Halleluhia Praise Jehovah Acapella Church of Christ

[BBKlima]

Glad to hear! I have been a member of the Lord's church since I was 11. Not a fan of praise groups so hearing a congregation sound as good as yours without them proves they are unnecessary.

[church0fchrist]

@BBKlima Super! That is an uplifting comment. I pray God's blessings on you and your church family!

[BBKlima]

Do you guys use praise groups? The parts sound too distinct for that spread out of a crowd.

[church0fchrist]

@BBKlima That's a nice compliment! Since we have been following the new testament pattern for music in worship, we all sing as commanded, we sound distinct. We are singing several harmony parts that are written out in our song book. But no there is no separate praise group. thank you.

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist but you said singing was praise.. thats different than worship

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 Singing is praise and worship. Guidelines for that can be found in the new testament.

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist (I'm Back) Matthew 5:17-19. Psalm 150 (Entire Chapter), Psalm 149:3. SO, explain to me how this is wrong. I am getting some serious vibes from Matthew 7:15

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 It's really simple. Mt 5:17-19 says he fulfilled the old law. The old law says the new law is coming (it came) and that we will be under it (we now are). Psalm 150 is the OT which we are no longer under. In fact if we keep part of the old law we are bound to keep all of it. So if you justify inst. by the OT then you must offer burnt sacrifices etc. Read Romans 7 regarding trying to live under two laws - the OT vs the NT.

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist Psalms 33 verse 1: REJOICE in the Lord, O ye righteous for praise is comely for the upright. Verse 2: Praise the Lord with Harp: sing unto him with the psaltery and an instrument of ten strings. Verse 3: Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise. Verse 4: For the word of the Lord is RIGHT; and ALL his works are done in truth!!!!!!!!!!!!

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 Ezra 3:3 And they set the altar upon his bases; for fear was upon them because of the people of those countries: and they offered burnt offerings thereon unto the LORD, even burnt offerings morning and evening. I can quote OT laws too. Does that mean you will try to keep them as well?

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist No, not under the new covenant. In matthew 5;17 it says; Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill: 18; For verily I say unto you, Till Heaven an Earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no way pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19; (summed up) if you teach to break these commandments, you will be called least in heaven, if you follow and teach them, you will be called great in heaven. continued

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist the laws that passed and were meant to no longer be accounted for and were fullfilled, and were mentioned in the New Testament under the new resolution. It's all about how you view them, and practice them, as told in Gal:5. If you are trying to follow these laws and commandments in order to try and gain salvation (like they did in the OT), or trying to make yourself seem more Godly than others, God will definitely not honor that. But if you are doing it under

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist personal conviction or just following what the Bible says, where is the issue there, because it in no way conflicts with the word.

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist and also, those verses in Psalm talk about praise, and show me where praise was ever changed, because all of the burnt sacrifices and laws were part of worship.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 How is it that you think praise and worship differ? singing songs of praise to God is an act of worship. A new testament commanded act of worship. The old law was fulfilled. The new law is what we are under. Singing is the only new testament sanctioned music. The old law was fulfilled when Christ died. The "imperfect passed away." It's this simple we are commanded to sing. Adding instruments is saying you know better how God wants to be worshiped. Yet he already told us how

[mrhaney95]

Matthew 5:17-19. Psalm 150 & 149:3 So, explain to me how this is wrong.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 It's wrong because we are under the new law. The new testament is our only guide for CHRISTIAN life. The Jews were under the OT law. If we try to keep part of the old law were are bound to all of it. We are not to pick one element from the old and practice it. Would it be ok if I came to where you worship and offered a burnt sacrifice? That's just another OT authorized worship. The bottom line really is we are commanded to sing. We are not commanded to play instruments.

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist basically what im saying about instruments is that it is not a sinful practice.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 Okay, understood. What that means is you disregard what God has asked us to do regarding musical worship. Rev 22:18 warns against adding to the scripture. Lev 10:1 shows where God killed nadab and Abihu for changing the way they worshiped God only a "little" from the way he said to worship. John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." You have the spirit part right but not the truth or the true way we are instructed to worship.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 It really is about respecting the authority of scripture. Everything I do in worship can be backed up by scripture. Therefor it follows the "spirit and truth" found in John 4:24. So what I have to ask next is are you sure it's not sinful? If so what do you base that on?

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist We were told to do so. David said to praise his name in the in the dance, and to sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp. (Musical instruments) (Psalm 149:3)

[mrhaney95]

Sorry.. im trying to be civil. Psalm 150:4 and a bunch of verses talk about using instruments AND singing. You are right about most people not going to heaven: the preaching of "faith alone" and "acceptance" are biblically incorrect. Works are necessary. John 3, Acts 2, Mark 16, etc

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 :) The OT also talks about animal sacrifices and not eating cloven hoofed animals too. It talks about burning incense, priests and lots of items of worship that we are not commanded or authorized to do. So the OT is never a guide for the NT church that Christ started. it really is as simple as look at the new testament pattern for the Church that Christ started and follow that guide. When we sing we are doing that. If you play instruments you are not. YES! Faith without works is dead!

