Beta IsraEL: the Lemba & Black Hebrews DNA NEW

[BlackfisT619]

Genetics reveal that The Lemba have more Hebrew DNA than the Sephardic and Askhenazi populations combined!

[timcp1]

It isn't us who has it twisted. You simply read through the genealogy in the Hebrew Holy Bible, you will plainly see that the Ethiopian came from Ham. Shem, Eber, Terah, Abram are the Hebrew line. Any shared DNA today shows a mixture that took place sometime ago. God led Abram and Sarai out of Ur of the Chaldees, this is nowhere close to the lemba tribes of Africa nor even on the same Continent.

[Lagolop]

Stop blowing it out your shorts. The Ethiopians AND Lemba r only Jewish as they were converts of wandering Jews. Jewish men took local African women and converted them. Look at the DNA of Lemba for example, they have genome commonality even with blue eyed, blond, fair Ashkenazim. It is traced through the male side. Dif story for females.

ORIGINAL Israelites//Jews were Caucasians like all other original Levantines. There is no spin; most Jews, unless total converts, will have genetic commonality.

[Born2Flesh]

Prove it!

[Lagolop]

@Born2Flesh

DNA evidence proves that the Lemba women were taken as wives by Diaspora Cohenim. The Levantines are not and never were negros. Look at Ashkenazi Jews (blond blue eyed very fair skinned), they have the same genomes showing commonality with the original Levantine Jews. Proven time & again. Archaeological evidence also indicates that the original Hebrews were often red headed, fair, & blue eyed. Steeling Jewish heritage is wrong & can't be done :)

[Born2Flesh]

wrong

[brownlawgirl]

@Lagolop The Lemba are a living testament that the original Hebrews were and are of dark skin, as were the Egyptians. Your leaders,historians, archeaologists, and all your other professionals know it. Now we know it because it has been revealed to us, millions of us all over the world, by the very God you claim to have a special relationship with. Did you know that even Europeans, Indians, Pakistani's and Chinese are getting this revelation? They admit who we are. So what will you do?

[ckygogo]

What part of Ashkenazi descendant from gomar descendant from japeth descendant from Noah don't the world understand it's genesis chapter 10, now in the same chapter ethiopians are from ham! Every one claims to believe in the bible then why is this even a debate! Solomon had one son by Sheba,menilik so unless your a descendant of his no Ethiopian can be hebrew! remember those that love truth & the bible The Most High says ysrael cannot be a nation nor defeat it's enemy's & they would be slaves i

[jamjr1972]

@EthiopianHebrews ALL PRAISES TO THE MOST HOLY SHIBBOLETH; AND GLORY TO MY KING JE'SUS! YE"IS"US! YES'US! THE HOUSE OF JACOB REJECTS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!" "YOU SHOULD GET OUT OF "EPHRAIM'S YID'ISH!" "THE MOST HOLY SHIBBOLETH AND MY MASTER/KING JESUS; SHOWING "THE HOUSE OF JACOB WHO FOUGHT AGAINST US! "ALL OF JACOB'S ENEMIES LIVE IN "MOUNT ZION!" EthiopianHebrews DO YOURSELF AND YOUR PEOPLE A FAVOR; READ LEVITICUS 26:1 AND COMPARE TO:THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, JUDAISM/ZIONIST, AND TO MUSLIMS!

[ChocolateDaVinciVII]

Interesting because the scientists once claimed that all Southern African Blacks were "Bantus" who evolved in the Cameroon region of West Africa thousands of years ago gradually settleing into South Africa displacing the San Khoisan. This just further proves that labels such as Bantu are wrong. Blacks in Africa diverged from all parts of Africa and outside of Africa superficial appearances can be misleading just like in the case of the Lemba tribe who are indistinguishable from other Africans.

[BOOPFATTY]

@ChocolateDaVinciVII If we go back to the Bible itself it shows that even in biblical times the Israelites were very hard to distinguish from the so called native born Africans..

Case in point

Exodus 2:19 Moses mistaken to be an Egyptian(African)

Acts 21:38 Paul mistaken to be an Egyptian(African)

The entire Israelite nation, the TRUE (12 tribes) look very similar to Africans today!

Some even call themselves erroneously "African Americans"

[Lagolop]

@BOOPFATTY

Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian royalty who at the time were Macedonians (lily white). The Bible never uses the word "african" at all, lol.

How come Jews were often described as fair and red haired? Hmmmm. Not too many blacks can be described like that.

[creolelady70]

the Lemba people were not brought to North America as Slaves, therefore they are a group people who are related to the ancient people of Judea/Palestine. The Af/Am people are not Lemba !!!!!, 90% are west Africans.. dumb bitches :P

[BOOPFATTY]

@creolelady70 by calling us bywords and proverbs which you just did, further proves who we really are.

