@HannoverFisk Hahahaa. I like that. I'm reading some of your comments though and it's seeming to me that the above comment you meant as quite literal and not a joke.
You truly believe that "all religion is a lie"?
Did we create ourselves? Did we come from absolutely nothing? Both are some of the most important rhetorical questions an (assumed) atheist could ponder.
I never used to believe in God at all when seeking scientific knowledge about the Universe, I understand both sides of argument.
@HannoverFisk Which is what is apparently true, isn't it? If not, please tell me about before you were born? I'm sure everyone would love to hear that description. In truth, however, there was never a state of absolute "nothing". It's pretty safe to assume that is impossible. The only true "nothing" is that is has not been created or just not yet.
I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
As the saying goes - "..What the mind can conceive, the body (man) can achieve.." Thus.., how can science win, when it is only the devise & tool of man. Science is only useful to enhance for the comfort, pleasure, ease & convenience of man.., but not for his spiritual well-being.
Who then.., had devised the man's mind (intelligence) and man's material body..? Science is no contest and cannot answer that.., only True Religious Teaching can answer that question.. !
@HannoverFisk This concept came from European cultural legacy against Christianity in particular, as a result of centuries of backwardness, ignorance and religious persecution, done by the Christian clergy, I don't blame any European on his hatred of Christianity at all, but Islam is something completely different, Islam is the religion of science, and research, Islam taught all humans the natural sciences, through a long series of Muslim scholars. Algebra, logarithms, medicine.etc
@Zaloso201 If Muslims were so advanced scientifically 1200 years ago, what HAPPENED to the education process in the world of Islam? I submit that Islam has destroyed itself and its followers over time -- with true education supplanted by time consuming rote memorization of the Quran and other useless endeavors. Believing is one thing, but being crippled by belief is quite another. Muslims should strive to regain their learned past -- for the good of themselves and all mankind!
@MsBaystater what happend is Something terrible, Muslim was killed by terrorists Europeans, and then steal all the books and Islamic scientific research, and translated from Arabic, yes everything was stolen from muslim by Europe's and then was able to develop science, fueling conflict between the Muslim world, in order to mislead Muslims busy with war. This is what actually happened, with the time backwardness and decline of Muslims become like what you see it today!!!! sorry.
@irphan213 No it is not, proof: 90% of islamic nations are underdeveloped, or as they call them third-world countries. Except for a few, including Iran, even in the case of Iran islam has been more of a barrier to its development by stifling the nations' talents through out the history and not an encouraging force.
@MrJoseph1966 What's your reference? I know for a fact, by a genetic research that has been carried out by a group of scientists at Portsmouth in UK headed by an Iranian prof reported on BBC that the arab-Persian genetic mix is hyped up and is in fact almost non-existant, which makes perfect sense given how muslim arabs massacred Iranians, at one occasion reported to have slaughtered so many ppl and ran a water mill with ppl's blood to make flour then baked the flour in bread and feasted.
p8. Also I noticed the music at the beginning of this documentary with the female voice, singing, is a Persian traditional song by an Iranian famous singer, ironically Islamic Shariah is strictly against female singing and declares it outright Haraam! And yet Khalili chooses to play that song to display a so so hypocritical/moderate face of Islam which doesn't exist. In Islam your either a muslim or you're not subject to your compliance with the devine code of life, simple as that.
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat You don't know what a Muslim is. You know what you think a Muslim is, but this faith can not be fully understood and appreciated from the outside. The unseen world is only partially measurable and knowable by observation and analysis. As people gain certainty in the unseen and lose their dependence on the physical, they change. Those who wish to search, but "under their own pre-conditions," find a wall before them, and yet they opine from ignorance.
@Zaloso201 Wrong trick on the wrong guy... I'm an ex-muslim, I was born to a muslim family, raised as a muslim until I quit ISlam few years ago. So no I'm sorry I've heard all excuses and justifications that you can think of before making up my mind, I'd suggest you be honest with yourself and read the quran for what it is in an unbiased manner and see through it. Once you do that you will also quit Islam if you're a decent human being.
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat Assuming you are not lying, I hope Allah sets you straight. If you never connected with your Creator and your brothers in Deen then I can see why the Qur'an scares you. It used to scare me when I was a selfish lawyer in the US, ignoring his spiritual heritage because I believed all the high-minded babble coming out of that place. But Allah is Good and Patient and Merciful when we blame ourselves and not The One who gave us everything. He Owns us! Now go read it...
@Zaloso201 Quran doesn't scare me my friend, after reading it 5 times it just doesn't make sense to me, it contradicts itself and the description it gives of god is far from a benevolent entity, it's more like a mentally deranged one just like the Judaism and Christianity, which to me is quite unfair to god if there's a god out there, whom above all should be the most reasonable being. No one owns human beings, we're free, and if you ever doubt that try killing urself, see if anybody stops you.
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat May Allah Grant you--because you get NOTHING without Him--some self-critical ability and may He Grant you the courage to use it. I feel bad for your soul...
@Zaloso201 I feel bad for you cuz ur not using ur head, the only thing that can make changes and give u joy in ur short privileged experience called life. Use ur brain, ur intelligence... religious hogwash will just waste it...
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat A privilege is something Granted you... The shortness of life is a fact that Owns you... You call on me to use intelligence, but you just used your intelligence to prove that Allah Owns you and me and Granted you and me life for a short a time. And you correctly called it a priviledge. Those like you must use the words that prove Him to try to disprove Him. You've tied yourself up in a knott.
@Zaloso201 It's easy to SAY "Allah is Good and Patient and Merciful" but it's easy to SEE that Allah's patience and mercy only apply to those who submit. For the rest of us? The fires of hell. Lovely.
@MsBaystater I suggest that Allah really Has Mercy and Patience for all of mankind. Not everyone who believes (or tries to believe) is on the same level, and not everyone who disbelieves is on the same level. If a person very openly opposes what is obvious to anyone who thinks about it (that is, 1) everything that exists is Ordered and Planned Intelligently, and 2) this intelligent planning and ordering STRONGLY SUGGESTS Oneness), then why should this person not be punished?
@Zaloso201 However, some who disbelieve have legitimate doubts; something may be making it hard for them to see or come to terms with what is (I will grant you) a big idea. This is not opposing the truth, but is maybe better called misunderstanding. These people have the right and duty to inquire, but with humility, and a full knowledge that they are the needy ones--not Allah.
@Zaloso201 You speak in non-sequitors that seem lofty until you try to understand your meaning. What you say is at most vapid. As vapid as: "Faith is that in which one must trust the hunger of his heart, while not longing for the peanut butter that can only be found in the most sacred of grocery stores." Huh? "As people gain certainty in the unseen and lose their dependence on the physical, they change." Huh? They become blind submissives, aka Muslims. Alas, Islam is gobbledygook and blather.
p7. As a result the god hypothesis becomes redundant, and upon so acknowledging, your life would be jeopardised by Islam and the Islamic Shariah which states the punishment of apostasy is execution by beheading. This is a crystal clear case of incompatibility of Islam or any other faith for that matter with science and anyone who denies it is either in oblivion or is a hypocrite. (cont. p8)
p6. Or consider the earlier example of quantum fluctuations responsible for the big bang out of sheer random minute statistical hike, this effectively takes the concept of god out of the equation in its entirety, and does so by logic, reason, rigorous mathematics and confirming reliable and verifiable objective physical evidence that are replicable in any well equipped physics lab, let alone the HADRON collider at CERN (cont. p7).
p5. For some reason muslim community insists on labelling all scientific achievements of that period as "Islamic" which can't be further from the truth, cuz as I said earlier science and religion are utterly incompatible, simply consider the following; modern science 100% proves Darwinian evolution and makes the proof air tight using genetic analysis reconfirming the fossil records, now this idea is in complete defiance of devine creation. (cont. p6)
p4. Persian great polymaths like Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Kharazmi, Biruni, Khayyam, Razi, Balkhi, Bukhari, Farabi, Geber, and many more scientists of Persian origin whom are collectively credited over 70%-75% of aggregate discoveries and advancements of science at the golden age of eastern scientific flourishing period. And Khalili to me seems to be disturbed by this and thus ignores giving credit where it's due so to keep the overall balance (if any). (cont. p5)
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat Well, for your information at that time Arabian empire was from Spain to the borders of China and it contained Persia....And for your information neither Egyptians nor persians, iraqis , syrians and so on are arabs BUT MUSLIMS....And we all Followed the same code of law from God and that is how we was....Criticizing the Arabs cuz they were one of the greatest people on earth and you've got a problem with us thats your problem.