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist youre basically saying we all go to hell. But we sing

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist in the OT circumcision was part of gaining salvation. How is there no way of salvation? You're ridiculous.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 Sorry, What I mean is that we can't earn salvation. As in it's a free gift. And actually most people aren't going to heaven. Matthew 7:14 You didn't respond to the following. "The facts remain that instruments in worship are an idea of men, that we are only commanded to sing, and that instruments are a recent addition. We know from scripture that singing pleases God. The same cannot be said about instruments. I know it's shocking. But those are simply the facts."

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 There was no remission of sins in the OT. Only rolling back of sins with the blood of animal sacrifices. The "you're ridiculous" statement is getting out of line. Try to remain cool. If we simply use the bible as our guide we learn what pleases God and how to serve him. This truly is a study that we AND those reading can benefit from.

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist *with the divine intention

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist actually, it is saying that if you follow the laws divine intention of gaining salvation, then you are cursed to follow all of them. AND the music thing isnt a law in the first place. But im not gonna argue about it, have a good day.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 The circumcision was an OT law. The OT has nothing to do with gaining salvation. We can not gain salvation period. We are commanded to sing in Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 3:16. It is therefore a law. The facts remain that instruments in worship are an idea of men, that we are only commanded to sing, and that instruments are a recent addition. We know from scripture that singing pleases God. The same cannot be said about instruments. I know it's shocking. But those are simply the facts.

[church0fchrist]

The introduction of musical instruments is VERY recent in most denominations. Towards the end of the 19th century. Baptists, Presbyterians, and many others were resistant to it at first. Most caved. The Church that Christ started can be identified by it's practices using the early Church as a guide. Christ died for his body, his bride. I encourage anyone at a crossroads to search the bible. Conform your worship to the NT pattern. If the church you worship with doesn't conform find HIS Church!

[mrhaney95]

@church0fchrist so, as far as your interpretation of Gal 5:3, are you saying to disregard the entire OT? Thats nothing but foolish.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 Absolutely not. According to Rom 1;27 the OT was "written for our learning" We can learn the nature of God, that the OT was fulfilled, and that we are under the new perfect law - NT. I cor 13:10 "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." The perfect law , the NT, came! Gal 5:3 is clear that if you go by part of the OT you are bound to keep it all. I did send a message through youtube with more in depth info.

[mrhaney95]

How can you call this praise? Sitting down? Really? No prayer? Music? Instruments were played for God frequently throughout the OT.

[church0fchrist]

@mrhaney95 We can call it praise because God calls it praise in the bible, the only authority we have. Sometimes we stand. In 6/10 of these videos we are standing. Yes we prayed several times during this worship. There is music. It is a capella. That is the only music commanded in the NT which we are bound by. Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 3:16, We know it is pleasing to God as that is the ONLY commanded music in the NT. According to Gal 5:3 if we keep part of the old we are bound to keep it all.

[michaeldj5]

Wow. I grew up in the Church of Christ as a preacher's son. They made me go every Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night from the time I was born till I was 18. I used to lead singing, wait on the Lord's Table and everything. And now...I am an out and proud gay man. That's an incredible change! So many stuck-up, mean-spirited people in that church, I must say.

[church0fchrist]

@michaeldj5 This is really sad Michael. "They made you go" That's your good Christian parents doing their parental duty. I can't help but wonder if the people you think are stuck up and mean are telling you the truth. That your behavior hurts you emotionally, physically, spiritually and ultimately permanently unless you turn. God doesn't call sin sin so that we will miss out on fun or be miserable. Just the opposite in fact! God loves you and tells us what is sin so we can avoid it and be happy!

[michaeldj5]

@church0fchrist Thank you for the kind, eye-opening words. I think I will start going to church on Sunday mornings at the closest Church of Christ again. Ahahahahahahaha! Just joking! ;-)

[church0fchrist]

@michaeldj5 So sad that you laugh at the prospect of being away from God eternally. Did you just lose your belief altogether? God is so good that I want to be in his presence. I mean sure the fear of hell is a motivator but my love for and awe of God is more motivating. Do you just not believe or just not care?

