You know where the trinity came from? The Egyptians (infedels and pagans) Pharoah was using this concept since before Hindu and Christianity with the whole concept of the Sun God or son of God and so on and on. Awaken!! From your ignorance and see the that the true God is speaking through the Quran so that you may turn to him. Don't be like the pagans and infidels that challenge his message and become even more hardened at heart salvation is ony through is Islam and Allah surely Allah is not of
worshipped except He. Hallowed be He from their polytheism. 32. They wish to put off the light of Allah with their mouths and Allah will not agree but to perfect His light, though the infedles may dislike it. 33. It Is He Who has sent his messanger with guidance and true religion (islam) that He may make it prevail over all religions, though the infidels dislike it.
Sura 9 verses 30-33 30.I was reading my Quran today and behold "And the Jews said 'Uzair is the son of Allah' and the Christians say 'Masih (Christ) is the son of Allah'. These things, they utter with their mouths. They Imitate the sayings of the infidels before them. Allah assail them, whither they are perverting? 31. They have taken their preists and monks as gods besides Allah and also mesih son of Maryam; and they were commanded not but ths that they worship only Allah; none is to be
@ksakksakm QUOTE: "A worship-able thing has to be a perfect God. " So when you begin to worship Jesus Christ, then you will be worshipping the true and living God; not the man-made, 600 years after-the-fact god picked from a Pantheon of gods called Allah.
It is not 1/2 man and 1/2 God; Jesus is both fully man and fully God; just because you are unable to wrap your mind around it doesn't make it untrue; it is true weather you believe it or don't as you will bow your knee before Him one day!
I can and do accept that Jesus was rejected by the Jews; I rejoice for this had to happen according to Scripture to open the doors for the gentiles. Not all Jews rejected Christ as the Messiah, nor all the Romans nor anyone; God has and will continue to save ONLY a remnant & unless God moves in your heart & allows you to see you for who you are & to see Him for who He is, then you will die trying to "be a good religious person"-SAD Very Sad!!
@onelife4itall QUOTE: "mohammads religion was not the only one that was originally rejected. u cant accept that jesus' was rejected, that moses' was rejected, and then argue against islam with a point like "it was rejected originally"
Two things: When i say Mohammad's religion was rejected; in the God and goddess form; so it was changed.
Abraham's descendants are either of Ishmael, the Muslims or of Isaac, the Jews by natural birth, but the true sons of Abraham are the church, both Jew and Gentile by spiritual birth, or bride of Christ, those who have repented of their sins and believed the Gospel, which is to put their full trust in the Son of God, the God-man Jesus Christ, also known as the "elect of God". By your own testimony you would die in your sin and thus enter into HELL! Because U believe NOT!
If one could explain everything God has chosen to reveal about Himself in the Bible, then it would be useless because His ways, thoughts etc would be able to be known, but unsearchable are His ways and His wisdom is much greater than ours.
The Koran is so obviously a combination of Judaism &Christianity; that any honest person could only reach one conclusion; it was written & inspired by men. God promised to preserve His word & He did so & it is the Bible.
I want to make a general comment about the Trinity or God-head as it is known in Christianity. God the Father is not God the Son and God the Son is not God the Holy Spirit nor is the Holy Spirit God the Son. Yet they are 3 distinct persons in ONE God. No amount of human reasoning or rational can figure that out. the best I can do is to say I am a father to my children, a son to my parents and a spouse to my wife; three distinct roles; yet one just one "me".
CONTINUED---- There is no forgiveness w/out repentance. Some N the "Christendom" have taken the wrong stance that if I am no longer under the law/works of the law&under grace, they believe they can just profess 2 believe & then live like the devil, which is heresy & the Apostle Paul spoke directly against that. In fact, why I was saved - I was awaken to my sin condition-now I love the things God loves & I hate the things God hates. The change is unmistakable & s/b since God now dwells in you.
The true God gave two commandments, which no one can obey 100% which is to "Love the Lord your God with your heart, mind, soul and strength" and the second is "Love your neighbor (anyone who comes across your path) as you would yourself". In Adam all have sinned & therefore deserve the penalty which is both physical & spiritual death, but Christ bore the sin of all that are called according 2His will & His purpose and invites ALL people to throw themselves upon the mercy & grace of the Savior.
@7801Croc hmmm......are you saying that no matter how messed up I become and no matter what sins I do, if I just rely on the Savior, will i be saved? so no need to ask for repentence?
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "hmmm......are you saying that no matter how messed up I become and no matter what sins I do, if I just rely on the Savior, will i be saved? so no need to ask for repentance?
That is a great question; God grant's true repentance. Jesus, as He began His earthly ministry, commanded ALL men to "repent and believe the gospel". There is no forgiveness without repentance. Some in the "Christendom" have taken the wrong stance that if I am no longer under
@croc7801..May Allah guide you...for only Allah can guide you...people like you are blindfolded by Iblis so they dont see the truth,,,and you are happy with that,,,until one day ,,which is the day of Judgement..then you will know the ONE TRUTH,,,ISLAM:)
The point of life is simple and found in the Christian Bible; Man was created for the glory of God; not the other way around as most religious people seem to believe, not only live their lives, but as the Scriptures says that one day "every knee will bow to the Lord Jesus Christ" (paraphrased) Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11 and Philippians 2:10
So you either bow the knee in this life or you will in the next!! Jesus commands ALL MEN to repent (turn from their sin and to God) and believe the Gospel
@FarP321 and_______ ALL MUSLIMS:________________ So far not one Muslim will address my simple question; why should "God" allow you into heaven/paradise; on what basis? Please would some Muslim answer this simple question.
@7801Croc The answer is pretty simple and laid out in the video as well. Reason we're hoping for Almighty God's Paradise is because we're doing our utmost to follow His Commandments. So far, no-one has been able to prove any problems with the Holy Quran. Hence we believe in the Quran and everything that it says. No one has been able to falsify Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) either. Hence we believe in him as the true prophet of God. We're not following our whims and desires like u when worshipping God.
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "The answer is pretty simple and laid out in the video as well. Reason we're hoping for Almighty God's Paradise is because we're doing our utmost to follow His Commandments."
Yes yes and the Mormon , the JEW and all FALSE religions would say the same; the ole' balancing of the scales to appease their god. If I do more good than bad according to my human reason, then I might get LUCKY and be in paradise.
The true God says I have done it ALL; I have paid a price in FULL!
well whoever claims that quran is not the word of god then i ask them one thing! if you research through the holy book you will find explanations of the water cycle, solar system, shape of the earth, embriology, and even about the pharoah. science have tried to debunk them but yet they were unable. if a man who was illetrate came up with this, is it rational to think so?
both Christianity and Islam are different relegions (though alot like each other in reality) so we should just respect each others relegions. In reality most of us dont really know the real stuff of the other's relegion. We here some things and assume we know all. So point is if u actually "really" know what your talking about dont say or assume anything.
I used to be depressed and have suicidal thoughts because I felt useless and empty all the time. I was always questioning "What is the point of life? We're all going to die anyway..." But I kept searching because I am alive and I cannot live without a purpose like that. I looked in different places: science, philosophy, different cults and religions. Alhamdulilah, at the end God guided me to Islam and illuminated my life. Alhamdulilah. May God guide all of us to Islam, ameen.
@o1ocups im happy for you my brother/sister great stuff :) well i had a friend that was full party maniac, out of the blue he totally changed and came to islam. you should see him now and what he was before. before he was a failing in all aspects of life, family, education, income, and a decent standard of living, but now if you see him all aspects of his life is as good as gold or much better. Alhamdulillah
@abid0103 assalaamu 3laikum brother/sister. thank you for your reply. I'm so glad to hear about your friend. Allah is so loving and merciful it's incredible. May God help us become better muslims and guide all of us unto the straight path, ameen.
@o1ocups Congratulations my friend. Welcome to the beautiful family of Muslims, the global brotherhood of Islam. May God guide all of us to the truth. May he keep us steadfast.
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "Congratulations my friend. Welcome to the beautiful family of Muslims, the global brotherhood of Islam. May God guide all of us to the truth. May he keep us steadfast."
Welcome to the devil's pit called false religion - forget Paradise and expect Hell - for you cannot earn or merit or favor with the true God; His salvation is a GIFT and comes only one way and that is through His Son the God-man the Lord Jesus Christ!! Read the Bible and pray for mercy and U WILL know!!
mate i'm a muslim and i have beard at the age of 19, its our identity, an order from our prophet (pbuh) and not everything has to suit our desires. it represents who we are. for instance if im a muslim i have to say peace be unto you to my other muslim brother, and its only possible to identify each other with a beard. now i ask you. why do westerners wear mini skirts ? whats their culture? whats their way of life? are they pure ? are they following the will of god?
