IDOITS Jesus is a prophet, sent by Allah, like all other prophets. He is nor god, nor son. Their is no holy spirits, exept by the angels of Allah. Jesus (Isa) is a beloved prophet. Their is no trinity, only oneness of Allah. I pray and hope for all of you to understand. Thank You.
@apopyalips SING IT B BOAT. But in spite of all temptations To belong to other nations, He remains an Englishman! He remains an Englishman! ALL. For in spite of all temptations To belong to other nations, He remains an Englishman! He remains an Englishman!
@apopyalips SING IT A ALL. He is an Englishman! BOAT. He is an Englishman! For he himself has said it, And it's greatly to his credit, That he is an Englishman! ALL. That he is an Englishman! BOAT. For he might have been a Roosian, A French, or Turk, or Proosian, Or perhaps Itali-an! ALL. Or perhaps Itali-an!
One common ending is -ου, much like English's. -ου is masculine singular genitive case, a case like English possessive case. Thus κυρίου (kyriou) means Lord's or "of the Lord." In many of the passages I presented to you from BDAG the meaning is YHWH's or "of YHWH."
Pardon me for being long-winded, but I thot u might need to understand that BDAG lists references to κυρίου under its entry for κύριος, since κυρίου is the same word in the genitive case (like possessive case).
κύριος = kyrios; The Greek vowel upsilon ύ (accented here) is generally transliterated into English with y.
Greek is a language that declines nouns. English does that a little. We use 's for possessive case singular, rather equivalent to our preposition "of" e.g., John's book = the book of John. We then have s' for possessive plural. Greek has many more endings for nouns than 's & s'. [cont]
@Jesusisposttrib It is an interesting passage. & u cud debate if Simon M was saved or not from the passage. There is household forgiveness 4 Chrs who already have all sins forgiven. What is undebatable is that over & over U R told that faith is sufficient for salvation -- prayer is often not mentioned. I think it is usual for men to 1st express their faith in a prayer, but prayer itself is a work (works can't save). Faith can be expressed in a prayer; Rom 10:13 presupposes faith (see context).
@apop claims: "when jesus prayed, he didn't say "my father...", he said "our father" becuase he knew God is the father of all. how did he became the son of God, through resurrection from the dead, read romans 1:3-5"
Lets see you prove that
1) Jesus always used our with Father when He prayed & said "Father."
2) Jesus ever prayed saying, "Our Father" (instead of giving instruction to disciples thus to pray),
@apopy, you claim: "God is one spirit with one identity" Yes, but let's see you prove that the oneness has no complexity within it. Is it reasonable to conceive of God existing in eternity past & being personal, but having only one person to Him, one ego?
@apop I am unaware of any Trinity except in the Bible. If you have proof of a Trinity (Triune God; one essence w/ 3 ego's) anywhere else, please post the proof. Pse don't bother to post Triads, like a male & female god along with their offspring by sex with each other.
@apopyalips I think I already have Esword, but I don't use it becs I own a $5000 + version of Accordance. I have a master's degree in Greek. The word Lord (kyrios) is Greek sometimes means YHWH. You can prove that by checking the occurrences of kyrios. When YHWH occurs in a quote from the OT, the NT renders it kyrios. Rom 10:13 is an example quoting from Joel 2. In context kyrios = the Lord Jesus; but it is quote from the OT where the word is YHWH.
The Lord Jesus is called the Son relative to God the Father many times. Thus He is the Son (Son of God). He is also God (Before Abraham was born, I AM.) Rom 10:13 calls Him YHWH.
"For whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD (KYRIOS) shall be saved." In context, LORD (KYRIOS) = Jesus. But the passage is a quote from Joel 2 where the word KYRIOS in Greek stands for YHWH in Hebrew. Thus Rom 10:13 takes a saying from Joel which speaks of YHWH & applies it to Christ.
Epic 103 The Lord Jesus is rightly called God-the-Son, because He is both called God (YHWH) in fact, El Gibbor (mightly God in Isa 9), & He is also called the Son. God-the-Son puts the two together.
"Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD, YAHWEH of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: This is MY NAME FOREVER, and this is MY MEMORIAL unto All generations!"
@Jesusisposttrib So what's the argument here? I didn't read the whole thing. If it's about the order of salvation. Repenting Baptism and Holy Spirit then just remember Repentance comes first and the other two can be done in any order it's just that all three are required for salvation
@superjam18 The only thing required for salvation on the sinner's part is trusting Christ as Savior, believing in Him. Believe on the LJC & u shall be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His monogene Son that whosoever believes in Him shud not perish, but have everlasting life. That repentence which saves is a change of mind from trusting self, works, an idol or anything else (like baptism) to trusting Christ as Savior. When u trust Christ, the Holy Spirit regenerates & baptizes you
The thing is called "salvation," not "validation." Validation is for good people with good works that God approves. Salvation is for us wretched sinners, which means by God's grace He does the saving; we are the savee. For by grace you have been saved and that not of yourselves, not of works lest any man should boast. For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works. (Ephesians 2). Works don't save. But once saved, good works will come.
I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. & the life which I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God Who loved me and gave Himself for me. (Galatians 2).
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
Couple this verse with Matthew 7:22-23 and you will know the truth about Jesus Christ.
@Jesusisposttrib You are in a Cult and now you show your self to be Reprobate and after 2 or 3 Admonitions I leave you to your Devil loving ways you Demon!!!
I narrowly look upon you and Tell you To Repent or Go To Hell!!!
James says Faith without Works Are Dead James 2:17,18 James Obeyed Acts 2:38!
