@lt1hillinghoe its possible to hit 11s with bolt ons with an 03-04 cobra these engines respond well to any mod so full exhaust pulley and tune its putting down at least 440rwhp
good run between a lightly bolted ls1 and a cts-v. as for this funny argument going on lol, yea a stock 03/04 cobra is capable of a 12.8 . a pullied and fully bolted cobra will run a high 11 with sticky tires. Its been done many times before. terminators pick around 100 hp on tha stock blower with bolt ons, and upper and lower pullies.
@cosmo223, Thats awesome you have a Terminator what color is yours? I have always wanted one and now have the money to buy one. I really want Mystic blue,but the one bright red color would be baddass too! Not sure the color name.
@LT1HILLINGHOE um/ no if thats all the cts-v did against a ws6 my cobra would have no trouble.. i like the cts-v but its way too heavy..... w bolt ons my cobra does 12.1 at the track on stock tires
@cosmo0223 If you have a "bolt on" '04 cobra that turns a 12.1 on stock tires at the track, then I would call the Smithsonian in D.C. and donate that one of a kind for future generations to view.
,,, you obviously have no clue about 03-04 cobra's,, when i ran 12.1 i only had a magnaflow cat back/ upper pulley/ and a tune. now i also have an x pipe and cai so i should be able to do even better now...... i ran 12.8 in my car totally stock!
@cosmo0223 Yeah....no clue here LOLOLOLOL Seven or eight around here, including a "terminator" lol that have gotten their butt handed to them in several different of my cars by yours truly, but no clue here. Hahahaha Wait a minute.....12.80 stock!!! Bwahahahahahhahaha Good one!!!! Gotta run now....You keep that big bad horse snake with all that speedy powa between the ditches.
@LT1HILLINGHOE .. and wat car did u beat a tremi in ? im in south jersey where u at ? mabye we can meet up and race..... if u look it up a stock terminator is supposed to do about 12.9 stock and mabye better w a good driver.. "myself" wich i got 12.8... ////12.8 somthing .. it was somwhere betwenn 12.81 or 12.89.... mabye u should research before u speak
@cosmo0223 Hahaha....yeah....I am going to research it. Putting 2 car lengths on one in the quarter just isn't enough research. LOL whatever you say, kid. And I don't meet up with anyone....if you want to run it wait until the Spring when my local track opens up and then I'll lay the smack down on you. Not for free though. So if you wanna talk big and lay down a challenge bring a 4 figure amount of money with you. Make sure you can spare it. I don't feel good about taking your rent money.
@LT1HILLINGHOE ..u still have yet to tell me wat car u have that u supposedly beat a terminator with... and u have yet to research 03-04 cobra.. ur to busy telling me wat my car can and cant do.
@cosmo0223 Grow up, kid. I don't have time for your childish antics. If you want to run anything I got and lose your money then let me know, if not, then keep all your childish games to yourself. You look foolish. 'Nuff said and have a nice life.
@LT1HILLINGHOE . calling me kid withought know anything about me and telling me how ull beat me if i wanna race when u refuse to tell me what car u drive? yeah im playing childish games..... fact is i will race u if u actually have a car worth racing.. but since u dont have a car that ur proud enough to talk about on here proves ur full of bull/ ur just some guy that that goes page to page and talks big wen u have nothing to back it up. at least research before u talk about stuff buddy
@cosmo0223 not that i care at all, but his name is LT1 so i mean you can assume for the most part what car he has man. Otherwise continue as you two will
look, the driver of the trans am took a bit to long to shift thru those gears...you would have gained much more time if you had shifted much faster...
Those LS6 CTS-V's are really pesky to put away. Just when you think you might be pulling away the fucker's top end power kicks in and he pulls on you. The performance on those is impressive given its 3800+ LB curb weight.
@chevyking98 A older model cts-v or the new ones? Your boy cant drive worth a fuck if he gets beat by a 300hp ls1 car. The cts-v barly weights more and has 556hp.
@504stunta that is not the 556hp model CTS. It wasn't till 09 that the caddis were pushing over 500 out of the factory and that car in the video is an older body. It is 2004-2007 body style so it has 400 hp from the factory. The WS6 is not stock either so it is probly pushing more than 300hp. The caddis doesn't really shine till you put it on a track with some turns on it. That is where they are designed to stand out.
@dizzie6275 LOL I was going to ask what year the CTS-V was because I saw this on my phone but came home and watched it and realized it was the older V. A lot of people don't know the 556hp CTS-V is so new because we all see the older models more often
@dizzie6275 might as well race a grand caravan against a viper then cuz a 4th gen t.a. with light mods would never touch a new v...thats why this was a good race cuz they were comparable cars performance wise
Oh, that's my bad I posted it like 10 times thinking it wasnt working correctly. I see what you are talking about now. That was my mistake, I was omitting the LS2 CTS's. My apologies to the all knower's of youtube!
I'm an idiot? Go to page two of this video's comments and see what has been posted. Someone said put that trans am up against the NEW CTS-V that is equipped with the LSA engine "and see what happens". To which I replied, then let me dump equal amount of money into the T/A as one would spend on said LSA equipped CTS. Which part of that makes me an idiot?
