I can admit that the earth is very old but life is sure not older than 10000 years old. Life is much younger than how evolutionists believe it is. In the bible it's written that God created the heavens and the earth. But I can believe that after that He took a break of a few billion years until He started to create life, meaning the vegetation, the animals and Adam and Eve.
He uses middle school text books because he was referring to what our children are being taught in public schools. If you were not trying to twist, what was being said you would have included that instead of trying to use it to prove a point. I take it back it is not clever enough (for someone that doesn't take out important parts of lectures). More like pathetic.
I live in a country that seems to have "outgrown" God, that has gotten us people being held without a chance of defense, criminals that break into peoples houses, injure themselves doing it then sue the people they were robbing, AND WIN. Then there is the lady at Macy's that got fired for not wanting to let a trans whatever into a female dressing room.
The majority of the stuff in the video is taken out of context to prove the point of the person that made this video. Same thing the "News" does these days. This is funny
@BigMrSox ***He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. LUKE 11:23. ***The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.PSALMS 19:1-3
@cto511987 As I said before: I am not religious, so your reciting of scripture has fallen on deaf ears. I sincerely stand by my conviction that the Bible/Religion is not compatible with science as the two are completely in contrast to one another.
I don't however have anything against religious people; if you find religion as being rewarding than so be it. But quoting versus from the Bible is a terrible way to reinforce your point.
@BigMrSox **Religion?? who said anything about religion. Tell me why you speak of deaf ears a as a virtue. So you consider yourself a wise man? Can you be honest with yourself? Let's see... take a look at this evidence and try not to be deaf....as how can you explore this world and discover truth if you decide to be deaf. If you value your eternal soul you would not take this so lightly. God Loves you.
@cto511987 You demonstrated your religious views when you replied to my initial comment by citing: "Luke 11:23, and Psalms 19:3...So don't try the: "what religion?" bullshit act!
As I said before: "Don't waste my time, unless you can bring something to the table".
Don't bullshit me again, please; I respect your faith (in all respects; aside from active worship), but it doesn't apply unless you can provide some tangible evidence.
I will fuck your religion by way of observation and math.
@BigMrSox Okay, I will provide tangible evidence. But my relationship with Jesus Christ is as much religion as a relationship with someone you love is religion. Will you look at this evidence for truth? But for your sake I will include this other link which would be of much profit to your soul. Please consider the implications.
There's a common fallacy that all Christians believe the earth is young. About 2/3 believe it is old. The fallacy is that if Hovand is wrong about the age of the earth, he is wrong about everything. Ask any philosophy teacher if that is a logical fallacy. You can be wrong about the age of the earth. But you can't be wrong about Christ.
"The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense."
Uuhh. I think the Bible has a much better explanation…
Please listen closely to what the Bible says regarding this very thing:
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” Rom 1:20
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.” John 3:36
Please accept Jesus today as your Lord and Savior if you want salvation.
And you know a documents age is accurate why? Because the document says so? Ok I have a piece of paper here - Someone has scribbled "God was here in the year of our me 95155 BC". That means that its the oldest document amirite?
wow, dodo, all your points are so weak,,, too bad he's in federal prison for not paying illegal income taxes or I would tell you to debate him,,, picks his oldest video,,,
Not to be a devils advocate but Evolution is a very broad term covering all those areas. Today when saying Evolution it is safe to assume it is the diversity of life explain via natural selection. Evolution itself means change and explanation for increasing steps to explain a simple system moving to a complex system.
The guy who came up with the laughable "water canopy theory" is an expert on science? I don't think so. Also he doesn't no the first law of thermodynamic. It says that ENERGY (not matter) can neither be created nor destroyed.
@ianman6. Apologies. I guess I should have worded it differently. I am currently doing some research in natural selection to explain it the right way. So, if I may ask, what exactly is natural selection? Is it a mysterious law of evolution? Or is it an actual sense in the brain of animals? Not sure. Don't worry. I'll figure it out since evolutionists can't get science right. They don't have the right theories so all most all of their work is a scam.
@dimsoneill. Natural selection is basically a "computer chip" encoded in animals genes to help them survive in different environments. They didn't give it to themselves. That would be IMPOSSIBLE!!!! If you were walking down the street and saw a penny on the ground. Would you come to the conclusion that it just magically appeared through a set of miraculous changes by itself? NO! You would presume that a person put it there.
@dimsoneill. Really? You don't have the slightest rebuttal to my question yet try to insult me about something I didn't ask. I am doing research in the evolution theory idiot. You are just like liberals. You know you've been beaten so you to attack a man personally like a child in a school yard. It's just the same old talking points.
He is quoting middle school books because middle school children are being taught that and tax payers expense. Besides that point how many different theories about the way the universe began are there? thousands and evolutionists debate among themselves as to the cause. They say "it's unknown".
God tells us that HE made the Universe on the very first sentence of the Bible.
@ILoveGodsWord413 "Thousands and [sic] evolutionists debate among themselves as to the cause" Umm, no. Evolutionists don't study the origin of the universe. Even if an evolutionary biologist said anything about the beginning of the universe, I wouldn't really care. I care what they would say about biology, though.
"God tells us that HE made the Universe on the very first sentence of the Bible." Yes, that is the first verse of the Bible. So what? How does that prove anything? It doesn't.
@ianman6 Pick up any high school or college Biology text book and look to see what evolution says about how we began. It states more than just evolution from ape to man or from soup to man, they have to also give an explanation of how the soup came to be or they have an uncompleted theory. Because if all you want to believe is that you came from soup then where did that come from?
You are telling me that you believe that matter (the stuff everything is made of) is in control.
@ianman6 Part 2. I am trying to tell you that there had to be an initial cause to everything outside of time, space and matter and that cause is God. He is separate from that because He created that. Therefor you cannot comeback the the question, "well where did God come from". Answer: He Himself made everything and is outside of time, space and matter. "In the beginning", there's time, "God created the Heavens", there's space, "and the Earth", there's matter.
@TheZooCrew I noticed you killing ILoveGodsWord so I figured I`d ask. A lot of people would serve themselves well by picking up a book and understanding what it is they are trying to debate. Anyways keep up the good work and keep doing what you are doing.
@ianman6 part 3. And since evolution is supported by tax payers money and taught as fact, then it is evolution, not creation which bears the burden of truth. They are the ones that have to explain the origin of time, space and matter and they will do everything they can to not include God in there thinking.
My point is this: The fact that God is mentioned in the first verse of the Bible means that He indeed is the one who created all these things.
Richard dawkins himself said that noone has ever observed changes on the macro level yet you hint that its possible to see such things. You say it is easier to observe micro meaning that macro is harder but yet still possible. What evidence do you have of this?
You say the first 3 were physics and your right but evolution is taught into physics.
If that is not true then why does magazines like Scientific American talk about the Big Bang to us.
@ILoveGodsWord413 "Richard dawkins himself said that noone has ever observed changes on the macro level" When? Citation please. 1 word: drosophilia. Ok 2 words: Podarcis sicula
"but evolution is taught into physics" What? Evolution has nothing to do with physics. You're just plain wrong here. Scientific American is a popular science magazine that publishes on all sorts of topics of scientific interest, including physics and evolutionary biology. That doesn't mean evolution and physics are tied.
Received his "Doctorate" from Patriot Bible College, a non-accredited diploma mill. Hovind's thesis on "Christian Education" was not peer reviewed and contains numerous grammatical and co9mmon spelling mistakes. Since 2007 he has been serving a 10 year prison term for tax fraud.
@wkreplin. I don't know math well. That doesn't make me stupid. I have plenty of common sense to know when something sounds dumb. You can try to out smart me but you will lose. You give me a question and I'll give you one. How could "prehistoric" man have drawn a pic of a dinosaur on the grand canyon wall if he'd never seen one?
@wkreplin. Haha. I'm a 9th grade highschool drop out. Theres obviously no way I could understand the big bang in a mathematical sense, but if it could be proven mathematically that the big bang happened I'm pretty sure there would be a big newspaper article about it, or something.
@monjaru. My point young man. So the big bang created space-time-matter? Okay. Answer me this, how could a big bang make all these things when it requires all of them to make a big bang?
@munkydragon. The "big bang" was just space-time expanding at a rapid rate correct? Well if space-time rapidly expanding caused the "big bang" then how could the "big bang" have created space-time. So if they made each other at the same time then obviously the "big bang" is a false theory. Well just proved the "big bang" theory wrong. Any other stupid questions from young minds?
@munkydragon. My school teacher didn't know anything either. She taught the Pangea theory (I'm sure you know the theory of the continents drifting). Thing is, I went to a Christian school. Haha. I urge you munkydragon, if you look at evolution as a theory instead of a fact you will see plenty of holes. Evolution has been around for 140 years and still hasn't made any progress in actually proving the theory.
Complete rubbish. Modern understanding of molecular biology has made huge advances in refining the theory of evolution via natural selection. And guess what, this new evidence fits extremely well with geological and phylogenetic evidence and patterns of distribution that support the theory. If you are going to debate the subject, at least take the time to learn a little about it.