@Jesusisposttrib The Church was Born in Acts 2:4 not before. Read carefully Acts 16:33 They were Baptized Surely if it was not necessary it would not have been done because of the Scourge marks on the backs of Paul and Silas!!!
@Jesusisposttrib The Thief on the Cross is what is called an Old Testament saint because he died before the Resurrection of Jesus Christ and before the Accession
The New Testament did not Become Effective until The Day of Pentecost around 32 AD so The Thief went to Paradise which was called Abraham's Bosom like every other Old Testament saved person!
That is a Elementary school lesson that kids in the Churches we attend know!
How is it , you a Teacher of sorts don't know these things?
@Jesusisposttrib Read Acts 8:17 and 10:48 The order of the Gift of the Holy Ghost is not important ,you are making a Straw-man argument , Repentance always comes First , then Either Baptism or The Gift of the Holy Ghost!!!
Read ALL of the Bible not Pick verse here and there ALL of the Scripture
@Jesusisposttrib Brainwashed? No Blood Washed buddy not a Cult but I'd rather be a Cult that Obeys Jesus Christ the Lord than a Disobedient and Rebellious old man who thinks he knows the Bible and can't understand Elementary scriptures like
@Jesusisposttrib Study Acts 2:38,39 and You will see for Yourself You call Jesus a Liar because Luke 24:47 and Mark 16:16 states You must be Baptized to be saved!
@Jesusisposttrib Acts 10:48 After the Gentiles received the Holy Ghost as the Disciples in Acts 2:4 Peter Commanded them to Be Baptized in the Name of the Lord!!
Acts 19 Same thing , All that are Ordained to Eternal Life recieve this message with Gladness and Obey only those who account themselves not Worthy of Eternal Life Reject the Word of God and Thrust it from themselves !!! Acts 13:46,48
@Jesusisposttrib Peter would beg to Differ as well as Jesus ( 1 Pet 3:21, Mrk 16:16 and Luke 24:47) Baptism applies the Blood , The Blood was shed and Now it has to be applied for Remission of sins!!! Acts 2:38!!!
If you don't Obey Acts 2:38 you have No One to Blame But yourself!!!
@Jesusisposttrib Remember the Day ,this day well, because it will either be the Day you wee almost saved or the Day you will regret from the bowls of Hell , the Day you went to a Website that had the Truth!!!
You can Reject The Truth of the Mighty God in Christ Jesus and Acts 2:38 or you can embrace it!! But you will be held accountable!!!
@Jesusisposttrib Have you obeyed Acts 2:38? 1914 was just a Revival not the Beginning , The Beginning was Acts 2:4 and The First Alter Call was Acts 2:38,39!!!
3,000 joined the Church on the First day on that Day of Pentecost around 32 AD and we have not stopped adding since!!!
That's why the Catholics killed so many Real Christians during the Dark ages past the Reformation and unto the 20th Century where We the Real Christians are Persecuted by the likes of you and your kin!!!
No I did not Attend Rhema Bible College you insulting not very Christ like man!!!
I attended C.S.T.I. Christian Service Training Institute !!! A better College than any you know of or attended!!!
Don't be a Jerk , and do more Research you can't take the Bible out of Context and ignore other Parts , It's ALL or Nothing like Acts 2:38 have you obeyed it?
@Jesusisposttrib Let's see who is Bible literate Is 44:6,8 God states He is the First and the Last , REV 1:8,11,17 Jesus says He is the First and The Last!!!
@Jesusisposttrib I knew more about the Bible than you do now 3 years into my Christian walk!!! in 1994 ( I Obeyed Acts 2:38 in 1991) I've been to Bible College and I do Research and Study , I attend a Bible believing Church and I love Truth and Hate False Teaching!!!
HAVE YOU OBEYED ACTS 2:38 ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!
@Jesusisposttrib Do and Honest Study of History we have enough resources on the Net to do this and you will see History as we know it has been tainted by who ever was in power with contrary documents destroyed!!!
You are Charged now to do this Research and will be held accountable by God if you don't come to a knowledge of the truth!!!
@Jesusisposttrib The Apostolic Church was NEVER taken over the RCC rose to power over the land ,but the Church was always around and when found they were Murdered and God will take Vengeance on ALLwho Obey Not the Gospel that was delivered on the Day of Pentecost and can be Read in Acts 2:38,39!!! ( 2 Thess 1:7,8)
There is One God , Trinitarians make Three and You make Two, Duet 6:4 states One!
Jesus in John 14:8,9 Tells Philip if you have seen ,Him You have seen the Father!
@Jesusisposttrib That Truth has it's foundation in what Jesus said is the Greatest Commandment and that is Deut. 6:4 "Hear O' Israel , The Lord our God is ONE Lord!!!
You have fallen in with False Teachers and support the so called Historic "Christian" faith which Peter, John, James, Jude and Paul would have Rejected as False Doctrine!! I need No Other Book but The Bible to Prove my Point.
Acts 2:38,39 is the scripture Trinitarians hate because it exposes their lies!!
@Jesusisposttrib The Apostolic Church goes back to 32 AD and has never stopped ,They had to go underground because of Heretics and The Roman Government Persecution, When the beginnigs of the Catholic Church was Established that's when the Real Christians were forced to hide or Be Murdered , Do a History Search man!!!
There has always been Oneness Believers from Peter to Paul and Timothy on down through time 1914 was just the Restitution of the Ancient Aopstolic Truth!!!
Have you ever considered , the reason there is not a lot of papers of the Majority view (stated by just Tertullian and others) is because they and there cohorts burned them as History goes to the Victors the Murderers got rid of all the Truth!!!
