viewer #123 x]

[DestroManiak]

@darkxmasterfool

fail...

counter is strong with this one

(meaning the view counter works so far)

[CoxWrestling]

This proves that you need to be prepared for every situation.

[ColeTrainMcCane]

It wasn't cheese, just some good ole' "Early Aggression"

[maxdekroon]

what a terrible game. Hope you post more, Force, I dont blame you, you couldnt know

[ForceSC2strategy]

@maxdekroon

I've casted all four games in the series. They will take some time but all will beuploaded before the end of the day.

Although this ended fast, the other games in the series are a bit longer.

Cheers.

[DevilsPortuguese]

@ForceSC2strategy what the zerg player can do if the opponent do this?..its just a basic tactic that requires no skill at all and it is so powerful.

[JustAnotherMetalhead]

@DevilsPortuguese like building mass marines and medivacs...or just 8 pool or 6 pool rush, so every race has this possibilitis

[andrewzmorris]

@DevilsPortuguese cancel the hatch, kill the pylon/cannons. You have set them back many hundreds of minerals for not much damage at all and you're in a great position to retake your expansion

[maxdekroon]

@ForceSC2strategy Yeah I know I cant complain Im just gold myself. As i play Zerg, it really annoys me if a Protoss opponent cannon rushes... thats just me :D keep up the good work!

[evincarbane]

@maxdekroon

?

[paulcollumbine]

@maxdekroon how was it terrible?

[maxdekroon]

@paulcollumbine not interesting and another cannon rush?

[jtlysaght]

@maxdekroon Force is casting the whole series for us. I would have a few questions if he only did a cast for only *some* games of a series.

There will always better games in a series than others.

[maxdekroon]

@jtlysaght what are you exactly trying to say? I knew he would do that. It is not like I realised it afterwards. I just felt that this initial game was not very interesting and Force did make the best of it.

[jtlysaght]

@maxdekroon Relax, I'm not attacking you. (It can be difficult to convey tone in type, especially when so many people watonly abuse others.) It just sounded like you were disappointed he bothered with casting this match when you said "I don't blame you force, you couldn't know."

[maxdekroon]

@jtlysaght Exactly! I am Dutch so I do not have the vocabulary to make myself understandable like that, but your first sentance is marvelous :D Besides it also refers to what I said. I was disappointed, true, but not in Force because he would have no idea when choosing this game, I was just disappointed in the decision from WhiteRa, although I still think hes one of the best! ( my keyboard doesnt have an apostrofe :P)

[therustygeartube]

I used to be able to watch all these games at 1080p but now for some reason I'm just not able to. Any adivce?

[dukeofcanada]

Thanks mate, love your videos!

[Bawlsackable]

lol cannon rush ftw

[slcslobalt]

sad to see such a high level player bull some bs cheese like that

[beckylegolas1]

@slcslobalt

it would be boring to see half hour long macro games every game lol. and its not sad, they decide how they play the game not u.

[phili666]

@slcslobalt

cheese is when you go all in. whitera clearly didn't go all in there

[FuzzyBabies]

Why do these players play on different accounts?

[L337Zealot]

@FuzzyBabies They have smurf accounts, pros usually have a few accounts so that people don't like message them or know that it's them and freak out. Maybe this is sen's north american account or european account or something too. but it's not a smurf it people know it lol

[zillon85]

yey another veido

[sinkamaru]

hello force

[26adrian26]

more commentarys :)

[Adamjw3063]

Hello