Joe Nichols - Believers

[kidbatman01]

I love Joe nichols!!!!! This is my vavorite song out of all the songs in the world and im only 10

!!!!!!

[BubbleBailey1]

This song is so pure and true it's real music and gives people strength and faith i love this song it made me believe again...

[BubbleBailey1]

God only knows where we'd be without believers

[MARGARITAPRICE]

i loveee girlicious but chrys does irritate me sometimes cos she trys to improvise every thing..

[SouthSweetTea]

I am prould to say I believe in God. I'll be happy if I never had kids or a able to keep steady job because I'll know God's love.

[1121Courtney]

You guys stop fighting, this song is about believeing in yourself and the world around you. Not God.

Just enjoy the music, and stop over analyzing everything.

[26515400]

@1121Courtney Well said. That's correct I believe the song about believe in yourself....

[AJBluesman]

Beautiful !! Praise Our Great Lord Jesus Christ ! Joe Nichols must sing more gospel songs and cut more albums for God's glory !

[hof8171]

I love this song its the only country song that ever made me cry it reminds me of home, my parents, my former life.

[jagball22]

secret jesus - watch video at jagball22

[samghost1]

Thank u joe for listening to me and yes your father is at home now and that is between u and me ! jesus

[Natlovescountry]

I Love  you as a singer ,your so taleneted .....God bless you and thanks for sharing your gift.

[trentbenedict]

This song is to My son TrentMan..............I believe and i will Forever..........you are my life my son my Soul!!!!!

[Phil498]

what made me believe is my little brother,when he was born,he couldn't walk or talk,the doctor said the he would live only 8 months,he lived for 8 years and he past away on Februay 1,2009.i was 7

[83FoxRacer]

I love this song, (:

Hahaha !

He's beastly, (:

So is the songg !

[jigsawpuzzle67]

Believers

[SweetnNuttyOne]

I just love this song, and find myself singing it any point and time of day. God loves us all! Have faith and believe!

[SuperUndertaker2000]

Earth wouldnt be good without believers

[canaengle]

Im one of those believers that you are singing about. This song touches my heart. I wish everyone could feel the joy in my heart.

[lindalovesal]

GREAT SONG LOVE IT

[rendermebreathless]

he has a really nice, natural voice!

i've got shivers :]

[tutu2u]

I heard this on the radio and thought it was Randy Travis!

[GobeiDrew]

don't matter what you believe in as long as you believe, great song

-Gobei

[needs2besaid]

Actually, it does matter.

[LilMissMo218]

If Joe's a Christian (and he is) then I don't think that he would sing about it being okay to be any religion, because that kind of goes against Christianity?? haha, just saying a point, so let's not get another argument going.

:)

[nelsonsb2]

Man....I always hate when country artists that I otherwise enjoy sing about Jesus. Screw this. Time for some Pat Green...

[Jesusrocks227]

Well you want to know my opinion, I think that it is great for him to write a song like this because he is a COUNTRY singer and has an EXCELLENT voice. You might not agree with me and that is FINE but you really need to think about this. It is AMAZING that a COUNTRY singer would take his time and write a CHRISTIAN song for us to hear wherever we go!!!! I am under the age of 12 and I admire a man who is not ashamed of Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[unsaneLunachick21]

im actually pretty sure that he didnt write this song. sorry. i dont really see where this is a christian song either.

[LilMissMo218]

Wow, I'm amazed at how strong your faith is. I totally agree with everything you say!! I love the Lord and I think he's smiling down on you for witnessing to him on youtube! :) If only some adults could be as faithful as you. God bless you, and keep believin!!

[Jesusrocks227]

THANK you so much for understanding!!!! I am glad they have people like you in our world!!!!

[singlecountrygirl]

This is my song i went to see Joe on the 18th of September and my boyfriend and i had not spoken all day he was just not talking to me so as soon as i put on my Joe Nicholes Belivers braclet he textes me so this our song

[tann32]

i believer that you dont have to attend to go to church BUT if you do believe then it makes you wanna go and learn more about God so you can preach it to other people who don't believe or needs more understanding!

