Except for the fact that it's a Bell Helicopter, it's not so wrong that they have helicopters, since they were used in some form or another on all sides. The US even had Experinmental Attack choppers that we never even used.
The hands that Client is holding the binoculars with are fake and stuck in the snow you can tell at 30 secs when he moves but his hands stay dead still.
@DavBlc7 fi 282 helicopter was used for spotting artillery postions and the german had a twin engine transport helicopter used for transporting guns in the mountains hell they almost used a helicopter to save mussolini but had mechanical problems the day of the mission helicopters have been around alot longer then u think in combat and experimental
Contrary to what Beamshipcaptain claims, no one on either side of the war had anything even remotely as mordern, much less an actual working helo that was safe enough to ride in.
Some people need to study more history and play less vdeo games it would appear.
@sphinxrising58 Who brought up videogames? Anyway, the book and the movie had wrong info concerning rotorcraft. The helicopter shown in a Bell 47 that entered service in the US military in 1946. Germany had prototypes, but those couldn't fly from Berlin to Bavaria.
So you say that Alistair MacLean and Brian G. Hutton should have played less videogames?
@sphinxrising58 Just as a side note, both this movie and videogames are fictional so they do not have the moral obligation to have historical accuracy. And FYI videogame developers pre-CoDMW2 had the good sense of displaying pinpoint historical accuracy or face angry letters from fans.
Now video game developing is based on having a circle-jerk while watching Future Weapons. Much rather have the WW2 phase again than this torrent of "modern" shooters.
@bf2lover42 I am well aware this film was fictional FFS, I seen it when it was first released in theaters, lol
Most video game fans seem to think everything they see on the screen is real FFS, as I have seen conversations on which ship could beat who between Star Wars & Star Trek ( laughs ) so I highly doubt what you say about video gammers being angry over flaws, as let's face it, games have not progressed all that much since Doom, just different window dressings, lol
@sphinxrising58 Lies, lies, blatant lies. I had access to both sides of the story, you only bothered to check yours.
You mixed together Star Wars, Trekkies and videogames in a slurry of logical fallacies I don't intent to lose my time with.
You do NOT know what is being a videogame developer. You were NEVER involed with video game development. If all that you can do to criticize someone else's honest job is sitting around trash talking months of research that preceded the dev. of any game.
@bf2lover42 Not lies, full unadulterated fact. Your modern-day shooters are nothing more than Doom with different window dressing ( FACT ), & as for the pother video games, they have not progressed since the days of Total Annihilation ( FACT ), & Oh, incase your limited attetion span failed to register, there was logic behind the comment regarding Star Wars/Star Trek & video games in general.
@bf2lover42 The point behind the SW/ST comment was fans seemed to fail to concieve that both movies was pure make believe, yet they was fussing on who could kick whose ass if they ever battled, & the dig against video games was that people spend practically thier whole life playing one while hardly cracking a bok so most would not the difference be betwwen shit & shinonla, much less what is, or is not real, ( FACT )
@bf2lover42 Lastly, most video games are hastily thrown together, all flash & hype, with no real beef, then dumped upon the public like they develpoers are doing them a favor ( as if ), then moving onto some clone game & doing the same exact thing.
I haven't an orginal video game since Doom & Total Annihilation, as everything since then is clones with different window dressings ( FACT ) so do spare me how much effort people put into games, as I was most likely playing them before you ever left thhat gleam in your daddy's eye, as I ran an arcade in the 80s, 500 machines total, largest in the entire Ohio Valley ( FACT ), so I do know a lot more about the games than you could ever hope to learn, lol
@sphinxrising58 Because I am only of the total 4 users of this account and I'm tired of people insulting me for a username I did not choose and favorite videos I had never seen. Instead of coming up with decent arguments.
Which you did, by the way. You lost all the respect I could have for you, not that you could care less about it, but it takes a huge son of a bitch to check others' channels to look for dirts.
@bf2lover42 Not looking for dirt, but 9 out of 10 times when I check a channle, I find lies, particularly when same said person spouts off as you have, & spare me your claptrap about being insulted, anyone who uses YouTube knows you can set comments to be scanned before they are published for general viewing, & what's a matter, cannot take being called names, whah, fucking whah, here's a bottle and a pacifier, lol
@sphinxrising58 I prefer to stay on topic than wander to personal insults. And I easily can fill up 500 characters for each insult I get, so it's cuts my waste of time by a good measure.
@sphinxrising58 First, I'm not sure how what I did was trolling, and I am not hiding at all. The truth is that no WWII game featured helicopters in the context presented by Beamshipcaptain so blaming them as the absolute "evil doers" is just a part of the obsolete comments that bring nothing except even more comments about gaming.
@bf2lover42 Sticking up for your other ID is not exactly proof, as the fact remains, beamship made claims that was nowhere close to the truth, but that is typical for youtube play babies, but still, all in all, it irks me when people make such stupid claims, & FYI, he said the Bell shown in WED was a WW-II Helo, while my retort was to tell him to go back & play some more video games as thet seems to be the extent of many people's ability, lol
I assume the fake hands were something to do with the extreme close-up at the beginning of your clip 0:00. A hand-held pair simply couldn't be panned that smoothly. Leaving the hands there at 0:27 is probably to keep Clint's hands warm :o)
It's only one an excellent range of bloopers- e.g. look for the poster in English on the wall when Eastwood and Burton climb out of the window of the wooden hut.
