What I want to know why no one is hiring me for a job?How can I support my family,if I made less than $10 an hour on my previous job in which I worked for about a week until I got laid off.How come everybody around me is striving and I am barely surviving?I have logic and a full time student in college.
2:08 and 2:35 show how much Bill Gates is behind on the tech...iPad has plenty of input options from on screen keyboard to scribble and note applications (some 3rd party), granted the jotting/scribbling applications could use some work and stylus support (yea that's a major change requiring major hardware update). But seriously. The on-screen keyboard alone for the ipad has been good enough to warrant practical use. If you *prefer* a legal pad and pen, well that's personal preference...
I love Microsoft. I thank them every day for Windows 7 and Xbox360. And I will thank them with my wallet yet again when Windows 8 arrives. I also love APPLE. At home when I am feeling lazy and don't feel like sitting at my pc my Ipad2 does very well as a replacement.
I think Bill is wrong about the Ipad.......Companies use it for meetings all the time. My company included. Sorry Bill Apple wins out in the tablet department.
I think he makes a valid point about the iPad not having enough input, and not being something you would take to a meeting. But for leisure purposes, and some semi-professional purposes, it is the best thing ever.
competition is a great thing, it induces inovation, without Microsoft Apple may have no room to innovate and compete and without Apple Microsoft would turn the entire world into multicoloured boxes...
Macs aren't toys i'll give you that, but despite the claims of the apple fan boys, they are not the choice of industry, and the claim that they are superior for audio/video is a myth. The rest of their products are pretty much toys yes.
@kusalaviro Yeah Macs are the way to go in AV, although god damn I wish apple realised how loyal the creative industrys are and respect that. Final cut pro X was a mess, and I gotta admit despite being a very loyal apple fanboy, my patience was very very tested by that fucking thing.
Someone recently said to me that Jobs changed the world. That's simply not true unless you have a very narrow definition of 'world'. He created a 'cult following' for sure, but only by appealing to a certain consumer personality type. Capitalising on such people made Apple lots of money, but none of his products improve the way businesses work. They make Apple richer, create jobs in China (sounds nice), and improve some people's leisure activities. The world? Nah.
@kusalaviro Show me where Bill states that. PS: Steve didn't do shit. Jonathan Ive was the one behind the design of all Apple devices... and of course, technology was already there for the rest...
@reynaldo05 1. Search yourself. you'll find it. 2. Steve outsourced all the talent but he was the binding and driving force. Apple was about to go bankrupt before he came back. To deny his influence and achievements is to be either misinformed or ignorant.
@kusalaviro Steve was just a marketer, a businessman. Microsoft programmed software for the early Apple PCs even before Microsoft had anything to do with operating systems. When Apple was broke in 1997, Microsoft invested $170.000.000 in Apple to help them. In return... you see all the hatred and deceptive ads towards Microsoft...
@reynaldo05 You used 'just' in the context of 'merely', trying to diminish or undervalue his contribution. As I said, take out the word 'just' and we're in agreement.
@AcReedZero Have you ever heard of the Mitsubishi HP Pedion released in 1997 or the Sony X505 released in 2003??? Both of the devices were slimmer than the first generation MacBookAir that got released in 2003. And the MacBook Air´s design was a copy of the Sony X505 (2003) and the MacBookPro´s design was copied from the Mitsubishi HP Pedion.
In spite of his billions, he seems so poor in terms of the legacy of products! MS has been a horrible copycat and wannabe in everything they have produced and shipped to date....
@JustOMT111 What the hell are you talking about. Apple copied every single device they ever made and Micosoft is one of the biggest shareholder of Apple.
It's Apply who introduced GUI to us, then it is Windows who let everyone know how to use computer without inputting codes. Thanks to Gates and Jobs, the two most geniuses of our time.
@frogdu Actually Xerox introduced a much earlier mouse-operating GUI OS in 1973 from which one could say both MS and Apple borrowed ideas a decade later. It's also worth noting the other major players at the time from the Amiga Workbench to GEOS to GEM. Apple and MS just ended up being the companies that ended up rising to the top, but it's not fair to say that Apple originated a lot of these ideas. One can find them in various GUI OSes at the time.
@andrejvgo Very true, but I'm responding to people claiming that MS stole a lot of GUI ideas from Apple. Even with the start menu and the dock, we have to remember systems like AOS, NeXTSTEP, OS2, AmiDock. Not sure why Apple fans insist that MS stole these ideas and that Apple innovated them. Both generally didn't innovate these ideas. If it's a race then Apple tends to be a bit faster in adopting and adapting them, but neither Apple nor MS originated most of these key innovations.
@stinky472 xerox was the first, Jobs made a deal with them to be able to use whatever he wanted from them in exchange for early apple stock options. He then showed the GUI concept to Gates so he could get started on programs for it. A year later windows came out with a GUI. Funny how you mention NExt when that was one of Job's companies after he got fired from apple. The original mac was the fist GUI done right and Microsoft did steal a lot of ideas from it.
@1messiahcomplex If we're trying to decide who *originated* ideas, then neither Apple nor Windows can take credit for a lot of the things that Apple users claim MS stole from *Apple*, and one might even reverse the situation and say that Apple stole the original scroll wheel idea (scroll wheel mice being invented at MS, e.g.). Most of all I think it's pointless who originated these ideas. It's like getting hung up on the fact that Nintendo reverse engineered Atari instead of...
