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  • Thank you for posting this, FFreeThinker.

  • i enjoyed this vid

  • you have some great stuff here

  • Sam, you make a lot of sense. We all have brains and that should tell us whats right and wrong. Keep up the good work.

  • Sam  we love you. You are so smart and so sexy.

  • 2:03. Boom.

    

  • Some surprisingly good points, considering he's an atheist. Also looks like Ben Stiller.

  • There's something about scientific atheists and agnostics that have a tremendous amount of grounding, poise and confidence compared to the 'wild eyed' religious fanatics out there that hide behind a fake plastered smile. It's because guys like Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and many others know that they are not living the lie that is religion, they are truly enlightened and intellectually emancipated human beings. Keep up the good work Sam.

  • ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).

  • NEW SPECIES: Although new species have come into existence, they don't carry any new genes. They've become new species only because they can't be crossed back with the original parent stock for various biological reasons. A biological "kind" allows for new species but not new genes. Nature has no ability to invent new genes for new traits. Only limited variations and adaptations are possible in nature, and all strictly within a biological "kind" (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.).

  • HOW DOES DNA MAKE A BODY? When you divide a cake the parts are smaller than the original cake and the cake never gets bigger. When we were a cell and that cell divided, the new cells were the same size as the original cell and we got bigger. New material had to come from somewhere. That new material came from food. The sequence in our DNA directed our mother's food we received in the womb to become new cells forming all the tissues and organs of our body. Read my article: HOW DID MY DNA MAKE ME?

  • HUMAN EMBRYO doesn't have true gills or tail. These and other arguments have long been discarded by most evolutionists and not supported by any modern embryologist. Then, what are these structures? Read "Does The Human Embryo Go Through Animal Stages" at the Institute for Creation Research site. Briefly, what look like gills are early formation of facial and throat regions. What looks like a tail is the coccyx which grows faster than the rest of the body. The coccyx supports the pelvic muscles.

  • Actually that religion wouldn't spread very well. Because the moment these kids study science they'd realize the 70 demon story is bullshit. They wouldn't spread it to THEIR kids, and the religion would be dead.

    Fact is, rational thinking IS opposed to religion. Which is magic thinking.

  • @TheSkunkCat 70 demons? Is that what you heard?

  • I love how he uses "ingroup". Makes me feel useful as a socioligist:D

  • this is way off-topic but...i wanna make out with sam harris

  • Religion that helps is true, religion that hinders is not.

  • @TheColaGoodfellow

    That's a convenient definition of religion. But it's a false definition of "true."

  • If "moral intuitions" evolved then they are no more "right" than it is right for a person to have five fingers rather than four. This is the one area where atheists struggle. I've seen richard dawkins contradict himself by one second saying that physical truths are the only kind of truths, but a few seconds later saying there are also moral truths. That's the problem: without invoking something outside of pure reason and physical reality there is no way to defend any moral choice.

  • I think the strength of Sam Harris story is the fact that he critisises religion without (extensively) using natural sciences. For most people in the west (at least Europe) it is clear that religion fails on this terrain but doesn't explain why it can be bad. Harris tell's preciesely why religion can still be bad.

    Historical sidenote: Slavery as talked about in the bible is not always the 'body ownership' as it appeard our history. (Slavery still isn't not a good thing however)

  • i love how calm and rational he is...we need more of people like him and less polemical angry people

  • OMG where did they find this guy. I see his lips moving but i only hear diahrea. Jesus presented us with a dichotomy, the battle between good and evil. Yes that is devisive and i will stand by that belief and defend the good against the evil. According to you im a religious nut but let me ask you something mr harris, what is your definition of good and evil and do you have the courage of your convictions and where do you get these definitions. I for one got them from Jesus.

  • @iwannaseeu2be Dude, are you for real?

  • @iwannaseeu2be "...I for one got them from Jesus..." what? You mean when you saw him personally last week? If you believe in God, then dont watch these mate, these videos are for us to watch and enjoy. For us to come together and share ideas; you lot have churches and mosques, etc. Leave us be...