[DjBounce60]

Incredible new song. I love it going to buy the info so I can play it on my guitar at our church bravo

[tann32]

this song is seriously the best song i've heard in a longggg time! All I listen to is country and this song has touched me more and harder than any other song! :) no matter what, never give up.. god will always be by your side! :) terrific song.<3

[quentinm1995]

i know aint it '

[Amburrlovesyouu]

omgg.

i love this sonng soo!!! muchh

its greattt

[MsAmberrrNicole]

my chorus is singing this song. :D I love it sooo sooo much. it's one of those songs that gives u shivers up ur back and makes u smile.

[thettmack04]

The first time I heard it and still do I got a shiver in my back.... then smiled :)

[DuckzAndDogz]

My pastor was just preaching on this and when my mom and I were heading home this started to play :) It was amazing and I looked at my mom and I said. Pastor was just talking about this. And so I emailed it to my pastor and he loved the song and said he would play it this sunday :)

[HimeSkipperDoodle]

In my opinion, you don't have to be religious to be a believer... I am Wiccan, my boyfriend is Atheist, my mom is more of a spiritual being and we are all Believers... Just in our own ways and in different things. I am especially fond of the part about the young couple who knew all along that they'd make it... That's me and my boyfriend, going strong. I'm a Believer. ^.^

[hh2hh0]

its true my dads a jw but he doesnt bother me about it cause he believes the same thing u dont have to attend church to believe but its better in his oppinion

[justinwatkins2002]

i dont beileve but i agree the base point for chruch in my opion is as old as time it self money they pass that plate around everytime the doors are open.. but i mat be wrong....... great song though

[hh2hh0]

your right

[JesusFreak77538]

this song speaks the truth=)

[johnalanhale5]

guys in the end only god and our lord jesus know those statistics ok

[hxcadam78148]

he dosent open his eyes much wen he sings this

[amosisbeast]

a great song. one of my favorite for sure

[LuckyxNumberx13]

One of the songs that gives me chills and tear up. Beautiful and true.

[ErikWyx]

Wow!

I heard this for the first time on the local country station today.

That's a strong song! It makes me think of Jennifer Knapp's "Martyrs and Thieves" for some reason.

Good song!

[Rachel54476]

ok...im sorry...but people...please dont ruin this song by fighting...this is a really good and strong song...people should believe and never give up

[UbberCat]

FOR PETES SAKE!!! Will you knock it off. Bricology, if you are looking for fights on the internet, go somewhere else! and Dragknuckle, thank you for being the bigger man here! I applaud you for stopping this out of place and horribly long debate.

[jesusisgrand]

I think that this will win gramys. and will go to number one spot easy!!

[JesusFreak77538]

your so right

[tacotacosauce1]

thank you! someone who isn't interested in being "right" in an internet conversation with someone you don't know nor do you care about

finally :)

[nsemione]

How about both of stop bickering and start listening cause we probably all like the music so lets listen.

[spursrock2121]

great song.

[dragknuckle]

Logically, a moral law assumes a personal moral authority. In order to have any weight, such authority would have to be morally perfect, and completely objective.

Whom do you know who fits that bill?

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- you're throwing quite a bit of pseudo-philosophy into the mix.

Care to define "moral law"? I'll bet that Jesus won't fit it. He wasn't "morally perfect" (having a temper tantrum in the temple? -cursing a fig tree that did him no harm? -infecting a herd of innocent pigs with "demons"? -telling people to discard their families? -saying "I come not to bring peace, but a sword"?), nor was he "completely objective" (claims of mystical afterlifes seldom are).

[UbberCat]

you are totally right tacotacosauce!