@Eirik36 Well, unless you have trouble with the English Language, I am pretty sure I said " Iron Maidern never played the song, they played a recording of the song, big difference, laughs. "
the helicopter really doesnt bother me. the germans had all kind of secret weapons during wwii, when i saw the movie i thought "thats not right" but i said fuck it and just went along and enjoyed the damn movie
@rocksmeller99 they were mostly in the experimental phase, but technically, they were the first to invent functional helicopters. along with jet planes.
My dad introduced me to this and other great war movies and i swear, we use so many inside jokes from this movie. Fences can be cut or climbed Lieutenant is one of them.
@DASCO2136 I'm the same way. Sometimes I say "All sins forgiven," and at times I'll randomly break out in "Shtrange...it zeems to me...zat zee cazeedral vas on zee ozer side of zee shquare..." followed by me throwing up my hand and giving a questionable glance.
Speaking of bloopers, I never understood why they didn't rig bombs on the bridge before escaping. They obviosly planned ahed by riging the phone wires and a tree but why did they wait untill they were chased by nazis to rig the bridge? It's not really a blooper, more like a continuity error... or maybe I'm missing something.
@wwrigle2 The Germans had a helicopter that they mostly used for transport in limited engagement (see the video response).
Now regarding the Bell helicopter which is used in this movie...yes, that's a blooper. The Germans didn't use that :) But keep in mind this film came from an era where they would slap German crosses on contemporary American tanks and call it a day.
@HenryvKeiper "But keep in mind this film came from an era where they would slap German crosses on contemporary American tanks and call it a day." - yes, different era indeed. Perhaps it was more difficult to have producers come up with $300 million ("today's money) for a film that perhaps wouldn't have profitable box office return. Instead, maybe they focused on soundtracks - that's a trade-off that I would take any day.
Seeing at Bell Sioux helicopter used in place of a Flettner Kolibri is just as bad as that Tiger Moth I saw in a WWI movie! With German crosses on top of that! It looks ridiculous.
In those times they didn't care. All Germans got American or British tanks which where painted blue and got a big cross, nobody cared in the day.. Atleast they didn't take a Huey or something like that, the Sioux being small and with the slightly primitive/cheap look it can resemble the Kolibri with a bit of fantasy.
The helicopter is a modified Bell 47-G with Bell-Hiller mixing and a flybar for the control system. Easy to fly and very stable. Helicopters similar to this first came out in Germany in 1944-45. The Germans were 25-years ahead of the rest of the world in aerospace, resulting in OPERATION PAPERCLIP at the close of the war in 1945-46. Soon followed a HUGE leap in American jet and rocket science and technology. The best mathematischens were also German.
Look at the work of Bellonzo, Miethe, Schriever, Habermohl, Oberth, von Neumann,Schaffranke. Read- INTERCEPT, BUT DON'T SHOOT, by Ranato Vesco, MAN MADE UFOs:1944-1994, By Renato Vesco and DH Childress. The Germans had the best Mathematischens and materials scientists in the world at that tim. THey took Goddard's liquid fueld rockest from the 1920's, made them lift heavier payloads than ANYONE could, and a sphisticated inertia guidance-system. Also had electrogravitational saucers Vril, Thule.
Excuse me but Sikorsky started manafacturing the Sikorsky R-4 in 1942 in the USA and it became the first mass produced helicopter. Sikorsky had flown the VS-300 in 1939 and it was the first to use the vertical tail rotor.
And the American Robert Goddard was the father of liquid fueled rockets.
Btw, the British jet engines were more advanced than the Germans ones in WW2, even Adolf Galland admitted that when he was in the Argentine air-force after WW2.
I'd say that the ingenious monocoque wooden design of the DeHavilland Mosquito was proof the British knew what they were doing as well.
That "25 year German head start" didn't stop guys like Sergei Korolev to shoot Sputnik into space in 1957. He had a rocket program in the 30's but was imprisoned by Stalin.
Last time I checked the USA built the first Atomic bomb, without any of those German scientists from Operation Paperclip. And that is spelled "matematicians".
@Beamshipcaptain That's true but such helicopters like in that film were mostly made in America, These helicopter like that were first seen in action during the Korean war for US and South Korean forces.
Nowadays they were no longer seen in action, replacing by much better helicopters but civilians still use some for commercial purpose.
I think a lot of the lighter vehicles like the trucks and motorcycle combinations were pretty accurate. The uniforms seems to be fairly accurate as well.
Note an error in this, when Burton is climbing down, Eastwood turns round, his 'hands' with the binoculars are fake.
It was maybe faked for some technical reason to do with the camera angles or some such thing. I believe where it shows the view of Burton and Eastwood from behind everything is okay, but prior to that it's rather obvious. There will likely be a simple technical explanation. Perhaps so that the initial 'reflection in the lenses' shot is perfectly still?
A classic Bell Bubble Top instead of the proper "twin rotored" job. Oh well better than nothing and it was 1967 - 68 mind you. So not too bad and quite understandable.
seems like in the classic films they would rather Paint an existing inaccurate vehicle -instead of using a more accurate miniature and doing some trick photography!
