@kirokyukan well last I noticed we are all the same planet. There is no longer our cause and their cause. This is just a little tidbit of history. If you prefer to be stuck on stupid and not expand your knowledge and just be stuck on you own little reservation, your choice. Stop reading the book with the pages ripped out.
@ongwehonweh LMAO No you need to stop reading the history books with new pages inserted. Is there a Muslim conection to N. America? Sort of, only by the time they came to America they had already converted from Islam to Christianity. I wonder why are there 13th century Islamic Globes depicting the entire world, but somehow, even though they are claiming to have been here, failed to mention the Americas? Maps too.
@kirokyukan All the video says is that "the Intellectuals", not you or your Nation, "the Intellectuals among the Indians spoke Arabic" and Columbus had two translators. Had to speak to them some how. Guess there were no Intellectuals among the Spanish that spoke Taino or Swa heli.
No mention in here of muslims so I don't understand what you are crying about.
@ongwehonweh Arabic is the language of the Muslim. If you bothered reading actual historical books, you would know that Columbus, after trying unsuccesfully to speak Arabic, initially used sign language to communicate, which I can assure you, albeit sometimes slow and able to be misinterpreted, is a universal form of communication. Give the finger to the Chinese guy at the store, then tell me if he understood. Better yet, go smile at the Muslim at the gas station, see if he knows what it means.
@kirokyukan Arabic was around long before the religion of Mohammad was even created by the Pope. Long before their was even a pope. Should get on my Facebook and see some of the proof, beyond even this topic. Use my e-mail found on my youtube page.
@ongwehonweh Yeah Ive seen alot of their "evidence" already. Perhaps I am seemingly upset over this guy simply claiming the Tainos spoke Arabic. At first I wasnt too critical, but as I researched further I found, Africans claiming to be the original people of the Americas. Then they claim the Cherokee were Muslim, aswell as the Algonquin people. All their proof is circumstantial and can not be verified by any of their own records, which Islam has plenty of.
@ongwehonweh Claiming the Cherokee were Muslim simply based on their Turbans is just stupid. Thats like claiming they were Christian because of their European customs. As for the similarities between Arabic and some Native languages - its simply phonetic. Phonology, which is the proper way of conecting languages through sound, reveal no connection with Native American languages and Arabic, especially the ones considered language isolates.
@ongwehonweh Your right this video says nothing about the Cherokee, however its all part of the same theory. Cocaine mummies, big nosed Olmec statues, Turban wearing Cherokee and the supposed Arabic inscriptions they claim to have found throughout N. America are the same arguments used by the "Freedman" to claim their "indigenous" to the Americas. Personally I like to believe the history that was written in historic times instead of new revelations revealed on YT.
LMAO!!! No the Tainos spoke Swa heli - I have the document at home. LMAO!!! I wonder why we didnt have any of their technology if there was any truth to this??? No Horses. No Camels. No Turbins. No Koran. It only took a few years for the Columbian exchange to change the way we lived, but some how the Arabs snuck in here - didnt bother writhing about it, then left with out a trace??? Perhaps it was Hebrew which is similar to Arabic and the Mormons are right. LMFAO!!!
@kirokyukan I'm sure they did speak Swa heli. He said the intellects spoke Arabic, not everyone. The Penzone brothers were Moors (some say Syrian Arabs) and they captained at least two of Columbus' ships. They been coming here long before Columbus, to trade and vice-a-versa, they knew their way around the Caribbean.
Ani-Yun-Wiya misnomer Cherokee wore Turbans, plus many other People. He never mention religion just Language. Just pushing the invaders agenda that we were too stupid to sail.
@ongwehonweh The Pinzón brothers were anything but Moors or Arabs. Their contemporary portraits all depict pale faces, and their names are clearly Christian names. Born in the Huvela province, in the town of Palos de la Frontera, Spain to Martín Pinzón and their mother Mayor Vicente. If they knew their way around the Caribbean the Santa Maria would have never run aground.
@kirokyukan Ever notice they kinda bleach out many people in their paintings. So-called King Hendrick's, Elizabeth I was even dark skinned. You know they lie to everyone, about everything including HIS-story. Don't just argue about it if you haven't researched it.
@ongwehonweh I've researched it. And I agree that history has been altered, but what your saying is that our elders were to incompetent to keep our oral traditions. I wonder why our Arab allies never bothered helping us? Even after the Crusades were over they still didnt bother. Why? Cause they never knew us.
@ongwehonweh Fucking Muslims are trying to play on the tragedy that befell our people, and your falling for it. Why didnt they keep any records? Why do they reference Christian accounts of their exporation of the Americas and not their own??? Why did they need "Indian" guides and not just use moorish slaves instead?