I don't doubt that car can run a 14.0. That's not that fast of a time, anyway, so why would anyone doubt it? If you were claiming a 13.0, then it would be suspect, but a 14.0 is perfectly doable with that car, engine and mods. I love how others always claim it can't be done, even when those of us have done it...
haha, well i guess i need to hire a guy like you to do work on my cars...because it seems that the laws of physics seem to stop existing in your garage, and the track you go to--and you can make cars go FAST with 3 or 4 minor mods....heavy lincon runnin 14.0 with no DR radials or any significant mod...yeah sure buddy.....dreram on.
dude, not even a LX mustang which is a hell lot lighter than the mk7 run 14.0 with just--pullies,cai,e-fans,and cat delete would run that....not with aod...MAYBE a 5speed...MAYBE. the ford aod trans is very clumsy and the torque conv is not tuned for performance...its tuned for economy. there's no way you can run 14 flat with that car. 15 flat is more appropriate.
here we go with the money game now. So I guess the TA is better than a Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti and any other car because you can use that money to put into it.
Let's see, so you go buy a cadillac for upward into the 50 thousand's and I can pick up a trans am for 10 easily. That leaves me with roughly 40,000 left over. If it were my goal in life to race and beat a CTS-V LSA car, as stated by the original poster i commented to, yes that 40,000$ left over from purchase can be used to be better and faster that the cadillac. Don't get me wrong, I would not do this, I would find a better way to spend 50k than on a trans am.
Not very, power to weight ratio with the correct engine combination/turbo the power to weight ratio could easily surpass a trans am. It's all about $'s spent. If I spent 10k on a trans am and you bought a 500$ civic and dumped 9500 into it, I would call it a win in your favor.
@13tomabram stock for stock...you mean your honda that goes 0-60 in 10 seconds compared to the trans am that goes 0-60 in 5.2? yeah, there's a good one to compare....its all about money invested. you pay 10k for a car, there is a reason for it. because it performs. you pay $500 there is a reason for it...someone just wants it the hell off their driveway. you spend $9500 on it, it will be a bit better than the trans am, depends on what you spend it on too dont forget.
First off moron im not poor like you and drive a fucking honda.
Second, nice try comparing cars that are stock to cars that have work dont to them. If you want to go that route then I will just go spend HALF of what you spend on ANY car and smoke the shit out of you with a bike. We can keep playing these games all day.
@13tomabram wow, you can do a backround check on youtube? first off, i never EVER owned a honda, did have a trans am a few years back. and dude, you cant even comprehend what i said. you said if you buy a honda for $500 and put $9500 into it, it will beat a $10k trans am. i was just saying that you are spending $10k either way and thats the 2nd part i was comparing. but good luck on learning to read when you go back to school and its pretty sad that people actually get mad on youtube. get a life
@13tomabram Dude you sound like a douche bag. "I'll race you on my bike." Bikes are for pussies that cannot afford to mod a car. Keep pouring fried rice into your V-tac Honda.
@1970judge ---yeah but those T/A's are no slouch when it came to the sticker price man...older yes but NOT cheap by any means!!! BUT you do have a good point!
It is an LS6. How do I know you ask? That is the only engine that body style came with. LS6 is really nothing special. A modded LS1 will edge it out. Only a few minor differences in an LS6 and an LS1 and yes I know that ACTUAL differences. A modded LS1 even lightly, will be faster than a stock(sounding anyway) LS6 CTS-v.
I'll see your lightly modded LS1 TA/SS and raise you 1 lightly modded LS6 CTS-V!!! By the way 13tomabram is correct in saying the money game is stupid! 50K also goes for brand/product and all the bells and whistles that come with it... I plan on trading/selling my 05 V for a LSA once I get her paid off! That means I would be able to put 15-20K towards the cost of my LSA (6speed)V and have a BEAUTIFUL car payment...
illinisb if that was an LS6 than that CTS-V would have been a spec in the distance. You can't even compare the WS6 to the new CTS-V. If the guy in the WS6 raced the new CTS-V than it would be a VERY different race the caddi would pull on the WS6 and leave it in the dust. The caddi in this video was the older CTS-V wich had the LS2. You can very easily tell the new CTS from the older ones.
@lilsuper2335 my '98 z28 with lid and headers put down 317rwhp, roughly 350 at the crank, and weighs 3400lbs. the cts-v has 400 crank hp and weighs 3850. this race makes ense.
@Quatermain98526 The CTS-V in this video is from 2004-2007, so it had the naturally aspirated LS6 or LS2, which are both rated at 400-horsepower. I know this because the styling changed after 2007, and also because I'm not an idiot.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
HA HA, I see the level of education to acquire a POS GM vehicle has not changed much. GM-government motors-cannot survive on their own=piece of shot poor quality slow cars driven by highly educated GED graduates .
It's funny how you can tell that from a video.. HA HA, wow you're a character, guess you haven't seen the new CTS-V kill an M5 or the ZR1 go against a Lambo..
GM actually makes some decent cars now and I'm trading an Audi RS4 for an CTS-V and will probably trade my A4 for a Ford SHO, both of which are classy cars
That must suck to see your countries cars doing so well, despite your best efforts to talk as much shit as possible to the contrary and wish for their demise.. You should be ashamed
um wrong the new cts-v fckd da M5 up da ass and spit on it. check for yourself, zr1 ate the lambo to sorry check for urself. GM's on da ball jus be glad that amercian car companies finally have the right idea whoooo hoooo go america!! lol
You certainly like to talk shit on youtube. This is the 3rd video in a row that I've seen you talk about "POS" cars. When you own a car, then you can try and talk shit. But until then, shut the fuck up.
