Syracuse Vegan Straight Edge Earth Crisis - Network Earth 1995

[butters5001]

are you going to earth crisis tonight?

[tickedoffnow]

That "red-head" and his bitches are idiots.

[calico992]

I'm Vegan, and I love the fact that E.C. is Vegan Animal Liberation, but I got to say, I don't think sex, is wrong at all. Sex is a natural, human expression, which brought every single one of us into existance. Like all things, if taken out of moderation, there can be problems. I don't agree with Karl at all, that sex is a form of base intoxication. If E.C. fans, decide existentially to chaste, rad, but they don't feel their whole image depends on it. Sex is natural, fun, beautiful, and amazing

[hellfudge26]

@calico992 100% agreed.

[angusangus123]

Anyone know of good stores in Syracuse where I can find some straight edge or band clothing?

[Guav]

@angusangus123 A hardcore show.

[kickouttheyuppies]

oh god the debates i see on the comments here are fucking stupid as hell. im straight edge and guess what i couldn't give a fuck with what you do to your body and i would like the same respect back. so just grow accept people's lifestyles that are different to yours and yeah hardline is thank god so don''t try any of that shit either......

[SludgePunkGrunge]

@kickouttheyuppies see people like you I respect. you do not try to force your beliefs on others. thats the way to be.

[DemonSlayer879]

@kickouttheyuppies I respect you bro. Cannabis smoker here. When I meet someone and we end up having the same interests I'll ask them if they smoke. What do I do if they don't? Nothing. I won't try and force something on someone that clearly doesn't show any form of interest. I occasionally meet the straight edge person that will try to do that to me. I have immense amounts of respect for people that respect the decisions you make with YOUR life/body.

[madamk]

Where are they all now...

[persevereandovercum]

DJ Rose rockin those sweet hoop earrings.

[ToolOfTrade]

So how many of these kids sold out Edge????? Hmm.....

[Guav]

@ToolOfTrade EVERYONE interviewed in this piece is still straight edge.

[ToolOfTrade]

@Guav How many of these kids are also Right Wing, Anti Choice, close minded assholes??? Hmmm......

[Guav]

@ToolOfTrade Since almost everyone interviewed is now between the ages of 38 and 50, and have children and families, calling them "kids" is a bit odd. Some of them are pro-life, and some of them are pro-choice. Some are left wing, a couple might be right wing. Most are straight, one is gay. None of them are close minded assholes—at least no more close minded than you are, with your loaded questions and presumptions.

[ToolOfTrade]

@Guav You mean like your nerdario friends in SLC or Cuse? Please nerds beating nerds is nothing. My loaded questions? The only load I blew was all over your girls face. Then afterword I cooked her a steak, and gave her a beer while you sat and watched. Smurf Crisis sucked and always will. Midgets who ripped off Believer and Sepultura. How original actually they are a metal band. Remember when they made Slither LOL?

[Guav]

@ToolOfTrade First you try the "Who's still SxE?" angle. That didn't work, so you took the position of of a PC left-winger complaining about right-wing assholes and anti-choice blah blah. Now you've taken the position of an OLC-like un-PC right-winger. It's clear that you're just a moronic troll with no actual arguments or solid position on anything, so fuck off, I'm done with you.

[persevereandovercum]

@ToolOfTrade really. and what exactly have you done with your life? cause its been 16 years since this video was made and everything they were involved with then is still going strong now.

[butters5001]

guav. i want your jersey.

[Guav]

@butters5001 I still have it :)

[butters5001]

@Guav why couldnt i be born earlier haha. i would have bought like 10

[Guav]

@butters5001 I only printed the one.

[butters5001]

@Guav then you are a lucky man haha.

[EngineOfRuin]

i just dont get it... did he even looked up some stuff ? heroin isnt even toxic to the body. dont wanna even start with lsd and other psychedelics. free your mind. cheers..

[Guav]

@EngineOfRuin I find the implication that your mind can only be "freed" through the consumption of drugs to be ludicrous.

As far as heroin goes, it's irrelevant whether or not pure heroin itself is toxic to the body—the cutting agents frequently are. There is evidence that perhaps as many as half of "heroin ODs" are really the result of the quinine, chloroquine, or phenolphthalein it is often mixed with.

The bottom line—and the point—is that shooting heroin is inherently dangerous.

[EngineOfRuin]

@Guav No, of course not only through drugs.

And for the rest of your comment, i agree absolutely.

[EngineOfRuin]

all you die-hard-x-on-the-hand-sxe-kid­s should listen to ian mackaye. simple.

to all of you who support the illegalization of natural substances/criminalization of drugs, simply fuck you. get some life experience.

