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  • it could be a burned house

  • norio- im here in albuquerque. doing some research on the agarthan/hollow earth theory and stumbled upon this video. give me a month or two. i would be very interested in taking a trip up there and seeing what i find. and yes, the camera will be in hand.

  • @almostshawty, wow, that's great that you are in Albuquerque. I am in Rio Rancho. Yes, I will definitely look forward to your report on your planned trip to the location. A fellow researcher JC Johnson from Farmington will be speaking in Albuquerque on Saturday, Feb. 18 and he will talk with me about possibly chartering a helicopter when the weather gets better and take a look together....but, yes, by all means, your ground exploration will be good, too!!

  • i have found some interesting stuff in the same areas, first thing i look for is a paved road where a paved road should not be, (if its not paved it would give away if its being used for traffic) if theres a landing strip close by. I also thought since the gov dont own the land they would have no problem taking the land under it.

  • I am not 100% on this but in 2006 it was coverd up and piled up on with rocks to seal the 2 entrances. Your vids are Great man ! B/c so much so i even posted a video about this same topic myself and the youtube video is called,

    Archuleta Mesa-New Mexico Base Entrances

    Thnks ! keep em comin

    PS my Arctic Entrance video will be up momentarily !

  • Are you still offering a reward for a photograph of this location?

  • @RUDunn85, yes, and, so far, no one has come up with a ground surface photo of this area.

  • rumors say that the military has been securing the recent hole and it is covered with trees But, its just rumors.....

  • I have heard many stories from some one who is a member of that tribe and it is very interesting. Aliens and one of my uncles had lived there for a yr. and seen alot and has told us stories. just about every one there has been told not to discuss with any one out side of the reservation.

  • Its an abandoned mine shaft...

  • Im live in new Mexico. and I know everything that they do not want you to know. Im down for any mission or any info you aquire. Im 21 live in albuquerque and any info hit me up

  • Anybody repel down that yet? Post it on youtube for the world to see?

  • what you are actually looking at i have just researched my self and that image of the 2 holes with the beams featured in the photographs of 2006, though now it only goes up to the year 2010 which in that area now is coverd up with rocks rubble and grass! crazy stuff i wonder what i looks like today!

  • @NUMBA1CHAKAN what ''it'' looks like!

  • First of all, there is not a single physical, solid, tangible, irrefutably documentary evidence whatsoever that there is a physical underground base under Archuleta Mesa or under the Archuleta Mountain or anywhere in or near Dulce. This is the bottom line. Nevertheless this topic remains to be quite fascinating...I am no expert on Dulce at all....I am interested, however, in the psychology behind this type of beliefs....whether true or not.

  • I actually live here in Edith, I just recently moved here with my parents and have been doing some research about the area and find this stuff really interesting! I dont live to far from the very spot that mentioned. We live close to the base of the Mesa, near the Navajo River. This is all just very interesting.

  • @OrlienMary4ever, thanks for your comments. If you ever decide to "explore" the area and happen to find something (anything of interest relevant to this matter), please let me know!! LOL!!

  • anyone want to go on a mission there?

  • Good Day Mr Hayakawa,

    Can you please assist me with a few questions as the general public cannot. Did Anthony Sanchez videotape his investigation? Dou you have video from Dulce?

    There are tonnes of people that have videotaped there own little expeditions to area 51, but not one personal video of dulce. Also, there is not one personal picture at dulce on Google Earth!!!!

    Has anyone been to Dulce, New Mexico??? Please assist me with this as you appear to be the subject matter expert here.

  • @leckie411

    Thanks for your questions, Leckie. The bottom line is this: No one (that I know of) has ever been to the alleged physical underground base in Dulce. There is not a single photo of the interior of the alleged base. The allegations that there is a physical underground base under Archuleta Mesa (or Archuleta Mountain, on the west side of the Mesa) or somewhere in or near Dulce, are purely allegations. We simply do not know.

  • This is an underground base, where large grays are in the very bottom like 2 miles below. Is the largerst underground there is. They operate bilogical experiments with human and animals, the goverment knows about this. Officials are in the top level. There is an entrance to Mount Archuleta in new Mexico I think what you just got is one of the entrance. This alliens used the river navajo for electricity and water to survive they been here for years.

  • I'm looking at google earth right now and they appear as clear as day. The timbers(assuming they are timbers) are 45-60' long. If you adjust the angle of google earth, the hole looking spot is on the side of a hill. There is a road (jeep trail) that leads right to it. I feel sure if they were hiding 7 levels of aliens in the mesa, they would not cover the entrance with fallen logs. While I agree it's interesting to wonder about, have a little common sense on this one.

  • anyone go there and make a picture?

  • If you look on Google maps there are two wholes in the ground and both look like roofs that have caved in. If it's not some kind of mine, probably a disused strange facility that fell/ into disrepair. Either way would love to be able to travel over and investigate.

  • if there is a under ground base there part of the roof prob collapsed but its prob fixed by now

  • In regards to the "Project Camelot" interview: Anthony Sanchez was recently up in the area and incurred facial paralysis from some type of nerve agent. His guide, a former police officer in that area, was recently confronted by 3 individuals, apparently from the military, who pointed their weapons at the group, and ordered them to leave the premises at once.

  • Maybe it's where they've been drilling? Did everyone forget how much oil is in that area? The Jucarilla tribe is the single largest mineral owner in the basin, even over the government.  I'm sure what they found has something to do with that and nothing to do with UFO's.