Deuteronomy 28:37 

[creolelady70]

@BOOPFATTY proves absolutely nothing.. not only that, but you sound like every other person who believes this.. it's all based on not accepting being Black Africans.so some look and seek out something else to cling too... i know enough about History, to prove every Black Hebrew wrong, but I do accept that Lemba people are who they are... African Americans did not come from these people... they were a part of a different slave trade and culture.. an entire continent didn't come to America.

[creolelady70]

@BOOPFATTY just because my cousin had a baby for a Chinese man and I didn't doesn't make my kids Chinese... understand? it makes her kids a part of the Chinese culture. She is still my cousin...

Lemba people are not even give birth to the kingdoms of west Africa.

[rasheedzee]

@creolelady70 you don't make any sense, and you obviously have an agenda against blacks. it's pathetic.

the lemba weren't the ONLY tribes of israel. they spread ALL over africa, and , point in fact, the ones caught in the slave trade were MOSTLY jews enslaved by muslims and europeans BECAUSE they were israel and had a history of enslavement in other empires that wasn't lost of hidden from history at that time.

[creolelady70]

@rasheedzee , yea an Agenda to not fall into being a culture vulture and listen to black people being sick of being black Africans and want to be anything but black to feel better about themselves.

I AM BLACK and its only my skin color.. what does black mean but skintone anyway.

[rasheedzee]

@creolelady70 I can tell you're black by your screen name. we are, in fact, STILL, technically, by eurocentric labeling, african, since in the time of biblical hebrew posperity, the arabian penninsula was considered a part of africa, and the jews who fled there, WENT to mainland africa. I imagine you've become a sucess within the white engineered system, which is adjusted to suit the pshychological and physiological needs of people of lighter complextion, and wish to not generate any waves

[creolelady70]

@rasheedzee TOO many black people who are obviously Genetically from the same group of people that are on the western coast of Africa.. try to move their DNA around because they hate who they are.

[rasheedzee]

@creolelady70 that western coast you are talking about was the home of a huge HEBREW empire that converted to islam.

fool, you are ignorant and only react off of uninformed emotions. do some research, because your bias and petty racism against people with certain gentic inheritances is obvious to anyone in the know, and it's very petty and simple minded. there much, MUCH DEEPER things to get your panty hose in a knot over than blacks rediscovering their identity.

[pussypuffs]

@creolelady70 you should probably include where the west africans came from to make your arguement more solid instead of the insults. you dont have any sort of references just coming in here talking like your word is gold if you want to prove a point, use logos and not "dumb bitches." that doesnt make you very credible

[creolelady70]

@pussypuffs Where are your references besides people who write books from their basement? i mean anyone can write a book and make a eBook for amazon, but that does not make it a legitimate historical document. You will have to take to account documents and Dna evidence to prove what you say. If you are only going on what one man is saying you are doomed to being a culture vulture just like the people you claim to hate.

[pussypuffs]

@creolelady70 i didnt say anything that needed references. you did. seems likes other people arent too happy with your lack of sense either. and i didnt claim to hate anyone? who the fuck are you talking to?

[ZionIDF]

It' amazing! Nobody wanted to be a Jew 70 years ago during nazi times! Jews were despised and persecuted for 2000 years and nobody doubted their identity!

And now those who had persecuted Jews for being Jews came with the "proofs" that those persecuted Jews were not Jews at all!

The World of these Jew-haters is totally perverted!

[ekultus]

@ZionIDF Yep the Jews were "despised and persecuted for 2000 years" for no good reason, no reason at all. Wait, there must be a reason.

[ZionIDF]

@ZionIDF How about Jealousy. There are many reasons why Jews were persecuted for many years one reason is that when people are angry with God they chose to hate on his people as a way to vent their anger and frustrations.

[Lagolop]

@ZionIDF

"It' amazing! Nobody wanted to be a Jew 70 years ago during nazi times"

Good point; same as nobody whined about a "pali" state when gaza was held by Egypt & Shomron & Yehudea was held by Jordan.

Some Jews are black but they r not the same as the so called "black Israelites", who r just bitter disenfranchised losers. Sad for those black ppl really, when you think of it. To think so badly of themselves that they steal another's ID.

[ZionIDF]

It' amazing! Nobody wanted to be a Jew 70 years ago during nazi times! Jews were despised and persecuted for 2000

years and nobody doubted their identity!

And now those who had persecuted Jews for? being Jews came with the? "proofs" that those persecuted Jews were not Jews at all!

The World of? these Jew-haters is totally perverted!