@Jesusisposttrib I know my History and The History of the Church , I know my Bible better than you and can run circles around you in logic and Debate you false witness!
@Jesusisposttrib Humanity / Divinity answer this Sir Who is the Father of the Christ Child Matt 1:8 says The Holy Ghost, Who was manifest in the Flesh the Son or God
@Jesusisposttrib Some Churches did split fom Assmbly of God because they would not accept the Trinity and Assmblys would not accept Acts 2:38 which side are you on?
@Jesusisposttrib That is a lie , We go back to the Apostles , James Town church Taught Acts 2:38, Sabalien , In fact Tertullian became a Oneness believer after a while!!! Polycarp etc..Etc...
1914 was a Revival of sorts but all through History God has had a Remnant of Truth Bearers!!!
@Jesusisposttrib sabelian died because of False Teachers like you , He died for Truth you are a Murderer if you fall in line with the Trinity Heresy!!!
@Jesusisposttrib You Loon. We are not Jesus Only , We are Jesus Everything and if you Google to research you will get lies like that Apostolic Truth started in 32 AD and Peter peaching on the Day of Pentecost with Acts 2:38,39 Have you obeyed the Gospel ONCE delivered to the Saints?!!!
I told you , you don't want to "Go There" with the name calling , but if you insist I will use The Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God to show you You are in Error!!!
@Jesusisposttrib Yes as The Holy Ghost, Jesus is not The Liar your misinterpretations of Sunday School basic Bible Truths are why you don't know these simple things!!!
Acts 9, 13:2 ,20:28, The Holy Ghost spoke to the Elders Read Acts 13:2!!!
@Jesusisposttrib One sat on the Throne Rev 4:2 ,22:3,4 says The Throne (sigular ) of God and of the Lamb and they Shall serve Him, They shall see His Face, His name not there Names !!!
@Jesusisposttrib Cool ,no Problem with that , but Jesus will Always be with us ,for He said He will never leave us or forsake us and Rev 21:3 says the Tabernacle of God is with Men... Jesus is that Tabernacle !!!
1 Tim 3:16 say God was manifest in Flesh not anyone else or god jr.!!!
@Jesusisposttrib Correct , The Father is the Spirit that is in Him, The Son is the Flesh that was Crucified now Glorified!!!
Jesus submitted to the Holy Spirit ,who is the Father (Matt 1:18) , and was told us in John 14:7-10 That if you know Him you know the Father and If you have seen Him you have seen the Father!!!!
John 14:18 Jesus said He would return to the Disciples as the Holy Ghost!!!
@Jesusisposttrib I reject all False Trinity Doctrine and Any other Doctrine that Dose no Teach that Jesus Christ is Lord God Almighty according to Revelations 1:8!!!
The Father is the Spirit the Son is the Flesh now Glorified and the Only One on the Throne and the Only God we will Ever See is the Lord Jesus Christ , Amen !!!
@Jesusisposttrib Again I know what I speak , I speak the Oneness of God as Jesus stated in Rev 1:8 "I AM Alpha and Omega,The Beginning and The Ending,saith the Lord, Which is ,Which was, and Which is to Come, The Almighty. !!!
Read Acts 20:28 carefully Now Read Rev 22:17 carefully - Three witnesses that Show that Jesus Christ came as the Holy Ghost and If you don't believe them try
The trinity comes for many religious compilations like Egyptian. the catholic church wanted to bring more people to their church, so where other religions were in asia etc they incorporated their beliefs with the roman and christian belief, hence u have the worshiping of statues and crosses and paintings and trees etc
Jesus is God, Son of God, Holy Son, Judge and King forever
If you interpret Bible by some fragments,like Protestants, don`t take into considatation whole Bible and 2000 years tradition you can not get to real answers. "you can not read". Thats why you understand Bible and Koran like that.
John 10:30, iSAIAH CHAPTERS 43,44,45, Isaiah 9:6, II Corintians 4:4, Hebrews 1:1-3,
@Jesusisposttrib I am not a mormen. The members in the god family will be countless. God is not a 3 in 1 close godhead. God is reprodusing afther his own kined. God is expanding his family. We are made tobecome God. And thats why satan hates us, because we can become something that he cant. We are to become the literal sons and daughters of the father and literal younger brothers and sisters of Christ. That is what the bible tells us
@Jesusisposttrib The trinity is pagon. God is not a trinity. The word elohim (God) means family. And right now there are only 2 members in the God family. But God is making his family bigger by creating humans. God made humans to one day become part of the God family/Godhead. And to become God-beings like the father and Christ
@Jesusisposttrib Elohim (god) means family And right now there are 2 members in the family. the father and christ. The holy spirit is not a person, but the power of god
if islam is fake, why has your main system, pop stars, footballers, actors, singers, christian leaders, boxers, rappers, comedians, and manny more have accepted this religion called ISLAM, have have they left CHRISTIANITY and come to ISLAM WHY? what has islam got that christianity hasnt got? ask your self, !
Are you, your mom and dad one person? NO you are three people- same goals and wants in life, to be happy and healthy and do good things etc. but still Three people! 3 will never be 1
IDOITS Jesus is a prophet, sent by Allah, like all other prophets. He is nor god, nor son. Their is no holy spirits, exept by the angels of Allah. Jesus (Isa) is a beloved prophet. Their is no trinity, only oneness of Allah. I pray and hope for all of you to understand. Thank You.
sharkking4 3 months ago
@sharkking4 God can be the Father of His creations. Since Jesus is the hishest, then Jesus is properly the Son of God. He is very special to God.