@MrJoseph1966 I don't follow ur reasoning. firstly, there has never been an "arabian empire". Second, it's rather laughable how u include Persians as arabs lol Persians are Persian, arabs are arabs, 2 completely separate racial lines, arabs are semitic, while Persians are Indo-European. These are well accepted facts... Egyptians rn't arabs either, they're Egyptians! Lebanese rn't arabs, they're Phoenicians... real arabs r confined to saudi arabia, state of which came into existence in 1930's.
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat and actually there are many Arab Scientists like Noor adin al-Betrugi (Astronomer),Ibn al-Nafis(Physician),Ibn Al-Thahabi (Physcian),Al-Zarqali (mathematician),Muhammad alMuqadassi (geographer),Jabir ibn Aflah (mathematician and astronomer),Alhazen (mathematician, physician,philiosphy and astronomer.Yeah Persians contributed alot over 70-75% of discoveries of golden age cuz there were arabs..and in school i memorized lots and lots of scientists like these
@MrJoseph1966 "Persians contributed... cuz there were arabs"??! Not following... clarify. I'm sure there've been some arab scientists with not many significant achievements as the well known Persian counterparts, hence their obscurity amongst non arab nations and cultures... it is undeniable that over 70% of the so-called "islamic science" was made possible by Persian scientists, which only to be expected given the rich background history and cultural foundations.
p3. he decidedly chooses not to give enough credit where it's due, for example where he brings up the Kharazmi's name and his contributions, he doesn't make any references to Kharazmi's origins and nationality and the fact that he was a Persian polymath. I can only attribute this to the fact that over 70% of the muslim scientists at the time who truly contributed sth to the body of knowledge were Persians and Khalili doesn't obviously want to acknowledge that for unknown reasons. (cont. p4)
p2. quantum mechanics explains the origin of universe and big bang quite possibly in the best rational way which doesn't require no magic, it's just a product of subatomic quantum scale virtual particle burst of particles inflated and expanded, and considering the recent developments on the multiverse hypothesis it will get much more interesting and further substantiative. But what repels me the most in the documentary is how Khalili chooses to not acknowledge certain aspects. (cont. p3)
I find the dishonest biased report of Al Khalili rather disappointing. I'm a big fan of his documentaries, but this one's just ridiculous, here's why: Science and Faith are not compatible in no way, science is based on empiricism and objectivity while faith is based on belief and subjectivity, I'll try to show this in a reductio ad absurdum; the concept of and interfering God in today's scientific literature is considered obsolete, and rightly so, as I'm sure Khalili knows too (cont. p2)
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat The function of faith in science is to encourage wo/man to believe that there must be more to reality than Science can currently decipher. It is this that can lead people to question after than which was previously beyond the realm of scientific interest, thus extending its boundaries past its previous auspices. The scientific revolution wasn't anti-religion. They were taking the natural road from faith to certainty. Both are part of a symbiotic whole.
@according2ed Non-overlapping magisteria is a cheap trick, a dishonest attempt and a fallacious premis with no standing valid argument. It's very simple, faith hold a concept of heaven and hell, or even a loving god in the skies, where as according to science no such thing as "sky" exists technically. There's outer space, but no sky.
Koran contains NO scientific truth. But greedy scientists, in exchange of gold and silver from Saudi USA-petro-$, are discovering science everyday in that wretched book Koran that teaches sex, violence, criminalism and mass massacre.
Big Bang model starts from infinitely hot and infinitely dense matter. Koranic Allah claims he created this earth & seven heavens OUT OF NOTHING
This concept violates the established law of physics, mass cannot be created out of nothingness.
@ritchloui .Brothers i asked you books which has scientific proofs not the non-sense theories and philosophy . Even i can write one, as the years roll by it may also become popular like the Darwin's theory. The Darwin's theory was just a letter written by Darwin to his friend explaining what he thought, and it was not a scientific proof.We do read books of Shakespeare and Dawkins, that's not enough, you need to research what could have created us.Only answers i would give is ALLAH.
The Prophet (SAWA) said, ‘The knowledgeable man is superior to the [mere] worshipper by seventy degrees, the distance between two degrees spanning the gallop of a horse for seventy years; and this is because Satan plants an innovation amongst people which the knowledgeable man notices and prohibits, whilst the worshipper attends to his worship neither taking any notice of it nor recognising it.
It is absolutely laughable that we are expected to believe that illiterate desert slavers made any contribution to science and mathematics. They didn't. Not one innovation originated from Arabia. These bandits conquered advanced civilisations and, along with their wealth, appropriated all their achievements as their own. Typical of thieves really; steal something then deny the theft.
Nobody says that illiterate desert slavers made any contribution to science and mathematics. Learn to read. We are saying that Muslims, including Arabs such as Alkindi, advanced the human civilization in philosophy, natural sciences, arts etc...
By the way, in the 7th century there was no civilization in Egypt (It was under dirty Byzantine occupation) or in North Africa. Even the Persian empire was very weak and at its lowest point ever.
@wikiyas What are you interested in? There are so many wonderful books about all sorts of things. You could do worse than get the Collected Works of Shakespeare. Richard Dawkins of course has written a number of brilliant books on evolution. You Tube is heaving with fabulous lectures on just about every subject you can imagine. I've put together some Playlists of various subjects; History, Philosophy, Economics, all sorts. Try user/ritchloui#grid/user/5F6A9939ED3D827F :)
Medieval Islam inherited regions with a great pre-islamic civilization, such as Persia and North Africa, it is therefore not surprising that none of the scientists ever came from the heartland of Islam itself - Arabia.
The scientists put the Quran aside and worked with the natural world around them. Their success had nothing to do with their religion, which a lot of them didn't really believe in anyway.
No science ever came out of the Quran. Unless you think a flying donkey is science.
All civilizations build upon earlier civilizations. No civilization is ever born in a vacuum. There were several scientists from Arabia by the way, most notably the great philosopher Alkindi.
All medieval scientists and philosophers were religious Muslims and put forward great philosophical defenses of the existence of God and Islam. Stop listening to atheist propaganda.
The Buraq is not mentioned in the Quran by the way. It is a medieval invention. Yet I do not understand why you keep mentioning it as if God could not create a buraq to fly a person from one place to another? It shows your ignorance and superficiality.
I read the Israa chapter. There is no "flying horse" or "donkey" as you said in verse 1. God transferred the Prophet by himself.
God can create anything that is logically possible. So He could if He wanted to create a flying horse or any kind of creature.
I do not believe in fairy tales. It is who believe in fairy tales like life coming from inanimate matter and something like the universe coming from nothing.
@Ahmad1Salam Only religious people assert that the universe came from Nothing. It's pure religious propaganda about what Science is and says. No credible scientist, nor anyone who knows anything about cosmology can claim that the universe came from Nothing. And to prove it, tell me where exactly you got the information that the Science says the Universe came from Nothing.... I bet it's not a credible scientist.
I did not say that science says that the universe came from nothing so please do not make this seem like science and religion make mutually exclusive claims. I said that atheists believe that the universe came from nothing. You seem not to believe in that which is very good and I am happy that you rebuke this.
Religionists do not say that the universe came from nothing. They say that it came from God. You say that the universe came from something. What is that something? And where did it come from? You cannot go back infinitely and so we must stop at a necessarily existing being.
@MMAC0RE Well said. Religion and nature of mankind should never be confused. It is religion that directs man and his nature to its most perfect and pious form. All religions have people in them which are evil but the good people outweigh the bad heavily. I also respect Christianity and hold it in very high regard as I believe Jesus Christ was a prophet of God. It's just sad to see so many people destroying the name of Islam it really breaks my heart. I'm Muslim and i've never harmed anyone. :)
@screwopenborders He doesn't have to you can look it up for yourself what gives you the right to demand something?If you want to learn something about islam learn Arabic and study the Quran and don't read it in translated form cause that's not 100% translated good.
@wikiyas I hope you are being satirical; there is nothing resembling 'knowledge' in the Koran. That is a complete misconception. The Koran is a series of mystical pronouncements, threats and promises by a bronze age bandit slaver. Despite the HUGE head start from its conquests, fundamental Islam retards societies to the whims of the ignorant nomadic slavers of Arabia from which the Islamic ideology originated. Believing the Koran is like picking at a scab to heal the wound.
The Quran is all about knowledge of how to attain guidance in this life to survive in the next. It prohibits slavery and the Prophet Muhammad did not live in the Bronze Age. Muslim societies were very advanced for almost 1000 years, and not all of them are "retards" today by the way. The reason for the regression is mainly political and because of the colonialism too.