I'm glad western music does explore those dark places though. I think in order for people to grow spiritually, they need to acknowledge and become aware of the dark places of confusion and despair that exist in all of us so that they can be addressed. I think dwelling and wallowing in them can be bad though.
We make our own point, and a positive one, that would lead to greater evolution of our consciousness, would be one that allows us to discovery just who and what we are and promotes love for all people and all beings.
John 14:9-10 "Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
Earlier "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, & have seen Him."-John 14:7
The "knuckle-headed" Apostles did not seem 2B able to see both Jesus humanity & His deity as no one can unless He has repented & believed on Jesus; then the Lord will radically CHANGE U!
PLEASE JUST BE OPEN IN READING THIS:: Yes we should worship GOD right ok. well is GOD placed part of himself what every he is because as men we don't understand what GOD is because we are just men. Ok now since we don't know why GOD does what he/she does but we do know to worship GOD if GOD place part of himself in jesus then isn't it worshiping GOD too if we worship jesus since GOD put a part of himself into Jesus. Men can not say I understand what GOD does how. So who are we to question
@jmidesigns JESUS NEVER TOLD MEN TO WORSHIP HIM ! Why don't you understand... When you worship Jesus, you worship a guy, a man like every other being. Man, Giod is the Time, he is only inspiring us, he is ALL the matter and ALL the space and ALL the time and ALL the dimensions, he is already incarnated in everything you see. WHY would he incarnate Himself in a man, that's only stupid.
Its like if I see an ant colony if I am a GOD I wouldn't waste time talking with one ant and order it to kill that other ant over there. They are both low to me if I am a GOD i am not on the same level as human if they were important to me and did some thing to angre me i just snuff them where they stand not order another to do it. and F.Y.I. about jesus my opinion is he was like a bridge and connection for GOD and us to be more connected in a sense to be closer to us regular men on earth.
Its very difficult for me to understand how a good GOD can order one person to kill another person for anyreason. Muslims state GOD is all powerful and why worship a man when we should only worship GOD because its GOD he is everything. why would a GOD that can snap his finger or just even a thought can explode a nonbeliever where he stands a GOD with all that why would he waste time order you to make a bomb do all this and blow someone up. An allpowerful GOD wouldn't think like that
no religion is perfect. any person in any religion that in some way can admit there own religion has things in can work on is open for improvment. I know about and have read the Quran and have talking with muslims. I am a logical person like 2+2=4 not 6 or 5 but 4. ok I hear that being a Muslim is great beautiful wonderful and so on. If thats the case why is there so much blood shed in the middle east why do some muslims because the quaron says kill all the infidels bomb people and kill
everyone plays a role in life so everyone in a sense has a purpose some just happen to be lucky to know what there purpose is while others never know so they assume they have no purpose. just like in nature the ants there for a reason the leaf on a tree the salt in the ocean nothing is there by chance but by purpose. even someone not having purpose is a purpose because then they write the song about not having purpose and the changes someones feelings there song gave someone purpose.
Sorry to hear that; being an apostate is the unpardonable sin as you claimed to be a "Christian" & turned in unbelief & turned toward a murderous religion with a god composed part Judaism & part Christianity and mostly evil men. I see great hope in all that - yes being sarcastic. Enjoy your 72 virgins - poor woman treated like dogs. U will die in your sin 4u have trampled underfoot the Son of God & therefore no longer remains a way to escape the impending judgment - thanks 4 checking the site.
Anyway ShiningPath2God; I hope you do fall in love w/the true & living God who loved the world so much that He died for it in order to reconcile men to Himself &make them partakers of His glory. If you ever desire to understand the true God; go to WWWdotGTYdotORG and get 40 years of preaching & teaching at you fingertips from the John Calvin of our day..verse by verse teaching. Type in Islam, Catholicism or whatever your heart desires & learn from one of God's best & most gifted. God's best 2u
@7801Croc well I went to that website and read some articles from John MaCarthur. Sounds like another snake oil salesman. Sorry but I have heard this type of preaching before and I refuse to worship a Man-God who came out of a vagina. I worship the one true unseen God. I have true peace and will never go back to worshipping idolatry. So long...
The true fundamental Muslim has a creed that goes like this "You will die for what i believe"; whereas the true Christian's creed would be "I will die for whom i believe" - see the difference. Now you judge, which creed is from above and which is from below.
Also consider if Muslim countries allowed true freedom of religion; how many would actually be Muslim? Anytime U R threatened w/death from men & have no true freedom of religion; we know that comes from the evil one.
@7801Croc There is no proof to your statement about Islamic creed, which doesn't encourage people to give up their life on a daily basis, except in a battlefield in self-defence against an enemy who is bent upon harming Islam and Muslims, and that too is done for the pleasure of God, the Creator, and not for any personal desires.
As for freedom of religion to Muslims: millions of Muslims living in non-Muslim countries and don't convert to other religion even though no one is stopping them there
I wonder why you did not answer the core question; why should your god Allah allow you into paradise?
As far as proof' read the Koran; for example The Koran itself admits that Muslims accused Muhammad of changing verses (S. 16:103). Variations are explained by the abrogation of verses and laws. Abrogation is the key; like Roman Catholics you just add new revelation to a god who changes as opposed to the true God who is immutable. CONTINUED
@877whyislam "There is no proof to your statement about Islamic creed" Do you ever watch or listen to the news? Muslims kill more of "their own" than any other in an attempt to murder others. More liberal Muslims do not dare cry foul in fear of death. The fact that many Muslim countries DO NOT allow freedom of religion is proof; because if someone were to retract their Muslim heritage, what would happen? "You will die for what I believe!" It's a Satanic religion; so why should Allah allow UN?
@877whyislam You do not understand your own religion. Like Christianity; there is one true form of Christianity as there is one true Islam, but many put on the badges & stay under the umbrella. Most true fundamental Muslims would say UR liberal & not a true Muslim.
One cannot have an encounter w/ God & not be RADICALLY changed, which I have.
Here is how the Apostle Paul puts it: "Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
@877whyislam QUOTE: "There is no proof to your statement about Islamic creed" LOL Try looking at your history; you slaughter more of your own than any religion that ever existed. On top of that you try to slaughter everyone else to boot. You have a religion made by man by half baking the OT and the NT into a MT (Man-Testament). It is so obvious a dead person can discern it. If U do not repent of your sins, turn from & turn 2 Jesus Christ and believe the Gospel; YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SIN!!
@7801Croc When you don't know the true fundamental of Islam, just don't speak about it. It's better for you and for others. That's the creed of Islam. the true fundamental of Islam is this one : WE (every being) will ALL die because the Creator of everythings wants so. In Islam, we have no right upon one another, you are brainwashed by the media, that's my observation of what you say.
in Matthew 7:13-14, 21 "the "many" are on the braod road which leads to hell and the "few" enter the narrow gate & R on the narrow path. So Jesus answers you point concerning so many Christians w/different ideas. You may consider a Catholicism, Mormonism or JW's as Christian, but fundemental Christians w/ truly transformed lives see the error in theology a& reject these cults as heretical. Just as the many Muslim sects, which R numerous would reject the middle of the road as false. CONTINUED
The Bible doesn't make silly errors like this one and also which Koran, the first that was lost and what happen to the first edition that worshiped a goddess that you are too embarrassed to speak of; thus a second Koran centuries after Mohammad supposedly prophesied, which one of his wives warned him it was satanic.
Anyway onto the next glaring error which I could go on & on, but you do not care about the Truth & unless you repent of your sins and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ U will die!
@7801Croc The Quran was never lost as you claim, nor was it worshipped. The Quran is the word of God revealed to Muhammad by Angel Gabriel, and was written down by the scribes of Muhammad(saw) on loose sheets, as he recited to them. After Muhammad (saw)'s death it was compiled into a book form as we have it now from those loose sheets. Besides that, the Quran was also memorized word for word by heart by thousands of companions of Muhammad (saw), and even now for centuries Quran is memorized
@877whyislam "The Quran was never lost as you claim" Which Quran the first or the second that did not appear till the 7th century and is obvious that it was taken from a combination of the OT & NT and in poor fashion at that. If a prophet from your god makes mistakes, then is he really a true prophet?
No prophet from the true & living God ever made a mistake. What God makes man in His own image and gives them a redeemer? The true God. Repent and believe the gospel while he has mercy on U!
@877whyislam What hope to you have? Tell me how does your god Allah provide you or anyone assurance of salvation? Also, tell me why Allah should allow you into paradise? Then I'll tell you how my God assures it.
@7801Croc are you serious? how can you come up with a lie about a second Koran and speak about the gospel of Jesus? nothing backs up your claim about the two korans and worshipping a goddess. It is a historical given that you are full of shit in this respect.
