Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality. Even non-religious people know this.
The homosexual agenda is not good for anyone, including those who consider themselves "gay".
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Chomsky has a cult like following of a few malcontents who mistake his deluded ramblings for profundity. Shockley, who also rambled like a madman, also had a few malcontents as followers as well. Chomsky and Shockley are lunatics.
@ThePatcam Yes I do. He is the left wing equivalent of Shockley except I don't think Chomsky is smart enough to win a Nobel Prize although they seem to give them to anybody nowadays . They gave on to Obama for nothing,
@ALTERED13TH nobel peace prizes are not given out simply based on merit. if you read the statement given on the subject, you'll see that it was given to obama because of his initial rhetoric and his astounding position of power to actually act in a way that would bring about an end to a great deal of suffering. we can expect him not to do it, but we have every reason to be hopeful and push him to follow through with that rhetoric.
@intrepgun Obviously not because the terrorist killer and exploiter Yasar Arafat received one. Perhaps Adolph Hitler should have received one too because he was a brilliant rhetoritician and had an astounding position of power. I see no reason to be hopeful with Obama. He has continuned the foreign policy of George W. Bush and has been incompetent in domestic policy - he has caused great suffering with his incompetence in economics.
@ALTERED13TH the problem in your proposition regarding hitler is that we have far more freedom- and a good bit of institutional channels- which we can use to hold obama to his word. so right there, you can see how you and i are at fault. we aren't doing it right. i can't control what obama does or thinks, but i do have some semblance of a say in the affairs of government and we all take that for granted- but there's a lot working against us, the biggest industry in the world, for example.
@intrepgun I don't even know what Obama stands for. His campaign used a bunch of silly, trite slogans, and the media portrayed him as a profound political genius. He has done nothing positive. He did nothing to address the race issues in this country, completely messed up health care reform, continued the Bush wars, which I in some ways support because I believe they have led to the revolutions in the Middle East. He's probably a one term loser like Carter.
@ALTERED13TH we can-as was my point- hold him to his soaring rhetoric. we have the ability. so saying 'he did nothing to help x, y and z' is just a way to direct blame in your own best interest. we all do it. NOTHING has ever been gifted from the top to the bottom. as for your remarks on carter... well, i don't think you are reading fully into his term or the work done before and after. he IS a war criminal, like all presidents after ww2, but he did actually do some good. and was vilified for it
@intrepgun Yeah, right. His soaring rhetoric is useless. Yes, the liberal welfare plantation that has enslaved generations of blacks in the ghetto was gifted from wealthy, white, liberal racists like LBJ, Kennedy, Kerry, Bobby "sheets'" Byrd, Rockefeller, etc., was gifted from the top to the bottom. It has worked really well. Better than the real southern plantations of old really.
@ALTERED13TH i don't think your ever going to allow a productive area of discussion to be reached, you seem more interested in mixing a bunch of issues together, complaining about them in the most annoying ways, and dismissing any input given. so, enjoy steeping in your opinions, even as the smell of them drives others away.
@intrepgun Yeah, right. His soaring rhetoric is useless. Yes, the liberal welfare plantation that has enslaved generations of blacks in the ghetto was gifted from wealthy, white, liberal racists like LBJ, Kennedy, Kerry, Bobby "sheets'" Byrd, Rockefeller, etc., was gifted from the top to the bottom. It has worked really well. Better than the real southern plantations of old really.
@ALTERED13TH not smart enough? clearly haven't read his works...he's changed linguistics into becoming a different discourse and he's like a walking dictionary on economic and political science and history..... besides since you mentioned obama you'd might want to mention Kissinger, Begin, Sadat, Arafat, Peres etc....but those are peace prize winners,,,Chomsky would be up for some other category (in a different world)
@ElBank2012 I have changed my perspective on Noam Chomsky. I have watched much more of his material and he is very insightful on American foreign policy. I favor thougtful people, on the left and right of the political spectrum, who are not dogmatic and who don't toe the party lines and simply parrot the party narriatives.
@PrometheanRunGood The Republitards and Demoncraps love polarization because the power brokers in each corrupt club of assholes laugh while the serfs fight over an imaginary aisle because the polarization allows the Republitards and Demoncraps and their puppet masters, the corporations, unions, trial lawyers, etc. to steal all the public money. I bet the theft of public money in the Afghan and Iraq wars amounts to billions of dollars.
@ALTERED13TH True, the two parties garner support on emotionally charged issues social issues like abortion and gay marriage but their economic policy frankly differ very little. They take funding from roughly the same set of corporate interests and they do what the paymasters say.
@PrometheanRunGood Gay marriage is not an emotional issue unless you are talking about the irrational response against it, but other than that it is completely logical.
The parties are not the same. A fringe religious extremist group is not the same as a party of blue dog dems, and that distinction is important. Although I'm sure you would like to oversimplify everything just to take your try hard too cool for parties centrist stance.