[michaeldj5]

@church0fchrist I'm so sorry that you're so sad and hurt by my words. I didn't mean to upset you or cause any grief or consternation. Talk to God about it. He'll help you through this trying time in your life. Buuut...since you are clearly an oracle at judging people's immortal souls into or out of heaven, can I get your eternal judgement on a couple of people that I know who still attend the Church of Christ? I don't like them and I want the scoop on their destiny. Peace. :-)

[church0fchrist]

@michaeldj5 Your sarcasm shows more scarring. I sure will talk to God about this. I will ask for guidance. It doesn't take any "seeing inside your heart" to know that you are in danger of losing your soul. By your own admittance you are "out and proud" gay. I don't judge at that point. when you admit that you live in sin it is clear where you stand. I cor 6:9, Rom 1:27. Of course it's not too late until you die or Christ returns. So you didn't answer the question. Did you lose your belief?

[michaeldj5]

@church0fchrist Why do you think I lost my belief? I don't understand where you get that opinion. I have no doubt in God's love for me.  You are coming across as someone who just wants to win an argument. I bet you really don't care one iota about me personally. Of course, you have to say you do, but...I know your type from the Church of Christ very well. You just want to "feel right." I bet you're very arrogant in many, many aspects ofyour life as well. You'll answer for that! :-)

[church0fchrist]

@michaeldj5 I reread my comments and can't see where you get the arrogance much less argumentative. I'm sorry you get that. The reason I ask IF you lost your belief is because you said you are proud to be gay. That is clearly against several scriptures including I cor 6:9, Rom 1:27. I do care more for you because you once knew the truth. Right is never about "feeling" it's about knowing though study. Are you saying you still believe? Do you just not care then? That is a sincere question.

[MalarkyDude145]

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[abrahambelove]

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[firefighter40ish]

i sounded firm and am sorry lol after i read how i put it sorry for that lol but yes we sing to edify ourselves , one another and praise God with it of course . I do hear alot of ppl give their opinions on the Bible and on what this or that means meaning we need to becareful on what we hear and test what we hear according to the Bible and im just generally speaking for we should say to ourselves ..... what does the bible say about such -n- such . we have no auth. to do what we want in worsh.

[firefighter40ish]

i must comment on the singing . a statement made said we dont sing to edify ourselves . yes were suppose to read col 3:16 edify is to admonish or encourage .

[MrJwile]

Beautiful! Beautiful! Beautiful! Teaching and admonishing one another in songs, hyms and spiritual songs.

[teresababe87]

Sounds so good.

[UnrealTerminator20]

I attend the Arnold Church of Christ. Thanks for uploading.

[bluegrassbaby86]

There is a Church of Christ preacher that comes on my favorite radio station at six o'clock in the morning, and I wish he would use y'all's singing for his intro and closing rather than that classical-sounding choir he uses.

[firefighter40ish]

God doesnt care what we think . either we obey whats is written or we dont . we have no authority on whether things are sinning or not . he already said what was sin .

[church0fchrist]

@firefighter40ish perfect!

[KaycieStarlight71]

@firefighter40ish That is correct, sin is not a matter of opinion. We will be judged according to the Bible whether we read it or not. I choose to read mine instead of trusting mankind's opinion, nor my own, for I know sincerity alone is not obedience.

[Deloa7Armando]

Jah and Jehovah are guessed names and they are not the name of God. Jahs root word is IAH which is moon god. Unless they repent to be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ they are worshipping the moon god.

[brotherfrank62]

Clearing up the misunderstanding about tithing in today's New Testament Church.

[Darrell1019]

There are Christians in VA? Wouldn't they be corrupted being so close to D.C.?

[brotherfrank62]

All thing's work out for the good of those who love the Lord who's called according to his purpose!

[alemap65]

There is no greater instrument than the one God hath created. No man made instuments can proclaim the glory of Christ or "improve" what he hath created. To add to it is to take away from it . Where one is talented to play an instrument serves to detract from the glory and praise to God t and directs attention to the talents of man.

[alemap65]

There is no greater instrument than the one God hath created. No man made instuments can proclaim the glory of Christ or "improve" what he hath created. To add to it is to take away from it . Where one is talented to play an instrument serves to detract from the glory and praise to God t and directs attention to the talents of one man alone.

[montycunningham]

very nice praise the Lord

[church0fchrist]

@JehovahUnmasked There are no Jehovah's witnesses here. were are simply Christians. No more, no less.

[ryod06]

I am proud to be an ACAPELLA CHUCH OF CHRIST member... here in the Philippines

[mzkimistry]

The church began on the day of pentecost, 33 A.D.... And as for the scripture u wanted abt receiving the Holy Ghost.. Acts 2:38 says repent and b baptized evry one of you n the name o jesus christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift if the Holy Ghost.. I truely hope this helps.. b blessed

[mzkimistry]

As a member of the church of christ please allow me to shed some light.. First, Jesus is the founder of the church of christ, which is y it carries His name...jesus christ said in matt 16:18 "i will build MY church" the scripture only speaks but ONE church, "there is one body.." eph 4:4, " he is the head of the body, the church..." col. 1:18

[mandashouse]

No need to speak without love in your heart for people who are doing what they truly believe is what God wants. Study and do what you believe and respect others beliefs also, or they will not respect yours. Love, love, love, God is love.