[ZionIDF]

These are the only real Black Hebrews and you know how you can tell, because when you meet them they don't act like Niggers like the New York so call "Black Hebrew"

[jomokariuki]

@ZionIDF That is one of the most ignorant paragraphs I have ever read. Do not revel in stupidity. I'm sure you can use the brain God gave you to better effect than that. THINK, and then THINK again and before you put finger tips to keyboard, THINK one more time. Your words lack intelligence, thought and wisdom.

[jamjr1972]

@jomokariuki @ZIONIDF "EPHRAIM!" JUDGES 12:6...."MY PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER CALL ON YOUR DEMONS YOU BROUGHT OUT OF EGYPT ANY LONGER!" aDONI(LIE FOR EPHRAIM),jAHOVAH(LIE FOR ESAU),yEH'O'VEH(LIE FOR EPHRAIM'IDUMEAN'ESAU),yAH'O'WE­H(LIE FOR EPHRAIM'IDUMEAN'JACOB) ,yHVH-yHWH "AIN'T GONNA CUT IT; IT'S TIME FOR "YOU EPHRAIM'ITES TO CALL ON THE NAME OF "THE FATHER OF ALL SOULS!" "MY MASTER JESUS CHRIST'S GOD; "THE MOST HOLY SHIBBOLETH!" "YOU GUYS SPEAK; BUT NEVER WITH SCRIPTURES!" HOSEA 5:9 "TIME IS UP!"

[jomokariuki]

@jamjr1972 I understand your point about speaking with scripture, but I feel there is more you are trying to reveal to me. Continue.

[jamjr1972]

@jomokariuki ALL PRAISES TO THE MOST HOLY SHIB'BO'LETH; AND GLORY TO MY KING JE'SUS! YE"IS"US! YES'US! ALL BLESSINGS TO YOU JACOB! ALL BLESSINGS TO MY KING'S OTHER FLOCK;"CHRISTIANS FOR THE CHRIST!" SMILE JUDAH! LEVITICUS 26:1 "V.S." RELIGION:SCRIBES(THE CROSS)ROME AND AMERICA Isaiah 46:7, PHARISEES (ALLAH THE KAB'BAH) MECCA/MOUNT PARAN/MEDINA Habakkuk 2:11, SADUCEES (EPHRAIM'S STAR) JEWISH STATE Amos 5:26....@jomokariuki "RELIGION IS "THE ANTI_CHRIST AND THE FOUR HORNS" Zechariah 1:19,Amos 7:17

[TheExodus17]

How weak is this Ethiopian stuff? We all come from Adam so anyone can claim they are Hebrew. If this guy reads the Bible, he would know that God's people are scattered in the Americas and the other nations.

[yien]

@TheExodus17

he is talking about DNA...a genetic link between ethiopians & israelites. science. you are talking about your BELIEF that we all came from adam and are therefore all hebrew. scientifically speaking ashkenazic (european) jews are converts, granted they converted a long time ago, but are not genetic relatives to the mizrachim like the ethiopians and sephardic. so your comment is kind of pointless...at least that is my understanding.

[TheExodus17]

@yien Either your Ethiopian or Hebrew. You cannot be both. African or Israelite. Which one is it?

[yien]

@TheExodus17

can't they be african with hebrew ancestry? they probably converted and mixed long ago. who am i to say they are not? you can say the same thing about the european jews. how can they be european and hebrew at the same time? they are not true genetic relatives of the israelites. at least the ethiopians share some dna...thats more than the 'white' jews populating israel now. they are simply more white ppl trying to take darker ppl's land and identity like in america.

[TheExodus17]

@yien Absolutely, the Europeans in Israel today are not Jews this much is true. However, believe it or not my friend, the blacks who were brought on slave ships to America, Asia, Europe, etc are more closely related to white Europeans than Africans. Go Figure... They are Jacob's brother Esau. My point was that Africans and Hebrews are not the same, the bloodline is completely different, although we share the same skin tone. It is like saying Europeans are Japanese because of their skin tone...

[yien]

@TheExodus17

blacks are closer related to whites? i have to disagree with you there. africans are not the same as the hebrews, i agree. but i can accept that they converted and mixed with them at some point in their history. at least more than the european jews. the european and japanese reference went right by me tho! haha

[PunchOjr]

As far as the Sephardic Arab Jew they are convert to who was set there before Brittain set the whites there! You can find that in 2king when then assyrian king to out 10 tribes and replaced em wit foreign people one was called Sephardim! They call by name so we cant and shall not compare DNA to converts! They are called Lost Sheep for a reason!