@ALTERED13TH They don't love polarization, we are already polarized due to personality types, but would just be less aware of it without the media. You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion. THAT MATTER. I hate how centrist scum act dismissive of important human rights issues to try and conflate them as attempts at polarization. No human rights matter, separation of church and state matters.
@honeybadgerftuw You have great difficulty writing a cogent and complete sentence so I have no idea what you are trying to communicate. Stay in grade school, then graduate high school and try to get into a good university so you can become educated. Tyrants and manipulators, including our corrupt politicians, depend on an uneducated population. You cannot be educated if you cannot read. You are not well educated because it is obvious you cannot write a cogent and complete sentence.
@ALTERED13TH You appear to lack grade school reading comprehension, so I would suggest taking your own advice instead of deflecting your shortcomings. You claimed the parties love polarization my response was:
"we are already polarized due to personality types, but we would be less aware of it without the media. You are polarized, you have opinions on divisive topics" What is so hard to understand?
@honeybadgerftuw I stand by my claim that you have difficulty writing a complete sentence. You have difficulty with logic and your assertions lack self evidence and accuracy. What does, "You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion," even mean? Having an opinion on a topic does not imply that one is polarized. Unless your assertion is that I am bipolar, I am unclear what you mean by "you are polarized." Does every topic upon which on can opine have only two poles?
@ALTERED13TH You talk as if your opinion carries any wait with me. You have just done nothing but confirm that you have reading troubles. "What does, "You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion," even mean?" (polarize) cause to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions, you are already divide the parties just make it more blatant. What is so hard for you to understand?
@ALTERED13TH You talk as if your opinion carries any wait with me. You have just done nothing but confirm that you have reading troubles. "What does, "You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion," even mean?" (polarize) cause to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions, you are already divided the parties just make it more blatant. What is so hard for you to understand? Even a child could understand this.
@ALTERED13TH Do topics and opinions people hold about them automatically polarize people internally and externally because there are only two camps into which one can fall, e.g. right wing, left wing; right, wrong; for, against? How does the media make us aware of polarization? Is it by interviewing their narrative spinners?" For example, FixedNews interviews the Coulters, et. al. and MSN, interviews the Katrina vanden Heuvel's, et. al. and then we are aware of our polarization?
@ALTERED13TH Weight is different than wait, as in you wait for someone to arrive. Your sentence "....(polarize) causes to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions, you are already divide....." is bizare and makes no sense. One concentrates, with an "s," on something not about something. Divide needs a "d" at the end of it. You neither think nor write clearly or convincingly.
I remember Donald Rumsfeld discussing Burundi years ago and lamenting the fact that such atrocities were perpetrated there and nobody in the world seemed to care. I love Peter Worthington's first statement. Brilliant. Chomsky is largely irrelevant except for his work in linguistics.
@jiggity99 Ever have a scab that you pick at? Listening to Chomsky is kind of like picking a scab, It hurts, it's annoying and you probably shouldn't do it because it's bad for your physical health. Listening to Comsky is probably bad for your mental health but on the other hand it is also entertaining because he takes himself so seriously and he is so smug and foolish. For such a smart linguist, he is fairly ignorant.
@ALTERED13TH Ad hominem. Of what is Chomsky ignorant? I don't think I've ever heard a substantive criticism of Chomsky. Never once. Just vague assertions and featherbrained ad hominems.
@CrateofStolenDirt Ignorant enough of politics and history since WWI on to place his focus on the U.S. as the root of most evil in the world. He is so much like Shockley in that intelligence in one area, physics in Shockley's case and linguistics, in Chomsky's case, does not imply or confer intelligence in another area. Shockley's racist views have no basis in genetics and Chomsy's political views have no basis in politics or in reality for that matter.
@ALTERED13TH You've still yet to make an argument; you've merely rephrased your assertion.
I've never heard Chomsky say anything so sloppy and imprecise as "The U.S. is the root of most evil in the world".
If you want to critique Chomsky intelligently, you need to directly quote a specific argument he has made and provide a lucid and specific counterargument as to why it is unsound.
I very much doubt you will do this, and I say again, as far as my observations go it has never been done.
@CrateofStolenDirt Here are just a few of his insane rantings: "Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state." His moral equivalence of propaganda to bludgeon could only be drawn by a deluded mind. Collectivist killers like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez and others use both propaganda and the bludgeon. The anti Semetic propaganda of these thugs led to death. Not so much with democratic propaganda. Chomsky makes absurd statements as facts.
@ALTERED13TH : If you did not have a discarded breast implant for brains, you might observe that Chomsky has never said that police states do not use propaganda. He says what is transparently obvious to any schoolboy of ten, that where a state loses the power to coerce and strongarm, disinformation becomes its primary mode of control. If you think politicians don't lie to the public you are free to defy reality.
