all three of them were chill... but tim seemed too out of it half the times i met them, including the time he handed me his beer and then forgot he did and dickishly asked for it back. there was a reason he left. its none of my business or anything and he was a really really cool dude... just the whole taking sides thing is dumb. ANYONE in a band is kind of responsible for the group as a whole. the experiences ive had with this band i can say that no one was truly innocent.... anyway onelove
Frank's vocals are way better. It was a good contrast, especially in Phantom on the Horizon... In my opinion*..and he's just cool. All shy and shit. Not being some little smart ass guy. whatever though. These guys were sick
@theswan86 the black guy(frank) he was just a fan at this moment later when tim left for the bands best intrest they needed a new bass player and frank was there
I got to talk to Andrew like 3 or 4 months ago during their last tour and he said during the tours for Manipulator Tim was getting real into heroin and thats why Tim is like bring drugs and Thomas says no haha.
@METALLMAN1000 Yeah but i hear he has some sort of solo project. And he still does his art. He did the art for TFOTs albums before phantom on the horizon i think.
tom just says how two of his friends died from drugs and tim's like bring drugs.
tim was absolutely wasted and i love his shit (even if it was written by tom) but i can see why he was replaced. still, tom was a gentleman about it and in the goodbye letter he included acknowledged and gave respect to tim.
tom's not full of himself. he's confident. if he was full of himself he'd be bashing others. if you wrote anything remotely as talented as him, you'd have the same right.
Tim's the shit. Thomas was too serious about the band, Tim and Andrew obviously knew that they can never make it huge, but Thomas is trying to be too formal and wont crack any jokes. Lame.
dam dont ever listen to tim ward....harsh but the drug comment from tim was bad also. this is the first time ive heard tim speak other than his screamin. wow he seems like a cool guy more respect to him now. btw andrew sounds like stevo thomas as always and tim reminds me of someone........ooooo that guy joaquin phoenix the actor wierd.
whoa, u can see tim starting to drift from the band and the ithers starting to split from him in this vid. like how thom and andrew are on the opposite side from tim, and how tim disagrees with everything they think in this vid. and what settled it was when tim said "bring drugs" 0.o
if i remember correctly i dont think tim left on bad terms, i think he left because of some personal issues of his own, like depression and being tired from touring
but i am not sure!
so if anyone has good information, please, school me on the subject
dont get me wrong, frank black is cool as shit but tim was a beast. thomas erak is a cocky asshole and andrews just a douchebag. if you disagree with me just shutup and listen to manipulator again.
main point: TFOT RULES and if they do drugs its fine by me as long as they dont die and keep putting out some of the most awesome, original, refreshing music ever
tim probly did the most drugs but thats not y he left; he LEFT (not kicked out) because he took a lot of shit from the rest of the band and wasn having it. they are still friends tho. ive seen frank smoke (weed) 2 i guess its just a bassist thing lol but frank pwns
if tom does any drugs its usually under wraps cuz he don talk about it much xcept for that one vid wer hes like "its april 20th if u kno wut im sayin" and u can tell it hurt him 2 lose friends to drugs but im strayin
oh i see, im a drummer but i try and stay away from that stuff cus theres such a thin line between drugs helping create music and help destroying it. drugs such as alchol and heroin will destroy music everytime
What does it matter if they smoke weed? I know really cool guys that smoke weed, it really doesn't matter. Get over it.
Tim was a good bassist. He seems like a cool guy, he's real in this video and doesn't really hide anything which I think makes Erak and Andrew nervous because this is public but i'm sure they talk like that in private.
what the hell. they shouldn't have booted tim, he was sick. i can't believe they got rid of him. i'm dissapointed there fall of troy!! i thought you were about the whatever attitude; you kinda let me down.