[PunchOjr]

Lets not b petty no matter where life started it was a black man proving by other countries and races! We have no real Jew to compare thats fact admit by sum white preachers and arabs ben sayin for years those who occupy Israel are convert even converte Jews theirself admit

[orthodoxisraelites]

They use the rothchild bloodline as the Kohen bloodline...God will judge the wicked

[peewee1104]

there is no such thing as hebrew dna, unless you check the dna of all the blacks in the world, the bible it self lets us all know who the hebrews are in his word, yet people will not receive the word of GOD. it is not a hard thing, nor is it something to be debated upon who are the hebrews, read GOD'S word in Deuthromy, and it will tell you who MOSES is addressing, he is addressing the hebrew children, the JEWS, HE IS TELLING THEM , WHAT GOD TOLD HIM TO TELL THEM. yet , you people keep argue.

[dyabraham]

Also, the Covenant that was made with Abraham extended to Issac and Jacob/Isreal is just that. No matter how the other nations hide and suppress who the true Isrealites are (Psalms 83). It is best to Pray and ask The Highest God in his Sons' name for the truth while reading his Holy Words. Because the time is near and all who do not accept Christ and repent will stand weeping and gnashing on Judgement Day.

[dyabraham]

Modern day isrealis that occupy the Desolate Holy land (Rev. 2:9) and the falasha (Rev 3:9). Check history (book of Jasher) Moses was king of cush before going to the Midianites and he never Layed with any cushite or hamite. Why would Solomon lay with one?

[rubisafricaine]

@10theword I am not sure that I understand your comment in relation to my comments. You mention the issue of African slaves being stripped of one's identity and also the issue of not knowing G-d. I'm not sure how those two issues relate and what the overall point of your comment is...in other words, I don't understand what you're trying to say or ask, so I'm not quite sure how to respond.

[DXRD1240]

And don't screw people's minds with this whole "Ham, Shem and Noah were black" concept, because it's not working either, the Bible speaks about how Humanity started from Mesopotamia and not from Africa, all of the early Genesis stories are set in Mesopotamia, the writers of the Bible are people who's ancestors originated from Mesopotamia so how could you call it a "black history book" or even claiming you are Israelites, don't you have shame?

[DXRD1240]

If you really are Semites (I'm not even talking about western-Semetics) so how is it that you're NOT look like other Semetic people, such as: Assyrians, Akkadians, Aramaeans, Babylonians, Chaldeans and so forth, while the Jews DO looks like them? huh? this is because they are the REAL Israelites, not you....

[TheBigDogHouse]

@crankhousedope Some do become envious when they encounter American blacks but that's not the whole of them that feel that way. Beside they have their ethnic pride also.

[biglj822009]

Another thing you need to know is that when the bible talk about the women being fair it is another word for beautiful not white or skin color son. You need to over the fact the the real Egyptians and the Israelites or other Hebrew were black people and to this day they still black. You cant not get over this.

[challengebytheword]

Brother, at this time and place, we blacks are all brothers and sisters around the world; Understanding all of this; The blessings through Most High that all blacks, now is the time that we come together, let no division destroy the vision of unity among us. Let us revive ourselves to the Most High and pledge our alliegence to the unity of black power from the Most High;

[VendPrekmurec]

EL is sumerian deity like Anunnak; non human, serpent

[amirishaq1]

@VendPrekmurec Enki the " Hairy Hunter " later manifests as

Esau the " Hairy Hunter " of the Bible. Enki came from the RED planet of NIBIRU(HEBREW) and Esau was referred to as being RED. The worshippers of Enki(EA) placed goat skins on their hands. In becoming one with Esau, Jacob places goat skins on his hands. Enki was the "Trickster god". When Jacob disguised as Esau he became Jacob the trickster. Enki's birthright was taken by younger brother Enlil.Esau's taken by younger Jacob.

[MAZMARTinc]

As a black man myself, I'm excited and intrigued by the Lemba people but I pray the Holy Spirit should break down barriers or callouses in the hearts of many who may, to this point not grasped HIS message. There are other peoples who are proven by DNA, culture, tradition and history to be Hebrew and in fact Israelite, some even from China. God seeks a people circumcised of the heart to love HIM 'completely' and to love his neighbor as himself (That actually includes enemies). Don't fear love!

[paintandillustrate]

There was a civil war going on in Africa during the time of the Slave Trade. Look at the movie "A Prince Among Slaves" on youtube. Many Eastern Africans were sold into slavery after being Captives of Western Africans after they lost battles. Alot of these people were hebrews and muslims that is why Spanish slave ships found it necessary to changed these peoples names. The Spanish were Christians they could not see themselves selling Hebrews and Muslims into slavery withotu dehumanization.

[amirishaq1]

DNA Test results prove that the Lemba and Falasha are Not related to each other at all. The Falasha(Beta-Israel Sect) are of Hamitic Agau origin,while

the Amhara(The tribe of Haile Selaisse )of Ethiopia are of authentic Semitic-

Israelite ancestry. DNA Test results also indicate that there is NO relation

between the Falashas and "African-American" Hebrew-Israelite sects.