But can you defend the fact that the Church actually destroyed parts of the bible? where is this book of Mary that is not part of the bible? or what about forgeries that were placed in KJ version of the bible? the one where in John,
@onelife4itall QUOTE: "Church actually destroyed parts of the bible?" There is nothing to defend since you are speaking of something that doesn't exist; how does anyone defend that? Exactly what was destroyed and what did it contain? You could use a college class on "logic" and "reasoning" in my opinion. All the books contained in the Protestant Bible are the same books/Epistles that were used by the early church and there are both secular and church historical sources that show this.
@onelife4itall QUOTE: Unlike you; many Christians actually study both religious & secular history & a little work on your part will lead you to the truth, which I gave to you - in fact, it is common knowledge among your own scholars. Mohammad's religion was originally rejected. If you have a Bible & want to see just how accurate it is concerning the descendants of Ishmael, which is you & your friends. Genesis 16:10-14, where God is speaking to Hagar, concubine of Abraham, about the future.
@7801Croc dude, that verse includes you as well. what point were you trying to prove with bringing that verse up? mose's religion was also rejected in the same way by the pharoah. as was Jesus'. there is not a single profit out there that was instantly universally liked. also, the whole point of a muslim SCHOLAR refutes your first sentence as well. i am with 877whyislam, trying to converse with you is like talking to a baboon.
@onelife4itall QUOTE: "mose's religion was also rejected in the same way by the pharaoh." What did God say about Pharoah; that He raised Him up and Hardened His heart that ALL the earth would know and see His great power. Was that accomplished? Yes and you rightly demonstrated that - praise God.
Also, the Jews rejected their own messiah just as Scripture predicted hundreds of years before the crucifixion & resurrection of my Lord. Jesus goes as far to say that the veil of blindness remains.
@7801Croc the whole point of me bringing those examples up is to show you that mohammads religion was not the only one that was originally rejected. u cant accept that jesus' was rejected, that moses' was rejected, and then argue against islam with a point like "it was rejected originally". they all were. give me the verse that says that jesus says that the veil of blindness remains. also, the scripture verse that predicted it.
@7801Croc croc, if you really are a christian man, i honest to god hope that you realize what a buffoon you must seem in god's eyes. im talking to you from a christian standpoint right now. if you are sincerely not trying to troll, open your eyes and see that god does not like ugly.
Unless you repent of your sin and believe in the God-man Jesus Christ who brought the light of truth into this world that they may be saved from the penalty of sin, which is death and eternal damnation. Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ; the Savior of the world and the only true and living God.
@7801Croc No thanks I worship the creator not the creation (Jesus). I don't wanna pray to a man on a cross, that is idolatry. But ppl like you just say that Islam is this, and Islam is that... blah blah blah. yeah we know you don't like Islam, ok now buzz off.
@ShiningPath2God You book contains numerous errors; such as how earthquakes occur as one glaring example, the God of the Protestant Christian bible contains no error. Your Jesus was a creation of your religion, but the true Jesus is the Living God to whom U will bow down to-either in this life or the life 2come. Your god offers no real hope of redemption; my true God came 2earth in human flesh 2reconcile sinners to Himself by baring the sinners sins. "Allah" isn't even approachable nor real.
@7801Croc the PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!!! now i have heard it all. How many christians sects are there now hmmmm maybe 30-35,000. Geez u guys are nuts. Cant even agree on who Jesus is.
@ShiningPath2God GLARING KORAN ERROR "According to Sura 86:6-7, male semen proceed from a place “between the backbone and the ribs” during sexual intercourse! Of course, sperm issues from the testicles, not the bowel area. The Muslim attempt to get around this is a giant stretch that clearly twists the original meaning of the passage. The statement in the Koran is completely in line with the biological beliefs of the ancient and medieval world (such as the Greek physician, Hippocrates)."
@7801Croc hmmm and i guess the Bible is a science book as well huh??? Your Bible has been changed sooo many times its laughable. As a former christian I know the tricks u missionaries use to twist the quran. Enjoy Hell pal...oooh wait u think ur going to Heaven right? U know for sure that ur going cause the Bible tells u so. So the Bible is right because the Bible says its right. LOL.
Do you see the difference; my God, the true and Living God provided a Way of salvation. What exactly does allah provide?
No such thing as "use to be a Christian" for the God who raises the dead from their sins and trespasses also keeps you. "He who began a good work IN you will perfect it till the day of Jesus Christ." A true Christian has a real testimony of a radical transformation of one's life; as Jesus aptly said CONTINUED ABOVE
@7801Croc How can God be a man? and Man be a God? For God to be God has to be unique and different from His creations like humans, animals, sun, stars, moon, etc... Otherwise God can be an animal too like the Hindus claim cow, monkey, and elephant as God. Why should us humans worship a being that shares our features and attributes intrinsincly? Why should we worship a creation of God, when we have the Creator to be worshipped? For more info please call 1-877-Whyislam (949-4752) and save typing
@877whyislam "How can God be a man?" The God who created all the heavens & earth cannot reveal Himself in the flesh' please that would be nothing for Him and was nothing for Him as Jesus is both fully god and fully man. What is impossible w/man is simple for God.
You should be glad because since the fall of man the entire creation is under the curse of God and w/out Jesus Christ their would be no redemption for man. The fallen angels have no redemption, nor will U unless U repent & believe.
I already answered that question and the Holy Spirit was very specific about that Jesus was in the "likeness of sinful flesh"; in other words He was fully God and fully man, but without the stain of sin. You do not have to believe it now; you can wait till later as you take your first step into hell and all of heavens praises God for ridding the world of you in His righteous judgment. That is in Scripture.
@877whyislam QUOTE: "How can God be a man? and Man be a God?"
A better question would be how can you, being a sinful human with limited knowledge, compared to an all knowing and all powerful God put Him into your little box? That is sin!
Jesus is the creator and manifest Himself in the "likeness" of sinful flesh. Their is one God revealed in 3 persons, God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.
As Scripture records "His way are higher than ours and His thoughts are higher than ours".
@7801Croc it's funny how you claim to know about another person's faith when you barely understand anything about your own. Better yet how about you try to know yourself better before you try and compare and argue concepts that are far beyond your understanding.
@FarP321 Quote: "it's funny how you claim to know about another person's faith when you barely understand anything about your own."
There are only two religions in the world; the religion of human achievement where man does his part and "God" does his and in the end if the good outweighs the bad, then your in some sort of "heaven". This would apply to Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witness and many other cults made by men. The you have the true religion, where God does it all!
QUOTE: "Trinity is a man-made concept. End of discussion." Islam is a man-made religion and it motto is "You will die for what i believe"; whereas true Christianity is a personal relationship with the Living & True God and His children's motto is "I will die for my Master" - see where one is from the God of Love and the former the god of this world; the father of lies - Satan. That is how the story has ended for many and will continue to end for many including yourself.
@7801Croc I agree with your points about Christianity because they are exactly what Islam stands for. When you are a Muslim, you are a better practicing Christian AND Jew - all in one. How's that for trinity?
@7801Croc My faith doesn't need any defense; it speaks for itself. On the other hand, I shouldn't have even dignified you with an answer after your ill-minded comments about the Greatest Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah upon him) in history.
@nail0207 Quote: "My faith doesn't need any defense" Nice try you have no defense. How does one defend a lie, with more lies.
Why should Allah allow you into paradise? Come on answer the question - you cannot for two reasons 1) allah is an invention of a foolish man/men and 2) he provides no way of salvation because of number one!
Yahweh is the God of the living the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob - of the LIVING!!
Why should Allah allow you into your "paradise" w/ your 72 'virgins"-joke
@nail0207 QUOTE: "My faith doesn't need any defense; it speaks for itself." LOL - you have no defense nor can you tell me how allah will save you or anyone for that matter. He won't and he can't because he is man-made and fictitious. You can't defend your faith because there is NOTHING to defend - allah was a god picked from numerous god's and brought to life after several tries by a man named Mohammad.
This is why you have evil thoughts words and deeds that you cannot control because you have never received the true God via the holy spirit. In fact if there was a recorded DVD that could be played about the thoughts and words you have thought about in the past week; most of your friends would not even speak to you and your wife, if you are married, would not even want to speak to you - that is how evil we all are and why we need a true redeemer in Christ!
That is what you do not get; I have the redeemer of all mankind and He dwells inside of me and has radically changed my life; you need not pray to some unknown god. I am 100% certain I will be with the Lord of Lords and King of Kings when i die physically. The Bible does exactly what it claims to do, which is the power of salvation through Jesus Christ whom you blaspheme. You have NO ASSURANCE of anything except for eternal punishment-repent!
@nail0207 QUOTE: "I shouldn't have even dignified you with an answer after your ill-minded comments about the Greatest Prophet" Well you book also says Jesus was a prophet and Jesus said that John the Baptist was the greatest prophet - so since you agree that Jesus was a prophet and does not lie and the Bible claims Jesus cannot lie, then we can only conclude that Jesus told the truth and Mohammad is the liar, which he was.