Danielezerable 2 months ago
IN HONOR APOPYALIPS
Let us take a break to sing
HE IS AN ENGLISHMAN by Gilbert & Sullivan
Youtube. com / watch? v= kPQE3GfkrOo
[you gots to removee the spaces from the adr]
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@apopyalips wrote: "if u are an english man, u will know this."
Pardon my sense of humor (whoops, humour), but I feel like breaking out into some bars of
"He remains an Englishman; he remains an Englishman"
As sung in Raiders of the Lost Ark -- my guess is it is Gilbert & Sullivan?
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips GREEK B
One common ending is -ου, much like English's. -ου is masculine singular genitive case, a case like English possessive case. Thus κυρίου (kyriou) means Lord's or "of the Lord." In many of the passages I presented to you from BDAG the meaning is YHWH's or "of YHWH."
Pardon me for being long-winded, but I thot u might need to understand that BDAG lists references to κυρίου under its entry for κύριος, since κυρίου is the same word in the genitive case (like possessive case).
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips EXPLANATION OF GREEK A
κύριος = kyrios; The Greek vowel upsilon ύ (accented here) is generally transliterated into English with y.
Greek is a language that declines nouns. English does that a little. We use 's for possessive case singular, rather equivalent to our preposition "of" e.g., John's book = the book of John. We then have s' for possessive plural. Greek has many more endings for nouns than 's & s'. [cont]
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@Jesusisposttrib It is an interesting passage. & u cud debate if Simon M was saved or not from the passage. There is household forgiveness 4 Chrs who already have all sins forgiven. What is undebatable is that over & over U R told that faith is sufficient for salvation -- prayer is often not mentioned. I think it is usual for men to 1st express their faith in a prayer, but prayer itself is a work (works can't save). Faith can be expressed in a prayer; Rom 10:13 presupposes faith (see context).
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips Let's see you prove that
3) The Lord Jesus presented God as the Father of all (even of those whose father = the devil)
4) Christ became the Son of God, instead of being eternally the Son of God.
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@apop claims: "when jesus prayed, he didn't say "my father...", he said "our father" becuase he knew God is the father of all. how did he became the son of God, through resurrection from the dead, read romans 1:3-5"
Lets see you prove that
1) Jesus always used our with Father when He prayed & said "Father."
2) Jesus ever prayed saying, "Our Father" (instead of giving instruction to disciples thus to pray),
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apop Part of what you wrote is incoherent; perhaps you wrote so fast that you left out some words.
" one idea which whoever believes, is considered is son."
It reminds me of Pres Clinton, "It depends on what IS means" LOL
It
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopy, you claim: "God is one spirit with one identity" Yes, but let's see you prove that the oneness has no complexity within it. Is it reasonable to conceive of God existing in eternity past & being personal, but having only one person to Him, one ego?
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apop I am unaware of any Trinity except in the Bible. If you have proof of a Trinity (Triune God; one essence w/ 3 ego's) anywhere else, please post the proof. Pse don't bother to post Triads, like a male & female god along with their offspring by sex with each other.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips Your Country. England? I am a graduate of the University of Manchester. I studied there with FF Bruce.
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@apop BDAG D
πνεῦμα κ.[Spirit of YHWH] Lk 4:18 (Is 61:1); Ac 8:39;
τὸ ῥῆμα κ. [The Word of YHWH] 1 Pt 1:25 (Gen 15:1 al.);
φωνὴ κ. [The Voice of YHWH (Gen 3:8 al.); Ac 7:31;
χεὶρ κ. [Hand of YHWH] (Ex 9:3 al ..) Lk 1:66.
ὁ Χριστὸς κυρίου [The Christ of YHWH] 2:26 ..
—W. the sphere of his lordship more definitely expressed κ. τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καὶ τῆς γῆς [Lord of Heaven & Earth]..Mt 11:25; Lk 10:21; cp. Ac 17:24."
[Interp of "al" = "& other places"]
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@apop BDAG C
"ἄγγελος κυρίου [Messenger of YHWH] ..Mt 1:20, 24; 2:13, 19; 28:2; Lk 1:11; 2:9a; J 5:3 v.l.; Ac 5:19; 7:30 v.l.; 8:26; 12:7, 23.
δόξα κυρίου [Glory of YHWH] (Is 40:5;..) Lk 2:9b;
δούλη κ. [Female Slave of YHWH] 1:38;
ἡμέρα κ. [Day of YHWH] Ac 2:20 (Jo 3:4);
νόμος κ. [Law of YHWH] Lk 2:23f, 39;
τὸ ὄνομα κ. [The Name of YHWH] Mt 21:9..Ac 2:21 (Jo 3:5); [Joel 3:5]
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apo BDAB B
α. as a designation of God ..LXX (where it freq. replaces the name Yahweh in the MT); ὁ κ. Mt 5:33; Mk 5:19; Lk 1:6, 9, 28, 46; 2:15, 22; Ac 4:26 (Ps 2:2); 7:33; 8:24; Eph 6:7..2 Th 3:3; 2 Ti 1:16, 18; Hb 8:2; Js 1:7; 4:15...like a personal name ..Mt 27:10; Mk 13:20; Lk 1:17, 58; Ac 7:49; Hb 7:21 (Ps 109:4); 12:6 (Pr 3:12); 2 Pt 2:9; Jd 5 (θεὸς Χριστός P72)" [cont]
[interpretation of θεὸς Χριστός = God Christ; interp of P72 = ancient papyrus p72.]
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopn BDAG Lexicon on kyrios A
κύριος .. gener. ‘lord, master’.
1. one who is in charge by virtue of possession..
2. one who is in a position of authority, lord, master..
