Some of them haven't seen their families in a decade. I'm sure they're angry by now. If they were released, they might go home and talk about what they've been through, and then a lot of other people will be angry. Hell, if we're lucky, they'll go through legal channels and international courts and get some justice. If not, it might turn uglier. I think the long and short of it is that we'll have to offer them something l to make up for the prison sentence without benefit of legal defense.
Should have been released, should have had a campaign to get it to #1.
Rage Against The X Factor? I'd rather have a Divine Retribution Against Camp X-Ray any day. It would certainly be a more noble endeavour, wouldn't you say?
I watched 2 seconds of this video and couldnt cope with it. Whit a bloody hell of a life some people have. Can we not get it together folks? Peace and Love, Love and Peace. Its all that matters.X
No Doubt. Americans are the dirtiest nation in history of the world. They killed the most people than any other Nation in the history. Time will come... When Sons of Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Germany, Spain, France, Palestine will move back the time, to show them.
How it feels. When you kill their people, when you kill a son in front of his mother. How it feels when a wife sees her husband burning alive in front of her eyes.
@luckslave You ought to read some history. The Americans learnt their methods from the Brits. Even Hitler stated that he learnt concentration camps from us Brits. Look at the boer war for the first concentration camps. Look at what the Brits did in Africa / Asia / Ireland to see what PEOPLE are capable of. America are just the latest imperialists. It is not Americans, it is humans. Best to fight for freedom, without also become a killer of the innocent.
@shuffleknuckle5 Very good point well made that man. How does anybody think that Britain became "great"? By taking a large dump over the rest of the world. . . just the same as the majority of the West. . . Germany, Holland, Spain, France. . . We can't really sit in judgement can we now.
There is no political solution To our troubled evolution Have no faith in constitution There is no bloody revolution Our so-called leaders speak With words they try to jail you They subjugate the meek But it's the rhetoric of failure Props: Tom, Trent, Marilyn, Michael, Eddie, and David. Ventura Sheehan Perot Paul Nader McKinney Kucinich Kaptur Grayson Gravel Gonzalez Clemente Choate Carter Baldwin Anderson
Why there are no officials from the US on trial in the Hague is because the US have not signed the treaty on the international court of law. That kind of says it all...
I think anybody who is in favour of Guantanamo has to be pretty ignorant. Whether that's ignorance in terms of knowledge and understanding or simple humanity, either way it's ignorance. As for the song itself, I applaud the sentiments but I'm a little undecided... Hannon's been off form for a while now.
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This is an atrocious situation. But there is one thing I really don't agree with is 'Rock Stars' being sentimentality to sell their product. Mr Hammond, you've provided inspiration to me and others for the past 15 years. But you would be better using your wit to write a speech and run for office.
Gitmo = no habeas corpus & many died during torture
New book by Former Gitmo Sec Off writes that our torturing at Gitmo is not only a heinous & useless abomination; it is in fact the direct cause of the deaths of over 3000 US Soldiers!
Why is there torture by Americans?
Likely these abominations of war & torture are merely an extension of the typical Americans brutal mind; a mind corrupted by a pathological disassociation of compassion that is inherent to the corporate working stiff
maybe if your on craic. if youre any way objective you see that although they were completely wrong its pretty conclusive it was a 'innocent' mistake not a conscience one. everyones wrong in this world some just a little bit more.
I think that its you may have been chasing the "Dragoons Tail!!!" Its all about "OIL" and Haliburtan and making money!!! If Iraqs main export was "Broccoli!" would there be "Boots on the ground" over there..... whats the odds!!!
"conorsmurf" with that type of logic one could justify and "airbrush" any despotic deed!! maybethose WW2 criminals should have used same at "Nuremburg trials!!!!!" Those who use torture are far from "innocent"and it was not a"mistake"....they begrade all of our shared humanity with such a practice........
the comment has been placed out of ontext in its current position it was a comment replying to a comment referring to the reasons for invading Iraq. Which it has been stated by many bodies the world leaders who invaded honestly believed there were WMD and that's why they invaded. There were CIA members who just made shit up but they worked probably without George Bush and Blairs knowledge. Calm people calm.
Gosh. I'd not heard this before.How to respond? I don't know... but the images sickened me and coupled with the powerful words of the song they sum up all that I feel about torture, propaganda, war - and to express my current misery - the state of play today.
what passionate responses this powerful song evokes...I can see why this has not been released, which some brave soul out there would do it! Highsummer..where did you get this?
You lot should be embarrassed by yourselves. You're both ruled by fucking cocks. Don't worry, I know we are too.
Instead of wasting your life slagging each other off because of where lines are drawn on a map, belt up & get your shit together. You must have some brains cos you came & listened to this fucking song.
Stop embarrassing yourselves & do something about what this song is about. Or do your talents only lie in typing on keyboards?
YOU'VE shown your weakness so I must pounce.And Dr Freud will agree.You're angry,insecure.you're use of foul language displays your severe sexual frustrations.Of no sex at all.With the exception of his dominate hand.Possibly both?And is in absolute denial of his homosexual urges..Has deep hidden fear he may never reproduce due 2 sexual preference u can come out we'll except u.You're a phenomenal debater.Extraordinary! no need to go porno bro!
I agree he is over rated. however, his book on interpretation of dreams holds some clout.I was just using his name .Any Dr would agree hows that?.as for talking trash I was having a polite debate on radical muslims..And out of nowhere I was provoked with foul language and very rude insults..you need too read all the comments between dominogray and myself before you judge me as insensible..
wake up! you must have a weak memory.these are radical fanatical muslims.who fly planes into buildings.strap bombs to their bodies blowing themselves up and killing innocent women and children..these same fanatics kill other innocent muslims and anyone else who do not follow their twisted religious beliefs ..is that rational enough for you?as for critical progress..the comments on this page put fear to shame and scare the hell out of me!united we stand divided we fall,we fall,we fall,we fall....
So your counter argument to mine, which is that the right wing uses fear to manipulate and cloud any possibility for reasonable discussion, is to remind us of why we should be so FEARful
I wonder if you can get leukemia from this level of ironic radiation
The partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions.
look man I'M not a right winger.never was a bush fan.I got nut'n against Canada..although it seems u got much hate 4 my country .because of one man..he'll get his.Lo! sin by sin and sorrow dogg'd by sorrow-- And who the end can know? he slayer of today shall die tomorrow-- The wage of wrong is woe...that being said the fact remains these are radical idiots the kill innocence
The piece about America versus Canada had nothing to do with you. Some prick started ranting about how my country was a socialist mess that was dwarfed by the sheer awesomeness of America. I must have mixed the reply button.
There are radical idiots who kill innocents. But there are laws of cause and effect that the rational man must acknowledge.
If you torture people to prove they're radical idiots, you become a radical idiot.