It's not just that the helicopter is far too 1960s for the film. It is one of several things in the film where you have to suspend belief.
But even for those who are not even modestly familiar with WWII aircraft, the helicopter sticks out like a sore thumb.
Yet, despite the flaws, this film ranks high amongst my favorite war pics. It's one of the few movies where you see Clint Eastwood in a supporting role which really looks strange.
That's a problem with war films, in that using genuine vehicles is next to impossible if they were rare anyway, such as a sturmtiger.
This film is remarkable in that it accurately portrayed a helicopter being used in ww2 in alpine conditions, such as the fa-223 operations at the alpine warfare school at mittenwald. The filmmakers dilemma was that no fa-223 still existed at the time of filming, nor a useable Fl282, so use a working helo and be dammed for innacuracy of type or use a fake model.
A German Bell Sioux lol, a bit before its time. I know it can't be helped but they could surely have added a mockup body of something a little more realistic. About as annoying as watching Pearl Harbour and seeing Spruance destroyers passed off as WW2 US warships.
take a look through most early coulour war films you notice this a lot but the battle of the buldge is one of the worst not even trying to get some of the details right such as the sherman tanks
If Quentin Tarrantino did a remake (it's one of his fave films) he would probably make an accurate mockup on a crane lift of the Fl282 or even cooler, the Fa 223 and then use 3Danimation for the flying sequences.
There aren't any German ww2 helis still in operational flying condition and constructing working replicas would be more expensive than using VFX. Private Ryan used a pretend Tiger shell on a T-34. Not really a mistake, just a practicality issue.
Speaking of helicopters - this is driving me up the wall: I remember a movie about femal helicopter pilots(or secret agents) in WW2 europe.... and I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT!!! AUGH!!!
"Operation Crossbow" was a spy type movie that featured Hanna Reitsch and the secret weapons programs. There are excerpts on youtube. The real op. Crossbow was the allied attack on Peenemunde, site of the test program.
At least they could have used a more authentic chopper of the time period instead of trying to pass off a Bell "Trooper" as an early german chopper. :))
Because of the captured American general. The Wehrmacht and SS are working together. If you see the entire film (though it's hinted at near the end of this video) you'll see the SS and army distrust each other, and this is eventually used against them by the heroes.
The helicopter shown is a Bell 47. The Germann helicopter had 2 rotors side-by-side and thus no tail rotor. It has been flown within a circus by Hanna Reitsch, a famous Germann pilot.
the only bad thing about this film the germans should spoke german. an error in this movie is that the gestapo was put into the army so they stop using black uniforms before the war started in 1939.
The SD patch only applied to those SS Personnel that were members of the Sicherheitsdienst, the SS security service, originally headed by Reinhard Heydrich. Members of the Gestapo did eventually get an equivalent SS rank.
Re: Clints false arms. Sorry everyone, I've been meaning to post my theory on Clint's false arms for ages. I think that they had to be used for the cine-camera to have a steady, reflected image of The Schloss Adler...even when Clint turns around when Richard Burton arrives, the binoculars don't move... Any ex-MGM cinematographers around to help ???
I actually read somewhere the Germans did have a protoype helicopter during World War II. Whether or not it looked like that, I dunno. I also know a prototype helicopter existed in the American army - my great uncle rode one, he said it scared the crap out of him.
The Germans had helicopters (or hubschrauber as they called them) late in the war. Made by Focke-Achgelis and Flettner, they saw very limited service.
The Germans had helicopters before the war such as the FW 61. The full production Fa 223 could carry up to 16 troops on external benches but usually carried around 4 internally and was used for mountain rescues, medivac, carrying supplies and even 75mm artillery . It could carry up to about 1.5 ton payload. watch?v=w0flSwzjnMA
The Flettner fl 282 kolibri was very aerobatic and superior to the Bell chopper seen here. The 282 was used operationally in both the Mediterranean and Baltic for submarine spotting and used on the eastern front for spotting enemy movements. It could carry two extra passengers. The intermeshing main rotors meant that it needed no flimsy tail rotor. This design principle is seen nowdays in the kaman k-max watch?v=ArF5yLCBqKM
Love Clint's false arms holding the binoculars at 00:26. Almost comic timing with Von Hapen's heel click 3:18 (and just ever so slightly louder than the rest) Great movie.
вертолёт из машины времени! chopper from time machine?!
DerSturmerSS 3 days ago
excellent scene
MrUrdal 2 weeks ago
The SS was not wearing black uniforms during the war years. They were part of the Army and when to gray uniforms.
rickker20 3 weeks ago
@rickker20 Is the film historically accurate to start with? Derren Nesbit in black a madchen in uniform's dream. Can't do umlauts by the way.
morphlet999 3 weeks ago
They should have cut out the scene with the chopper.
rickker20 3 weeks ago
Yeah, all you have to do is add paint and a cross to a Bell 47 and you get a realistic German helicopter!!