LOL @ planeman223 and exBMRguy.. GM isn't really going out of business cuz of their cars, its cuz of this recession and its not only here its spreading among other countries as well, you stupid fucks. GM has been making much better cars than BMW so don't be hating on American cars and giving that excuse about their bankruptcy.. Name a BMW that can beat the ZR1 performance-wise? Your BMWs are all luxyry kinda of cars with a tiny bit of performance, period. Im just stating the facts here.
too bad people can't just like all good cars. don't get me wrong, my personal preference is for the sound, presence and drama of an american, V8 powered car... but how can you not completely respect what the germans do with their cars? they set the benchmark that GM is now shooting for (and past, in the case of the newest CTS-V!)
well planeman bmw is down 45 percent from last year. im a manager at a bmw store . gm is shit dont get me wrong. the cts v was not and will never be redemption for gm. but bmw is on its way as well if the economy persists. u can keep shitting on people with "my dick is bigger than yours" routine but the fact is bmw is close to the same demise as well. besides this was supposed to be a simple vette vs cts video. so go ahead and reply w some smart ass remark u internet gangsta!!!!
Are you really serious? GM is going out of business you dumb shit. Where do you get your information from that in any way would lead to General Motors being more advanced than BMW?
LOL @ planeman223 and exBMRguy.. GM isn't really going out of business cuz of their cars, its cuz of this recession and its not only here its spreading among other countries as well, you stupid fucks. GM has been making much better cars than BMW so don't be hating on American cars and giving that excuse about their bankruptcy.. Name a BMW that can beat the ZR1 performance-wise? Your BMWs are all luxyry kinda of cars with a tiny bit of performance, period. Im just stating the facts here.
cts-v !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! owned by a trans am !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is this real or something??? cuz one of my friends talks all the time about the CTS-V but i didn't believe that!!!
BMW makes a nicely styled car, but quality is suspect and expensive to work on. Trust me. Besides all of the recent news on the CTS v put it ahead of the m5 is most all categories.
Except interior, history and reliability. The M5 has been around for decades and has tons of history and following, the CTS-V was a last chance effort to keep GM from going bankrupt lmao.
I respect your arguements planemane because i agree with you in some aspects. I don't think BMW is shitty, BUT if you think the CTS-V was an effort to keep GM in business, then thats not true at all. How would a limited production car keep the largest manufacturing car company from going out of business. GM makes more money out of entry level sedans than they do the CTS-V. Again I am not hating so don't reply with "fuck you man you know nothing", simply replying with a resourceful comment.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
the m5 is so much better than the cadillac, its in a much higher class, thats why its 40,000 dollars more. Bang for your buck the cadillac is a better deal and the LS motor is excellent, however its still a GM cheap plastic shitty interior. The M5 is a total different and better animal.
The CTS-V is also very tuned for handling too. Not to mention on a much newer chasis. OMFGORZ CTS-V EATS TEH M5 on teh NURBURGRING! BMWS kan't hande eether! As far as the F bodies can't handle, you didn't follow SCCA T2 much did you?
2009 w/ 556hp and 550 foot pounds of torque. and it was 04 thru 07 at 400hp, none made for 08. And the 04 thru 05 w/ LS6 and 06 thru 07 w/ LS2. and in regards to the LS6 being a stronger motor then the LS2 w/ 430hp for 05!!! no proof of that, as they have identical stats... Ls2 has higher compression to take more boost as the LS6 has lower compression and cant handle it as well...
You're definitely wrong on your assumption that T/A's can't take a corner. You've clearly never driven an F-Body or you would know how well the car actually does handle. The car hugs the road with no problem because of its almost perfect center of gravity.
And the CTS-V wouldn't take an F-Body around a track just due to the weight factor. More weight means more G's, which results in slower turns, turning into slower corner exiting speeds and less top end. More space is needed to slow down too
i got a 99 t/a and a 05 ctsv and the t/a feels like our old farm truck compared to my v...
and jsut so you no the v might be a touch heavey for the track but the brembos do a great job of stopping this car... so you my friend dont no your ass form a hole in the ground... have you ever drove a v casue your statements about them blow... make like micheal jackson and beat it punk...
Also, Stock to stock, both the CTS-V and the WS6 would be a drivers race with the CTS "possibly" traping 1mph or so higher. Both cars are documented high 12/low 13 second cars. Stick to SVT's buddy
The CTS-V has a very potent 400hp+ LSX motor. The same engine that goes into the SRT-8 Charger. Don't try to play it off like some sedan beat an LS1 Trans-am. Those are 40K cars and with over 400hp they should keep pace with a stock LS1.
Plus, LS1 cars dyno 290-315 hp, so most are actually 325-340 bhp.
Power to Weight can't tell you everything, but it can tell you alot. The fact is, the CTS-V is a few tenths quicker in the 1/4. Look it up. I drive a WS6, but if I could afford to, I'd have a CTS-V too.
whats with all this pushrod on pushrod violence :(
codeeLS6 3 months ago
@codeeLS6: lol Would you rather them have a Ford in there as well?
V8Supercar1 1 month ago
I have an 06 CTS 3.6, and no that body style was never supercharged
chrisjana75 3 months ago
Not this ctsv. the newer ones
FSEVENMAN 4 months ago
556 horse on the CTSV dumbass..
FSEVENMAN 4 months ago
mods on ws6??