You can't claim to be above those people, when you act the same.
pull yourself out from that deep ocean of latency ..when they attack your country who ya gonna call? ghost busters?nope.the royal canadian mounties?nope.YOU'RE GONNA CALL THE BIG BAD US OF A..AYYY..TAKE OFF AYYY!
We're not calling shit because we aren't stirring shit.
You want to know what actually does worry me though? When the largest power in the world considers torture without trial an acceptable means of national security. That worries me much more than your phantoms
Terrific and powerful song. Torture has an indirect way of creating more war deaths by virtue of the fear the enemy will have of getting caught if torture is SOP. To avoid that fate, the enemy combatant will provide greater resistance which creates the likelihood of killing more American as well as enemy soldiers. If the enemy knows that capture will result in humane treatment, he might be more likely to lay down arms with less resistance, resulting in fewer casualities for both sides.
Fuckin'ell. I've never seen that. Sobering and bang on the money. Absolutely what I believe, too. There is also strong evidence that confessions received under torture are unreliable. Victims will confess to anything to make the pain stop.
So, torture is not just morally wrong, it's also unreliable. Guantanamo bay? Yeh, I'm ashamed.
Too true Soulfree2008 the crimes against humanity that the Americans are committing in Abu Graib and Guantamano are utterly horrifying, what is the world coming to when the self appointed leader of the western world shames us all with their unspeakable crimes against their fellow man?
Actually Soulfree2008 it must have been a glitch, I only posted the comment once, I thought you were falsely accusing me of posting it on several clips (hence my inserting your name) before I scrolled down and saw it repeated several times.
Too true RURIGHT the crimes against humanity that the Americans are committing in Abu Graib and Guantamano are utterly horrifying, what is the world coming to when the self appointed leader of the western world shames us all with their unspeakable crimes against their fellow man?
When we look back at history in the years to come, the world will wonder why the USA for generations was allowed to take over the world. It is certainly not a good thing.
You know I am here serving and I STILL have yet to form such strong opinions of this place. I will tell you that some of these photos in this art project are misrepresentations of Guantanamo. These other photos did not come from here.
VIVAN HUGO CHAVEZ, FIDEL CASTRO, MAHAMUD A. (IRAN) CHE GUEVARA, MORELOS... yanquis cobardes algun dia despertara mi raza de su letargo y tragaran su mierda condolezza, Bush, Arnold Z., y todos los USA. AZTECA
don't blame bush this problem is older than him and will outlive him. its kind of funny how this has been known for so long but nobody brings it up unless they have selfish notions.
nothing against America itself, we only have problem with brainwashed Zombies like you, Every American who opposed the wars and deaths of innocents are in our prayers, and yes people like u are in our curses.
Only americans could be stupid enough to believe the Bush "war on terror" rubbish. Bush and Cheney have a party every 911...they have personally made billions from their fake war in Iraq
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Good thats where all muslems should be. Thats the only way we have freedom, another thing! There is no forgivness for what they did on 9-11 there shall be no mercy to those who threaten freedom! Fuck Islam!
Here we see our past,present and probable future as we are all branded 'terrorists' by those upholding 'freedom,justice,liberty' freedom for them to bomb,rape and terrorise,freedom from justice and at liberty to do as they see fit in ruining our world and our common humanity.
Excellent song, Being a huge divine comedy fan I would say that! :)
I hate the hypocrisy of the American government. If any other country (or at least any country that's not important to American interests) detained Americans without any proof of wrong doing. They would probably join the Axis of evil.
Yanks came late to both World Wars and sucked in as much as they could.Fair enough. Now they are empire building and are ignoring there father/mother lands wishes.Think USA, from whence do you spring? You are not native.
I appreciate your compassion for fellow human beings, i really do. But its the mindless and spineless who repeat what you are saying and cant see the difference between innocent european jews in WW2 and facist terrorists in the GWOT.
The majority (majority=more than half) of the "facist terrorists" are innocent middle eastern muslims, captured and shipped for american dollars. Hopefully someone will go to prison for this. The GWOT is a brandname created by morons. Take 10 minutes to read this: google "if iran were america"
I worry when I read that you have made a distinction between one set of people and another. We know that Menachim Begin was a terrorist. He wasn't an ''innocent Jew'' . He was a terrorist who murdered British soldiers. Some of whom had liberated death camps containing Jews.
Trouble with your view of the world is that it's pretty close to the Nazi view. There are those ''who deserve it'' and there are those who are ''innocent''. Murder and torture are unacceptable. Period.
I believe you need to learn English. People should be able to spell like a 5th grader before they're allowed to tell others that their opinion should be caged. btw QQ more. Im Antt-terroist.
I find a lot of the comments on here very interesting. I dont see how this song is anti American or even the video. Its pointing out a glaring error in the way the situation is handled and the fact its likely to come back and bite you...or in fact is biting you.
I believe in LOVE,I believe in PEOPLE,not matter where they come from,I don't believe in leaders or politics,it's obvious they're absolute shit,most of the people in this OUR planet,want to live their lives in PEACE everyday,we all know that.Those who use violence,no matter where they come from are wrong,It's as simple as that and all the rest is a terrible lie.I can do nothing but send you all my LOVE.
I agree my friend,eye of the needle is a masterpiece,if only music could reach people's hearts like it touches ours...the world would be a whole lot better.Love.
BUSH hijo de puta coño de madre todos se pondran en tu contra y todo lo que has hecho a todas esas personas inocentes lo pagaras...viva chavez venezuela...
I found it unbeleivable that BUSH talked about iran NOT treating 15 british soildiers they took as per Geneva conventions!!! WTF is GITMO?? does he seriously beleive it complies with geneva conventions?? or "suspect renderings" to places where they can freely torture?? abu ghuraib must too be firmly within geneva conventions!! What the fuck is wrong with USA and its president??? the world is looising its respect for you....
Some blame the media, but it's the Bush Administration who has allowed indefinite detainment, warrantless spying on American citizens, the systematic loosening of rules regarding interrogation, the black sites, the practice of extraordinary rendition, intentionally leaking a CIA agent's name to silence a critic, sending young men and women off to their deaths based on false information and pursuing a worthless strategy for years on end, while bodies continue to pile.
When we blur the line between the actions of our government and the actions of the repressive regimes we seek to oppose, people like Osama Bin Laden get stronger. To quote David Bowie, we've been "putting out fire with gasoline". This the point Hannon is driving at. If we cannot play by the rules of our own legal justice system, then how can we claim any sort of moral high ground?
Thousands have lost there lives over a threat that did not exist in a war marketed like a brand of soap. How many have been detained in GITMO for years and then freed without prosecution?
And don't tell me you like the US,and personaly I donb't give a rats ass what you or any other low bred ignorant foreigners think of us anyway! Our economy and growth out performs every country in the world! You're all a bunch of Jealous bastards!
