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  • jesse just needs to dropkick some truth into this guy

  • Funny how he says "bockks cutters"

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  • Jesse is just a babbling idiot these days

  • this gueek attacking jessee lol ,makes points based on assumption and tries to pass them off as fact. typical sheepple

  • Gotta love Jesse!

  • Anyone who does not believe 9/11 was an inside job has not done the research. Those that have done the research and still don't believe it was has personal issues related to fear and feelings of betrayal they must work through in their own heads that fog their own better judgement. The FACTS are there people.

  • that radio host talk in really annoying way

  • It's more like they attacked him for being an idiot.

  • Y was thermitic residue found in the dust & debris!?!? Thermite was used to take down those buildings, do ur research!

    Too many people involved to keep it quiet!?!? The Manhattan Project (creating the atom bomb!) had over 100,000 people for over 10 years & nobody knew about it, so think again!!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE, B4 IT'S TOO LATE!

  • Jesse Ventura for Earth's president.

  • he always rocks back and forth when agitated

  • @nanarockband and usually crosses the arms haha

  • I don't believe for a second that 9/11 was an inside job, I do believe there was a massive failure of intelligence, and security on that day.

  • at around 4:40 ish he says like "they cant even keep a secret of sex..." yes mr. idiot, you just blew the cover. you do only report these created sex scandals so you can feed the sheep.

  • @br0dskalk jesus... you have got to be kidding me... prove it then!

  • @brentduncan18 why would i waste my time to "kid" you?

    you might not be that good when it comes to deductive reasoning. I suggest you read a crime novel and learn the basics of this method of thinking. Old Sherlock Holmes books especially.

    The sheer volume of "news articles" that focuses not on case but on person or sex, is insane. They have changed the game completely.

    Get a perspective from the outside of your country. the US is a controlled public through massive use of propaganda in MSM.

  • @br0dskalk Your the same as him.. I bet if you asked me what time it was and I told you it was 9am and it actually was, I bet you would some shit like "how do we really know that? who programed the clocks? the government has lied to me before blah blah blah." I'm not here saying media is always right, but my god.. if the media tells me someone was hit by a car on main street and killed, am I supposed to question that too? Is that a propaganda to take my mind off another issue as well?

  • @brentduncan18 I really, really dont care about you at all. if your only arguments are ad-hominum attacks and hypothetical arguments, then that shows what you base yourself on.

    You probably dont get why f.ex the OWS demonstrations where ignored in MSM for weeks?

    Why would you write "im not saying media is always right" and then abuse my statement to say media is always wrong. And yes, they use murders to scare you as well.

    In propaganda, if the information is true or not, does not matter.

  • @br0dskalk Media is not always right...That is a fact. My point is use common sense... If media reports a child is missing is that a cover up as well? Am I supposed to question EVERY FUCKING THING THEY THROW OUT THERE? Are you saying media didn't cover OWS AT ALL for the first 2 weeks? Look at the facts! It wasn't as big as it is today! Its larger now because a bunch of hippie ass holes found out they can come camp out and get free shit while trying to protest the "man." this = more attention

  • @brentduncan18 until you can stop twisting my words and discuss like a normal person, then we are through. I hope your life is not as shallow as your understanding of social engineering, politics in general, propaganda and how mass media works.

    People will not discuss with you when you make wild assumptions out of clear statements.

    Stop wasting my time on subjects you clearly know nothing about.

  • @br0dskalk So if I am twisting your words, explain!

  • interviewer at around 6.46.. How or better asked why...

    Answer : The buildings had to be renovated, thats so taking them down and (now) building a new one is cheaper, plus it was perfect for the whole show! also the reason why it was planes and not trucks to "blow" the buildings is that they now control your airports why harder, and thats the reason they tell you.

  • Were trying to save the world for these prick ass mother fuckers???

  • Does this guy seriously think the term "Stand Down" came from the movie JFK? Um... this is a military term that goes back for generations.

    Not siding with the conspiracy theorists, just pointing out that this is a stupid and weak argument.

  • the guys talking to Jesse are so fucking IDIOTS and faggots

  • The one doing the interview is a little girl who just lost her favorite doll. FAGGOT!!!!!