Chomsky's viewpoint is totally reprehensible. The only moral response to all the world's Us vs Them viewpoint is to oppose it not with some cock-eyed "Us vs Us and what They do matters little if at all", but with the view that we are ALL "us" and EVERYONE'S actions for good or ill matter. The various people who US policy and/or popular culture has treated as Them are neither the monsters that official or popular opinion treat them as nor the amoral blobs that Chomsky in effect treats them as.
Not at all. His point is not that we should ignore atrocities committed by others, but that we should apply our efforts where they will have the most impact. It is infinitely easier to control what I do than to control what you do.
@BedBugAcres I appreciate your point, but still agree with him that once you lose the moral high ground, your effectiveness as a critic of others is greatly reduced. For example, criticism of Chinese human rights abuses made far more sense coming from Carter than from Bush.
@ferretburger First of all, after decades of relentlessly criticizing the US, Israel and the West, who is "we" in Chomsky's case? When you parade around with Hamas officials and help legitimize them, you actually have some clout with them. Clout Chomsky has chosen not to use, because Hamas is not "us". Second, while holding yourself to a higher standard is great, but it contains the seeds of arrogance that leads to the sort of contempt for the victims of "others " he actually espouses here.
@ferretburger Third, Chomsky's ham-fisted critiques of American policy have tended to blur or even deny the distinctions between Bush and Carter that you rightly highlight. Finally (for now - plumbing the depths of Chomsky's moral myopia would take several books), ANYONE who is one-side in their criticisms to the point of absurdity, simply gets ignored as a doctrinaire airhead, and that has been Chomsky's fate. He's totally deluded if he thinks his writings have achieved significant levels of
Good to know that the guy responsible for writing the Axis of Evil state of the union speech and was the major mouthpiece (through GWB) for the illegal occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq is a fucking Canadian!
Is that the David dumbass Frum from the Bush regime? Mr. Axis of Evil? Of course, the Bush assholes didn't throw themselves into the mix of being "evil" even though they commited so many corrupt and cruel acts.
Just a responses to a question regarding the source of the audio...The segment was included in "Manufacturing Consent", but is originally from the 1988 Massey Lectures delivered by Chomsky, entitled "Necessary Illusions". Worth listening to.
Capitalism is the wage slavery of immense humanity in a politically manipulated MARKET SYSTEM of artificial scarcity and distortions to perpetuate the conditions of servitude and compliance INDEFINITLY in the interest of Ruling/Owning class. Capitalist society has made plenty possible,we have all the means and potentially so much more for communities of humanity in cooperation for our common needs and well being in harmony , wisdom and creative expressions . Capitalist society is outdated
I've listened to Chomsky in tons of interviews and discussions. I've yet to see anyone catch him off guard. You may disagree with his interpretation of the facts, but you can't doubt he knows the facts and he has a keen mind. If you plan on challenging Chomsky's position, you better be prepared.
i think his appeals limited cuz its more complicated than most ppl understand. ppl understand glenn beck. my country good. but to know who suharto is? what the interests and agenda was, who were the players, its too much for most avg citizens. i love chom but it seems politics is marketing is politics.
@kabeerajameela, The segment was included in Manufactruing Consent, but was taken from the 1988 "Massey Lectures" delivered by Chomsky, entitled Necessary Illusions. Worth Listening to.
The segment was included in "Manufacturing Consent", but is originally from the 1988 Massey Lectures delivered by Chomsky, entitled "Necessary Illusions". Worth listening to.
i introduced my dad to him recently, he said i'd go to his funeral given the chance. i said no, i'd give him one of my kidney's to keep the great man going
This is one of the few, and I mean few, public figures I would volunteer to bodyguard for. His mind is a true treasure for those who value liberty, justice, and truth.
His theories are retarded? Hmm... you sound like someone who knows what he's talking about and all those examples you gave certainly back up your argument.
Thank you, mr1001nights! I was just about to send a message to Chomskyan asking if he knew where I could find this event; good thing I took a stroll by your channel first.
You know, you should tag Frum's name so that others can find it in the future. I searched many months ago, and didn't find it.
I disagree with people that say they should never spar with Chomsky. It just boggles my mind when people argue with him without actually reading his work first.
The first question by a"journalist "...is the pathetic HACK, David Frum. You might remember him as the author of the "axis of evil" phrase of Bush's speech. A bum boy to power, who is morally corrupt.
I would have to agree with bogey down there; why even try to spar with Chomsky?
I mean, these guys probably had weeks if not more to prepare their best questions, the first guy even tried to refute Chomsky!!!
He takes these intellectuals from whatever arena they want to battle in, into a sort of backyard wrestling match and breaks them over their own picnic tables...
Thank the stars I was alive at the same time as this man, and could see the very best in action.
By the way, David Frum, one of the journalists that Chomsky intellectually OWNES, was the Bush speech writer that came up with the phrase "Axis of Evil" - to bad a Chomsky brow beating didn't enlighten him - just mad him more of a right wing moron.