@Ahmad1Salam There is little to learn from an ideology that systematically hides its crimes and idealizes itself. Islam is cannot survive the information age. The 'advanced societies' that you call 'Muslim' were already advanced. However, the societies that were destroyed by Islam such as those in Africa were reduced to a degree of destitution and criminality they have never recovered. Furthermore FGM has followed Islam around the world like a bad smell.
You are a wishful thinker. Islam is ideal because it is the religion of God. Crimes? What crimes? The Quran forbids all forms of crime. The advanced societies were not advanced. They were retarded under Byzantine occupation. In Africa many Muslim dynasties flourished by the way. And today all African countries are full of destitution and criminality whether they are Pagan, Muslim or Christian. FGM is prohibited in the Quran.
@Ahmad1Salam The Byzantine Empire was only one of the advanced civilisations with the wealth of knowledge appropriated by Islam, and it certainly did not 'occupy' Persia or India or China. Islam will not survive the information age if it relies so heavily on misinformation to keep its followers in line. FGM is practiced far and wide in the world, as an Islamic practice and regarded as such by those who practice it. It is not forbidden in the Koran - you should read it some time.
@MMAC0RE Arabic is not my native language either, but I got interested after watching this video (Science and Islam). I found this simple Arabic for beginners course on youtube, which maybe you (or someone else) will find interesting: v=abDMtGPkJIo "Learn Arabic - Lesson 1 (Part 1) - The Arabic Alphabet" (user arabicdashstudio). There are also grammar lessons.
One example of "authority" which stands in the way of a new scientific Islamic golden age is Harun Yahya. (People who reads or listens to his material risk getting behind in areas such as biology/evolution, i.e. it has a detrimental effect on scientific fields such as Genetics.) Another example is if religious leaders say that science is bad because it is "western". More people in the Islamic world need to stand up and dare to critizise such authority, if things are to move forward.
Al-Khalili has stated that, "as the son of a Protestant Christian mother and a Shia Muslim father, I have nevertheless ended up without a religious bone in my body"
Scientific progress follows money, yes, but equally important (as hinted in this program) is to be able to question authority. The islamic scientists questioned the greeks; Galileo and Darwin went against [religious] dogma in their time.
This program shows scientists in today's Iran, but the other side of the coin is that religious leaders in Iran tell people that earthquakes are caused by women dresing "improperly". It's sad when religion (and their leaders) interfere with science and reason.
I was orginally surprised that the BBC was doing a documentary like this. Being a Muslim I couldn't help how understated the contributions were from Islam, and it would be suggested that the people of Islam were interested in knowledge for astrology, and alchemy. Besides that the idea that Islam had a competition for money going on is simple not the truth. Maybe I am biased, but this was disgusting to me with many things read into the history of Islam and science, and many minimized points.
This documentary is extremely dishonest, even thought it is only on one point.
It says that Islam contributed to science, and that is incorrect. No religion or their reasoning have ever contributed to science. The people behind the science might have been religious (such as Newton) but it has nothing to do with the methods used (completely secular) nor with the contributions made.
They are being directly dishonest and confusing to people who are ignorant of religion.
@Dimajo What he means is that due to certain texts and versus in the Qur-an such as "Allah didn't send an illness without sending a cure" to my mind that means there is a cure there I have to do the science to find it.
I am not a Muslim and I deeply understand the importance of that verse and its affect on people and the way it would have moved them. There is also a verse there that makes correct statements of the shape of the earth and the movement of it in the Qur-an.
Pakis and all Muslims beg to live in the Western nations yet when given a chance, they spit back to condemn and demand to change the Western culture to theirs.All Muslim nations are third world nations with Islamic people who just hate and distrust infidels because the Koran orders them to do so. Muhammad's Koran mission is to make ill the minds of fast producing maggots Muslims who have no sense between reality and fantasy.Islam is a dumb fuck tale for a psycho by a crackpot Muhammad.
@bobbyjans Bravo you just demonstrated what religion is all about. Ignore the evidence and observations so that belief can be preserved ;) (ignore the "haters")
No religion, is in harmony with science, they are the direct enemy of science, and they all leed to an intellectual dead end when questions of life are posed, with an "answer" that means nothing.
to understand the dishonesty of this documentary please see my previous comment.
The praise goes solely to science, and not religion.
Videos like this are fantastic...Although I bet the 5 dislikes are REPUBLICANS from America...Not only do they DESPISE Science & Facts but they of course hate the idea that Muslims contributed anything to the global society. And of course the idea they saved most or the info we in the West, the Christians, burnt & forbid anyone to study for a 1000yrs. On the flip side hopefully Muslims will be able to come back into the fold & help humanity like they once did. Thank-you BBC!
@MMAC0RE Well said here. I agree with you. Plus, I don't agree with fanatics, extremists or militants of carrying any ideology, whether it be religious or non-religious.
9:36 you say founder of Islam is muhammad? He is the last prophet meaning there's a 1st one! Islam is Allah's religion! Allah is the founder who created it! Got it?!
Hindi words didnt come from Hindi, its actually came from word 'Hindasah', meaning 'the art of geometry'. Reference "Islam and Evolution of Science" by Dr. Muhammad Saud, page#25, line#8. Thanx!
A neat, tendentious and politically correct BBC history production. Their presenters seem to "forget the base degrees by which they did ascend" to an upper middle class salary and life style and, without humility, arrogate to themselves the authority of past religious and scientific scholars to their imagined applause of the TV License payer.
I am a Muslim and(or should i say but?) a Filipino. I really wish i can already speak Arabic fluently T_T I am really working hard now to achieve that wish/goal. Inshaallah I will one day talk like i have never spoke/known any other language except for Arabic.
THE MIRACLES OF PAIN RECEPTORS IN THE QURAN SURAH NISA VERSE 56
Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Ayat (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment. Truly, Allah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.
@SAJEDMUNIR That's no Miracle, Many Muslims claim all the Faulty Verses that Modern Science disproves, Scary Verses that threaten Death, Pain, Suffering as Miracles to Cleverly hide the Facts and distract people from the Original Significance of those verses - They are all FAKE.
I cant understand why, but i just love how beautifull the man writes in arababic on 15:55. I get totally mezmerized. I can watch that for hours i bett
@jubelletoledo I would like to tell you that in Bible there is not a single verse where Jesus (peace be upon him) says that "I am God or worship me ". In fact in Gospel of John Ch. 14 verse 28, it says "My father is greater than I".Gospel of Luke, Ch. 11 verse 20 " I cast out devil, with the finger of Lord" Gospel of John ch. 5 verse 30 "I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
@STRsAadi dearest brother, thanks for the comment and merry christmas too :-)
as u know our faith is rooted from abraham (judaism) for jesus to verbally claim he is God is blasphemy and punishable by death. the jews dont even utter the name of God.or write it for fear of blasphemy.so jesus did it in a very wise way "i am the way, the truth and the life" and "for God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son and whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." :-)
@jubelletoledo Well if u christians say that Jesus(PBUH) is the son of man or the root sprung from Adam, then I strongly agree with that. but the moment u say begotten son of God as he was the only prophet to be born by a virgin woman, Mary(PBU Her), but if this was the reason why u people call him through that, then Adam(PBUH) is a greater prophet than Jesus, bcz then he had no mother nor any father. Thats why terms describing Jesus(PBUH) prophecy should be carefully used. Ihope ths clearify
But we highly respect and love Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) and accept him as a Messiah sent to Children of Israel with the Gospel and Law. A Muslim can't really be a Muslim if they do not love him. Muslims believe his second coming which will be the major sign of Judgment Day. He will kill the Anti-Christ (Dajjal) in his second coming. Jesus never actually claimed divinity so its revealed in Quran by God.
@sairaxmaira la ilaha ilallah, and i believe in that.. but jesus did something in my life many times, i do believe in miracles :-) our faith (abrahamic faith) is based on Judaism..Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecy written in the torah. the jews are still waiting for their messiah until now but the christians and musims wait for the 2nd coming. the difference was that we have a different understanding and belief of the messiah.
Miracles comes from God not his creation dear. Well, you believe there is no God but God. Do you believe in the last Prophet send to mankind, Mohammad (SAAW)? I just read his biography by Martin Lings in which many Christian and Jews monks knew that a Prophet was soon to come to Arabs. In Bible, Jesus prophesied his coming. I suggest you should read Mohammad: His life based on earliest sources by Lings, he was a convert to Islam or The Life and Work of Muhammad by Emerick.