  • Interviewer is a government puppet. Arguing with Jesse like he has an education . Shut your mouth and listen you little prick. Jesse has been there , done that and wiped his dick with little goof's like you.

  • @Tricky0471 Jesse sure likes to talk about how he's been there and done that, even though he admitted in 1999 that he was full of it. Anyone who belives anything Jesse Ventura has to say is a pathetic moron, incapable of thinking for himself

  • That interviewer is a screaming controlled media pussy! How dare him raise his voice at Jesse!

  • What a screaming little bitch, hope this cunt got fired.

  • they should fire this radio host

  • jew mossad agents truck bomb 911 look it up

  • It hasnt been kept quiet idiots...

  • The radio host is annoying as fuck. Somebody fire this prick! I wish this jock got killed during 9/11. Jesse Ventura was in the military and a former governor. I'm sure he knows what our government is capable of doing more than we do.

  • the terrorists weren't taking orders from a bearded man hiding in a cave, it was from a bearded man hiding in a compound in Pakistan, our 'ally'

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  • theres nothing worse than someone who doesn't want to listen to reason and just yells their opinion to protect their ego from being hurt when proved wrong or can't answer a question (host). Trouble is, most of America and indeed the world are EXACTLY like this idiot. Ignorance is bliss for these hypocritical parasites.

  • "Because they control the newspapers, the magazines, the radio, the television, the book publishing business, and because they have the ministers in the pulpit and the politicians on the soapboxes talking the same language, it is not too surprising that you believe that lie. You'd believe black is white if you heard it often enough. You wouldn't call black black anymore....you'd start to call black white. And nobody could blame you."

    -- Benjamin Freedman (Jew convert to Christianity)

  • The US spends a billion dollars a day on air defense, yet four planes fly off course for over an hour without being intercepted. Check Mate Game over.

    911 was allowed to happen.

  • this interviewer SUUUUUXXXXXXX

  • lol i dont know how people who listened to this around there building an not catch this little weasel walking out the door an beating the shit out of him he thinks to much that our government is that smart in just eliminating the fact that its easy for a conspiracy cover up give me a fucking break, common sense? there are over 50 different evidential proof of just possibilities alone that contradict what happen that day besides the hard facts of proof being that it was a inside job

  • @bigwaverider1000 sooo.... There is proof of possibilities? awesome, that means absolutely nothing

  • I don't understand why people get so mad for questioning anything? I'll question anything, that deserves to be questioned. Especially in this greedy country we now live in.

  • He's right, the airliners should have been taken down by jet fighters, instead the government waited for the worst. The decision to take down those planes should have been inmediate.

    No brainer, the government let it happen.

  • You want to talk about the path of least resistance why would the buildings fall through the path a greatest resistance? The interviewer is a moron. More "I don't know". You can tell that Jesse wants to kick the crap out of the guy.

  • Funny how they ask "how would you keep such a massive conspiracy quiet" while at the same time shouting his dissension down and making out like he's a crackpot.

    Newsflash idiots, he's TRYING to stop it from being kept quiet! xD

  • The eye witness to flight 93 going down is now the director of lockheed martin. HMMM.

  • Hey opie and anthony, how'd like getting kicked of the radio? I'm glad you talentless hacks are on satellite radio, can't wait till that little venture goes bust.

  • Good question no one got fired!!! lol

  • Am i the only who hears the governor laughing to himself that people are taking him seriously?

  • @lencycler1 what? he is serious.

  • JFK

  • when jesse starts rocking back and forth you know he means business

  • @zeitguy311 i've noticed that too actually haha

  • haha retards

  • Ventura made no sense all i love watching 911 truthers get destroyed

  • jesse wanted to jump up n punch dude in the face

    :p

  • simple as this...where was the plane that crashed in va.? Where was the plane that hit the pentagon...please find them on all the photos we have...also as for motive...look up PETRODOLLAR oil trading system.

  • @guitpla304 I just think it's kinda funny that the ONE airplane that missed it's target was "conveniently" the one that was aimed for the white house.