Diplomatic words! I love a lot of things about Ameirka. What i don't like is the feeling of living in a giant unfinished shop, wheeling around in our gas-chugging trolleys. Not jealous of that at all.
highsummer... I guess you would know! Your country, along with the other despot Marxist countries, has just come out of the "Dark Ages" Thanks to the USA you now experience a freedom your parents did not enjoy! The USA bankrupted the USSR which broke up the Soviet Union and their hold on Eastern Europe. I think you need to just be honest and stop this unfound hatred!
Hey, I love the US! Mark Twain, Bob Dylan, jazz, Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Kerouac, the blues, Tom Waits, Woody Allen, Looney Tunes, Vanilla Coke, the Camaro...but good things don't necessarily excuse historical crimes of the highest order.
Ok explain the high crimes! This video is pure propaganda! Those who mistreated the P.O.W.s have been tried and convicted,dishonorably discharged etc! Sure crimes take place in war but to make it sound like it it a daily thing is unfounded! I served in Vietnam and saw thousands of hand tied victims of the communist!
Those who lied you into this war have not been tried. Everything related to that war is thus a crime. Those who machinated the Iran-Iraq war have not been tried. Why do Iraqis and Iranians hate the US? It's not all crazy Islam you know.
What lies? You're a fool highsummer and the liar! All you know is what you hear on your "State Run TV" which is anti-Israel and America! I've been to your country and I know what you see on your TV's and see in the newspapers!
So you speak Hungarian! Maybe you can tell me which tv channel is the state-owned one, and which is the Murdoch-owned one. Because I don't watch tv. Maybe you're watching too much over there. It's dangerous.
Ohhh we quake in the boots of your economic growth statistics! I bet the underprivileged people of New Orleans were glad that they live in a country of such impressive growth statistics when they were dying, because the rich who control the White House are more interested in securing Iraqi oil than the well being of their own people.
high crimes = prisoners of Guantanamo Military Prison are imprisoned without trial. Even if you could prove, EagleSeven, that the conduct inside the compound is entirely legal and humane, their insertion into it was not.
Plus it only fuels hatred of the United States and aggravates those that the US are trying to tranquilize.
In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America, he said:
highsummer...Are you aware that the United States is the only country in history that had the power to rule and conquer the world and did not because of our belief in freedom and liberty! In 1945 we had the "BOMB" And no one else did! If we wanted to, we could have ruled the world, but did we? No! You have no basis for your arguments! You're just Jealous!
Who is this mythical "we"? The Romans ruled the world too for a while. Being the best at industrialised savagery an empire makes. How jealous we post-colonials are/were/are...
What's great about the USA is that we are a nation of nations united in Liberty and Freedom and have fought wars for that freedom! You people who hate the USA remember that we are you! For it was your people who came here! If Russia had been the sole victors in WWII I guarantee the world would be much different! We'd all be in bread lines! And if the United States should fall may God help the world!!
The US has NEVER fought a war for freedom. I apologise for sounding extreme, but your simplistic schoolbook history really offends my delicate old european sensibilities. Your wars have all been for EXPANSION of the BUBBLE. (sorry for shouting...)
BollywoodScampy... France's war against the English was not based on procuring American Liberty; it was a war against English expansion especially in North America! It was self serving! But we are grateful nevertheless!
All wars are self-serving. And all wars are self-serving to a surprisingly small group of people, no matter how many farm-boys on both sides are blown to bits.
And look at Russia and Hungry under Marxist Socialism the people are still in a daze! They've lived off the state for so long they can't even tie their shoes without government help!! They have had to steal ideas from the west! Look at their Space Shuttle and their Jets! They could be great nations again but I am afraid it will take years or they may yet fall back into the despotism of socialism!
Highsummer! Yea Europe is "Over Crowed and dirty! Bathrooms are filthy and people are rather rude compared to the States! Canadians and Americans have a much cleaner environment to live in and are much friendlier. If you don't like the "Big city you can drive for thousands of pristine miles North, East, West and South.
Socialism is for lazy nations, lazy people and people who can't think for themselves! They have to have the government make decisions for them! They can't give to the poor themselves they have to have the government force it from them by taxes! Europe is near ruins because of socialism. Look at Russia!
Before welfare in America the churches helped the poor get back on their feet, and they were responsible to the churches. Today the government gives aide with no following up, they therefore many remain poor.
They have no incentive to get work when the government pays for everything while the main body of Americans works hard to support them.
Most of the people who are poor in the US choose to be poor by dropping out of school, having babies out of wedlock and use drugs. Help should not be a lifetime of social welfare, but to help those truly in need!
Yes, but Europe is just so much cooler than the US. Face the facts, my friend. More unemployment but better unemployment benefits too! Thank God for godless socialism...
What's wrong with Socialism moilidiot ? Plenty!! Explain Social Justice? Socialism is Communism in Drag! It stifles creativity and the incentive to be more of what you could be! Socialism looks good on paper but doesn't work in real life. Look at all the Socialist Countries in the world and you will see that they are far behind the USA. Europe has a 9 to 12 % unemployment rate, compared to the 4.3% USA. And it takes 17 weeks to see a Medical specialist etc.
what's wrong exactly with socialism, you morrons? the idea is social justice, the wealthier help the poorer. that's what taxes and public service are about. i don't have any problem with giving money to the state if it goes to people who struggle. Well maybe that's the difference between Europe and the USA...
Last year( 2005/2006 ) Fox News was allowed to broadcast in Canada for the first time with tremendous opposition from the left! There is no "Free Speech" in Canada!
Well as any dimwitted asshole punk can see, rampant capitalism doesn't work without wars of conquest. Specifically Yankee wars of conquest. Mexico, Spain (Phillipines), Hawaii (ok, a coup), PROVOCATION of Japan (non one's an angel here), 40 years of your stupid cold war (the saints are coming!), and now the scary ragheads. The bubble must continually EXPAND...
Russia didn't have the money or economy to fight Germany you dimwit! It was American Industry that defeated the AXIS in 1945 and it was the American Economy asso that Re-Built Western Europe and Japan while the East under Russia laid in ruins for 60 years!
By the way I think Fox 'News' should be mainstreamed into everyone's home outside the US. Many people question me as to how can a nation so large be so gullible. If the rest of the world could see some of the state propoganda that's churned out there, they may understand a little better.
I have lived in the US, Canada, France, Ireland, and "Hungry" (as you comedically say, which was 'liberated' not by the yanks but by the russkies, thanks very much) and have got to the point in my life where I know which one of the above I would not like to raise my child in. And its got nothing to do with socialism, just LOGIC...
Russia didn't have the money or economy to fight Germany you dimwit! It was American Industry that defeated the AXIS in 1945 and it was the American Economy asso that Re-Built Western Europe and Japan while the East under Russia laid in ruins for 60 years!