@sairaxmaira of course i did study about Mohammad and his prophet hood. I know that its a christian priest the cousin of khadija that convince her, that her husband is a prophet.
I know the history of Islam, the dark side of catholicism, and about the culture of the jews and judaism.
I know somewhere in the future we will understand and things will be revealed that this 3 religion doesnt really contradict. Deus Voolt, Inshaallah
Bro/Sis our belief is not actually based on Judaism, there are similarities indeed. We follow the religion of Abraham (PBUH) and he came before Moses and Jesus. "Verily my Lord hath guided me to a way that is straight, a religion of right, the path trodden by Abraham the true in faith and he was not one of idolaters. 6:161 So are you a Muslim or still studying Islam? I myself reverted to Islam few months back. Alhumdulillah! Mankind should follow, Quran the last revelation.
@jubelletoledo i thank u for sincerly replying to my comment brother, but when Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) lived, this disciples wrote the words down that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) said and that what through God was completing his message to any people who do not believe in God. The Quran was complete during Prophet Muhammad's(PBUH) lifetime. And Islam was spread through the knowledge the muslims presented through the Quran. Tell u what u brother u can watch the movie the "message". Its quite touching.
Jesus said, 'I am a servant of ALLAH. HE has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet; 'And HE has made me blessed where I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live; 'And HE has made me dutiful towards my mother, has not made me arrogant and graceless; peace be on the day I was born, and peace will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.' That was Jesus, son of Mary.19:30-35
@sairaxmaira dear brother or sister thanks for the comments. i do appreciate it a lot... as i have realized, the more people know about any things the more his faith is being put to a question... some of the teachings of islam i do truly admire, i believe islam is about peace and about submission. (those terrorist and fanatics have degraded the Islamic faith by crying and killing in the name of God, i dont believe that this people are real muslims)
@jubelletoledo No brother tell me as Abraham is one of the most important prophets in all three religions and why dont we worship him that is because he told us to worship the one lord. God talked to Prophet Moses(PBUH) most of the time and gave the instruction that the children of Israel should worship him not Moses(PBUH) or any other prophet. Islam believes in all prophets while no other religion does so. Doesnt it feel good, that you can believe in Jesus as well as other prophets in Islam.
@anserhasan i actually dont understand where ur comments came from...the rest of the prophets u mentions were prophets and shouldnt be worshiped..i agree with that....but JESUS aka ISA is the "son of man" he is "God that became a man not a man who became a God" and that is the main faith of christianity.
@anserhasan a point of view and its a fact. the qur-an was written decades after Mohamad died, the verses were just memorized..the first caliph wanted it to be preserved in written form so those who had memorized the verses from mohamad was written down.there should be 4 people who knew that verse..as u know mohamad dont know how to read and write.
same thing with the new testament. it was compiled 300 years after jesus died...so all of this were mad by man
@GSeleena I care not if you are a woman or not you fucking slut and I have no interest other than to insult you who wants to praise your cocksucking faggot religion
@Sardrith thats really funny. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM, you just pissed of cuz its the real religion and Qur'an wasnt re-written unlike bible. Too bad. Also you know nothing about me to judge me and calling me names. I really feel sorry for you dear Sardith.
@GSeleena you think women are held in higher regard in your religion? look at those who get stoned to death for being unfaithful, you think that's nice huh? ugly fucking cunt, suck pigcocks
@Sardrith I think you are really unhappy with your life thats why you are here, keep watching videos about Islam, trying so hard to fand some negative aspects. You found nothing, you got pissed of. Islam teachs that we have to forgive when we angry, i guess you should do the same :)
@GSeleena islam doesnt teach us to forgive when someone abuse us or talk the way u did about our prophet ... we have selfdefence... u have to learn to not say sucha ting u did if u are better. ACTION=REACTION........ SHAME ON U ....
@Sardrith not every muslim is a muslim, same as not every christian is a real christian. They make rules for themselves. ask a real muslim how does she feel, i bet she is happy.
@GSeleena the fact that you identify yourself as a moslem first and human second tells me all I need to know about you, same as people who see themselves as christian, buddhists, hindu or whatever, fucking retarded shitheads that eat shit for food and loves to drink sperm
KONY 2012
frilink 19 hours ago
Your god can't make me do anything.
HannoverFisk 2 days ago
It wasnt arabian empire.. It has always been the islamic empire..
De8ngelLeague 1 week ago
Why is it that most people differentiate the two things: Science and Religion? It's the same thing.
abdulah786 2 weeks ago
@abdulah786 science and religion are not the same. because science says so
HannoverFisk 1 week ago
@HannoverFisk Hahahaa. I like that. I'm reading some of your comments though and it's seeming to me that the above comment you meant as quite literal and not a joke.
You truly believe that "all religion is a lie"?
Did we create ourselves? Did we come from absolutely nothing? Both are some of the most important rhetorical questions an (assumed) atheist could ponder.
I never used to believe in God at all when seeking scientific knowledge about the Universe, I understand both sides of argument.
abdulah786 1 week ago
@abdulah786 Only religion says we were created and that we came from nothing.
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@HannoverFisk Which is what is apparently true, isn't it? If not, please tell me about before you were born? I'm sure everyone would love to hear that description. In truth, however, there was never a state of absolute "nothing". It's pretty safe to assume that is impossible. The only true "nothing" is that is has not been created or just not yet.
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abdulah786 2 days ago
@HannoverFisk In the Quran there is an amazing science facts which were mentioned since more than1400 years ago.
AYMEN1988N 4 days ago
@AYMEN1988N Like what??
HannoverFisk 4 days ago
@HannoverFisk Hello, again, would you watch this vid ? /watch?v=akdd0TNMCuA
AYMEN1988N 3 days ago
I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
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Xiaolian7 3 weeks ago
They say science only goes so far and then there is God
LayalLatiina 3 weeks ago
@LayalLatiina Could you answer me, who created us ?
AYMEN1988N 4 days ago
"Science will win because it's useful" All religions are a lie
HannoverFisk 3 weeks ago
@HannoverFisk
As the saying goes - "..What the mind can conceive, the body (man) can achieve.." Thus.., how can science win, when it is only the devise & tool of man. Science is only useful to enhance for the comfort, pleasure, ease & convenience of man.., but not for his spiritual well-being.
Who then.., had devised the man's mind (intelligence) and man's material body..? Science is no contest and cannot answer that.., only True Religious Teaching can answer that question.. !
myway12345 1 week ago
@HannoverFisk This concept came from European cultural legacy against Christianity in particular, as a result of centuries of backwardness, ignorance and religious persecution, done by the Christian clergy, I don't blame any European on his hatred of Christianity at all, but Islam is something completely different, Islam is the religion of science, and research, Islam taught all humans the natural sciences, through a long series of Muslim scholars. Algebra, logarithms, medicine.etc
Libyanohawk 1 week ago
@HannoverFisk ur such an athiest worst than worm!
xprofilenar2 4 days ago in playlist Islam
@Zaloso201 If Muslims were so advanced scientifically 1200 years ago, what HAPPENED to the education process in the world of Islam? I submit that Islam has destroyed itself and its followers over time -- with true education supplanted by time consuming rote memorization of the Quran and other useless endeavors. Believing is one thing, but being crippled by belief is quite another. Muslims should strive to regain their learned past -- for the good of themselves and all mankind!
MsBaystater 1 month ago
@MsBaystater what happend is Something terrible, Muslim was killed by terrorists Europeans, and then steal all the books and Islamic scientific research, and translated from Arabic, yes everything was stolen from muslim by Europe's and then was able to develop science, fueling conflict between the Muslim world, in order to mislead Muslims busy with war. This is what actually happened, with the time backwardness and decline of Muslims become like what you see it today!!!! sorry.
Libyanohawk 1 month ago
@Libyanohawk Ha haha whatever
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nahum452452 1 month ago
Islam Is The key to success.
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@irphan213 No it is not, proof: 90% of islamic nations are underdeveloped, or as they call them third-world countries. Except for a few, including Iran, even in the case of Iran islam has been more of a barrier to its development by stifling the nations' talents through out the history and not an encouraging force.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
فيه حد هنا بيتكلم عربي؟
دول حطوا همزة في(ال) في كلمة (العلم)
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جهلة!