@1messiahcomplex As for NeXT, it's worth noting that Apple even sued NeXT shortly after Jobs founded it. The two companies are separate; if we're saying Jobs founded the company which innovated a lot of ideas only to then rejoin Apple and incorporate those same ideas from Sun's OPENSTEP into OSX, then it'd be a little more accurate. But then what about operating systems like Amiga Workbench? If we're talking about innovation and 'stealing', then everyone was 'stealing'.
@1messiahcomplex There's not really that much different from a business ethics point of view between Microsoft, Commodore, Apple -- all the big name companies of the time, except that Apple seems to have an unusual habit of being a patent bully and suing company after company in legal turf wars which is probably what prompts Apple fans to take such a strong Apple vs. the world mindset.
@1messiahcomplex Back to Xerox, they themselves sued Apple, not MS, for IP theft: the fact that Apple licensed certain parts of Xerox's GUI elements notwithstanding, so we're in very murky waters when we talk about these things from a legal point of view. But I don't think the legal matters are important to those who so staunchly defend Apple. The impression to me is that the ill-conceived notion that all these ideas originated at Apple somehow makes Apple better at innovation.
@jerryg50 well as I said, its just personal preference. None are better systems, apple is not better than microsoft, and microsoft is not better than apple, its not fact, its opinion
@VaGirando I guess he ment devices like the Microsoft Courier [first report about it was in 2008 thats also before the iPad (2010)] . Sadly it wasnt released.
@eateroftheflame hey everyone uses the one that he feels comfortable with , I wasn't comfortable with microsoft products I am more than better with my MacBook
@ghaiththebest No apple is not better than microsoft, its just your opinion. I agree with it, but its unfair to say it like that, its all about personal preference
@DazNoobs Is not preference. Apple was born after but without Macintosh there's no Microsoft. Everyone knows that. And thw quality of apple devices and macs in outstanding. Microsoft is famous and more popular because it is cheap but crappy :)
Im a fan of Apple (because of their design, and the smoothness of the old iPod Nanos), but I think Bill Gates is the MAN, Jobs is a bit obnoxious for me.
Very good point from Bill. He thinks about the iPad not to be a wokring Unit and that is right. Data input and data output that is how the work is done.
Gates and Jobs are among the great geniuses of our time. They changed how the world does business, and how our educational system works. Behind the scenes most of these companies work together. They make deals to buy and sell patent rights and technology among each other. This type of way of working is what helps to advance progress.
More like masters of screwing up people. They made antitrust jump more than once. But it's true that Gates was pretty good at programming 30 years ago and that Jobs was a good businessman. Neither is a genius though.
I agree with you in the way of the antitrust problems and monopoly of the markets. But, they are geniuses to accomplish what they did. It takes a very special type of person to accomplish such vast wealth, and to be able to make such a proprietary system that all the world has be on it and pay for it.
I have been using MS operating systems and Windows at the professional level for many years. It has its bugs, but it sure gets the job done at a very professional level.
From what I learned in marketing studies, competition is good. It allows to enforce competent advancement between the different products. It offers choice in the market place. From what I learned, there is room for everyone who has a good product.
With operating systems, I tell people if they don't like Apple or MS, there is always Linux. Linux has greatly improved over the last few years. With MS and Apple, there is more direct support...
Imagine a world where every second of your day is recorded,textualized,and remembered. Imagine a device that is in tune with your personal thoughts and character. A device that gives you ideas of exploration based on your mood and optical tendencies. Sci Fi talks about it...People are working on it. Get ready world. It's gonna get interesting.
oh gates how wrong were u to under rate the iPad .... Input???? really? iPad is all about input!!!! anyways Apple rules!!!!! windows sucks!!!!!! lol just kidding! they're both great i have a mac and a pc.... love them both. although apple products tend to look hotter.....
no he is saying its too damn much to pay for a mac when you can buy a pc for less. NOt everyone can afford a damn mac lol I wish I could cause it is a great puter dont get me wrong.
@Irockman1 Many people (myself included) believe note-taking is easier and more fluid hand-written. I'm a very fast typer, but I have an inexplicable bias towards the pen and paper. It's why many people still write journals and note entries by hand.
@Irockman1 because not all note taking is text. There's drawing, doodles, diagrams, highlighting, or not horizontal lines of text, and a lot of people like to take notes in a creative way
@cb7pwn whoa dud calm down, first i want to say... no you dont... i have seen 5 year old use them just fine.... second i want to say i have seen grown men get lost on them as well. .. on the other hand i have seen a computer technician get lost on a mac.... so calm your shit.
Allow the ipad to use flash, throw in a couple USB ports for things like external HDD/disc drives etc and switch the os from ios to lion and I think we'd see the death of both the desktop AND laptop within a few years. Seriously...that's how close we are.
@Nintariz That's totally dumb...So you think you can do visualizations on an iPad? Flash would destroy the performance of the browser etc. already said...
@RW00632 i can tell you why, honestly, because I have a pc and mac. A mac, without a doubt for me, is much better at everyday use, everything just works better and smoother, watching videos, going online, ect.. but pcs are the best for gaming
@DazNoobs If you compare two machines with the exact specifications running iOS and windows side by side, it will both offer the same experience, except in the end, windows will have much more functionality. I don't get why people think Apple computers are smoother, it doesn't make sense to me.