I get to see him all the time too and talk to him on occasions when he is not mobbed.... I usually just ask how he is holding up.... any real questions I would email him.
I approached him about doing something on youtube but he cited time and physical constraints....
I think people like us should step in and do the type of analysis that he does, as Jonathan and others are currently doing, so maybe he can enjoy his final few years a bit more.... just a thought.
i would ask him well thought out, specific technical questions that no one has asked him before, about things like psychology, the mind, evolution, events, about people like Bakunin etc; don't ask him the "what can we do to change the world?" garbage that everyone asks him. But u don't need to interview him 1 on 1. He usually answers E-mails
here is what i would ask. ive been unable to find official documentation or chomskys response to Bill Bennetts point in a shared interview they had on the topic of the world court condemnation of U.S. atrocities in south america.
"when there were free elections in Nicaragua, and Mrs. Chamorro took office, all the lawsuits, all the complaints against the United States were dropped, when you had a democratically elected country."
@mr1001nights Sorry for bothering with a stupid question but can you tell me name of Soviet dissident Noam was talking about? I thought he said Shahak, like Israel Shahak. But Shahak was Israeli dissident and human rights activist.
I have a serious question for you. I have the opportunity to do a short interview with Chomsky, I live close to MIT and I have spoken with him about the several times.
If you had 15 to 20 minutes with him, what would you ask? I have been asking all of the biggest NC fans I know and I would love to hear your thoughts.
Chomsky was certainly at his best here.
xjtbarnesx 1 month ago
Chom-slap?
Chom-Choped? as in that guys position was just Chom-Choped at the knees.
RAMSEY1987 3 months ago
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
FUCK THEM UP, NOAM!!!
TheLockon00 3 months ago
Why the hell are you recording a screen!?!!
TheEthanwashere 5 months ago
david frum is a fucking neocon scumbag chomsky is briliant in in his field
i dare you to debate him
billclymer 6 months ago
Chomsky has a cult like following of a few malcontents who mistake his deluded ramblings for profundity. Shockley, who also rambled like a madman, also had a few malcontents as followers as well. Chomsky and Shockley are lunatics.
ALTERED13TH 7 months ago
@ALTERED13TH uhh you obviously don't really know who chomsky is
ThePatcam 7 months ago
@ThePatcam Yes I do. He is the left wing equivalent of Shockley except I don't think Chomsky is smart enough to win a Nobel Prize although they seem to give them to anybody nowadays . They gave on to Obama for nothing,
ALTERED13TH 7 months ago
@ALTERED13TH nobel peace prizes are not given out simply based on merit. if you read the statement given on the subject, you'll see that it was given to obama because of his initial rhetoric and his astounding position of power to actually act in a way that would bring about an end to a great deal of suffering. we can expect him not to do it, but we have every reason to be hopeful and push him to follow through with that rhetoric.
intrepgun 6 months ago
@intrepgun Obviously not because the terrorist killer and exploiter Yasar Arafat received one. Perhaps Adolph Hitler should have received one too because he was a brilliant rhetoritician and had an astounding position of power. I see no reason to be hopeful with Obama. He has continuned the foreign policy of George W. Bush and has been incompetent in domestic policy - he has caused great suffering with his incompetence in economics.
ALTERED13TH 6 months ago
@ALTERED13TH the problem in your proposition regarding hitler is that we have far more freedom- and a good bit of institutional channels- which we can use to hold obama to his word. so right there, you can see how you and i are at fault. we aren't doing it right. i can't control what obama does or thinks, but i do have some semblance of a say in the affairs of government and we all take that for granted- but there's a lot working against us, the biggest industry in the world, for example.
intrepgun 6 months ago
@intrepgun I don't even know what Obama stands for. His campaign used a bunch of silly, trite slogans, and the media portrayed him as a profound political genius. He has done nothing positive. He did nothing to address the race issues in this country, completely messed up health care reform, continued the Bush wars, which I in some ways support because I believe they have led to the revolutions in the Middle East. He's probably a one term loser like Carter.
ALTERED13TH 6 months ago
@ALTERED13TH we can-as was my point- hold him to his soaring rhetoric. we have the ability. so saying 'he did nothing to help x, y and z' is just a way to direct blame in your own best interest. we all do it. NOTHING has ever been gifted from the top to the bottom. as for your remarks on carter... well, i don't think you are reading fully into his term or the work done before and after. he IS a war criminal, like all presidents after ww2, but he did actually do some good. and was vilified for it
intrepgun 6 months ago
@intrepgun Yeah, right. His soaring rhetoric is useless. Yes, the liberal welfare plantation that has enslaved generations of blacks in the ghetto was gifted from wealthy, white, liberal racists like LBJ, Kennedy, Kerry, Bobby "sheets'" Byrd, Rockefeller, etc., was gifted from the top to the bottom. It has worked really well. Better than the real southern plantations of old really.