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@MrJoseph1966 My References:
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SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
@MrJoseph1966 What's your reference? I know for a fact, by a genetic research that has been carried out by a group of scientists at Portsmouth in UK headed by an Iranian prof reported on BBC that the arab-Persian genetic mix is hyped up and is in fact almost non-existant, which makes perfect sense given how muslim arabs massacred Iranians, at one occasion reported to have slaughtered so many ppl and ran a water mill with ppl's blood to make flour then baked the flour in bread and feasted.
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SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
p8. Also I noticed the music at the beginning of this documentary with the female voice, singing, is a Persian traditional song by an Iranian famous singer, ironically Islamic Shariah is strictly against female singing and declares it outright Haraam! And yet Khalili chooses to play that song to display a so so hypocritical/moderate face of Islam which doesn't exist. In Islam your either a muslim or you're not subject to your compliance with the devine code of life, simple as that.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat Get a life man.
grovestreet33 1 month ago
@grovestreet33 That's the best counter argument you could come up with? Really? Pathetic....
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat You don't know what a Muslim is. You know what you think a Muslim is, but this faith can not be fully understood and appreciated from the outside. The unseen world is only partially measurable and knowable by observation and analysis. As people gain certainty in the unseen and lose their dependence on the physical, they change. Those who wish to search, but "under their own pre-conditions," find a wall before them, and yet they opine from ignorance.
Zaloso201 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 Wrong trick on the wrong guy... I'm an ex-muslim, I was born to a muslim family, raised as a muslim until I quit ISlam few years ago. So no I'm sorry I've heard all excuses and justifications that you can think of before making up my mind, I'd suggest you be honest with yourself and read the quran for what it is in an unbiased manner and see through it. Once you do that you will also quit Islam if you're a decent human being.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat Assuming you are not lying, I hope Allah sets you straight. If you never connected with your Creator and your brothers in Deen then I can see why the Qur'an scares you. It used to scare me when I was a selfish lawyer in the US, ignoring his spiritual heritage because I believed all the high-minded babble coming out of that place. But Allah is Good and Patient and Merciful when we blame ourselves and not The One who gave us everything. He Owns us! Now go read it...
Zaloso201 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 Quran doesn't scare me my friend, after reading it 5 times it just doesn't make sense to me, it contradicts itself and the description it gives of god is far from a benevolent entity, it's more like a mentally deranged one just like the Judaism and Christianity, which to me is quite unfair to god if there's a god out there, whom above all should be the most reasonable being. No one owns human beings, we're free, and if you ever doubt that try killing urself, see if anybody stops you.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat Like I said, I hope Allah sets you straight. You'll learn a lot about yourself and what controls you, Insha'Allah.
Zaloso201 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 And I hope you come to your senses and recover your critical faculties.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat May Allah Grant you--because you get NOTHING without Him--some self-critical ability and may He Grant you the courage to use it. I feel bad for your soul...
Zaloso201 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 I feel bad for you cuz ur not using ur head, the only thing that can make changes and give u joy in ur short privileged experience called life. Use ur brain, ur intelligence... religious hogwash will just waste it...
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat A privilege is something Granted you... The shortness of life is a fact that Owns you... You call on me to use intelligence, but you just used your intelligence to prove that Allah Owns you and me and Granted you and me life for a short a time. And you correctly called it a priviledge. Those like you must use the words that prove Him to try to disprove Him. You've tied yourself up in a knott.
Zaloso201 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 Nonsense
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 It's easy to SAY "Allah is Good and Patient and Merciful" but it's easy to SEE that Allah's patience and mercy only apply to those who submit. For the rest of us? The fires of hell. Lovely.
MsBaystater 1 month ago
@MsBaystater I suggest that Allah really Has Mercy and Patience for all of mankind. Not everyone who believes (or tries to believe) is on the same level, and not everyone who disbelieves is on the same level. If a person very openly opposes what is obvious to anyone who thinks about it (that is, 1) everything that exists is Ordered and Planned Intelligently, and 2) this intelligent planning and ordering STRONGLY SUGGESTS Oneness), then why should this person not be punished?
Zaloso201 1 month ago
@Zaloso201 However, some who disbelieve have legitimate doubts; something may be making it hard for them to see or come to terms with what is (I will grant you) a big idea. This is not opposing the truth, but is maybe better called misunderstanding. These people have the right and duty to inquire, but with humility, and a full knowledge that they are the needy ones--not Allah.
Zaloso201 1 month ago
This is something even believers or submitters struggle with, and it is really where one can see Allah's Patience and Mercy best.
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@Zaloso201 You speak in non-sequitors that seem lofty until you try to understand your meaning. What you say is at most vapid. As vapid as: "Faith is that in which one must trust the hunger of his heart, while not longing for the peanut butter that can only be found in the most sacred of grocery stores." Huh? "As people gain certainty in the unseen and lose their dependence on the physical, they change." Huh? They become blind submissives, aka Muslims. Alas, Islam is gobbledygook and blather.
MsBaystater 1 month ago
p7. As a result the god hypothesis becomes redundant, and upon so acknowledging, your life would be jeopardised by Islam and the Islamic Shariah which states the punishment of apostasy is execution by beheading. This is a crystal clear case of incompatibility of Islam or any other faith for that matter with science and anyone who denies it is either in oblivion or is a hypocrite. (cont. p8)
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
p6. Or consider the earlier example of quantum fluctuations responsible for the big bang out of sheer random minute statistical hike, this effectively takes the concept of god out of the equation in its entirety, and does so by logic, reason, rigorous mathematics and confirming reliable and verifiable objective physical evidence that are replicable in any well equipped physics lab, let alone the HADRON collider at CERN (cont. p7).
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
p5. For some reason muslim community insists on labelling all scientific achievements of that period as "Islamic" which can't be further from the truth, cuz as I said earlier science and religion are utterly incompatible, simply consider the following; modern science 100% proves Darwinian evolution and makes the proof air tight using genetic analysis reconfirming the fossil records, now this idea is in complete defiance of devine creation. (cont. p6)
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
p4. Persian great polymaths like Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Kharazmi, Biruni, Khayyam, Razi, Balkhi, Bukhari, Farabi, Geber, and many more scientists of Persian origin whom are collectively credited over 70%-75% of aggregate discoveries and advancements of science at the golden age of eastern scientific flourishing period. And Khalili to me seems to be disturbed by this and thus ignores giving credit where it's due so to keep the overall balance (if any). (cont. p5)
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat Well, for your information at that time Arabian empire was from Spain to the borders of China and it contained Persia....And for your information neither Egyptians nor persians, iraqis , syrians and so on are arabs BUT MUSLIMS....And we all Followed the same code of law from God and that is how we was....Criticizing the Arabs cuz they were one of the greatest people on earth and you've got a problem with us thats your problem.
MrJoseph1966 3 months ago
@MrJoseph1966 I don't follow ur reasoning. firstly, there has never been an "arabian empire". Second, it's rather laughable how u include Persians as arabs lol Persians are Persian, arabs are arabs, 2 completely separate racial lines, arabs are semitic, while Persians are Indo-European. These are well accepted facts... Egyptians rn't arabs either, they're Egyptians! Lebanese rn't arabs, they're Phoenicians... real arabs r confined to saudi arabia, state of which came into existence in 1930's.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat and actually there are many Arab Scientists like Noor adin al-Betrugi (Astronomer),Ibn al-Nafis(Physician),Ibn Al-Thahabi (Physcian),Al-Zarqali (mathematician),Muhammad alMuqadassi (geographer),Jabir ibn Aflah (mathematician and astronomer),Alhazen (mathematician, physician,philiosphy and astronomer.Yeah Persians contributed alot over 70-75% of discoveries of golden age cuz there were arabs..and in school i memorized lots and lots of scientists like these
MrJoseph1966 3 months ago
@MrJoseph1966 "Persians contributed... cuz there were arabs"??! Not following... clarify. I'm sure there've been some arab scientists with not many significant achievements as the well known Persian counterparts, hence their obscurity amongst non arab nations and cultures... it is undeniable that over 70% of the so-called "islamic science" was made possible by Persian scientists, which only to be expected given the rich background history and cultural foundations.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
p3. he decidedly chooses not to give enough credit where it's due, for example where he brings up the Kharazmi's name and his contributions, he doesn't make any references to Kharazmi's origins and nationality and the fact that he was a Persian polymath. I can only attribute this to the fact that over 70% of the muslim scientists at the time who truly contributed sth to the body of knowledge were Persians and Khalili doesn't obviously want to acknowledge that for unknown reasons. (cont. p4)
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
p2. quantum mechanics explains the origin of universe and big bang quite possibly in the best rational way which doesn't require no magic, it's just a product of subatomic quantum scale virtual particle burst of particles inflated and expanded, and considering the recent developments on the multiverse hypothesis it will get much more interesting and further substantiative. But what repels me the most in the documentary is how Khalili chooses to not acknowledge certain aspects. (cont. p3)
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
I find the dishonest biased report of Al Khalili rather disappointing. I'm a big fan of his documentaries, but this one's just ridiculous, here's why: Science and Faith are not compatible in no way, science is based on empiricism and objectivity while faith is based on belief and subjectivity, I'll try to show this in a reductio ad absurdum; the concept of and interfering God in today's scientific literature is considered obsolete, and rightly so, as I'm sure Khalili knows too (cont. p2)
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat The function of faith in science is to encourage wo/man to believe that there must be more to reality than Science can currently decipher. It is this that can lead people to question after than which was previously beyond the realm of scientific interest, thus extending its boundaries past its previous auspices. The scientific revolution wasn't anti-religion. They were taking the natural road from faith to certainty. Both are part of a symbiotic whole.