  • @MONSQUEEKY Good one ;)

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  • If only they can listen to J.V - there's element of truth even to the simple in his arguements. The Problem is some prefer lies than bitter terrible truth, simple!!!

  • @AimingHighAlways whats truely hilarious is that your post is coming from a Jesse supporter. Your hero is one of the biggest liars on record, in fact, he still lies about stuff he admitted wasn't true back in 1999. Wow

  • If only they can listen to J.V - there's element of truth even to the simple in his arguements. The Problem is some prefer to lies than bitter terrible truth, simple!!!

  • Here in the "home of the free and the brave" one fraud after another is being perpatrated on the public. How about this one! Bin Laden is supposedly killed. By the time this is made public (days later) his body is buried at sea and no photographs are released. Yet when Sadam Huseins sons where killed pictures the corpses were used as trophies for days. Wake up people! Our government is lying to us and has been for some time.

  • @somethingdiffereable Ghadaffi is being shown all over the place with holes in him. Wheres the Obama Bin Laden Pics?

  • @Malbrojia Word on the street is that Bin Laden has actually died some time ago and his body was frozen and kept on ice until such time as the people getting totally sick of the wars. They kept "the boogey-man" in repreve until it was no longer in their best interest to continue to do so. The gov. said it was improper to show pictures of or save the body of a supposed terrorist. It would be improper to show his body or save any evidence. They are all a bunch of liars!

  • @somethingdiffereable Exactly. The non sense about protecting us from the graphic horror any evidence of Osama's death is booolshit. He went to the bottom of the ocean with Bush's WMDs.

  • @Malbrojia Showing Bin Ladens body would be offensive to Islamic terrorists. It's funny how their was no problem displaying Ghaddaffi being tortured while still alive. His body is now still being displayed in a supermarket freezer.The last real president was Kennedy. Since then they have been puppets of "the new world order"! 

  • @somethingdiffereable "It's funny how their was no problem displaying Ghaddaffi being tortured while still alive. His body is now still being displayed in a supermarket freezer"

    are we the ones doing that? nope, the Lybians who grew up unde Ghaddaffi's brutal regime are the ones that did that

  • 9/11 commission makes no mention of the Isrealies who filmed the entire event from New Jersey or WTC7 for that matter. How can you believe a report that doesn't look at ALL of the evidence. Leaving an entire building collapse out of the report is nonsense. They didnt have a good budget, nor subpoena powers. They didnt have all the evidence.To put it in perspective, if this would have been a trial a judge would have throw thier case out of court. Thats why i dont believe the report.

  • Opie: Jesse that's retarded...

    Jesse: I'M A NAVY SEAL!

    Opie: Jesse that is such a dumb comparison...

    Jesse: WERE YOU IN THE MILITARY? HA! I DIDN'T THINK SO!

  • @metalslugxBTB That's Jesse's only defense. What makes it even worse is that he was forced to admit when he was Governor that he wasn't a SEAL, even stated in an interview that he "was very candid about his relationship with the SEALs and his service in UDT 12". Sounds a lot like he's being "candid and open" in this interview doesn't it? the guy is a total fraud

  • @lfd0311 Other proof contradicts this statement.

    He WAS a SEAL. People need to stop questioning this.

  • @ChaosTheory0 what proof? you mean the fact that he was forced to admit to the Pioneer press that he was never a SEAL, never in combat and never actually in the country of Vietnam? did I just hear a Jesse supporter say stop questioning? you people are hilarious. Your hero is a liar and a phony. I won't even get into his pulmonary embolisms. Jesse has been proven to be a liar so many times it baffles me that people still listen to the crap he says. It's really sad

  • @ChaosTheory0 Bullshit. He wasn't a SEAL and has admitted that he wasn't. See my page.

  • Government cospiracy theorists have little to no basis for their theories

  • WOW ... I like O&A but Jesse is completely right ... and didn't deserve to be obviously attacked.

    Amazing to know that the O&A show is willfully ignorant of the Governments lies.

    Just saying: the guy has a point.