This will be my last remarks on this topic. This Video is Propaganda! One day I hope the world will wake up to the Threat of Fascist Islam and their war against the West and the world! But I'm afraid it won't until it's too late. If a video as this can turn people against the country that has done more for the freedom and liberties of people around the world then I must conclude that all is lost!
Believe what you want and die in your ignorance and deception!
Some of them haven't seen their families in a decade. I'm sure they're angry by now. If they were released, they might go home and talk about what they've been through, and then a lot of other people will be angry. Hell, if we're lucky, they'll go through legal channels and international courts and get some justice. If not, it might turn uglier. I think the long and short of it is that we'll have to offer them something l to make up for the prison sentence without benefit of legal defense.
Sheilanagig 3 months ago
Should have been released, should have had a campaign to get it to #1.
Rage Against The X Factor? I'd rather have a Divine Retribution Against Camp X-Ray any day. It would certainly be a more noble endeavour, wouldn't you say?
arbeitsscheuer 8 months ago
I watched 2 seconds of this video and couldnt cope with it. Whit a bloody hell of a life some people have. Can we not get it together folks? Peace and Love, Love and Peace. Its all that matters.X
123jsbach 11 months ago
Sounds like Sweden.
HannahSolMusic 1 year ago
The man photographed at 2.30 is Manadel Al-Jamadi; Specialist Sabrina Harman gives the thumbs up sign over his corpse.
He was kept "off the books".
fireiciclespark 1 year ago
thank god for the day of judgment
SETSETCIRCLE 1 year ago
If John Lennon were still with us then I'd like to think he'd have written something like this.
Irarelycommentbut 1 year ago 4
The good ol' US of A
BurkeHare1 1 year ago
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PlasticPaddySociaist 2 years ago
If they move Guantanamo to Illinois it will make no difference. Prisoners of war in a war that never ends are a real problem.
allyoursphotography1 2 years ago
No Doubt. Americans are the dirtiest nation in history of the world. They killed the most people than any other Nation in the history. Time will come... When Sons of Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Germany, Spain, France, Palestine will move back the time, to show them.
How it feels. When you kill their people, when you kill a son in front of his mother. How it feels when a wife sees her husband burning alive in front of her eyes.
You have to pay for what you take.
luckslave 2 years ago
@luckslave You ought to read some history. The Americans learnt their methods from the Brits. Even Hitler stated that he learnt concentration camps from us Brits. Look at the boer war for the first concentration camps. Look at what the Brits did in Africa / Asia / Ireland to see what PEOPLE are capable of. America are just the latest imperialists. It is not Americans, it is humans. Best to fight for freedom, without also become a killer of the innocent.
shuffleknuckle5 1 year ago 2
@shuffleknuckle5 Very good point well made that man. How does anybody think that Britain became "great"? By taking a large dump over the rest of the world. . . just the same as the majority of the West. . . Germany, Holland, Spain, France. . . We can't really sit in judgement can we now.
sherwoodfella 1 year ago
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ryanshaunkelly 2 years ago
Why there are no officials from the US on trial in the Hague is because the US have not signed the treaty on the international court of law. That kind of says it all...
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RubbishProductions90 2 years ago
How stupid do you need to be to make a statement like this?
fbhjr68 2 years ago
Btw Hannon hasn't tried in any way to sell himself on the back of this song - it's positively under the radar.
tonberrykinged 3 years ago 3
I think anybody who is in favour of Guantanamo has to be pretty ignorant. Whether that's ignorance in terms of knowledge and understanding or simple humanity, either way it's ignorance. As for the song itself, I applaud the sentiments but I'm a little undecided... Hannon's been off form for a while now.
tonberrykinged 3 years ago 3
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This is an atrocious situation. But there is one thing I really don't agree with is 'Rock Stars' being sentimentality to sell their product. Mr Hammond, you've provided inspiration to me and others for the past 15 years. But you would be better using your wit to write a speech and run for office.
SSHELLEYS 3 years ago
Mr Hammond?
Cliech 3 years ago
FUCK USA !
Grobar007BanjaLuka 3 years ago
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Gitmo = no habeas corpus & many died during torture
New book by Former Gitmo Sec Off writes that our torturing at Gitmo is not only a heinous & useless abomination; it is in fact the direct cause of the deaths of over 3000 US Soldiers!
Why is there torture by Americans?
Likely these abominations of war & torture are merely an extension of the typical Americans brutal mind; a mind corrupted by a pathological disassociation of compassion that is inherent to the corporate working stiff
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
Mr Obama, take heed...you'd better make this place history.
englishman10000 3 years ago 12
I heard that they were planning to shut Guantanamo down in the near future.
Or is that just wishful thinking?
And why aren't the camp officials on trial at the hague? What's going on???
PatchworkPorpoise 3 years ago 2
Why isn't GEORGE BUSH on trial at the Hague? Or Tony Blair? What they've done is just as atrocious as any banana republic junta or guerrilla warlord.
saltandfinagar 3 years ago 22
maybe if your on craic. if youre any way objective you see that although they were completely wrong its pretty conclusive it was a 'innocent' mistake not a conscience one. everyones wrong in this world some just a little bit more.
conorsmurf 2 years ago
You: 100% wrong.
thejmags 2 years ago
yes and all international countries joined in in a global conspiracy to support there 'intentional' killing of a nation and thousand os soldiers?
the days when ne world order conspiracy theories were allowed without a crazy permit are long gone.
conorsmurf 2 years ago
I think that its you may have been chasing the "Dragoons Tail!!!" Its all about "OIL" and Haliburtan and making money!!! If Iraqs main export was "Broccoli!" would there be "Boots on the ground" over there..... whats the odds!!!
malachy1847 2 years ago
Does dragoons tail refer to opium? Couldn't find any reference on the internets... Thanks!
conorsmurf 2 years ago
"conorsmurf" with that type of logic one could justify and "airbrush" any despotic deed!! maybethose WW2 criminals should have used same at "Nuremburg trials!!!!!" Those who use torture are far from "innocent"and it was not a"mistake"....they begrade all of our shared humanity with such a practice........
malachy1847 2 years ago
the comment has been placed out of ontext in its current position it was a comment replying to a comment referring to the reasons for invading Iraq. Which it has been stated by many bodies the world leaders who invaded honestly believed there were WMD and that's why they invaded. There were CIA members who just made shit up but they worked probably without George Bush and Blairs knowledge. Calm people calm.
conorsmurf 2 years ago
@saltandfinagar hahaha I think you mean Barrack Obama now ... funny how a couple years change things huh,
this place is a sad inherited curse and as such no one you have the balls to shut it down .
and politicians know they can always use the "hope" of closing it as a way to get votes.
helrod 1 year ago
@PatchworkPorpoise
The Terrorists are now in American Soil...to be judged! (Bad Idea)
BTW-The Pre-emptive War is NOT original...look at LBJ and Vietnam!