ALTERED13TH 6 months ago
@ALTERED13TH i don't think your ever going to allow a productive area of discussion to be reached, you seem more interested in mixing a bunch of issues together, complaining about them in the most annoying ways, and dismissing any input given. so, enjoy steeping in your opinions, even as the smell of them drives others away.
intrepgun 6 months ago
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@intrepgun Yeah, right. His soaring rhetoric is useless. Yes, the liberal welfare plantation that has enslaved generations of blacks in the ghetto was gifted from wealthy, white, liberal racists like LBJ, Kennedy, Kerry, Bobby "sheets'" Byrd, Rockefeller, etc., was gifted from the top to the bottom. It has worked really well. Better than the real southern plantations of old really.
ALTERED13TH 6 months ago
@ALTERED13TH not smart enough? clearly haven't read his works...he's changed linguistics into becoming a different discourse and he's like a walking dictionary on economic and political science and history..... besides since you mentioned obama you'd might want to mention Kissinger, Begin, Sadat, Arafat, Peres etc....but those are peace prize winners,,,Chomsky would be up for some other category (in a different world)
ElBank2012 1 week ago
@ElBank2012 I have changed my perspective on Noam Chomsky. I have watched much more of his material and he is very insightful on American foreign policy. I favor thougtful people, on the left and right of the political spectrum, who are not dogmatic and who don't toe the party lines and simply parrot the party narriatives.
ALTERED13TH 1 week ago
@ALTERED13TH Good for you, it's not often we see people willing to change their minds based on logical arguments in this polarized day and age.
PrometheanRunGood 1 week ago
@PrometheanRunGood The Republitards and Demoncraps love polarization because the power brokers in each corrupt club of assholes laugh while the serfs fight over an imaginary aisle because the polarization allows the Republitards and Demoncraps and their puppet masters, the corporations, unions, trial lawyers, etc. to steal all the public money. I bet the theft of public money in the Afghan and Iraq wars amounts to billions of dollars.
ALTERED13TH 1 week ago
@ALTERED13TH True, the two parties garner support on emotionally charged issues social issues like abortion and gay marriage but their economic policy frankly differ very little. They take funding from roughly the same set of corporate interests and they do what the paymasters say.
Sad but there it is.
PrometheanRunGood 1 week ago
@PrometheanRunGood Gay marriage is not an emotional issue unless you are talking about the irrational response against it, but other than that it is completely logical.
The parties are not the same. A fringe religious extremist group is not the same as a party of blue dog dems, and that distinction is important. Although I'm sure you would like to oversimplify everything just to take your try hard too cool for parties centrist stance.
honeybadgerftuw 2 days ago
@ALTERED13TH They don't love polarization, we are already polarized due to personality types, but would just be less aware of it without the media. You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion. THAT MATTER. I hate how centrist scum act dismissive of important human rights issues to try and conflate them as attempts at polarization. No human rights matter, separation of church and state matters.
honeybadgerftuw 2 days ago
@honeybadgerftuw You have great difficulty writing a cogent and complete sentence so I have no idea what you are trying to communicate. Stay in grade school, then graduate high school and try to get into a good university so you can become educated. Tyrants and manipulators, including our corrupt politicians, depend on an uneducated population. You cannot be educated if you cannot read. You are not well educated because it is obvious you cannot write a cogent and complete sentence.
ALTERED13TH 9 hours ago
@ALTERED13TH You appear to lack grade school reading comprehension, so I would suggest taking your own advice instead of deflecting your shortcomings. You claimed the parties love polarization my response was:
"we are already polarized due to personality types, but we would be less aware of it without the media. You are polarized, you have opinions on divisive topics" What is so hard to understand?
honeybadgerftuw 8 hours ago
@honeybadgerftuw I stand by my claim that you have difficulty writing a complete sentence. You have difficulty with logic and your assertions lack self evidence and accuracy. What does, "You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion," even mean? Having an opinion on a topic does not imply that one is polarized. Unless your assertion is that I am bipolar, I am unclear what you mean by "you are polarized." Does every topic upon which on can opine have only two poles?
ALTERED13TH 6 hours ago
@ALTERED13TH You talk as if your opinion carries any wait with me. You have just done nothing but confirm that you have reading troubles. "What does, "You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion," even mean?" (polarize) cause to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions, you are already divide the parties just make it more blatant. What is so hard for you to understand?
honeybadgerftuw 5 hours ago
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@ALTERED13TH You talk as if your opinion carries any wait with me. You have just done nothing but confirm that you have reading troubles. "What does, "You are polarized, you have opinions on topics like abortion," even mean?" (polarize) cause to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions, you are already divided the parties just make it more blatant. What is so hard for you to understand? Even a child could understand this.
honeybadgerftuw 5 hours ago
@ALTERED13TH Do topics and opinions people hold about them automatically polarize people internally and externally because there are only two camps into which one can fall, e.g. right wing, left wing; right, wrong; for, against? How does the media make us aware of polarization? Is it by interviewing their narrative spinners?" For example, FixedNews interviews the Coulters, et. al. and MSN, interviews the Katrina vanden Heuvel's, et. al. and then we are aware of our polarization?