  • @iwannaseeu2be It absolutely WOULD sound like diarrhea to the uneducated or closeminded. I think religion is evil. I have reasons for that position. MY definition of evil involves acts or philosophies which cause SUFFERING. Where do acts and philosophies causing suffering come from? The bible, your silly religious certainty, blind convictions, refusal to embrace courageous skepticism... and the untold harm it causes. ya...thanks jesus. fail

  • Not all religions are good. You can not compare Christianity with Islam. Jesus was holy who spent his life doing good while Mohamed was a epileptic, sensual man having sex with many women and even with eight years girl.

  • @franciszek8D the character of jesus spent his life upholding the doctrines and power of a god who thought it acceptable that Lots daughters rape him and have children by him, who killed infants, women and children, who instructed others to do the same...thats not holy. When you call him holy you turn a blind eye to COUNTLESS passages of the bible...shame on you

  • Morality, a system, Evolution has, to flter GOOD traits, from BAD, in a group. Where's the mind cracking COSMIC QUESTION, in THAT ? Pretty self-explanitory, I would suggest.

  • Morality comes from social values. Understanding of what is good for the entire society is the key component for morality. Let me give an example. Cannibalism was popular during pre-historic era. At that time there were no Holy Books. But early humans realized that this is immoral, i.e. it is not good for the species. And bcoz of that moral conduct, our species survived.

  • If these religious people don't blow up our planet my causing Armageddon you'll see one day in the far future these Abrahamic religions would be a thing of the past just like Ancient Greek Religions and Persian Religions are today. 

  • A person is good. he wants to do good. He finds a philosophy for his good, and thus he does good, and the philosophy doesn't do anything.

  • @Kan2209 "A good person will do good, a bad person will do bad. But for a good person to do evil, it takes religion"

    A philosophy like religion will not be a harmless insanity. It has rules, mandates, scriptures, orders. You are obliged to follow those orders, even if you don't want to (in the past and sometimes today). So no, evil can come from your ideology.

  • @Darthmas2242 Religion does make good people do evil, but my point wsa, that religion will not make evil people do any significant good. If a person is good, he might find a religion which suits his good intent. WIth it comes the bad stuff obviously, that's why I quote that same phrase you quoted me a lot myself. Those good people might be pulled down and dragged in garbage ending in them doing evil whilst thinking they're being good.

    Good people are good without religion.

  • @Kan2209 Ahhhh, I misunderstood your comment. Well, at least people can understand it now.

  • Scripture is clear, it supports slavery!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let that fact detonate in your brain for a second.

  • Harris say's that without religion there would be no more suicide bombers. But then why have the secular Marxist Tamil Tigers carried out more suicide bombings than AL-Qaeda? And why were Japanese kamikazi's willing to fly planes into warships for the sake of their motherland?

  • scientsts and mathematicians created weopons of mass destruction!

  • @1blueshifted And of what relavence is that? A good deal of scientists...especially back in the earlier 1900's were religous people. But creating the technology for something and using them personally on other humans are two very different things. Regardless the technology for WMD's are great findings though they are used for the wrong reasons. But what is to say that the scientists who created such things weren't religous people? Maybe they were Christians...who knows.

  • @1blueshifted ...and the religious are the ones who created the need for them!!!

  • he is right our morality come from social needs to us for us to survive as a speacies the proof of it the morals that was in the first century is not the same as today some disapear some appear or are modified as we continu to evolve as a society

  • holy books bursting with cruelty.

  • 17 demons? blasphemy!. there are only 16 demons. believe and repent, or pieowle will eat your testicles for all eternity.

  • @oeppevnvpeb Atheist! Believing in one less demon!

  • @oeppevnvpeb surely not ALL of them?!?!?!

  • @oeppevnvpeb What about the people who like people to eat their testies? I've heard it's the bee's knees.

  • Even tjhat would be twisted by some idiot like this, Christianity has been twisted since the beginning, see all the writings about false teachings. Isn't his talk of expanding moral boundaries an aspect of his religion. Slavery is not endorsed by the Bible, it is condone and called bad, and killing "sinners" went out with the resurrection. SO WHICH SIDE HERE IS BLOWING HATE SPEECH?