  • Keeping things quite? How about the A-Bomb? Tens of thousands worked on that and nobody knew about until years after. Nuff said

  • @turbodude555 yes they did. They managed to hide somthing that other countries were also working on, from thier enemies. That's why there was such a mad dash at the end of WWII to snatch up German scientists, because both the US and Russia were able to hide that they were working on an A-bomb. Lol. That was before the internet, before satellite imaging, all that stuff, and they still found out. Yet a government was able to hide a massive conspiracy against it's own people in the information age?

  • In all of history no steel structure high rise has ever fallen due to fire. Isn't it extremely suspicious that the entire three WTC came down after just hours of burning. Especially building 7, it was hardly touched.

  • /watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o

    /watch?v=KhdppHwUJ9k

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  • someone provide a picture/link proving the Pentagon was hit by a plane. good luck!

  • Nice explanation Jesse.

    The truth must be revealed even if it hurts, even if these people are scared or too proud to swallow it. It's going down your throats now. 911 was a false flag attack(mossad+cia+bush adm). Obama is a liar too. Needed to be said >.<

  • good job Jesse !

  • That interviewer is a fucking moron.

  • im sorry but Ventura's logic here makes some seance, and the Radio host sounds like a little douche prick arguing for the sake of sensationalism

  • @jadaya1234 the guy arguing with jesse is another guest on the show.....a comedian I believe. If anyone is being a sensationalist, it is ventura..Truthers biggest mistake is not knowing that people like ventura are doing this to make a buck. He sells books and makes money. He doesnt believe half the stuff that comes out of his own mouth

  • @jadaya1234 I TOTALLY agree, ffor crying out loud the radio show host never been in the military, I will be honest and say that I never was in the military I tried for the Marines but my many health problems kept me from going in, too bad to because now I suffer from spinal sysnosis a rare spinal disease.

  • military training was going on the day involving hijack airplanes anybody look that up their was a stand bye order because of the military excesise, dont forget the training were they moved everone out of bulding 7 to the pier. order out of caos, compartmentelise

  • @fomocore that was a fine display of illiteracy. I'm sure somewhere in your incoherent rambling was somthing resembling a point, but you missed it

  • if they wanted to the f-16 could go the speed of sound and get there under 20 mins for sure

  • Opie and Anthony are just tools. Why would anyone want to listen to them I don't understand. Tools and Shills

  • He could have answered: 'Planes were used instead of truck-bombs because they caused far greater shock and awe; people needed to be emotionally swayed enough to cry for war. We could see these planes hit, imagine what it would be like to be inside them, record terrifying propaganda images. Secondary effects were fear of air travel (as traveling usually causes empathy and mind-broadening), and weakening/consolidation of the airline industry (a lobby against gasoline inflation).

  • Wow... the reporter trying to flame on jesse ventura is just flaming on him just because he desires to be in denial... great.... ty for making americans look like idiots retard radio guy

  • I respect ventura and his patriotism, but he got his ass kicked here. Hes repeating the same old unreliable facts that have been debunked time and time again.

  • @paferdown1 Oil pipeline and oil security. Larry Silverstein's $700 billion insurance claim on the WTC. Exactly how do you win a "war on terror?" We can now declare war on anybody. Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin. Why would anyone attack freedom when they should want to join it? Maybe we aren't really free.

  • @tgt305 $700 Billion? Try 4.4 Biliion funding to rebuild the complex. Sadly, it still wasnt enough money break even. Your also forgetting that insurance companies dont just pay out billions and billions of dollars without asking any questions. To people like you, its so obvious it was insurance fraud, but the insurance company that can employ hundreds of private party investigators, decided they would just lose money off of this claim? its bogus

  • @ElxxChupacabra07 He added acts of terror 6 months prior to the attack. 4.4 billion is about.5% of 700 billion, and what rebuilding has taken place? And to further my reply, the terrorists were Saudi and funded by Pakistan. Haliburton wins all contracts to rebuild Iraq. War bases on lies.