@7801Croc My faith doesn't need any defense; it speaks for itself. On the other hand, I shouldn't have even dignified you with an answer after your ill-minded comments about the Greatest Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah upon him) in history.
Hope that helps; there cannot be 3 infinite beings because in essence they would be exactly the same in infinite knowledge and power and would be like looking at your own face in a mirror; in essence identical.
I'm just thinking about the "gift of I slam" and all those happy "honour killings" that girls on muslim families experience when they just want to make use of basic equal human rights. like choosing a lover rather than submitting to their families will to be a sex slave / baby factor for some guy she's not attracted to. How unnatural, and perverse. Just another incompatibility I guess. Freedom and Submission don't seem compatible or is there something I'm missing?
@SeeThroughist Islam is beautiful. There is nothing "Islamic" about so-called honor killings. There is nothing honorable about them - it is a cultural practice that is unlawful and unIslamic. Just like America isn't defined by school shootings, Muslim countries shouldn't be defined by honor killings.
You guys use the word "believe" very loosely. At best you probably really mean "I strongly suspect".
The Abrahamic Religions have always promoted division and discrimination, just like what you are promoting now with your "The West" or "Them and Us" mentality.
Could you talk about something more interesting and helpful like. How to solve the incompatibility problem between your 2 cultures. The problem is that the West believe Freedom is love and the Islamists believe Submission is love.
@tariqzamir May I suggest you go to GTY DOT org and type in keyword "regeneration" and listen to the two part. Dr. MacArthur has preached for over 40 years and spends a minimum of 6 hours per day in the Bible. He knows more about other religion; including Islam than most Muslims do.
If U haven't noticed all other God's are 2B feared & appeased in all human history.True & living God is 2B feared if you do not believe by faith, but He is a God of redemption to all who come to Him by faith.
Hi 7801Croc, Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept. It doesnt make sense. Can you please explain where Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) claims to be His son?
@tariqzamir "Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept." No one can fully grasp the God-head; 1 God in 3 persons to the extent in which we would like; remember God is infinite mind and we are finite minds.
However if you you have a spouse with children, the you are a father, a son, and husband; yet you are still one person with 3 different roles; same is true with the God-head.
Come to the one true and living God who has given mankind a plan of redemption through His very blood. Who can meet a perfect, holy, just and good God's standards? No one. Which is why until you realize how depraved you are as a person; you will not reach out for the Great Physician in the person of Jesus Christ. Sin is a horrible disease which has infected all men; but God in His kindness gave His only begotten Son & whoever repents & turns toward Him & believes the good news will be saved.
@7801Croc Hi 7801Croc, Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept. It doesnt make sense. Can you please explain where Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) claims to be His son?
@tariqzamir "Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept" No theologian will ever fully understand the Trinity; some mysteries belong to God because the human mind compared to God's would be like comparing a grain of sand to all the sand in the world. God said:""For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts." Perhaps this will help; I am a son to my mother, a father to my son, and a husband to my wife; CONTINUED
@7801Croc I didn't know just how off-base this concept was until I watched "The Passion of the Christ" where Jesus was praying in Gethsemane in the opening scene. If he was "God", who was he praying to? Why'd "God" need to pray? Furthermore, how do you explain Matthew 26:39 and 27:46, Luke 20:41, 22:42 and 23:46, Mark 14:36 and 15:34: and John 17:1 and 17:3? Especially 17:3 which says "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent"?
@nail0207 "This is how we can explain: Trinity is a man-made concept."
Then the great commission is a great mistake or misunderstanding since the noun is singular ("in the NAME") and the object is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. So like all false religions; you claim to be the true church despite Romans 8:19. You are unable to reconcile Scripture. and base your theology on extra revelation despite what Jude claims and as natural people are unable to understand the things of God.
@tariqzamir "Perhaps this will help; I am a son to my mother, a father to my son, and a husband to my wife;" yet I am still one being with three different roles r persons in one; likewise God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is but one God with different roles. It is mind boggling, but we walk by faith and not by sight. Remember; the God of the Bible is the only God that "so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish.
@tariqzamir "Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept" Just because you do not understand does not make more or less true. How hard would it be for you, assuming you are married with kids to know you are a father, a son and a spouse; yet 3 distinct roles and still just you? How hard is that to grasp? Not very.
There are many things hard to understand concerning God, which Jesus is both fully human and God. How hard would that be for God? You have a human understanding of God
@7801Croc I'm a son, spouse and a father all at the same time. My attributes as any one of these do not contradict my attributes as the other. Jesus (pbuh) attribute as human contradict his attributes as God. This is not hard to understand at all. A human God is an oxymoron, just like Dark light, Living dead, New Classic, Old News, etc.
@tariqzamir "A human God is an oxymoron" Jesus is both fully human and fully God; beyond our comprehension - but then again wouldn't you expect the true God to be beyond our full understanding since He is indeed God. You seem to have a weak god over there.
Tell my why your god should allow you into heaven or paradise as you would call it?
@tariqzamir Were manifestations and extensions of God. We're co-creators in this reality with him. The Dualistic Nature of things isn't exactly night and day either. It exists on a gradient with a lot of gray areas, and we're caught in one of them right now in this human experience. The potential to discover out interconnectedness with others, love, is the little bit of God that's in us. The potential to be shut off and disconnected from others is that little bit of Satan in us.
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "Can you please explain where Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) claims to be His son?"
"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. "Iand the Father are one." 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him."
Notice the Jews, who were actually & really THERE tried to kill Him a second time for claiming He was GOD. -From John 10:30 CONTINUED FROM ABOVE
Which Islam, which Muslim, which Koran? Which gods or shall we say goddess as the prophet Mohammad originally used to sell his made up religion based on Christian and Judea principals, which is why the second Koran (the first being lost) was AD 600 plus. No one in Islam likes to speak of the goddess which Mohammad first tried to sell, which was a poly-theistic religion turned monotheistic with a god who cannot be known and offers no plan of redemption. You just hope, just hopeless.
Thank you ,brother. And that is the truth. Before I accepted Islam, I was going through major depression, Now I know what to live for. Its all a test from Allah, to see worthy we are worthy of going to paradise. Correct me if Im wrong.
the liars. He begets not a son nor is he a man!! He is creator of all things and He only do you worship you infidels!
027Erik 3 months ago
You know where the trinity came from? The Egyptians (infedels and pagans) Pharoah was using this concept since before Hindu and Christianity with the whole concept of the Sun God or son of God and so on and on. Awaken!! From your ignorance and see the that the true God is speaking through the Quran so that you may turn to him. Don't be like the pagans and infidels that challenge his message and become even more hardened at heart salvation is ony through is Islam and Allah surely Allah is not of
027Erik 3 months ago
worshipped except He. Hallowed be He from their polytheism. 32. They wish to put off the light of Allah with their mouths and Allah will not agree but to perfect His light, though the infedles may dislike it. 33. It Is He Who has sent his messanger with guidance and true religion (islam) that He may make it prevail over all religions, though the infidels dislike it.
027Erik 3 months ago
Sura 9 verses 30-33 30.I was reading my Quran today and behold "And the Jews said 'Uzair is the son of Allah' and the Christians say 'Masih (Christ) is the son of Allah'. These things, they utter with their mouths. They Imitate the sayings of the infidels before them. Allah assail them, whither they are perverting? 31. They have taken their preists and monks as gods besides Allah and also mesih son of Maryam; and they were commanded not but ths that they worship only Allah; none is to be
027Erik 3 months ago
@ksakksakm QUOTE: "A worship-able thing has to be a perfect God. " So when you begin to worship Jesus Christ, then you will be worshipping the true and living God; not the man-made, 600 years after-the-fact god picked from a Pantheon of gods called Allah.
It is not 1/2 man and 1/2 God; Jesus is both fully man and fully God; just because you are unable to wrap your mind around it doesn't make it untrue; it is true weather you believe it or don't as you will bow your knee before Him one day!
7801Croc 4 months ago
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@7801Croc Jesus Is not God. God said so in the Quran.
027Erik 3 months ago
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I can and do accept that Jesus was rejected by the Jews; I rejoice for this had to happen according to Scripture to open the doors for the gentiles. Not all Jews rejected Christ as the Messiah, nor all the Romans nor anyone; God has and will continue to save ONLY a remnant & unless God moves in your heart & allows you to see you for who you are & to see Him for who He is, then you will die trying to "be a good religious person"-SAD Very Sad!!
7801Croc 4 months ago
@onelife4itall QUOTE: "mohammads religion was not the only one that was originally rejected. u cant accept that jesus' was rejected, that moses' was rejected, and then argue against islam with a point like "it was rejected originally"
Two things: When i say Mohammad's religion was rejected; in the God and goddess form; so it was changed.