MrWagonofdeath 5 months ago
@lt1hillinghoe its possible to hit 11s with bolt ons with an 03-04 cobra these engines respond well to any mod so full exhaust pulley and tune its putting down at least 440rwhp
FordGTmustang2000 7 months ago
ya this trans am has more than just a few bolt ons.....
p8ntballer55 9 months ago
good run between a lightly bolted ls1 and a cts-v. as for this funny argument going on lol, yea a stock 03/04 cobra is capable of a 12.8 . a pullied and fully bolted cobra will run a high 11 with sticky tires. Its been done many times before. terminators pick around 100 hp on tha stock blower with bolt ons, and upper and lower pullies.
rahu8670 11 months ago
@rahu8670 thank you for helping clear this up, idk why ppl tink im lieing wen i say wht i run
cosmo0223 10 months ago
@cosmo223, Thats awesome you have a Terminator what color is yours? I have always wanted one and now have the money to buy one. I really want Mystic blue,but the one bright red color would be baddass too! Not sure the color name.
wesleymattison00 11 months ago
@wesleymattison00 i have a torch red 2004 cobra, it doesnt matter the color you will be satisfied no mater what..
cosmo0223 10 months ago
Children...........it will be ok, calm down now!
peterock1313 1 year ago
my 04 cobra woulda killed the v even if it was stock
cosmo0223 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 omg why do people have to say stuff like that
joeympower 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 Hahahahahaha......but the V would have to be towing a 10,000 lb. trailer at that exact moment.
LT1HILLINGHOE 1 year ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE um/ no if thats all the cts-v did against a ws6 my cobra would have no trouble.. i like the cts-v but its way too heavy..... w bolt ons my cobra does 12.1 at the track on stock tires
cosmo0223 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 If you have a "bolt on" '04 cobra that turns a 12.1 on stock tires at the track, then I would call the Smithsonian in D.C. and donate that one of a kind for future generations to view.
LT1HILLINGHOE 1 year ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE .
,,, you obviously have no clue about 03-04 cobra's,, when i ran 12.1 i only had a magnaflow cat back/ upper pulley/ and a tune. now i also have an x pipe and cai so i should be able to do even better now...... i ran 12.8 in my car totally stock!
cosmo0223 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 Yeah....no clue here LOLOLOLOL Seven or eight around here, including a "terminator" lol that have gotten their butt handed to them in several different of my cars by yours truly, but no clue here. Hahahaha Wait a minute.....12.80 stock!!! Bwahahahahahhahaha Good one!!!! Gotta run now....You keep that big bad horse snake with all that speedy powa between the ditches.
LT1HILLINGHOE 1 year ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE .. and wat car did u beat a tremi in ? im in south jersey where u at ? mabye we can meet up and race..... if u look it up a stock terminator is supposed to do about 12.9 stock and mabye better w a good driver.. "myself" wich i got 12.8... ////12.8 somthing .. it was somwhere betwenn 12.81 or 12.89.... mabye u should research before u speak
cosmo0223 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 Hahaha....yeah....I am going to research it. Putting 2 car lengths on one in the quarter just isn't enough research. LOL whatever you say, kid. And I don't meet up with anyone....if you want to run it wait until the Spring when my local track opens up and then I'll lay the smack down on you. Not for free though. So if you wanna talk big and lay down a challenge bring a 4 figure amount of money with you. Make sure you can spare it. I don't feel good about taking your rent money.
LT1HILLINGHOE 1 year ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE ..u still have yet to tell me wat car u have that u supposedly beat a terminator with... and u have yet to research 03-04 cobra.. ur to busy telling me wat my car can and cant do.
cosmo0223 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 Grow up, kid. I don't have time for your childish antics. If you want to run anything I got and lose your money then let me know, if not, then keep all your childish games to yourself. You look foolish. 'Nuff said and have a nice life.
LT1HILLINGHOE 1 year ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE . calling me kid withought know anything about me and telling me how ull beat me if i wanna race when u refuse to tell me what car u drive? yeah im playing childish games..... fact is i will race u if u actually have a car worth racing.. but since u dont have a car that ur proud enough to talk about on here proves ur full of bull/ ur just some guy that that goes page to page and talks big wen u have nothing to back it up. at least research before u talk about stuff buddy
cosmo0223 1 year ago
@cosmo0223 not that i care at all, but his name is LT1 so i mean you can assume for the most part what car he has man. Otherwise continue as you two will
DDragonn01 11 months ago
@DDragonn01 ,, sure i can assume he has an lt1 but he has yet to mention it, must be embarrased
cosmo0223 10 months ago
Those CTS-V's are Bad ass rides...
scott93257 1 year ago
look, the driver of the trans am took a bit to long to shift thru those gears...you would have gained much more time if you had shifted much faster...
Rippingsax1 1 year ago
Those LS6 CTS-V's are really pesky to put away. Just when you think you might be pulling away the fucker's top end power kicks in and he pulls on you. The performance on those is impressive given its 3800+ LB curb weight.
Ensilvanation 1 year ago
They shouldve kept going..
titogcuban 1 year ago
I beat a cts with my 2003 gs eclipse lol but I am running 20 psi
nevergobroke559 1 year ago
@nevergobroke559 a cts...not ctsv
joeympower 1 year ago
stock ws6 ls1 is 346hp.
2100watson 1 year ago
@2100watson stock WS6 is rated at 325 firehawks were rated at 335 or 345 cant remember but ws6 puts down around 300 on a dyno
trans275 1 year ago
Fuck both of these cars! I'm broke.
papayspeanut 1 year ago
Your so stupid. if that were the new cts-v there would be no competition that's just the 400 and something horse cts probably a 2005 model
fordspankinggm 1 year ago
I beat my home boys cts-v everytime with my 02 z28 there fast but not that fast and I'm stock but anyways chevy over caddy
chevyking98 1 year ago
@chevyking98 A older model cts-v or the new ones? Your boy cant drive worth a fuck if he gets beat by a 300hp ls1 car. The cts-v barly weights more and has 556hp.
504stunta 1 year ago
@504stunta that is not the 556hp model CTS. It wasn't till 09 that the caddis were pushing over 500 out of the factory and that car in the video is an older body. It is 2004-2007 body style so it has 400 hp from the factory. The WS6 is not stock either so it is probly pushing more than 300hp. The caddis doesn't really shine till you put it on a track with some turns on it. That is where they are designed to stand out.