[tacotacosauce1]

oh, and don't try and twist my words by saying "if you don't care, why r u commenting" cause i am doing what everyone else is doing, voicing my opinion. The only difference is that i'm not forcing anything like religious beliefs onto anyone

[tacotacosauce1]

I think everyone on here is right. the 1st verse of the song says "Till somebody listens, till something's changed". Obviously this is what many people on here are trying to do, say what they want until someone gives up and gives in to whatever that person wants them to think. it doesn't matter what people are talking about ( religion, race, sexuality) but calling people bitch and things like that when people voice opinions isn't the right way to handle it.

oh, just my opinion

[Hogfan84]

why do yhall idiots argue about releigion and everything on here..just listen to the freakin song dude

[bwfandk]

Oh joe...Still love him after 10 yrs..what a voice!! Joe's a real crooner!!

[UbberCat]

I dont know what you guys are fighting about but this probably not the place to do it. I don't want you guys to come after me so I'm not going to take sides. I will just leave you with this parting thought. "Can we agree to disagree" please!

[justonekissgoodnight]

Amen!

[RobLow41]

Send this video to an atheist freind i did

[Rachel54476]

for a music video for this song would be a video tape from the March for Life in washington DC...i went to that and this would be an awsome song for that event...we believe!

[appletree37]

Thank-You for trusting

[imhorses]

I love this song!! It's beautiful. I love it!!

Sometimes you have to push away everything you know and just believe. Even if you're wrong, atleast you stand for something.

[bricology]

"Sometimes you have to push away everything you know and just believe."

Pushing away everything you know sounds like very bad advice to me. Would you like it if the pilot of the plane you were flying in suddenly decided to push away everything he knew about the science of aerodynamics and just believed that he could fly via will power?

" Even if you're wrong, atleast you stand for something."

The Nazis stood for something. The Bolsheviks stood for something. Was what they stood for *right*?

[imhorses]

Ok Mr. Cantankerous.

1st I was thinking of what if somebody was diagnosed with cancer. Yes they may die but they have to push that away and believe that theyre going to get better, even though everything might be against them.

And ya know what, no the Nazis and Bolsheviks weren't right. I never said that you had to be right hence the "even if you're wrong" part. But they stood for what they believed in and atleast they had inevitableness.

[bricology]

imhorses -- There are two very significant differences between your hypothetical person with cancer, and others who believe and act on that belief, despite its divergence from reality.

First, the mind has a certain amount of influence over the body, so believing in ones recovery may contribute to it. Second, no one else is likely to be harmed by such a belief.

How about religious belief? Any danger of harm there? Ask the families of the 3,000 people murdered by devout believers, on 9/11.

[imhorses]

I quote "the mind has a certain amount of influence over the body." EXACTLY!!! thats what i was saying!!! you just have to believe!

i never said it should hurt anybody... if it hurts others, yes, i think its wrong. Life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. As long as you're not breaking laws or hurting others, youre free to do as you wish.

However, believing that something good will happen is perfectly acceptable.

please read this twice so you don't make the same foolish mix up.

[bricology]

imhorses -- you're still conflating two very different things. One is an *individual*, *unique* belief ("I am beating the cancer"); the other is a *collective*, *received* belief ("praise the lord and pass the ammunition, god is on our side!" or "allahu akbar!"). Yes, the former is potentially benign, but the latter is almost always pernicious. Your mistake is to claim that _any_ belief is good. If that were true, the history of religious belief would be a peaceful one. Has it been?

[dragknuckle]

The highest death toll of any ideological movements is the 100 million killed by atheist maxists in the 20th Century.

I do not put this forth to say "atheists kill more people than the religious", but rather to suggest that even when religion is removed from the equation people still commit atrocities.

Perhaps religion is not the causal factor.

Ultimately, if there is no God, who's to say that mass murder is "wrong" anyway? If life is an accident, taking it away has no real meaning.

[bricology]

dragknuckle:

1. The only reason that Marxist regimes have managed to kill more people than say, the Crusaders or the Conquistadors is due to the leveraging effect of modern technology.

2. Marxism simply replaced the indigenous religions; it was a functioning religion of its own with saints and martyrs, orthodoxies, articles of faith and all of the other trappings of religions. Stalin and Mao would never have succeeded to the degree they did without tapping into the public's religious fervor.