  • I think Sam needs to dig deeper into WHY it is bad for people to exist with these delusions, because the argument of "but it makes people do good" leads to the fear of its absence. How can we overcome this without having good reasons that delusion is objectively bad? Neurological reasons, Psychological reasons, etc. need to be formulated to show people that living via placebo is dangerous.

  • Wow!! Did you guys hear?? Allah and the god of Abraham are going to get it on this Friday night in a steel cage match!! No rules fight!! Winner gets to be in charge of all of the suffering in the world! Both gods said they love to allow suffering and can't wait till Friday comes!!

  • You want something useful? I CLAIM G-rated shock value to be useful, but since I'm a fundamentalist, I refuse to make it a religion.

  • "by 17 demons" ahaha awesome.

  • "Thou shalt not kill" is such a pathetic commandment because "God" breaks his own rule. LOL! Pathetic.

  • this man wants to be the leader of a religious cult called atheism

  • All religions are cults.

  • yes they are at some point...that is why his laws are spread through many "religions" but there is only one truth..thank God there are many ways to get there

  • You can't call atheism cult nor religion... It's like once said, saying bald is a hair color...

  • is that why in some states its been classified as a religion?

  • That doesn't make it more true that the lack of religion can't be called religion...

  • regardless of what i might view it as (atheism) i wasn't the one that passed a law saying its a religion. Oddly though....it comes from a system that looks at the facts (not being clouded by "the so called theistic-worship) & came to a conclusion that atheism is indeed a religion.

  • It's their problem if they don't open a dictionnary before making such claim, again, claiming something doesn't make it more real, i.e. god... Their idiocy...

  • Making gravity unconstitutionnal won't make you fly...

  • Name calling.....is that what you are about? But i guess you don't have to worry about ever being punished if you can keep being anonymous & spout your hate..?

  • LOL... Reality shifting alert ! ! !

  • you know the system i was referring to was the courts of law.......yeah. Who did you think i was speaking about?

  • In some state you say, I guess it's in Texas and other fundies majority states... So, yes, reality shifts in those, like in the creation museum...

    BTW, it's not a federal decision...

    Trying to bend reality to your convenience won't make you right...

  • huh? ...i think you are reading something into what i wrote....i'm not trying to bend anything. I'm not even "trying" to be right. its just whats happening.

    Whats with the finger pointing anyway?

  • he speaks much about people who try to hold themselves up...his message is a wolf in sheeps cloathing...id rather have a God fearing man for neighbour than a man that fears nothing

  • Surely because you can't imagine people acting decently without fear of punishment...

    You just show that without that fear of punishment you'd go berserk, what most atheists don't do...

  • laws are never in place (regardless of spiritual beliefs...or complete lack thereof) for the sensible lot....they are there for those that WOULD go berserk.

  • "id rather have a god fearing man for a neighbour than a man that fears nothing"

    Yes, I'm sure you'd be more comfortable living next to some jihadi muslims. Don't troll videos that you're too mentally deficient to understand.

  • i never said anything about radicals...thats why athiests offend me, they are in your face radical followers...but you are probably pro choice and pro gay marriage so there is not uch you believe in except non belief...in other words you hold yourself to nothing

  • I prefer to "hold myself to nothing", which is a ridiculous straw-man argument, than to hold myself to fables and fairy tales as if they were true.

    And since you're clearly a right-wing shill, how do you feel about the fact that Jesus specifically condoned socialism in the bible? Do you have a rambling, incoherent response for that?

  • i guess jesus would not be happy with obama then?

    whomever jesus was i think we can agree he only wanted people to live decent lives and be good to one another

  • Yes I agree that Jesus would want us to live decent lives and respect each other. I do my best to live that way and I'm an atheist.

    That's why Jesus would likely be in favor of things like universal health care.

  • i would agree with universal health care if governments were not so corrupt...and private health care should be an option...here in canada i can bring my dog in for an mri and pay for the service and have it the next day...but if i want one were looking at a 3 month wait...and your government was more corrupt under bush and is doing the same if not worse with obama...

  • @VesusSheist

    Eh, Jesus showed complete apathy for politics I think. He never took a stand against the Roman government or anything.

