Todd Bentley claimed ordination false

[kingdomanointed]

why does Todd think he is so much more anointed than any other believer? There is one anointing: the Holy Spirit who pours out Himself on every believer to do different things. I hate that pride that causes him to think he is soooo anointed and uber special b/c he has the "so called" healing anointing. First of all, it's the Lord who is the healer, not Todd. That pride just makes me so mad.

[Boosteroid]

Thank you again Vinnie, another excellent video. :-)

[TR5T]

PRIDE PRIDE PRIDE WILL END IN HELL.

[jhouse0970]

none of them want to lose their cash cow! and I mean COW... give it up guys, he already came into this with a very dirty past. I am not judging him because only God can do that however he is just not a good person and if he chooses to live his life one way and preach another then that's the final nail in the coffin. Find another line of work and stop swindling people!

[maxtube22]

Bentley is nothing more then a shameless, criminal, nihilistic con man. Furthermore the vanilla smelling jesus he says came down from heaven and actually sat on his bed does not exist, it is just a con "niche" he created just like his other 'niche', anything to do with fire. He just feeds into the gnostic lusts of those within the pentecostal heresy. Pentecostalism is THE new Roman Catholicism, a new religion unto itself led by shameless con men like Bentley who will NEVER stop their cons

[maxtube22]

These con men like Bentley and their false jesus' and false gospels are not f othe True Jesus or His ONLY gospel, as is revealed in the Bible alone, His ONLY and FINISHED revelation.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

2 Tim 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

[TheVoiceof1crying]

The way to kill the carnal nature?

THE CROSS.

[anthfantastic]

tweedle 'dum' and tweedle 'dee' ! Lift the veil so I can see the devil right n front of me.

[sandtoscana]

Sorry am i missing something? Is he saying that burnout led him to his 'mistake' of carrying on an adulterous relationship under the very nose of his wife? Did he not just sin and further rebelled by marrying the adultress instead of repenting and going back to his wife and children?

[vinnieActs2030]

Yep! It wasn't Todd's fault, it was God's fault according to them, God crushed Todd under the anointing and caused him to fall, commit adultery and go on wild drinking bouts. What a way to believe.

[Rockfaerii]

WOW! What a way to believe. It is the devil who does such things. God is holy and he does not err. It is our human condition that many times gives in to temptation. Also, the devil is able to disguise himself in light to appear as if from God, so we must be VERY careful and pray A LOT. God gives truth.

[564bay]

The bible teaches He who is faithful in lit tle is faithful in much .Todd lied about The Lord telling him one thousand people were going to give a thousand dollars.Not to mention Emma the female angel that Todd later said was not female .Then there was nite line and the promise of proof of 33 people raised from the dead.Someone correct me if im wrong but didnt He claim angels took him to heavin and reached in and took out his desire for booze and drugs.,and they had healed his marrage

[servantEG]

Nobody is perfect but God.

And - thx Jesus - nobody has to be perfect to be loved and forgiven.

I love my brother Todd, who's a real man of God.

[vinnieActs2030]

Don't you love me?

I pray that my Father pours out blessing upon you always! Peace & Love vinnie ..... :)

[BroJustin]

Todd Bentley is definitely not the Lord's and is moving in the spirit of antichrist. I sometimes wonder how far into the plainly demonic these false prophets have to get into before they are detected by those who follow such wicked men.

[burrnmusic]

every one who desires to live Godly will be persecuted....But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived

is this a connection?

evil men and impostors will be the ones persecuting.. deceiving and being deceived

who has Todd ever persecuted? who has Rich Joyner ever persecuted?

these people don't publicly denounce anyone. So if they are deceiving, how come they aren't persecuting?

we know there is a lot of persecution against them tho....

[vinnieActs2030]

These men live a lie, there is no godliness in a lie! "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived." You prove my point exactly! Thank You!

I suppose you believe that God persecuted Todd by shutting down the deception at Lakeland, because if that was of God, nobody, and I do mean nobody could have stopped it, Only our beloved Lord Jesus Christ has all authority, He shut it down, by exposing the deception!

[burrnmusic]

how did i prove your point? my point was that the ppl who are deceived are the persecutors. who did Bentley persecute?

No body can stop God? what are you talking about? if no one can stop God then your implying there is no free choice.

God desires that all be saved. is everyone getting saved? doesnt look like it. why? because we have a part in this. we are his body. we can disobey Him. believe it or not.

