Philip Bloom setting up a Canon 5D Mark II for video

[GeorgeNathanPhotos]

What does he mean when he says he just gains two stops latitude by making those adjustments?

[4wdweather]

@GeorgeNathanPhotos

Reducing contrast means dark areas are less pronounced

[auntiebunnyshow]

very good video Mr Bloom

[musicforindies]

i thought Philip made those adjustments to the Neutral PP but on the closeups it looks like he made them to the "Standard PP"

[crystalplumage1000]

are these settings only good if you decide to shoot using RAW? I plan on making a short with the 60d and want to use jpeg rather than RAW, and want to get good results in the camera. would these settings be best for jpeg also straight from the camera with only tiny adjustments in post if needed? thnx.

[RealityHurts923]

@crystalplumage1000 Only Photos are come out in JPEG or RAW. For video, you will get a .mov file

[BADtimmay]

Like a boss

[OleHBach]

@yashzn1234 You gain, as mr. Bloom said, 2 stops of information. So less crushed black and over exposed white. Then again, you'll have to color correct more to make it look usable. Though most (everybody) DSLR shooters use the Cinestyle color profile these days.

[yashzn1234]

@OleHBach Thanks for reply :) I see what you mean but I still disagree...

[MrLouKaas]

@yashzn1234 I'm not an expert, but what I know is that the standard picture style from canon doesn't put out the image that goes into the camera, but color grades it by giving it contrast and saturation. So by setting these down, the image might look flatter but this gives you more detail overall. you than have more options color grading it in post.

[RawkusVoid]

@yashzn1234 better to shoot neutral and flat, then color correct in post. Techincolor has a nice picture style you can download which is great for color correcting in post.

[Huwaetje]

@yashzn1234 They should NOT be on zero! Don't listen to this guy people. :) You'll lose a lot of details in the darker areas.

[DarkPartyBoy]

Awesome video, thanx! Check out my PAKI FAIL videos shot with Philip Blooms settings. I am very talented, so you might learn some.

[Davincar]

Are people sure about the multiples 160 ISO thing? The camera naively only works at 100, 200, 400 and so on... all of the inbetweens I believe are done in post inside the camera. Is what the camera is doing in post really that superior to just taking the footage from unmodified iso? It supposedly reduces noise at this 160 multiples but I have also seen that it reduces the dynamic range a it. Anyone have a definitive answer on this?

[geoffdoor]

good that well done bloomey 

[SofaBrandTV]

@exfoliage if your shooting 30p, your shutter speed would need to be 1/60th.

Always double what your frame is.

[exfoliage]

Question: would you still adjust the shutter to 50 even if you were shooting at 30 fps ?

[222Miller]

@exfoliage 60

[musicforindies]

thats really handy,thanks for sharing. Bloom seems like a cool dude, so what shutter speed for 24p if he recommends 50 for 25p would it be the same for 24p? thanks

[StalkerPT1]

Undoubtebly the best setup, use 2xfps for shutter speed, depending on your lenses maximum aperture adjust ISO accordingly (always fixed - 160 - 320 - 640). If shooting with strong light, consider using ND filters to cut some stops of light. Mr Bloom knows what he's talking about.

[jamiewindsor]

I totally get why he does everything here except the ISO bit. 1/50th of a second to replicate as near as possible to film's 1/48th shutter motion, M so the camera doesn't make adjustments, contrast/sharpness etc. down so you have more exposure latitude to grade with in post — but why the multiples of 160 for ISO? I thought the lower the better (ie. less noise to give you a cleaner image).

Can someone explain?

[doopadee]

@jamiewindsor Canon's native ISO settings are 160 and multiples of that ie: 320 640 etc...in theory those will give the least amount of noise in those ISO groupings.

[jamiewindsor]

@doopadee Ah okay. Thanks for explaining. 

[Death5noopy]

Anyone who knows about photography knows how to set up the effect he wants...he's not absolutely right.

[willmatthewharris1]

Best post i've ever found for 5D mk2 video settings... thankyou, i've been trying very hard to get the look i wanted and the best from the camera, and there is such a minefield of conflicting information around, this by far has been the best set up I have personally found, invaluable if only for letting you know to shoot at 160/320/640 ISO etc.

[rdexposure]

i am shooting on 5d tell me wht is good ISO for daylight

i am shooting in indoor 200 ISO is good ?

[Edwardolace]

@rdexposure lower ISO the better = less visual noise/static... for daylight = 100/200 but according to Bloom, id go with what he says... 160. If its too dark bump it up

[YouFirstEye]

Here is an update. Technicolor CineStyle (picture style) can give you the highest latitude, approx. 11 stops. When the Technicolor CineStyle is selected in the camera, it puts the standard H.264 REC709 color space into a log color space. Video images are recorded in log space to gain latitude for color grading in post.