@munkydragon. Haha. I'm making ridiculous statements? Creationists think time was made perfect in the beginning too. So you guys do agree on something.
You don't have to like science or be qualified in it to teach it. Just ask my high-school science teacher in private school. He was "certified" even though he wasn't certifiable. I bet he got his phD in a subject other than biology. It doesn't matter now. He's not smart enough to stay out of prison, so why would he be smart enough to teach science?
Someone please explain to me how time evolved? If the big bang theory happened that means time was there before that. So evolution actually started itself somehow. So evolution must be the first thing to evolve. So if evolution evolved then what made evolution evolve? Ha! Evolution. It answers everything! Man wish I was smart enough to come up with that. Oh wait! I did! I think I just evolved!
@acolony22 Time did not evolve. Evolution is biological change over time. Time's biology changes over time? Really? Learn something before you make ridiculous statements. Time as we know it most likely began with the big bang (our current system of seconds, minutes, and so forth). Evolution did start itself long after the big bang, time's beginning, and the formation of Earth. It led to organisms forming after Earth's formation to become more complex or well-suited to conditions over time.
@acolony22 I'll give you a real explanation of the big bang theory if you want it but it's of a fairly high level of mathematical sophistication. If you really want to know and aren't just trolling then message me an I will be more than forthcoming with the specifics of the theory. You're going to need to understand differential equations to get the jist of it and will need to know methods for solving fourth order Dif Eq via numerical methods to repeat the math yourself for our universe.
Received his "Doctorate" from Patriot Bible College, a non-accredited diploma mill. Hovind's thesis on "Christian Education" was not peer reviewed and contains numerous grammatical and co9mmon spelling mistakes. Since 2007 he has been serving a 10 year prison term for tax fraud.
Lets see, the theorum of evolution is the most proven theorum in all of science. More then 250,000 published, peer reviewed, verified papers have been written on it, in 150 years. Yet you say you can disprove it, please post the published (main stream media), peer reviewed, verified paper that does this.
@wkrepelin The word "theorum" is from Richard Dawkins. Theorem is a proven mathematical equation. He would like to use the theorum, to show that evolution is a not just a theory. Fronm "The Greatest Show on Earth". So I am going to keep using it till these folks get the idea that is not just a theory.
It's funny how a man with absolutely no credibility like this, can demolish evolution at every turn. It must only be those theories with some sort of evidence that can holdup to such a moron.
Why does Kent wear a lab coat ? Professor of Biology Dawkins doesn`t feel the need to do this? He looks like a guy trying to sell you Painkillers on TV
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@k12rising Man, I'm glad there is no entity to follow through with that command. Hovind almost makes me wish there were divine retribution because the twisted part of me would really enjoy seeing him get his.
The sad part of this video is that there is a great deal of stretching the truth on both sides. Hovind over stated some arguments of course, however this video is chock full of the same kind of bull from it`s editor. The only point that can be made here is that to fulfill their agenda everyone stretches the truth. Who is the most guilty perpetrator of lies here? Reality is " No man is righteous, not even one". And if "The truth will set you free" You wont find it here.
@Alverthorpe Other "convicted felons", Apostle Paul, John and John the Baptist, Peter. Need I go on? Fact is, all men and woman are sinners and have a deceitfully wicked heart. This is why Jesus is soooo important. He took our wickedness and applied it to Himself on calvarys cross, not willing that any should perish, but for all to come to repentance. If you were the only soul on the face of the earth, He'd still die in your place.
Who are these imaginary people he is having these "debates" with? Last time I heard Hovind on the radio he was up against Genie Scott (REAL scientist) and she ate him for lunch. I also notice that Hovind sucks at math. Every assertion he makes assumes everything changes at a linear rate. So basically he has a grasp of pre-algebra. Sheesh. People listen to this moron? He rapid fires one assertion after another and offers no proof of any of them. The stupid... it burns...
The creationism-evolution debate is irrelevant. We all want to 'feel good' and we all want 'to understand the world around us.' Some stress the former, some stress the latter. The divide has always existed and is as innate as left and right handedness. Then we all die and the universe moves on.
@hisnameisfrankie Beyond a point we all choose individually, you can't tell a man who perfers to feel good anything to increase understanding that will threaten his comfort zone, and you can't tell a man who prefers to understand anything to make him feel good that threatens understanding.
@hisnameisfrankie Perhaps problems arise when either view is taken to far or too seriously. We humans need to face reality, at the same time, some sense of purpose and aspiration to 'more' is needed to make the human condition bearable, perhaps even enjoyable.
Have you read Kent Hovinds dissertation? It is a mess and its laughable. Also he received it from a so called "diploma-mill university". I suggest you actually READ his dissertation and see for yourself.
@Laylow4now "Evolution is a lie from the mind of Satan." thats awesome, can i make a bumper sticker out of that? I will never have a fender bender again because people will be driven away by the stink of crazy
perfect? hell no. that's part of the definition of being human.
6000 years? yes, the earth IS 6000 years old... but it's also 500 years old, 23 years old, 1000000 years old... in short, the earth is every number of years old leading up to its ACTUAL age. 6000 years ago was not when everything magically appeared.
evolution is a rigourously tested idea that is universally accepted, and it will be until a better theory arises. creation isn't a theory: it's a myth.
@LeafyGreens7 ....Not magical, the Creator spoke it into existence. Magic is the manipulation of higher powers. God was not manipulating anything higher, He is the Source of all things. It is a big difference. "...And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Colossians 1:17
Yes, the Earth is 6000 years old. All the oldest relevant source documents tell us this. You don't have a single written document older than 6000 yrs. Big problem! Evolution rigorously tested? Oh please!
@Laylow4now You lost all credibility in your argument the second you started using the bible as a reference point. Also since when did the age of the oldest texts on the earth = the age of the earth? That's so stupid I don't know where to begin. Evolution has been proven as "Fact". Its still called a theory because it is still having information added to it as its discovered. Its only a technicality - evolution is fact. Read a science book sometime. You might learn something.
@Xellith ....The age of the oldest dated human document would be very important. It is a solid date that we can work with, instead of using supposition. It's not really stupid. It is good investigation. Also, the further we go back in time, the more the people all agreed that God created this earth. They disagreed at times on who God was, but they pretty much all agreed that God had made this Earth. Why? They were much closer than we are to the first eye-witnesses. Also, I do read science books.
"The age of the oldest dated human document would be very important. It is a solid date that we can work with, instead of using supposition."
Not exactly. Plus, you can't just explain away radiometric dating and dendrochronology and all evidence from geology and cosmology that the planet is 4.54 billion years old.
"Also, the further we go back in time, the more the people all agreed that God created this earth."
Nice try, Orwell. This isn't what happened at all.
"You don't have a single written document older than 6000 yrs."
We don't have a single written document older than 3500 years, but you'd be utterly stupid to assert that Earth is only 3500 years old. Of course, you ARE apparently utterly stupid, so you'll probably change your story.
"Evolution rigorously tested? Oh please!"
So the 290,000+ peer-reviewed publications on evolution just don't exist?
i still do not see how we can prove evolution by just saying it happened and it happens.one doesn't need to believe in a god to see that this evolution concept is bollocks.whoever made this video is a bit dense
@TacoBurgher327 Evidence? what evidence? i can wake up and say "becoz the sun burns so bright that means a god made it" there's your evidence. who was there to prove we all came from bacteria or whatever else we say we came from. evidence is not evidence just coz you say it is and just coz you CLAIM to be able to prove it.
@azraelblame We have shown the proof, and why we "believe" evolution happened, and you say, THAT"S NOT PROOF. DNA, RNA, transitional fossils, natural selection, the molecular record, The anatomical record, OBSERVING speciation, i mean the list goes on and on, yet, as you have already stated, there is no evidence.... what more do you want??
And quite honestly, if you want to claim something wrong, you must provide a BETTER explanation of the evidence..... god dun it ain't gonna cut it.......
@TacoBurgher327 see, you all keep saying the same thing and say it with such conviction, you talk about dna, rna fossils (and how you claim to tell the age of anything or origin thereof from looking at bones is stupefying) and all the other stuff you just listed, i think you need to go check the definitions again. ok lets make it easy, give me an example anybody has witnessed of something becoming something totally different, like cats becoming spiders, dont tell me bout adaptation.
@azraelblame scientists aren't claiming a cat becomes a spider. Never have. Maybe YOU should look up what evolution actually means. Do you HONESTLY think scientists say we get spiders from cats?? These are the most respected people on the planet and who work COUNTLESS hours determining reality from fiction. People who have cured countless diseases, allow you to live past 50, figured out the world wasn't flat, yet you think they would say "we get spiders from cats." Very ignorant on your part...
@azraelblame and we know through testing. Testing the fossils and the rock around the fossil. not just one test, 7 different test done, hundreds of samples are tested with 7 different methods of dating, giving you 7 independent numbers, and the numbers are relatively close, why can't you make an accurate guess at the date? DNA, chimp and human DNA, 95% similarity, why? Why doesn't evolution explain that for you? common decent. and we see the decent, back, and back, and back. Its all there......