  • @ElxxChupacabra07 Before you explode, I did my research, it was $4.5 billion or so, but still way more than his original investment. Now focus

  • @tgt305 Exactly, and he didnt even get to keep it, he had to rebuild WTC7. So let me ask a question, if it is so evident that these buildings were the victims of a controlled demolition, then why did the insurance companies pay out billions, rather than bring this subject up? What kind of idiot would scam an insurance company by buying the old WTC7, razing it to the ground, collecting the money and then uses that money to build another wtc7, all while breaking even?

  • @tgt305 "In its court papers, Swiss Re shows how Silverstein first tried to buy just $1.5 billion in property damage and business-interruption coverage. When his lenders objected, he discussed buying a $5 billion policy. Ultimately, he settled on the $3.5 billion figure, *which was less than the likely cost of rebuilding*. His lenders, led by GMAC, a unit of General Motors which financed nearly the entire cost of the lease, agreed."

    forbes (dot com) /2003/09/11/cx_da_0911silverst­ein.html

  • Go Jesse go, keep fighting the good fight. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

  • that little prick opie doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about

  • 6:25 - because it wouldn't cause trauma to see that happen, and you wouldn't be able to film it.

  • 911 was a inside job wake the fuck up people do some research.

  • Also the WTC has a core root that supports the outer skeleton of the building. If it did collapsed only trough a plane crash. Only a piece or at most 1 half of the building should have collapse cause the core root could only have broken at 1 point (it coudnt bend or brake at all trough a crash, just taking that out of account)

  • fuck opie and anthony.

  • @Umokayyeahright I was angry when I posted that, but not at you. I'm sorry for involving my personal life and I'll ignore your rebuttal insults. Now please continue and present your case and why you believe in it.

  • "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director

    The real menace of our Republic is the invisible Government which like a giant Octopus, sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states, and nation. - John F. Hylan -

  • Some over simplify, while other over complicate and both are equally as dangerous. If you are trying to prove 9/11 happened just as the gov. says then u have to completely discredit the "conspiracy nuts". The big question to me is how does building 7 collapse the same exact way the towers did. If the towers fell due to fire and damage from plane strikes, why did a building that didnt get hit by a plane fall in the same exact way. I have yet to hear a reasonable explaination for this.

  • @Paulvon78 Silverstein "pulled" WTC 7.

  • @Umokayyeahright oh don't worry, I love arguing with these idiots. They for some reason have got it in their heads that they've uncovered some secret information, yet they're really just repeating stuff they've heard other morons say, with out chekcing to see if its even practical, or educating themselves on the topic. I get a kick out of point out what ignorant morons they are

  • @Umokayyeahright Excuse me, you fucking asshole, I'm trying to have a debate. If you don't want your own views put up to scrutiny then please stay on your own dogmatic side of youtube, kthxbai.

  • @Umokayyeahright I have a right to swear here. And true, you do have the right to say whatever you want, even if it's nonsensical. But I think we're both missing the point here. Let's not get into a hypocritical argument here. I'll ask again, but this time kindly. I guess I'll start with WTC7. Please provide your proof that it was, in fact, a terrorist-placed bomb that destroyed it. I'm starting on this stance neutral, but as a skeptic. Please convince me. Don't go off on a tangent.

  • @Umokayyeahright My views are neutral in this case, and I'll go off on anybody who believes in a specific side of an extraordinary event while the stance itself is lacking evidence to be agreed on as the intelligent stance. I'm not a Truther. but I'm not sucking Bush's dick either, if you catch my drift. I like the fact that, instead of trying to levy an acceptable rebuttal back at me, you do nothing but embrace "Christian-like", dogmatic views.

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  • @Umokayyeahright Why don't you actually do some research on his and the majority's viewpoints before you spew your useless bullshit across my screen? Fuck you, fundie. I've done my research so you can't throw that argument back at me. Show me your credentials.

  • Look how Ventura is so "jacked up"......then he asks " have you been in the military"? This guy is a jackass. Every chance this guy gets, he blames the US for Vietnam. 58,000 brother died.....blah, blah, blah. I respect those servicemen....I don't respect Jesse Jerkoff. We had more casualties in ONE DAY at Omaha beach than the entire Iraqi War. This SOB is a has been! PERIOD!