[dragknuckle]

You seem quite religious in your anti-religious proselitizing.

[bricology]

@ dragknuckles -- What a pathetic (if expected) claim.

Here, you try it on:

"You seem quite religious in your anti-anti-religious proselytizing".

I'll bet you're really burning from that insightful put-down! (rolleyes)

And extra points for misusing "proselytizing", which I was in no way doing. Proselytizing is the province of theists. Last time I checked, we weren't holding revivals or forcing conversions at the point of a sword.

[dragknuckle]

Proselytizing can have more than one meaning, it does not necessarily involve the sword, it can simply be done with scorn, or even argument.

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- "proselytizing" with scorn or argument?! That's a new one. And how, pray tell, could scorn "induce someone to espouse one's doctrine" (O.E.D.)? I have never read or heard an atheist trying to induce anyone to espouse their "doctrine". Indeed, the absence of something (a belief in gods, the definition of atheism) hardly constitutes a "doctrine", nor lends itself to collecting converts. OTOH, proselytizing is obviously a function of most religions.

[bricology]

dragknuckle:

3. If there's no god, who's to say that mass murder is wrong? You should ask that question in the places on earth where murder is the least common (NW Europe, Japan, etc.) Coincidentally, those are the most secular nations. Why would the Japanese be so peaceful for the past 3 generations? It's got nothing to do with a god; most Japanese are nominally Shinto and Buddhist, neither of which has "gods" like Yahweh supposedly is. So if they're so secular, why such a low murder rate?

[dragknuckle]

The US states with the highest rates of sexual assaults also have the highest rate of subscriptions to "Field and Stream". Does "Field and Stream" cause rape?

[bricology]

@ dragknuckle --

Nice prevarication, there.

You suggested that mass murder is something that religious belief somehow prevents. I pointed out the obvious error of that claim -- that the first-world nations that are *least* religious also have the lowest incidence of murder. Could you be bothered to try and refute that? Nope; not when you could try an evasion tactic like "Field & Stream".

PATHETIC.

[dragknuckle]

I did NOT assert that religion prevents mass murder. Now who is using strawman arguments?

I said that atheist regimes DID commit mass murder, and suggested that the cause of such events may not be related to religion or the lack thereof. Read my original post again.

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- You didn't assert that religion prevents mass murder? Except that you did:

"Ultimately, if there is no God, who's to say that mass murder is 'wrong'?"

Now let's watch you prevaricate, accusing me of conflating "god" and "religion". But of course, the only place where gods can supposedly have any preventative effect against mass murder would be through religions, since it's impossible for a populace to have identical gnostic "spiritual" experiences.

[dragknuckle]

The "Field and Stream" stat is the classic example demonstrating that correlation does not prove causality.

You have not demonstrated that Christian Americans are the ones driving up the drug abuse, crime, and murder rates.

But in the end you are spending a lot of time rebutting things I haven't claimed, and generally insulting me for no reason.

[bricology]

I haven't demonstrated that Christian Americans are driving up the drug abuse, crime and murder rates? Well, here's some evidence that they are: Christian Americans are more likely to divorce than non-theist Americans. And prison inmates in America are overwhelmingly more likely to identify themselves as Christians than non-theists (about 80% vs .2%). Proof? No, but highly suggestive. And it's very common for supposed Christians (like George W. Bush) behave in an utterly un-Christ-like manner.

[dragknuckle]

Given that your tone is condescending, demeaning, and rude, I shall cease debate with you.

You can tell yourself that you won if it makes you feel better, but I really don't think that this is an intellectual discussion as much as a desire on your part to belittle those who disagree with you.

I won't play anymore, and you are blocked.

[bricology]

Cut and run, chum -- cut and run.

[HowardOfOz3565]

That's hardly a viable statistic: That inmates identify themselves as "christian" There are no atheists in foxholes either....

[bricology]

Nonsense; those statistics are totally believable. In fact, they're almost exactly in line with the larger statistic of 76.9% of Americans surveyed, who profess to be Christians. And BOTH of those studies were done by the Christian pollster George Barna.