@DazNoobs When I bought the MacBook it was top of the line, as was my PC. Obviously yours is better NOW, which comes at no surprise. I don't see how luck plays into this though, it just looks like you blindly defending the Mac.
@NoobsAreUsh actaully, its much more like your blindly defending pc's. My starting point was that their equal, yet you cannot accept that because you blindly follow microsoft, where I find the 2 companies equal so I can make a fair judgement
@DazNoobs Quoting you: "A mac ... is much better at everyday use, everything just works better and smoother." Later you say: "My starting point was that their equal." There seems to be some inconsistency in your statement. Nowhere do you explicitly say that they are equal. So which is it?
@DazNoobs "must be the older macbook pro" - assumes the Mac is equal to the PC because it is older
"you probably got unlucky" - luck is not exactly a factor when it comes to a computer's performance
I was the one who said that "If you compare two machines with the exact specifications running iOS and windows side by side, it will both offer the SAME EXPERIENCE"
@NoobsAreUsh you said 'in the end windows will have more function' and your first comment was 'apple sucks and is overpriced'. That whole first comment summed up that ur a pc fanboy, I am not a fanboy, I was just using my pc for a few hours before I decided to settle down on my mac
@DazNoobs I was referring to your post about user experience. You said the Mac was smoother in every day use, and I am telling you that is wrong. You can't exactly deny that the PC has more functionality than Macs though, can you? It's not exactly an opinion I'm giving here.
@NoobsAreUsh hold on, so you are saying its fact, not opinion, that pcs are better then macs! wow, I knew you were a fanboy, but that goes a bit far don't you think, even for your standards
@DazNoobs I never said the PC was better than a Mac you delusional idiot, I said the PC has more functionality than Macs. Unless you can prove me wrong, which you can't by the way, as this is not my opinion, I don't see why you're calling me a fanboy. Why are you straying off topic anyways? Stick to the topic at hand, user experience, if you even have any more points to make.
@NoobsAreUsh yeh but then I could just say its my opinion that macs are better then pc's, and besides, even if your point about pcs having more functions then mac were true (which its not, and remember, u can't argue with that, its my opinion) then thats still untrue, because you would be saying windows has more functions then OSX, as you can bootcamp it. Ur obsessive arguing is just digging u into a deeper pit, fanboy
@DazNoobs You do realize that by saying that you saying what he is saying is not true, when he is not saying an opinion he is stating a fact, he can argue with it. And don't call someone a fanboy when really, you're acting more of a fanboy than the other guy. You're both fanboys anyway. Now I wish you a good day, and if you managed to read this far into the comment, please don't reply to it, because I will not be reading anything of which you reply to me.
@luigihijklmn yeh, this guys right, lets stop arguing, we both have our own opinions and thats fine :), I don't think I'm a fanboy, you don't think u are, i think they are equal, you personally prefer windows, who really cares tbh, we both have our opinions so lets just end it
@DazNoobs dude reading the converstation... you were getting owned... he is showing little fanboyisms. and you are showing a few as well. but he stated a lot of facts where you stated a lot of guesses and opinions.
@GRAWman aha, so we have a shit stirer do we. Your so bored that instead of just letting it settle and letting people have these things called opinions, look it up, you get bored easily and want to try to start another argument. I'm guessing your a pc fanboy then, either that or your a massive twat, or both. Yeh, probably both.
I found the Mac to be a very closed system. Options are very proprietary, and far more expensive. As for functionality and available support , I found the Win system to be far better.
When comparing systems, make sure the computers are identical in hardware specifications, and all the devices connected are of the exact same specs.
I've worked on both systems, and my preference is Windows any time!
@GrayRazor Newton, Leibniz, Edison, and Tesla were scientific and mathematical geniuses. Gates and Jobs are business moguls/monopolists. Not a fair comparison. ;-)
I view Apple vs Microsoft like viewing 2 nice cars. Theres no need to bag on them, why cant you appreciate them for both being really nice cars and they are suited for different people with different lyfesyles
@ProgHead93 I've always been saying that. It's the competition that helped the companies push forward. It kind of worries me what will happen with Steve Jobs gone. Either Apple will continue to be a tight competition or maybe it's time for some new companies to enter.
no input - apart from the keyboard , the microphone and the dock adaptor that let's you add even more stuff
bill - you're a fucking idiot
flappospammo 1 day ago
SHUTUP.... he invited computer to us
YousefALBuraq 3 days ago
holy awkward moment batman
djangoguru 4 days ago
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What I want to know why no one is hiring me for a job?How can I support my family,if I made less than $10 an hour on my previous job in which I worked for about a week until I got laid off.How come everybody around me is striving and I am barely surviving?I have logic and a full time student in college.
GoodAlwaysDieYoung 6 days ago
2:08 and 2:35 show how much Bill Gates is behind on the tech...iPad has plenty of input options from on screen keyboard to scribble and note applications (some 3rd party), granted the jotting/scribbling applications could use some work and stylus support (yea that's a major change requiring major hardware update). But seriously. The on-screen keyboard alone for the ipad has been good enough to warrant practical use. If you *prefer* a legal pad and pen, well that's personal preference...
eleithias 1 week ago
I love Microsoft. I thank them every day for Windows 7 and Xbox360. And I will thank them with my wallet yet again when Windows 8 arrives. I also love APPLE. At home when I am feeling lazy and don't feel like sitting at my pc my Ipad2 does very well as a replacement.