Yourmomisnthere 2 years ago
no mas guerras,no mas sufrimiento de inocentes,paz en el mundo y que se mueran los violentos y asesinos que no dejan vivir en paz
bonito video...gracias a "chaperodeturno"
minipadix 3 years ago
Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo! La letras, muy bonito! Pero yo no sé chaperodeturno.
Perdona! mi español es muy, muy mal!
Shane72 3 years ago
There's a woman I know well in Brighton who managed to free a man named Omar from Guantanamo Bay. She's still trying to get more people out.
MrThompson626 3 years ago
Gosh. I'd not heard this before.How to respond? I don't know... but the images sickened me and coupled with the powerful words of the song they sum up all that I feel about torture, propaganda, war - and to express my current misery - the state of play today.
yhapster 3 years ago 3
what passionate responses this powerful song evokes...I can see why this has not been released, which some brave soul out there would do it! Highsummer..where did you get this?
englishman10000 3 years ago
You lot should be embarrassed by yourselves. You're both ruled by fucking cocks. Don't worry, I know we are too.
Instead of wasting your life slagging each other off because of where lines are drawn on a map, belt up & get your shit together. You must have some brains cos you came & listened to this fucking song.
Stop embarrassing yourselves & do something about what this song is about. Or do your talents only lie in typing on keyboards?
Peace, love & all that shit.
thechevronband 3 years ago
Nice one mate, agree 100% Jez
sherwoodfella 3 years ago
YOU'VE shown your weakness so I must pounce.And Dr Freud will agree.You're angry,insecure.you're use of foul language displays your severe sexual frustrations.Of no sex at all.With the exception of his dominate hand.Possibly both?And is in absolute denial of his homosexual urges..Has deep hidden fear he may never reproduce due 2 sexual preference u can come out we'll except u.You're a phenomenal debater.Extraordinary! no need to go porno bro!
77r4355 3 years ago
Dr Freud is *so* overrated... Really, freudian stuff is of no consequence at all in virtually any argument.
And provoking perfectly sensible people into talking trash, then "pouncing" - that's just sad. Behave.
GeyserToo 3 years ago
I agree he is over rated. however, his book on interpretation of dreams holds some clout.I was just using his name .Any Dr would agree hows that?.as for talking trash I was having a polite debate on radical muslims..And out of nowhere I was provoked with foul language and very rude insults..you need too read all the comments between dominogray and myself before you judge me as insensible..
77r4355 3 years ago
B.S. these same poor little prisoners as you call them.. would decapitate you and me if they had the chance..
wake up!
77r4355 3 years ago
Fear
Fear
MORE FEAR!
That's the way we make rational, critical progress. Fuck A man
DominoGray 3 years ago
wake up! you must have a weak memory.these are radical fanatical muslims.who fly planes into buildings.strap bombs to their bodies blowing themselves up and killing innocent women and children..these same fanatics kill other innocent muslims and anyone else who do not follow their twisted religious beliefs ..is that rational enough for you?as for critical progress..the comments on this page put fear to shame and scare the hell out of me!united we stand divided we fall,we fall,we fall,we fall....
77r4355 3 years ago
So your counter argument to mine, which is that the right wing uses fear to manipulate and cloud any possibility for reasonable discussion, is to remind us of why we should be so FEARful
I wonder if you can get leukemia from this level of ironic radiation
DominoGray 3 years ago
The partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions.
77r4355 3 years ago
look man I'M not a right winger.never was a bush fan.I got nut'n against Canada..although it seems u got much hate 4 my country .because of one man..he'll get his.Lo! sin by sin and sorrow dogg'd by sorrow-- And who the end can know? he slayer of today shall die tomorrow-- The wage of wrong is woe...that being said the fact remains these are radical idiots the kill innocence
77r4355 3 years ago
The piece about America versus Canada had nothing to do with you. Some prick started ranting about how my country was a socialist mess that was dwarfed by the sheer awesomeness of America. I must have mixed the reply button.
There are radical idiots who kill innocents. But there are laws of cause and effect that the rational man must acknowledge.
If you torture people to prove they're radical idiots, you become a radical idiot.
You can't claim to be above those people, when you act the same.
DominoGray 3 years ago
thats it resort to name calling..grow up!
pull yourself out from that deep ocean of latency ..when they attack your country who ya gonna call? ghost busters?nope.the royal canadian mounties?nope.YOU'RE GONNA CALL THE BIG BAD US OF A..AYYY..TAKE OFF AYYY!
77r4355 3 years ago
Who's attacking Canada? Iran? No. China? No. Afghanistan or Iraq? No.
We're not calling shit because we aren't stirring shit.
You want to know what actually does worry me though? When the largest power in the world considers torture without trial an acceptable means of national security. That worries me much more than your phantoms
DominoGray 3 years ago
yanks should be ashamed war mongers.
VoxJoxx 3 years ago
Terrific and powerful song. Torture has an indirect way of creating more war deaths by virtue of the fear the enemy will have of getting caught if torture is SOP. To avoid that fate, the enemy combatant will provide greater resistance which creates the likelihood of killing more American as well as enemy soldiers. If the enemy knows that capture will result in humane treatment, he might be more likely to lay down arms with less resistance, resulting in fewer casualities for both sides.
rschreck 3 years ago
Simply amazing.
Can't write anything else.
thewetdogproject 3 years ago
Neil Hannon needs so much more recognition tbh.
His songwriting is pure genious.
And if anyone can say that this song isn't one of the best songs ever written;
they need an appointment to get their ears checked :)
the divine comedy<3
BexHeartsMCR 3 years ago 2
anyone know where I can I find this powerful tune? Not on iTunes...
englishman10000 3 years ago
Fuckin'ell. I've never seen that. Sobering and bang on the money. Absolutely what I believe, too. There is also strong evidence that confessions received under torture are unreliable. Victims will confess to anything to make the pain stop.
So, torture is not just morally wrong, it's also unreliable. Guantanamo bay? Yeh, I'm ashamed.
Thank you for posting.
SwearyOne 3 years ago
Neil has surpassed himself even by his own high standards.
JimHewittWhite 3 years ago 3
Too true Soulfree2008 the crimes against humanity that the Americans are committing in Abu Graib and Guantamano are utterly horrifying, what is the world coming to when the self appointed leader of the western world shames us all with their unspeakable crimes against their fellow man?
thememoryhole*org/war/iraqis_tortured/
* = 'dot'
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Actually Soulfree2008 it must have been a glitch, I only posted the comment once, I thought you were falsely accusing me of posting it on several clips (hence my inserting your name) before I scrolled down and saw it repeated several times.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
wonderful chilling song, thanks for uploading and thanks Neil....sadly still true.
englishman10000 4 years ago
Too true RURIGHT the crimes against humanity that the Americans are committing in Abu Graib and Guantamano are utterly horrifying, what is the world coming to when the self appointed leader of the western world shames us all with their unspeakable crimes against their fellow man?
thememoryhole*org/war/iraqis_tortured/
* = 'dot'
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
When we look back at history in the years to come, the world will wonder why the USA for generations was allowed to take over the world. It is certainly not a good thing.
moldav9 4 years ago
You know I am here serving and I STILL have yet to form such strong opinions of this place. I will tell you that some of these photos in this art project are misrepresentations of Guantanamo. These other photos did not come from here.