this video pretty much is an example of why tim ward got kicked, on the wiki page or something it says they replaced him for the sake of the band which basicly means they didnt want to deal with his shit and he was making them look like stoners. apperently they still keep in touch with him and he still does cover art for their albums
dude i've smoked with andrew they didn't kick him out because he made them look like stoners thats fucking ridiculous dude. i talked to andrew after the show and he said yeah that he had a drug problem
Mentally speaking weed can make you a zombie. Cigarettes shorten your life span but doesn't cause changes in the personality but pinkhippie must be an "expert" that he can tell the guy smokes.:)
i dont just go 2 random vids and say that, i actually wanted 2 watch this vid, i like the fall of troy, but im glad tim got replaced, he wasnt even a good bass player, just an average one yu can find at any middle school, maybe even some elementery schools
all three of them were chill... but tim seemed too out of it half the times i met them, including the time he handed me his beer and then forgot he did and dickishly asked for it back. there was a reason he left. its none of my business or anything and he was a really really cool dude... just the whole taking sides thing is dumb. ANYONE in a band is kind of responsible for the group as a whole. the experiences ive had with this band i can say that no one was truly innocent.... anyway onelove
lagginswag 4 months ago
Frank's vocals are way better. It was a good contrast, especially in Phantom on the Horizon... In my opinion*..and he's just cool. All shy and shit. Not being some little smart ass guy. whatever though. These guys were sick
eyemawakened 7 months ago
Whoa, band fighting between 4:49 - 5:20
detox2retox 8 months ago
yeah tim is the shit, i talk to him on facebook lol
Brandon69311666 9 months ago
@theswan86 this was before he got into the band
frank(black guy) replaced tim (the guy with the hat)
MultiThat1dude 1 year ago
@theswan86 the black guy(frank) he was just a fan at this moment later when tim left for the bands best intrest they needed a new bass player and frank was there
lightsZeroKaos 1 year ago
i miss tfot =[[
dagothur666 1 year ago 4
i know this has nothing to do with the video, but one comment says "1 month ago" and the one above it says "4 weeks ago". huh? can't wait for Oct. 28
babybrutal123 1 year ago
@babybrutal123 Most months have more days in them than 4 weeks..
dornerd 1 year ago
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waves9790 1 year ago
I can believe this was 3 years ago!!! HOly Crap, time flys by!!! I'll miss TFOT forever!!!
WherethisAllStarted 1 year ago
So that's why picked frank to be in the band.. Cause they liked ballpark franks
iseeRedpeople1 1 year ago
bring the hot dogs
METALLMAN1000 1 year ago
Not cool at 1:15, whoever blew smoke (drugs) as soon as thomas said "drugs", i bet it was tim
RastaAfro1 1 year ago
I got to talk to Andrew like 3 or 4 months ago during their last tour and he said during the tours for Manipulator Tim was getting real into heroin and thats why Tim is like bring drugs and Thomas says no haha.
IYesNoThis 1 year ago
@IYesNoThis really he does heroin !? Tim ward!? wowo no wonder
METALLMAN1000 1 year ago
@METALLMAN1000 yeah apparently he became an addict and thats why he left the band.
IYesNoThis 1 year ago
@IYesNoThis WOW, thats a shocker i never knew that ! man i feel bad for him such a great bass player .. So he got hooked
METALLMAN1000 1 year ago
@METALLMAN1000 Yeah but i hear he has some sort of solo project. And he still does his art. He did the art for TFOTs albums before phantom on the horizon i think.
IYesNoThis 1 year ago
@IYesNoThis cool thanks for sharing dude i never knew that hope all goes well for Tim
METALLMAN1000 1 year ago
@METALLMAN1000 No problem.yeah me too
IYesNoThis 1 year ago
haha at 4:55 - 5:38 they start a verbal fight in the interview....imagine how much they fought outside on their own lol
detox2retox 1 year ago
hoyl shit! Thomas did drugs? I'm sure they were pretty serious if he lost best friends, does anybody know which ones?
GRCGames 1 year ago
@GRCGames at the show in austin he was hitting fat doobies from the crowd.
SupermansDead93 1 year ago
they say twoer! hahahaha saw there last show yesterday!!! ahhh i'll miss them
madeinmanchesterr 1 year ago
Damn,andrew listines to aesop rock, thats fucking pro!