α. as a designation of God ..LXX (where it freq. replaces the name Yahweh in the MT);"
[MT = Masoretic Text Hebrew; LXX = Septuagint]
[cont]
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips I think I already have Esword, but I don't use it becs I own a $5000 + version of Accordance. I have a master's degree in Greek. The word Lord (kyrios) is Greek sometimes means YHWH. You can prove that by checking the occurrences of kyrios. When YHWH occurs in a quote from the OT, the NT renders it kyrios. Rom 10:13 is an example quoting from Joel 2. In context kyrios = the Lord Jesus; but it is quote from the OT where the word is YHWH.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips
How do u know that the early Church didn't speak of one God? & Didn't also call 3 persons also God?
What's your proof of your claims?
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips
How do you know that these truths are lies?
Thunkful2 8 months ago
Epic103 Q -2
The Holy Spirit is called YHWH in 2 Cor 3:16-18, YHWH the Spirit.
"Only the Father is addressed as GOD."
Wrong, for example, Thomas calls Him, "My Lord and my God."
The distinction is there because GodtheFather & GodtheSon are different ego's, different persons of the one essence of God. It is clear
1) All 3 are called YHWH or God.
2) All 3 are distinct persons.
3) There is but one God.
Ergo, the Trinity: One God with 3 egos.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
Epic 103 asked me some questions:
"Where can we see "GOD the Son" in the Bible?"
The Lord Jesus is called the Son relative to God the Father many times. Thus He is the Son (Son of God). He is also God (Before Abraham was born, I AM.) Rom 10:13 calls Him YHWH.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
Epic 103:
"For whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD (KYRIOS) shall be saved." In context, LORD (KYRIOS) = Jesus. But the passage is a quote from Joel 2 where the word KYRIOS in Greek stands for YHWH in Hebrew. Thus Rom 10:13 takes a saying from Joel which speaks of YHWH & applies it to Christ.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
Epic 103 The Lord Jesus is rightly called God-the-Son, because He is both called God (YHWH) in fact, El Gibbor (mightly God in Isa 9), & He is also called the Son. God-the-Son puts the two together.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips Trinitarians are monothesists. What does Steven disprove? & how so?
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@apopyalips Are we supposed to proclaim:
For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved? (Rom 10:13)
Who is Lord? What does Lord mean?
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JESUS said, "AND I will write upon him MY NEW NAME."
Jesus is speaking of himself and the other children of YAHWEH that will receive their new names in the white stone.
EXODUS 3:15
And YAHWEH said moreover unto Moses,
"Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD, YAHWEH of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: This is MY NAME FOREVER, and this is MY MEMORIAL unto All generations!"
Amazing! PROOF Jesus is not [God]
upNyaBizznizz 1 year ago
@apopyalips What do you believe? The Trinitarian way?
superjam18 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib So what's the argument here? I didn't read the whole thing. If it's about the order of salvation. Repenting Baptism and Holy Spirit then just remember Repentance comes first and the other two can be done in any order it's just that all three are required for salvation
superjam18 1 year ago
@superjam18 The only thing required for salvation on the sinner's part is trusting Christ as Savior, believing in Him. Believe on the LJC & u shall be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His monogene Son that whosoever believes in Him shud not perish, but have everlasting life. That repentence which saves is a change of mind from trusting self, works, an idol or anything else (like baptism) to trusting Christ as Savior. When u trust Christ, the Holy Spirit regenerates & baptizes you
Thunkful2 9 months ago
@Thunkful2 so must this person that just recieved salvation work in order to maintain it? or can they just live life?
superjam18 9 months ago
@super
The thing is called "salvation," not "validation." Validation is for good people with good works that God approves. Salvation is for us wretched sinners, which means by God's grace He does the saving; we are the savee. For by grace you have been saved and that not of yourselves, not of works lest any man should boast. For we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works. (Ephesians 2). Works don't save. But once saved, good works will come.
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@super "just live life?"
I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. & the life which I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God Who loved me and gave Himself for me. (Galatians 2).
Thunkful2 8 months ago
@apopyalips how is monotheism a lie? That's' what Christianity is belief, obedience and trust in ONE God!!!
superjam18 1 year ago
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(Quran 5:116)
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
Couple this verse with Matthew 7:22-23 and you will know the truth about Jesus Christ.
helasmoh 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Acts 10:48a And He COMMANDED them to be Baptized in the Name of The Lord.
You Repent!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib By The Way it's Blood Washed !!! Scripture interprets Scripture so My verses count too !!!
Jesus said those That are Baptized Shall be Saved and Those that Believe not Shall be Damned !!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib And You shall Receive The Gift of the Holy Ghost!
For the Promise is unto You (Jews) to your Children and to those afar off (Gentiles)
As many as the Lord our God shall call (All Believers)
You are not in that number until you Repent!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib 14 verses all taken out of context ,But I only Need 3 Mark 16:16
Luke 24:47 and Acts 2:38 ALL say you do , So your Argument is With Jesus!!!
Are You Calling Jesus a Liar? Or Peter? How about Paul? Acts 19:5 ,16:31
You must apply the blood, Jesus said Remission of Sin is to be Taught in His Name starting at Jerusalem!!! Acts 2:38 Fulfills that !!!
Repent and Be Baptized Every one of You in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the Remission of Sins...
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib James 2:17 is very clear a saving faith is one in Action , Heb 11
You have no Faith nor do you Obey Acts 2:38 so I don't expect you to understand!!!
I am a Real Christian so I don't want you to go to Hell to see for yourself so I say Repent!!! Acts 2:38!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib That F word is so close you might as well say the Real thing, you are cursing and that is not Christlike!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib You are in a Cult and now you show your self to be Reprobate and after 2 or 3 Admonitions I leave you to your Devil loving ways you Demon!!!
