m3e90board.com test of BMW M3 E92 DKG DCT Double Clutch 2/2

[TruAzn100]

this is my dream car! alpine white with black breyton rims!

[TheEire55]

I like how the parking sensor display on the screen kicks in as soon as he starts to reverse. Be a nice car to own but currently skint :(

[srgsoh]

i get my m3 convertable on monday. silverstone ll, black leather, loads of extras. £62000. so excited

[lpwbeasty]

u r one lucky guy lol. my dream is to get a white coupe with black leather, paddle shifter, 19" wheels. thats all id ask for. dream car!

[bulletproofprs]

question, is there a cluthch with dct?

[m5boarddotcom]

Double ones but you autmatically enabed.

[bulletproofprs]

i realize that, but is there a clutch pedal that you must depress for gear changes?

[luk212]

no, only 2 pedals, throttle and brakes

[mosquiton001]

like audi's S-tronic /DSG i suppose... it is confortable in traffic??

[weedo84]

dude, this question goes out to you if you've driven a double clutch m3...

for a manual gear shifter enthusiast do you recommend the new DCT transmission... cuz im having trouble deciding and the reason is I love the whole rugged style shifting... but is that worth sacrificing for the DCT double clutch?

thanks

[jamiewm3]

i changed my E46 M3 on 02/08 to an E92 DCT and is alot smoother changing gear now, the e46 jerked at low speeds whereas the e92 is so smooth in gear change and power.....and it looks the dogs bollox too.

[b0nes2]

I wish the paddles were on the collumn not on the steering wheel.

[m5boarddotcom]

Why?

See my review of the Scuderia: it had o nthe steerign column and that felt slightly confusing.

[b0nes2]

Well I would have to really test them to tell. If they are on the wheel, if you needed to downshift while in a curve, and your wheel is twisted, you might hit the wrong paddle.

But then again how often do you want to downshift or upshift in a tight turn. Here in the US I think you can only custom order the M3 with the DKG, all of the 2008's ive seen on Craigslist have been 6mt.

[karmahunden]

fist. if your steering wheel is so twisted is because u must be doing a u turn. on the track the steering wheel usually doesnt go pass 180 degrees, which is just fine to shift. in those situations if ever arise you can shift with the shifter (push it forth or backwards) or/and use the paddles too.

[MauriceHippmann]

@m5boarddotcom If you want to shift during a drift you might hit the wrong paddle

[scorpio1066]

another great clip with plenty of narrative along the way. im curious to know if there isnt any throttle blip on downshift - does this mean there is no rev/rpm matching? - my understanding is/was that rpm matching was better for gears (although syncros take care of much of this now days) but also rev matching (i thought) ment the engine rpm doesnt have to drop before it has climb again for the lower gear.

[m5boarddotcom]

Thank you. There is rev matching.

[gtinut]

Drove new DKG and shift are faster and less violent than SMG in M5/6.

It is much better design.

[m5boarddotcom]

True.

[b0nes2]

I hope BMW wiull get rid of SMG and go dual clutch on all M cars. SMG is old fashioned.

[JackNapier19]

Thanks for all your video Gustav, you seem to be very funny and very kind ;) regards from Paris

[patfromozZ]

Would you have the m3 manual or dkg???

[m5boarddotcom]

DKG.

[patfromozZ]

What colour combination would you have?

[rifo87]

Does it violently kick just like SMG II ? ... E46 M3s kick at gear changes, just like mine.

[yuds16]

how does does the shifting response until it actually shift? (on manual shifting)

[m5boarddotcom]

Fast...

[ZCP1364]

what are the lights for and are they for SMG shifting can you turn them off

[m5boarddotcom]

Shift lights in manual mode.

[ZCP1364]

Smg or manuel what happend if the shift is late and you dont listen to it

[m5boarddotcom]

You will hit the rev limiter.

[ZCP1364]

oh so you dont have to listen to it

[m5boarddotcom]

Listen to what?

[ZCP1364]

the lights

[chocola95]

is he doin the down shift blip incousciously at 4:37? could it be only is phase of deceleration that the downshifts blip? this is kinda disapointing if it doesnt...

[m5boarddotcom]

Throttle blip s there at S5 and if you keep the pedal more dpressed during the downshift it does a louder blip.