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7801Croc 4 months ago
Dear - onelife4itall
Abraham's descendants are either of Ishmael, the Muslims or of Isaac, the Jews by natural birth, but the true sons of Abraham are the church, both Jew and Gentile by spiritual birth, or bride of Christ, those who have repented of their sins and believed the Gospel, which is to put their full trust in the Son of God, the God-man Jesus Christ, also known as the "elect of God". By your own testimony you would die in your sin and thus enter into HELL! Because U believe NOT!
7801Croc 4 months ago
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If one could explain everything God has chosen to reveal about Himself in the Bible, then it would be useless because His ways, thoughts etc would be able to be known, but unsearchable are His ways and His wisdom is much greater than ours.
The Koran is so obviously a combination of Judaism &Christianity; that any honest person could only reach one conclusion; it was written & inspired by men. God promised to preserve His word & He did so & it is the Bible.
7801Croc 4 months ago
I want to make a general comment about the Trinity or God-head as it is known in Christianity. God the Father is not God the Son and God the Son is not God the Holy Spirit nor is the Holy Spirit God the Son. Yet they are 3 distinct persons in ONE God. No amount of human reasoning or rational can figure that out. the best I can do is to say I am a father to my children, a son to my parents and a spouse to my wife; three distinct roles; yet one just one "me".
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7801Croc 4 months ago
CONTINUED---- There is no forgiveness w/out repentance. Some N the "Christendom" have taken the wrong stance that if I am no longer under the law/works of the law&under grace, they believe they can just profess 2 believe & then live like the devil, which is heresy & the Apostle Paul spoke directly against that. In fact, why I was saved - I was awaken to my sin condition-now I love the things God loves & I hate the things God hates. The change is unmistakable & s/b since God now dwells in you.
7801Croc 4 months ago
The true God gave two commandments, which no one can obey 100% which is to "Love the Lord your God with your heart, mind, soul and strength" and the second is "Love your neighbor (anyone who comes across your path) as you would yourself". In Adam all have sinned & therefore deserve the penalty which is both physical & spiritual death, but Christ bore the sin of all that are called according 2His will & His purpose and invites ALL people to throw themselves upon the mercy & grace of the Savior.
7801Croc 4 months ago
@7801Croc hmmm......are you saying that no matter how messed up I become and no matter what sins I do, if I just rely on the Savior, will i be saved? so no need to ask for repentence?
tariqzamir 4 months ago
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "hmmm......are you saying that no matter how messed up I become and no matter what sins I do, if I just rely on the Savior, will i be saved? so no need to ask for repentance?
That is a great question; God grant's true repentance. Jesus, as He began His earthly ministry, commanded ALL men to "repent and believe the gospel". There is no forgiveness without repentance. Some in the "Christendom" have taken the wrong stance that if I am no longer under
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7801Croc 4 months ago
@croc7801..May Allah guide you...for only Allah can guide you...people like you are blindfolded by Iblis so they dont see the truth,,,and you are happy with that,,,until one day ,,which is the day of Judgement..then you will know the ONE TRUTH,,,ISLAM:)
marro114 4 months ago
The point of life is simple and found in the Christian Bible; Man was created for the glory of God; not the other way around as most religious people seem to believe, not only live their lives, but as the Scriptures says that one day "every knee will bow to the Lord Jesus Christ" (paraphrased) Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11 and Philippians 2:10
So you either bow the knee in this life or you will in the next!! Jesus commands ALL MEN to repent (turn from their sin and to God) and believe the Gospel
7801Croc 4 months ago
@FarP321 and_______ ALL MUSLIMS:________________ So far not one Muslim will address my simple question; why should "God" allow you into heaven/paradise; on what basis? Please would some Muslim answer this simple question.
7801Croc 4 months ago
@7801Croc The answer is pretty simple and laid out in the video as well. Reason we're hoping for Almighty God's Paradise is because we're doing our utmost to follow His Commandments. So far, no-one has been able to prove any problems with the Holy Quran. Hence we believe in the Quran and everything that it says. No one has been able to falsify Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) either. Hence we believe in him as the true prophet of God. We're not following our whims and desires like u when worshipping God.
tariqzamir 4 months ago
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "The answer is pretty simple and laid out in the video as well. Reason we're hoping for Almighty God's Paradise is because we're doing our utmost to follow His Commandments."
Yes yes and the Mormon , the JEW and all FALSE religions would say the same; the ole' balancing of the scales to appease their god. If I do more good than bad according to my human reason, then I might get LUCKY and be in paradise.
The true God says I have done it ALL; I have paid a price in FULL!
7801Croc 4 months ago
well whoever claims that quran is not the word of god then i ask them one thing! if you research through the holy book you will find explanations of the water cycle, solar system, shape of the earth, embriology, and even about the pharoah. science have tried to debunk them but yet they were unable. if a man who was illetrate came up with this, is it rational to think so?
abid0103 5 months ago
Nice! Watch Adam Deen "purpose of life" for another excellent video on this.
thinkingmuslimtv 5 months ago
both Christianity and Islam are different relegions (though alot like each other in reality) so we should just respect each others relegions. In reality most of us dont really know the real stuff of the other's relegion. We here some things and assume we know all. So point is if u actually "really" know what your talking about dont say or assume anything.
romofoko 5 months ago
I used to be depressed and have suicidal thoughts because I felt useless and empty all the time. I was always questioning "What is the point of life? We're all going to die anyway..." But I kept searching because I am alive and I cannot live without a purpose like that. I looked in different places: science, philosophy, different cults and religions. Alhamdulilah, at the end God guided me to Islam and illuminated my life. Alhamdulilah. May God guide all of us to Islam, ameen.
o1ocups 5 months ago
@o1ocups im happy for you my brother/sister great stuff :) well i had a friend that was full party maniac, out of the blue he totally changed and came to islam. you should see him now and what he was before. before he was a failing in all aspects of life, family, education, income, and a decent standard of living, but now if you see him all aspects of his life is as good as gold or much better. Alhamdulillah
abid0103 5 months ago
@abid0103 assalaamu 3laikum brother/sister. thank you for your reply. I'm so glad to hear about your friend. Allah is so loving and merciful it's incredible. May God help us become better muslims and guide all of us unto the straight path, ameen.
o1ocups 5 months ago
@o1ocups
walaikum asalam. no worries, great to know about your change :)
abid0103 5 months ago
@o1ocups Congratulations my friend. Welcome to the beautiful family of Muslims, the global brotherhood of Islam. May God guide all of us to the truth. May he keep us steadfast.
tariqzamir 4 months ago
@tariqzamir ameen.
o1ocups 4 months ago
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "Congratulations my friend. Welcome to the beautiful family of Muslims, the global brotherhood of Islam. May God guide all of us to the truth. May he keep us steadfast."
Welcome to the devil's pit called false religion - forget Paradise and expect Hell - for you cannot earn or merit or favor with the true God; His salvation is a GIFT and comes only one way and that is through His Son the God-man the Lord Jesus Christ!! Read the Bible and pray for mercy and U WILL know!!
7801Croc 4 months ago
why do only mountain hillbillies and muslim nuts have that stupid beard?
thenewrapstyle 5 months ago
@thenewrapstyle
mate i'm a muslim and i have beard at the age of 19, its our identity, an order from our prophet (pbuh) and not everything has to suit our desires. it represents who we are. for instance if im a muslim i have to say peace be unto you to my other muslim brother, and its only possible to identify each other with a beard. now i ask you. why do westerners wear mini skirts ? whats their culture? whats their way of life? are they pure ? are they following the will of god?
abid0103 5 months ago
why they always have music in these videos and they against it
Wtown06tt 6 months ago
I'm glad western music does explore those dark places though. I think in order for people to grow spiritually, they need to acknowledge and become aware of the dark places of confusion and despair that exist in all of us so that they can be addressed. I think dwelling and wallowing in them can be bad though.
JNathanK2011 6 months ago
We make our own point, and a positive one, that would lead to greater evolution of our consciousness, would be one that allows us to discovery just who and what we are and promotes love for all people and all beings.
JNathanK2011 6 months ago
John 14:9-10 "Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
Earlier "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, & have seen Him."-John 14:7
The "knuckle-headed" Apostles did not seem 2B able to see both Jesus humanity & His deity as no one can unless He has repented & believed on Jesus; then the Lord will radically CHANGE U!
