Groupee Outtakes - "Superhero"

[inevitabletraitor]

Being in the industry a long time doesn't mean you're any more talented than a newcomer. Micheal Bay and Uwe Boll have been making movies a long time, too, and they're pretty synonymous with crap. Only two of Snyder's scripts ever got produced, and while that may not be all his fault since I know a lot of scripts that get purchased are never made into movies, but saying how long he's been writing doesn't mean anything. Ultimately I think I just view film as more art than business.

[inevitabletraitor]

Oh I GET Save the Cat. I get what it's about and it's much more about marketing a story than telling it. Writers do seem pretty divided on Snyder, and for the sake of diplomacy, not all the writers who like him are bad. I just think he's very narrow minded.

And he criticizes Memento rather harshly. That's just something don't do.

[EFFANDJEFF]

@inevitabletraitor No, it's not about marketing a story rather than telling it, it's about focusing the story so clearly that it becomes easy to market. You must remember that Blake was in the industry for a very long time. He has seen people who don't understand the value of focusing an idea, and they can't actually tell people (producers, the audience etc) what it's actually about in basic terms. All the best movies can do that. That's all Blake was saying.

Narrow minded. I don't think so.

[eltorero64]

Hey goofy!- It's called showbusiness for a reason.

[inevitabletraitor]

Interesting that he cites "loving" Spiderman, yet in his first book he criticizes it multiple times. I really hate Blake Snyder. As one person put it, he's less about storytelling and more about storySELLING.

[EFFANDJEFF]

@inevitabletraitor Yeah, but you're not going to be selling any stories unless it's a story worth telling. If you don't open up Save the Cat and just instantly get it, I don't think that you personally are ever meant to write stories at all

[luckystrike1]

RIP.