ALTERED13TH 3 hours ago
@ALTERED13TH Weight is different than wait, as in you wait for someone to arrive. Your sentence "....(polarize) causes to concentrate about two conflicting or contrasting positions, you are already divide....." is bizare and makes no sense. One concentrates, with an "s," on something not about something. Divide needs a "d" at the end of it. You neither think nor write clearly or convincingly.
ALTERED13TH 2 hours ago
he says there are people from soviet union who are there because of his personal actions?
wow is that true?
munkdo3 8 months ago
No. I've never picked at a scab and I don't take the time to listen to those I think are ignorant.
jiggity99 8 months ago
Chomsky is practically the embodiment of pure reason
7CATALYST25 9 months ago
@7CATALYST25 ...perfectly said. His precision of thought is incredible.
jiggity99 8 months ago
I remember Donald Rumsfeld discussing Burundi years ago and lamenting the fact that such atrocities were perpetrated there and nobody in the world seemed to care. I love Peter Worthington's first statement. Brilliant. Chomsky is largely irrelevant except for his work in linguistics.
ALTERED13TH 10 months ago
@ALTERED13TH If you think he's irrelevant why watch the video?
jiggity99 8 months ago
@jiggity99 Ever have a scab that you pick at? Listening to Chomsky is kind of like picking a scab, It hurts, it's annoying and you probably shouldn't do it because it's bad for your physical health. Listening to Comsky is probably bad for your mental health but on the other hand it is also entertaining because he takes himself so seriously and he is so smug and foolish. For such a smart linguist, he is fairly ignorant.
ALTERED13TH 8 months ago
@ALTERED13TH Ad hominem. Of what is Chomsky ignorant? I don't think I've ever heard a substantive criticism of Chomsky. Never once. Just vague assertions and featherbrained ad hominems.
CrateofStolenDirt 7 months ago
@CrateofStolenDirt Ignorant enough of politics and history since WWI on to place his focus on the U.S. as the root of most evil in the world. He is so much like Shockley in that intelligence in one area, physics in Shockley's case and linguistics, in Chomsky's case, does not imply or confer intelligence in another area. Shockley's racist views have no basis in genetics and Chomsy's political views have no basis in politics or in reality for that matter.
ALTERED13TH 7 months ago
@ALTERED13TH You've still yet to make an argument; you've merely rephrased your assertion.
I've never heard Chomsky say anything so sloppy and imprecise as "The U.S. is the root of most evil in the world".
If you want to critique Chomsky intelligently, you need to directly quote a specific argument he has made and provide a lucid and specific counterargument as to why it is unsound.
I very much doubt you will do this, and I say again, as far as my observations go it has never been done.
CrateofStolenDirt 7 months ago 3
@CrateofStolenDirt Here are just a few of his insane rantings: "Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state." His moral equivalence of propaganda to bludgeon could only be drawn by a deluded mind. Collectivist killers like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez and others use both propaganda and the bludgeon. The anti Semetic propaganda of these thugs led to death. Not so much with democratic propaganda. Chomsky makes absurd statements as facts.
ALTERED13TH 7 months ago
@ALTERED13TH : If you did not have a discarded breast implant for brains, you might observe that Chomsky has never said that police states do not use propaganda. He says what is transparently obvious to any schoolboy of ten, that where a state loses the power to coerce and strongarm, disinformation becomes its primary mode of control. If you think politicians don't lie to the public you are free to defy reality.
MenOfLetters 7 months ago 2
As soon as someone drops the "e" word, elite, you know he is talking trash, just like the Palindrones and other talk radio dumbasses.
DawnOfTheDead991 10 months ago
Chomsky still claims that Stalin and Hitler made progress. They did not.
warriorprince1010 11 months ago
@warriorprince1010: Your ignorance astounds me.
chinopisces 10 months ago
@chinopisces My point stands. You are clearly a loon.
warriorprince1010 10 months ago
@warriorprince1010
Where did he say this?
Dogar230 5 months ago
Chomsky's viewpoint is totally reprehensible. The only moral response to all the world's Us vs Them viewpoint is to oppose it not with some cock-eyed "Us vs Us and what They do matters little if at all", but with the view that we are ALL "us" and EVERYONE'S actions for good or ill matter. The various people who US policy and/or popular culture has treated as Them are neither the monsters that official or popular opinion treat them as nor the amoral blobs that Chomsky in effect treats them as.
BedBugAcres 11 months ago
@BedBugAcres
Not at all. His point is not that we should ignore atrocities committed by others, but that we should apply our efforts where they will have the most impact. It is infinitely easier to control what I do than to control what you do.
ferretburger 10 months ago
@ferretburger I am well aware that that's the official Chomskyan party line, but it doesn't wash.