[LatinBarbieDoll]

The Ethiopians are not Ancient Yisraelites.

[swaggzist]

Matthew 24:40-41"Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left" also remember Judah sold Joseph into Egypt so when the slavery happened to your ancestors it was pehaps the lords way of fulfilling his word Genesis 37:26-27 and Deut 28:68 lets stop the blame game we are Hebrew 2

[swaggzist]

most if not all bantu tribes of which the slaves were taken from lost their hebrew identity unlike the Lemba mainly becoz amongst them are the decendants of Aaron, brother to Moses who recieved the ten comandements on from YAHWEH (YHWH) this section of the lemba are actually from Levi priesthood hence they still keep many hebrew customs,the Lemba do not claim to be of wite decent but rather say that WE ARE THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS of the Bible, they will also say most Bantu are hebrew from Judah,

[swaggzist]

Cont: Simeon Ephraim Benjamin. before u judge my Black Jamaican/Black American and all other lost tribes of the House of Israel know where and who your brothers are. I am reading about brothers angry coz they want 2 distance themselves from other African brothers well we are 1 you want proof here is a little Zephaniah 3:10" from the BEYOND the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants even daughter of my dispersed,shall bring mine offering" That is sub sahara africa Banu lands south of Ethiopia cntd:

[swaggzist]

One of the reasons why we as a black nation will remain lost is our failure 2 be united,I am zimbabwean the Lemba are our people who are part of the main tribe in Zimbabwe called the Shona which in african bantu language means Zionist.Lemba are part of the bantu tribe which travelled into africa about 70AD and settled in north west Africa between Cameroon and Nigeria,without dwelling too much into Bantu history our people traveled south Built great stone stractures ie Great Zimbabwe

[ebeledi]

@crankhousedope ok your just a radical black supremacist.Like I said if you EVER meet a Lemba in REAL LIFE not on Television, they will never say they were "white men." Your ancestors were indeed AFRICAN. And thats a Myth, it doesnt really take to many generations to "dilute" any type of blood, just look at Quincy Jones kids and Garcelle Beauvais children so that theory is full of shit. Now i admit, if the kids are 50/50 then they most likely will look black, but it doesnt take "many" generatio

[ebeledi]

@crankhousedope @crankhousedope and by the way african american DNA is "MIXED" its not a homogeneous group. African DNA is made of african, europe (white), and a pinch of native american. It doesnt mean that none your ancestors were not "Isaralites" . But the group is definately not a DIRECT descendant of them. You sound like a misinformed radical.

[ebeledi]

@crankhousedope Lemba's dont say they were "white"...its only white people that say they were white. I know some personally and they always point out that the originally Israrelites were black....till this day there are still native blacks in Israel

[CloudsofBliss]

@VANHICKGOLDI

All of them do but all of them don't. i know that I don't but it dosen't means that others aren't related to the Lemba or Ethopian.

[Truthrightnow7]

Is there a way to see the ancient scriptures?What are they called? How is the DNA test established?

[ByzanzRebel]

That´s good but I want hear reggae

[afrolatino380]

Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

Which means they r the Children of Israel. It doesn't mean they are all Jews.

[thomasodi]

You are so right...all was planned.

2 kingdoms. one went south, the or one went north (the elite, the heart) both are separated by a wall (human and mental)

G-d broke them. G-d will reunite...read yacoub blessing for Yudah and Youssef, then read song of song that no one seems unable to decode...Israelite tradition in africa can...no sex in it at all, the book is the holliest of hollies by jewish tradition.

[afrolatino380]

What is jewish tradition, they all had the same practices and beliefs. They were all hebrews. I'm referring to the 12 tribes of Israel. the traditions would be the same. It should be Hebrew tradition.

[thomasodi]

I think House of Joseph loved Egypt and took alot from it, for many reason. House of Judah kept some, but still influence greatly by assysria until today...We are both errants and need to go back to the source...How?

In my view Judaism and Kabalah is no better than"Christianity" and Voodoo.

How to reunite? How to overcome racism ,bigottery , ignorance?

[afrolatino380]

All these events occurred in the Old Testament.. The two becoming one and also the 12 tribes becoming one again happen. This is the word of God.