No need to get all butt-hurt about Hovind debunking evolution. The New World Order already defamed him by a nonsensical IRS indictment. I hope those criminals do not consider their futile Satanic attack to be a victory.
Deus exastra, you need to know that Christians believe truth and where it's uncertain they should seek it with all their heart, strength, and soul. Do you actuall believe that being clever with words makes you correct? Does playing with words alter a single fact? See you comment from a week before this one.
Gorilla, you are obviously an emotional child so I do not want to upset you. When you leave school and start thinking for yourself you WILL understand a bit better. Please do not reply if you feel the need to be insulting, cheers mate
What a surprise you are a ignorant creatard who thinks the 6000 year old flat earth that sits on pillars doesnt move and the ark, flood and tower of bable was true! LOL
If your dumb enuff to believe hovind (Who even other creatards distance themself fom and say dont use such stupid claims as it embaressed and even insults other creatrds) then you could very well be a paranoid dellusional who believes in conspiracies.
You where to be xtian just like you where taught to be a conspiracist nut. You where not right int he head int he first palce, but if people didnt make up this crap yuou would not believe it!
The bible says 6000 years, how old do you think the earth is?
@gorilla199uncensored More boring chronic meaningless projections, incorrect too. Unimpressed. Not tired yet huh? I'm not sure how old the earth is. I'm not gonna speculate here. The bible is correct here and incorrect there and is allegorical other places. I hardly use it as scientific reference, in fact I bet I knock the good book more than you. Check out my Dennis McKinsey "holy poop" video - mild compared to things I've said. So put that in your proverbial projection pipe and smoke it.
@gorilla199uncensored Did you even read my last post? I said I don't follow scripture. I'm a non-Christian. Seeing you need to be told a dozen times, I'll let your grade three level brain rest from reading (or not reading in your case) any future responses. Seek help.
I am a Creationist but I watch videos like this to cover all the basis and refute these arguments against Creation. At 4:03 that is believable because I have talked to people before, had whole conversations, and didn't remember their names.
At 4:58 Hovind is saying that the professor gave a "standard textbook answer" just like the one found in that book. The book hovind is using is just an example that closely fits what the professor said.
"Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!" Hmm, dont Christians believe that they will live "forever" in heaven after they die? No wonder they act as if stupidity is a virtue, they just want to get into heaven and live forever. Well, congratulations Kent, your stupidity level has guaranteed you a long, long afterlife.
BTW I have an English education and have been taught to ask my own Q's. Not just the ones the teech asks! Not being inbred or stupid I am able to think, reason and derive a sensible and scientifically correct answer. Even when I do not like the answer!
Kent is actually right. His terminology is not according to current university wording, but essentially HE IS CORRECT! I have no fear of him and I will seek the facts. Why do so many Americans have fear of facts?
It appears atheists take the day off on FOOLS DAY. Ha...ha...ha..ha...haaa. My mail box is usually full with nasty comments and foolish rebuttals from atheists, but not today...LOL. Hmmm?
Ha ! too late I have a black belt in Aikido , which I studied for nearly twenty years. Mainly do TKD ( 5th Dan) because I get to punch teenagers in the face
Someone has too ! Cmon John Let me ask you , what is your evaluation of Kent`s Dissertation? Are you impressed with it as a document with which to confer the title "Doctor" on someone? Please answer.
I guess looking at all the refutations on YT which demolish Hovind have no effect on your view of him ?? How about this one. It is pretty good . Do you just dismiss them because is interferes with Planet Bible and therefore cannot be true
The government pushes evolution under the guise of science and says any scientist teaching about creation is teaching religion. So the government funds scientists and schools that teach evolution but won't fund teaching creation. Hovind says, "Ok, I'm teaching religion through my ministry which includes my religious theme park." According to tax law, his ministry is tax exempt. Seems the Gov is guilty of violating tax laws, conducting a color of law prosecution, and violating the constitution.
His qualifications are demonstrably bullshit . Have you seen his dissertation? There is no science in it ! It no way resembles a PhD dis. from a reputable source. Obvious to anyone who doesn`t have his head stuck in a Bible , desperate for a scientist to support their wretched medieval superstition , but they have to put up with lightweight hucksters like Kent ,who would be completely unable to engage professionaly with real scientists. Have you seen the cow shed that milled out his diploma?
I am in favour of churches paying taxes . American evangelical churches are famous the world over for being heavenly fat business. At least they would do some good if we taxed them. PS Evolution is science. Good science. The only people who dont believe that are religious fanatics (who are proven to not be as clever as scientists. The day America funds teaching creation is the day it slides into theocracy. We can see from the Iranian experience how cheerful that would be.
@ilikezappa: Get over it zappa. Churches have outreach programs and provide financial aid, meals, clothing, transportation, etc. to many needy people all over the world. Don't put all churches in the same basket as the FEW fraudsters, swindlers, hucksters, and charlatans you see on TV who turn the truth of God into a lie for personal benefit. They don't represent Christ.
@johnspartan98 I cant disagree with any of that . I dont believe in God , but I have some friends that I respect who are Christians and they do a lot for poor people. ( All of them think Genesis is just mythology and Kent Hovind is stupid) Its the assault on the beautiful US constitution and wonderful science by fundamentalists that I feel the need to defend, just like if Zombies were trying to break into your house NOOOOOAHS ARKNNNNN smash smaSh GLOBALLL FLLOOODDD NNNNNN aah there coming!
Patriot Bible University is authorized by the Colorado Commission of Higher Education as a seminary or Bible college. It's not a diploma mill. Besides, Hovind has been in more debates against evolutionists than anyone on the planet and he's won most, if not all, of them. That alone should qualify him for an honorary PhD. in the field of Science. Life experience and what you accomplish in the real world counts more than wallpaper or acronyms placed after your name anyway.
@johnspartan98 Yes "Seminary " or" Bible College" exactly my point . Somewhere with no scientific accreditation and no academic status. It also looks like a cow shed.Have you seen Kent`s dissertation? If you want a belly laugh , read it. The only times I have summoned up the patience to watch Kent "Debate" he comes acrross as an ignorant tool , who cannot defend his bullcrap honestly. Just calling yourself Dr and wearing a bogus labcoat only fools certain people.
@ilikezappa: Your arguments are ad hominem personal attacks against Hovind and mean nothing. If you think getting a PhD from any Bible College is a cakewalk then give it a try pal. You don't need to be an expert to argue against an evolutionist. All you need is the common sense of a 10 year old. Good luck with your denial and closed mind bud.
@johnspartan98 Yes , they are "ad Hominem" personal attacks because he as an individual is a charlatan who has bullshit qualifications and relies on the stupidity and ignorance of his audience to con them out of millions of dollars. Fortunately the IRS is not as dumb as the people he tries to sell his brand of pitiful science to and they put him where he belongs. I have seen his dissertation ,talking of the level of a ten year old. "I`d like to thank mummy.." what a dweeb
@ilikezappa: I already demonstrated that his qualifications are not bullshit. He is highly intelligent and articulate, and he raises people's thought processes and gives them some good information to ponder. The IRS in this case amounts to a few individuals(probably atheists) who's actions are due to their personal bias, probably because Hovind sued them in the past. Do you think the IRS is the good guy in this? DO you trust the IRS? You really are a FOOL and an IDIOT if you do.
After the flood the kangaroos " somehow became isolated" That is your explanation of the geographical diversity of modern species? All the pandas headed for china " cmon boys, this way... " sounds like you are an expert on being isolated
@ilikezappa: No one really knows for sure since no one is around who witnessed it. To say it could not be the result of all land masses being joined isn't science either. I see nothing strange with some animals being isolated and unique to certain parts of the world when there are reasonable explanations. It's not my field of expertise, nor do I care. It does not effect my spiritual growth one way or another. Nice spin kick, but blocked and countered pal. PS: Look up the "expanding earth" video.
@johnspartan98 You didn`t witness the American Civil War. How confident are you that it happened ?
Koala bears eat only a certain kind of Eucalypt found in Australia . Darwinian evolution perfectly explains why you dont find Koalas anywhere else ( or Wombats,pygmy possums , sugar gliders etc etc.) Your "Giant boat" story has some gaping holes in it dude
@johnspartan98 Doh that thing about the civil war was in response to you claiming if you weren`t there , you couldn`t prove something happened. You would make a shit scientist / historian. Better stick to mending Lawn Mowers , or whatever you do arf arf
PS We didn`t lose . It was a strategic withdrawal. We are sending you Prince Chuck to kick your asses next year
@ilikezappa: Dude, I think you have been punched in the head too many times. Try learning Aikido to prevent that from happening before it's too late for the remaining reasoning capacity you might have left.
ooh ooh I have a question ok what is it with this guy and 4400 years, even assuming that creationism is real we have wrtten records from civilizations going back a lot further than 4400 so why is he so obsessed with that number?