[Guav]

@EngineOfRuin I'm one of the people in that video. I support the legalization of drugs, but that has nothing to do with my life experience. I'm also 38 years old and still die-hard-x-on-the-hand-sxe.

[EngineOfRuin]

@Guav Yeah, ok. I see, maybe i acted a little bit unobjective, but i´m just tired of those "Drugs are for Losers !"-fucks, its just ridiculous and so stupid. Those people dont know what they´re talking about.

Or the best thing, that "SxE-gang" in chicago, beating dealers up, and robbing them...

I´m vegan, i use and support drugs (except the real poison nicotine, its so unnecessary and disgusting, i hate it, and well alcohol, which i just find primitive and also fucking horrible), my

[EngineOfRuin]

@Guav best friends include one who´s straight edge, who s recently become vegan, one who was vegan-straight edge, then i introduced him to mind expansing/psychedelic substances (hes very grateful for that) and one vegetarian, who loves beer. So... :-D And we all love each other, haha.

I just needed to tell this. ;-)

So, great video, you are nice, and i´m fine now, haha.

Cheers.

[KimuraSOB666]

what band is that at 5:40?? Anyone??? Thanks!!

[elioxunder]

im not sxe anymore since 5 years, and i was sxe for probably 8 years, but im still enjoying this music ,I LOVE 90´S HARDCORE like EXC, Morning Again, Chokehold, Abnegation you know new school 90´s hardcore, i still got some sxe and vegan friends but now i drink alcohol, i smoke weed, and i eat meat, and i feel great with em and with everybody,.

[Binochy77]

straight edge closed mind

[mikepep33]

someone please explain to me how you can "sit around and play hockey." i'd really like to know.

[xStaycleanx]

I'm bummed that I was only 5 when this was going on. Bands like Earth Crisis aren't "cool" in the hardcore scene now. The 90s in Syracuse must have ruled.

[Guav]

@xStaycleanx I'm not going to lie, it WAS great. But I couldn't fully appreciate it at the time—years down the road you look back and think about how awesome the days gone by were. I suspect you'll do the same with the things that don't necessarily seem amazing to you now.

[strzebowiska]

I hold high respect for all those SXE folk, who went against the mindless mainstream and so called subcultures duplicating consumerism in other form.

It's easy to change your haircut and clothes and pretend to be alternative but

to radically change habits that's another story.

[joebassplayer]

have these guys heard of the word moderation?!

[ISoulfly]

I grew up on the Syracuse music scene. I have never been sXe nor will I ever be, but I have a lot of respect for their beliefs, as long as they don't push it on everybody. Back in the 90's and early 2000's were some of the best shows Syracuse has ever had and a lot of it had to do with the strong sXe scene. I miss the concerts, I miss the people and I honsetly miss the scene, which has seemed to slowly turn into fashion-core.

[fmbighair]

so, I just watched the "Forever True" DVD last night, I thought they mentioned your name a few times, Guav? :) funny stuff!

[Guav]

@fmbighair I don't remember, I should watch it again :)

[fmbighair]

@Guav yeah, during the director's commentary I think there's one part during a show where they're like, "oh, look there's Guav"....

[xxJDMIIxx]

i can tell you from personal experience, most of the kids in the atlanta scene that were SxE in the 90's aren't SxE anymore. i remember going to the shows with them not being SxE and getting shit for it. lol. now, i get shit for still not fitting in with my friends because i don't drink. go figure.

[Sidar654231]

Jesus. Not doing drugs has never been important to anyone else but you. Straight edge is only important to yourself. You only say it to yourself. The clouds don't give a shit. Stop arguing about it! Stop fighting amongst each other determining whether Straight Edge is the way or doing drugs is the way! It's all about YOURSELF! Minor Threat would laugh their fucking asses off if they saw people fighting about what's "right" and "not right"! It's all about where you want your life to be.

[TheXcontemptx]

grande earth crisissssssssssssssssss go vegann

[XSAMESIDEX]

XVX

[Quertis]

Militant straightedgers, there's an even bigger scene you should get into. It's called the KKK, and they burn stuff, crosses in particular. They bark angry words, make threatening statements, and sometimes beat the shit out of people for being different than themselves. Maybe you should join there cause, I'm sure they'd love to have you.

[videogme]

Me & my brothers do meth and eat meat. We go around kicking the shit out of vegen pussies. Straightfag punks are very weak and fold like lawn chairs when we stomp.

Not even joking.

[thesk27]

what if your nnot punk but your straight edge, do you beat up people for their life views and/or choices?

[JX315X]

I doubt that. You're just like everyone else that sits behind a fucking computer screen and talks shit. Get a life. If you don't want to be vegan or edge, that's your choice, but you DON'T go around claiming you "beat the shit" out of those that are. I highly doubt that. hahahaha.