[vinnieActs2030]

Yes we can disobey Him, but I assure you Todd is not the only act in town, you really give this guy a lot of power, If God was at Lakland working through Todd and Todd disobeyed Him and crushed what God wanted to do He could have raised up another, nothing would stop Him, you give more power to Todd than you do God! My God is much more powerful than that, He blew on your man made circus and it came crashing to the ground! He shined His marvelous into darkness and it was exposed for what it was!

[vinnieActs2030]

Because the real Jesus, not the impostor that was offered at Lakland is victorious! The real Jesus doesn't half heal people, He doesn't give sight in only one eye and when the real Jesus resurrects people from the dead there is no question about it!

All Lakeland was, was smoke, mirrors and a whole lot of false claims! Most of all there is not a power created that can shut down the King that I serve! The true and living and holy King of Kings!

[burrnmusic]

doesnt half heal ppl? how do you explain mark 8:23-25? why did he get partially healed.. then fully healed?

i believe it is because healing can be instantaneous... which happened in other situations. or in stages, as this situation demonstrated. Why else didnt He get healed the first time? I think God was trying to demonstrate something to us.

you got a better explanation why the man didnt get healed right away?

[vinnieActs2030]

And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.

After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly. Mark 8:23-25 Only minutes passed, not hours, days, or weeks, you fill in an answer you don't even understand with your speculation, it's called trying to cover your tracks, trying to cover up your false claims! The key words in your response are "I think"

[vinnieActs2030]

Mind you after he fully healed this man he said, "And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town. Mar 8:26 Not go write books, sell cd's and dvd's to make a profit on the things of God! Jesus didn't tell him to assemble a tent full of people together and tell them how great you are! I don't know why Jesus told him that? but maybe like you said God was trying to demonstrate something to us.

[burrnmusic]

why do you think Jesus told him not to tell anyone?

[vinnieActs2030]

I'll answer this question for you when you bring around the 32 resurrections that were claimed by Bentley and your false movement, no excuses, no tall stories, no twisting of scripture, no putting it back on someone else show me the resurrected people! Look, you people make wild claims and far out stories and when your called on it and it's time to come up with the goods you cry persecution! I don't want to hear anything but 32 people telling me God raised them from the dead!

[burrnmusic]

maybe if you start from a place of believing... God will lead you to people who have gotten healed and you will hear it first hand. i dont demand proof like some do because when you've experienced the miraculous power of God first hand, its alot easier to believe it when others give a testimony. I have seen and experienced miracles. as well as met people who miracles happened to them personally and they told me personally.

have you had experiences like this?

[vinnieActs2030]

I believe in healing, I believe that God preforms miracles, you see Burn I believe God, it's your movement I don't believe, When God does something, He does it! Unlike your false movement, I don't need God to prove anything to me, but when men make claims of resurrections I ask for proof, and I haven't seen any, not one, only embellished stories! Show me the resurrections!

[burrnmusic]

i wouldnt be surprised if the reason you see no proof is because your heart is so filled with unbelief. you assume it isnt true until it is proved to you. thats called being filled with unbelief.

why do you think in Mark chapter 5 he made all the ppl who were ridiculing leave before he rose her from the dead? because people who dont believe dont get to be a part of and witness the dead being raised.

[vinnieActs2030]

Burn, please don't flatter yourself and think that just because you or Bentley or your movement has made a claim it should be called gospel! Please keep in mind the words of your movement have fallen to the ground countless times, your movement has no integrity whatsoever, I believe God without reservation, it's your false movement I don't believe!

[vinnieActs2030]

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Rev 2:2

Jesus said this, would say He was filled with unbelief?

[burrnmusic]

Todd isnt claiming to be an apostle, hes an evangelist.

[vinnieActs2030]

Todd is not an evangelist by his own admission. Evangelism is telling people about Jesus, Todd claims to be a faith healer to the church and tells everybody about the angel! He claims everybody already knows about Jesus, it's the supernatural and the angel we need to hear about!

[burrnmusic]

Todd may have said that.. but "faith healer" is not a biblical office. Hes an evangelist. whether he thinks he is or not is irrelevant. Watch my video where he said "all that other stuff." and "the angel" was a part of "all that other stuff". and he goes on to say "all that other stuff" is "the supernatural".

He means the Church knows about Jesus... But they dont know much about the supernatural. and thats true. We can all quote the Word, but we cant all do the stuff.