Southernsoldier83 1 year ago
@chevyking98 Video or it never happened.
davidmerriss 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@chevyking98
you are full of shit
jabba12000 1 year ago
you should race the tran am w. a 09 V . and cee whut happens .
dizzie6275 1 year ago
@dizzie6275 LOL I was going to ask what year the CTS-V was because I saw this on my phone but came home and watched it and realized it was the older V. A lot of people don't know the 556hp CTS-V is so new because we all see the older models more often
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
@dizzie6275 might as well race a grand caravan against a viper then cuz a 4th gen t.a. with light mods would never touch a new v...thats why this was a good race cuz they were comparable cars performance wise
cordova821 1 year ago
Comment removed
runninfoo398 1 year ago
@runninfoo398 what do you consider a fast car thats rare?
Fckinownist 1 year ago
Comment removed
runninfoo398 1 year ago
@runninfoo398 common? kick ass and cheep to buy therefor common.20 grand less than an M5 or should I say ///m looser
sirlonghair 1 year ago
nice run! what were the mods on the WS6 ?
maxspeed96ct 1 year ago
Oh, that's my bad I posted it like 10 times thinking it wasnt working correctly. I see what you are talking about now. That was my mistake, I was omitting the LS2 CTS's. My apologies to the all knower's of youtube!
1970judge 1 year ago
Comment removed
1970judge 1 year ago
I'm an idiot? Go to page two of this video's comments and see what has been posted. Someone said put that trans am up against the NEW CTS-V that is equipped with the LSA engine "and see what happens". To which I replied, then let me dump equal amount of money into the T/A as one would spend on said LSA equipped CTS. Which part of that makes me an idiot?
1970judge 1 year ago
I don't doubt that car can run a 14.0. That's not that fast of a time, anyway, so why would anyone doubt it? If you were claiming a 13.0, then it would be suspect, but a 14.0 is perfectly doable with that car, engine and mods. I love how others always claim it can't be done, even when those of us have done it...
marcomariaz26 2 years ago
haha, well i guess i need to hire a guy like you to do work on my cars...because it seems that the laws of physics seem to stop existing in your garage, and the track you go to--and you can make cars go FAST with 3 or 4 minor mods....heavy lincon runnin 14.0 with no DR radials or any significant mod...yeah sure buddy.....dreram on.
juanacious 2 years ago
dude, not even a LX mustang which is a hell lot lighter than the mk7 run 14.0 with just--pullies,cai,e-fans,and cat delete would run that....not with aod...MAYBE a 5speed...MAYBE. the ford aod trans is very clumsy and the torque conv is not tuned for performance...its tuned for economy. there's no way you can run 14 flat with that car. 15 flat is more appropriate.
juanacious 2 years ago
If youre talking about the v2 versus the c5 the I'd go with the 09 V
manny300zx 2 years ago
cts v or a c5 vette? cant decide which one i want
IMfckinDIESEL 2 years ago
cts v off top for 10,000 reasons
buy it, get an wait4me ECU upgrade for $350
-watch your ctsv do 0-60 in 3.5 sec
-watch it top out well over 200mph
-watch it have well over 600 horses
UFCextra 2 years ago
sweet ws6 always wanted one
jamesm00769 2 years ago
wow thats a fast caddy im very impressed nice job!!
fordklr350 2 years ago
damn I was barely thinking of trading in my T/A for a CTSV from this year, but nah, I'll just look for a newer Trans Am
ZR1Terror 2 years ago
put it up against a CTS-V LSA and see what happens.
13tomabram 2 years ago
Yeah and then dump as much money into the trans am as it would cost to purchase that cadillac and see how far that 550horsepower takes you.
1970judge 2 years ago
here we go with the money game now. So I guess the TA is better than a Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti and any other car because you can use that money to put into it.
You said a VERY dumb thing......
13tomabram 2 years ago
Let's see, so you go buy a cadillac for upward into the 50 thousand's and I can pick up a trans am for 10 easily. That leaves me with roughly 40,000 left over. If it were my goal in life to race and beat a CTS-V LSA car, as stated by the original poster i commented to, yes that 40,000$ left over from purchase can be used to be better and faster that the cadillac. Don't get me wrong, I would not do this, I would find a better way to spend 50k than on a trans am.
1970judge 2 years ago
well than I will just buy a honda for $500 and put that extra $9500 into it and SMOKE your TA. How stupid do you sound???
13tomabram 2 years ago
Not very, power to weight ratio with the correct engine combination/turbo the power to weight ratio could easily surpass a trans am. It's all about $'s spent. If I spent 10k on a trans am and you bought a 500$ civic and dumped 9500 into it, I would call it a win in your favor.
1970judge 2 years ago
well then lets compare stock for stock. The $ game is bullshit.
13tomabram 2 years ago
@13tomabram stock for stock...you mean your honda that goes 0-60 in 10 seconds compared to the trans am that goes 0-60 in 5.2? yeah, there's a good one to compare....its all about money invested. you pay 10k for a car, there is a reason for it. because it performs. you pay $500 there is a reason for it...someone just wants it the hell off their driveway. you spend $9500 on it, it will be a bit better than the trans am, depends on what you spend it on too dont forget.
timmypstyle 2 years ago
@timmypstyle
First off moron im not poor like you and drive a fucking honda.
Second, nice try comparing cars that are stock to cars that have work dont to them. If you want to go that route then I will just go spend HALF of what you spend on ANY car and smoke the shit out of you with a bike. We can keep playing these games all day.