    I'm sure he'd be in favor of us all pooling our resources together voluntarily to care for each other, but he wouldn't try to get a government to force it to happen.

  • If Jesus showed an apathy for politics, why do christian fundamentalists do the exact opposite? They're striving to merge religion with politics..are they going against the teachings of their savior?

  • @VesusSheist

    Uh, yeah. Do you realize that Jesus condemned religious leaders more than anyone in the gospels? "What Would Jesus Do?" Well, according to the gospels, he'd probably find a church leader to bash.

    Why do they go the political route? My guess is they want to be in control, to be on top, to win it all. But I think sometimes the Biblical God don't want people that worship him to win. He seems to want them to be broken down and lose first, and THEN to win when all is hopeless.

  • DonDahab, I am puzzled; you say athiests offend you as we are "in your face radical followers.." Radical? Followers of what? The only thing atheists have in common is not sharing the supernatural beliefs of your religion or any of the other religions.

    And why do you assume someone who is pro gay marriage "believes in nothing"? They believe in treating people decently, not victimising some as 2nd class citizens just because you don't like their orientation!

    First stone, anyone?

  • I totally agree. This DonDahab is a perfect example of a logicless brain washed blind follower. Thank you for being an intelligent human being & not a mindless follower.

  • DonDahab, if you'd rather have a god fearing neighbour, have mine:- the most unreasonable, uncharitable person I've ever known. Or the Christian lady across the road who invents malicious gossip, laughs as she boasts of petty stealing & selling counterfeit DVDs, and of logging into her children's Bebo accounts pretending to be them to bully other people's children

    My other neighbours are like me; atheists who would never stoop so low as these women who, like you, think themselves superior

  • thats the worst of it...and overall religious people are better neighbours...you got lucky...it's what you dont know that is dangerous...but go on believing in the perverted leftists you call felow non belevers

  • Jeffery Dahmer BTK and John Wayne Gacy were religious. You want them living next to you? Go right ahead

  • just imagine how bad it would be if we were all believers in nothing...pinheads

  • Oh & atheist dont believe in nothing, they just dont believe in god. everything else is still based on real justice. Ur so dumb u believe atheist just walk around all day saying "Do what ever u want, i dont care, kill my kids & take my cash. i dont believe in god so what ur doing is okay". Good & evil still exist in a godless universe. lunatic

  • what is the sum of all good genius

  • Nothing. There is no meaning behind it. You are endlessly searching for meaning that isnt there.Cant something be good for the sake of being good anymore? Not for you. Answer this. Do you believe we should stone to death all non virgins who marrie? If you dont then you're not following your own book. You pick and choose what you do and dont want to listen to. You cant call yourself religious and only believe in some of the book. If you do you're a sick lunatic who believes in anything he reads.

  • wrong non believer...if there is good and you said there was, then there is the sum of all good and i ask you of no faith to tell me what that would be

  • @DonDahab - "what is the sum of all good genius."

    Video response => watch?v=agTHok-W_PI

  • @DonDahab

    Good by default has no sum. It always adds up, and there is no limit to it. If there was, we would stop evolving.

    Example: That computer is "good enough".

    Just saving one chold in that fire is "good enough" for a fireman.

    Trying to add it up is to add a limit to the good someone can do, which is a typically theist view (since only God is infinitely good)

  • if they folowed there religion none of it would happen, but thats why alot of atheists dont...they want to excuse thier behaviour...like homosexuality...you go gay guys

  • People who follow christianity are taught to kill non virgins if they marrie. They are taught that a slave master can beat his slave to near death & not be punished. If anything the serial killers i named are more christian then you. Psalm 137:9 Blessed is the one who grabs your little children & smashes them against a rock. Look it up if u dont believe me. lunatic

  • Hmm..... religious people are better neighbors? Really? Hmmm well, as long as you don't live next to a priest and you have little boys, or as long as you don't live next to a fanatic Muslim, or as long as you don't live next to extremist anti abortion religious nut with a gun!!! yeah, ok

  • @99minerkc Well the truth is that religious people are lovely neighbors... as long as you're religious. Specifically, of their religion.