I narrowly look upon you and Tell you To Repent or Go To Hell!!!
James says Faith without Works Are Dead James 2:17,18 James Obeyed Acts 2:38!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The Church was Born in Acts 2:4 not before. Read carefully Acts 16:33 They were Baptized Surely if it was not necessary it would not have been done because of the Scourge marks on the backs of Paul and Silas!!!
The Bible agrees with Acts 2:38!!!
I never said baptisms were not done in the old Testment , because what was John doing then ? Another Stawman !!!
You are Deceived and Deceive others!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib So You Reject Acts 2:38?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The Thief on the Cross is what is called an Old Testament saint because he died before the Resurrection of Jesus Christ and before the Accession
The New Testament did not Become Effective until The Day of Pentecost around 32 AD so The Thief went to Paradise which was called Abraham's Bosom like every other Old Testament saved person!
That is a Elementary school lesson that kids in the Churches we attend know!
How is it , you a Teacher of sorts don't know these things?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Read Acts 8:17 and 10:48 The order of the Gift of the Holy Ghost is not important ,you are making a Straw-man argument , Repentance always comes First , then Either Baptism or The Gift of the Holy Ghost!!!
Read ALL of the Bible not Pick verse here and there ALL of the Scripture
Obey ALL of Acts 2:38 !!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Brainwashed? No Blood Washed buddy not a Cult but I'd rather be a Cult that Obeys Jesus Christ the Lord than a Disobedient and Rebellious old man who thinks he knows the Bible and can't understand Elementary scriptures like
Acts 2:38!!!
The man who Obeys Acts 2:38 is saved Those who Obey not are going to Face Jesus and explain why they Disobeyed!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
That's why Jesus said "Narrow is the Way that leads to Eternal Life", because Most people follow the Broadway that leads to Hell!!!
Acts 2:38 Leads to Eternal Life ,but Few obey!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Read Acts 10:48 and Yes Acts 8:16 shows Baptism is in the Name of The Lord Jesus!!
So you know the Truth, ut have you obeyed Acts 2:38?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Study Acts 2:38,39 and You will see for Yourself You call Jesus a Liar because Luke 24:47 and Mark 16:16 states You must be Baptized to be saved!
Peter commanded them to follow Acts 2:28!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Acts 10:48 After the Gentiles received the Holy Ghost as the Disciples in Acts 2:4 Peter Commanded them to Be Baptized in the Name of the Lord!!
Acts 19 Same thing , All that are Ordained to Eternal Life recieve this message with Gladness and Obey only those who account themselves not Worthy of Eternal Life Reject the Word of God and Thrust it from themselves !!! Acts 13:46,48
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Peter would beg to Differ as well as Jesus ( 1 Pet 3:21, Mrk 16:16 and Luke 24:47) Baptism applies the Blood , The Blood was shed and Now it has to be applied for Remission of sins!!! Acts 2:38!!!
If you don't Obey Acts 2:38 you have No One to Blame But yourself!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Remember the Day ,this day well, because it will either be the Day you wee almost saved or the Day you will regret from the bowls of Hell , the Day you went to a Website that had the Truth!!!
You can Reject The Truth of the Mighty God in Christ Jesus and Acts 2:38 or you can embrace it!! But you will be held accountable!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Have you obeyed Acts 2:38? 1914 was just a Revival not the Beginning , The Beginning was Acts 2:4 and The First Alter Call was Acts 2:38,39!!!
3,000 joined the Church on the First day on that Day of Pentecost around 32 AD and we have not stopped adding since!!!
That's why the Catholics killed so many Real Christians during the Dark ages past the Reformation and unto the 20th Century where We the Real Christians are Persecuted by the likes of you and your kin!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
Answer The Question , Because you are losing the Debate Here , Have you Read and Obeyed Acts 2:38?
If you have not you are not qualified to be a Teacher of Nothing except False Doctrine!!!
Take You Doctrine of Demons elsewhere!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
No I did not Attend Rhema Bible College you insulting not very Christ like man!!!
I attended C.S.T.I. Christian Service Training Institute !!! A better College than any you know of or attended!!!
Don't be a Jerk , and do more Research you can't take the Bible out of Context and ignore other Parts , It's ALL or Nothing like Acts 2:38 have you obeyed it?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I agree with John 5:36 and ALL of the Scripure Have you Obeyed Acts 2:38 if not you are a False Teacher and the Real Cultist!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Let's see who is Bible literate Is 44:6,8 God states He is the First and the Last , REV 1:8,11,17 Jesus says He is the First and The Last!!!
Who is the First and The Last?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I knew more about the Bible than you do now 3 years into my Christian walk!!! in 1994 ( I Obeyed Acts 2:38 in 1991) I've been to Bible College and I do Research and Study , I attend a Bible believing Church and I love Truth and Hate False Teaching!!!
HAVE YOU OBEYED ACTS 2:38 ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib You don't Understand Jesus because You don't have The Holy Ghost according to Acts 2:38 , Have you Obeyed Acts 2:38?!!!
I don't care how you view God ,but have you Obeyed !!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Rev 1:8 Jesus says He is The Almighty , There is only One Almighty!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
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@Jesusisposttrib You are The One, HUMANITY/DIVINITY
SON of Man / Son of GOD!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Do and Honest Study of History we have enough resources on the Net to do this and you will see History as we know it has been tainted by who ever was in power with contrary documents destroyed!!!