13tomabram 2 years ago
@13tomabram wow, you can do a backround check on youtube? first off, i never EVER owned a honda, did have a trans am a few years back. and dude, you cant even comprehend what i said. you said if you buy a honda for $500 and put $9500 into it, it will beat a $10k trans am. i was just saying that you are spending $10k either way and thats the 2nd part i was comparing. but good luck on learning to read when you go back to school and its pretty sad that people actually get mad on youtube. get a life
timmypstyle 2 years ago
@timmypstyle
Well moron the point is you and all these other turds are fucking comparing a stock car to a non stock car. Fucking retarded just like you.
13tomabram 2 years ago
@timmypstyle
And guess your so lame you have to comment on my comment that was over TWO months ago. LOL!!
13tomabram 2 years ago
@13tomabram Dude you sound like a douche bag. "I'll race you on my bike." Bikes are for pussies that cannot afford to mod a car. Keep pouring fried rice into your V-tac Honda.
GXPFiend 2 years ago
@GXPFiend
Cant afford a mod car? Yeah right. I have several cars that are all over $50K each. So nice logic moron. You fail.
13tomabram 2 years ago
Yea ok great. But anybody that says they will race a car with a bike is a pussy.
GXPFiend 2 years ago 10
@GXPFiend
no a pussy is you morons comparing modded cars. That means nothing. WHo ever has the most money wins. Nothing to do with the car. DUMB!!
13tomabram 2 years ago
@GXPFiend i just dont see the point of the race at all,
DDragonn01 11 months ago
@1970judge its a luxury 4 door car and its fast at the same time i think they are both different cars with same and different purposes...
Soulscarz 1 year ago
@1970judge ---yeah but those T/A's are no slouch when it came to the sticker price man...older yes but NOT cheap by any means!!! BUT you do have a good point!
rockhopperz93xeedmax 1 year ago
It is an LS6. How do I know you ask? That is the only engine that body style came with. LS6 is really nothing special. A modded LS1 will edge it out. Only a few minor differences in an LS6 and an LS1 and yes I know that ACTUAL differences. A modded LS1 even lightly, will be faster than a stock(sounding anyway) LS6 CTS-v.
1970judge 2 years ago
I'll see your lightly modded LS1 TA/SS and raise you 1 lightly modded LS6 CTS-V!!! By the way 13tomabram is correct in saying the money game is stupid! 50K also goes for brand/product and all the bells and whistles that come with it... I plan on trading/selling my 05 V for a LSA once I get her paid off! That means I would be able to put 15-20K towards the cost of my LSA (6speed)V and have a BEAUTIFUL car payment...
adanieljohnson1 2 years ago
@1970judge you sir, are an idiot. The LS6 stopped production in 2006. The 2006 and 2007 model cts-v's both came with the LS2.
RADEoN1337 1 year ago
Comment removed
1970judge 1 year ago
Comment removed
1970judge 1 year ago
Comment removed
1970judge 1 year ago
Comment removed
1970judge 1 year ago
trans am sounds sweet, gotta work on faster shifts tho, not putting u down caz i need to get better at quicker shifting...lol good win tho
chainsawmanny 2 years ago
that was a nice race and that WS6 sounded bad ass.
workensmart 2 years ago 3
they both sound badass
19shawn85 2 years ago
yea I guess so but I could not hear the CTS-V over the trans am. but yea the LS2 sounds just as good as the LS1.
workensmart 2 years ago
that was a race not about what sounded louder or better.
ultogamma 2 years ago
@workensmart
how do you know thats not an ls6
illinisb 2 years ago
illinisb if that was an LS6 than that CTS-V would have been a spec in the distance. You can't even compare the WS6 to the new CTS-V. If the guy in the WS6 raced the new CTS-V than it would be a VERY different race the caddi would pull on the WS6 and leave it in the dust. The caddi in this video was the older CTS-V wich had the LS2. You can very easily tell the new CTS from the older ones.
workensmart 2 years ago
and yea I said "very easily" , great grammar on my part LOL.
workensmart 2 years ago
@workensmart slightly modded my ass. can you say cam? but both are bad ass cars
lilsuper2335 1 year ago 9
@lilsuper2335 my '98 z28 with lid and headers put down 317rwhp, roughly 350 at the crank, and weighs 3400lbs. the cts-v has 400 crank hp and weighs 3850. this race makes ense.
hipnaughtic 8 months ago
@hipnaughtic The CTS-V has the 6.2 supercharged engine, it makes 550HP. You're an idiot.
Quatermain98526 7 months ago
@Quatermain98526 The CTS-V in this video is from 2004-2007, so it had the naturally aspirated LS6 or LS2, which are both rated at 400-horsepower. I know this because the styling changed after 2007, and also because I'm not an idiot.
hipnaughtic 7 months ago 4
@hipnaughtic Yeah, you are right.
Quatermain98526 5 months ago
@Quatermain98526 not until after 07.... IDIOT
Thatneonguy 3 months ago
@Thatneonguy I already admitted I was wrong.
Quatermain98526 3 months ago
@lilsuper2335 can you say cutout
91lxstang 5 months ago
@workensmart Whats mods are done to the ws6?
BBBSCHOTT 10 months ago
@BBBSCHOTT I have no idea. Its not my video and not my car lol.
workensmart 10 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
HA HA, I see the level of education to acquire a POS GM vehicle has not changed much. GM-government motors-cannot survive on their own=piece of shot poor quality slow cars driven by highly educated GED graduates .
exBMRguy 2 years ago
It's funny how you can tell that from a video.. HA HA, wow you're a character, guess you haven't seen the new CTS-V kill an M5 or the ZR1 go against a Lambo..