[cinemagun]

Totally agree with this - spot on Phil!

[arbellos]

Philip Bloom, you are the man!!!

thanx so much for these tips...

great stuff.

cheers

[Scortech]

I don't have a 5d. I have a 550d.Closest ISo settings I got is 200(160) , 400(320), 800 and 1600 :-(

[foxtowerphotography]

@Scortech I've read elsewhere that these ISO settings are used on the 5D Mark II because of its sensor size. Apparently these same ISO and shutter speeds work best for stills as well. Have a look around to find out what ISO/shutter settings work best for your sensor.

[joejumps4fun]

@Scortech Get Magic Lantern on your t2i

[IslamboyHD]

Can you please tell me why this is happening, in M mode, i change the ISO and Aperture and i can´t see any difference in "Brightness" in the lcd screen, i have the 24mm-105mm lenses , is it a problem with the camera or me? thanks

[MrCJ1988]

Hahah thanks so much, okay so far so good, BUT this leads to another question (put up with me for a sec :p) I have a 5d Mark ii, same as the one in the video, and Philip suggested 25p. Does that mean I should be shooting @ 25p too to get that cinematography look? Or Should I be shooting @ 24p as you stated?

Actually do you mind having a look at the video I posted up and helping me with some comment? I would really appreciate it a lot because that was my first video with this camera. Thanks!!!!!

[richieramone1]

@MrCJ1988 I think he said 25p because this was probably shot in Europe, where 25p works for PAL.

[mahoneyjoe]

@MrCJ1988 The 25fps refers to the PAL standard in Europe. That's where he gets the 1/50-second setting.

[MrCJ1988]

with 5d Mark ii, is it better to shoot with 24p or 25p? and why? Thanks

[rainarzufall]

@MrCJ1988 If you wanna bring your Film to an Theatre on to the big screen. 24p is the right choice ;)

for DVD, Internet (Flash stream) etc. 25p or 30p are better ;)

[StPeteHomes]

PAL is the broadcasting standard in Europe and uses 25 fps (when you are in this mode a shutter speed of 50 is made an option)... if you live in the States NTSC is the broadcasting standard at 24 fps (a shutter speed of 48 is optimal) it also gives you a "film" look... NTSC on the 5D also shoots in 30 fps (a shutter speed of 60 then would be optimal)... 7D gives you the option of a faster frame rate. it will always depend on the "look" you want but doubling the number is good. hope this helped!

[khaaning]

Hello.

Thank you for your tips.

On my D5 I am not able to choose the shutter speed 50 (only 45 and 60) although I am shooting at 25p?

Is there something I missed`

[crysisguy05]

@skatible lol! i know what dynamic range is..

[crysisguy05]

what does he mean on 1:19 ??

[skatible]

@crysisguy05 He means you get more dynamic range. Dynamic range (DR) is how much picture information you have. If you have a very small DR then you will barely have any range in color grading to get the image you like. With a high DR, you generally get more detail out of the shadows and highlights (instead of them being completely black or the highlights completely blown out you can see detail). It gives you a lot more options in grading to give the image the feel you want it to have.

[PaulinaColombia]

Also Neutral or Standard?

[bartsphotoss]

@PaulinaColombia i think its neutral thats what he said not sure i set it as neutral

[PaulinaColombia]

I just shot on 7D with 50mm Prime 1.8. With an ISO... 3200! I was shooting indoors, it looked really dark so I kept going up and up... Is it going to be crazy grainy? Oh well, you live and you learn. Also question. I keep shooting at 1920x1080 at 30.... My Canon manual says at 30 is Full HD... Should I be shooting at 24? Thanks!! Just staring out so I apologize if questions seem dumb. Paulina

[Parrott65]

@PaulinaColombia If you are shooting a cinematic style of movie, then yes, 24p is the way to go.

[MrCJ1988]

@Parrott65 I am bigger too, so don't laugh at my question :p but really, why should we shoot at 24p when we can shoot at 30p? please explain and thanks a lot in advance!

[Parrott65]

@MrCJ1988 LOL, I promise that I won't give you a hard time! Since I'm only alotted so many characters as a response, I'll be brief: Movies are usually filmed at 24p by the movie industry, while documentary style filming is done at 30p or 60p. The best way to describe this is, the higher frame rate you go, the more it looks like a "home movie", while the lower you go gives it more of a "strobing effect" and makes it look more cinematic. 30p is okay, but not the industry standard for cinema.

[yuppyguitar1]

@PaulinaColombia Time for fork over $2k and get the 1.2 lens. It'll let in 4 times as much light. You pay for the extra glass to allow that to happen.

[nofatchicks30]

why are you so fat?

[actablecause]

Does using ISO 160 and it's multiples comply with still frames a well? To avoid grain that is.