[vinnieActs2030]

I beg to differ with you once again my burn man!, the Church is the body of Christ, that in itself is supernatural, and no not everybody can quote the scriptures,and that's the problem! Many are obsessed with the supernatural and lack the wisdom of the word. That's why they find themselves ship wrecked half the time. Rather than seek God and ask for wisdom for His church as Solomon did, they ask for themselves out of selfish reasons, power, attention, prestige, and money!

[burrnmusic]

"that in itself is supernatural" ... can you explain what you mean by this?

You say many have abandoned wisdom and character in pursuit of the gifts... this is true. this does happen.

Also, people pursue wisdom and character and abandon the gifts.

the full Christian is pursues of both. you cant just obey the commands of God you like. you have to obey everything..

Seek spiritual gifts... that sounds like a command.

[vinnieActs2030]

Remember something Burn, John the Baptist did no miracle, (John 10:41) but yet Jesus said of him;

Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Mat 11:11

God will lift up whom He will and and humble whom He will, He is sovereign!

Peace & Love

vinnieo ..... :)

[burrnmusic]

Yes but remember. Jesus then said right after that even the least in the Kingdom are greater then John.

Jesus said he who comes after me will do miracles... John didnt come after Jesus. He came before...

[MrLibnygp]

@vinnieActs2030

All of us sin but there is a difference between a natural man as sinner and a spiritual man as sinner. The natural has not been born again, he is not a temple of the Holy Spirit. He may have religion in the "head" but Jesus is not in his life as Lord and Savior. The spiritual may sin but his/her attitude is different: sadness, pain, sorrow in his/her heart. The Holy Spirit is grieved. God bless.

[vinnieActs2030]

Why is it that everybody that claims Todd was sent from God seems to have to re-interpret everything he says? Todd claims too, and has said plainly "He has a healing ministry", by you calling that umbilical doesn't surprise me! I've been telling you Todd is umbilical for days now! .............. :)

[burrnmusic]

re-interpret? Todd isnt correct about everything. he's a human. i dont think anyone is arguing otherwise. If he says he's not an evangelist.. well id have to disagree with him on that.

[burrnmusic]

what claim? what words have fallen to the ground?

[vinnieActs2030]

Claims of healings, that didn't happen, claims of resurrections that never took place, so called prophets speaking great swelling words over a man that kicked his kids and wife to the curb while he had an affair with his staff member while he was claiming to be hearing from God, supposedly raising the dead by night, having an affair by day! Wagner aligning him with the will of God, then Todd did everything opposite that they proclaimed in there false commissioning. The list goes on!

[burrnmusic]

just because Todd fell doesnt prove or disprove the resurrections. because you have not personally met or seen the youtube video of a person raised from the dead you count it as false. i cant prove it happened. but you cant prove it didnt happen.

he did opposite of the things they commissioned him to do. one can do the opposite of their commissioning. they have free will. they can sin. but thats not words falling flat. its disobedience.

[vinnieActs2030]

Why is it burn that before Todd fell it was proof that God was working in the so called revival, but when he fell it doesn't prove God wasn't working?

They spoke as prophets over him, look at the video's their words fell flat to the ground!

I don't have to prove it didn't happen, it speaks for itself, where are the resurrected? There's the proof! You prove it did happen! There isn't a video out there that can prove 32 resurrections, only embellished stories! Lies! Lies! Lies!

[burrnmusic]

people were getting saved, falling in love with Jesus, worshipping Him, and speaking about him. even if there were no resurrections it would still be God at work down there in my opinion.

some people called in from all over the world and reported some resurrections. 32 people. so perhaps those 32 ppl dont know that on youtube there is this huge demand for proof. or maybe they do know but God is telling them not to go forward. there were times when Jesus healed someone and said "tell no one"

[vinnieActs2030]

This statement doesn't need a response, it speaks for itself. You stick with your opinions, I'll stick with the word of God, let me know how it works out for you. Peace & Love

[burrnmusic]

look at the stuff over Saul. the Spirit was on him so heavily he prophesied. I guess the Lords words fell flat when He made him king over Israel because look at how Saul ended up. So i guess the Lords words fell flat huh?

Todd fell. In the midst of his anointing. but at least he didnt have his new wife's old husband killed like David did. Or try to spear his appoints like Saul did.

[vinnieActs2030]

Are you saying Bentley is going to end up like Saul? Could be!