[chocola95]

But in the video then why when he tries to do it, it doenst blip?! it actually looks like an auto/tiptronic downshift!?

[pedramsc430]

I think the drive is fucking retard

[m5boarddotcom]

Excuse me? Can you elaborate?

[rabidbigdog]

Hi Gustav, Thanks for the video. How much is known about the origin of this gearbox? Is it an internal BMW project or sourced? Do we know if it is the same gearbox as the new Nissan GTR?

[m5boarddotcom]

Thank you for your thank you ;) It is manufactured by Getrag and I beleive it can be found on Getrag's own homepage.

[rabidbigdog]

Thanks for the pointer. If it's the Getrag 7DCI600 (71kg), then it's 8Kg lighter than SMG3. The Nissan GTR appears to use a Nissan/BorgWarner design. We're looking forward to an M3 DCT vs Nissan GTR GTboard video! :)

[m5boarddotcom]

SUre ;) Did you notice that the GTboard DVDII is released? With over 70 races :D

[ah8425]

Will they re-launch the E60 with this Gearbox? There's only 1 thing about this Gearbox though, it doesn't have the same Downshift Grunt as the SMG3. It's nice to frighton the life out of people on the sidewalk.

[nassimnajjar]

just listen to the beautiful engine im addicted to that car i cant get off the M3 Challenge game BMW made to torture M3 lovers lol

[m5boarddotcom]

:D

Hartge aftermarket exhaust.

[BI2016]

The question is then whether DCT is as fun to drive? and the true drivers option?

[m5boarddotcom]

To get the best laptimes DCT is the choise. But also for straight line dricing, since 7 gears are in closer ration than 6-gears and thus give you a better acceleration.

[nassimnajjar]

i cannot agree more

[DjaliKrajes]

No and no.

[m5boarddotcom]

Sorry?

[BI2016]

Gustav, did you prefer the DCT to the conventional H-pattern?

[m5boarddotcom]

The DCT is so much faster ao I prefeer that. You also have the hands on the steering wheel at all times.

[josieginey]

Is there a noticable difference in accelleration of this DKG and the standard manual car? Does it pin you back any harder or the same, just with 0 change time?

[m5boarddotcom]

Not pitcable in terms of acceleration in gear but definetly when shifting gears and thus hte whole accelerationrpocess, obviously.

It would be very hard to FEEL the acceleration differnece in gear, but it is crtainly there in a say 30 to 150 mph sprint.

[911gt333]

id like to see fast start whith this thing

[m5boarddotcom]

Yes, Launch Control wasnt used since the car was new.

[911gt333]

I hope you show it!) Thank you Gustav for all that vids!

[m5boarddotcom]

No problems :)

[m5boarddotcom]

No problems :)

[e92m3fan]

does the us ver take off the launch control just like they did to the e46?

[m5boarddotcom]

They might do it a bit milder, I do not know that.

[voordeeldrogist]

strange feeling when you dont feel the shifts anymore, huh?

[m5boarddotcom]

Yes, indeed. But very refined. If you want feedback choose S5.

[8MunchenBayern8]

I like the SMG system on M5/M6 better...more fun.

[m5boarddotcom]

Try the DKG first :)

[m5boarddotcom]

Try the DKG first :)

[spanishprisoner]

this makes me want!

[m5boarddotcom]

Me too :)

[ZafZap]

take it easy gustav! :)

[m5boarddotcom]

Haha I know :D

[nofear24t]

BMW did a great job with the new M3. It is such a amazing car

[m5boarddotcom]

It is a very good car and with the DSG it's very very good.

[miladjuckel]

how fast are the shift times?

smg3 can shift at about 65 millisecond, this should shift much quicker, right?

[m5boarddotcom]

Yes.

[eyepatchentertainmen]

hahaha not my car! classic

[SpeedKlz]

Owner of the M3 was cr*pping his pants. "Take it easy!!!" ROFL!

[Tris1]

"Take it easy, Gustav" Hahaha! Your reviews never disappoint me since you always drive the "Ultimate Driving Machine" to, or maybe even past, its limits.

It almost seems like the M3 is even more responsive with the dual-clutch clutch gearbox than with the normal 6 speed gearbox.

[m5boarddotcom]

Thanks :) Yes, the M3 with DCT is a very responsive iand fine instrument of driving :)