[tanmy85]

Can I used these same settings on a Canon 7D?

[alanbstard4]

how can you set up a proper audio with the 5D. Thanks

[DreamBind]

im not sure i like this video set up it looks too washed up and blurry, I mean why turn all the sharpness of, if you wan it blured why not use a filtter in post, so at least the original fottage is sharp.

[antoinevideoblog]

@DreamBind na turning the sharpness all the way down doesn't make it blurry, though it may look like that on the camera screen. Turning the sharpness down reduces the grain and the slight outline it creates around objects is all. Though personally, I don't have it set all the way down cause it makes it alot more difficult to follow focus/ actually know if you're focused on the subject.

[mYOzZyKaT]

If you are specifically shooting for YouTube or other internet video medias which broadcast in H.264 you are much better of shooting in 720 30 fps. because thats what they stream in. Lets face it, your little "film project" or interview is not going to make it into the cinema. Define your end solution and set your camera up for that. Most interviews or short clips end up on the internet and H.264 codec in 30 fps is the norm. Encode in MPEG4 with a Sorenson encoder and you are good to go.

[sueper8]

@mYOzZyKaT

Well, well, well. So you got it all figured out, dont' you? Man, you can NOT shot in 30fps if you are in a country that is powered on 50hz. You will get some flicker in your footage. There is a reason why they shoot 30fps in 60hz countries and 25fps in 50hz countries. But I guess you are from the States anyway. So you are much better of staying there. Because let's face it, you're not going to make it to Europe!

[mYOzZyKaT]

@sueper8 what on earth are you talking about? You make absolutely no sense in the real world. And I am from Europe. How high were you when you wrote that?

[sueper8]

@mYOzZyKaT

OK you do not get it! All I am saying is that if you shoot 30fps with a camera like this in a European country and you apply the 180 degree shutter rule, you WILL end up with a flickery image! It is by no means better to shoot in 30fps. Even if your final output is for web encoding.

[mYOzZyKaT]

@sueper8 Are you serious? I must say this is most amusing... where do you get your information from?

[antoinevideoblog]

@sueper8 the majority of screens play progressive images so it doesnt really matter. 25p, 30p etc, thats all fine for youtube.

[soufianDEMOS]

The reason behind setting up the shutter speed at twice its frame rate is because in film camera, the shutter is often set at 180degree angle. That simple.

[steppingstonefilms]

Hi

What would be the optimum shutter speed for 24p? Still 50?

Brilliant stuff.

Thanks.

[Fleshofmywounds]

I love this keep it up forever please so informative :D

[YouFirstEye]

50 for 25p; 48 for 24p; 60 for 30p. The shutter speed should not be slower than 2x the framerate.

[MrJonnyJones]

@YouFirstEye There is no 48, so for 24p it will be the same as 25p, so 50 :-) I shoot using 720 50p as I film a lot of car action stuff, so I use 100, works very nicely!

[pkhirosz]

@YouFirstEye why?

[YouFirstEye]

@pkhirosz Shutter speed and frame rate are mechanically linked. Motion picture cameras used in traditional film cinematography employ a mechanical rotating shutter. The shutter rotation is synchronized with film being pulled through the gate, hence shutter speed is a function of the frame rate and shutter angle. With traditional shutter angle of 180° film is exposed for 1/48 second at 24 frame per second.

[mrsujeet9]

hi sir u r too good,please tell us basics of post production with canon d -slrs

[alienufosarereal]

what does he mean by "you've gained two stops latitude" ?

[OdisWilliamsMedia]

Ok thanks...My shots didn't look good at all on the "Neutral" setting..Setting up in "Standard" right now.

[OdisWilliamsMedia]

Note that Philip said to use the "Neutral" setting, how come the video shows him setting up using "Standard?"

[eirikso]

@OdisWilliamsMedia He noted that I was currently shooting in Neutral. But recommends custom settings as shown in the video.

[gyaq]

I wish the T2i had the odd iso settings.

[alienufosarereal]

@gyaq yeah same, but then again lets look at the price differences between the t2i and the 5d..

[INTERNATIONALvids]

@gyaq - it now does with the free magic lantern hack

[Tackleqb]

did u use the 24-105mm during the interview? shot looks beautiful

[eirikso]

@Tackleqb Yes, The interview was shot entirely with the 24-105 f4 L IS and a Roede Mic.

[SimenMyrberget]

Sharpness and contrast down to Minimum? And just a slight adjustment of saturation?

[Haakon680]

@SimenMyrberget Best way for later editing I suppose

[lowcrust]

Awesome Eirik, thank A LOT for this!

[Nannirk]

Awesomeness. I don't know who Mr Bloom is, but he seems to know his shutter speeds.

[stevedaniels5]

Cool.  Thanks for posting.