[burrnmusic]

where are the resurrected? wheres proof it happened? lol If it did happen i dont think satan, being the ruler of this world, is going to give them platforms to speak their testimonies. i know you think its all plain and simple if something like this happened the whole world would be just be marveled. and everyone in the world would get saved. yea right. satan would do all that he can to keep everything hidden. I mean look at how infrequently Jesus is in ANY of the history books.

[vinnieActs2030]

Your thinking again burn and all this is a matter of opinion and speculation, no root in the word whatsoever, and I see now you think you have the ability to know what I'm thinking! Alrighty then!!!!!!!

[burrnmusic]

exactly! dont tell anyone! sometimes God wants testimonies hidden. could this be the case with the resurrections?

sometimes people told of what happened (woman at the well).

sometimes not.

sometimes God wants information public, sometimes not.

[vinnieActs2030]

Nice try! Your stretching Burn!

[burrnmusic]

stretching? we see here a Biblical account of God intending a miracle to be a secret. do you have a different interpretation of what this would mean? its in the Word of God, it cant be dismissed.

[Shyne131]

So he went to all those stupid "revival" meetings that supposedly God was at. There was such heavy " anointings" that he kept telling everyone to come get some.... So HOW did he become disconnected from God while there ????

So when he stands before the Lord on judgement day, is he gonna try and cop a "not guilty by reason of insanity plea " ????? Don't think it'll fly. Good video God bless, Shyne

[EncompassedRunner]

Thanks for obedience to the biblical command to exposes such heretics. Just yesterday I met a young person from another country far away who came to US to hear Bentley, to hear a lie! How this grieves me.

[JasmineMcEgan]

Rick Joyner said, "If you don't love God, then you will trip up." Hmmm, does this mean TB hates God because of all the abominations he has taught and committed? Just something to think about.

[vinnieActs2030]

Good catch Jasmine

Is Joyner saying that Todd didn't Love God that's why he did what he did? Another thing implied here is at the very end Todd said the only way you can kill the carnal nature is by prayer!

What about the cross? Todd hasn't been to the cross yet, that is the whole problem. He has served the "other Jesus" he needs to serve the real Jesus, the one of the bible.

[AManCalledPeter]

O that's a good one JimQualls!

Excellent suggestion.

And...I wonder what has become of the hundreds, maybe thousands of people he baptized in the name of "BAM" and in the name of "SHEEKABOOMBA"?

Of course, Todd CAN be forgiven if he truly repents but for him to return to ministry...absurd! In my 59 saved years, Todd's ministry is the most vile I have seen.

[carpentersdaughter2]

It's one thing to be truly repentant of sins, but when he exploits his sin for gain, then he walks on very dangerous ground.

He still is in his false teaching mode, so how can there be true repentance? I pray that he would want to know God's truth and preach, good sound biblical doctrines.

Good video Vinnie, keep up the good work.

Linda

[JimQualls]

"Emma" the demonic angel is the "leader" of all these guys. Todd, who found himself unemployed when he ran from the National News Media when they demanded PROOF was a THREAT to the Kansas City prophets. He either gets "restored" or he writes a "TELL ALL" confessional exposing these scum bags and he becomes a star on the Oprah show with a #1 Best Seller.

I have a copy of Todd's "Angelic Hosts" where Todd claims the entire "prophetic" movement was birthed by "Emma" the angel.

[Utopiang]

Hi Jim,

It is always a joy to read your thought-provoking posts and your wise use of the Lord's sciptures. God bless you and yours, my dear brother.

I am not sure if you know it but Todd Bentley claimed that the angel was originally WIliam Branham's. He stated that the angel was imparted to him as a 'special annointing'.

You can see the video on YouTube if you wish to (cut and paste the code into the YouTube search bar):

watch?v=VtkG80wAEmA

With love to you in Christ, our Lord.

[JimQualls]

Thanks, Utopiang. I think Todd called that angel the "Winds of Change." He said it came to him as he was starting his full time "ministry" ?

Bob Jones, he says, later told him about Emma, the one who created the Kansas City Prophets, then Emma became his 'revival" angel.

One thing about Todd, he never lets TRUTH stand in the way of a GOOD SHOW.

[Utopiang]

Jim, if you like you can also read about Bentley claiming Branham's mantel and an eye-witness account detailing Branham's supposed angelically assisted "healings" on the internet under the search words:

"End Times Prophetic - Todd Bentley and William Branham share the same healing mantle!"

God bless you.

[JimQualls]

Todd could clear all this up by having ALL the peope (30+) he claimed were "Raised from the DEAD" during the revival come and give public support for his "restoration."