XxzelfxX 1 year ago
tom just says how two of his friends died from drugs and tim's like bring drugs.
tim was absolutely wasted and i love his shit (even if it was written by tom) but i can see why he was replaced. still, tom was a gentleman about it and in the goodbye letter he included acknowledged and gave respect to tim.
tom's not full of himself. he's confident. if he was full of himself he'd be bashing others. if you wrote anything remotely as talented as him, you'd have the same right.
Davvve 1 year ago
Tim's the shit. Thomas was too serious about the band, Tim and Andrew obviously knew that they can never make it huge, but Thomas is trying to be too formal and wont crack any jokes. Lame.
detox2retox 1 year ago
Shh. Thomas has a huge cock! He'll slap you with it.
Lixxification 1 year ago
tim's a fuck. haha thomas was pretty embarassed of him.
MrFoxykitty 2 years ago
I cant stand Tims voice
pinksock07 2 years ago
"We lost two friends to drugs"
Tim:"Bring the drugs"
sparky89104 2 years ago 6
Man id love to play with the deftones smoke with the deftones and bbq with the deftones that is like my dream.
sweetclyde77 2 years ago
hahaha thomas looked bored
kmsilva100 2 years ago
tim with the fly ass detroit hat hahaha. such a great band
Clownpants98 2 years ago
Bring drugs to our shows. ZIIIIIIIING!
Orphen01 2 years ago
I wonder why hes not in the band any more. hahah
scark0 2 years ago
dam dont ever listen to tim ward....harsh but the drug comment from tim was bad also. this is the first time ive heard tim speak other than his screamin. wow he seems like a cool guy more respect to him now. btw andrew sounds like stevo thomas as always and tim reminds me of someone........ooooo that guy joaquin phoenix the actor wierd.
exsymphony 2 years ago
everyone hates this interveiwer..
hahah
Steevz345 2 years ago 4
you can tell thomas hates time
whitetrashscum 2 years ago
@whitetrashscum wait hates time?
what do you mean?
Steevz345 2 years ago
he ment tim.
EuReKaDeAdScOpE 2 years ago
@Steevz345 i meant tim
whitetrashscum 2 years ago
haha, fucking Andrew just looks like one of those guys that's always fuckin smiling about something.
Razor0rDie 2 years ago 23
steady cheesin'
yousurnaym 2 years ago
@Razor0rDie that's so true
GRCGames 1 year ago
@Razor0rDie Andrew is hella chill. I talk to him on facebook aha.
FluffyMuffina 9 months ago
oh. i get why he wrote the dark trail.
dullesthedog1 2 years ago
these guys are awesome!!!!
franko91 2 years ago
bring drugs and do em with us, sounds good
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god i hate thomas..
msmeluhknee 2 years ago
fuck you thomas is awesome
devilwearsprada1234 2 years ago
fuck you thomas is a bitch
msmeluhknee 2 years ago
youre a bitch. thomas is awesome. just bash tim.
devilwearsprada1234 2 years ago
what the hellllll tim was the only reason that band was good.. they honestly suck now thomas is so full of himself..
msmeluhknee 2 years ago
he was good, but thats the point. hate him cuz he quit.
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msmeluhknee 2 years ago
@msmeluhknee thomas is full of himself cause his music owns ur sad life
exsymphony 2 years ago
have you ever met the guy? you're a fucking dumb ass.
tim was the shit
KickUpAstorm 2 years ago 14
bash tim for leaving. thats what i ment, bash him cuz hes awesome, but he left. troll
devilwearsprada1234 2 years ago
@KickUpAstorm, Tim was awesome, i miss him.
Magicmanzomg 2 years ago 2
@KickUpAstorm Other than being a heroin addict...
keckelma 1 year ago
@KickUpAstorm yea I liked Tim's screams more then Frank's but in my opinion their both were great bassists
JustinCaparas 1 year ago 2
emmm from 8:47 til the end the interview turns really funny BTW never listen to tim WArd XD
juanjijon 2 years ago
lol andrew at 8:47 he is so damm right hayley is hot XD
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i love this fucking band!!!!
burnside91 2 years ago
lol at 7:16 to 7:26, i thought the way he looked was funny.