I think Bill is wrong about the Ipad.......Companies use it for meetings all the time. My company included. Sorry Bill Apple wins out in the tablet department.
lamiac2411 2 weeks ago 8
@lamiac2411 i dont wanna sound angry at you but windows is only good for gaming and most people have a gaming console windows is garbage
whatthefudge2009 3 days ago
man got no clue wtf he sayin.
capadom 2 weeks ago
@capadom
He knows what he is saying it have never been apple vs windows and that`s how it always been.
lokalkakan 2 weeks ago
I think he makes a valid point about the iPad not having enough input, and not being something you would take to a meeting. But for leisure purposes, and some semi-professional purposes, it is the best thing ever.
1844Freddy 3 weeks ago
competition is a great thing, it induces inovation, without Microsoft Apple may have no room to innovate and compete and without Apple Microsoft would turn the entire world into multicoloured boxes...
CJEmusic 3 weeks ago
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"We have different strengths , but, we both love the industry"
Well Said Bill.. All you Apple Fans and MS fans need to get used to the idea.
Rhythmattica 3 weeks ago
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Rhythmattica 3 weeks ago
Just admit it Gates, microsoft sux and Apple rocks!
kusalaviro 3 weeks ago
@kusalaviro
If you value toys maybe ;)
MoronAntidote 2 weeks ago
@MoronAntidote Toys? So Apple products have no business or other application? They're just toys for kids?
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro
Macs aren't toys i'll give you that, but despite the claims of the apple fan boys, they are not the choice of industry, and the claim that they are superior for audio/video is a myth. The rest of their products are pretty much toys yes.
MoronAntidote 2 weeks ago
@MoronAntidote They ARE they choice in any creative industry, especially audio/video. Windows is fine for any other boring monotonous task.
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro Yeah Macs are the way to go in AV, although god damn I wish apple realised how loyal the creative industrys are and respect that. Final cut pro X was a mess, and I gotta admit despite being a very loyal apple fanboy, my patience was very very tested by that fucking thing.
MrShayneOneill 2 weeks ago
@MoronAntidote You'll find windows serves you well for downloading all your gay porn.
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro ipods and iphones are cool. but mac's are only for people who download gay child porn on a regular basis.
Soundgarden8497 2 weeks ago
@Soundgarden8497 And Windows is only for people who download shit fetish videos while fisting a dead dog in the ass.
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro do you have a problem with people who enjoy those activities?
Soundgarden8497 2 weeks ago
@Soundgarden8497 No, providing they keep it on a windows platform...
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro fairy nuff
Soundgarden8497 2 weeks ago
@Soundgarden8497 hairy fluff
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro lairy muff
Soundgarden8497 2 weeks ago
@Soundgarden8497 Is there a certain model you would recommend for this particular task??
lamiac2411 3 days ago
@lamiac2411 for what? downloading extreme videos? there's a new product coming out called the iJobs... the necrophilia edition
Soundgarden8497 3 days ago
@kusalaviro
Someone recently said to me that Jobs changed the world. That's simply not true unless you have a very narrow definition of 'world'. He created a 'cult following' for sure, but only by appealing to a certain consumer personality type. Capitalising on such people made Apple lots of money, but none of his products improve the way businesses work. They make Apple richer, create jobs in China (sounds nice), and improve some people's leisure activities. The world? Nah.
MoronAntidote 2 weeks ago
@MoronAntidote The computer world is vastly different now because of Jobs. Even Gates said so. So neeeerrrr....
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro Show me where Bill states that. PS: Steve didn't do shit. Jonathan Ive was the one behind the design of all Apple devices... and of course, technology was already there for the rest...
reynaldo05 2 weeks ago
@reynaldo05 1. Search yourself. you'll find it. 2. Steve outsourced all the talent but he was the binding and driving force. Apple was about to go bankrupt before he came back. To deny his influence and achievements is to be either misinformed or ignorant.
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro Steve was just a marketer, a businessman. Microsoft programmed software for the early Apple PCs even before Microsoft had anything to do with operating systems. When Apple was broke in 1997, Microsoft invested $170.000.000 in Apple to help them. In return... you see all the hatred and deceptive ads towards Microsoft...
reynaldo05 2 weeks ago
@reynaldo05 Take the 'just' out of your first sentence, disregard the irrelevant second sentence and we're in agreement. Fantastic...
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
@kusalaviro Just = exactly - only - merely - simply - precisely... that's what he was... JUST that... a marketer and businessman...
reynaldo05 2 weeks ago
@reynaldo05 You used 'just' in the context of 'merely', trying to diminish or undervalue his contribution. As I said, take out the word 'just' and we're in agreement.
kusalaviro 2 weeks ago
trapko
evolutionsintv 3 weeks ago
:P
evolutionsintv 3 weeks ago
this video is 2 years old and i still havnt seen a windows tablet with a pen, voice
and its funny he says that people wanne have everything smaller so they can bring it to work.
but i think that apple already made one macbook air :) and almost 1 year later windows started doing the same :)
AcReedZero 3 weeks ago
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@AcReedZero Have you ever heard of the Mitsubishi HP Pedion released in 1997 or the Sony X505 released in 2003??? Both of the devices were slimmer than the first generation MacBookAir that got released in 2003. And the MacBook Air´s design was a copy of the Sony X505 (2003) and the MacBookPro´s design was copied from the Mitsubishi HP Pedion.