[thomasodi]

Not Yet we are still in the dispersion...aren't we

[thomasodi]

See You tube:

EZECHIEL 37 19 Hebrew israelite for israel - I LOVE ISRAEL 0 I love the jews

V1 Jewsish rabbis confirms that israel went in Africa

V2 Millions Israelites MIGRATE INTO AFRICA WAVEs#2 & 3 SO YUDA= SOUDAN

V3 Sudan is a Jewish land! proofs (darfur why)

V5 In Africa we speak the ancient hebrew

[thomasodi]

Wonderful news indeed Lemba as is is a remnant of a very very large group of people called Basa Lemba that flee to the forest north and west to escape islam and christianity thanks a pandora box just opened here

V3 Sudan is a Jewish land! proofs (darfur why)

and

millions of jews migrate in africa

[afrolatino380]

Ashkanzi are not Jews. To be a Jew u must be from the tribe of Judah, Now if anyone claiming to be a Jew can not trace their lineage back to the tribe of Judah or they are not a descendant of Judah, then they r not Jews. Even if they have the dna, they might show some semitic blood, but that doesn't mean u r a Jew. There r 11 other tribes that could come from, They might even be Arabs. But these r hebrew Israelites, I wonder what tribe

[thomasodi]

I agree 100%, I use the word Jew since most of people forgot the hebrews, it's temporary...Israelites/Efraim/­Joseph

is far more numerous....to long to talk about

but you understand...most of the tribes went south. ...

[afrolatino380]

The tribes didn't go to Judea, the ten tribes were taken in to Assyrian captivity.

The tribe of Benjamin was absorbed into the tribe of Judah.

[thomasodi]

Part of them went north indeed, in Assyria

the Torah gave an account of the numbers

(the elites) but Osea and Jeremaiah gave an account of th rest, the masses

Please reread the books and let's comment.

[afrolatino380]

What book in the Torah? because it was clear in I think in the book of Chronicles, that Israel went into captivity and Judah was the only kindom left. I'm sure u can do the math. 12-10=2

What tribes does it say went into Judah. I've heard many stories, the tribe of levi, and other tribes went into the tribe of Judah. Nowhere does it say that in the old testament.

[thomasodi]

please see videos. read Jeremaiah, osea

there are one of the clearest....

[afrolatino380]

u keep saying read Jeremaiah, osea. What chapters and verses.

[thomasodi]

please see videos below: depart1 II king 25:26, jeremaih 35:8 depart2 jeremaiah 43:5-6 jeremaiah 44:1 depart3 acts 31:38 other sources like flavius joseph give acocunts please see: V2 Millions Israelites MIGRATE INTO AFRICA WAVEs#2 & 3 SO YUDA= SOUDAN

[hitman483]

ll king it says the Israelites not Jews left Judah and fled for Egypt. They Israelites may have left Judah for Egypt, but it was the Israelites. perhaps the tribe of Benjamin and the tribes of judah. It doesn't articulate. Furthermore, they were not called Jews at this time. They were called jews after the first babalonian exile.

[thomasodi]

israel=1o of 12 tribes.

Like i said few people distinguish israel and judah, i use the word Jew for the mental image but at least we agree on the first migration. Now what about the 2 others (btw there is more) and how do you undserstand song of songs and the blessing of yacoub over youssef? we are getting back our memories...help us...love truth ..see the videos..ask questions.

[afrolatino380]

Israel = 12 tribes until they split then they became two. The Tribe of Judah South., and the house of Isrel north. Prior to that they were one house. They were all known as Israelites,. There were no such things as Jews. Israel was never a tribe.

They were known as Israelites. BTW Hitman483 is also alfolatino380

[thomasodi]

Indeed...I tis is my dream..We where known as Hebrews and Israelites...We messed up. Still messing up...Jews is a construct..Yehudis are not. They are traped as we are...politics? Spirits and dominions? All I know is we are trapped both houses Judah and Joseph....What to do? I love both....and the true Followers of Christ...and Humanity.

[thomasodi]

Only the elites went North

...what about the masses. Danger always came from North...and later East...The masses fled South...later West

[afrolatino380]

To believe only the elites went north is not believable. It is clear in the Bible, the 10 tribes living in Israel at that time, were taken into Assyrian captivity. Judah and Benjamin were formed as one. That is the only way one can come up with the lost ten tribes.

[thomasodi]

Indeed again.I just focus on mainstream.

Did i said only?....Idea: Your comment on the STICK is right. We need to/will reunite again, both houses House of israel=House of Joseph and House of Judah....They are suffering as we are, tehy are misled as we are, they are used as we are....

[afrolatino380]

The mainstream is incorrect. Focus on what is biblical. What God says, not mainstream. This is why there is so much confusion. Man's word is not the word of God.

[thomasodi]

:)

sure Thx

[ChanaYah100]

Why do you give all the reference of the biblical jews to the Ethiopians? We black people in America is the real Hebrew Israelites. We came from there as slaves and Deuteronomy 28th chapter tells you about our heritage (black americans). None of the Ethiopians came here in ships as slaves.