Jalkotsu 2 years ago
haha, awesome ending. SO FAR FROM HOMEEEE
Avenger666 2 years ago
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RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
mhm no more asthma for me =]
bigace511 2 years ago
i wasn't being a jerk i was just expanding my vocabulary, thanks for the info pussy
JORGEesCOOLIO 2 years ago
is carcernous a word wouldnt it be anti-carcinogenic
JORGEesCOOLIO 2 years ago
He lost two friends towards drugs!? Tim left cause of drugs! what a coincidence.
bigace511 2 years ago 2
Wait seriously?
I thought it was complications between Tim and touring or something
RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
nah drugs man.. and after a while they seemed unfriendly.
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KickUpAstorm 2 years ago
Fuck yeah! They listen to ISIS! The best underground metal band EVER!
Altered6Chicken 2 years ago
tension between the bassist and guitarist???? LMAO!
snakeater 2 years ago
yeah they actually got a new bassist now lol
squall4008 2 years ago
would that be a good concert? the fall of troy and brand new?
trikid4142 2 years ago
they completely dismiss the fact that their record is released, the guy says it and they ignore it. xD
hotpants4294 2 years ago
hahahah dont worry about it "bass player" hahahah erik is a dick hahhaaha 9:00
guitarfreakinpain69 2 years ago
whoa, u can see tim starting to drift from the band and the ithers starting to split from him in this vid. like how thom and andrew are on the opposite side from tim, and how tim disagrees with everything they think in this vid. and what settled it was when tim said "bring drugs" 0.o
pidrgu 2 years ago
if i remember correctly i dont think tim left on bad terms, i think he left because of some personal issues of his own, like depression and being tired from touring
but i am not sure!
so if anyone has good information, please, school me on the subject
doyochainhangloww 2 years ago
Man. These guys are so chill.
AlucardX7X 2 years ago
dont get me wrong, frank black is cool as shit but tim was a beast. thomas erak is a cocky asshole and andrews just a douchebag. if you disagree with me just shutup and listen to manipulator again.
AlexanderBlueAvenue 2 years ago
What? Where are you getting this? The things you are saying just sound like nonsensical bullshit.
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abrondarbit 2 years ago
andrew's just a smartass man, can't hate him for it, i love it.
but as much as thomas erak's up there on my influences and all that jazz, he has his fair share of dick moments.
morebeer2345 2 years ago
They were so cool back then. Except Andrew. He never changed and he is always cool.
tayzlord 2 years ago
HAHAHA hell ya Andrew's the shit
yoyoggw126 2 years ago
u guys are fucking idiots. tim was probably only acting half-way douchey because he was mostly likely stoned out of his mind.
punkXrockX123 2 years ago
i fuckin love andrew
jlaw666 2 years ago
that dude tim when he says something the drummer (dont know his name) contradicts it lol and the tim guy doesnt get it, he looks pretty fried.
360nollietre 2 years ago
its too bad... there was a time when tim wasnt such a tool
ThirtyYearsWar 2 years ago
tim is such a douche.
"Thomas Erak stated on the band's forums that his leave was full time and for the best interest of the band." thank god
kalleklov 2 years ago
i heart this band
iuhuh10110 2 years ago
Tim is my cousin
Shukie01 2 years ago
really?
coolskaterlikeice 2 years ago
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AlbertFlutur 2 years ago
they all do drugs. tim is like the light weight of it all.. and now he is gone
heyimdrewdavid 2 years ago
is tom wearing eyeliner? ahaha
andrew is such a nice guy :D
starsalt 2 years ago 3
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I know right.
Tim is such a cunt. "Redneck for a week."