GM actually makes some decent cars now and I'm trading an Audi RS4 for an CTS-V and will probably trade my A4 for a Ford SHO, both of which are classy cars
That must suck to see your countries cars doing so well, despite your best efforts to talk as much shit as possible to the contrary and wish for their demise.. You should be ashamed
captain256 2 years ago 2
um wrong the new cts-v fckd da M5 up da ass and spit on it. check for yourself, zr1 ate the lambo to sorry check for urself. GM's on da ball jus be glad that amercian car companies finally have the right idea whoooo hoooo go america!! lol
IceCold314 2 years ago 2
With a comment such as yours, its apparent that education wasn't a factor for you either.
tjohanson 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Haha! Why doesn't GM just go away so a real american car company could take its place !
B0rnAl0neDieAl0ne 2 years ago
shut the fuck up ex bmr suck my dick
greenglassofwater 2 years ago
Two POS garage cars made from a bankrupt company requiring government money to survive. What a bunch of losers. GM =welfare losers.
exBMRguy 2 years ago
your a fuckin losser drop dead fagot.
badastro1998 2 years ago
You certainly like to talk shit on youtube. This is the 3rd video in a row that I've seen you talk about "POS" cars. When you own a car, then you can try and talk shit. But until then, shut the fuck up.
iZ28LS7 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
LOL @ planeman223 and exBMRguy.. GM isn't really going out of business cuz of their cars, its cuz of this recession and its not only here its spreading among other countries as well, you stupid fucks. GM has been making much better cars than BMW so don't be hating on American cars and giving that excuse about their bankruptcy.. Name a BMW that can beat the ZR1 performance-wise? Your BMWs are all luxyry kinda of cars with a tiny bit of performance, period. Im just stating the facts here.
xj220se 2 years ago
too bad people can't just like all good cars. don't get me wrong, my personal preference is for the sound, presence and drama of an american, V8 powered car... but how can you not completely respect what the germans do with their cars? they set the benchmark that GM is now shooting for (and past, in the case of the newest CTS-V!)
lateloop 2 years ago
Those CTS-Vs are pretty ballsy
mcc78405 2 years ago
Comment removed
mcc78405 2 years ago
well planeman bmw is down 45 percent from last year. im a manager at a bmw store . gm is shit dont get me wrong. the cts v was not and will never be redemption for gm. but bmw is on its way as well if the economy persists. u can keep shitting on people with "my dick is bigger than yours" routine but the fact is bmw is close to the same demise as well. besides this was supposed to be a simple vette vs cts video. so go ahead and reply w some smart ass remark u internet gangsta!!!!
radarsback 2 years ago
well i am a t/a guy and the trans am done very well but the new cts-v would own it..
and btw bmw = shit , bmw is nothing nere cadillac in any way =D
dt262 2 years ago 2
Are you really serious? GM is going out of business you dumb shit. Where do you get your information from that in any way would lead to General Motors being more advanced than BMW?
planeman223 2 years ago
Not out of business, bankrupt. They'll still make cars, better ones now that they got rid of the crap/people that made em go bankrupt.
tjohanson 2 years ago
You still did not give examples of GM being more advanced than BMW. I am still waiting. Unitl then..
Suck me off.
planeman223 2 years ago
Lets see, how about the corvette zr1 or the new cadi cts-v , they all dominate against shitty german cars..
and they sure are much more reLiabLe so fucku asshole .|. so instead of hating try Learning a coupLe of things off the internet..
dt262 2 years ago
As soon as you said shitty german cars, myself and everyone who read your comment has just lost all respect for you and your opinion.
planeman223 2 years ago
LOL @ planeman223 and exBMRguy.. GM isn't really going out of business cuz of their cars, its cuz of this recession and its not only here its spreading among other countries as well, you stupid fucks. GM has been making much better cars than BMW so don't be hating on American cars and giving that excuse about their bankruptcy.. Name a BMW that can beat the ZR1 performance-wise? Your BMWs are all luxyry kinda of cars with a tiny bit of performance, period. Im just stating the facts here.
xj220se 2 years ago
kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai
cts-v !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! owned by a trans am !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is this real or something??? cuz one of my friends talks all the time about the CTS-V but i didn't believe that!!!
YXMAZY 2 years ago
new cts-v would've pwned
b00stedrust 2 years ago 2
Damnit Cadillac..As If Old People Really Need To Drive That Fast
DavidSuddeth 3 years ago 2
BMW makes a nicely styled car, but quality is suspect and expensive to work on. Trust me. Besides all of the recent news on the CTS v put it ahead of the m5 is most all categories.
Revax30 3 years ago 5
Except interior, history and reliability. The M5 has been around for decades and has tons of history and following, the CTS-V was a last chance effort to keep GM from going bankrupt lmao.
planeman223 2 years ago
gm is up there with toyota in terms of reliability how is a performance cts going to save them?
randomguyfromtexas 2 years ago
Maybe you haven't read the news about BMW...If they want to survive they WILL have to merge with another automaker. If not then bye bye BMW
cozzey05 2 years ago
I respect your arguements planemane because i agree with you in some aspects. I don't think BMW is shitty, BUT if you think the CTS-V was an effort to keep GM in business, then thats not true at all. How would a limited production car keep the largest manufacturing car company from going out of business. GM makes more money out of entry level sedans than they do the CTS-V. Again I am not hating so don't reply with "fuck you man you know nothing", simply replying with a resourceful comment.
LamboWINS 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the m5 is so much better than the cadillac, its in a much higher class, thats why its 40,000 dollars more. Bang for your buck the cadillac is a better deal and the LS motor is excellent, however its still a GM cheap plastic shitty interior. The M5 is a total different and better animal.
steezyone123 3 years ago
cadillac have really nice interiors. and to me they are a better deal than a bmw, BMW are great cars but you mostly pay for the badge.