7801Croc 7 months ago
PLEASE JUST BE OPEN IN READING THIS:: Yes we should worship GOD right ok. well is GOD placed part of himself what every he is because as men we don't understand what GOD is because we are just men. Ok now since we don't know why GOD does what he/she does but we do know to worship GOD if GOD place part of himself in jesus then isn't it worshiping GOD too if we worship jesus since GOD put a part of himself into Jesus. Men can not say I understand what GOD does how. So who are we to question
jmidesigns 8 months ago
@jmidesigns JESUS NEVER TOLD MEN TO WORSHIP HIM ! Why don't you understand... When you worship Jesus, you worship a guy, a man like every other being. Man, Giod is the Time, he is only inspiring us, he is ALL the matter and ALL the space and ALL the time and ALL the dimensions, he is already incarnated in everything you see. WHY would he incarnate Himself in a man, that's only stupid.
nocaptivity 7 months ago
@jmidesigns Use your brain guyz please, God gave you everything and now you reject His inspiration to Muhammad(saws) and all the prophets
nocaptivity 7 months ago
Its like if I see an ant colony if I am a GOD I wouldn't waste time talking with one ant and order it to kill that other ant over there. They are both low to me if I am a GOD i am not on the same level as human if they were important to me and did some thing to angre me i just snuff them where they stand not order another to do it. and F.Y.I. about jesus my opinion is he was like a bridge and connection for GOD and us to be more connected in a sense to be closer to us regular men on earth.
jmidesigns 8 months ago
Its very difficult for me to understand how a good GOD can order one person to kill another person for anyreason. Muslims state GOD is all powerful and why worship a man when we should only worship GOD because its GOD he is everything. why would a GOD that can snap his finger or just even a thought can explode a nonbeliever where he stands a GOD with all that why would he waste time order you to make a bomb do all this and blow someone up. An allpowerful GOD wouldn't think like that
jmidesigns 8 months ago
no religion is perfect. any person in any religion that in some way can admit there own religion has things in can work on is open for improvment. I know about and have read the Quran and have talking with muslims. I am a logical person like 2+2=4 not 6 or 5 but 4. ok I hear that being a Muslim is great beautiful wonderful and so on. If thats the case why is there so much blood shed in the middle east why do some muslims because the quaron says kill all the infidels bomb people and kill
jmidesigns 8 months ago
everyone plays a role in life so everyone in a sense has a purpose some just happen to be lucky to know what there purpose is while others never know so they assume they have no purpose. just like in nature the ants there for a reason the leaf on a tree the salt in the ocean nothing is there by chance but by purpose. even someone not having purpose is a purpose because then they write the song about not having purpose and the changes someones feelings there song gave someone purpose.
jmidesigns 8 months ago
Sorry to hear that; being an apostate is the unpardonable sin as you claimed to be a "Christian" & turned in unbelief & turned toward a murderous religion with a god composed part Judaism & part Christianity and mostly evil men. I see great hope in all that - yes being sarcastic. Enjoy your 72 virgins - poor woman treated like dogs. U will die in your sin 4u have trampled underfoot the Son of God & therefore no longer remains a way to escape the impending judgment - thanks 4 checking the site.
7801Croc 10 months ago
Anyway ShiningPath2God; I hope you do fall in love w/the true & living God who loved the world so much that He died for it in order to reconcile men to Himself &make them partakers of His glory. If you ever desire to understand the true God; go to WWWdotGTYdotORG and get 40 years of preaching & teaching at you fingertips from the John Calvin of our day..verse by verse teaching. Type in Islam, Catholicism or whatever your heart desires & learn from one of God's best & most gifted. God's best 2u
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc well I went to that website and read some articles from John MaCarthur. Sounds like another snake oil salesman. Sorry but I have heard this type of preaching before and I refuse to worship a Man-God who came out of a vagina. I worship the one true unseen God. I have true peace and will never go back to worshipping idolatry. So long...
ShiningPath2God 10 months ago
The true fundamental Muslim has a creed that goes like this "You will die for what i believe"; whereas the true Christian's creed would be "I will die for whom i believe" - see the difference. Now you judge, which creed is from above and which is from below.
Also consider if Muslim countries allowed true freedom of religion; how many would actually be Muslim? Anytime U R threatened w/death from men & have no true freedom of religion; we know that comes from the evil one.
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc There is no proof to your statement about Islamic creed, which doesn't encourage people to give up their life on a daily basis, except in a battlefield in self-defence against an enemy who is bent upon harming Islam and Muslims, and that too is done for the pleasure of God, the Creator, and not for any personal desires.
As for freedom of religion to Muslims: millions of Muslims living in non-Muslim countries and don't convert to other religion even though no one is stopping them there
877whyislam 10 months ago 3
@877whyislam
I wonder why you did not answer the core question; why should your god Allah allow you into paradise?
As far as proof' read the Koran; for example The Koran itself admits that Muslims accused Muhammad of changing verses (S. 16:103). Variations are explained by the abrogation of verses and laws. Abrogation is the key; like Roman Catholics you just add new revelation to a god who changes as opposed to the true God who is immutable. CONTINUED
7801Croc 9 months ago
@877whyislam "There is no proof to your statement about Islamic creed" Do you ever watch or listen to the news? Muslims kill more of "their own" than any other in an attempt to murder others. More liberal Muslims do not dare cry foul in fear of death. The fact that many Muslim countries DO NOT allow freedom of religion is proof; because if someone were to retract their Muslim heritage, what would happen? "You will die for what I believe!" It's a Satanic religion; so why should Allah allow UN?
7801Croc 9 months ago
@877whyislam You do not understand your own religion. Like Christianity; there is one true form of Christianity as there is one true Islam, but many put on the badges & stay under the umbrella. Most true fundamental Muslims would say UR liberal & not a true Muslim.
One cannot have an encounter w/ God & not be RADICALLY changed, which I have.
Here is how the Apostle Paul puts it: "Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
7801Croc 7 months ago
@7801Croc Paul who? Is he a messenger in your books?
tariqzamir 7 months ago
@877whyislam QUOTE: "There is no proof to your statement about Islamic creed" LOL Try looking at your history; you slaughter more of your own than any religion that ever existed. On top of that you try to slaughter everyone else to boot. You have a religion made by man by half baking the OT and the NT into a MT (Man-Testament). It is so obvious a dead person can discern it. If U do not repent of your sins, turn from & turn 2 Jesus Christ and believe the Gospel; YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SIN!!
7801Croc 7 months ago
@7801Croc Turn 2 who? Sorry, we only worship God, not prophets
tariqzamir 7 months ago
@7801Croc When you don't know the true fundamental of Islam, just don't speak about it. It's better for you and for others. That's the creed of Islam. the true fundamental of Islam is this one : WE (every being) will ALL die because the Creator of everythings wants so. In Islam, we have no right upon one another, you are brainwashed by the media, that's my observation of what you say.
nocaptivity 7 months ago
in Matthew 7:13-14, 21 "the "many" are on the braod road which leads to hell and the "few" enter the narrow gate & R on the narrow path. So Jesus answers you point concerning so many Christians w/different ideas. You may consider a Catholicism, Mormonism or JW's as Christian, but fundemental Christians w/ truly transformed lives see the error in theology a& reject these cults as heretical. Just as the many Muslim sects, which R numerous would reject the middle of the road as false. CONTINUED
7801Croc 10 months ago
The Bible doesn't make silly errors like this one and also which Koran, the first that was lost and what happen to the first edition that worshiped a goddess that you are too embarrassed to speak of; thus a second Koran centuries after Mohammad supposedly prophesied, which one of his wives warned him it was satanic.
Anyway onto the next glaring error which I could go on & on, but you do not care about the Truth & unless you repent of your sins and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ U will die!
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc The Quran was never lost as you claim, nor was it worshipped. The Quran is the word of God revealed to Muhammad by Angel Gabriel, and was written down by the scribes of Muhammad(saw) on loose sheets, as he recited to them. After Muhammad (saw)'s death it was compiled into a book form as we have it now from those loose sheets. Besides that, the Quran was also memorized word for word by heart by thousands of companions of Muhammad (saw), and even now for centuries Quran is memorized
877whyislam 10 months ago 4
@877whyislam "The Quran was never lost as you claim" Which Quran the first or the second that did not appear till the 7th century and is obvious that it was taken from a combination of the OT & NT and in poor fashion at that. If a prophet from your god makes mistakes, then is he really a true prophet?
No prophet from the true & living God ever made a mistake. What God makes man in His own image and gives them a redeemer? The true God. Repent and believe the gospel while he has mercy on U!
7801Croc 10 months ago
@877whyislam What hope to you have? Tell me how does your god Allah provide you or anyone assurance of salvation? Also, tell me why Allah should allow you into paradise? Then I'll tell you how my God assures it.
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc are you serious? how can you come up with a lie about a second Koran and speak about the gospel of Jesus? nothing backs up your claim about the two korans and worshipping a goddess. It is a historical given that you are full of shit in this respect.