according2ed 3 months ago
@according2ed Non-overlapping magisteria is a cheap trick, a dishonest attempt and a fallacious premis with no standing valid argument. It's very simple, faith hold a concept of heaven and hell, or even a loving god in the skies, where as according to science no such thing as "sky" exists technically. There's outer space, but no sky.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
why don't some dump ass people stop hating and appreciated a good documentary
frankng792000 3 months ago
U just twist the meanings, stop hating, ur clearly a brainwashed little shit
manutd1878fc 4 months ago
Sorportal, ur in denial
manutd1878fc 4 months ago
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Koran contains NO scientific truth. But greedy scientists, in exchange of gold and silver from Saudi USA-petro-$, are discovering science everyday in that wretched book Koran that teaches sex, violence, criminalism and mass massacre.
Big Bang model starts from infinitely hot and infinitely dense matter. Koranic Allah claims he created this earth & seven heavens OUT OF NOTHING
This concept violates the established law of physics, mass cannot be created out of nothingness.
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sorpotal 4 months ago
A very interesting documentary.
AllTheseWorldsAreUrs 4 months ago
man this is one good documentary.
fuentes83 4 months ago
@ritchloui .Brothers i asked you books which has scientific proofs not the non-sense theories and philosophy . Even i can write one, as the years roll by it may also become popular like the Darwin's theory. The Darwin's theory was just a letter written by Darwin to his friend explaining what he thought, and it was not a scientific proof.We do read books of Shakespeare and Dawkins, that's not enough, you need to research what could have created us.Only answers i would give is ALLAH.
wikiyas 5 months ago
Rawdhat al-Wa`aizin, no. 17
The Prophet (SAWA) said, ‘The knowledgeable man is superior to the [mere] worshipper by seventy degrees, the distance between two degrees spanning the gallop of a horse for seventy years; and this is because Satan plants an innovation amongst people which the knowledgeable man notices and prohibits, whilst the worshipper attends to his worship neither taking any notice of it nor recognising it.
becharev 5 months ago
It is absolutely laughable that we are expected to believe that illiterate desert slavers made any contribution to science and mathematics. They didn't. Not one innovation originated from Arabia. These bandits conquered advanced civilisations and, along with their wealth, appropriated all their achievements as their own. Typical of thieves really; steal something then deny the theft.
ritchloui 5 months ago
@ritchloui
Nobody says that illiterate desert slavers made any contribution to science and mathematics. Learn to read. We are saying that Muslims, including Arabs such as Alkindi, advanced the human civilization in philosophy, natural sciences, arts etc...
By the way, in the 7th century there was no civilization in Egypt (It was under dirty Byzantine occupation) or in North Africa. Even the Persian empire was very weak and at its lowest point ever.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@ritchloui If so , why don't you show me a better book that resembles knowledge , so that i can follow that...
wikiyas 5 months ago
@wikiyas What are you interested in? There are so many wonderful books about all sorts of things. You could do worse than get the Collected Works of Shakespeare. Richard Dawkins of course has written a number of brilliant books on evolution. You Tube is heaving with fabulous lectures on just about every subject you can imagine. I've put together some Playlists of various subjects; History, Philosophy, Economics, all sorts. Try user/ritchloui#grid/user/5F6A9939ED3D827F :)
ritchloui 5 months ago
Medieval Islam inherited regions with a great pre-islamic civilization, such as Persia and North Africa, it is therefore not surprising that none of the scientists ever came from the heartland of Islam itself - Arabia.
The scientists put the Quran aside and worked with the natural world around them. Their success had nothing to do with their religion, which a lot of them didn't really believe in anyway.
No science ever came out of the Quran. Unless you think a flying donkey is science.
leptismagna10 5 months ago in playlist Science and Islam
@leptismagna10
All civilizations build upon earlier civilizations. No civilization is ever born in a vacuum. There were several scientists from Arabia by the way, most notably the great philosopher Alkindi.
All medieval scientists and philosophers were religious Muslims and put forward great philosophical defenses of the existence of God and Islam. Stop listening to atheist propaganda.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@leptismagna10
The Buraq is not mentioned in the Quran by the way. It is a medieval invention. Yet I do not understand why you keep mentioning it as if God could not create a buraq to fly a person from one place to another? It shows your ignorance and superficiality.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@Ahmad1Salam maybe you should read surat al isra again. the flying donkey is a big part of islamic belief.
and no, your god cannot create a buraq because he isn't real.
ignorance and superficiality? i'm not the one who believes in magic fairy tales and jinns.
leptismagna10 5 months ago
@leptismagna10
I read the Israa chapter. There is no "flying horse" or "donkey" as you said in verse 1. God transferred the Prophet by himself.
God can create anything that is logically possible. So He could if He wanted to create a flying horse or any kind of creature.
I do not believe in fairy tales. It is who believe in fairy tales like life coming from inanimate matter and something like the universe coming from nothing.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@Ahmad1Salam Only religious people assert that the universe came from Nothing. It's pure religious propaganda about what Science is and says. No credible scientist, nor anyone who knows anything about cosmology can claim that the universe came from Nothing. And to prove it, tell me where exactly you got the information that the Science says the Universe came from Nothing.... I bet it's not a credible scientist.
AllTheseWorldsAreUrs 5 months ago
@AllTheseWorldsAreUrs
I did not say that science says that the universe came from nothing so please do not make this seem like science and religion make mutually exclusive claims. I said that atheists believe that the universe came from nothing. You seem not to believe in that which is very good and I am happy that you rebuke this.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@AllTheseWorldsAreUrs
Religionists do not say that the universe came from nothing. They say that it came from God. You say that the universe came from something. What is that something? And where did it come from? You cannot go back infinitely and so we must stop at a necessarily existing being.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@Ahmad1Salam You believe in the "Fairy Tale" that "Scientist say that the Universe Came From Nothing". @leptismagna10
AllTheseWorldsAreUrs 5 months ago
@MMAC0RE Well said. Religion and nature of mankind should never be confused. It is religion that directs man and his nature to its most perfect and pious form. All religions have people in them which are evil but the good people outweigh the bad heavily. I also respect Christianity and hold it in very high regard as I believe Jesus Christ was a prophet of God. It's just sad to see so many people destroying the name of Islam it really breaks my heart. I'm Muslim and i've never harmed anyone. :)
SonnyA89 5 months ago
@screwopenborders He doesn't have to you can look it up for yourself what gives you the right to demand something?If you want to learn something about islam learn Arabic and study the Quran and don't read it in translated form cause that's not 100% translated good.
wajaw22 6 months ago
Quran has been the best source for centuries. Most scientist won't ignore this..
It is their religion which makes them ignore this beautiful book..
LET'S LEARN QURAN AND LET'S GET KNOWLEDGE..
wikiyas 6 months ago
@wikiyas name a couple versus in the Koran that would give me knowledge in science.
screwopenborders 6 months ago
@wikiyas I hope you are being satirical; there is nothing resembling 'knowledge' in the Koran. That is a complete misconception. The Koran is a series of mystical pronouncements, threats and promises by a bronze age bandit slaver. Despite the HUGE head start from its conquests, fundamental Islam retards societies to the whims of the ignorant nomadic slavers of Arabia from which the Islamic ideology originated. Believing the Koran is like picking at a scab to heal the wound.
ritchloui 5 months ago
@ritchloui
The Quran is all about knowledge of how to attain guidance in this life to survive in the next. It prohibits slavery and the Prophet Muhammad did not live in the Bronze Age. Muslim societies were very advanced for almost 1000 years, and not all of them are "retards" today by the way. The reason for the regression is mainly political and because of the colonialism too.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@Ahmad1Salam There is little to learn from an ideology that systematically hides its crimes and idealizes itself. Islam is cannot survive the information age. The 'advanced societies' that you call 'Muslim' were already advanced. However, the societies that were destroyed by Islam such as those in Africa were reduced to a degree of destitution and criminality they have never recovered. Furthermore FGM has followed Islam around the world like a bad smell.
ritchloui 5 months ago
@ritchloui
You are a wishful thinker. Islam is ideal because it is the religion of God. Crimes? What crimes? The Quran forbids all forms of crime. The advanced societies were not advanced. They were retarded under Byzantine occupation. In Africa many Muslim dynasties flourished by the way. And today all African countries are full of destitution and criminality whether they are Pagan, Muslim or Christian. FGM is prohibited in the Quran.