SpyderRios 3 years ago 16
The CTS-V is also very tuned for handling too. Not to mention on a much newer chasis. OMFGORZ CTS-V EATS TEH M5 on teh NURBURGRING! BMWS kan't hande eether! As far as the F bodies can't handle, you didn't follow SCCA T2 much did you?
etb4u 3 years ago
BMW aint got shit on CADILLAC
rmcubssuck35 3 years ago 15
Cabbeys are pretty quick now days. Still comes down to power to weight!
apexak 3 years ago 2
550 hp for the 09. 05-07 was 400, with the 05 being more like 430.
johntvette 3 years ago
2009 w/ 556hp and 550 foot pounds of torque. and it was 04 thru 07 at 400hp, none made for 08. And the 04 thru 05 w/ LS6 and 06 thru 07 w/ LS2. and in regards to the LS6 being a stronger motor then the LS2 w/ 430hp for 05!!! no proof of that, as they have identical stats... Ls2 has higher compression to take more boost as the LS6 has lower compression and cant handle it as well...
adanieljohnson1 3 years ago
LS2 has a broader trq curve, overall higher average power output on the dyno
DarkLinkAD 3 years ago
you want lower comp if you're going to be running boost...
aleks6989 2 years ago
Uh, engines designed to be boosted, have lower compression.
LS6 revs highers, and consistently outperforms the LS2 on Chasis dynos.
johntvette 2 years ago
owned
joelopes23 3 years ago
The CTS-V certainly outhandles the F-body cars. The V was designed with Nurburgring in mind.
johntvette 3 years ago 2
You're definitely wrong on your assumption that T/A's can't take a corner. You've clearly never driven an F-Body or you would know how well the car actually does handle. The car hugs the road with no problem because of its almost perfect center of gravity.
And the CTS-V wouldn't take an F-Body around a track just due to the weight factor. More weight means more G's, which results in slower turns, turning into slower corner exiting speeds and less top end. More space is needed to slow down too
Vipervenomsrt 3 years ago
i got a 99 t/a and a 05 ctsv and the t/a feels like our old farm truck compared to my v...
and jsut so you no the v might be a touch heavey for the track but the brembos do a great job of stopping this car... so you my friend dont no your ass form a hole in the ground... have you ever drove a v casue your statements about them blow... make like micheal jackson and beat it punk...
badass77bowtie 3 years ago 2
i wanna see a stroked/head/cam/supercharged cts v someday
praetorian2150 3 years ago
Also, Stock to stock, both the CTS-V and the WS6 would be a drivers race with the CTS "possibly" traping 1mph or so higher. Both cars are documented high 12/low 13 second cars. Stick to SVT's buddy
lilbuddy1587 3 years ago
The CTS-V has a very potent 400hp+ LSX motor. The same engine that goes into the SRT-8 Charger. Don't try to play it off like some sedan beat an LS1 Trans-am. Those are 40K cars and with over 400hp they should keep pace with a stock LS1.
Plus, LS1 cars dyno 290-315 hp, so most are actually 325-340 bhp.
Very under-rated motors.
burnzillablue 3 years ago
The CTS-V has the LS6 the POS Charger DOESN'T come with a LS6 retard
19shawn85 3 years ago
yeah holy shit, i wanted to punch a baby when i read that. The srt-8 charger has a corvette z06 motor. lolol yeah buddy
vipeme1 3 years ago 2
lol, el stupidio
colejjones 3 years ago
ohh damn grandmas caddy keepin pace with a TA haha both are great cars anything done to them?
shalashaska91 3 years ago 3
i work at a cadillac/chevy dealer and cts-v's are no joke they are quick.. but that ws6 is fast too, good race
bluepig07 3 years ago 3
cts-v kept up pretty good for being a full size sedan
johnkimble2007 3 years ago
MID-size sedan
Crownedinworms 3 years ago
good race, would love to have either car, but i think there is more of an aftermarket for the t/a. Can't wait to see an 09 cts-v on the streets!
trackx07 3 years ago
the pretty evenly matched but the ws6 is a better car and it still won ta all the way baby
wrx4life44 3 years ago
trans am owns Cadillac but a cadi isnt a race car so i guess it did pretty good
scarification 4 years ago
The cts v in the video has 360rhp. The ws6 has 390rhp.
crtomlin1 4 years ago
??? What CTS-V only has 360hp?
johntvette 3 years ago
Do the math...
The WS6 is 3500 lb and has 320 HP.
The CTS-V is 3850 lb and has 400 HP.
3500/320 = 10.9 lb/hp for the WS6
3850/400 = 9.6 lb/ph for the CTS-V
Power to Weight can't tell you everything, but it can tell you alot. The fact is, the CTS-V is a few tenths quicker in the 1/4. Look it up. I drive a WS6, but if I could afford to, I'd have a CTS-V too.
BTW, nice cars, and nice race.
NFSPMotorsports 4 years ago
i got one for sale 2005 for 26,500 black fully loaded 41k miles.
santiagomel00 3 years ago
thats not a stock ws6 ive got one and i also have a cts v. both are stock except corsa on the V. no way for ws6 ot do it stock.
jc12131415 4 years ago
well assholes that v got more weight but also more power so in a sence its a even race..
everyone thins the heavier car is always gonna lose but they never put the specs into consideration...
xImFxToRqUe 4 years ago
nothin better than 2 ls engines tearin up the roads
gotta love that shit
kimber40 4 years ago 2
1/4 of a car lenght is hardly a win
eelash 4 years ago