But can you defend the fact that the Church actually destroyed parts of the bible? where is this book of Mary that is not part of the bible? or what about forgeries that were placed in KJ version of the bible? the one where in John,
onelife4itall 4 months ago
@onelife4itall continued...the one where in John, it proclaims Jesus as God but in earlier translations that verse is not in there? defend that.
onelife4itall 4 months ago
@onelife4itall QUOTE: "Church actually destroyed parts of the bible?" There is nothing to defend since you are speaking of something that doesn't exist; how does anyone defend that? Exactly what was destroyed and what did it contain? You could use a college class on "logic" and "reasoning" in my opinion. All the books contained in the Protestant Bible are the same books/Epistles that were used by the early church and there are both secular and church historical sources that show this.
7801Croc 4 months ago
@onelife4itall QUOTE: Unlike you; many Christians actually study both religious & secular history & a little work on your part will lead you to the truth, which I gave to you - in fact, it is common knowledge among your own scholars. Mohammad's religion was originally rejected. If you have a Bible & want to see just how accurate it is concerning the descendants of Ishmael, which is you & your friends. Genesis 16:10-14, where God is speaking to Hagar, concubine of Abraham, about the future.
7801Croc 4 months ago
@7801Croc dude, that verse includes you as well. what point were you trying to prove with bringing that verse up? mose's religion was also rejected in the same way by the pharoah. as was Jesus'. there is not a single profit out there that was instantly universally liked. also, the whole point of a muslim SCHOLAR refutes your first sentence as well. i am with 877whyislam, trying to converse with you is like talking to a baboon.
onelife4itall 4 months ago
@onelife4itall QUOTE: "mose's religion was also rejected in the same way by the pharaoh." What did God say about Pharoah; that He raised Him up and Hardened His heart that ALL the earth would know and see His great power. Was that accomplished? Yes and you rightly demonstrated that - praise God.
Also, the Jews rejected their own messiah just as Scripture predicted hundreds of years before the crucifixion & resurrection of my Lord. Jesus goes as far to say that the veil of blindness remains.
7801Croc 4 months ago
@7801Croc the whole point of me bringing those examples up is to show you that mohammads religion was not the only one that was originally rejected. u cant accept that jesus' was rejected, that moses' was rejected, and then argue against islam with a point like "it was rejected originally". they all were. give me the verse that says that jesus says that the veil of blindness remains. also, the scripture verse that predicted it.
onelife4itall 4 months ago
@7801Croc croc, if you really are a christian man, i honest to god hope that you realize what a buffoon you must seem in god's eyes. im talking to you from a christian standpoint right now. if you are sincerely not trying to troll, open your eyes and see that god does not like ugly.
onelife4itall 4 months ago
Unless you repent of your sin and believe in the God-man Jesus Christ who brought the light of truth into this world that they may be saved from the penalty of sin, which is death and eternal damnation. Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ; the Savior of the world and the only true and living God.
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc No thanks I worship the creator not the creation (Jesus). I don't wanna pray to a man on a cross, that is idolatry. But ppl like you just say that Islam is this, and Islam is that... blah blah blah. yeah we know you don't like Islam, ok now buzz off.
ShiningPath2God 10 months ago
@ShiningPath2God You book contains numerous errors; such as how earthquakes occur as one glaring example, the God of the Protestant Christian bible contains no error. Your Jesus was a creation of your religion, but the true Jesus is the Living God to whom U will bow down to-either in this life or the life 2come. Your god offers no real hope of redemption; my true God came 2earth in human flesh 2reconcile sinners to Himself by baring the sinners sins. "Allah" isn't even approachable nor real.
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc the PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!!! now i have heard it all. How many christians sects are there now hmmmm maybe 30-35,000. Geez u guys are nuts. Cant even agree on who Jesus is.
ShiningPath2God 10 months ago
@ShiningPath2God GLARING KORAN ERROR "According to Sura 86:6-7, male semen proceed from a place “between the backbone and the ribs” during sexual intercourse! Of course, sperm issues from the testicles, not the bowel area. The Muslim attempt to get around this is a giant stretch that clearly twists the original meaning of the passage. The statement in the Koran is completely in line with the biological beliefs of the ancient and medieval world (such as the Greek physician, Hippocrates)."
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc hmmm and i guess the Bible is a science book as well huh??? Your Bible has been changed sooo many times its laughable. As a former christian I know the tricks u missionaries use to twist the quran. Enjoy Hell pal...oooh wait u think ur going to Heaven right? U know for sure that ur going cause the Bible tells u so. So the Bible is right because the Bible says its right. LOL.
ShiningPath2God 10 months ago
@ShiningPath2God QUOTE: "Enjoy Hell pal"
Do you see the difference; my God, the true and Living God provided a Way of salvation. What exactly does allah provide?
No such thing as "use to be a Christian" for the God who raises the dead from their sins and trespasses also keeps you. "He who began a good work IN you will perfect it till the day of Jesus Christ." A true Christian has a real testimony of a radical transformation of one's life; as Jesus aptly said CONTINUED ABOVE
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc How can God be a man? and Man be a God? For God to be God has to be unique and different from His creations like humans, animals, sun, stars, moon, etc... Otherwise God can be an animal too like the Hindus claim cow, monkey, and elephant as God. Why should us humans worship a being that shares our features and attributes intrinsincly? Why should we worship a creation of God, when we have the Creator to be worshipped? For more info please call 1-877-Whyislam (949-4752) and save typing
877whyislam 10 months ago 12
@877whyislam "How can God be a man?" The God who created all the heavens & earth cannot reveal Himself in the flesh' please that would be nothing for Him and was nothing for Him as Jesus is both fully god and fully man. What is impossible w/man is simple for God.
You should be glad because since the fall of man the entire creation is under the curse of God and w/out Jesus Christ their would be no redemption for man. The fallen angels have no redemption, nor will U unless U repent & believe.
7801Croc 9 months ago
@877whyislam "How can God be a man?"
I already answered that question and the Holy Spirit was very specific about that Jesus was in the "likeness of sinful flesh"; in other words He was fully God and fully man, but without the stain of sin. You do not have to believe it now; you can wait till later as you take your first step into hell and all of heavens praises God for ridding the world of you in His righteous judgment. That is in Scripture.
How does allow provide hope for the 3rd time?
7801Croc 9 months ago
@877whyislam QUOTE: "How can God be a man? and Man be a God?"
A better question would be how can you, being a sinful human with limited knowledge, compared to an all knowing and all powerful God put Him into your little box? That is sin!
Jesus is the creator and manifest Himself in the "likeness" of sinful flesh. Their is one God revealed in 3 persons, God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.
As Scripture records "His way are higher than ours and His thoughts are higher than ours".
7801Croc 4 months ago
@7801Croc it's funny how you claim to know about another person's faith when you barely understand anything about your own. Better yet how about you try to know yourself better before you try and compare and argue concepts that are far beyond your understanding.
FarP321 5 months ago
@FarP321 Quote: "it's funny how you claim to know about another person's faith when you barely understand anything about your own."
There are only two religions in the world; the religion of human achievement where man does his part and "God" does his and in the end if the good outweighs the bad, then your in some sort of "heaven". This would apply to Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witness and many other cults made by men. The you have the true religion, where God does it all!
7801Croc 4 months ago
QUOTE: "Trinity is a man-made concept. End of discussion." Islam is a man-made religion and it motto is "You will die for what i believe"; whereas true Christianity is a personal relationship with the Living & True God and His children's motto is "I will die for my Master" - see where one is from the God of Love and the former the god of this world; the father of lies - Satan. That is how the story has ended for many and will continue to end for many including yourself.
7801Croc 10 months ago
@7801Croc I agree with your points about Christianity because they are exactly what Islam stands for. When you are a Muslim, you are a better practicing Christian AND Jew - all in one. How's that for trinity?
Besides, explain the verses I picked out.
nail0207 9 months ago
@nail0207 You cannot even defend you own faith. Try answering a simple question.
Why would or should your Allah allow you personally into "paradise"? Can any Muslim be sure of entering "paradise"? If so, then how?
7801Croc 9 months ago
@7801Croc My faith doesn't need any defense; it speaks for itself. On the other hand, I shouldn't have even dignified you with an answer after your ill-minded comments about the Greatest Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah upon him) in history.
nail0207 9 months ago
@nail0207 Quote: "My faith doesn't need any defense" Nice try you have no defense. How does one defend a lie, with more lies.
Why should Allah allow you into paradise? Come on answer the question - you cannot for two reasons 1) allah is an invention of a foolish man/men and 2) he provides no way of salvation because of number one!
Yahweh is the God of the living the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob - of the LIVING!!
Why should Allah allow you into your "paradise" w/ your 72 'virgins"-joke
7801Croc 9 months ago
@nail0207 QUOTE: "My faith doesn't need any defense; it speaks for itself." LOL - you have no defense nor can you tell me how allah will save you or anyone for that matter. He won't and he can't because he is man-made and fictitious. You can't defend your faith because there is NOTHING to defend - allah was a god picked from numerous god's and brought to life after several tries by a man named Mohammad.