Ahmad1Salam 5 months ago
@Ahmad1Salam The Byzantine Empire was only one of the advanced civilisations with the wealth of knowledge appropriated by Islam, and it certainly did not 'occupy' Persia or India or China. Islam will not survive the information age if it relies so heavily on misinformation to keep its followers in line. FGM is practiced far and wide in the world, as an Islamic practice and regarded as such by those who practice it. It is not forbidden in the Koran - you should read it some time.
ritchloui 5 months ago
This is a brilliant documentary
lotr450 6 months ago
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7 dislikes !!! well congratulations you proved to the world that you're bunch of IDIOTS ! Go to hell haters..
magdaalgadi 6 months ago in playlist Science and Islam
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magdaalgadi 6 months ago in playlist Science and Islam
woow am proud to be muslim
badboy7463 7 months ago
@MMAC0RE Arabic is not my native language either, but I got interested after watching this video (Science and Islam). I found this simple Arabic for beginners course on youtube, which maybe you (or someone else) will find interesting: v=abDMtGPkJIo "Learn Arabic - Lesson 1 (Part 1) - The Arabic Alphabet" (user arabicdashstudio). There are also grammar lessons.
0debug 7 months ago
One example of "authority" which stands in the way of a new scientific Islamic golden age is Harun Yahya. (People who reads or listens to his material risk getting behind in areas such as biology/evolution, i.e. it has a detrimental effect on scientific fields such as Genetics.) Another example is if religious leaders say that science is bad because it is "western". More people in the Islamic world need to stand up and dare to critizise such authority, if things are to move forward.
0debug 7 months ago
7 people are idiots and have a fucked up religion
naju332 7 months ago
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Al-Khalili has stated that, "as the son of a Protestant Christian mother and a Shia Muslim father, I have nevertheless ended up without a religious bone in my body"
ashcmitch88 7 months ago
Scientific progress follows money, yes, but equally important (as hinted in this program) is to be able to question authority. The islamic scientists questioned the greeks; Galileo and Darwin went against [religious] dogma in their time.
This program shows scientists in today's Iran, but the other side of the coin is that religious leaders in Iran tell people that earthquakes are caused by women dresing "improperly". It's sad when religion (and their leaders) interfere with science and reason.
0debug 7 months ago
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A vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking its own written authority!
becharev 7 months ago
I was orginally surprised that the BBC was doing a documentary like this. Being a Muslim I couldn't help how understated the contributions were from Islam, and it would be suggested that the people of Islam were interested in knowledge for astrology, and alchemy. Besides that the idea that Islam had a competition for money going on is simple not the truth. Maybe I am biased, but this was disgusting to me with many things read into the history of Islam and science, and many minimized points.
Ohrela 8 months ago
This documentary is extremely dishonest, even thought it is only on one point.
It says that Islam contributed to science, and that is incorrect. No religion or their reasoning have ever contributed to science. The people behind the science might have been religious (such as Newton) but it has nothing to do with the methods used (completely secular) nor with the contributions made.
They are being directly dishonest and confusing to people who are ignorant of religion.
Dimajo 8 months ago
@Dimajo What he means is that due to certain texts and versus in the Qur-an such as "Allah didn't send an illness without sending a cure" to my mind that means there is a cure there I have to do the science to find it.
I am not a Muslim and I deeply understand the importance of that verse and its affect on people and the way it would have moved them. There is also a verse there that makes correct statements of the shape of the earth and the movement of it in the Qur-an.
nics10able 8 months ago
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Pakis and all Muslims beg to live in the Western nations yet when given a chance, they spit back to condemn and demand to change the Western culture to theirs.All Muslim nations are third world nations with Islamic people who just hate and distrust infidels because the Koran orders them to do so. Muhammad's Koran mission is to make ill the minds of fast producing maggots Muslims who have no sense between reality and fantasy.Islam is a dumb fuck tale for a psycho by a crackpot Muhammad.
makpuki99 8 months ago
Lol Just ignore the haters. Whatever they say, the fact that the Quran is in harmony with science is, well, a fact!
bobbyjans 8 months ago
@bobbyjans Bravo you just demonstrated what religion is all about. Ignore the evidence and observations so that belief can be preserved ;) (ignore the "haters")
No religion, is in harmony with science, they are the direct enemy of science, and they all leed to an intellectual dead end when questions of life are posed, with an "answer" that means nothing.
to understand the dishonesty of this documentary please see my previous comment.
The praise goes solely to science, and not religion.
Dimajo 8 months ago
Videos like this are fantastic...Although I bet the 5 dislikes are REPUBLICANS from America...Not only do they DESPISE Science & Facts but they of course hate the idea that Muslims contributed anything to the global society. And of course the idea they saved most or the info we in the West, the Christians, burnt & forbid anyone to study for a 1000yrs. On the flip side hopefully Muslims will be able to come back into the fold & help humanity like they once did. Thank-you BBC!
Viracocha711 9 months ago
@MMAC0RE Well said here. I agree with you. Plus, I don't agree with fanatics, extremists or militants of carrying any ideology, whether it be religious or non-religious.
oowen2784 9 months ago
9:36 you say founder of Islam is muhammad? He is the last prophet meaning there's a 1st one! Islam is Allah's religion! Allah is the founder who created it! Got it?!
redfoxarts 10 months ago
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He's just expressing a neutral position
smoothbanana 10 months ago in playlist Islam 101
why would they talk about Islam and Science!? ???
redfoxarts 10 months ago
@redfoxarts depends on definition of science in your book .
HKSHALMANI22 9 months ago
Hindi words didnt come from Hindi, its actually came from word 'Hindasah', meaning 'the art of geometry'. Reference "Islam and Evolution of Science" by Dr. Muhammad Saud, page#25, line#8. Thanx!
materialhirdles 11 months ago
I think it should be labled Arabic and science rather than islam and science
superthug2099 11 months ago
How is it possible to give Islam credit for something the Greeks and Babylonians had invented long before the medical journal the Quran was written?
gulis4u 11 months ago
Islam and science!!??? HoHoHooo
gulis4u 11 months ago
@MMAC0RE salam walaikum
a717575 11 months ago
A neat, tendentious and politically correct BBC history production. Their presenters seem to "forget the base degrees by which they did ascend" to an upper middle class salary and life style and, without humility, arrogate to themselves the authority of past religious and scientific scholars to their imagined applause of the TV License payer.
elrjames777 1 year ago
I am a Muslim and(or should i say but?) a Filipino. I really wish i can already speak Arabic fluently T_T I am really working hard now to achieve that wish/goal. Inshaallah I will one day talk like i have never spoke/known any other language except for Arabic.
kikiam02 1 year ago
AllhamdulAllh , I'm a Muslim and i'm speak Arabic ,I feel am so lucky for this :)
girl00ISLAM 1 year ago
THE MIRACLES OF PAIN RECEPTORS IN THE QURAN SURAH NISA VERSE 56
Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Ayat (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment. Truly, Allah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.