@ongwehonweh Cherokee oral traditon and history, tells us the Cherokee began to wear turbans after being brought before the King of England. After dressing them in some clothes left behind by a delegation from India. Upon their return these items were treasured and continued to be worn by the Cherokee Chiefs Mankiller, Stalking Turkey, and Little Carpenter.
@ongwehonweh Seminoles arent even Precolumbian - they are a bastard tribe of indigenous and African slaves. Tuscarora and Cherokee were neighbours, so of course they would have similar customs. Tribes as far away as Mexico practice the mushroom ceremony without turbans. Cherokee chief Outacite(Mankiller) is almost never shown wearing a turban and the portraits that depict him wearing a turban show an aged man. Cherokee head dress are not even tied the same way and look nothing like Arab turbans.
@ongwehonweh Who said we were too stupid too sail? We had no need to sail even by this false Arab account which claims West African Muslims sailed here, but never even eludes to the possibility that we sailed there. How is it that the columbian exchange changed our way of life through out the Americas within 100 yrs, but the Arabs never had any impact? Our diet was quickly adopted by the European, but Arabia to this day has little to no American Agriculture? What were they trading, words?
@kirokyukan What would anyone need to sail for? They have corn across the water and tobacco. This guy never said Original People here didn't sail or cross over. Arabs were under siege and occupation as well and none of the books People here might have wrote exists to my knowledge. This video is only small fraction of the puzzle. Check out stuff Meredith Quinn (Dakota) researched on my Facebook.
@ongwehonweh Yes but hes not claiming Tainos could sail either. Why the hell would the Taino need to sail for corn - they had their own agriculture. Africans were under siege, Arabs were kicking ass at this time and had just captured Europes most wealthy city Contstantinople. It was this action that drove the Europeans to seek other routes. 3 pre columbian Mayan codices survived the bookburnings of the Christians, and none say anything about Muslims.
This is offensive pretentious bullshit!
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You need to stick with our cause instead of taking up theirs.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan well last I noticed we are all the same planet. There is no longer our cause and their cause. This is just a little tidbit of history. If you prefer to be stuck on stupid and not expand your knowledge and just be stuck on you own little reservation, your choice. Stop reading the book with the pages ripped out.
ongwehonweh 11 months ago
@ongwehonweh LMAO No you need to stop reading the history books with new pages inserted. Is there a Muslim conection to N. America? Sort of, only by the time they came to America they had already converted from Islam to Christianity. I wonder why are there 13th century Islamic Globes depicting the entire world, but somehow, even though they are claiming to have been here, failed to mention the Americas? Maps too.
kirokyukan 11 months ago
@kirokyukan All the video says is that "the Intellectuals", not you or your Nation, "the Intellectuals among the Indians spoke Arabic" and Columbus had two translators. Had to speak to them some how. Guess there were no Intellectuals among the Spanish that spoke Taino or Swa heli.
No mention in here of muslims so I don't understand what you are crying about.
ongwehonweh 11 months ago
@ongwehonweh Arabic is the language of the Muslim. If you bothered reading actual historical books, you would know that Columbus, after trying unsuccesfully to speak Arabic, initially used sign language to communicate, which I can assure you, albeit sometimes slow and able to be misinterpreted, is a universal form of communication. Give the finger to the Chinese guy at the store, then tell me if he understood. Better yet, go smile at the Muslim at the gas station, see if he knows what it means.
kirokyukan 11 months ago
@kirokyukan Arabic was around long before the religion of Mohammad was even created by the Pope. Long before their was even a pope. Should get on my Facebook and see some of the proof, beyond even this topic. Use my e-mail found on my youtube page.
ongwehonweh 11 months ago
@ongwehonweh Yeah Ive seen alot of their "evidence" already. Perhaps I am seemingly upset over this guy simply claiming the Tainos spoke Arabic. At first I wasnt too critical, but as I researched further I found, Africans claiming to be the original people of the Americas. Then they claim the Cherokee were Muslim, aswell as the Algonquin people. All their proof is circumstantial and can not be verified by any of their own records, which Islam has plenty of.
kirokyukan 11 months ago
@ongwehonweh Claiming the Cherokee were Muslim simply based on their Turbans is just stupid. Thats like claiming they were Christian because of their European customs. As for the similarities between Arabic and some Native languages - its simply phonetic. Phonology, which is the proper way of conecting languages through sound, reveal no connection with Native American languages and Arabic, especially the ones considered language isolates.