[neanderpaul]

@Mandashouse, when you love people and their souls as we are commanded you will tell them the truth. Many people who do what they truly belive will be lost. ... Lord lord did we not prophecy in thy name .... Etc etc. Depart from me I never knew you.

[latabanza]

They believe a lie! They will believe it all the way to their grave and into and through the gates of hell!

[latabanza]

The word is clear when dealing with people who subvert the truth.I will not stand by and respect that my relatives are trpped in this dangerous religeon.What an absurd suggestion.If your family was in a burning building and I told you to just leave them?

I grew up in the CofC Orangevale,Mariposa,rancho cordova,may St. I could tell you of the sexual sins that went on there.Molestation, cheating on wives,drinking and smoking, and major back bitting.I heard more people put other CofC people down,

[theseekerndestroyer]

i talk to god in my sleep and he says you dont have to go to any church to go to heaven. as long as you are a good person. god also says every church are all fake and spill blood in his name. he is ashamed of all church people for all their sin and cruelty they do to others. face it, every wars are based on religion and belief.

[latabanza]

It is so so sad that the CofC is blind to the truth.they are missing out on the Holy Spirit and the annointing.They say they got the Holy Spirit when they got baptized.You can say that, but that is not scripture.Whenyou show them scripture that contridicts thier teachings, they say that you have to know who is talking and who they are talking to.Rationalizing it away so not to deal with it.

I kmow how bad they are, I grew up in that mess.Praise God I got saved out of it,

[neanderpaul]

latabanza, try using scripture to back your claims. Salvation is not about emotion. God speaks to us through his inspired word. John 8:32 Ye shall KNOW the truth and the truth shall set you free. It's a feeling. It reading believing seeing and knowing.

[latabanza]

realy.Salvation is not about emotion.I know that is what the CofC teaches but tell that to Jesus when he was weeping and bleeding for mine and your sins.Love is an emotion.The move of the Holy Spirit is an emotion.You sing with emotion.

Anytime you want to debate me on any Bible issue, just name the place.I'll start with the fact that Alexander capbell who founded the Cofc was a baptist who never was baptised in the CofC yet he reformed the church.

[txleelee]

@latabanza ..I am a proud church of Christ member. Alexander Campbell founded the Disciples of Christ,not the Church of Christ. He was the son of a Presbyterian minister. Did not agree with "sprinkling" as a form of baptizing...he believed in full immersion and was fully immersed when baptized. The Baptist did not agree with his teachings and excluded him and his followers. Not sure where you get your info,but what your posting is incorrect. God Bless!

[TakaraStarChan]

@latabanza I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Love is not emotion...it is a force. Jesus did die on the cross....and went through serious pain. Emotions, in a way, is something you can't help. Love is something you decide to do. In the bible, love is something that is described as something you decide to do(such as when it's talking about marriage). God decided to love us because He made us...even though we are poor, horrible sinners. Love is a choice and an action. God could have just let us be c

[TakaraStarChan]

@latabanza ondemned us to no salvation. But God made the choice because He cared for us to send His son. If love were merely a feeling as you suggest, how is it that even though you feel such anger towards certain people in your family, and you certainly don't "feel" like you love them, but you'd still do anything for them? You're certainly not going to always feel lovey dovey towards a spouse are you? No...there is no perfect relationship. There will always be some issues that will come up. But

[TakaraStarChan]

@latabanza no matter what we do, no matter how horrible we can be, God will still be there if our heart is open to Him, and you ask for forgiveness. That is unconditional love. I believe feelings can be a result of love...and I'm not denying that Jesus went through a lot of emotion...but love goes much deeper than that.

[UHC4LYFE]

Glory to Jesus! I am glad you got out too. I have been approached by several old line COC people who told me that I was bound for Hell because I was not COC. They would not even refer to me as "brother" even though I assured them I was saved, because I was not COC. They think that their "dry" brand of musicless and souless religion is THE only way to Heaven. I feel sorry for them! I'm so glad Jesus NEVER said come to Christianity; but HE said come unto ME, all ye that labor and are heavy laden.!

[latabanza]

thanks for the props. we are so blessed to be out.I tell people that I got saved out of the CofC and that is the truth.I could not see the dangerous bondage when I was in it until 1 day the blinders came off.I found that they worked really hard at trying to disprove the power of God(2Timothy3:5) wrather than to talk of His power.After I first got out I thought they had a few truths, now I know they are a straight up cult.I pray for friends and relatives still bound in the church of christ.