MatthewIsBlank 2 years ago
tomas was just talking about how he lost a couple friends from drugs...really tim, really?
j3sters 2 years ago 8
"bring drugs" not cool tim :/
j3sters 2 years ago 10
did they just say that they're isis fans? tfot just got even cooler
psychomode14 2 years ago
Watch out for the spinning weiners
Hippyslayer101 2 years ago
the interveiwer always wears that paramore shirt. fucking ass.
TFOT ftw.
GymLeaderGabe 2 years ago
Tim is fucking awesome. Wish he wouldn't have left
XxDregeNxX 2 years ago
I like this band, but I just heard about them. Can someone tell me which one is Frank?
Flippin3500 2 years ago
hes black. he took over for tim
jgriff93 2 years ago 2
man i wish i was in fot
pridefighter93 3 years ago 2
yeah, sometimes it seemes like Tom and Andrew vs. Tim. lol, I mean it makes sense that he left......i actually called it after doppelganger
and1streeter 3 years ago
tom was funny at 9:01 and 9:21. but yeah tim was doing a lot of drugs
microphoneCtoTheH 3 years ago
Frank > Tim
hartley9306 3 years ago
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tim=better bassist and screamer than frank. awesome band tho
Clownpants98 3 years ago
which one is tim ?
lisablas 3 years ago
the guy with the lip piercing
microphoneCtoTheH 3 years ago
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god tim is a piece of shit
cohenmkarnell 3 years ago
"don't ever listen to tim ward..."
Avenger666 3 years ago 3
idaho?!!!
really?!
i live there me thinx
fernyfftl 3 years ago
is it me or thomas has blue/grey eyes ?__?
coolskaterlikeice 3 years ago
i can see why tim left the band
vsngsorrow 3 years ago 14
main point: TFOT RULES and if they do drugs its fine by me as long as they dont die and keep putting out some of the most awesome, original, refreshing music ever
hairywhiteboy 3 years ago 7
tim probly did the most drugs but thats not y he left; he LEFT (not kicked out) because he took a lot of shit from the rest of the band and wasn having it. they are still friends tho. ive seen frank smoke (weed) 2 i guess its just a bassist thing lol but frank pwns
if tom does any drugs its usually under wraps cuz he don talk about it much xcept for that one vid wer hes like "its april 20th if u kno wut im sayin" and u can tell it hurt him 2 lose friends to drugs but im strayin
hairywhiteboy 3 years ago
thats strange, my bassist smokes alot of weed, i guess it is a bassist thing
BHWR 2 years ago
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he's not your bassist anymore
burnside91 2 years ago
it's a rhythm section thing
every bassist n drummer i know [myself n my bassist included] smoke a hefty amount of herb.
gets us in that funkayy groove lol
ChaostheClown 2 years ago
oh i see, im a drummer but i try and stay away from that stuff cus theres such a thin line between drugs helping create music and help destroying it. drugs such as alchol and heroin will destroy music everytime
BHWR 2 years ago
mhmm i know, believe me. i've seen a lot of people go down that road.
i don't even get drunk anymore. i just smoke a little weed. it's probably the most mild thing out there, i can still function n think properly lol.
ChaostheClown 2 years ago
Someone show this guy to the real world
RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
if you wanna waste you life on alchol and heroin be my guest.
BHWR 2 years ago
Nah fuck that
Weed + Alcohol + Music = Life
RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
yeah thats what im trying to say though, i dont get what the argument is?
BHWR 2 years ago
Aw my bad lol
RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
i'm with ya minus the alco....just weed....i don't like to be sloppy lols
LinkkilledthepromQ 2 years ago
wow they hate tim haha its hilarious "dont ever listen to tim ward"
christoph2nd 3 years ago 2
First Tomas is talkin about how he lost 2 of his best friends to drugs, then the bassist is like HEY, BRING US DRUGS!!
Vick0077 3 years ago 4
Lol andrew holding a laugh while thom talks about his friends to drugs
tomphlpps 3 years ago
oh sweet he wants to tour with brand new
glitterkittens 3 years ago
i like this guys more and more... every interview makes me like them more...
psychobobek 3 years ago
we miss you tim
dyland513 3 years ago
What does it matter if they smoke weed? I know really cool guys that smoke weed, it really doesn't matter. Get over it.