You are Charged now to do this Research and will be held accountable by God if you don't come to a knowledge of the truth!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The Apostolic Church was NEVER taken over the RCC rose to power over the land ,but the Church was always around and when found they were Murdered and God will take Vengeance on ALLwho Obey Not the Gospel that was delivered on the Day of Pentecost and can be Read in Acts 2:38,39!!! ( 2 Thess 1:7,8)
There is One God , Trinitarians make Three and You make Two, Duet 6:4 states One!
Jesus in John 14:8,9 Tells Philip if you have seen ,Him You have seen the Father!
Is 9:6
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib That Truth has it's foundation in what Jesus said is the Greatest Commandment and that is Deut. 6:4 "Hear O' Israel , The Lord our God is ONE Lord!!!
You have fallen in with False Teachers and support the so called Historic "Christian" faith which Peter, John, James, Jude and Paul would have Rejected as False Doctrine!! I need No Other Book but The Bible to Prove my Point.
Acts 2:38,39 is the scripture Trinitarians hate because it exposes their lies!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The Apostolic Church goes back to 32 AD and has never stopped ,They had to go underground because of Heretics and The Roman Government Persecution, When the beginnigs of the Catholic Church was Established that's when the Real Christians were forced to hide or Be Murdered , Do a History Search man!!!
There has always been Oneness Believers from Peter to Paul and Timothy on down through time 1914 was just the Restitution of the Ancient Aopstolic Truth!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
I apologize for calling names as you did me!!
You do have a warped view of the Scriptures , because you have not
Obeyed Acts 2:38, If you had Jesus would reveal these basic Truths of Oneness to you!!
Repent!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
Have you ever considered , the reason there is not a lot of papers of the Majority view (stated by just Tertullian and others) is because they and there cohorts burned them as History goes to the Victors the Murderers got rid of all the Truth!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@revelashaun68 Justin ,Tertullian and others!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Have you Obeyed Acts 2:38?!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Stop now you are embarrassing your self with these Pseudo Scholarly Quotes that Disprove your video more than my point!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Other Liars and Decievers who are the Foundational teacher that led the Church into the Dark Ages and To RCC?!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Scripture , Your Quotes from other Scholars don't impress me and may Fool only the Weak brother who listens to your Lies!!!
Matt 1:18 The Holy Ghost is the Father , 1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in Flesh
Is 9:6
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib False Teachers Quotes agasin , Prove it From the Scriptures Deny Acts 2:38, Rev 1:8 ,Col 1:18, Col 2:9 etc...
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib There is no Trinity Teaching in the Bible and the Title of your video states the same or are you wasting our Time with Lies?!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The Devil loves them that's why, Narrow is the Way that leads to Life!!!
Do any of them Teach Acts 2:38? Do You?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib If you are not Teaching Acts 2:38 you are a Liar and a minister of the Devil!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib False Trinity Heresy!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I know my History and The History of the Church , I know my Bible better than you and can run circles around you in logic and Debate you false witness!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib All of those people you are Quoting ,never followed Acts 2:38 so they are moot!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Acts 2:38 did Peter lie or not?
No One in the Book of Acts was ever Baptized any other way ,but in the Name of Jesus Christ!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The Trinity is False and So are You!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Justin and Tertullian stated in their writtings that most believers were Oneness believers at the times of there writtings!!!
You better Research this Fully before yo are Found to be a Liar and a Blasphemer!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Stop Wikipedian False Teachers to make False points and Repent!!!
Obey Acts 2:38!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Oh Really how about the Entire Bible From Gen 1:1 to Rev 22:21!!!
Jesus told Philip in John 14:9 If you have seen me ,you have seen the Father!!!
Peter, John ,James ,Jude and Paul as well as Timothy and Titus were ALL Oneness Believers!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Tertullian became a Oneness believer in his latter years, NEXT!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib 100 Years After Revelation!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib 180? 170 Year After almost all the Apostles Died except for John who wrote Revelation in 90 AD Gal 1:8,9 for All False Teachers!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I answered that in His Humanity He indeed Submitted fully to the Spirit of God ,His Father!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Humanity / Divinity answer this Sir Who is the Father of the Christ Child Matt 1:8 says The Holy Ghost, Who was manifest in the Flesh the Son or God
1 Tim 3:16 ?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Some Churches did split fom Assmbly of God because they would not accept the Trinity and Assmblys would not accept Acts 2:38 which side are you on?
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib That is a lie , We go back to the Apostles , James Town church Taught Acts 2:38, Sabalien , In fact Tertullian became a Oneness believer after a while!!! Polycarp etc..Etc...
1914 was a Revival of sorts but all through History God has had a Remnant of Truth Bearers!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib No they do not , Peter taught One God and John confirmed it in Revelation !!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib sabelian died because of False Teachers like you , He died for Truth you are a Murderer if you fall in line with the Trinity Heresy!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib You Loon. We are not Jesus Only , We are Jesus Everything and if you Google to research you will get lies like that Apostolic Truth started in 32 AD and Peter peaching on the Day of Pentecost with Acts 2:38,39 Have you obeyed the Gospel ONCE delivered to the Saints?!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Gal 1:8,9 and Jude 3 You don'y have the Son so you don't have the Father!!!
You epitomize 2 John 9-11 and have become an AntiChrist!!!
I don't watch YouTube videos for Doctrine , I have a Bible and attend a Bible Beliving Church for that you False Teacher!!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I preach the same Jesus Peter preached , the same Jesus Paul preached it is you who has a diffrent Jesus than the Apostles!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
I told you , you don't want to "Go There" with the name calling , but if you insist I will use The Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God to show you You are in Error!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib There you go with the name calling again , I have Christ in me which is the Holy Ghost (Col 1:27 ) So I know truth!!!