CONTINUED ABOVE
7801Croc 9 months ago
@nail0207 CONTINED FROM BELOW
This is why you have evil thoughts words and deeds that you cannot control because you have never received the true God via the holy spirit. In fact if there was a recorded DVD that could be played about the thoughts and words you have thought about in the past week; most of your friends would not even speak to you and your wife, if you are married, would not even want to speak to you - that is how evil we all are and why we need a true redeemer in Christ!
7801Croc 9 months ago
@7801Croc We all truly pray that you find peace and guidance in whichever God you want to pray and path you want to take.
nail0207 9 months ago
@nail0207 "We all truly pray that you find peace"
That is what you do not get; I have the redeemer of all mankind and He dwells inside of me and has radically changed my life; you need not pray to some unknown god. I am 100% certain I will be with the Lord of Lords and King of Kings when i die physically. The Bible does exactly what it claims to do, which is the power of salvation through Jesus Christ whom you blaspheme. You have NO ASSURANCE of anything except for eternal punishment-repent!
7801Croc 9 months ago
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@nail0207 QUOTE: "I shouldn't have even dignified you with an answer after your ill-minded comments about the Greatest Prophet" Well you book also says Jesus was a prophet and Jesus said that John the Baptist was the greatest prophet - so since you agree that Jesus was a prophet and does not lie and the Bible claims Jesus cannot lie, then we can only conclude that Jesus told the truth and Mohammad is the liar, which he was.
Follow the rational if you can.
7801Croc 9 months ago
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@7801Croc My faith doesn't need any defense; it speaks for itself. On the other hand, I shouldn't have even dignified you with an answer after your ill-minded comments about the Greatest Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah upon him) in history.
nail0207 9 months ago
Hope that helps; there cannot be 3 infinite beings because in essence they would be exactly the same in infinite knowledge and power and would be like looking at your own face in a mirror; in essence identical.
7801Croc 11 months ago
I'm just thinking about the "gift of I slam" and all those happy "honour killings" that girls on muslim families experience when they just want to make use of basic equal human rights. like choosing a lover rather than submitting to their families will to be a sex slave / baby factor for some guy she's not attracted to. How unnatural, and perverse. Just another incompatibility I guess. Freedom and Submission don't seem compatible or is there something I'm missing?
SeeThroughist 1 year ago
@SeeThroughist Islam is beautiful. There is nothing "Islamic" about so-called honor killings. There is nothing honorable about them - it is a cultural practice that is unlawful and unIslamic. Just like America isn't defined by school shootings, Muslim countries shouldn't be defined by honor killings.
dhikrAllah 11 months ago
You guys use the word "believe" very loosely. At best you probably really mean "I strongly suspect".
The Abrahamic Religions have always promoted division and discrimination, just like what you are promoting now with your "The West" or "Them and Us" mentality.
Could you talk about something more interesting and helpful like. How to solve the incompatibility problem between your 2 cultures. The problem is that the West believe Freedom is love and the Islamists believe Submission is love.
SeeThroughist 1 year ago
@tariqzamir May I suggest you go to GTY DOT org and type in keyword "regeneration" and listen to the two part. Dr. MacArthur has preached for over 40 years and spends a minimum of 6 hours per day in the Bible. He knows more about other religion; including Islam than most Muslims do.
If U haven't noticed all other God's are 2B feared & appeased in all human history.True & living God is 2B feared if you do not believe by faith, but He is a God of redemption to all who come to Him by faith.
7801Croc 1 year ago
Hi 7801Croc, Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept. It doesnt make sense. Can you please explain where Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) claims to be His son?
tariqzamir 1 year ago
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@tariqzamir "Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept." No one can fully grasp the God-head; 1 God in 3 persons to the extent in which we would like; remember God is infinite mind and we are finite minds.
However if you you have a spouse with children, the you are a father, a son, and husband; yet you are still one person with 3 different roles; same is true with the God-head.
CONTINUED - ABOVE
7801Croc 11 months ago
Come to the one true and living God who has given mankind a plan of redemption through His very blood. Who can meet a perfect, holy, just and good God's standards? No one. Which is why until you realize how depraved you are as a person; you will not reach out for the Great Physician in the person of Jesus Christ. Sin is a horrible disease which has infected all men; but God in His kindness gave His only begotten Son & whoever repents & turns toward Him & believes the good news will be saved.
7801Croc 1 year ago
@7801Croc Hi 7801Croc, Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept. It doesnt make sense. Can you please explain where Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) claims to be His son?
tariqzamir 1 year ago 3
@tariqzamir "Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept" No theologian will ever fully understand the Trinity; some mysteries belong to God because the human mind compared to God's would be like comparing a grain of sand to all the sand in the world. God said:""For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts." Perhaps this will help; I am a son to my mother, a father to my son, and a husband to my wife; CONTINUED
7801Croc 1 year ago
@7801Croc I didn't know just how off-base this concept was until I watched "The Passion of the Christ" where Jesus was praying in Gethsemane in the opening scene. If he was "God", who was he praying to? Why'd "God" need to pray? Furthermore, how do you explain Matthew 26:39 and 27:46, Luke 20:41, 22:42 and 23:46, Mark 14:36 and 15:34: and John 17:1 and 17:3? Especially 17:3 which says "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent"?
nail0207 11 months ago
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nail0207 11 months ago
@7801Croc This is how we can explain: Trinity is a man-made concept. End of discussion.
God is too great to be "contained" in the human form!
nail0207 11 months ago
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@nail0207 "This is how we can explain: Trinity is a man-made concept."
Then the great commission is a great mistake or misunderstanding since the noun is singular ("in the NAME") and the object is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. So like all false religions; you claim to be the true church despite Romans 8:19. You are unable to reconcile Scripture. and base your theology on extra revelation despite what Jude claims and as natural people are unable to understand the things of God.
7801Croc 11 months ago
@tariqzamir "Perhaps this will help; I am a son to my mother, a father to my son, and a husband to my wife;" yet I am still one being with three different roles r persons in one; likewise God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is but one God with different roles. It is mind boggling, but we walk by faith and not by sight. Remember; the God of the Bible is the only God that "so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish.
7801Croc 1 year ago
@tariqzamir "Never really understood the 1-in-3 and 3-in-1 concept" Just because you do not understand does not make more or less true. How hard would it be for you, assuming you are married with kids to know you are a father, a son and a spouse; yet 3 distinct roles and still just you? How hard is that to grasp? Not very.
There are many things hard to understand concerning God, which Jesus is both fully human and God. How hard would that be for God? You have a human understanding of God
7801Croc 7 months ago
@7801Croc I'm a son, spouse and a father all at the same time. My attributes as any one of these do not contradict my attributes as the other. Jesus (pbuh) attribute as human contradict his attributes as God. This is not hard to understand at all. A human God is an oxymoron, just like Dark light, Living dead, New Classic, Old News, etc.
tariqzamir 7 months ago
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@tariqzamir "A human God is an oxymoron" Jesus is both fully human and fully God; beyond our comprehension - but then again wouldn't you expect the true God to be beyond our full understanding since He is indeed God. You seem to have a weak god over there.
Tell my why your god should allow you into heaven or paradise as you would call it?
7801Croc 7 months ago
@tariqzamir Were manifestations and extensions of God. We're co-creators in this reality with him. The Dualistic Nature of things isn't exactly night and day either. It exists on a gradient with a lot of gray areas, and we're caught in one of them right now in this human experience. The potential to discover out interconnectedness with others, love, is the little bit of God that's in us. The potential to be shut off and disconnected from others is that little bit of Satan in us.
JNathanK2011 6 months ago
@tariqzamir QUOTE: "Can you please explain where Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) claims to be His son?"
"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. "Iand the Father are one." 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him."
Notice the Jews, who were actually & really THERE tried to kill Him a second time for claiming He was GOD. -From John 10:30 CONTINUED FROM ABOVE
7801Croc 7 months ago
Which Islam, which Muslim, which Koran? Which gods or shall we say goddess as the prophet Mohammad originally used to sell his made up religion based on Christian and Judea principals, which is why the second Koran (the first being lost) was AD 600 plus. No one in Islam likes to speak of the goddess which Mohammad first tried to sell, which was a poly-theistic religion turned monotheistic with a god who cannot be known and offers no plan of redemption. You just hope, just hopeless.
7801Croc 1 year ago
As Salaam Alkiumn
Thank you ,brother. And that is the truth. Before I accepted Islam, I was going through major depression, Now I know what to live for. Its all a test from Allah, to see worthy we are worthy of going to paradise. Correct me if Im wrong.
Fateen304 1 year ago