DerSchachspieler 2 weeks ago
@AcReedZero samsung slate tablet and asus slate tablet are both out
outlines2 2 weeks ago
In spite of his billions, he seems so poor in terms of the legacy of products! MS has been a horrible copycat and wannabe in everything they have produced and shipped to date....
JustOMT111 3 weeks ago
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@JustOMT111 What the hell are you talking about. Apple copied every single device they ever made and Micosoft is one of the biggest shareholder of Apple.
DerSchachspieler 2 weeks ago
2:44 Pen? Yuck
Voice? We got Siri my friend.
duxluver 3 weeks ago
It's Apply who introduced GUI to us, then it is Windows who let everyone know how to use computer without inputting codes. Thanks to Gates and Jobs, the two most geniuses of our time.
frogdu 4 weeks ago
@frogdu Actually Xerox introduced a much earlier mouse-operating GUI OS in 1973 from which one could say both MS and Apple borrowed ideas a decade later. It's also worth noting the other major players at the time from the Amiga Workbench to GEOS to GEM. Apple and MS just ended up being the companies that ended up rising to the top, but it's not fair to say that Apple originated a lot of these ideas. One can find them in various GUI OSes at the time.
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andrejvgo 1 week ago
@andrejvgo Very true, but I'm responding to people claiming that MS stole a lot of GUI ideas from Apple. Even with the start menu and the dock, we have to remember systems like AOS, NeXTSTEP, OS2, AmiDock. Not sure why Apple fans insist that MS stole these ideas and that Apple innovated them. Both generally didn't innovate these ideas. If it's a race then Apple tends to be a bit faster in adopting and adapting them, but neither Apple nor MS originated most of these key innovations.
stinky472 1 week ago
@stinky472 xerox was the first, Jobs made a deal with them to be able to use whatever he wanted from them in exchange for early apple stock options. He then showed the GUI concept to Gates so he could get started on programs for it. A year later windows came out with a GUI. Funny how you mention NExt when that was one of Job's companies after he got fired from apple. The original mac was the fist GUI done right and Microsoft did steal a lot of ideas from it.
1messiahcomplex 1 week ago
@1messiahcomplex If we're trying to decide who *originated* ideas, then neither Apple nor Windows can take credit for a lot of the things that Apple users claim MS stole from *Apple*, and one might even reverse the situation and say that Apple stole the original scroll wheel idea (scroll wheel mice being invented at MS, e.g.). Most of all I think it's pointless who originated these ideas. It's like getting hung up on the fact that Nintendo reverse engineered Atari instead of...
stinky472 1 week ago
@1messiahcomplex ... looking at and appreciating the difference between the two products.
stinky472 1 week ago
@1messiahcomplex As for NeXT, it's worth noting that Apple even sued NeXT shortly after Jobs founded it. The two companies are separate; if we're saying Jobs founded the company which innovated a lot of ideas only to then rejoin Apple and incorporate those same ideas from Sun's OPENSTEP into OSX, then it'd be a little more accurate. But then what about operating systems like Amiga Workbench? If we're talking about innovation and 'stealing', then everyone was 'stealing'.
stinky472 1 week ago
@1messiahcomplex There's not really that much different from a business ethics point of view between Microsoft, Commodore, Apple -- all the big name companies of the time, except that Apple seems to have an unusual habit of being a patent bully and suing company after company in legal turf wars which is probably what prompts Apple fans to take such a strong Apple vs. the world mindset.
stinky472 1 week ago
@1messiahcomplex Back to Xerox, they themselves sued Apple, not MS, for IP theft: the fact that Apple licensed certain parts of Xerox's GUI elements notwithstanding, so we're in very murky waters when we talk about these things from a legal point of view. But I don't think the legal matters are important to those who so staunchly defend Apple. The impression to me is that the ill-conceived notion that all these ideas originated at Apple somehow makes Apple better at innovation.
stinky472 1 week ago
@jerryg50 well as I said, its just personal preference. None are better systems, apple is not better than microsoft, and microsoft is not better than apple, its not fact, its opinion
DazNoobs 1 month ago
And where are these solutions from the lab?
VaGirando 1 month ago
@VaGirando I guess he ment devices like the Microsoft Courier [first report about it was in 2008 thats also before the iPad (2010)] . Sadly it wasnt released.
DerSchachspieler 1 week ago
What an effing idiot.
bigcaat 1 month ago
Apple is better than Microsoft
ghaiththebest 1 month ago
@ghaiththebest hahaha good one.
sk8erfreak9242 1 month ago
@sk8erfreak9242 I am serios I used apple products and microsoft apple was better
ghaiththebest 1 month ago
@ghaiththebest Other than the iPod Classic I've never used an Apple product that could outperform the Microsoft equivalent
eateroftheflame 1 month ago
@eateroftheflame hey everyone uses the one that he feels comfortable with , I wasn't comfortable with microsoft products I am more than better with my MacBook
ghaiththebest 1 month ago
@ghaiththebest No apple is not better than microsoft, its just your opinion. I agree with it, but its unfair to say it like that, its all about personal preference
DazNoobs 1 month ago
@DazNoobs Is not preference. Apple was born after but without Macintosh there's no Microsoft. Everyone knows that. And thw quality of apple devices and macs in outstanding. Microsoft is famous and more popular because it is cheap but crappy :)
Viczey 4 weeks ago
@Viczey I agree with you, I think macs are much better quality, but it is just personal preference and opinion
DazNoobs 4 weeks ago
@ghaiththebest your hilarious man
halo56822 3 days ago
I miss Billie running MS I don't like Steve Ballmer he sucks
bigal21110 1 month ago
I like Bill Gates!
dogzer 1 month ago
great answers. Bill!
tiennguyenvantt 1 month ago
2:40 King: "So what are you looking for, the the the perfect thing?"