[UHC4LYFE]

I will pray and be in agreement with you for your family and friends that are still apart of that organization. I am again so glad that Jesus has opened yours eyes that you may see glimpses of truth He has for thee, He has placed in your hand a wonderful key, that has unclasped and set you FREE! Just be patient, keep the faith and hold to God's unchanging hand until HE delivers those who are dear to you. I also pray that the COC will repent and preach the saving truth of God's love! Be Blessed!!

[Squoshua17]

Perhaps you should read Paul's letter's to Timothy. He actually makes a comparison between "water saving Noah" to "the water of Baptism saving us(Christians) now". Furthermore, the CofC doesn't dismiss scripture as you apparently do. Tell you what... When you can point out a BLATENT discrepency between what the CofC does in worship and what is described in biblical text, let me know. You do realize that the majority of what Paul wrote in the NT was SCOLDING people for not worshipping right?

[jesselovesguitar]

the OT prophets didn't have athority from God to have instruments...i'm 17 and even i know about athority...:)

in christian love Jesse Winn, Arab alabama

[LOGICvsYTIDIOTS]

Jesse, Old Testament Saints DID have tio authority to use music in worship to God. In fact both singing and music is one of the HIGHEST forms of worship to our Father in Heaven in BOTH the New and Old Testament. But regarding your comment in the OT, here was their authority. Study these scriptures. 1 Chron. 15:16,28; 23:5; 25:6; In 2 Chron. 29:25, musicians were placed in the house of the Lord by the COMMANDMENT OF THE LORD. Ezra 3:10-12; Neh. 12:27; Psalms 150. I will comment later on NT auth.

[rocscandi]

the church of christ sings with only their voices. there is no need for instruments to praise the lord.

[markmike09]

loppedoffhead, I agree you are speaking the truth according to the scriptures. Church of Christ, Chicago IL.

[JesusIsMyFriend777]

I'm sad for you guys. Our church group evangelises using our guitars and other instruments, which always draws a good crowd. I know for a fact God blesses our ministry. You should try it, you might even loosen up a little! God bless.

[loppedoffhead]

So JesusIsMyFriend777, what you are saying is that you are sad we as Christians are worshiping God in song the way he specifically asked us to in Colossians 3:16 and Ephesians 5:19. Ouch! It makes me sad that you feel you know better than God what God wants from his followers. There are countless ways you can change worship from the way God laid it out clearly in scripture that will draw more people. That will never make it ok to add to the scriptures. Add a crew of dancers. Where would it end?

[JesusIsMyFriend777]

Adding a crew of dancers is a wonderful idea. However people choose to worship God is righteous. God looks at the heart, not the form (or in your case, lack thereof) of worship. I have seen many praise sessions with dancers uplifting praise to God and Christ.

[loppedoffhead]

JesusIsMyFriend777 If you can't find it in the scriptures then it is not a wonderful idea. It is adding to the bible which is of course against revelations 22:18. When you say our worship has lack of form you are saying God's way is wrong as this is the way God showed us to worship in his inspired word. Do you really think you know better than God how God wants to worshiped? To be pleasing we must look to scriptures. Luke 6:46 And why call you me, Lord, Lord and do not the things which I say?

[spindiamond]

Why is everyone sitting so far apart? Did the town run out of deodorant?

[ShushLorraine]

This is one of my favorite songs - it's practically word for word Psalm 148. It's the only song that I know of that was this way when I was a little girl in the 60s and 70s.

[dennreed23]

Ephesian 5:19 and Col. 3:16 states that we christians should SING not PLAY musical instruments. The Literal Meaning of Singing is to sing with the use of VOCAL CHORDS. it also applies in the command in Col. 3:16 and Eph. 5:19

[littlewebkinzluv232]

Dennreed, you are adding to God's word, which is a horrible sin. The Scriptures say we are to sing; it does NOT say that we "should not play musical instruments." Please don't put words in God's mouth.

I have been a c-of-C member for 20 years. I sometimes visit my mom's Methodist congregation, where they use a piano, organ, and sometimes horns. If harmony is made in the heart, then the Scripture is fulfilled, God is praised, and the singer and listener are edified.

[dennreed23]

brother, I did not add words because I know what will happen to me. it is also a command in I Cor. 4:6, what I did is to emphasize that singing is singing and playing is playing, but I would like to thank you for the reminder, May the Lord God bless you for being faithful to His word. I am also a member of the Lord's church

[thepleased]

Close.... , PSALMS a striking, twanging and striking the chords of an instrument! What instrument? The heart Ephesians 5:19

If he wanted us to play an instrument other than the heart hew would have told us to.