Hovind is most definitely an idiot in search of his village. his uneducated tirades full of bigotry, contrived 'experiences' and chirpy little stupidites makes for some amusement. The fact that there appear to be people who can sit still for more than 10 minutes while this guy natters on is ample evidence that people are losing the ability to think and reason on the most basic level. Sad.
@Flymagnet2007: The pre flood atheists that had become completely corrupt, as a result of each person rejecting God and doing right according to their own subjective standard, spouted the same kind of mocking rhetoric about Noah.....and we all know what happened to them right? They all drowned after making fun of Noah for 120 years while he was busy building the Ark. So go ahead and laugh now if it makes you feel good cuz it won't be funny come Judgment Day.
@johnspartan98 if someone mocked you and in return you murdered everyone on the planet , we might think of you as evil and psychotic , and we would not talk about your great love . We would call you a wanker .
You think Noah`s Ark was real ? where did he get the kangaroos from Fed Ex ? Grow up
@ilikezappa: You reject the Bible account of the flood and in support you use kangaroos? You must be hopping mad!! I see no difficulty with kangaroos being on the Ark since prior to the flood all land masses were joined together. After the flood kangaroos somehow became isolated, but that's another issue. Stop being a God denying atheist fool and grow up. And if you don't like what creationsist say you would be best not to listen and just go about your business...and STFU fool.
@johnspartan98 I assume that you base your claim that all the land masses were joined together on the scientific evaluation . ( The same evaluation that tells you it was hundreds of millions of years ago) You can`t have it both ways Johnny. Science is either crap or not . PS I like listening to creationists , it gives me a laugh as I go about my amoral pointless Darwinian day ,teaching people to kick each other in the head.
@ilikezappa: Sounds like you've been kicked in the head too many times while trying to learn how to teach others to kick each other in the head. Not a very noble endeavor.
@johnspartan98 Well depends on your view of the martial arts. I see my students receiving the benefit as people and consider it a good thing. The idea is to instill a sense of noble moral rearmament into people ,which we desperately need . If religion disappears , which seems to be the case, what will we fill the void with? Religion , while based on falsehood and mythology , does provide an element of social cohesion.
@ilikezappa: The Bible says TRUE RELIGION is: helping widows and orphans, taking care of the sick, crippled, and elderly; feeding, clothing, teaching, and sheltering the needy.I see nothing false or mythological about those practices. A spiritually regenerated (born again) person is not religious in the way the world defines religion. As far as martial arts goes, been there and done it for more than 30 years. Yep, back and knees get sore by the end of the work day, so I can relate.
@johnspartan98 Those are religious ethics , which are good things. However , I dont need to believe in a God to agree that people should live correctly and look after each other. This is a separate issue to promoting bogus science with false credentials for money. I am sure Jesus would think Hovind was a moneychanger in the temple ( or an ignorant pillock as we say in England) What style did you practice John?
Why is it, that when an 'evolutionist' discoveres something which supports 'creationism', they lose funding & get ignored?
The 'mainstream' is in all fields. Some science is becomeing like a soap opera. 'Peer review' has become a tool to shut people up.
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I can admit that the earth is very old but life is sure not older than 10000 years old. Life is much younger than how evolutionists believe it is. In the bible it's written that God created the heavens and the earth. But I can believe that after that He took a break of a few billion years until He started to create life, meaning the vegetation, the animals and Adam and Eve.
chris241289 1 week ago
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so.....wheres my cookie?
damn you Hovind you meth head....
azmanabdula 3 weeks ago
He uses middle school text books because he was referring to what our children are being taught in public schools. If you were not trying to twist, what was being said you would have included that instead of trying to use it to prove a point. I take it back it is not clever enough (for someone that doesn't take out important parts of lectures). More like pathetic.
mdunnish 1 month ago
I live in a country that seems to have "outgrown" God, that has gotten us people being held without a chance of defense, criminals that break into peoples houses, injure themselves doing it then sue the people they were robbing, AND WIN. Then there is the lady at Macy's that got fired for not wanting to let a trans whatever into a female dressing room.
mdunnish 1 month ago
The majority of the stuff in the video is taken out of context to prove the point of the person that made this video. Same thing the "News" does these days. This is funny
mdunnish 1 month ago
There are three bad reasons to believe in something:
1. Because it gives you a benefit.
2. Because some authority tells you so.
3. Because most people do so.
And there are just one good reason to believe in something:
1. Because evidence proofs it.
dinogodx 2 months ago 2
I'm not religious nor do I have anything against anyone who is. Believe what you want as long as it gives you satisfaction.
Hovind is not only an embarrassment to Christians, but to humanity as a whole... I can't believe how ANYONE can take this guy seriously.
BigMrSox 2 months ago
@BigMrSox ***He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. LUKE 11:23. ***The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.PSALMS 19:1-3
cto511987 2 weeks ago
@cto511987 As I said before: I am not religious, so your reciting of scripture has fallen on deaf ears. I sincerely stand by my conviction that the Bible/Religion is not compatible with science as the two are completely in contrast to one another.
I don't however have anything against religious people; if you find religion as being rewarding than so be it. But quoting versus from the Bible is a terrible way to reinforce your point.
BigMrSox 2 weeks ago
@BigMrSox **Religion?? who said anything about religion. Tell me why you speak of deaf ears a as a virtue. So you consider yourself a wise man? Can you be honest with yourself? Let's see... take a look at this evidence and try not to be deaf....as how can you explore this world and discover truth if you decide to be deaf. If you value your eternal soul you would not take this so lightly. God Loves you.
*** /watch?v=iDWM-k3_7aA&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL9C1701600A3A75DE
cto511987 2 weeks ago
@cto511987 You demonstrated your religious views when you replied to my initial comment by citing: "Luke 11:23, and Psalms 19:3...So don't try the: "what religion?" bullshit act!
As I said before: "Don't waste my time, unless you can bring something to the table".
Don't bullshit me again, please; I respect your faith (in all respects; aside from active worship), but it doesn't apply unless you can provide some tangible evidence.
I will fuck your religion by way of observation and math.
BigMrSox 2 weeks ago
@BigMrSox Okay, I will provide tangible evidence. But my relationship with Jesus Christ is as much religion as a relationship with someone you love is religion. Will you look at this evidence for truth? But for your sake I will include this other link which would be of much profit to your soul. Please consider the implications.
/watch?v=rTICjwUhSys&feature=related
cto511987 2 weeks ago
16:02
"Federal prisoners are treated in a more humane manner."
hahahahahahaha
Coincidence?
andrewm153351 2 months ago
There's a common fallacy that all Christians believe the earth is young. About 2/3 believe it is old. The fallacy is that if Hovand is wrong about the age of the earth, he is wrong about everything. Ask any philosophy teacher if that is a logical fallacy. You can be wrong about the age of the earth. But you can't be wrong about Christ.
7777Ralph 2 months ago
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Evolution vs Creation:
First Evolution:
"The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Makes perfect sense."
Uuhh. I think the Bible has a much better explanation…
7777Ralph 2 months ago
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Please listen closely to what the Bible says regarding this very thing:
“For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” Rom 1:20
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.” John 3:36
Please accept Jesus today as your Lord and Savior if you want salvation.
7777Ralph 2 months ago
And you know a documents age is accurate why? Because the document says so? Ok I have a piece of paper here - Someone has scribbled "God was here in the year of our me 95155 BC". That means that its the oldest document amirite?
Xellith 3 months ago
wow, dodo, all your points are so weak,,, too bad he's in federal prison for not paying illegal income taxes or I would tell you to debate him,,, picks his oldest video,,,
Cradliving 3 months ago
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Cradliving 3 months ago
Not to be a devils advocate but Evolution is a very broad term covering all those areas. Today when saying Evolution it is safe to assume it is the diversity of life explain via natural selection. Evolution itself means change and explanation for increasing steps to explain a simple system moving to a complex system.
Great video, just wanted to correct that.
JamesCizuz 3 months ago
@ExtinctDildo Interesting video.
AtheistSpanker 4 months ago
I ate whole bag of chocolate chip cookies during this film!
TheInfidelis 4 months ago
The guy who came up with the laughable "water canopy theory" is an expert on science? I don't think so. Also he doesn't no the first law of thermodynamic. It says that ENERGY (not matter) can neither be created nor destroyed.
dlhitch2007 4 months ago
@ianman6. Apologies. I guess I should have worded it differently. I am currently doing some research in natural selection to explain it the right way. So, if I may ask, what exactly is natural selection? Is it a mysterious law of evolution? Or is it an actual sense in the brain of animals? Not sure. Don't worry. I'll figure it out since evolutionists can't get science right. They don't have the right theories so all most all of their work is a scam.
acolony22 5 months ago
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@acolony22
"So, if I may ask, what exactly is natural selection? Is it a mysterious law of evolution? Or is it an actual sense in the brain of animals? "
Holy shit. The stupid burns something fierce.