    Otherwise, you're a monster.

  • @99minerkc Religious people are more boring than your average Atheist. They're afraid to do anything but walk the straight and narrow. They're like steak and eggs without salt and pepper. They're like vanilla ice cream in a shop that sells 100 flavors. They can't swear or flirt or dance with strangers without the fear of eternal damnation. And the concept of Jesus dying for their sins is a simple evolution of sacrificing goats (scapegoat) to wash away their sins. An historical fact.

  • "The most insidious boundary in our world is religion"?

    I am in complete disagreeance. More wars and boundaries have been fought over from Socio-economical standpoints....money and greed vastly dominate over dogma by a longshot.

    And if you ever ever got rid of all religion....do you honestly think mankind would stop fighting? (and the viewpoint of "that would make a good start" is complete garbage) quit pointing the finger and try "Being the change you wish to see in the world."

  • So we should continue believing in invisible men with magical powers simply because it might not be "the most insidious boundary in our world"?

    Religious faith is like a contest to see who can lie to themselves the hardest. It's a crutch for people who are too weak-minded to think for themselves. You can keep religion. People with fully functioning brains don't need it.

  • Assumption: invisible men.

    Ridicule: magical powers.

    Accusation: religious faith, a lie to oneself

    Ridicule: a crutch

    Falsehood: for weak-minded people

    Debasing: people with fully-functioning brains don't need it.

    Is that your truths?

  • @hexusziggurat

    I think you'll find my, "Do Atheists Have Magical Powers?" video interesting. False, but interesting.

  • whats the usefullnessof a neverending machine? Don't get me wrong I adore science perks. But science is simply a neverending tool..it'll never stop but what have you really gained besides more humanitarian assets? You don't gain a further understanding of morality, no further sense of community, no further establishment of love, no more understanding of the spiritual realm (though there may be a doohickey invented to look into this)

    "a much better world" ..in "your" vision Sam..the ego rolls on

  • Sure you could spread a religion Sam...but it would not be based on the Word of God.....and oddly, atheism is now considered a "religion" in some states since it is a stance in terms of "religious viewpoint".

  • There are only 13 demons. It wasn't that long ago when Mr Harris wanted us to go back in the closet. I am glad he changed his mind. I would like to see him be more specific when he attacks the Bible. When my neighbor questioned my atheism and I defended myself by stating that there is proof that the old testament is false. He said they found the arch and that is proof that the Bible is true. When I convinced him that they didn't find the arch he wanted to know more about atheism. Yes we can!

  • nice

  • believing is sometimes dangerous, some ppl beliefe that:

    - saying "no" is impolite...

    - sceptics are conspircy theorists

    - conspiracy is theory

    - believing in jesus means saving their souls

    - praying for help is better than helping others

    - its gods will if you shit your pants...yeah

    better they start to realize that if theres a god, he is just the game host, the map creator watching the current network session until noone joints any more... ;)) greez

  • If a person believes something is true in this sense of "faith," their belief has become separated from facts and reality. Just as evidence plays no role in producing the belief, evidence, reason, and logic can't disprove the belief. A belief that is not dependent on reality also can't be refuted by reality.. It's also arguably why it's so easy for faith to become a motivation for committing unspeakable crimes.

  • Harris is the best. He wrote his book before the other three "horsemen", too. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the others plenty but Harris is the most articulate and gets right to the heart of the matter best. He's also the most sympathetic, calm and collected.

  • I agree!

    A bit of Hitchens now and then makes for a nice "balancing act" though. :)

    Couldn't resist the pun.

    no flame intended.

  • Sam's new religon might be closer to the truth than you think.

  • Just discovered Sam Harris by browsing youtube. From what I have seen Sam Harris is by far the best person in the public eye who can articulate rational thinking. absolutely brilliant!

  • Yeah I have to agree 100%, although I think RIchard Dawkins is equally as eloquent and brilliant.

    Christopher Hitchens is also VERY brilliant, but he's quite arrogant...so based on that, I think Harris and Dawkins are better suited to represent the atheist community as a whole, as they have been doing, and doing very well.