Gates: "Well... yes."
sbdem1986 1 month ago
i love how he doesn't suck apple's dick like everyone these days, he still loves his company
ShitboxXx360 1 month ago
Shit Bill Gates really wants to say:
''We're gonna make a Windows Tablet and a media player like the iPod and Windows Phone''
I'm sure Stevie won't mind :P
Ograws 1 month ago
@Ograws Too bad Windows had a tablet before Apple did.
mattman1214 1 month ago
@mattman1214 which sucked
jadeishere101 1 month ago
@mattman1214 yeah but it wasn't successful
Ograws 1 month ago
@Ograws They already had an Ipod knock off, it was called the Zune
SharpFPShooter 1 month ago
@SharpFPShooter add that to the list ;)
Ograws 1 month ago
@SharpFPShooter Zune was before.
MrGuitarbike 1 month ago
freakin oligopolies
bluestreek004 1 month ago
Im a fan of Apple (because of their design, and the smoothness of the old iPod Nanos), but I think Bill Gates is the MAN, Jobs is a bit obnoxious for me.
ickerHun 1 month ago
@ickerHun you're holding it the wrong way nigga
dtfageet 1 month ago
That was unfair. The ipad is cool, and he has to admit it. Don't be a sucker, Bill!
dungeonzest 1 month ago
funny when every meeting I enter there is iPads...
MyHirogen 1 month ago
Well you CAN use a pen on the iPad (you don't need it, though..) and soon you will be able to dictate with Siri on the iPad3.
Then even Bill will have hin "perfect device"!
Mickymauserius 1 month ago
bill gates has better ideas and steve is is getting all microsoft apps on apple :)
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god..hear steve alreay make iphone versions............he really give his whole life to company....
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GameBopTV 1 month ago
Lol gates @2:44 "where I can use a pen"...who the eff wants a stylus nowadays? You lose them, and they're no fun. Your FINGER is the best tool.
jtwith 1 month ago
At least Bill is much more reasonable and unbiased than Ballmer...
mrasg1303 1 month ago 50
@mrasg1303 As well as Jobs.
mcintyrehs 1 month ago
Bill is an ass. Still better than Justin Bieber.
joekkl 1 month ago
Very good point from Bill. He thinks about the iPad not to be a wokring Unit and that is right. Data input and data output that is how the work is done.
fromYourSide 1 month ago
@fromYourSide Steve Jobs hated the stylus pen.
worldbeater1 1 month ago
@worldbeater1 Yeah, he's probably keep loosing his one. :)
Skawagon 1 month ago
He is honest about his bias. He at least said that
shane8109 1 month ago
its absolutely not the same business or insdustry
vblankk 1 month ago
"You like the iPad?"
"HELL F*CKING NO!!!"
Direx230 1 month ago
Gates and Jobs are among the great geniuses of our time. They changed how the world does business, and how our educational system works. Behind the scenes most of these companies work together. They make deals to buy and sell patent rights and technology among each other. This type of way of working is what helps to advance progress.
jerryg50 1 month ago 32
@jerryg50
More like masters of screwing up people. They made antitrust jump more than once. But it's true that Gates was pretty good at programming 30 years ago and that Jobs was a good businessman. Neither is a genius though.
ACogloc 1 month ago
I agree with you in the way of the antitrust problems and monopoly of the markets. But, they are geniuses to accomplish what they did. It takes a very special type of person to accomplish such vast wealth, and to be able to make such a proprietary system that all the world has be on it and pay for it.
I have been using MS operating systems and Windows at the professional level for many years. It has its bugs, but it sure gets the job done at a very professional level.
Jerry G.
jerryg50 1 month ago
@jerryg50 Why on the big stage, Microsoft advertises their products and Apple makes fun of Microsoft for have more incompatibilities than apple?
TheFR3SHINATOR 1 month ago
From what I learned in marketing studies, competition is good. It allows to enforce competent advancement between the different products. It offers choice in the market place. From what I learned, there is room for everyone who has a good product.
With operating systems, I tell people if they don't like Apple or MS, there is always Linux. Linux has greatly improved over the last few years. With MS and Apple, there is more direct support...
jerryg50 1 month ago
@mobeen1982
You're a cock sucking coward. Fucking pussy.
JewishDefender 1 month ago
Imagine a world where every second of your day is recorded,textualized,and remembered. Imagine a device that is in tune with your personal thoughts and character. A device that gives you ideas of exploration based on your mood and optical tendencies. Sci Fi talks about it...People are working on it. Get ready world. It's gonna get interesting.
supergayhomofag 1 month ago
It's good to know that Apple and Microsoft help each other...