BedBugAcres 10 months ago
@BedBugAcres I appreciate your point, but still agree with him that once you lose the moral high ground, your effectiveness as a critic of others is greatly reduced. For example, criticism of Chinese human rights abuses made far more sense coming from Carter than from Bush.
ferretburger 10 months ago
@ferretburger First of all, after decades of relentlessly criticizing the US, Israel and the West, who is "we" in Chomsky's case? When you parade around with Hamas officials and help legitimize them, you actually have some clout with them. Clout Chomsky has chosen not to use, because Hamas is not "us". Second, while holding yourself to a higher standard is great, but it contains the seeds of arrogance that leads to the sort of contempt for the victims of "others " he actually espouses here.
BedBugAcres 10 months ago
@ferretburger Third, Chomsky's ham-fisted critiques of American policy have tended to blur or even deny the distinctions between Bush and Carter that you rightly highlight. Finally (for now - plumbing the depths of Chomsky's moral myopia would take several books), ANYONE who is one-side in their criticisms to the point of absurdity, simply gets ignored as a doctrinaire airhead, and that has been Chomsky's fate. He's totally deluded if he thinks his writings have achieved significant levels of
BedBugAcres 10 months ago
@ferretburger ... acceptance by the general public. But we knew that about him already. He is the leader of a marginal personality cult. That's all.
BedBugAcres 10 months ago
Good to know that the guy responsible for writing the Axis of Evil state of the union speech and was the major mouthpiece (through GWB) for the illegal occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq is a fucking Canadian!
starkweather444 1 year ago
Thanks for posting.
Expateach 1 year ago
Is that the David dumbass Frum from the Bush regime? Mr. Axis of Evil? Of course, the Bush assholes didn't throw themselves into the mix of being "evil" even though they commited so many corrupt and cruel acts.
ridewave444 1 year ago
I love Noam Chomsky. I have learned so much from him just watching Youtube. He has opened my eyes.
ZakBrownrigg123 1 year ago
David...Frum under what rock did he crawl? Famous lickspittle and APAIC Bagman!
xanbex 1 year ago 2
This has been edited. Do not research chomsky on youtube.
MrRobertog4 1 year ago
Just a responses to a question regarding the source of the audio...The segment was included in "Manufacturing Consent", but is originally from the 1988 Massey Lectures delivered by Chomsky, entitled "Necessary Illusions". Worth listening to.
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arzoyan 1 year ago
I've listened to Chomsky in tons of interviews and discussions. I've yet to see anyone catch him off guard. You may disagree with his interpretation of the facts, but you can't doubt he knows the facts and he has a keen mind. If you plan on challenging Chomsky's position, you better be prepared.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
i think his appeals limited cuz its more complicated than most ppl understand. ppl understand glenn beck. my country good. but to know who suharto is? what the interests and agenda was, who were the players, its too much for most avg citizens. i love chom but it seems politics is marketing is politics.
adzug 1 year ago
Was the accompanying video to this audio featured in Manufacturing Consent? It sounds familiar, but I can't place it.
kabeerajameela 2 years ago
@kabeerajameela, The segment was included in Manufactruing Consent, but was taken from the 1988 "Massey Lectures" delivered by Chomsky, entitled Necessary Illusions. Worth Listening to.
1canondocre 1 year ago
The segment was included in "Manufacturing Consent", but is originally from the 1988 Massey Lectures delivered by Chomsky, entitled "Necessary Illusions". Worth listening to.
1canondocre 1 year ago
So Frum gets his facts wrong and totally misunderstands Chomsky's position--consequence; Frum gets destroyed. It's so nice to see.
chomsky88 2 years ago 13
Chomsky is a great man i just hope the american people appreciate him more.
tothecap 2 years ago 4
I'll get in that line with you. He is a role model for anyone who seeks truth and integrity.
Dalychomsky 2 years ago 4
i introduced my dad to him recently, he said i'd go to his funeral given the chance. i said no, i'd give him one of my kidney's to keep the great man going
ozwalde 2 years ago 5
@ozwalde just a great line man :)
alistairproductions 2 years ago
This is one of the few, and I mean few, public figures I would volunteer to bodyguard for. His mind is a true treasure for those who value liberty, justice, and truth.
tstruss912 2 years ago 18
@tstruss912 I echo this sentiment. He is a great mentor of mine. And he answers my email.
PurpleHoneyBear 1 month ago
so awesome. classic chomsky smackdown on frum. thanks for posting extended footage of something from manufacturing consent!
ehrengm 2 years ago 5
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chomsky is a lier and a bitch. his theories are retarded
trevor920 2 years ago
His theories are retarded? Hmm... you sound like someone who knows what he's talking about and all those examples you gave certainly back up your argument.