Google is your friend. It's not that hard to use unless you're TRYING to keep your IQ below 50.
TheZooCrew 5 months ago
@dimsoneill. Natural selection is basically a "computer chip" encoded in animals genes to help them survive in different environments. They didn't give it to themselves. That would be IMPOSSIBLE!!!! If you were walking down the street and saw a penny on the ground. Would you come to the conclusion that it just magically appeared through a set of miraculous changes by itself? NO! You would presume that a person put it there.
acolony22 5 months ago
@dimsoneill. Really? You don't have the slightest rebuttal to my question yet try to insult me about something I didn't ask. I am doing research in the evolution theory idiot. You are just like liberals. You know you've been beaten so you to attack a man personally like a child in a school yard. It's just the same old talking points.
acolony22 5 months ago
Brilliant! Showing this simplistic snake oil salesman for what he is, a liar and a criminal
dimsoneill 5 months ago
He is quoting middle school books because middle school children are being taught that and tax payers expense. Besides that point how many different theories about the way the universe began are there? thousands and evolutionists debate among themselves as to the cause. They say "it's unknown".
God tells us that HE made the Universe on the very first sentence of the Bible.
ILoveGodsWord413 5 months ago
@ILoveGodsWord413 "Thousands and [sic] evolutionists debate among themselves as to the cause" Umm, no. Evolutionists don't study the origin of the universe. Even if an evolutionary biologist said anything about the beginning of the universe, I wouldn't really care. I care what they would say about biology, though.
"God tells us that HE made the Universe on the very first sentence of the Bible." Yes, that is the first verse of the Bible. So what? How does that prove anything? It doesn't.
ianman6 5 months ago
@ianman6 Pick up any high school or college Biology text book and look to see what evolution says about how we began. It states more than just evolution from ape to man or from soup to man, they have to also give an explanation of how the soup came to be or they have an uncompleted theory. Because if all you want to believe is that you came from soup then where did that come from?
You are telling me that you believe that matter (the stuff everything is made of) is in control.
ILoveGodsWord413 5 months ago
@ianman6 Part 2. I am trying to tell you that there had to be an initial cause to everything outside of time, space and matter and that cause is God. He is separate from that because He created that. Therefor you cannot comeback the the question, "well where did God come from". Answer: He Himself made everything and is outside of time, space and matter. "In the beginning", there's time, "God created the Heavens", there's space, "and the Earth", there's matter.
ILoveGodsWord413 5 months ago
@ILoveGodsWord413
"He is separate from that because He created that."
Special pleading fallacy.
"And since evolution is supported by tax payers money and taught as fact, then it is evolution, not creation which bears the burden of truth."
A conspiracy theory and a nonsensical bit of tripe not fit to be called a logical fallacy.
"The fact that God is mentioned in the first verse of the Bible means that He indeed is the one who created all these things."
Non sequitur. What utter nonsense.
TheZooCrew 5 months ago
@TheZooCrew Do you personally study evolutionary biology? Either at school or as a current interest?
Hastein45 5 months ago
@Hastein45
I'm an engineering student, so I have a great deal of experience with the scientific method.
I don't pretend to have an advanced understanding of biology or biochemistry, but evolutionary biology is a personal interest of mine.
TheZooCrew 5 months ago
@TheZooCrew I noticed you killing ILoveGodsWord so I figured I`d ask. A lot of people would serve themselves well by picking up a book and understanding what it is they are trying to debate. Anyways keep up the good work and keep doing what you are doing.
Hastein45 5 months ago
@ianman6 part 3. And since evolution is supported by tax payers money and taught as fact, then it is evolution, not creation which bears the burden of truth. They are the ones that have to explain the origin of time, space and matter and they will do everything they can to not include God in there thinking.
My point is this: The fact that God is mentioned in the first verse of the Bible means that He indeed is the one who created all these things.
Thank you for taking the time to read this :)
ILoveGodsWord413 5 months ago
@ILoveGodsWord413 By your logic Brama created the universe earlier than the Christian God did.
ketsan 5 months ago
@ILoveGodsWord413
Wow.
"Pick up any high school or college Biology text book and look to see what evolution says about how we began."
Evolution says nothing about the origin of life. Straw man.
"where did that come from?"
This is the Bill O'Reilly argument that is an argument from ignorance and nothing more.
"I am trying to tell you that there had to be an initial cause to everything outside of time, space and matter"
Too bad this isn't supported by the data.
TheZooCrew 5 months ago
Richard dawkins himself said that noone has ever observed changes on the macro level yet you hint that its possible to see such things. You say it is easier to observe micro meaning that macro is harder but yet still possible. What evidence do you have of this?
You say the first 3 were physics and your right but evolution is taught into physics.
If that is not true then why does magazines like Scientific American talk about the Big Bang to us.
ILoveGodsWord413 5 months ago
@ILoveGodsWord413 "Richard dawkins himself said that noone has ever observed changes on the macro level" When? Citation please. 1 word: drosophilia. Ok 2 words: Podarcis sicula
"but evolution is taught into physics" What? Evolution has nothing to do with physics. You're just plain wrong here. Scientific American is a popular science magazine that publishes on all sorts of topics of scientific interest, including physics and evolutionary biology. That doesn't mean evolution and physics are tied.
ianman6 5 months ago
Kent Hovind
Received his "Doctorate" from Patriot Bible College, a non-accredited diploma mill. Hovind's thesis on "Christian Education" was not peer reviewed and contains numerous grammatical and co9mmon spelling mistakes. Since 2007 he has been serving a 10 year prison term for tax fraud.
wizard970 5 months ago
@wkreplin. I don't know math well. That doesn't make me stupid. I have plenty of common sense to know when something sounds dumb. You can try to out smart me but you will lose. You give me a question and I'll give you one. How could "prehistoric" man have drawn a pic of a dinosaur on the grand canyon wall if he'd never seen one?
acolony22 5 months ago
@wkreplin. Haha. I'm a 9th grade highschool drop out. Theres obviously no way I could understand the big bang in a mathematical sense, but if it could be proven mathematically that the big bang happened I'm pretty sure there would be a big newspaper article about it, or something.
acolony22 5 months ago
What a great video and so well sourced. Thank you for posting, you have a new subscriber friend.
wkrepelin 5 months ago
@monjaru. My point young man. So the big bang created space-time-matter? Okay. Answer me this, how could a big bang make all these things when it requires all of them to make a big bang?
acolony22 5 months ago
i like Kent Hovind
metubegirl69er 5 months ago
@metubegirl69er well, everybody has flaws. Try not to get too down on yourself for it. :D
wkrepelin 5 months ago
@munkydragon. The "big bang" was just space-time expanding at a rapid rate correct? Well if space-time rapidly expanding caused the "big bang" then how could the "big bang" have created space-time. So if they made each other at the same time then obviously the "big bang" is a false theory. Well just proved the "big bang" theory wrong. Any other stupid questions from young minds?
acolony22 5 months ago
@acolony22: You're doing it backwards. Space-time rapidly expanding didn't cause the Big Bang; the Big Bang caused space-time to expand rapidly.
Try again.
Monjaru 5 months ago
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@munkydragon. My school teacher didn't know anything either. She taught the Pangea theory (I'm sure you know the theory of the continents drifting). Thing is, I went to a Christian school. Haha. I urge you munkydragon, if you look at evolution as a theory instead of a fact you will see plenty of holes. Evolution has been around for 140 years and still hasn't made any progress in actually proving the theory.
acolony22 5 months ago
@acolony22
Complete rubbish. Modern understanding of molecular biology has made huge advances in refining the theory of evolution via natural selection. And guess what, this new evidence fits extremely well with geological and phylogenetic evidence and patterns of distribution that support the theory. If you are going to debate the subject, at least take the time to learn a little about it.
dimsoneill 5 months ago
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@munkydragon. Haha. I'm making ridiculous statements? Creationists think time was made perfect in the beginning too. So you guys do agree on something.
acolony22 5 months ago
You don't have to like science or be qualified in it to teach it. Just ask my high-school science teacher in private school. He was "certified" even though he wasn't certifiable. I bet he got his phD in a subject other than biology. It doesn't matter now. He's not smart enough to stay out of prison, so why would he be smart enough to teach science?
MunkyDrag0n 5 months ago
Someone please explain to me how time evolved? If the big bang theory happened that means time was there before that. So evolution actually started itself somehow. So evolution must be the first thing to evolve. So if evolution evolved then what made evolution evolve? Ha! Evolution. It answers everything! Man wish I was smart enough to come up with that. Oh wait! I did! I think I just evolved!
acolony22 6 months ago
@acolony22 Time did not evolve. Evolution is biological change over time. Time's biology changes over time? Really? Learn something before you make ridiculous statements. Time as we know it most likely began with the big bang (our current system of seconds, minutes, and so forth). Evolution did start itself long after the big bang, time's beginning, and the formation of Earth. It led to organisms forming after Earth's formation to become more complex or well-suited to conditions over time.