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carmium 4 weeks ago
3:09 thats discipline! Nothing like the military we have today
wrathofvengance67 1 month ago
Except for the fact that it's a Bell Helicopter, it's not so wrong that they have helicopters, since they were used in some form or another on all sides. The US even had Experinmental Attack choppers that we never even used.
calgarmaximus 1 month ago
Loved the film as a kid - easy to reflect now on how 'wrong' the chopper was.....
spottydog4477 2 months ago
That´s not is a german helicopter its a bell helicopter
manuelespiritu 2 months ago
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wait theres no helicopters in world war 2 .
sgtvanze02139 2 months ago
the helicopter was the only major mistake in this movie
creativeprojects720 3 months ago
Fantastic music.
nxtvctm 3 months ago
The hands that Client is holding the binoculars with are fake and stuck in the snow you can tell at 30 secs when he moves but his hands stay dead still.
antiquax 3 months ago
Helicopters were never introduced in WWII and were never seen in action. first helicopter seen in action was during the Korean war.
DavBlc7 4 months ago
@DavBlc7 they were used in ww2 but only for training purposes because it was a major set back in design
jorcastify 4 months ago
@DavBlc7 fi 282 helicopter was used for spotting artillery postions and the german had a twin engine transport helicopter used for transporting guns in the mountains hell they almost used a helicopter to save mussolini but had mechanical problems the day of the mission helicopters have been around alot longer then u think in combat and experimental
nateextreme0969 2 months ago
I was expecting the theme from M*A*S*H to start at 1:35 :o)
HxMxOx 4 months ago
Contrary to what Beamshipcaptain claims, no one on either side of the war had anything even remotely as mordern, much less an actual working helo that was safe enough to ride in.
Some people need to study more history and play less vdeo games it would appear.
sphinxrising58 7 months ago
@sphinxrising58 Who brought up videogames? Anyway, the book and the movie had wrong info concerning rotorcraft. The helicopter shown in a Bell 47 that entered service in the US military in 1946. Germany had prototypes, but those couldn't fly from Berlin to Bavaria.
So you say that Alistair MacLean and Brian G. Hutton should have played less videogames?
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Look at my reply to your other post, snickers.
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 I have not posted no comment before that one, "random insult I took from the dictionary".
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 Just as a side note, both this movie and videogames are fictional so they do not have the moral obligation to have historical accuracy. And FYI videogame developers pre-CoDMW2 had the good sense of displaying pinpoint historical accuracy or face angry letters from fans.
Now video game developing is based on having a circle-jerk while watching Future Weapons. Much rather have the WW2 phase again than this torrent of "modern" shooters.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 I am well aware this film was fictional FFS, I seen it when it was first released in theaters, lol
Most video game fans seem to think everything they see on the screen is real FFS, as I have seen conversations on which ship could beat who between Star Wars & Star Trek ( laughs ) so I highly doubt what you say about video gammers being angry over flaws, as let's face it, games have not progressed all that much since Doom, just different window dressings, lol
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 Lies, lies, blatant lies. I had access to both sides of the story, you only bothered to check yours.
You mixed together Star Wars, Trekkies and videogames in a slurry of logical fallacies I don't intent to lose my time with.
You do NOT know what is being a videogame developer. You were NEVER involed with video game development. If all that you can do to criticize someone else's honest job is sitting around trash talking months of research that preceded the dev. of any game.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 .Then your priorities need some rechecking.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Not lies, full unadulterated fact. Your modern-day shooters are nothing more than Doom with different window dressing ( FACT ), & as for the pother video games, they have not progressed since the days of Total Annihilation ( FACT ), & Oh, incase your limited attetion span failed to register, there was logic behind the comment regarding Star Wars/Star Trek & video games in general.
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 The point behind the SW/ST comment was fans seemed to fail to concieve that both movies was pure make believe, yet they was fussing on who could kick whose ass if they ever battled, & the dig against video games was that people spend practically thier whole life playing one while hardly cracking a bok so most would not the difference be betwwen shit & shinonla, much less what is, or is not real, ( FACT )
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Lastly, most video games are hastily thrown together, all flash & hype, with no real beef, then dumped upon the public like they develpoers are doing them a favor ( as if ), then moving onto some clone game & doing the same exact thing.
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
I haven't an orginal video game since Doom & Total Annihilation, as everything since then is clones with different window dressings ( FACT ) so do spare me how much effort people put into games, as I was most likely playing them before you ever left thhat gleam in your daddy's eye, as I ran an arcade in the 80s, 500 machines total, largest in the entire Ohio Valley ( FACT ), so I do know a lot more about the games than you could ever hope to learn, lol
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Why are you hiding your channle bf2lover42? Maybe perhaps cause you like talking smack to people, lol
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 Because I am only of the total 4 users of this account and I'm tired of people insulting me for a username I did not choose and favorite videos I had never seen. Instead of coming up with decent arguments.
Which you did, by the way. You lost all the respect I could have for you, not that you could care less about it, but it takes a huge son of a bitch to check others' channels to look for dirts.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Not looking for dirt, but 9 out of 10 times when I check a channle, I find lies, particularly when same said person spouts off as you have, & spare me your claptrap about being insulted, anyone who uses YouTube knows you can set comments to be scanned before they are published for general viewing, & what's a matter, cannot take being called names, whah, fucking whah, here's a bottle and a pacifier, lol
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 I prefer to stay on topic than wander to personal insults. And I easily can fill up 500 characters for each insult I get, so it's cuts my waste of time by a good measure.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 You have no topic, as so far, I have pretty well established that so do keep on trolling & hiding.