MrSalamander7 2 years ago 5
Frum is a moron.
fatmaggi 2 years ago 2
love this interview rigth at the end noam is bruce lee with sence of humor
juanpolar 2 years ago
lmfao, nice analogy...completely agree.
pacman211 2 years ago
Thank you, mr1001nights! I was just about to send a message to Chomskyan asking if he knew where I could find this event; good thing I took a stroll by your channel first.
You know, you should tag Frum's name so that others can find it in the future. I searched many months ago, and didn't find it.
MononofuBlood 2 years ago 2
Chomsky destroys Frum. What a humiliation.
wildhippy 2 years ago
I disagree with people that say they should never spar with Chomsky. It just boggles my mind when people argue with him without actually reading his work first.
applaya 3 years ago
HAHAHAHA bravo Chomsky... owned those idiots.
mravka9 3 years ago
Frum is a true fucking idiot. He is trying to get one up on Chomsky...why?? he is out of his league.
alwayswilling1232000 3 years ago 6
Chomsky is great!
rsuthe00 3 years ago 4
The first question by a"journalist "...is the pathetic HACK, David Frum. You might remember him as the author of the "axis of evil" phrase of Bush's speech. A bum boy to power, who is morally corrupt.
xanbex 3 years ago 9
This is an amazing interview! Please keep it up!
TransfiguredNight 3 years ago 6
Noam is the best debater I have ever heard...why o why do try hards honestly think they can get one over on him...its beyond me...
planetzion 3 years ago 7
Thank you for posting this.
I would have to agree with bogey down there; why even try to spar with Chomsky?
I mean, these guys probably had weeks if not more to prepare their best questions, the first guy even tried to refute Chomsky!!!
He takes these intellectuals from whatever arena they want to battle in, into a sort of backyard wrestling match and breaks them over their own picnic tables...
Thank the stars I was alive at the same time as this man, and could see the very best in action.
F3loniousMonk 3 years ago 2
Haha, I agree with you completely.
t0kt0k 3 years ago
By the way, David Frum, one of the journalists that Chomsky intellectually OWNES, was the Bush speech writer that came up with the phrase "Axis of Evil" - to bad a Chomsky brow beating didn't enlighten him - just mad him more of a right wing moron.
wildhippy 3 years ago 4
Why would anyone even attempt to fuck around wit Chomsky? lol It's hysterical listening to him verbally and mentally pulverize these assholes!
erby1kabogey 3 years ago 9
Chomsky is the best
CrstyleTheGreat 3 years ago 44
Check out Znet for Chomsky articles! And check out the Chomsky Page on Myspace!!!
keytoothed 3 years ago 10
david frum, pwnd
KentAllard 3 years ago 12
fucking david frum, what a wimp.
0neironaut 3 years ago 12
I fucking hate David Frum.
AllieCaulfield 3 years ago 49
I get to see him all the time too and talk to him on occasions when he is not mobbed.... I usually just ask how he is holding up.... any real questions I would email him.
I approached him about doing something on youtube but he cited time and physical constraints....
I think people like us should step in and do the type of analysis that he does, as Jonathan and others are currently doing, so maybe he can enjoy his final few years a bit more.... just a thought.
Chomskyan 3 years ago 13
i would ask him well thought out, specific technical questions that no one has asked him before, about things like psychology, the mind, evolution, events, about people like Bakunin etc; don't ask him the "what can we do to change the world?" garbage that everyone asks him. But u don't need to interview him 1 on 1. He usually answers E-mails
mr1001nights 3 years ago 7
Does he really answer emails? He's so busy him answering emails doesn't seem possible.
888zzz 3 years ago
He answered a couple of mine, a few years ago. Looking back, I feel embarrassed that I had him answered such simple questions about politics.
zzRider 3 years ago 2
@mr1001nights
here is what i would ask. ive been unable to find official documentation or chomskys response to Bill Bennetts point in a shared interview they had on the topic of the world court condemnation of U.S. atrocities in south america.
"when there were free elections in Nicaragua, and Mrs. Chamorro took office, all the lawsuits, all the complaints against the United States were dropped, when you had a democratically elected country."
can anyone shed some light on this?
PersecutedCitizen 1 year ago
@mr1001nights Sorry for bothering with a stupid question but can you tell me name of Soviet dissident Noam was talking about? I thought he said Shahak, like Israel Shahak. But Shahak was Israeli dissident and human rights activist.
arijitrule 1 year ago
@arijitrule Andrei Sakharov
stoprainingonme 1 year ago
@mr1001nights how the shit can u reach him via email?
ThePatcam 7 months ago
mr1001
I have a serious question for you. I have the opportunity to do a short interview with Chomsky, I live close to MIT and I have spoken with him about the several times.
If you had 15 to 20 minutes with him, what would you ask? I have been asking all of the biggest NC fans I know and I would love to hear your thoughts.
onlywhenprovoked 3 years ago 4