Not even joking.

[earthalien77]

This video is awesome; very informative.

[xMINOR55THREATx]

XVX

[DoisenXVX]

XVX for life!

[xBryanBeatdownx]

@DoisenXVX That's the way to live

-VeganBryan

[Zabitso]

Vegan Straight Edge

You will never walk alone

xVx Israel

[Boyd89]

What sXe-ers do takes dedication, & ultimately BALLS. You guys deserve tremendous props for being able to be content in a state of sobriety. Way too many people (me included) use drugs to give our minds a backseat from our problems. I have the utmost respect for the lifestyle, if anything because I myself couldn't hack it for long.

But there are too many militants & self-righteous snobs among you who need to stop trying to enforce your views on others. That's naziism. Offer advice by all means.

[crucialxkarl]

xVx!

[bellchap]

X V X FOREVER!!

[JesterC88]

I love how the guys making fun of straight edge are totally fucked out of their minds

[Sclasspsycho]

I'm Straight Edge and I don't know anyone at my school who is. I makes me sick to hear other teens on my bus home talk about getting high on pot, drinking alcohol, and having sex in the bathrooms! Is anyone else who's Straight Edge willing to be my friend?

[JesterC88]

I know how you feel, I went to a small high school and I'm the only edge kid in the school that I know.

[ICJXXX]

Im Straight Edge and I pretty much dont like the AMERICA because of the society thinking that teen useage of drugs sex and alcohol . Four members of my family are pot smokers and i'll will never forgive them for it and another thing is that my grandmother bought a keg of beer for my mother and aunts in high school. I say every liqour store , porno store, crackhouse and methlab shall be BURNED TO ASHES AND EVERY DEALER AND PROSITUTE AND CUSTOMER SHALL BE BEATEN TO BLOODY PULPS

[thefugg1]

you're retarded

how bout we round up all the sxe kids and burn you motherfuckers and beat u to a pulp! fuck you for passing judgement on people because they decide to smoke herb or whatever. ever had sex? and sounds to me like your grandmother is fucking downnnn at least she knows how to have a good time. loosen up your vag. those meth labs aint gonna disappear but your x's probably will just like 90 percent of all u sxe kids.

[grimmdreadly]

@ICJXXX i agree one hundred percent

[XSxEOtakuX]

same here man i went a jesuit HS in NYC and i was the only edge kid in my school and a lot of ppl made fun of me for it. A couple ppl respected my choice but no one decided to claim. Im a freshmen in college now and i still havent found another edge kid. it sux but you gotta stick with it cuz its who you are and you cant change it. Stay true Stay Posi ,bro

[xBryanBeatdownx]

@Sclasspsycho I am dude. XVX life till I'm dead

[klemsin66]

what do they do sit around and play hockey? LMAO

[brokenxhope]

thank for the update bro .. but i actually referring to exc itself .. their are touring Australia but not s e Asia .. :)

[MikeLamb24]

Fuck straight edge. FUcking pussys

[Guav]

Yeah man, totally! Getting drunk is extremely tough and courageous, only pussies wouldn't do it.

[omfgusukbad]

@MikeLamb24 coward

[callmefuzzy206]

@MikeLamb24 how are we pussys for choosing not to depend on a substance

[ERICWENDYBRIAN]

True Til Death. For real. XXX

[demon6700]

my frends bro is in this band

[ULTIMOBD]

I saw this show in the mid 90's. I knew about punk bands like Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat, etc etc... but seeing this showed me a modern HC scene and it was my introduction. After seeing this segment on TBS I seeked out Earth Crisis and found bands like Snapcase, Strife, Integrity, etc etc etc. i am glad to see this video again... almost 15 years later!

[greenmarcosu]

xVx Pride

[AntiYChromosome]

xVx forever.

[JessicaSkulliiz]

keeping the sytraight edge alive!

[area43]

Thanks for posting this bro, my copy = poop! Other sxe related vids we need to track down

- Civ on Good Day New York

- Earth Crisis on some network, interviewed in Portland

xxx

[KimmoPT]

Great and inspiring report. Thanks for posting this up with a better quality.

[musicquizking]

I wonder how many kids in the crowd shots are still sXe.

[Guav]

I'm guessing most are not. But all the main people interviewed in it still are.

[jawkdna]

and they are from ATLANTA, sadly. I still gunnin' for them.

[jawkdna]

Amazing...

xxx

[Guav]

The best part is the two punk kids in the car—they are the best arguments for straight edge in the entire video haha

[louisville327]

Absolutely.

[PxRxPx]

One of them is an old friend of mine!

[tonyxprice]

@Guav Those dudes are representing ATL well.