MunkyDrag0n 5 months ago
@acolony22 I'll give you a real explanation of the big bang theory if you want it but it's of a fairly high level of mathematical sophistication. If you really want to know and aren't just trolling then message me an I will be more than forthcoming with the specifics of the theory. You're going to need to understand differential equations to get the jist of it and will need to know methods for solving fourth order Dif Eq via numerical methods to repeat the math yourself for our universe.
wkrepelin 5 months ago
You guys suck.
acolony22 6 months ago
Kent Hovind
Received his "Doctorate" from Patriot Bible College, a non-accredited diploma mill. Hovind's thesis on "Christian Education" was not peer reviewed and contains numerous grammatical and co9mmon spelling mistakes. Since 2007 he has been serving a 10 year prison term for tax fraud.
wizard970 6 months ago
Lets see, the theorum of evolution is the most proven theorum in all of science. More then 250,000 published, peer reviewed, verified papers have been written on it, in 150 years. Yet you say you can disprove it, please post the published (main stream media), peer reviewed, verified paper that does this.
wizard970 6 months ago
@wizard970 I agree with your point but it's a theory not a theorem. Theorems are logical or mathematical. Good comment though, keep it up.
wkrepelin 5 months ago
@wkrepelin The word "theorum" is from Richard Dawkins. Theorem is a proven mathematical equation. He would like to use the theorum, to show that evolution is a not just a theory. Fronm "The Greatest Show on Earth". So I am going to keep using it till these folks get the idea that is not just a theory.
wizard970 5 months ago
@wizard970 Ah, my misunderstanding. Thank you for the correction.
wkrepelin 5 months ago
It's funny how a man with absolutely no credibility like this, can demolish evolution at every turn. It must only be those theories with some sort of evidence that can holdup to such a moron.
jonathonbyrd1 6 months ago
@jonathonbyrd1
Did you watch this? The only thing Ken is demolishing is his own credibility!
dimsoneill 5 months ago
Why does Kent wear a lab coat ? Professor of Biology Dawkins doesn`t feel the need to do this? He looks like a guy trying to sell you Painkillers on TV
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ilikezappa 6 months ago
God bless kent hovind for spreading the truth despite all the lies made against him!
k12rising 6 months ago
@k12rising Man, I'm glad there is no entity to follow through with that command. Hovind almost makes me wish there were divine retribution because the twisted part of me would really enjoy seeing him get his.
wkrepelin 5 months ago
WOW! This guy is dilusional
jmitterii2 6 months ago
Proof Positive God does not exist. No self respecting God would produce a freak like Hovind, ergo there is No God. I rest my case.
jontibloom 7 months ago 2
God made everything. He is our Creator. It's that simple!
beautifulwhitecat 7 months ago
@beautifulwhitecat
Simple lies for simple people who are ignorant or lazy to believe.
dimsoneill 5 months ago
evolution is a religion not science
CreationPhotography 7 months ago
The sad part of this video is that there is a great deal of stretching the truth on both sides. Hovind over stated some arguments of course, however this video is chock full of the same kind of bull from it`s editor. The only point that can be made here is that to fulfill their agenda everyone stretches the truth. Who is the most guilty perpetrator of lies here? Reality is " No man is righteous, not even one". And if "The truth will set you free" You wont find it here.
Neodoxian 7 months ago
@Neodoxian "his video is chock full of the same kind of bull from it`s editor" ...so let's hear it....
WombatusMaximus 7 months ago
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convicted felon kent hovind.
WWJD???
Alverthorpe 7 months ago
convicted felon kent hovind.
Alverthorpe 7 months ago
@Alverthorpe Other "convicted felons", Apostle Paul, John and John the Baptist, Peter. Need I go on? Fact is, all men and woman are sinners and have a deceitfully wicked heart. This is why Jesus is soooo important. He took our wickedness and applied it to Himself on calvarys cross, not willing that any should perish, but for all to come to repentance. If you were the only soul on the face of the earth, He'd still die in your place.
Truth, peace
Ezekielthirtyeight 7 months ago
Who are these imaginary people he is having these "debates" with? Last time I heard Hovind on the radio he was up against Genie Scott (REAL scientist) and she ate him for lunch. I also notice that Hovind sucks at math. Every assertion he makes assumes everything changes at a linear rate. So basically he has a grasp of pre-algebra. Sheesh. People listen to this moron? He rapid fires one assertion after another and offers no proof of any of them. The stupid... it burns...
th30r3m 7 months ago
creation vs evolution . free forums . org
purdyr 7 months ago
The creationism-evolution debate is irrelevant. We all want to 'feel good' and we all want 'to understand the world around us.' Some stress the former, some stress the latter. The divide has always existed and is as innate as left and right handedness. Then we all die and the universe moves on.
hisnameisfrankie 7 months ago
@hisnameisfrankie Beyond a point we all choose individually, you can't tell a man who perfers to feel good anything to increase understanding that will threaten his comfort zone, and you can't tell a man who prefers to understand anything to make him feel good that threatens understanding.
hisnameisfrankie 7 months ago
@hisnameisfrankie Perhaps problems arise when either view is taken to far or too seriously. We humans need to face reality, at the same time, some sense of purpose and aspiration to 'more' is needed to make the human condition bearable, perhaps even enjoyable.
hisnameisfrankie 7 months ago
Kent Hovind is a good man. He is truthful.
Is he perfect...no.
Is this Earth 6000 years old....yes.
Genesis is accurate. Evolution is a lie from the mind of Satan.
Laylow4now 8 months ago
@Laylow4now ha ha yea with those assertions i'd stay low for now as well......
TacoBurgher327 8 months ago
@Laylow4now
Have you read Kent Hovinds dissertation? It is a mess and its laughable. Also he received it from a so called "diploma-mill university". I suggest you actually READ his dissertation and see for yourself.
Bergelmer123 8 months ago
@Laylow4now I don't know who is serious and who is being sarcastic anymore.
hisnameisfrankie 7 months ago
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@Laylow4now You are deluded.
atheistram 7 months ago
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@Laylow4now "Evolution is a lie from the mind of Satan." thats awesome, can i make a bumper sticker out of that? I will never have a fender bender again because people will be driven away by the stink of crazy
WombatusMaximus 7 months ago
@Laylow4now
truthful? no.
perfect? hell no. that's part of the definition of being human.
6000 years? yes, the earth IS 6000 years old... but it's also 500 years old, 23 years old, 1000000 years old... in short, the earth is every number of years old leading up to its ACTUAL age. 6000 years ago was not when everything magically appeared.
evolution is a rigourously tested idea that is universally accepted, and it will be until a better theory arises. creation isn't a theory: it's a myth.
LeafyGreens7 6 months ago
@LeafyGreens7 ....Not magical, the Creator spoke it into existence. Magic is the manipulation of higher powers. God was not manipulating anything higher, He is the Source of all things. It is a big difference. "...And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Colossians 1:17
Yes, the Earth is 6000 years old. All the oldest relevant source documents tell us this. You don't have a single written document older than 6000 yrs. Big problem! Evolution rigorously tested? Oh please!
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now You lost all credibility in your argument the second you started using the bible as a reference point. Also since when did the age of the oldest texts on the earth = the age of the earth? That's so stupid I don't know where to begin. Evolution has been proven as "Fact". Its still called a theory because it is still having information added to it as its discovered. Its only a technicality - evolution is fact. Read a science book sometime. You might learn something.
Xellith 3 months ago
@Xellith ....The age of the oldest dated human document would be very important. It is a solid date that we can work with, instead of using supposition. It's not really stupid. It is good investigation. Also, the further we go back in time, the more the people all agreed that God created this earth. They disagreed at times on who God was, but they pretty much all agreed that God had made this Earth. Why? They were much closer than we are to the first eye-witnesses. Also, I do read science books.
Laylow4now 3 months ago
@Laylow4now
"The age of the oldest dated human document would be very important. It is a solid date that we can work with, instead of using supposition."
Not exactly. Plus, you can't just explain away radiometric dating and dendrochronology and all evidence from geology and cosmology that the planet is 4.54 billion years old.
"Also, the further we go back in time, the more the people all agreed that God created this earth."
Nice try, Orwell. This isn't what happened at all.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
@Laylow4now
"You don't have a single written document older than 6000 yrs."
We don't have a single written document older than 3500 years, but you'd be utterly stupid to assert that Earth is only 3500 years old. Of course, you ARE apparently utterly stupid, so you'll probably change your story.
"Evolution rigorously tested? Oh please!"
So the 290,000+ peer-reviewed publications on evolution just don't exist?