Hoagiemonger 1 month ago
oh gates how wrong were u to under rate the iPad .... Input???? really? iPad is all about input!!!! anyways Apple rules!!!!! windows sucks!!!!!! lol just kidding! they're both great i have a mac and a pc.... love them both. although apple products tend to look hotter.....
ninocolato1987 1 month ago
@ninocolato1987 and you pay for it....
ajollywanker 1 month ago
@ninocolato1987 just beacuse they make you look with money
luliqz1 1 month ago
no he is saying its too damn much to pay for a mac when you can buy a pc for less. NOt everyone can afford a damn mac lol I wish I could cause it is a great puter dont get me wrong.
astorm13298 1 month ago
RIP Steve Jobs
Dirtydog1423 1 month ago
Handwriting is the slowest input method. Why would anyone prefer that over a keyboard?
Irockman1 1 month ago
@Irockman1 Many people (myself included) believe note-taking is easier and more fluid hand-written. I'm a very fast typer, but I have an inexplicable bias towards the pen and paper. It's why many people still write journals and note entries by hand.
bigjstokes 1 month ago
@Irockman1 because not all note taking is text. There's drawing, doodles, diagrams, highlighting, or not horizontal lines of text, and a lot of people like to take notes in a creative way
bangoker 1 month ago
pen? voice? Gate = hater! Admiting that the iPad is something all of his grand children bought would have been smooth!
sayoexcellent 1 month ago
@danielosbay and the sky is blue.
oldsmobileproject 1 month ago
fuck you Gates, Windows SUCKS DICK! you need to be a frikken computer technician to understand whats going on on that operating system
cb7pwn 1 month ago
@cb7pwn whoa dud calm down, first i want to say... no you dont... i have seen 5 year old use them just fine.... second i want to say i have seen grown men get lost on them as well. .. on the other hand i have seen a computer technician get lost on a mac.... so calm your shit.
GRAWman 1 month ago
Trololo video has more views than this one.
danielosbay 2 months ago
Allow the ipad to use flash, throw in a couple USB ports for things like external HDD/disc drives etc and switch the os from ios to lion and I think we'd see the death of both the desktop AND laptop within a few years. Seriously...that's how close we are.
Nintariz 2 months ago
@Nintariz That's totally dumb...So you think you can do visualizations on an iPad? Flash would destroy the performance of the browser etc. already said...
sqion 2 months ago
Bill is so right about the input thing on a ipad
mandomonkey1 2 months ago
@RW00632 i can tell you why, honestly, because I have a pc and mac. A mac, without a doubt for me, is much better at everyday use, everything just works better and smoother, watching videos, going online, ect.. but pcs are the best for gaming
DazNoobs 2 months ago
@DazNoobs If you compare two machines with the exact specifications running iOS and windows side by side, it will both offer the same experience, except in the end, windows will have much more functionality. I don't get why people think Apple computers are smoother, it doesn't make sense to me.
NoobsAreUsh 2 months ago 2
@NoobsAreUsh aha, but do you have an apple computer?
DazNoobs 2 months ago
@DazNoobs Actually yes, I had an older MacBook Pro, and it was in no way faster than the PCs that I own.
NoobsAreUsh 2 months ago
@NoobsAreUsh huh, must be the older macbook pro, because mines much better, you probably got unlucky
DazNoobs 2 months ago
@DazNoobs When I bought the MacBook it was top of the line, as was my PC. Obviously yours is better NOW, which comes at no surprise. I don't see how luck plays into this though, it just looks like you blindly defending the Mac.
NoobsAreUsh 2 months ago
@NoobsAreUsh actaully, its much more like your blindly defending pc's. My starting point was that their equal, yet you cannot accept that because you blindly follow microsoft, where I find the 2 companies equal so I can make a fair judgement
DazNoobs 2 months ago
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@DazNoobs Quoting you: "A mac ... is much better at everyday use, everything just works better and smoother." Later you say: "My starting point was that their equal." There seems to be some inconsistency in your statement. Nowhere do you explicitly say that they are equal. So which is it?
dgaitan240 2 months ago
@DazNoobs "must be the older macbook pro" - assumes the Mac is equal to the PC because it is older
"you probably got unlucky" - luck is not exactly a factor when it comes to a computer's performance
I was the one who said that "If you compare two machines with the exact specifications running iOS and windows side by side, it will both offer the SAME EXPERIENCE"
yet you keep saying the Mac is better.
Seriously, how can you even call me biased?
NoobsAreUsh 2 months ago
@NoobsAreUsh you said 'in the end windows will have more function' and your first comment was 'apple sucks and is overpriced'. That whole first comment summed up that ur a pc fanboy, I am not a fanboy, I was just using my pc for a few hours before I decided to settle down on my mac
DazNoobs 2 months ago
@DazNoobs I was referring to your post about user experience. You said the Mac was smoother in every day use, and I am telling you that is wrong. You can't exactly deny that the PC has more functionality than Macs though, can you? It's not exactly an opinion I'm giving here.
NoobsAreUsh 2 months ago
@NoobsAreUsh hold on, so you are saying its fact, not opinion, that pcs are better then macs! wow, I knew you were a fanboy, but that goes a bit far don't you think, even for your standards
DazNoobs 2 months ago
@DazNoobs I never said the PC was better than a Mac you delusional idiot, I said the PC has more functionality than Macs. Unless you can prove me wrong, which you can't by the way, as this is not my opinion, I don't see why you're calling me a fanboy. Why are you straying off topic anyways? Stick to the topic at hand, user experience, if you even have any more points to make.