RainbowPixie1320 4 years ago 2
VIVAN HUGO CHAVEZ, FIDEL CASTRO, MAHAMUD A. (IRAN) CHE GUEVARA, MORELOS... yanquis cobardes algun dia despertara mi raza de su letargo y tragaran su mierda condolezza, Bush, Arnold Z., y todos los USA. AZTECA
zavala0223 4 years ago
Hola Zavala! Tienes razon. Viva en pais Cuba- es muy lindo. Lleva Condoleza y Bush en este prison para siempre. Saludos cordiales para ti!
marravilla 4 years ago
Que gusto me da que compartas mi punto de vista Maravilla.
Por que hay tanta maldad?
zavala0223 4 years ago
and soz i dint mean to giv u a thums dwn
gobeewala 4 years ago
these guys are twats go watch 'The Road to Guantanamo Bay' that will tell you the truth about the americns and the 'war on terror' all bullshit
gobeewala 4 years ago
lol what a nice sight of what's called terror.nice song
doodoodee 4 years ago
don't blame bush this problem is older than him and will outlive him. its kind of funny how this has been known for so long but nobody brings it up unless they have selfish notions.
helrod 4 years ago
Good song.Good video.Well done.
irishmusico 4 years ago
nothing against America itself, we only have problem with brainwashed Zombies like you, Every American who opposed the wars and deaths of innocents are in our prayers, and yes people like u are in our curses.
PunjabiMuslimah 4 years ago 5
no more Guantanamos'
joeblur 4 years ago 2
ALL SHUT THE FUCK UP
creatical 4 years ago
Only americans could be stupid enough to believe the Bush "war on terror" rubbish. Bush and Cheney have a party every 911...they have personally made billions from their fake war in Iraq
daniiminogueforever 4 years ago 4
Great song. Interesting comparison to 70's Northern Ireland...
mocarro 4 years ago 3
Yes! There is no forgiveness for what they did on 9-11! The whole world agrees... EXCEPT THAT IS WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! Fucking brainwhased american!
Kontodasganas 4 years ago
Un peu de politique... ou de l'engagement...
En tout cas, chacun apporte sa contribution comme il le peut...
ericloute 4 years ago
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Good thats where all muslems should be. Thats the only way we have freedom, another thing! There is no forgivness for what they did on 9-11 there shall be no mercy to those who threaten freedom! Fuck Islam!
GonnaKillYou123 4 years ago
Well, America pretends to defend christian values, and as fa
LazyStouffe 4 years ago
Here we see our past,present and probable future as we are all branded 'terrorists' by those upholding 'freedom,justice,liberty' freedom for them to bomb,rape and terrorise,freedom from justice and at liberty to do as they see fit in ruining our world and our common humanity.
DaftAida 4 years ago 2
Well said Shane. The Divine Comedy are brilliant...
upstatelugh 4 years ago 2
Excellent song, Being a huge divine comedy fan I would say that! :)
I hate the hypocrisy of the American government. If any other country (or at least any country that's not important to American interests) detained Americans without any proof of wrong doing. They would probably join the Axis of evil.
Shane72 4 years ago 2
Yanks came late to both World Wars and sucked in as much as they could.Fair enough. Now they are empire building and are ignoring there father/mother lands wishes.Think USA, from whence do you spring? You are not native.
elmsclose 4 years ago 3
Meh.. who cares, they're just filthy ragheads. Let them rot for all I care.
guinness903 4 years ago
sad but true
aurelien747 4 years ago
A tragedy. A huge miscarriage of justice and ANYONE who supports this insidious evil should be ashamed.
We're treading in Hitler's footsteps.
wideheadofknowledge 4 years ago 4
I agree completly. there was another video on Guantanamo
i said something like you said and people where saying no terroists should be kept there.
jeffrytube 4 years ago
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I would rather have them locked up then on are streets they are terrorist u idiots.
WESTANDBEAST 4 years ago
who said they are terrorists? should we believe the biggest liars?
highsummer 4 years ago
What do you think the Nazis called the allies and the Jews to justify what they did?
johnnyguy12 4 years ago
I appreciate your compassion for fellow human beings, i really do. But its the mindless and spineless who repeat what you are saying and cant see the difference between innocent european jews in WW2 and facist terrorists in the GWOT.
FRIdayBOX52 4 years ago
The majority (majority=more than half) of the "facist terrorists" are innocent middle eastern muslims, captured and shipped for american dollars. Hopefully someone will go to prison for this. The GWOT is a brandname created by morons. Take 10 minutes to read this: google "if iran were america"
highsummer 4 years ago
In Nazi Germany they were told that the "innocent European Jews" were evil.
Today we are told that the "innocent Middle-Eastern Muslims" are evil.
Just because SOME people from a group do bad things does not make the entire group evil.
There are Americans who do horrible things, racism, lynchings, horrific gang beatings...should I hate all Americans because of the few?
No, that would be nonsense, yet you happily discriminate against an entire religion based on what the few did.
Fyndir 4 years ago 2
@FRIdayBOX52
I worry when I read that you have made a distinction between one set of people and another. We know that Menachim Begin was a terrorist. He wasn't an ''innocent Jew'' . He was a terrorist who murdered British soldiers. Some of whom had liberated death camps containing Jews.
Trouble with your view of the world is that it's pretty close to the Nazi view. There are those ''who deserve it'' and there are those who are ''innocent''. Murder and torture are unacceptable. Period.
cleverfeller 1 year ago 2
Why? whats your source saying they are liars? Your gut? the internet? The rest of youtube?
JTownSmith 4 years ago
Are u fucks forgetting these people in this or terrorist are expected ones.
WESTANDBEAST 4 years ago
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those stinkin arabs deserve it....we gotta put them somewhere!
patty31 4 years ago
u idiot there not arabs we have big deals with the stinking arabs u know nothing of anything i believe your opinion should be caged
96eternaldamnation96 4 years ago
I believe you need to learn English. People should be able to spell like a 5th grader before they're allowed to tell others that their opinion should be caged. btw QQ more. Im Antt-terroist.