This practice of singing is scripturally sound,

[marnold10021987]

I am a Church of Christ member, and I have actually heard a sermon on why there is no musical instruments and it makes sense. However, even if you don't agree with this view, God wants us to praise him with song with whatever ability we have, and that is always the most important. I personally like it accapella because then you can really hear the harmony and see how well the church can work together to praise God.

[wrangler22202]

Well, whether He is displeased with instruments or not, could we agree that voices harmonizing (to Psalm 148) are a beautiful gift from God?

[siroma80]

Long singing means brainwashing.

[maryleejones]

Make a joyful noise unto the Lord!!

[beckyhalstead]

I would just like to comment on musical instruments as a part of worship. I have been Church of Christ my entire life. I've looked around and I go back...in part because I love the accapella music. I am edified by it. I love to sing. That said. I don't believe for one minute that folks who are edified by music that includes the use of musical instruments are wrong..or...sinning. I think we all need to be careful about finding ways that we are different and using it to batter each other.

[50heaven]

@beckyhalstead Thank you

[KaycieStarlight71]

@beckyhalstead Sharing truth is not battering. We do not worship to edify ourselves but to edify God. God is the only audience of our worship- therefore it should be done His way. I like music as well, but it is not part of New T worship any more than the many other things that took place in Old Testament worship. It does not match the pattern God layed out- in the Old T things were done physically that are done spiritually in the New T. He only accepts those who worship in spirit and in TRUTH.

[joeduck92]

ok, to reply some of the comments i read: in Psalms people did use instruments in their worship, and as "sp0ngychicken" said, that instruction no longer applies because it is the old law. however, that doesnt mean we should get rid of the old testament completely. In 2nd Timothy 3:16, Paul tells us that, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable, for reproof, for corection, for instruction in righteousness".

[ddankis]

may I ask why is it that Church of Christ doesnt believe in using instruments in worship?

[church0fchrist]

Speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord (Ephesians 5:19).

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord (Colossians 3:16).

[church0fchrist]

Why do some churches teach that it is wrong to use musical instruments to accompany our singing during Christian worship assemblies when the above verses don't precisely forbid it?

[church0fchrist]

I think most will agree that God has specifically instructed (even "commanded") Christians to sing as part of the worship that He expects (even "demands"). Since He has not commanded nor even suggested to us to play musical instruments in worship, we can be absolutely certain that if we don't use musical instruments, then He will be pleased with Christians singing if their worship comes from the heart.

[ddankis]

I agree but psalms tells us to use instruments. However, as you said, I dont think God is displeased if we use or do not use instruments to accompany our singing in worship, once it is coming from the heart and it is holy unto Him. That is the important thing. Cause this sounds real good, just as how the others with instruments sound good too. So all judgment should be left to God Almighty the only Just Judge.

[sp0ngychicken]

If you remember Psalms is part of the old testament which we learn history from but the new testament is the new law set for us by the blood of Christ and what did away with the old testament. The new testament says for us to sing his praises with our lips and from our heart which is our internal instrument the Lord provided us with.

[sp0ngychicken]

Also if we want to talk about the old testament, Cain and Abel both gave offerings to God, but God found favour in Abel because he gave the offering that was pleasing to God. Cain gave the offering that was pleasing to himself which was a lovely offering to recieve BUT was NOT what The Lord asked for. (Back in those days an offering to the Lord was the shedding of an animals blood, the best animal they owned). We need to do what the lord wants us to do and not what is pleasing to ourselves.

[ddankis]

Ok then. so that means the old testament should be disregarded then. So you guys only use the new testament to teach, preach and live from. Ok thats good for you. Well I believe in the whole Bible as the Word of God and that is what I live by. I am not condemning you and your style of worship, thats what you have chosen and I have chosen to use instruments to worship. So let God the Righteous Judge be my judge and all judgement be left to Him.

[txael]

First of all, the whole Bible is the word of God, and we believe that. Most churches of Christ don't have instruments out of tradition now a days. It's purely a matter of preference. Neither is more pleasing to God as long as it is from the heart and presented with the right attitude.

[txael]

This is a matter of "adiaphora." Paul talks a lot about this kind of stuff in Romans 15. And by the way, the "weaker and stronger" part is not an endorsement of those labels, he's using terms the church had been using. So while there are things, that are wrong or right (which would deal with false teaching), there is are points on which all Christians may not agree. This is part of the beauty of Christianity. I may not have the same structured quiet time you have, but Christ loves me the same.

[Jzxcv89]

i am a church of christ member we dont disgardot we say tho old law is not what we live by we live by nt but we still teach out of ot but instruments is not in nt it says be filled with spirit if thats how you do it good

[spindiamond]

Man I did not understand that at all. You don't have any capitulation or punctuation!