Tim was a good bassist. He seems like a cool guy, he's real in this video and doesn't really hide anything which I think makes Erak and Andrew nervous because this is public but i'm sure they talk like that in private.
Bigassrobot 3 years ago 5
TIM FOR LIFE
disluxia 3 years ago
Haha, Tim was the grillmaster!
ItzReptar 3 years ago
hahaha bring drugs to our show, tims a badass
aenima133 3 years ago
its not ridiculous
if andrew smokes he keeps it lowkey
not like Tim "bring drugs to ours shows so we can have a bad image"
WhoaPhil 3 years ago
they didn't boot him.. he left
thony2010 3 years ago 2
tims not a fag. i dunno if youve been to a live show man but he plays a good bass and hes a good screamer
aenima133 3 years ago
they can smoke whatever they want as long as they dont die, cause theyre awesome
KillerBear111 3 years ago 4
Who gives a fuck if they crack dope or not
its none of your fucking business, just listen to the music and be done with it mate
LmaoItSucks 3 years ago 3
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tims a fag im happy they kicked him out, frank black is much cooler.
yoseme 3 years ago
what the hell. they shouldn't have booted tim, he was sick. i can't believe they got rid of him. i'm dissapointed there fall of troy!! i thought you were about the whatever attitude; you kinda let me down.
1msg 3 years ago
tim left under his own power due to stress reasons.
thisisanthonyvt 3 years ago 2
this video pretty much is an example of why tim ward got kicked, on the wiki page or something it says they replaced him for the sake of the band which basicly means they didnt want to deal with his shit and he was making them look like stoners. apperently they still keep in touch with him and he still does cover art for their albums
meb94 3 years ago
dude i've smoked with andrew they didn't kick him out because he made them look like stoners thats fucking ridiculous dude. i talked to andrew after the show and he said yeah that he had a drug problem
aenima133 3 years ago
tera melos
paramoretotallyrox 3 years ago 4
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weed is so bad for yu
straightegde!! look at tim, he looks like a fag, yu can tell by his face he smokes
pinkhippie135 3 years ago
weeds not nearly as bad for you as cigarettes, perhaps you should take your straightedge crusade to every video with cigarettes.
killingisfun52 3 years ago
Mentally speaking weed can make you a zombie. Cigarettes shorten your life span but doesn't cause changes in the personality but pinkhippie must be an "expert" that he can tell the guy smokes.:)
jajajah86 3 years ago
i dont just go 2 random vids and say that, i actually wanted 2 watch this vid, i like the fall of troy, but im glad tim got replaced, he wasnt even a good bass player, just an average one yu can find at any middle school, maybe even some elementery schools
pinkhippie135 3 years ago
r u fuckin retarded
not a good bassist
he wuz fuckin sic
and so wuz his scream
anthonysjb 2 years ago 3
its actually speculated by scientists now that smoking weed is like smoking 10 cigarettes at once
random66ness 3 years ago
did u really just say that, u can tell if he smokes or not
americanzero415 3 years ago
straighedge hippie LOL?wtf kid you look like a fag
ItzReptar 3 years ago
????how do yu no what i look like???? yu idiot
pinkhippie135 3 years ago
oh the best part is when thomas is talking about his bad time while writin the record and andrew is smilin so baad xD ha great!
CherryShikari 3 years ago
the best part is when tim was like,"bring drugs, we'll do them with you", and the guy interviewing them is laughing his ass off.
AlbertFlutur 3 years ago
haha they're all jerks to tim I know why he left now.
Boooby 3 years ago
not really
AlbertFlutur 3 years ago
tim smokes weed!!??!!??!! some1 tellme!!!xD anywas tell me!!!!
postor100 3 years ago
O.o u just needed to look at him and u knew he smokes weed
CherryShikari 3 years ago 2
i was at this show.AWESOME!!!!!!!
dood901 3 years ago
they really hate tim LOL
cartsteve 3 years ago