JTownSmith 4 years ago
What a brilliant song, and such thoughtful lyrics. Perfectly sums up the way things are.
shahidsharif 4 years ago 3
I find a lot of the comments on here very interesting. I dont see how this song is anti American or even the video. Its pointing out a glaring error in the way the situation is handled and the fact its likely to come back and bite you...or in fact is biting you.
cornleius 4 years ago 2
I believe in LOVE,I believe in PEOPLE,not matter where they come from,I don't believe in leaders or politics,it's obvious they're absolute shit,most of the people in this OUR planet,want to live their lives in PEACE everyday,we all know that.Those who use violence,no matter where they come from are wrong,It's as simple as that and all the rest is a terrible lie.I can do nothing but send you all my LOVE.
Pidoda 4 years ago
USA get out of the rest of the world!! (Would be interesting to see how long they'd last without a bucket of tactical nukes...)
highsummer 4 years ago
No. Let us stay in the world. IT is ours now. And it will never be yours. And thats how it should be.
JTownSmith 4 years ago
I can't get out of the USA. It's everywhere!
almidonado 4 years ago
'war on terror' rings of newspeak, neil hannon is a great musician and lyricist check out eye of the needle or the beauty regime for further examples
reo1coker 4 years ago
I agree my friend,eye of the needle is a masterpiece,if only music could reach people's hearts like it touches ours...the world would be a whole lot better.Love.
Pidoda 4 years ago
Expose Bush. Expose Exxon. Expose Cheney. Expose Haliburton.
Urgent : exposeexxon dot com
grooveboy73 4 years ago
Ireland welcomes CIA torturers. Come and visit our airports. Bertie Ahern and Enda Kenny want your business.
irishissues 4 years ago
Brilliant
morpheous7 4 years ago
Most Americans are deeply ashamed of Bush and all of his toads. This song kind of brings it home. It's depressing. Sorry, it will change in 2009.
jdcapshew 4 years ago 2
BUSH hijo de puta coño de madre todos se pondran en tu contra y todo lo que has hecho a todas esas personas inocentes lo pagaras...viva chavez venezuela...
pinmeo 4 years ago
I think the argument on if Guantanamo is helping to reduce the threat of terror or not is irrelevant. What they are doing is wrong and un-American.
vitalymak 4 years ago
I found it unbeleivable that BUSH talked about iran NOT treating 15 british soildiers they took as per Geneva conventions!!! WTF is GITMO?? does he seriously beleive it complies with geneva conventions?? or "suspect renderings" to places where they can freely torture?? abu ghuraib must too be firmly within geneva conventions!! What the fuck is wrong with USA and its president??? the world is looising its respect for you....
gohoda 4 years ago
when americans quit the suck the worlds people blood, when?
cevizkabugu 4 years ago
Thanks for posting, highsummer.
JRotten9802 4 years ago
Some blame the media, but it's the Bush Administration who has allowed indefinite detainment, warrantless spying on American citizens, the systematic loosening of rules regarding interrogation, the black sites, the practice of extraordinary rendition, intentionally leaking a CIA agent's name to silence a critic, sending young men and women off to their deaths based on false information and pursuing a worthless strategy for years on end, while bodies continue to pile.
JRotten9802 4 years ago
When we blur the line between the actions of our government and the actions of the repressive regimes we seek to oppose, people like Osama Bin Laden get stronger. To quote David Bowie, we've been "putting out fire with gasoline". This the point Hannon is driving at. If we cannot play by the rules of our own legal justice system, then how can we claim any sort of moral high ground?
JRotten9802 4 years ago
Thousands have lost there lives over a threat that did not exist in a war marketed like a brand of soap. How many have been detained in GITMO for years and then freed without prosecution?
JRotten9802 4 years ago
EagleSeven1, I am quite certain that Jesus hates you.
JRotten9802 4 years ago 2
And don't tell me you like the US,and personaly I donb't give a rats ass what you or any other low bred ignorant foreigners think of us anyway! Our economy and growth out performs every country in the world! You're all a bunch of Jealous bastards!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Diplomatic words! I love a lot of things about Ameirka. What i don't like is the feeling of living in a giant unfinished shop, wheeling around in our gas-chugging trolleys. Not jealous of that at all.
highsummer 4 years ago
fuck BUSH AND HIM MOTHER AND HIM FATHER AND HIM SISTER AND HIM DOGTER ::D hey where ıs your bıg CIA I AM ISTANBUL :d AND FUNC ALL AMERIKASSSS
VANDETTA80 4 years ago
I feel soory for such a person who has so much hatred for so many people! You must be one of those "Peace Loving Muslims" Right?
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
And you are one of those "Peace Loving Christians"? Right?
owengood29 4 years ago 2
highsummer... I guess you would know! Your country, along with the other despot Marxist countries, has just come out of the "Dark Ages" Thanks to the USA you now experience a freedom your parents did not enjoy! The USA bankrupted the USSR which broke up the Soviet Union and their hold on Eastern Europe. I think you need to just be honest and stop this unfound hatred!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Hey, I love the US! Mark Twain, Bob Dylan, jazz, Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Kerouac, the blues, Tom Waits, Woody Allen, Looney Tunes, Vanilla Coke, the Camaro...but good things don't necessarily excuse historical crimes of the highest order.
highsummer 4 years ago
Ok explain the high crimes! This video is pure propaganda! Those who mistreated the P.O.W.s have been tried and convicted,dishonorably discharged etc! Sure crimes take place in war but to make it sound like it it a daily thing is unfounded! I served in Vietnam and saw thousands of hand tied victims of the communist!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Those who lied you into this war have not been tried. Everything related to that war is thus a crime. Those who machinated the Iran-Iraq war have not been tried. Why do Iraqis and Iranians hate the US? It's not all crazy Islam you know.
highsummer 4 years ago
What lies? You're a fool highsummer and the liar! All you know is what you hear on your "State Run TV" which is anti-Israel and America! I've been to your country and I know what you see on your TV's and see in the newspapers!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
So you speak Hungarian! Maybe you can tell me which tv channel is the state-owned one, and which is the Murdoch-owned one. Because I don't watch tv. Maybe you're watching too much over there. It's dangerous.
highsummer 4 years ago
I didn't say I spoke Hungarian! So whats your source for news then ? Communist blogs?
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Ohhh we quake in the boots of your economic growth statistics! I bet the underprivileged people of New Orleans were glad that they live in a country of such impressive growth statistics when they were dying, because the rich who control the White House are more interested in securing Iraqi oil than the well being of their own people.
titusgroan86 4 years ago
high crimes = prisoners of Guantanamo Military Prison are imprisoned without trial. Even if you could prove, EagleSeven, that the conduct inside the compound is entirely legal and humane, their insertion into it was not.
Plus it only fuels hatred of the United States and aggravates those that the US are trying to tranquilize.
owengood29 4 years ago
"A simple way to take a measure of a country is to look at how many people want in and want out"
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
#1 Jesus Christ
#2 The American G.I.