  • @DickLodge68 ....the other guy debating ventura sounds ten times more jacked up than Ventura, who is mostly pretty calm. Listen to the context... Ventura had to probably try his hardest not to scream when the other guy fails to comprehend the whole NORAD concept, getting into semantics about the term "stand down".

  • Jesse Ventura is a cunt. I hope he gets hit in the face with a water balloon full of AIDs.

  • how this idiot show can exist !? That is the question !

  • Congrats to Opie and Anthony....you both show you are incapable of having a competent conversation. YOU HAVE 0 CREDIBILITY

  • First of all they couldn't get in contact with Payne Stewart's plane that is why they checked it out because it flew passed it's destination but more importantly on 9/11 those planes had just taken off bound for the west coast and protocol back prior to that day was do what ever a hijacker says because they won't hurt you if you do. They made everyone believe they were hijackers until it was too late.

  • An American peace activist was protesting with Palestine and she was trying to stop them from bulldozing a house and the Israeli soldier in that bulldozer ran her over and then backed over her and then ran over her again and killed her... The US never investigated it and she died in vain...

  • Are you sure the reason they despise us is because of what we fund? We fund Israel $10 million a day while our country falls into a pit... If you watch a news broadcast that is not western media you will see Palestinians being forced out of their homes onto the streets... They are beaten... And we fund this shit... American tax dollars fund it... And see the problem is not the Jews it's the Zionists...

  • little bitches like these like to believe they are in control of there life and are not expendable what a bunch of children

  • These guys suck assholes!!!! Worse radio show ever made.

  • Ad hominems abound on this thread to try and make 9/11 truthers look like idiots. Go back to sleep. War is peace, peace is war, consume, sleep, obey. Your government has your best interests at heart.

  • Jesse states that within 20 minutes of contact being lost with Payne Stewarts plane there was a fighter on the wing of the plane. I researched the timeline-it was actually 1 hour and 20 minutes after contact was lost- nice fabrication there Ventura.

  • @mervemcpeake Yes, there's a good chance that his point might've been a fabrication, no argument here. BUT... the fact remains that the timeline for the events of 9/11 COULD have been changed/intercepted by the USAF. At least one or two of the planes could've been knocked out of the sky by missile defence systems, and you flat-out deny the existence of these just to bolster your belief? Please, bro. Hand me some of that LSD.

  • @notessimodude Maybe I am on acid like you suggest as I can't figure out where I even hinted at any of the beliefs that I may hold. I am also racking my brains to work out where I mentioned, let alone denied the existence of any missile defence systems. I'm wondering if you really need anymore LSD handouts!

  • @mervemcpeake The fact that you ignored the obviously existent missile defence system indicates your willfull ignorance of this topic. I rest my case.

  • @mervemcpeake At 9:33 AM EDT the pilots did not respond to a call to change radio frequencies, and there was no further contact from the plane.

  • @mervemcpeake An F-16 was on the wing an hour and twenty minutes at 9:52 CDT.

    Now, if you don't notice the change from EDT to CDT then you think it was 20 minutes. It was not fabrication but you must check facts that sound to good to be true.

    To defend Jesse, Wikipedia does give information on the 911 flights without the necessary time zone information for the events.

  • @mervemcpeake if you dont mind me asking where did u find out about this

  • @mervemcpeake The plane lost contact for almost 1hr. It took 20mins. for the fighter to get there. Either way it will take along time for a traffic controller to figureout what happend once they lost contact with the plane. This is what the conspiracy idiots don't understand. If will call a fighter intercept everytime we lost contact on an airplane that would be plane stupid.

  • He is rocking back and forth because hes so pissed off and hes trying to control himself from a public TV show massacre... WOW! Who ever was talking behind the camera has NO CLUE what the reality of what Ventura was saying!

  • Mr. Ventura was a Navy SEAL? Wow! I've never heard him say that before.

  • Jesse should have clothes line the little bold head Bitch. Or accidently trip ,with the luck that Opie's face would be sacrefics to saved MR.Ventura's elbow from crashing into the ground .

  • I guess you believe, Opie and Anthony, that you can make cell phone calls from airliners also, huh? Answer that you insecure idiots.