"No atheists in foxholes"? More nonsense. Some soldiers become more devout, but a huge number (especially in WWI) lose any faith they had in a war where it appeared to them that no god could possibly exist where such suffering existed.

[dragknuckle]

I am going to restate my argument, since it seems to be unclear to you.

A thing which is made can be made with a meaning. A thing which is a product of chance does not posses a meaning. Meaning can be superficial imposed, but it has no meaning by itself. And any meaning will do, there can be no "right" meaning.

Every social system ever created by Man has committed atrocities, regardless of whether it is theistic or atheistic. Since it is part of Man's heritage, why is it wrong?

[bricology]

dragknuckle --

Define "meaning". Define "chance".

A thing can also be made which has NO "meaning" (a blank canvas, for example). Things can be made by humans that have internally contradictory "meaning" (like religions). Humans are capable of assigning "meaning" irrationally (dreams, the I-Ching, etc.). Things can be made by agencies *other* than humans that can be perceived as having "meaning" (crystals, omens, etc.). So your "meaning" tangent is of little use here.

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- Man has committed atrocities *outside* of social systems as well, so atrocities are not a subset of social systems, nor their inevitable product.

I pointed out that the first-world nations that are the most religiously devout are also the least war-like and commit the least crime, whereas the most religiously devout (i.e., the US) is the most warlike and has the most crime. These are simple facts, but I can see how they would make theists uncomfortable.

[bricology]

dragknuckle:

4. If life is an accident, how can it have any real meaning? Well, does the life of your cat or dog have any meaning? I'll bet you think it's life does; it plays, gives and receives affection, enjoys its food, it enriches *your* life, etc. But since it's not going to have an afterlife, why bother letting it live? Why not just fix all animals and be done with their meaningless lives?

[dragknuckle]

Indeed, why not? Do you have a reason why life should continue, beyond your own selfishness?

I do.

[bricology]

dragknuckle --

If selfishness is anyone's motivation, its with those who hope that their faith or actions will curry the favor of some deity who will reward them with eternal life, streets of gold and 72 perpetual virgins. Those of us without faith merely do good out of goodness, not for any ulterior motive.

My reasons for my own life to continue are numerous, abiding and persuasive. Many of them probably overlap with your own. A bonus is that I entirely own my own life; I owe no one for it.

[dragknuckle]

Hold on, I was not calling you selfish. You are probably no more selfish than I.

I was questioning why life is inherently good, if it was just the product of cosmic chance. Ultimately, the only reasons you can give me to think that a thing is "good" or "bad" is some form of self-interest.

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- you wrote "do you have a reason why life should continue, beyond your own selfishness? I do."

Perhaps *you* should go back and re-read your own posts.

And "self-interest" is NOT the only reason "to think that a thing is good or bad". I suggest you take a class in beginning moral philosophy before making such a claim. We even have many documented cases of trans-species altruism amongst non-human animal species which prove that notion wrong.

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- furthermore, that raises an interesting question. Does all of the meaning in *your* life come from a belief in some supernatural "meaning"? I'll bet it doesn't. The people who feel that way tend to be like Buddhist or Catholic monks, and other ascetics. They eschew possessions, careers, romantic relationships and all of the other pleasures of life, because they truly believe that this life is all about suffering, and that the next life is the only one worth pursuing.

[dragknuckle]

I am saying that accidental things do not have inherent meaning. If there is no God, my perception that there is one does NOT give my life meaning, it gives me the illusion of meaning.

Inherent meaning can only come from design, logically.

Your fervent belief that we would have a happier world without religion is ultimately a statement of faith.

[bricology]

dragknuckle --

Inherent meaning in grammar can only come from participles, not dangling.

I don't have a "fervent belief" in anything; you can stop trying to put words in my mouth.

However, it is incontrovertible that the "happiest places in the (first) world" are also those with the least religious belief. The US, for being the most religiously fervent first-world nation, also has the highest crime, drug use, divorce, and a host of other damning demographic markers. Explain.