One died for your soul,the other for your freedom!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Ah, the opium of the mass-deluded. A bible in one and, a rag on a stick in the other. The Dark Ages are still with us.
highsummer 4 years ago
In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America, he said:
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
highsummer..Why don't you answer my question?
Please tell me what Hungry stands for?
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Until you check your atlas, I cannot anser? :-)
highsummer 4 years ago
highsummer...Are you aware that the United States is the only country in history that had the power to rule and conquer the world and did not because of our belief in freedom and liberty! In 1945 we had the "BOMB" And no one else did! If we wanted to, we could have ruled the world, but did we? No! You have no basis for your arguments! You're just Jealous!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Who is this mythical "we"? The Romans ruled the world too for a while. Being the best at industrialised savagery an empire makes. How jealous we post-colonials are/were/are...
highsummer 4 years ago
What's great about the USA is that we are a nation of nations united in Liberty and Freedom and have fought wars for that freedom! You people who hate the USA remember that we are you! For it was your people who came here! If Russia had been the sole victors in WWII I guarantee the world would be much different! We'd all be in bread lines! And if the United States should fall may God help the world!!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
The US has NEVER fought a war for freedom. I apologise for sounding extreme, but your simplistic schoolbook history really offends my delicate old european sensibilities. Your wars have all been for EXPANSION of the BUBBLE. (sorry for shouting...)
highsummer 4 years ago
Look highsummer, you're from Hungry right? Please tell me what Hungry stands for?
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Can you spell? A typical American view of the world.
highsummer 4 years ago
Yeah, yeah, and if France hadn't fought along with the Americans against the English during the 19th century...
BollywoodSkampy 4 years ago
BollywoodScampy... France's war against the English was not based on procuring American Liberty; it was a war against English expansion especially in North America! It was self serving! But we are grateful nevertheless!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
All wars are self-serving. And all wars are self-serving to a surprisingly small group of people, no matter how many farm-boys on both sides are blown to bits.
highsummer 4 years ago
And look at Russia and Hungry under Marxist Socialism the people are still in a daze! They've lived off the state for so long they can't even tie their shoes without government help!! They have had to steal ideas from the west! Look at their Space Shuttle and their Jets! They could be great nations again but I am afraid it will take years or they may yet fall back into the despotism of socialism!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Highsummer! Yea Europe is "Over Crowed and dirty! Bathrooms are filthy and people are rather rude compared to the States! Canadians and Americans have a much cleaner environment to live in and are much friendlier. If you don't like the "Big city you can drive for thousands of pristine miles North, East, West and South.
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Socialism is for lazy nations, lazy people and people who can't think for themselves! They have to have the government make decisions for them! They can't give to the poor themselves they have to have the government force it from them by taxes! Europe is near ruins because of socialism. Look at Russia!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Before welfare in America the churches helped the poor get back on their feet, and they were responsible to the churches. Today the government gives aide with no following up, they therefore many remain poor.
They have no incentive to get work when the government pays for everything while the main body of Americans works hard to support them.
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Most of the people who are poor in the US choose to be poor by dropping out of school, having babies out of wedlock and use drugs. Help should not be a lifetime of social welfare, but to help those truly in need!
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Yes, but Europe is just so much cooler than the US. Face the facts, my friend. More unemployment but better unemployment benefits too! Thank God for godless socialism...
highsummer 4 years ago
Who are you speaking too?
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
What's wrong with Socialism moilidiot ? Plenty!! Explain Social Justice? Socialism is Communism in Drag! It stifles creativity and the incentive to be more of what you could be! Socialism looks good on paper but doesn't work in real life. Look at all the Socialist Countries in the world and you will see that they are far behind the USA. Europe has a 9 to 12 % unemployment rate, compared to the 4.3% USA. And it takes 17 weeks to see a Medical specialist etc.
EagleSeven1 4 years ago
Christ, you're a nob.
Saternalius 4 years ago 2
what's wrong exactly with socialism, you morrons? the idea is social justice, the wealthier help the poorer. that's what taxes and public service are about. i don't have any problem with giving money to the state if it goes to people who struggle. Well maybe that's the difference between Europe and the USA...
moilidiot 5 years ago
Does anyone know where the song is comercially avaiable?
prl1973 5 years ago
Nowhere, I think. Maybe iTunes.
Kapselho 5 years ago
Last year( 2005/2006 ) Fox News was allowed to broadcast in Canada for the first time with tremendous opposition from the left! There is no "Free Speech" in Canada!
RURIGHT 5 years ago
HondaThivic If you've never been in combat wussy boy you have no business making such comments! You're ignorant and you wear Maple Leaf Panties!
RURIGHT 5 years ago
Well as any dimwitted asshole punk can see, rampant capitalism doesn't work without wars of conquest. Specifically Yankee wars of conquest. Mexico, Spain (Phillipines), Hawaii (ok, a coup), PROVOCATION of Japan (non one's an angel here), 40 years of your stupid cold war (the saints are coming!), and now the scary ragheads. The bubble must continually EXPAND...
highsummer 5 years ago
Russia didn't have the money or economy to fight Germany you dimwit! It was American Industry that defeated the AXIS in 1945 and it was the American Economy asso that Re-Built Western Europe and Japan while the East under Russia laid in ruins for 60 years!
It was CAPITALISM not Socialism you little Punk!!
RURIGHT 5 years ago
By the way I think Fox 'News' should be mainstreamed into everyone's home outside the US. Many people question me as to how can a nation so large be so gullible. If the rest of the world could see some of the state propoganda that's churned out there, they may understand a little better.
Paix!
highsummer 5 years ago
highsummer you don't have any logic! I have argued with Facts against everyone of your stupid comments!
I feel sorry for you!
RURIGHT 5 years ago
I have lived in the US, Canada, France, Ireland, and "Hungry" (as you comedically say, which was 'liberated' not by the yanks but by the russkies, thanks very much) and have got to the point in my life where I know which one of the above I would not like to raise my child in. And its got nothing to do with socialism, just LOGIC...
highsummer 5 years ago
Russia didn't have the money or economy to fight Germany you dimwit! It was American Industry that defeated the AXIS in 1945 and it was the American Economy asso that Re-Built Western Europe and Japan while the East under Russia laid in ruins for 60 years!
It was CAPITALISM not Socialism you little Punk!!
RURIGHT 5 years ago
Ah, that's why it's called capitalism... Because you write it in CAPITAL letters, right?!
Mabowle 4 years ago
This will be my last remarks on this topic. This Video is Propaganda! One day I hope the world will wake up to the Threat of Fascist Islam and their war against the West and the world! But I'm afraid it won't until it's too late. If a video as this can turn people against the country that has done more for the freedom and liberties of people around the world then I must conclude that all is lost!
Believe what you want and die in your ignorance and deception!
RURIGHT 5 years ago