Jonathan Kozol: Education in America (4 of 6)

[tannersalley]

Best of the 6 part lecture

"So they can grow beyond ourselves"

[favoritefoods]

Standards and testing make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Education is not a business.

[favoritefoods]

The rich are privileged. It's about poverty.

[bizakis9]

Thank you! It brakes my heart... but I will not stick my head in the sand. Go! Johnathan..

[ybtolerant]

it's heartbreaking, because it's true. All you ignorant naive people can say it isn't there, but it is. Get out of the house and do some research, you'll be surprised.

[jamesharrel]

@ybtolerant

They're not saying it isn't there...they're saying, in the undertow of their "arguments," that it's there, they like it, and they want it to stay that way.

[zwilliamsmil]

Jonathan Kozol is one of my favorites. He keeps it real with America and our policies and practices in education. Sor real that it scary. I am a teacher in the trenches and I appreciate what he says. Excellent !

[VoiceTeacher101]

what does money have to do with how a teacher responds to a student? The poor schools and the rich schools both have to adhere to NCLB. Maybe its not the money, but the teachers at the poor schools that are the problem. My classrooms in high school were 40 kids a classroom and i'm in college.

[glamatomic]

Generally speaking, the better schools in the better areas attract the better teachers. Have you actually ever read any of Kozol's books?

[VoiceTeacher101]

yes, I have read one of his books. His book was more convincing because it looked at specific schools and their lack of funds. Here he is making broad generalizations about how nothing good will come out of classrooms that have 40 students. I agree that a student's education would be much better if the classrooms were smaller, but the classroom size can't take all the blame. That is one good thing about NCLB, it requires that teachers are highly certified to teach.

[LMcCloskey0]

@VoiceTeacher101 i would have to disagree, its much easier to explain something to a group of 20 than a group of 30 and so on. When less students are in classes you have less classroom management problems and can give more time to students who need help. NCLB is just stupid in that its setting standards so high that no one can achieve them, NCLB is just a term set up to make it seem that we are trying, but in reality we are just taking money from schools who need it

[lialia719]

But then it becomes only about taking and passing a test rather than an education. Hope you're not a teacher, or maybe you are studying to be one? If you are, get ready for a big surprise.

[lialia719]

Another thing, perhaps you don't know what benefit you can have with smaller class size because you've never had the chance? Ever think of that one?

[theRedPress]

@VoiceTeacher101 Of course the teachers are part of the problem, they're less qualified, take lower salaries because that's all the school can afford to pay, because it's a poor school. Are you sure you're in college?

[smcuriel]

This was very good, thanks for sharing such great insight and sad experiences. I'm glad someone is talking about this, thank you, THANK YOU!!

[wagechi29]

can't wait to see part 5 and 6.

[blackberryjuice1]

Hear hear, I second that...

[wagechi29]

Kozol seems so sincere. he came to my school but i didn't see the ads so i missed it. i hope mef puts up the other parts soon. have a great weekend.

[leitermann]

What about hinduism? Don't they believe untouchable children are less valuable than those of other castes?

[adeart7]

Yeah all countries seem to have caste systems. Including some societies where everyone is the same race.