[LOGICvsYTIDIOTS]

spOngychicken, Christ did not do away with the Old Testament, if so why do we still have it today? Christ came to fulfill the law, not do away with it. His sacrifice put a end to OT sacrifices, NOT how they worship, BIG difference. The law is only found in the books of Exodus-Deut. Psalms is not apart of the law, rather it is a part of the OT, it shows us all (both OT and NT saints) how to worship, especially Psalms 150. No where in Eps. 5 and Col. 3 does it talk about worship services.

[oldnarc]

Logic: I have never read more confusion about the end of the Mosaical Law (all of it) than the one you posted; Paul, inspired of God, told romans that the Law was dead by the body of Christ; col. 2:14-16 (handwriting of the ordinances) was done away with; but the real "kicker" is this: with the changing of the priesthood there was by necessity the changing of the Law and that has happened (Heb. 7:12). Two covenants cannot be inforce at the same time; that's spiritual adultery (Ro. 7:1-4).

[LOGICvsYTIDIOTS]

oldnarc. I didn't say the OT Law was still enforced. Christ fulfilled it at the cross by being the last sacrifice. It was the sacrificial system that was stopped and fulfilled. In regards to singing and using music, that did not change. The Old Testament is divided in 3 sections. The law, the prophets and the psalms. He did not put an end to the OLD TESTAMENT, only the law. Just because the prophetic books and psalms were written as part of the Old testament, it did not make it the law

[oldnarc]

Good evening Logic; good to hear from you; have you ever wondered about the "trip" people have to make BACK to the OT, be it either Law, Poetry or Prophets, to get their mechanical instruments of music? Why is that? Because the NT, the Second Covenant (Heb. 8:7) is silent as a tomb on the mechanical instruments of music; by the way, God knows how to spell "instruments" He did so in 2 Sam. 6:5; by the way, the law and the prophets were TILL John the baptist-Lk.6:16

[TakaraStarChan]

I would also like to mention that in some original manuscripts of the new testament, where it talks about worship in song, it has a word called "psallo", which during the time that it was written "to sing only", "to sing without accompaniment". If that's not proof as to how conduct music in worship, I don't know what is.

[nashbama]

@church0fchrist Psalm 150 - "Praise Him for His mighty deeds, Praise Him according to His excellent greatness. Praise Him with trumpet sound, Praise Him with harp and lyre. Praise Him with timbrel and dancing, Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe. Praise Him with loud cymbals, Praise Him with resounding cymbals. Let everything that has breath praise the Lord."

So if instruments are forbidden when the Bible actually encourages using them, isn't that adding to scripture?

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama The bible encouraged them in the old testament. The old testament also discourages the use as in Amos 6:1 Woe to them....6:5 That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of musick, like David. More importantly we are not under the old law. we are under the new since Christ fulfilled the old and established the new. So like we are not under the old law and don't offer burnt offerings we are not under the old law regarding music. A Capella music is new test.

[nashbama]

@church0fchrist You combined parts of two verses in Amos and changed the meaning. Amos 6:4-5 "You lie on beds adorned with ivory and lounge on your couches,You dine on choice lambs and fattened calves." So does that mean it's discouraging eating meat and having couches?

No where does it say A Capella is a "new test".

The NT doesn't mention instruments, so isn't forbidding instruments adding to scripture?

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama What I did was start in the first verse with the main idea of the passage. Because of limited space I did not quote the whole passage of amos 6:1-5. The" ..." indicated the middle part of the passage. The end result was "woe unto them... invent to themselves instruments of music" I didn't combine though. Just indicated that there was more. The word test at the end of my comment was also abbreviated due to space. It stood for testament. A Capella music is commanded in the new testament

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama There are several places in the old testament that say essentially woe to instruments however the new testament says to sing. That is all that matters as we are now under the new testament. It is all about obedience. If you want to be obedient and worship as God chooses you will sing as prescribed in Ephesians 5:19 and Colossians 3:16. That is where the commands regarding music in worship are found. Adding instruments is just that adding to the scripture.

[nashbama]

@church0fchrist There are several places that say to praise God with instruments. Is it the instruments themselves or how they are used?

Ephesians 5:19 says "make music from your heart to the Lord". Isn't playing an instrument making music? I can't sing, I don't have that talent. I do have the talent to play guitar. I express my heart through my strings more than I could by singing alone. So if I play my guitar to praise God, am I sinning or am I following Ephesians 5:19?

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama There are zero places in the new testament where instruments are commanded to be used. Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord. ... There are no references to instruments there. All references to music in the new testament church that Christ started are Singing only. If you play your guitar in worship you are saying you know better than God how God wants to be worshiped. Nadab and Abihu did that too.

[nashbama]

@church0fchrist Your translation says making melody, mine says making music. Doesn't a guitar make a melody? Doesn't that come from the heart? If I use the talents that God has given me to make a melody in my heart in praise to Him, isn't that what He commanded?