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 First, I'm not sure how what I did was trolling, and I am not hiding at all. The truth is that no WWII game featured helicopters in the context presented by Beamshipcaptain so blaming them as the absolute "evil doers" is just a part of the obsolete comments that bring nothing except even more comments about gaming.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@bf2lover42 Sticking up for your other ID is not exactly proof, as the fact remains, beamship made claims that was nowhere close to the truth, but that is typical for youtube play babies, but still, all in all, it irks me when people make such stupid claims, & FYI, he said the Bell shown in WED was a WW-II Helo, while my retort was to tell him to go back & play some more video games as thet seems to be the extent of many people's ability, lol
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 No, he said it was a Bell. Then he proceeded to explain that the Germans had prototypes similar to the bell.
bf2lover42 6 months ago
@sphinxrising58 Germans had nothing even remotely close to the version of the Kroean Era Bell, FACT.
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
I assume the fake hands were something to do with the extreme close-up at the beginning of your clip 0:00. A hand-held pair simply couldn't be panned that smoothly. Leaving the hands there at 0:27 is probably to keep Clint's hands warm :o)
It's only one an excellent range of bloopers- e.g. look for the poster in English on the wall when Eastwood and Burton climb out of the window of the wooden hut.
UncleArvideAbernathy 7 months ago
major von Hapen 3:18 Gestapo
MJODENG 9 months ago
i hate natzi but i love the officer uniforms
BobDylanFan1966 10 months ago
This is the best known and worst ever anachronism in a WW2 movie.
Cool2BCeltic 10 months ago
you can take yer pixar and shuv it this is film with actors dont get much better.
TheFreemanuk 10 months ago
since listening to the song "where eagles dare" by iron maiden, i now need to watch this movie
Eirik36 11 months ago 8
@Eirik36 Awesome song :)
HenryvKeiper 11 months ago
@HenryvKeiper hell yah
Eirik36 11 months ago
@Eirik36 Erik: Iron Maidern never played the song, they played a recording of the song, big difference, laughs.
sphinxrising58 7 months ago
@sphinxrising58 um what?
Eirik36 6 months ago
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@Eirik36 Well, unless you have trouble with the English Language, I am pretty sure I said " Iron Maidern never played the song, they played a recording of the song, big difference, laughs. "
Got that now?
sphinxrising58 6 months ago
cool old action movie... i know it's not historically accurate but hey, which action movie is?
to me this is the pioneer of the infiltrating themed actionmovie formula.
kinmanyuen 11 months ago
the helicopter really doesnt bother me. the germans had all kind of secret weapons during wwii, when i saw the movie i thought "thats not right" but i said fuck it and just went along and enjoyed the damn movie
DrSquidley 1 year ago
I didn't know the krauts had helicopters. that one looks u.s.
rocksmeller99 1 year ago
@rocksmeller99 they were mostly in the experimental phase, but technically, they were the first to invent functional helicopters. along with jet planes.
pyramidheadkitten9 11 months ago
@rocksmeller99 the germans alos hade Jets Rockets and Night Fighters Similar to the Predator thease days
jasincl 10 months ago
I've actually said in conversation ' I have it, I have it all...' preceeded of course by : ' Broadsword calling Danny Boy....'
nickhubbardtube 1 year ago 6
@nickhubbardtube See, "Where Eagles Dare" is a movie for all seasons :)
HenryvKeiper 1 year ago 3
The Germans Invented Nearly every Modern thing! EVEN CHUCK NORRIS :O
jasincl 1 year ago
My dad introduced me to this and other great war movies and i swear, we use so many inside jokes from this movie. Fences can be cut or climbed Lieutenant is one of them.
DASCO2136 1 year ago
@DASCO2136 I'm the same way. Sometimes I say "All sins forgiven," and at times I'll randomly break out in "Shtrange...it zeems to me...zat zee cazeedral vas on zee ozer side of zee shquare..." followed by me throwing up my hand and giving a questionable glance.
HenryvKeiper 1 year ago 4
@DASCO2136 That's cool dude. I can also say the same thing about my Dad introducing me to these kind of movies.
juve96 1 year ago
We want remake....And Hugh Jackman will be Lt .Schaffer
AaronBank 1 year ago
@AaronBank he insanely looks like Clint
AdolfHparodies 1 year ago
Speaking of bloopers, I never understood why they didn't rig bombs on the bridge before escaping. They obviosly planned ahed by riging the phone wires and a tree but why did they wait untill they were chased by nazis to rig the bridge? It's not really a blooper, more like a continuity error... or maybe I'm missing something.
fridgeslayer94 1 year ago
Forget the bloody helicopter, what about Daren Nesbett, Gestapo!
Herman6644 1 year ago
First real helicopters Gyroplane-Laboratoire 1935 and 1936 Focke-Wulf Fw 61
First series helicopter 1941 Focke-Achgelis Fa 223, 1943 second series helicopter Flettner Fl 282 (Grandfater of KMAX). 1944 third Sikorsky R-4
KKM57P 1 year ago
I guess there are no original german helicopters available to make the movie so they painted a Bell47 with swastica and cross and thas it.
n4120p 1 year ago
nice steep approach tho lol
22640cal 1 year ago
it is NOT a blooper, check it out on wikipedia. actually the first thing we can call "helicopter" goes back to 1930, Italy, Corradino D'Ascanio.