kirokyukan 11 months ago
@kirokyukan Claiming the Cherokee are Muslim has nothing to do with this video. Like I said go to my FB page. Check my notes, pics and vids.
ongwehonweh 11 months ago
@ongwehonweh Your right this video says nothing about the Cherokee, however its all part of the same theory. Cocaine mummies, big nosed Olmec statues, Turban wearing Cherokee and the supposed Arabic inscriptions they claim to have found throughout N. America are the same arguments used by the "Freedman" to claim their "indigenous" to the Americas. Personally I like to believe the history that was written in historic times instead of new revelations revealed on YT.
kirokyukan 11 months ago
LMAO!!! No the Tainos spoke Swa heli - I have the document at home. LMAO!!! I wonder why we didnt have any of their technology if there was any truth to this??? No Horses. No Camels. No Turbins. No Koran. It only took a few years for the Columbian exchange to change the way we lived, but some how the Arabs snuck in here - didnt bother writhing about it, then left with out a trace??? Perhaps it was Hebrew which is similar to Arabic and the Mormons are right. LMFAO!!!
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan I'm sure they did speak Swa heli. He said the intellects spoke Arabic, not everyone. The Penzone brothers were Moors (some say Syrian Arabs) and they captained at least two of Columbus' ships. They been coming here long before Columbus, to trade and vice-a-versa, they knew their way around the Caribbean.
Ani-Yun-Wiya misnomer Cherokee wore Turbans, plus many other People. He never mention religion just Language. Just pushing the invaders agenda that we were too stupid to sail.
ongwehonweh 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh The Pinzón brothers were anything but Moors or Arabs. Their contemporary portraits all depict pale faces, and their names are clearly Christian names. Born in the Huvela province, in the town of Palos de la Frontera, Spain to Martín Pinzón and their mother Mayor Vicente. If they knew their way around the Caribbean the Santa Maria would have never run aground.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan Ever notice they kinda bleach out many people in their paintings. So-called King Hendrick's, Elizabeth I was even dark skinned. You know they lie to everyone, about everything including HIS-story. Don't just argue about it if you haven't researched it.
ongwehonweh 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh I've researched it. And I agree that history has been altered, but what your saying is that our elders were to incompetent to keep our oral traditions. I wonder why our Arab allies never bothered helping us? Even after the Crusades were over they still didnt bother. Why? Cause they never knew us.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh Fucking Muslims are trying to play on the tragedy that befell our people, and your falling for it. Why didnt they keep any records? Why do they reference Christian accounts of their exporation of the Americas and not their own??? Why did they need "Indian" guides and not just use moorish slaves instead?
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh Cherokee oral traditon and history, tells us the Cherokee began to wear turbans after being brought before the King of England. After dressing them in some clothes left behind by a delegation from India. Upon their return these items were treasured and continued to be worn by the Cherokee Chiefs Mankiller, Stalking Turkey, and Little Carpenter.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan did Skarora (Tuscarora) and Seminoles go too. Turbans are worn by people who know the Mushrooms for ceremony.
ongwehonweh 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh Seminoles arent even Precolumbian - they are a bastard tribe of indigenous and African slaves. Tuscarora and Cherokee were neighbours, so of course they would have similar customs. Tribes as far away as Mexico practice the mushroom ceremony without turbans. Cherokee chief Outacite(Mankiller) is almost never shown wearing a turban and the portraits that depict him wearing a turban show an aged man. Cherokee head dress are not even tied the same way and look nothing like Arab turbans.
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh Who said we were too stupid too sail? We had no need to sail even by this false Arab account which claims West African Muslims sailed here, but never even eludes to the possibility that we sailed there. How is it that the columbian exchange changed our way of life through out the Americas within 100 yrs, but the Arabs never had any impact? Our diet was quickly adopted by the European, but Arabia to this day has little to no American Agriculture? What were they trading, words?
kirokyukan 1 year ago
@kirokyukan What would anyone need to sail for? They have corn across the water and tobacco. This guy never said Original People here didn't sail or cross over. Arabs were under siege and occupation as well and none of the books People here might have wrote exists to my knowledge. This video is only small fraction of the puzzle. Check out stuff Meredith Quinn (Dakota) researched on my Facebook.
ongwehonweh 1 year ago
@ongwehonweh Yes but hes not claiming Tainos could sail either. Why the hell would the Taino need to sail for corn - they had their own agriculture. Africans were under siege, Arabs were kicking ass at this time and had just captured Europes most wealthy city Contstantinople. It was this action that drove the Europeans to seek other routes. 3 pre columbian Mayan codices survived the bookburnings of the Christians, and none say anything about Muslims.
kirokyukan 1 year ago