You are a False Teacher and a Wolf in Sheeps clothing!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Yes as The Holy Ghost, Jesus is not The Liar your misinterpretations of Sunday School basic Bible Truths are why you don't know these simple things!!!
Acts 9, 13:2 ,20:28, The Holy Ghost spoke to the Elders Read Acts 13:2!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib One sat on the Throne Rev 4:2 ,22:3,4 says The Throne (sigular ) of God and of the Lamb and they Shall serve Him, They shall see His Face, His name not there Names !!!
You need a Revelation from Jesus!!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Cool ,no Problem with that , but Jesus will Always be with us ,for He said He will never leave us or forsake us and Rev 21:3 says the Tabernacle of God is with Men... Jesus is that Tabernacle !!!
1 Tim 3:16 say God was manifest in Flesh not anyone else or god jr.!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Correct , The Father is the Spirit that is in Him, The Son is the Flesh that was Crucified now Glorified!!!
Jesus submitted to the Holy Spirit ,who is the Father (Matt 1:18) , and was told us in John 14:7-10 That if you know Him you know the Father and If you have seen Him you have seen the Father!!!!
John 14:18 Jesus said He would return to the Disciples as the Holy Ghost!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I reject all False Trinity Doctrine and Any other Doctrine that Dose no Teach that Jesus Christ is Lord God Almighty according to Revelations 1:8!!!
The Father is the Spirit the Son is the Flesh now Glorified and the Only One on the Throne and the Only God we will Ever See is the Lord Jesus Christ , Amen !!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Jesus is the express image of God's person
2 yea Humanity / Divinity Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God!!!
Do more Research Revelation 1:8!!!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Again I know what I speak , I speak the Oneness of God as Jesus stated in Rev 1:8 "I AM Alpha and Omega,The Beginning and The Ending,saith the Lord, Which is ,Which was, and Which is to Come, The Almighty. !!!
Jesus is Lord God Almighty there is no other!!!
He is the Father in Creation , Col 1:16 , Is 9:6
Son in Redemption
Holy Ghost in Regeneration Col 1:27
It's ALL in Him (Jesus Christ ) Col 2:9 !!!
You grow up and learn your Bible!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Actually I know what I am talking about Read John 14:18 carefully
Read Acts 20:28 carefully Now Read Rev 22:17 carefully - Three witnesses that Show that Jesus Christ came as the Holy Ghost and If you don't believe them try
Col 1:27 and 1:19 and 2:9 Eph 4:4-6!!!
Don't start with the Name calling or Casting Dispersions on my Character , I can and will Run Circles around you with the Word of God humbly !!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Read John 14:18 Jesus says He will come to us, showing like Acts 9 and Acts 20:28 The Holy Ghost is Jesus not a trinity 1 God!!!
revelashaun68 1 year ago
The trinity comes for many religious compilations like Egyptian. the catholic church wanted to bring more people to their church, so where other religions were in asia etc they incorporated their beliefs with the roman and christian belief, hence u have the worshiping of statues and crosses and paintings and trees etc
joeloramsay 1 year ago
The trinity comes from the roman empire, not god!
douglasjoe1 1 year ago
I'm amazed at how very little people actually know of the trinity. I truly hope that people will honestly study it for themselves...
rbmath 1 year ago
It`s God secret and it`s not meant to understand everything!
JezusSlave 1 year ago
You are wrong!
Jesus is God, Son of God, Holy Son, Judge and King forever
If you interpret Bible by some fragments,like Protestants, don`t take into considatation whole Bible and 2000 years tradition you can not get to real answers. "you can not read". Thats why you understand Bible and Koran like that.
John 10:30, iSAIAH CHAPTERS 43,44,45, Isaiah 9:6, II Corintians 4:4, Hebrews 1:1-3,
and more : watch ? v = WtuddWkfGLk
JezusSlave 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib You have blockt me?
SanderDolce 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib I am not a mormen. The members in the god family will be countless. God is not a 3 in 1 close godhead. God is reprodusing afther his own kined. God is expanding his family. We are made tobecome God. And thats why satan hates us, because we can become something that he cant. We are to become the literal sons and daughters of the father and literal younger brothers and sisters of Christ. That is what the bible tells us
SanderDolce 1 year ago
@SanderDolce But why have you blockt me? I wanted to sent you a message with proof of what iam telling you.
SanderDolce 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib The trinity is pagon. God is not a trinity. The word elohim (God) means family. And right now there are only 2 members in the God family. But God is making his family bigger by creating humans. God made humans to one day become part of the God family/Godhead. And to become God-beings like the father and Christ
SanderDolce 1 year ago
@Jesusisposttrib Elohim (god) means family And right now there are 2 members in the family. the father and christ. The holy spirit is not a person, but the power of god
SanderDolce 1 year ago
who sits at the right hand of the Father himself?
tleonard706 1 year ago
It is false. 100%. The trinity was forced onto Christians.
Sigmanuwife 1 year ago
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khanei23 2 years ago
firstborn hebrew1:6.First born? be honoest. Trinitty is false
steveniruthaya 2 years ago
If there is no Trinity who was Jesus speaking to whenever he praid to the Father.
Yes indeed Jesus is God. He is also the second person in the Blessed Trinity.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
valadhiel7744 2 years ago
They are three seperate beings, one in purpse.
Are you, your mom and dad one person? NO you are three people- same goals and wants in life, to be happy and healthy and do good things etc. but still Three people! 3 will never be 1
Sigmanuwife 1 year ago