TheChinaRider 1 year ago
BEST WWII movie a ever seen. I still love it.
RedSunCZE 1 year ago
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calvinlam912 1 year ago
The helicopter was invented in 1939 in the U. S. A., but wasn't used by any nations' military during WW2!!! This is a BLOOPER!!
wwrigle2 1 year ago
@wwrigle2 The Germans had a helicopter that they mostly used for transport in limited engagement (see the video response).
Now regarding the Bell helicopter which is used in this movie...yes, that's a blooper. The Germans didn't use that :) But keep in mind this film came from an era where they would slap German crosses on contemporary American tanks and call it a day.
HenryvKeiper 1 year ago
@HenryvKeiper lol *cough* patton and battle of the bulge *cough*
Hitsulikeapunch 1 year ago
@Hitsulikeapunch Yes, exactly ;) And don't forget other movies like "To Hell and Back."
HenryvKeiper 1 year ago
@HenryvKeiper "But keep in mind this film came from an era where they would slap German crosses on contemporary American tanks and call it a day." - yes, different era indeed. Perhaps it was more difficult to have producers come up with $300 million ("today's money) for a film that perhaps wouldn't have profitable box office return. Instead, maybe they focused on soundtracks - that's a trade-off that I would take any day.
samojednom 1 year ago
@samojednom True dat. Nowadays they'll spend all the money on the equipment and action scenes, then...
Producer: "Oh snap, we forgot the music!"
Director: "Don't worry, we'll just throw irrelevant Linkin Park music in at the end."
Producer: "I like the way you think!"
HenryvKeiper 1 year ago 2
@wwrigle2 germany used the helicopter Flettner Fl 282 during ww2. but the helicopter shown here was a blooper.
Antillektuell 1 year ago
@wwrigle2 no there were already german prototypes but they didn t look like this
watzman123321123321 1 year ago
@wwrigle2
Complete bollocks. The german army used these types of helicopters in WW II
Flettner Fl 184
Flettner Fl 265
Flettner Fl 282
Focke-Achgelis Fa 61
Focke-Achgelis Fa 223
Focke-Achgelis Fa 330
Focke-Achgelis Fa 336
bowman2061 1 year ago
The germans did make the first helicopter, it was designed for plane recovery but was to weak to do really anything
MrDesiballer 1 year ago
@MrDesiballer Plus they didn't look like a helicopter that didn't exist until ~10 years later.
Still, love this movie to death :)
HenryvKeiper 1 year ago
i love the fake paint job
zillsbury 1 year ago
can somebody post the opening credits
and music of operation daybreak
satish885 1 year ago
Seeing at Bell Sioux helicopter used in place of a Flettner Kolibri is just as bad as that Tiger Moth I saw in a WWI movie! With German crosses on top of that! It looks ridiculous.
Humbertusmarius 2 years ago
In those times they didn't care. All Germans got American or British tanks which where painted blue and got a big cross, nobody cared in the day.. Atleast they didn't take a Huey or something like that, the Sioux being small and with the slightly primitive/cheap look it can resemble the Kolibri with a bit of fantasy.
pwner9999 2 years ago
I suppose the anachronism can be justified the same way actresses used to justify nudity and shagging - "it was integral to the script".
jonnybottle 2 years ago
@mingzod
Sure we had gelicopter. just google for
Flettner Fl 282
Focke-Achgelis Fa 61
Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 „Drachen
Focke-Achgelis Fa 330 „Bachstelze
Focke-Achgelis Fa 336
there are aslo videos here on youtube about these helicopters. To sorry the didnt use one of these in the movie.
bowman2061 2 years ago
Right, that video response is a hoax :)
HenryvKeiper 2 years ago
I think it would be 70 years. A piston H is twitchy. A turbine is always OK. Please do not forget that some men and women gave??
82abnoff 2 years ago
sorry, I understand nothing of this comment. Know any English? oder sag´s lieber auf deutsch
jonnybottle 2 years ago
The helicopter is a modified Bell 47-G with Bell-Hiller mixing and a flybar for the control system. Easy to fly and very stable. Helicopters similar to this first came out in Germany in 1944-45. The Germans were 25-years ahead of the rest of the world in aerospace, resulting in OPERATION PAPERCLIP at the close of the war in 1945-46. Soon followed a HUGE leap in American jet and rocket science and technology. The best mathematischens were also German.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago 28
25 years is stressing it a bit. 5 years ... in some fields, I'll give you that. 25? No.
antred11 2 years ago
Look at the work of Bellonzo, Miethe, Schriever, Habermohl, Oberth, von Neumann,Schaffranke. Read- INTERCEPT, BUT DON'T SHOOT, by Ranato Vesco, MAN MADE UFOs:1944-1994, By Renato Vesco and DH Childress. The Germans had the best Mathematischens and materials scientists in the world at that tim. THey took Goddard's liquid fueld rockest from the 1920's, made them lift heavier payloads than ANYONE could, and a sphisticated inertia guidance-system. Also had electrogravitational saucers Vril, Thule.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
@Beamshipcaptain
Excuse me but Sikorsky started manafacturing the Sikorsky R-4 in 1942 in the USA and it became the first mass produced helicopter. Sikorsky had flown the VS-300 in 1939 and it was the first to use the vertical tail rotor.