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
at 18:08 are you saying americans are dumb?
azraelblame 8 months ago
i still do not see how we can prove evolution by just saying it happened and it happens.one doesn't need to believe in a god to see that this evolution concept is bollocks.whoever made this video is a bit dense
azraelblame 8 months ago
@azraelblame Evidence, that's how we can say it happened and is still happening
TacoBurgher327 8 months ago
@TacoBurgher327 Evidence? what evidence? i can wake up and say "becoz the sun burns so bright that means a god made it" there's your evidence. who was there to prove we all came from bacteria or whatever else we say we came from. evidence is not evidence just coz you say it is and just coz you CLAIM to be able to prove it.
azraelblame 8 months ago
@azraelblame We have shown the proof, and why we "believe" evolution happened, and you say, THAT"S NOT PROOF. DNA, RNA, transitional fossils, natural selection, the molecular record, The anatomical record, OBSERVING speciation, i mean the list goes on and on, yet, as you have already stated, there is no evidence.... what more do you want??
And quite honestly, if you want to claim something wrong, you must provide a BETTER explanation of the evidence..... god dun it ain't gonna cut it.......
TacoBurgher327 8 months ago
@TacoBurgher327 see, you all keep saying the same thing and say it with such conviction, you talk about dna, rna fossils (and how you claim to tell the age of anything or origin thereof from looking at bones is stupefying) and all the other stuff you just listed, i think you need to go check the definitions again. ok lets make it easy, give me an example anybody has witnessed of something becoming something totally different, like cats becoming spiders, dont tell me bout adaptation.
azraelblame 8 months ago
@azraelblame scientists aren't claiming a cat becomes a spider. Never have. Maybe YOU should look up what evolution actually means. Do you HONESTLY think scientists say we get spiders from cats?? These are the most respected people on the planet and who work COUNTLESS hours determining reality from fiction. People who have cured countless diseases, allow you to live past 50, figured out the world wasn't flat, yet you think they would say "we get spiders from cats." Very ignorant on your part...
TacoBurgher327 8 months ago
@azraelblame and we know through testing. Testing the fossils and the rock around the fossil. not just one test, 7 different test done, hundreds of samples are tested with 7 different methods of dating, giving you 7 independent numbers, and the numbers are relatively close, why can't you make an accurate guess at the date? DNA, chimp and human DNA, 95% similarity, why? Why doesn't evolution explain that for you? common decent. and we see the decent, back, and back, and back. Its all there......
TacoBurgher327 8 months ago
@azraelblame Show me someone who has witnessed a child growing.
hisnameisfrankie 7 months ago
@hisnameisfrankie i will be nice. i have seen a child and billions of other people who gave birth have seen their children growing. your point?
azraelblame 7 months ago
No need to get all butt-hurt about Hovind debunking evolution. The New World Order already defamed him by a nonsensical IRS indictment. I hope those criminals do not consider their futile Satanic attack to be a victory.
kelseyja 8 months ago
why dont u post proof to shut people up. Anyone could make these claims as u state
parrishstuckey1 8 months ago
Very good video. I want my cookie now.
alexcowart 8 months ago
Deus exastra, you need to know that Christians believe truth and where it's uncertain they should seek it with all their heart, strength, and soul. Do you actuall believe that being clever with words makes you correct? Does playing with words alter a single fact? See you comment from a week before this one.
choochoodacat 8 months ago
Gorilla, you are obviously an emotional child so I do not want to upset you. When you leave school and start thinking for yourself you WILL understand a bit better. Please do not reply if you feel the need to be insulting, cheers mate
choochoodacat 8 months ago
Hovind is extremely informed and wise, yet goes off the deep end 10% of the time. If it weren't for that 10%, he'd be much more believable.
sownzgr8 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
"Hovind is extremely informed and wise"
LOL well you cant be so reatarded as to believe that as you cna ttype or atleast speak to somone to type for you.
So you are a stupid ignorant creatard.
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored LOL, I'd pay just to watch hovind hand you back your ass in a debate, just for the entertainment value.
sownzgr8 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
"I pay just to watch hovind "
What a surprise you are a ignorant creatard who thinks the 6000 year old flat earth that sits on pillars doesnt move and the ark, flood and tower of bable was true! LOL
If your dumb enuff to believe hovind (Who even other creatards distance themself fom and say dont use such stupid claims as it embaressed and even insults other creatrds) then you could very well be a paranoid dellusional who believes in conspiracies.
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored project much? weak.. I don't believe anything; but I see you love guessing.
sownzgr8 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
LOL I checked you have been sharing your paranoid dellusionals about massive conspiracies with the other mentally ill people!
So do you think the world is 6000 years old are you really that stupid?
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored What paranoid delusions? You believe everything you've been taught and call others mentally ill LOL. Nice.
No I don't think the world is 6000 years old. That's a projection you keep tripping over yourself with.
sownzgr8 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
"call others mentally ill "
You where to be xtian just like you where taught to be a conspiracist nut. You where not right int he head int he first palce, but if people didnt make up this crap yuou would not believe it!
The bible says 6000 years, how old do you think the earth is?
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored More boring chronic meaningless projections, incorrect too. Unimpressed. Not tired yet huh? I'm not sure how old the earth is. I'm not gonna speculate here. The bible is correct here and incorrect there and is allegorical other places. I hardly use it as scientific reference, in fact I bet I knock the good book more than you. Check out my Dennis McKinsey "holy poop" video - mild compared to things I've said. So put that in your proverbial projection pipe and smoke it.
sownzgr8 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
"The bible is correct here and incorrect there and is allegorical other places. "
So how can you tell which is true, which is false and which is allegorical? LOL
I CAN FEEL AVOIDANCE COMING! LOL
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
So when the bible says its god made man from dirt 6000 years ago.
Which is true/false? How do you know this?
Also state for the ark/flood fairy tale.
Your god orgerding the unborn babioes be ripped from their mothers stomaches before they are killed
Which is true/false etc and why? LOL
If you cant explain and justify these simple 3 then you cnat do it for any of the bible :)
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
@gorilla199uncensored Did you even read my last post? I said I don't follow scripture. I'm a non-Christian. Seeing you need to be told a dozen times, I'll let your grade three level brain rest from reading (or not reading in your case) any future responses. Seek help.
sownzgr8 8 months ago
@sownzgr8
You SAID its correct in some palces and not in others.
I asked how you cna tell which is which.
This you AVOIDED as I stated you would! :)
You are a paranoid dellusional conspiracist nut!
The world government (Is it aliens? satanists? freemasons? or what?) are out to kill you! LOL
I have read your paranoid comments on stupid conspiracist videos.
If you think hovind is informed and wise then that makes you much less wise and informned than him and that is stupid!
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
I am a Creationist but I watch videos like this to cover all the basis and refute these arguments against Creation. At 4:03 that is believable because I have talked to people before, had whole conversations, and didn't remember their names.
At 4:58 Hovind is saying that the professor gave a "standard textbook answer" just like the one found in that book. The book hovind is using is just an example that closely fits what the professor said.
josephericlopez 8 months ago
"Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!" Hmm, dont Christians believe that they will live "forever" in heaven after they die? No wonder they act as if stupidity is a virtue, they just want to get into heaven and live forever. Well, congratulations Kent, your stupidity level has guaranteed you a long, long afterlife.
DeusExAstra 9 months ago
watching this video makes me proud to not be American.
Theaverable 9 months ago
Hovind has some good points I like him and do not agree with the evolution model.
glendaweil 9 months ago
BTW I have an English education and have been taught to ask my own Q's. Not just the ones the teech asks! Not being inbred or stupid I am able to think, reason and derive a sensible and scientifically correct answer. Even when I do not like the answer!
choochoodacat 9 months ago
Kent is actually right. His terminology is not according to current university wording, but essentially HE IS CORRECT! I have no fear of him and I will seek the facts. Why do so many Americans have fear of facts?
choochoodacat 9 months ago
@choochoodacat
"His terminology is not according to current university wording, but essentially HE IS CORRECT! I"
He i smaking false claims or lying most probably. He is making crap up again!
But thanks for showing you are as ignorant as he is.
gorilla199uncensored 8 months ago
I CAN'T BARE TO WATCH!! This is preposterous!!
33HEB 10 months ago
@33HEB "Bear" in this case , unless you like watching Kent Hovind videos naked , which would make you outstandingly strange !
Sorry to be a smartarse , but I can`t help it. ILZ
ilikezappa 10 months ago
This man is a moron! No wonder there are so many stupid people out there... look who's teaching!
FMe!