  • Troofers are hilarious. Any time a Troofer gets owned, he's "being attacked for questioning". Don't say stupid, pointless things and nobody will make fun of you.Simple as that

  • @lfd0311 The government lies, all evidence points to it. Sure, Ventura might be a bit overboard on the stance, but I believe he's the best guy for the office right now, not considering how much popularity and money he would have to build. Most people don't like fair, and Ventura's fair on MOST arguments.

  • @notessimodude uhh, what evidence? there is not a single shred of evidence, much less all evidenc, pointing at what you're suggesting. All you have is unconnected, unfinished theories that don't relate to each other in any way. I ask Troofers all the time to present this evidence, nothing. Since you are apparently in posession of it, why don't you present it? actual evidence now, not what you THINK happened. Proof. I'll wait

  • @lfd0311 Evidence? I'll give you a good example that you SHOULD know of already if you had actually known Ventura's stance. Heard of the Bay of Tancan incident? That started the Vietnam War. The government came out and said it never happened. Also, you're just like a fundamentalist Christian. You always expect the NEUTRAL stance to have proof of their side? My side of things is validified by the fact that none of these events have been fully explained with at least a reasonable accuracy.

  • @notessimodude wow. You're a moron. The Gulf of Tonkin, not the bay of Tancan. No, the government never came out and said that it didn't happen. In fact, they never came anywhere near to saying that. What they said was that they weren't as open about it as they should have been. You people have a nack for twisting information don't you? oh, by the way, I asked for evidence that 9/11 was a a government conspiracy. What does the "Bay of Tancan" (lol, moron) have to do with that?

  • @lfd0311 My bad, I didn't look up how to spell it exactly. But the fact remains I know what the event is, and you know this. Evidence that 9/11 was a conspiracy? Well I'm a skeptical neutral on this stance, but I guess I do lean a bit more toward the conspiracy theorists. Let's start with WTC7. You prove it was a terrorist-planted bomb. There is no neutral stance on this specific topic. Explain how a building of that height could fall at the rate of gravity.

  • @notessimodude "You prove it was a terrorist-planted bomb"

    wow. Again displaying how retarded you are. Nobody has ever, anywhere claimed that Terrorists planted a bomb in building 7. You aren't even sure what the difference is between the "Offical Story" and Troofer idiocy are you? wow. I like how you're trying to pretend in some way that you're educated and informed on this matter. It's truely hilarious. Thanks

  • @lfd0311 Tell me what did make WTC7 crash before you start plastering the insults of victory, dumbfuck. Lol, you're like a 12 year old. "haha, i win, looooooser!" No, you haven't. Present the case and I'll present my rebuttal. You obviously need to learn the definition of the word debate, so I'll give you time. But don't cry, little kid, I don't want you to cry because you can't even present your own fucking case after 3 comments.

  • @lfd0311 I'm a skeptic, as you can tell. I also don't buy into that religion bullshit. The Bay of Tancan is part of the conspiracy theory as a whole, you fucking dumbshit. I was keeping inside the topic boundaries. Your willfull ignorance in not seeing this fact is only attributing to your stupidity. Good day to you, dogmatic American.

  • @notessimodude again, moron, it's the Gulf of Tonkin, you aren't a skeptic, and you aren't nuetral, you're plainly a full on Trooftard. Again, please show me the connection between somthing that happened in 1964 and somthing that happened in 2001. Please, I'll wait. P.S. which gulf of Tonkin incident are you talking about, because there were two. Honestly, how do you expect anyone to take you idiots seriously when you don't even know the name of the incident you're refering to as "proof"

  • @lfd0311 I was linking conspiracy theories, not one even causing the other, dumbfuck. Sure, I don't buy into he "missile hit WTC" bullshit, but I'd certainly like some scrutiny applied to the situation. I'm talking about the Tonkin incident involving the US Maddox. I named the incident, you should've already known what the fuck I was talking about. Once again, you're like a 12 year old asking the most obvious questions. Go back to playing xbox, kid.

  • @notessimodude " was linking conspiracy theories, not one even causing the other, dumbfuck."