And the American Robert Goddard was the father of liquid fueled rockets.
Btw, the British jet engines were more advanced than the Germans ones in WW2, even Adolf Galland admitted that when he was in the Argentine air-force after WW2.
McLarenMercedes 9 months ago
@Beamshipcaptain
I'd say that the ingenious monocoque wooden design of the DeHavilland Mosquito was proof the British knew what they were doing as well.
That "25 year German head start" didn't stop guys like Sergei Korolev to shoot Sputnik into space in 1957. He had a rocket program in the 30's but was imprisoned by Stalin.
Last time I checked the USA built the first Atomic bomb, without any of those German scientists from Operation Paperclip. And that is spelled "matematicians".
McLarenMercedes 9 months ago
@Beamshipcaptain That's true but such helicopters like in that film were mostly made in America, These helicopter like that were first seen in action during the Korean war for US and South Korean forces.
Nowadays they were no longer seen in action, replacing by much better helicopters but civilians still use some for commercial purpose.
DavBlc7 3 months ago
I think a lot of the lighter vehicles like the trucks and motorcycle combinations were pretty accurate. The uniforms seems to be fairly accurate as well.
Note an error in this, when Burton is climbing down, Eastwood turns round, his 'hands' with the binoculars are fake.
jadefalconmk1 2 years ago
lol why would they fake that ?
slimblues 2 years ago
It was maybe faked for some technical reason to do with the camera angles or some such thing. I believe where it shows the view of Burton and Eastwood from behind everything is okay, but prior to that it's rather obvious. There will likely be a simple technical explanation. Perhaps so that the initial 'reflection in the lenses' shot is perfectly still?
jadefalconmk1 2 years ago
A classic Bell Bubble Top instead of the proper "twin rotored" job. Oh well better than nothing and it was 1967 - 68 mind you. So not too bad and quite understandable.
narutofightindreamer 2 years ago
seems like in the classic films they would rather Paint an existing inaccurate vehicle -instead of using a more accurate miniature and doing some trick photography!
V2s, 109s etc
will4ward 2 years ago
Yeah I know, I guess they assumed people wouldn't notice that the Germans were apparently using modern American tanks, ha ha.
HenryvKeiper 2 years ago
It's not just that the helicopter is far too 1960s for the film. It is one of several things in the film where you have to suspend belief.
But even for those who are not even modestly familiar with WWII aircraft, the helicopter sticks out like a sore thumb.
Yet, despite the flaws, this film ranks high amongst my favorite war pics. It's one of the few movies where you see Clint Eastwood in a supporting role which really looks strange.
mesmeridium 2 years ago
That's a problem with war films, in that using genuine vehicles is next to impossible if they were rare anyway, such as a sturmtiger.
This film is remarkable in that it accurately portrayed a helicopter being used in ww2 in alpine conditions, such as the fa-223 operations at the alpine warfare school at mittenwald. The filmmakers dilemma was that no fa-223 still existed at the time of filming, nor a useable Fl282, so use a working helo and be dammed for innacuracy of type or use a fake model.
Grommo 2 years ago
A German Bell Sioux lol, a bit before its time. I know it can't be helped but they could surely have added a mockup body of something a little more realistic. About as annoying as watching Pearl Harbour and seeing Spruance destroyers passed off as WW2 US warships.
EnigmaNZ1 3 years ago
You forgot contemporary American tanks with German crosses painted on them.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
take a look through most early coulour war films you notice this a lot but the battle of the buldge is one of the worst not even trying to get some of the details right such as the sherman tanks
PilotBoris 2 years ago
Despite the helicopter flub this is still a wonderful movie.
tempusfugit68 3 years ago 7
i dont think any did make it to combat
flakjacket69 3 years ago
its funny there were no helicopter then,
well there were but they were prodotypes
flakjacket69 3 years ago
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See the video response.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
but im saying they were not every were ,you know what i mean right
flakjacket69 3 years ago
No.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
ok then i saying they were not used in combat they were as i said prodotype
flakjacket69 3 years ago
This one isn't for combat either.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
They were used in combat, and for rescues, airlifts, submarine spotting, artillery spotting. Not prototypes but production craft.
Grommo 3 years ago
Probably would, do you know how hard it would be to get an operational original vintage WW2 German helicopter?
KierenMan 3 years ago
Being it's an older movie this helicoper scene is forgivable. Today it would not be if the same mistake was made.
tempusfugit68 3 years ago
It'd be pretty funny if an Apache helicopter landed.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
If Quentin Tarrantino did a remake (it's one of his fave films) he would probably make an accurate mockup on a crane lift of the Fl282 or even cooler, the Fa 223 and then use 3Danimation for the flying sequences.
There aren't any German ww2 helis still in operational flying condition and constructing working replicas would be more expensive than using VFX. Private Ryan used a pretend Tiger shell on a T-34. Not really a mistake, just a practicality issue.
Grommo 3 years ago
Achtung! Eine Volk!!
gglaw3 3 years ago
Hanna Reitsch? Who are you responding to?????
gdfsob 3 years ago
Good God that blade is stupidly close to their heads.