[becomingahebrew]

but they were slaves dont think cus they didnt go into slavery like us they are not hebrews they are the lemba tribe didnt go into slavery but they are still shebrews

[thomasodi]

Why....Why are you doing that?????

please see medieval maps how the ethiopian empire has been reduced and renamed see the old names of the tribes and cities, lembas was not a small community by the BASA LEMBA , called cafre (infidels )...check the old maps

[thomasodi]

Do you really think all the boats went to america? all hebrews where captured? and no hebrew went north?

Please brothers...let's begin to reconsider.

[ChanaYah100]

You must be crazy. America is north. so, how can you say that the boats didn't go north? My ancestors were slaves from those boats. Are you saying that we blacks here in America are not the original hebrews? You must be white full of lies.

[NegusNagastItyopiYAH]

I think you misunderstood ...we are the felasha of the west beta (lost) though people are saying that the felashas of ethiopia are not true hebrews , when this is not true.

Selamta.

[thomasodi]

not all all but there were many waves, over hundred of years.... pls re-read Jeremaiah

3 major waves into egypt-africa-ethiopia

Ethiopiah was mighty over all "africa" and known as far as china...see maps...even america ex:amazon river (i do not speak amharic)

[slickrickdarula]

@ChanaYah100 there where 12 tribes. the tribe of Judah (american negroes) where brought into slavery, not all tribes had the same faith. Research it up.

[rubisafricaine]

@ChanaYah100 its really insulting to jews of all colors to declare yourself a "real jew" just because of your history of slavery in america. the jews were scattered to all corners of the earth and are of all colors - SOME of us have been through slavery. some of the beta israel died trying to make aliyah. some european jews died in the holocaust. the road to zion is difficult. celebrate the beauty of jewish heritage. i'm sorry, but i've heard that comment of yours so often - its insulting.

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine the Real Isralites never was all colors, they were one color and they were black people.Thats why thought out the whole Bible the 12 Tribes of Israel was always mistake for an Egyptian (African a.k.a Hamites). History its sefe prove that the real Israelites were black people on the painting on the wall of Egypt when the Egyptiains slave other black people in that landand history prove that the Egyptains slaves were black Hebrews(all 12 tribs of Israelites).

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 Regardless of what color the Israelites 1st were (Egyptians come in all different colors - fair to dark...&Isaac wasn't Eyptian), the Bible clearly states that the Jews were scattered to all nations. For thousands of years they mixed with people of all colors - which is why we are all colors today (it's biology). G-d is making it possible for Jews from nations around the world (China, Soviet Union, Ethiopia, etc.) to return to Israel - He CLEARLY determines who's Jewish - not YOU.

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine Who do you think you fooling by telling something which is a complete lie. The Egyptians was not a people with different color . Egyptian was a dark (black) race of people . The Bible and History ,and the painting on the wall over in Egypt today is thousands years old the Egyptians on that painting were black people who were dark brown skin. Also you will find the slaves that the Egyptians have who was making bricks were Hebrews who look just like the Egyptian black people.

[biglj822009]

Genesis 10:The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. Gen 10:3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. Gen 10:4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. Gen 10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. When you resreach these names these were all Russia and Asian and their seeds came from

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine I can show you more

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 First, I am Ethiopian Jewish (NOT of your Black Hebrew Israelite Group) - how interesting you assume that I must be White because I disagree with you. Second, today the Egyptians range from being fair skinned to dark skinned. Yes, I have seen copies of several pictures of the Ancient Egyptians - the colors depicted show them to be a variety of hues (I've noticed your group only points out the pictures that show Egyptians to be "dark").

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 Third, for your argument, it doesn't matter what color the ancient Egyptians were because the first Jewish people weren't Egyptian and there is no Biblical evidence that a lot of mixing was going on. Fourth, what does HAM have anything to do with the Jewish people? NOTHING. Are you arguing that all Black people descend from Ham?

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine I no that you do not rad the bible because for the simple face the that Egyptians were black and so was the Israelite were black as well. The problems is thw people like you just dont like the facts when the truth come out. And you said that Israel didnt mix with other Nations? That is a lie because my forfore father Abramham married the Egyptian maid name Hagar and born Abramham a son name Ishmael.Genesis 16:1-12 Abramham was black and he marry a woman from another blk race

[biglj822009]

@biglj822009 Boaz decendent from the tribe of Juda was married toa woman need Ruth who was an Canaanite Ruth 4:13

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 I am really not interested in further debating this issue (you keep talking about the Egyptians and ignore the major points I am making). 4 the record, I said there is not evidence of "A Lot" of mixing - yes, Joseph's family was mixed - he was royalty, but ALL of the rest of the families were slaves and royalty didn't often mix with slaves. I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THE FIRST JEWISH PEOPLE WERE.