SAJEDMUNIR 1 year ago
@SAJEDMUNIR That's no Miracle, Many Muslims claim all the Faulty Verses that Modern Science disproves, Scary Verses that threaten Death, Pain, Suffering as Miracles to Cleverly hide the Facts and distract people from the Original Significance of those verses - They are all FAKE.
forgottenmemories63 1 year ago
@forgottenmemories63 You both are being silly.
sing2shangrila 1 year ago
wow so educational! : D
bukkietime101 1 year ago
I cant understand why, but i just love how beautifull the man writes in arababic on 15:55. I get totally mezmerized. I can watch that for hours i bett
benbijvlagengeniaal 1 year ago
the only thing that stops me to become a follower of islam was the rejection of the divinity of jesus christ.
jubelletoledo 1 year ago
@jubelletoledo I would like to tell you that in Bible there is not a single verse where Jesus (peace be upon him) says that "I am God or worship me ". In fact in Gospel of John Ch. 14 verse 28, it says "My father is greater than I".Gospel of Luke, Ch. 11 verse 20 " I cast out devil, with the finger of Lord" Gospel of John ch. 5 verse 30 "I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
STRsAadi 1 year ago
@STRsAadi dearest brother, thanks for the comment and merry christmas too :-)
as u know our faith is rooted from abraham (judaism) for jesus to verbally claim he is God is blasphemy and punishable by death. the jews dont even utter the name of God.or write it for fear of blasphemy.so jesus did it in a very wise way "i am the way, the truth and the life" and "for God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son and whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." :-)
jubelletoledo 1 year ago
@jubelletoledo Well if u christians say that Jesus(PBUH) is the son of man or the root sprung from Adam, then I strongly agree with that. but the moment u say begotten son of God as he was the only prophet to be born by a virgin woman, Mary(PBU Her), but if this was the reason why u people call him through that, then Adam(PBUH) is a greater prophet than Jesus, bcz then he had no mother nor any father. Thats why terms describing Jesus(PBUH) prophecy should be carefully used. Ihope ths clearify
anserhasan 8 months ago
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STRsAadi 1 year ago
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But we highly respect and love Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) and accept him as a Messiah sent to Children of Israel with the Gospel and Law. A Muslim can't really be a Muslim if they do not love him. Muslims believe his second coming which will be the major sign of Judgment Day. He will kill the Anti-Christ (Dajjal) in his second coming. Jesus never actually claimed divinity so its revealed in Quran by God.
sairaxmaira 1 year ago
@sairaxmaira la ilaha ilallah, and i believe in that.. but jesus did something in my life many times, i do believe in miracles :-) our faith (abrahamic faith) is based on Judaism..Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecy written in the torah. the jews are still waiting for their messiah until now but the christians and musims wait for the 2nd coming. the difference was that we have a different understanding and belief of the messiah.
jubelletoledo 1 year ago
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Miracles comes from God not his creation dear. Well, you believe there is no God but God. Do you believe in the last Prophet send to mankind, Mohammad (SAAW)? I just read his biography by Martin Lings in which many Christian and Jews monks knew that a Prophet was soon to come to Arabs. In Bible, Jesus prophesied his coming. I suggest you should read Mohammad: His life based on earliest sources by Lings, he was a convert to Islam or The Life and Work of Muhammad by Emerick.
sairaxmaira 1 year ago
@sairaxmaira of course i did study about Mohammad and his prophet hood. I know that its a christian priest the cousin of khadija that convince her, that her husband is a prophet.
I know the history of Islam, the dark side of catholicism, and about the culture of the jews and judaism.
I know somewhere in the future we will understand and things will be revealed that this 3 religion doesnt really contradict. Deus Voolt, Inshaallah
jubelletoledo 1 year ago
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Bro/Sis our belief is not actually based on Judaism, there are similarities indeed. We follow the religion of Abraham (PBUH) and he came before Moses and Jesus. "Verily my Lord hath guided me to a way that is straight, a religion of right, the path trodden by Abraham the true in faith and he was not one of idolaters. 6:161 So are you a Muslim or still studying Islam? I myself reverted to Islam few months back. Alhumdulillah! Mankind should follow, Quran the last revelation.
sairaxmaira 1 year ago
@jubelletoledo i thank u for sincerly replying to my comment brother, but when Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) lived, this disciples wrote the words down that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) said and that what through God was completing his message to any people who do not believe in God. The Quran was complete during Prophet Muhammad's(PBUH) lifetime. And Islam was spread through the knowledge the muslims presented through the Quran. Tell u what u brother u can watch the movie the "message". Its quite touching.
anserhasan 8 months ago
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Jesus said, 'I am a servant of ALLAH. HE has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet; 'And HE has made me blessed where I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live; 'And HE has made me dutiful towards my mother, has not made me arrogant and graceless; peace be on the day I was born, and peace will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.' That was Jesus, son of Mary.19:30-35
sairaxmaira 1 year ago
@sairaxmaira dear brother or sister thanks for the comments. i do appreciate it a lot... as i have realized, the more people know about any things the more his faith is being put to a question... some of the teachings of islam i do truly admire, i believe islam is about peace and about submission. (those terrorist and fanatics have degraded the Islamic faith by crying and killing in the name of God, i dont believe that this people are real muslims)
jubelletoledo 1 year ago
@jubelletoledo No brother tell me as Abraham is one of the most important prophets in all three religions and why dont we worship him that is because he told us to worship the one lord. God talked to Prophet Moses(PBUH) most of the time and gave the instruction that the children of Israel should worship him not Moses(PBUH) or any other prophet. Islam believes in all prophets while no other religion does so. Doesnt it feel good, that you can believe in Jesus as well as other prophets in Islam.
anserhasan 8 months ago
@anserhasan i actually dont understand where ur comments came from...the rest of the prophets u mentions were prophets and shouldnt be worshiped..i agree with that....but JESUS aka ISA is the "son of man" he is "God that became a man not a man who became a God" and that is the main faith of christianity.
jubelletoledo 8 months ago
@anserhasan a point of view and its a fact. the qur-an was written decades after Mohamad died, the verses were just memorized..the first caliph wanted it to be preserved in written form so those who had memorized the verses from mohamad was written down.there should be 4 people who knew that verse..as u know mohamad dont know how to read and write.
same thing with the new testament. it was compiled 300 years after jesus died...so all of this were mad by man
jubelletoledo 8 months ago
What an scientific achievement - a stagnate language. Brilliant.
unitasetmagus 1 year ago
MashaAllah keep the truth and nostslgia pumpin!!!! SubhanaAllah!!!
p1mp1nplayer 1 year ago
Kharazmi iz not arab! he is persian!
arashsabertehrani 1 year ago
Thank YOU Fazzamin and Nahda Media for such amazing uploads =)
Khalid88Nasser 1 year ago
EGGSELLENTE Masha Allah..spread it!! Knowledge oohh how I cherish Islam!
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polysemousncrk 1 year ago
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mohammed is burning in hell for starting the whole muslim thing.
hannityforpres 1 year ago
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@hannityforpres u will see who will burn in hell when time comes :D... believe me it wont be him!!!!!!!
Jangara1 1 year ago
I found this video very illuminating about understanding the Islamic leadership in progression of knowledge. Many thanks for uploading it.
veiledcritic 1 year ago 2
@Sardrith So share dear your knowledge =) Tell me why are you so negative towards Islam?
I am a woman btw, and i dont think even Christianity allows to talk to women so rudely
GSeleena 1 year ago
@GSeleena I care not if you are a woman or not you fucking slut and I have no interest other than to insult you who wants to praise your cocksucking faggot religion
Sardrith 1 year ago
@Sardrith thats really funny. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM, you just pissed of cuz its the real religion and Qur'an wasnt re-written unlike bible. Too bad. Also you know nothing about me to judge me and calling me names. I really feel sorry for you dear Sardith.
GSeleena 1 year ago
@GSeleena you think women are held in higher regard in your religion? look at those who get stoned to death for being unfaithful, you think that's nice huh? ugly fucking cunt, suck pigcocks
Sardrith 1 year ago
@Sardrith I think you are really unhappy with your life thats why you are here, keep watching videos about Islam, trying so hard to fand some negative aspects. You found nothing, you got pissed of. Islam teachs that we have to forgive when we angry, i guess you should do the same :)
GSeleena 1 year ago
@GSeleena I think you're full of shit you cumdrinking moslem slut
Sardrith 1 year ago
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GSeleena 1 year ago
@GSeleena islam doesnt teach us to forgive when someone abuse us or talk the way u did about our prophet ... we have selfdefence... u have to learn to not say sucha ting u did if u are better. ACTION=REACTION........ SHAME ON U ....
Jangara1 1 year ago
@Jangara1 , islam has teahcer forgive in quran, that why most dont believe cannot knowledge islam,
lahij 1 year ago
@Sardrith not every muslim is a muslim, same as not every christian is a real christian. They make rules for themselves. ask a real muslim how does she feel, i bet she is happy.
GSeleena 1 year ago 30
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@GSeleena the fact that you identify yourself as a moslem first and human second tells me all I need to know about you, same as people who see themselves as christian, buddhists, hindu or whatever, fucking retarded shitheads that eat shit for food and loves to drink sperm
Sardrith 1 year ago