  • I think there is a role for all of them. Its actually more of a spectrum of attack on theology. Sam Harris' arguements are actually rather benign when compared to those of Dawkins and Hitchens, but they are still equally as brilliant and equally as useful.

    Actually one of the better ways to cause the spread of an idea through society is to make it contraversial, it almost forces people to talk about ti. I think that is Hitchens role in the discussion of religion.

  • To be honest, i think you need Hitchens arrogance to some extent. because i think that people like Harris and Dawkins are sometimes to polite to people who really need to be treated with contempt. eg, when Dawkins debated that Wendy Wright moron, I think Hitchens would have been far better at putting her in her place

  • I always hear hitchens and hitchens comment alot, im not familiar with his work, is it worth to watch him on the debates? im a harris and dawkins fan.

  • Always calm and let's people finish when he's in a debate (the other person (religious) always bulldozers over him). he's absolutely a great person to represent atheism. :)

  • @davepest He is excellent in terms of rational thinking, but I would have to say that Richard Dawkins is the best I've seen.

  • @KaraRvn Best in what way????

  • @davepest

    He is the ambassador of logic.

    Even though I LOVE Hitchens and Dawkins, Harris just has this air of intellectual honesty and gently opens up blind people's eyes. Hitchens does it with alcohol. (pun intended)

  • @Assaultpredator So, so true. I also love Hitch and Dawkins - entertaining as well as relevant. But Harris is so much younger and wiser than Hitch, Dawkins, or Dennet when it comes to these topics. The logic Harris speaks blows me away every time. Were I religious and at least semi intelligent I wouldn't be able to sleep at night after listening to Harris. I wish Sam many good years.

  • You're talking about "God". What's that??

    What are you talking about??

    "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" '.

    I don't even know what you're talking about! And I don't think you do either.

  • You're going in circles now and I have work in the morning, I'm tired of explaining he same thing over and over. anyways you've been thoroughly refuted and your weak and hole filled arguments were fun to destroy. If I must I will get back to it in the morning, gnight.

  • At the moment God created the universe, surely He knew all that would happen throughout it's entire history. If so, then He is directly responsible for all our actions - we have no more choice in what we do than a clockwork toy does. If not, then we are part of some huge experiment which God set in motion without the faintest idea of what would happen - he sits back and observes as people die in terrible wars and plagues, ticking off boxes on His clipboard and writing notes.

  • I am saying that given that we could've responded quickly enough with jets, the use of something made for killing would be justified in it's use, even with the loss of the innocent lives on board, you would be saving thousands of others.

    If god knows the future then we don't really have free will. If god set all of the universe into motion, including all the events leading to my actions, then free will really does not exist.

  • "the world would cry DISCRIMINATION."

    Wether or not they cryed discrimination if you could have used missiles for instances to take out the planes before they hit the building, preventing the deaths of thousands, this is fully justified use of a weapon used for killing.

  • Islam is a religon, not muslim. Wow you are getting pretty bad! Anyways there was of course the crusades, inquistions and numerous other wars propelled by religion. Christianity displays constant intolerance for others. Especially other beliefs.

    What makes the Christian god more possible then any other god out there from the hundreds of religions who have scriptures and "eyewitnesses" as well. It's ridiculous.

  • You already refuted yourself on this one. You got destroyed so now you are grasping at straws.

    As I said the knowledge to create a sword isn't evil, it's how you use it. Certainly a bomb is used to kill people but if you could use one on the people who comitted the acts on 9/11 you certainly would because it would save thousands of lives.

  • "I didn't use that word, I quoted it. From historian R. Hickman who expressed the influence of Darwinism on Hitler. So, you lose that one. :)"

    No actually you don't, and claiming victory like that just makes you look desperate and pathetic to have something in your weak arguments. What does Hitler accepting evolution have to do with anything? Most of the educated world accepts evolution, does that mean they are embracing insane ideologies? No.

  • You're right, the problem isn't god because god doesn't exist. Right now the middle east is divided because of religion. You have Muslims killing Christians and Jews, Jews killing muslims.

    You have people who think they will be granted a specific reward for commiting horrible acts against innocents.