33HEB 10 months ago
It appears atheists take the day off on FOOLS DAY. Ha...ha...ha..ha...haaa. My mail box is usually full with nasty comments and foolish rebuttals from atheists, but not today...LOL. Hmmm?
johnspartan98 10 months ago
Ha ! too late I have a black belt in Aikido , which I studied for nearly twenty years. Mainly do TKD ( 5th Dan) because I get to punch teenagers in the face
Someone has too ! Cmon John Let me ask you , what is your evaluation of Kent`s Dissertation? Are you impressed with it as a document with which to confer the title "Doctor" on someone? Please answer.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
I guess looking at all the refutations on YT which demolish Hovind have no effect on your view of him ?? How about this one. It is pretty good . Do you just dismiss them because is interferes with Planet Bible and therefore cannot be true
ilikezappa 10 months ago
The government pushes evolution under the guise of science and says any scientist teaching about creation is teaching religion. So the government funds scientists and schools that teach evolution but won't fund teaching creation. Hovind says, "Ok, I'm teaching religion through my ministry which includes my religious theme park." According to tax law, his ministry is tax exempt. Seems the Gov is guilty of violating tax laws, conducting a color of law prosecution, and violating the constitution.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
His qualifications are demonstrably bullshit . Have you seen his dissertation? There is no science in it ! It no way resembles a PhD dis. from a reputable source. Obvious to anyone who doesn`t have his head stuck in a Bible , desperate for a scientist to support their wretched medieval superstition , but they have to put up with lightweight hucksters like Kent ,who would be completely unable to engage professionaly with real scientists. Have you seen the cow shed that milled out his diploma?
ilikezappa 10 months ago
I am in favour of churches paying taxes . American evangelical churches are famous the world over for being heavenly fat business. At least they would do some good if we taxed them. PS Evolution is science. Good science. The only people who dont believe that are religious fanatics (who are proven to not be as clever as scientists. The day America funds teaching creation is the day it slides into theocracy. We can see from the Iranian experience how cheerful that would be.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: Get over it zappa. Churches have outreach programs and provide financial aid, meals, clothing, transportation, etc. to many needy people all over the world. Don't put all churches in the same basket as the FEW fraudsters, swindlers, hucksters, and charlatans you see on TV who turn the truth of God into a lie for personal benefit. They don't represent Christ.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 I cant disagree with any of that . I dont believe in God , but I have some friends that I respect who are Christians and they do a lot for poor people. ( All of them think Genesis is just mythology and Kent Hovind is stupid) Its the assault on the beautiful US constitution and wonderful science by fundamentalists that I feel the need to defend, just like if Zombies were trying to break into your house NOOOOOAHS ARKNNNNN smash smaSh GLOBALLL FLLOOODDD NNNNNN aah there coming!
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 PS glad you missed me . So , what do you think about Kents Dissertation. Are you going to answer that ?
ilikezappa 10 months ago
Patriot Bible University is authorized by the Colorado Commission of Higher Education as a seminary or Bible college. It's not a diploma mill. Besides, Hovind has been in more debates against evolutionists than anyone on the planet and he's won most, if not all, of them. That alone should qualify him for an honorary PhD. in the field of Science. Life experience and what you accomplish in the real world counts more than wallpaper or acronyms placed after your name anyway.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 Yes "Seminary " or" Bible College" exactly my point . Somewhere with no scientific accreditation and no academic status. It also looks like a cow shed.Have you seen Kent`s dissertation? If you want a belly laugh , read it. The only times I have summoned up the patience to watch Kent "Debate" he comes acrross as an ignorant tool , who cannot defend his bullcrap honestly. Just calling yourself Dr and wearing a bogus labcoat only fools certain people.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
ps I know how to spell " acccros" arf arf
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: Your arguments are ad hominem personal attacks against Hovind and mean nothing. If you think getting a PhD from any Bible College is a cakewalk then give it a try pal. You don't need to be an expert to argue against an evolutionist. All you need is the common sense of a 10 year old. Good luck with your denial and closed mind bud.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 Yes , they are "ad Hominem" personal attacks because he as an individual is a charlatan who has bullshit qualifications and relies on the stupidity and ignorance of his audience to con them out of millions of dollars. Fortunately the IRS is not as dumb as the people he tries to sell his brand of pitiful science to and they put him where he belongs. I have seen his dissertation ,talking of the level of a ten year old. "I`d like to thank mummy.." what a dweeb
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: I already demonstrated that his qualifications are not bullshit. He is highly intelligent and articulate, and he raises people's thought processes and gives them some good information to ponder. The IRS in this case amounts to a few individuals(probably atheists) who's actions are due to their personal bias, probably because Hovind sued them in the past. Do you think the IRS is the good guy in this? DO you trust the IRS? You really are a FOOL and an IDIOT if you do.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
Kirk Cameron, Kent Hovind and Ken Ham.
The trifecta of ignorance.
They are intolerant of any knowledge that is contrary to their own world view.
They are the K.K.K. of the human intellect.
LiveTheWild 10 months ago
After the flood the kangaroos " somehow became isolated" That is your explanation of the geographical diversity of modern species? All the pandas headed for china " cmon boys, this way... " sounds like you are an expert on being isolated
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: No one really knows for sure since no one is around who witnessed it. To say it could not be the result of all land masses being joined isn't science either. I see nothing strange with some animals being isolated and unique to certain parts of the world when there are reasonable explanations. It's not my field of expertise, nor do I care. It does not effect my spiritual growth one way or another. Nice spin kick, but blocked and countered pal. PS: Look up the "expanding earth" video.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 You didn`t witness the American Civil War. How confident are you that it happened ?
Koala bears eat only a certain kind of Eucalypt found in Australia . Darwinian evolution perfectly explains why you dont find Koalas anywhere else ( or Wombats,pygmy possums , sugar gliders etc etc.) Your "Giant boat" story has some gaping holes in it dude
ilikezappa 10 months ago
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@ilikezappa You said, "You didn`t witness the American Civil War. How confident are you that it happened ?"
I did not witness the British being defeated which resulted in the USA gaining Independence either. Wanna bet it happened?
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 Doh that thing about the civil war was in response to you claiming if you weren`t there , you couldn`t prove something happened. You would make a shit scientist / historian. Better stick to mending Lawn Mowers , or whatever you do arf arf
PS We didn`t lose . It was a strategic withdrawal. We are sending you Prince Chuck to kick your asses next year
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: Dude, I think you have been punched in the head too many times. Try learning Aikido to prevent that from happening before it's too late for the remaining reasoning capacity you might have left.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
ooh ooh I have a question ok what is it with this guy and 4400 years, even assuming that creationism is real we have wrtten records from civilizations going back a lot further than 4400 so why is he so obsessed with that number?
Bleakillusion 10 months ago
@Bleakillusion I have watched a few videos with/about him and the 4400 thing keeps popping up, is it some kind of code like 23?
Bleakillusion 10 months ago
For years ...i thought this was a comedy act, like Andy Griffith describing a football game.
Tweekerhead 10 months ago
Hovind is most definitely an idiot in search of his village. his uneducated tirades full of bigotry, contrived 'experiences' and chirpy little stupidites makes for some amusement. The fact that there appear to be people who can sit still for more than 10 minutes while this guy natters on is ample evidence that people are losing the ability to think and reason on the most basic level. Sad.
Flymagnet2007 11 months ago
@Flymagnet2007: The pre flood atheists that had become completely corrupt, as a result of each person rejecting God and doing right according to their own subjective standard, spouted the same kind of mocking rhetoric about Noah.....and we all know what happened to them right? They all drowned after making fun of Noah for 120 years while he was busy building the Ark. So go ahead and laugh now if it makes you feel good cuz it won't be funny come Judgment Day.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 if someone mocked you and in return you murdered everyone on the planet , we might think of you as evil and psychotic , and we would not talk about your great love . We would call you a wanker .
You think Noah`s Ark was real ? where did he get the kangaroos from Fed Ex ? Grow up
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: You reject the Bible account of the flood and in support you use kangaroos? You must be hopping mad!! I see no difficulty with kangaroos being on the Ark since prior to the flood all land masses were joined together. After the flood kangaroos somehow became isolated, but that's another issue. Stop being a God denying atheist fool and grow up. And if you don't like what creationsist say you would be best not to listen and just go about your business...and STFU fool.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 I assume that you base your claim that all the land masses were joined together on the scientific evaluation . ( The same evaluation that tells you it was hundreds of millions of years ago) You can`t have it both ways Johnny. Science is either crap or not . PS I like listening to creationists , it gives me a laugh as I go about my amoral pointless Darwinian day ,teaching people to kick each other in the head.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: Sounds like you've been kicked in the head too many times while trying to learn how to teach others to kick each other in the head. Not a very noble endeavor.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 Well depends on your view of the martial arts. I see my students receiving the benefit as people and consider it a good thing. The idea is to instill a sense of noble moral rearmament into people ,which we desperately need . If religion disappears , which seems to be the case, what will we fill the void with? Religion , while based on falsehood and mythology , does provide an element of social cohesion.
PS Head is fine , knees not so good these days.
ilikezappa 10 months ago
@ilikezappa: The Bible says TRUE RELIGION is: helping widows and orphans, taking care of the sick, crippled, and elderly; feeding, clothing, teaching, and sheltering the needy.I see nothing false or mythological about those practices. A spiritually regenerated (born again) person is not religious in the way the world defines religion. As far as martial arts goes, been there and done it for more than 30 years. Yep, back and knees get sore by the end of the work day, so I can relate.
johnspartan98 10 months ago
@johnspartan98 Those are religious ethics , which are good things. However , I dont need to believe in a God to agree that people should live correctly and look after each other. This is a separate issue to promoting bogus science with false credentials for money. I am sure Jesus would think Hovind was a moneychanger in the temple ( or an ignorant pillock as we say in England) What style did you practice John?
ilikezappa 10 months ago