NoobsAreUsh 1 month ago
@NoobsAreUsh yeh but then I could just say its my opinion that macs are better then pc's, and besides, even if your point about pcs having more functions then mac were true (which its not, and remember, u can't argue with that, its my opinion) then thats still untrue, because you would be saying windows has more functions then OSX, as you can bootcamp it. Ur obsessive arguing is just digging u into a deeper pit, fanboy
DazNoobs 1 month ago
@DazNoobs You do realize that by saying that you saying what he is saying is not true, when he is not saying an opinion he is stating a fact, he can argue with it. And don't call someone a fanboy when really, you're acting more of a fanboy than the other guy. You're both fanboys anyway. Now I wish you a good day, and if you managed to read this far into the comment, please don't reply to it, because I will not be reading anything of which you reply to me.
luigihijklmn 1 month ago
@luigihijklmn yeh, this guys right, lets stop arguing, we both have our own opinions and thats fine :), I don't think I'm a fanboy, you don't think u are, i think they are equal, you personally prefer windows, who really cares tbh, we both have our opinions so lets just end it
DazNoobs 1 month ago
@DazNoobs dude reading the converstation... you were getting owned... he is showing little fanboyisms. and you are showing a few as well. but he stated a lot of facts where you stated a lot of guesses and opinions.
GRAWman 1 month ago
@GRAWman aha, so we have a shit stirer do we. Your so bored that instead of just letting it settle and letting people have these things called opinions, look it up, you get bored easily and want to try to start another argument. I'm guessing your a pc fanboy then, either that or your a massive twat, or both. Yeh, probably both.
DazNoobs 1 month ago
I found the Mac to be a very closed system. Options are very proprietary, and far more expensive. As for functionality and available support , I found the Win system to be far better.
When comparing systems, make sure the computers are identical in hardware specifications, and all the devices connected are of the exact same specs.
I've worked on both systems, and my preference is Windows any time!
jerryg50 1 month ago
@RW00632 fuck u
EspanolSSMS 2 months ago
the iPad is basically just an oversized iPod Touch.
mohammedrun 2 months ago
2:45 siri :D
999LGS 2 months ago 14
@999LGS Dude Siri was non-existent 2 years ago
colbalt95 1 month ago
@999LGS or MAJEL...
xdir 1 month ago
"different strengths"...ie gates actually knew how technology worked, jobs just told people what to do.
ilikevines 2 months ago
WRONG!
The Apple iPAD has an office package, also at my work we have it connecting into a windows, and a OSX workstation.
kat35267 2 months ago
Newton vs Leibniz, Edison vs Tesla, and our generation Gates vs Jobs
GrayRazor 2 months ago 27
@GrayRazor Einstein vs ?
buzzy0016 2 months ago
@GrayRazor tesla and steve jobs would kick ass
illinois1984 1 month ago
@GrayRazor sorry man. but gates and jobs are edison. maybe tesla are all the engineers work for them.
pjmakey 1 month ago
@GrayRazor That's not very fair, one computer and business genius against one business genius.
TheOffensivePrick 1 month ago
@GrayRazor
Well clearly Gates win xD
mohab18 1 month ago
@GrayRazor Newton, Leibniz, Edison, and Tesla were scientific and mathematical geniuses. Gates and Jobs are business moguls/monopolists. Not a fair comparison. ;-)
crazyfreshman 1 month ago
linux is better than both of them
emewify 2 months ago
@emewify Linux is more stable/secure.....but compatibility hell No!
Thegamingtecher 2 months ago
Bill Gates has been more than cordial once to help out Apple when they required it. Without MS, Apple maybe another commodore 64.
modblogger1 2 months ago 3
We like it or not GATES is a great man which need a respect !!!
ipad,itunes,ipod,idotttt ... apple just wanna express themselves with these boys sorry GIRLS toys
MICROSOFT we love u
c35213 2 months ago
iPad is a TOY. It's like a guitar or a PSP. Microsoft makes computers. Bill Gates isn't wrong, get over it Apple fanboys.
andreicmello 2 months ago
Apple got started before Microsoft.... WTF BILL
iGeniusHD 2 months ago
I view Apple vs Microsoft like viewing 2 nice cars. Theres no need to bag on them, why cant you appreciate them for both being really nice cars and they are suited for different people with different lyfesyles
Erick220 2 months ago
@ProgHead93 I've always been saying that. It's the competition that helped the companies push forward. It kind of worries me what will happen with Steve Jobs gone. Either Apple will continue to be a tight competition or maybe it's time for some new companies to enter.
Kueller917J 2 months ago
World Y U NO know care about Dennis Ritchie
billytalent1fan24 2 months ago
smaller yeah right
windows xp 1gig
windows vista 2-3gig
windows 7 4gig
bumps123456789 2 months ago
@bumps123456789 his talking about the computer not the software.
iSoProo 2 months ago
Bill just doesn't get it. So long and thanks for all the iStuff Steve. You left a bunch of cool stuff behind.
ed1park 2 months ago
Bill Gates for President !
ashia4life313 2 months ago
Actually, Bill did nail it about the input. One thing though, Bill and Steve's conflict wasn't as extreme as our tech co