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 Only your group seems to care about digging up evidence that they were "black" because then your group can assert that SOMEHOW when they were scattered to the four corners of the world for THOUSANDS of years, they all remained "black" and never mixed with other ethnic groups and their skin never became fair over time to adjust to the climate (that's IMPOSSIBLE and you never even address the issue - this is my third time mentioning it).

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 Yes, Black people can be Jewish - why do you feel the need to somehow prove that ONLY Black people can be Jewish. Who cares about skin color? It's about coming together to worship G-d and honor is Law. All of you run around acting as if you are the only runs who read the Bible and that anyone who disagrees with you must be not be wanting to see the truth - that's so arrogant.

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 I am "black," African, an Ethiopian AND Jewish - I have no reason to be against people of African descent, so why would you assume that I am shielding my eyes from the truth of the skin color of the original Jews? If Abraham was Black, I am still Jewish. If Abraham was a fair-skinned middle-eastern (and you know they existed in his time), I am Jewish. If he was PURPLE, I am Jewish. I am Jewish and love G-d, that's it. In focusing on color, you are missing the point!

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 In the "mixing part" I was only referring to the time in Egypt - because you talk so much about the Egyptians - yes, in general, the Jewish people mix with a lot of people.

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 For clarity's sake, I meant Moses, not Joseph in my comment about royalty. I was just talking about the 400 years of Egyptian slavery. But again, I'm not concerned w/ skin color. Regardless of whether Abraham's color matches mine or not, it's still possible 4 me to be Jewish (and I am)...so I don't understand why your group spends so much time trying to prove the color of Abraham. If you believe yourself a Jew then fine. Focus on serving G-d instead of deciding whose Jewish.

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 If so, you should know that people who are racist against Black people have used that same argument because they believe the Black race to be backward and point out that HAM was the one son out of Noah's three sons who was cursed because of the way he treated his father (Genesis 9:20-27). I am surprised you didn't pick one of the blessed sons.

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine Joseph one of the 12 Tribe of Isreal who was sold to the Midenites

( Ishmael ) and the Midenites sold Joseph to the Egyptians this happen way b4 Joseph was made prince of Egypt.. The bible say the Joseph marry an Egyptiand woman and have two kids and name them Ephraim Manasseh, their mother was a Egyptian which is a blk race and the Father who was Joseph the 11 son of Jacob was also black. Cannaantie also mistake Jacobs son for an Egyptians. Genesis 50:

[rubisafricaine]

@biglj822009 Per the Bible, the Jewish nation started AFTER Noah and Ham. Jews descend from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. AGAIN, regardless of the "color" of Abraham, because the Jews were scattered to all nations, Jews today are of all colors...there's no way of getting around that.

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine ?Genesis 38:2 Juda the 4th older marry a woman who was a Canaanite and had children with her.  Moses married a woman who was an Ethiopian woman , and Moses sister Miriam spoke against Moses because he married an Ethiopian women Number 12:1

[biglj822009]

@rubisafricaine Zondervan Compact Bible Dictionary. This going to show you the Ham was a dark race which you white folks call black people.

Ham The youngist son of Noah , born probably about 96 years before the Flood;and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark race; not the NEGROS( black slaves in the U.S or other parts of the world were they took black slave going slavey times) , but the Egyptians,Ethiopians,Libyans and Canaanites.

[biglj822009]

@biglj822009 You read your bible and go to Genesis 10: which nations came out of those three sons of Noah . The Son Japheth .When you look up Japheths seeds you will find out the white and Asian and Latin and none black came out of the the seeds of Japheth.

[hnnuny]

i am ethiopian and i dont look like other black ppl in africa, i alwys wonder what my dna would be,

[naturalnice]

Arthur Koestler explains the origin of the false Jews in the 13th Tribe. An important book to read to gain understanding.

[gkraychik]

You are aware that the Supreme Court of Israel (and EVENTUALLY the Chief Rabbinate of Israel) has recognized the Jewishness of Beta Yisroel Jewish persons, right? Interesting video. I intend to learn more of the spread of Judaism to Ethiopia. And ya man, I think Judaism has been in Ethiopia for over a thousand years, not just hundreds. Please pay no attention to prejudice persons claiming that Ethiopian Jews aren't "real" Jews. One.

[RomiLeMot]

they "recognize" them but treat them like shit...basically second class citizens just like what african descendants in the americas had and have to face

[caddy1010]

The truth will be known! Expose the Khazars, the land stealers, yet it does fulfill scriptures such as all of Deut.28 {the curses of disobeying the lord] explains African Americans to a T! Also the scripture says jepheth will dwell in Shems tent ,the truth is there in the scriptures, I wonder what these imposters really,really feel deep in their hearts knowing they are perpatrating a fraud?