    I know exactly what you were trying to do, moron, I was asking you to explain how they are connected. You didn't do it. Good to see my point went right over your head

    "I'm talking about the Tonkin incident involving the US Maddox. I named the incident, you should've already known what the fuck I was talking about"

    I do know what you are talking about. you don't. another point you missed

  • @lfd0311 I'm not a "Troofer", don't get me wrong, but I do believe that the conspiracy theorists have a point on a few things. For example, WTC7. What ever happened there? And why IS it that the building fell that fast and straight down? Obviously all 3 collapses were done by somebody with the will to not harm other buildings in the vicinity. Now YOU provide evidence that shows WBC7 went down other than sucking on Bush's tit.

  • @notessimodude I like how you just completely walked away from the fact that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You're obviously parroting somthing you heard somewhere else and haven't the slightest clue what it even means. Building 7. a 110 story office building fell on it. next question.

    "Obviously all 3 collapses were done by somebody with the will to not harm other buildings in the vicinity"

    one of the towers fell on 7. oops

  • @lfd0311 Lol, a few steel beams with no fire on them and nothing but smoke in the upper floors. Oops, forgot to include the laws of physics in our rebuttal did we? Oh well, I wouldn't expect it from you. LOL, name one time in the history of man that a skyscraper made with a steel frame collapsed because of fire. Sure, I'll grant that the plane wiped out a few beams, but the fact remains that fire doesn't burn hot enough to turn steel into butter.

  • @notessimodude wow. You really are an idiot aren't you?

    "name one time in the history of man that a skyscraper made with a steel frame collapsed because of fire"

    uh, name another time somthing like 9/11 has happened? oops, massive hole in your logic huh?

    "but the fact remains that fire doesn't burn hot enough to turn steel into butter."

    again, stop parroting. You're simply repeating wht you've heard someone else say. Nobody besides Troofers has ever claimed that that steel melted.

  • @lfd0311 1945 ESB crash. Failed to google any other crashes before we questioned, did we? Oh well, you're just a fundie, what should I expect? As for the melting steel, then how in the name of fuck did the building crash?

  • @notessimodude "Failed to google any other crashes before we questioned, did we?'

    lol, did you just try to act superior because you used google? That's hilarious. Maybe you should of googled the Bay of Tancan, lol

    "As for the melting steel, then how in the name of fuck did the building crash?"

    uh, lots of heat and pressure tend to weaken steel, moron. Steel starts to bend long before it melts. That bending and weakening combined with pressure is more then enough to pull a building down

  • @lfd0311 First off, you're an arrogant bastard for boasting your beliefs without even looking up both sides of an argument. I admit, I'm guilty of this to an extent as well but I try to move away from that.

    As for your bending steel, a deeper and (debatably) wider hole was punctured (for the porportions) in the ESB. No records report a need to rebuild or replace any of the beams, except for the one closest to the impact because the plane itself took that one out.

  • @lfd0311 Did the heat of the fire from the jet fuel bend/melt the beams? I'm not saying they didn't, but what I'm saying is many reports give testamony to a fire that was starving for oxygen the whole time and, based on fact, about 98% of the jet fuel was lost in the explosion during the crash, leaving almost no flamable materials with the exception of drywall, which burns quite quickly and not very hot. If you have a report that says otherwise, please tell. I really do want to know the truth.

  • @notessimodude "Did the heat of the fire from the jet fuel bend/melt the beams?"

    it didn't melt it weakened it enough to where it couldn't support the massive weight of the building. The mass of the building and gravity did the rest.

    "I'm not saying they didn't, but what I'm saying is many reports give testamony to a fire that was starving for oxygen the whole time"

    wow, simply use your eyes and watch vids of the crash. Did that look like a fire starving for oxygen? a ten story contd

  • @lfd0311 First off, almost the exact same thing happened to the ESB, which had less support for all its weight, why didn't it fall? Because it was an accidental crash by an American pilot? Not saying it's true, but it certainly begs the question.

    Fire not starving? Listen to the interviews of all people who went through it, the fire was starving. The only place it wasn't starving was on the edge of the building, and how would that do any damage to the interior?