  • "What is the purpose of nuclear weapons? What are is it's function? Can a nuclear weapon not be used to kill? A sword can be used to block, and not be used to kill. But can a nuclear weapon do the same"

    Man your arguments keep getting weaker and weaker. A sword can be USED to block but it was MADE to kill, you just keep refuting yourself this is hilarious! A wasn't made with sharp edges and point to block, it was made to pierce through a persons body or cut them apart...KILL them.

  • Evolutionary ideas? Haha, you are using the word out of context. An evolutionary idea is different from the scientific theory of evolution, this is biology not politics.

    Indeed I do admire Darwin he was a smart man that brought great advances to the understanding of our world. Religion has not.

    It's funny looking at statistics, countries that have a majority of population that accept evolution, also tend to have very good education and less crime. Like Japan and Sweden for example.

  • "The intentions of a blacksmith is to create a weapon to defend ones self with."

    And other countries have nuclear weapons, having your own is a form of defense. Swords were not made with the intention of defense, they were made to kill a person wether in defense or offense. Simply put swords were made to kill people. You just prove my point further, it's not the knowledge of something used in it's creation that makes it evil, it's HOW you use it. Your argument very much falls apart.

  • Wrong, science is just a system for acquiring knowledge. Because people used to kill each other with swords does that make blacksmithing evil? No it's the decision to use the sword on an innocent that makes it evil, not the knowledge used in its creation. Your argument really just falls apart.

    Darwin was an amazing scientists and it was his dedicated work that helped bring us to where we are now, if you knew anything about science you would respect him for what he did but you know nothing.

  • If you've read anything into history you might actually understand the decision to use the atomic bomb. You understand another country would have built one if we didn't? This all goes back to your false association of science with evil though.

  • If Darwinism is a communist ideology then that means evolution is a communist ideology, it's impossible to associate a scientific theory with a political ideology...your argument has so many holes in it. Especially it being a "racist one".

    You keep making assertions but you haven't backed them up one bit, you just keep making them.

    Yes it was very logical to use that bomb, the Japanese were beat and they knew it, but they weren't going to surrender.

  • Ok so I am a darwinist. My guess is you don't accept evolution, which isn't surprising for someone as ignorant as you.

  • "Now, you're just throwing out personal attacks out your butt. You're making a sad and desperate attempt. Very desperate. "

    So far all you've done is prove yourself ignorant, please continue to do so it's amusing.

  • False association. An assertion that you certainly can't back up, you're the one who's in denial here. Darwinism isn't a communist ideology, are you dense? Hiroshima actually prevented the deaths of thousands of American lives and a lot more Japanese lives, the Japanese would've fought for every bloody square inch. Do you even think about that ? No because your argument is dense and lacks any logic to it.

  • Yes of course, anyone can make up a word. Guess I'm a newtonist and gravitationalist to, oh well.

    Is this the best that you can do, intent on proving what a child you are and how you lack intellecutal capacity to actually make any good points? How sad for you.

  • "By the way it was science that gave us the Nuclear bomb, not religion. Experiments done on humans for the sake of science. See, the contradiction? I do."

    No I don't. Science also gave us medicine and longer lifespans, it gave us technology that makes communication, learning and brings more comfort to our lives. It's saved literally billions of childrens lives because of vaccines, treatments.

    Because science can create a nuclear bomb doesn't make it evil, the person who uses it does.

  • No such thing as darwinism, don't make up words. Just like there isn't Einsteinism or Newtonism.

    Mao, Stalin are bad arguments, lack of belief in a god isn't why they killed so many people it was communist ideology and totalitarianism. Communism is similar to religion itself.

    On the other hand you can witness what religion has done in the middle east, people dying over it on a daily basis. You don't see atheists blowing themselve sup or shooting people.

  • Because people have opinions, and Sam Harris expresses his in an intelligent, respectful and thoughtful way. Sorry but religion is not exempt from criticism, especially when it affects those who have nothing to do with it.

    Sams point is to take out the taboo with religion in being able to have open discussions about it and its negative affect on our civilization and society. He's trying to open conversation in a manner that's productive and expansive of the mind.