Talbot6832 3 years ago
Speaking of helicopters - this is driving me up the wall: I remember a movie about femal helicopter pilots(or secret agents) in WW2 europe.... and I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT!!! AUGH!!!
gdfsob 3 years ago
Hanna Reitsch is the one your thinking of. Well I suppose it is.
GermanicReich 3 years ago
"Operation Crossbow" was a spy type movie that featured Hanna Reitsch and the secret weapons programs. There are excerpts on youtube. The real op. Crossbow was the allied attack on Peenemunde, site of the test program.
Grommo 3 years ago
At least they could have used a more authentic chopper of the time period instead of trying to pass off a Bell "Trooper" as an early german chopper. :))
gdfsob 3 years ago
Ha ha, yeah I know. The video response Grommo did with the actual German helicopter is pretty nice though.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
Lol, if it is a Wehrmacht base, WTH is the SS doing there?
DerMeister2007 3 years ago
Because of the captured American general. The Wehrmacht and SS are working together. If you see the entire film (though it's hinted at near the end of this video) you'll see the SS and army distrust each other, and this is eventually used against them by the heroes.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
Ah I see...sounds good, I'll get the movie. Thanks.
DerMeister2007 3 years ago
You should. It's a classic action movie: shoot-outs, explosions, and lots of dead Nazis.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
Hope you don't mean Germans by that.
DerMeister2007 3 years ago
Nope.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
Cool :)
DerMeister2007 3 years ago
I'm half-German myself, I have no intention of killing myself, ha ha. Plus one of my heroes is a German from that time period.
HenryvKeiper 3 years ago
Hehe, I'm half-German too and also one of my heroes is from that period, just check my channel hehehe.
DerMeister2007 3 years ago
LOL Clint's fake arms
aribenzane 3 years ago
The helicopter shown is a Bell 47. The Germann helicopter had 2 rotors side-by-side and thus no tail rotor. It has been flown within a circus by Hanna Reitsch, a famous Germann pilot.
stol41 3 years ago
the only bad thing about this film the germans should spoke german. an error in this movie is that the gestapo was put into the army so they stop using black uniforms before the war started in 1939.
rickker20 3 years ago
Gestapo wore SS light grey uniform, with SD on the sleeve. The usual SS patch on the neck of the uniform jacket was just left black.
spritz0 3 years ago
The SD patch only applied to those SS Personnel that were members of the Sicherheitsdienst, the SS security service, originally headed by Reinhard Heydrich. Members of the Gestapo did eventually get an equivalent SS rank.
jadefalconmk1 2 years ago
I must have watched this fab movie a dozen times and have never noticed Clints PATENTLY false arms....well done man
skindancer01 4 years ago 3
Yeah me neither.
HenryvKeiper 4 years ago
Re: Clints false arms. Sorry everyone, I've been meaning to post my theory on Clint's false arms for ages. I think that they had to be used for the cine-camera to have a steady, reflected image of The Schloss Adler...even when Clint turns around when Richard Burton arrives, the binoculars don't move... Any ex-MGM cinematographers around to help ???
jonwilson 4 years ago
i didnt even know the helicopter was even invented in 1944.brilliant movie though.
goldyn12345 4 years ago 3
I actually read somewhere the Germans did have a protoype helicopter during World War II. Whether or not it looked like that, I dunno. I also know a prototype helicopter existed in the American army - my great uncle rode one, he said it scared the crap out of him.
HenryvKeiper 4 years ago
The Germans had helicopters (or hubschrauber as they called them) late in the war. Made by Focke-Achgelis and Flettner, they saw very limited service.
They didn't look much like this one though.
RCBPearce 4 years ago
The Germans had helicopters before the war such as the FW 61. The full production Fa 223 could carry up to 16 troops on external benches but usually carried around 4 internally and was used for mountain rescues, medivac, carrying supplies and even 75mm artillery . It could carry up to about 1.5 ton payload. watch?v=w0flSwzjnMA
Grommo 4 years ago
The Flettner fl 282 kolibri was very aerobatic and superior to the Bell chopper seen here. The 282 was used operationally in both the Mediterranean and Baltic for submarine spotting and used on the eastern front for spotting enemy movements. It could carry two extra passengers. The intermeshing main rotors meant that it needed no flimsy tail rotor. This design principle is seen nowdays in the kaman k-max watch?v=ArF5yLCBqKM
Grommo 4 years ago
this helicopter was invented in 1955..
LightStijn 4 years ago
ahahahah OREALLLY
zoolery 3 years ago
he is right, it's not ww2 machine....
scotfree05 3 years ago
you FAIL at history
aribenzane 3 years ago
ha ha, you're funny
LightStijn 3 years ago
Wrong, both sides had them in WW2. Check wikipedia...
spritz0 3 years ago
Love Clint's false arms holding the binoculars at 00:26. Almost comic timing with Von Hapen's heel click 3:18 (and just ever so slightly louder than the rest) Great movie.
jonwilson 4 years ago
Huh, I never noticed that before (Clint's arms). Were they actually fake? I wonder why they would do that.
HenryvKeiper 4 years ago
well spotted about the false arms.i didnt even notice it before.
goldyn12345 4 years ago
should get a bigger helicopter
DruTyReese 4 years ago