[bricology]

dragknuckle --

Who said anything about "accidental things", anyway? Neither I nor any scientist would claim that our existence was "accidental"; that's a theistic strawman.

"Meaning" is not dependent upon "design". People are quite capable of finding meaning in coincidences, in dreams, the I-Ching, in nature, in being surprised, and in a host of other things that were not "designed" to have "meaning".

[dragknuckle]

INHERENT meaning is dependent upon design. Otherwise any meaning attributed is entirely subjective.

BTW, it is not a straw man. Either something has an intelligent cause, or it is an accident, by definition.

[bricology]

dragknuckle -- something either has an intelligent cause or is an accident? Utter rubbish. Clearly, you don't know much about the natural world. Where, for examples is the "intelligent cause" in regular, predictable formation of crystals?

Your strawman is in claiming that "If life is an accident...", whose supposed results you then dismiss with "taking it away has no real meaning." You are setting up a proposition that no atheist would propose, and then dismantling it.

Straw. Man.

[jimAKAscooterturtle]

Yess you are free to do what you wish, but hat doesn't make what you do right.

[imhorses]

So I have a question for you, do you like to go around and pick fights on the internet over the stupidest things?? Cause sweetie, this is really dumb.

[bricology]

imhorses -- first, drop the condescending, familiar tone ("sweetie").

Second, I recognize the difference between debate and "picking fights". Apparently, you don't.

Third, while I agree that religion is one of "the stupidest things", it is also one of the most dangerous. How many people would've died on 9/11 if others didn't fervently believe in the fairy tales of Islam? How many innocent people would've died in the Inquisition if others didn't believe in the fairy tales of Christianity?

[imhorses]

Ok, hun. I never said religion was stupid. Learn to read and stop bending my words to what you think. I dont care about what you think about religion... or anything to be honest.

And no history hasnt been peaceful, because people believed so strongly in their cause or religion or whatever. Like MLK.

Dont get me started about the Islamic people. to be honest you have no idea what this war is like for families and you have no idea what it was like to loose somebody in those towers....

[bricology]

imhorses: well chickie (since you're determined to use patronizing names), I know that you didn't intend to say that religion is stupid, but you accused me of pick(ing)? fights...over the stupidest things, and the very thing we we're discussing was religion.

History hasn't been peaceful because people believed so strongly in their cause...like MLK? Huh? MLK's actions weren't peaceful? I suggest you go read about the Civil Rights Movement. Lots of belief; relatively little violence.

[imhorses]

Ok kiddo, I'm sick of "debating" with you. I don't even know what the hell we're "debating" over. This isn't about religion or history or anything like that...

Just stop, listen to the damn song and enjoy the music.

[babymam2007]

I was just at one of his concerts! I loved it when he sang this song but half way through this song the sound went out! haha well he got all of the guitar and backstage singers to the front center of the stage as close to the audience as possible...i was front and center...he quieted the croud and started saranting us...no voice cangers no electronics just him, his voice, and the guitars...thats how you know he is a real singer...he can sing without the electronics unlike most singers

[kjturtlederby]

we need more in this world.I'm a believer.

[JesusFreak77538]

I love this song:)jus keep bein a beliver=)(=

[countrygirl1514]

I love this song and I love GOD.

[truesonoftheone]

go Joe! if you like joe, then you will love the new band dweenal

[revjudah]

faith that moves the mountains of doubt, being persistant, and along with God, holding the enemy in derision, laughing at fear.

[Surfi2006]

That's a great song John... thanks for sharing it with me... :) The lyrics are awesome. Diana :)

[I8hell]

this song is true (to a certain degree) because there are people who believe And I'm one of am!!

[LilMissMo218]

Can I ask what you mean about to a certain degree? (Just curious)

[amthecountrygirl]

AMAZING! Thank you for posting!

[sammieloulogan]

HE ALWAYS IS!!!!

[nicholstxfan]

INCREDIBLE!!!