Again, is it a sin for me to play my guitar in worship?

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama Where is the melody to be made? In the heart. What is the instrument? the heart. It says to sing. If you add a guitar you add to the verse. I play guitar, bass, drums, and piano. But I don't play them in worship to God. Why? Because I was told to sing. You can sing. To God your heart's intent outweighs whether you are tone deaf or not. I can tell you that singing is what is required. I would never risk adding anything he didn't request. Burning bulls were a sweet savor to God in the OT

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama The literal translation reads... speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord. Online parallel bible compares about 15 versions including the literal translation. Again it's a matter of submission to God's clear will. It is clear he asked us to sing. It is clear no instruments are commanded. Singing is assuredly pleasing. Playing is not assuredly pleasing. Pray on these ideas. Search the scripture - the authority.

[theiceman9559]

@church0fchrist amen!

[nashbama]

@church0fchrist It changed the meaning of the verse and takes it out of context. The verse isn't condeming instruments, but the lackadaisical and lazy lifestyle of the Israelites at the time. Also, Jesus nor any of His apostles commanded A Capella music.

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama Forbidding adding sounds kind of weird right? Instead it's simply doing what was asked of us. An analogy. I ask a restaurant for a sandwich with meat cheese and tomato. While a chef prepares the sandwich he adds mayo thinking he knows better what I want. His boss says no. Who has added to what I asked for? Did the boss add by reminding the chef what I asked for? I say no. The chef added when he added the mayo. God dictates how we worship him. We simply do what his inspired word says.

[nashbama]

@church0fchrist The problem with the analogy is that the NT does not forbid instruments. No where in the NT does it say the church must sing A Capella. No where does it say that instruments are not allowed. It's simply personal preference. Nothing wrong with A Capella and nothing wrong with having instruments.

[church0fchrist]

@nashbama The problem with thatreasoning is that the new testament did indeed command A Capella when it says singing and then doesn't say playing. Take your reasoning a little further. Would it it be okay to do jumping jacks during the lord's supper? The bible doesn't forbid it. Of course that makes no sense. If the bible was full of "don't do the following" in worship it could never be contained even in thousands of volumes. Again it's doind as we are told. Singing then as we are commanded.

[1tim31617]

Rev...."do not add or take away from the Bible".....it doesn't say nething ab musical instrument worship, therefore we must not add to it jus bc it doesn't blatently say "do not use a guitar"....it specifically says sing

[brentj0hns0n]

The voice is the only instrument made by God.

[nintendofan62]

go god, forever shall your name be exalted

[Brightstar27]

Oh thats very nice.

[ahacinthyaha]

Awesome song I learnt it up here in the States I am leaving in here for a while I am from Peru and I love been part of God's family.

[francis073]

super chant accapella de l'eglise du christ

que Dieu vous benisse mes frere et souers

[church0fchrist]

Merci ! Peut Dieu vous bénir aussi bien !

[composer321]

Beautiful. Praise the Lord!!!

[Justinrolltide]

What a great encouragement to see brothers and sisters in Christ singing praises to God

[Jmac0585]

It's a blessing to see these vids on youtube.

Thanks for the post!

[ManofGodChristian144]

Amen. Wonderful service

[tscott409]

I lead singing in Beaumont TX and was wondering what songbook you use and do you have a supplemental songbook with songs written by our brethren??

[church0fchrist]

Praise for the Lord is our song book. I have not heard of the songbook with songs written by our brethren. Tell me more.

[composer321]

Cool. My church uses the "Hymns for Worship" songbook. I loved this video. Your church has really good singers. Check out my two videos called "There's A Stirring" and "High Above The Seraphim." Those are acapella as well.

[bradleycpttd]

It's so good to see a video like this on youtube! I'm a member of the Church of Christ. I think you all have a great congregation and beautiful singing.

[marik178]

Good singing!!!! at my church of christ church i attend, we sing acceplla, we believe instruments are not commanded for the church

[church0fchrist]

Marik,

Great! Thanks for the comment. One thing is for sure he commanded us to sing. So we know our singing is pleasing to him.

Speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord (Ephesians 5:19).

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord (Colossians 3:16).

[marik178]

AMEN!!!!!! My Family and I are trying to begin a church in my area... Because There arent many churches of christs around are area In Indiana... We have 12 thousand saved up and havent asked congerations for money.. We have around 30 attending right now and its family and 2 other families that come that arent related to us.. Were is your church located at???

[church0fchrist]

We are located in Salem VA. Keep up the good work!

[marik178]

You mind telling me your beliefs of the church.. ??? And i will definately tell you mine because it shouldnt hurt to be a christian =) you can email me at Bruntz15@aol.com