  • Don't miss listening to: PROJECT CAMELOT: ANTHONY SANCHEZ ON DULCE & PROJECT LEONID - SOUND ADJUSTED

    /watch?v=H9TbHOdCswY

  • go back in time to 1993 and you will not see nothing until 04/17/2006

  •  37° 1'0.93"N

    106°57'10.68"W

    they're two...

  • @FrizzyFrisco Seems to be a third, keep going south east to south east south. About 0.3 miles

  • Once again, the bottom line to this controversy is simple. All we need is a clear, ground photo of this spot. So far no one has produced a ground photo. A ground photo will solve everything..........it could be anything, it could be a pond with timber over it.......but until one gets a ground photo, speculations can go on and on, and even go wild. Time and money to get to this place....who has that kind of luxury these days! Plus the jurisdiction there...BLM land? private land?

  • @noriohaya

    when i go back to pagosa this summer ill go check it out and take some pictures

  • just watched a show about it and apparently its a 4.8 mile long base, 7 levels, where humans work wiht aliens doing tests on eachother and on animals lol

  • They say it's a secrit bio-lab

  • 37° 1'0.75"N 106°57'10.90" W there is a similar thing

  • Is justin bieber's House! You Finally Found it!!!

  • I was just informed by Steve that recent satellite images do not show this particular spot as it appears here. The satellite image of this area that I posted above was from 04/.17/2006.

  • mining?

  • Its probably nothing, it looks like a hole where you fabricate a imaginary craft crashing into the earth or a entrance to a under ground civilization, google maps is hardly to be trusted at face value, the fact that you are seriously talking about a google image is on the far fetched side of being anything, its probably a rock formation and shadows, 60 foot beams? Wow

  • Thanks, Shaw. Yes, there is even a larger dark spot SE of this area.

    Again, unfortunately, no one has gone to the spot to take any photos.

    So, it is anyone's guess what this is all about. For all we know (and most likely), it may just be a small pond with logs strewn about.

  • Clearly another, even larger dark spot with similar markings, as other have said, just east and south of the one in the clip. (about 300 fet south and 700 feet east)

  • you guys dint see th second one a little lower on the right SO TWO HOLES

  • @TheDieyet Your right there is another one a few yards lower and to the right. interesting.

  • Just thought I'd say I don't think we can get it. Both sides of Archuleta is property of the Jicarilla Apache and the Southern Ute. The perfect place to hide such a structure. 

  • Drop a fucking Nuke on that location.. Problem Fucking Solved.

  • @sartte Thats not very nice. I happen to live in Dulce.

  • @dexydexa E X P E N D A B L E.

  • Naaaaah JK. :P

  • IT LOOKS LIKE THE REMENANTS OF A BURNT OUT BUILDING BUT INTRESTING ALL THE SAME

  • I say its a small body of water with trees laying in it.

  • When you mention a reward, what kind of reward are we talking about? I've been thinking about taking a vacation and could swing by here. This kind of thing interests me as well. It looks more like a cave than a pond or lake. Could try and check it out if I can find it.

  • C.H.U.D.S.

    

  • Black Mesa!

  • underground human citys were still digging down there and found a alien city under dulce is the story

  • Hate to burst your bubbles, but there are a lot of those 'holes' in the area. They are lakes, some seasonal, with fallen timber floating on the surface.

  • Hate to burst your bubbles, but there are a lot of those 'holes' in the area. They are lakes, some seasonal, with fallen timber floating on the surface.

  • where does the 60' figure come from?

    why is this significant in any way shape or form? its a hole in the ground, people base jump into these all the time. ie. cave of swallows...

  • The bottom line to this controversy is simple. All we need is a clear, ground photo of this spot. So far no one has produced a ground photo. A ground photo will solve everything.

  • I've heard of this spot.. been looking for it for a while now.

    People are afraid in the area to talk about this shaft/mine..

    More research needed. Definite 'hit' here though.

  • It looks like a small patch of forest caught fire. Blackened ground, fallen and stripped trees, etc. You'd have to get closer (irl) to tell whether it was an opening =/

  • It's NOT piles at all.* is what I meant to type. When I tell people that the story is exactly that-just a story they bring up the cattle mutilations. This can be explained as well...POACHERS after the meat. I have seen the "mutilations" and a perfectly skinned cow with all four leg quarters cut out, removed was/is nothing more then a quick free dinner rather then a "mutilation". Jobs have been scarce in the area for near decades. Conspiracy theories are a disease, once you get bit you're hooked!

  • @acliffordknives, thanks! You are absolutely right.

  • It's "piles" at all. Took us a while to find this. There are several areas where the swampy areas were filled in or at least attempts were made to fill them in. The whole story about the Dulce Underground base is all fiction! I have family there, too. The towns people don't say much. We're Native American and don't believe in the conspiracy theories though good for business. IF there were any truth to it you're looking quite a ways away from where all the attention goes!!

  • You do a pretty good job of using google earth. Try using the "terrain" option on the regular Map option. It's a low point well lower then 8800' feet, the elev. of the Mesa. Do you see the homestead of to the right about 22 miles away? That's where a family member of mine lives. The piles you are seeing is not timber, it's not an old homstead it's tractor/skidloader marks! Water is stagnant there and it was an attempt to fill it in so the cattle would not graze out so far!! WOW, what a laugh!!

  • I think the government could & would do a better job of hiding an entrance to a black-ops underground base than this - probably an old mine

  • On second thought why mention New mexico at all? It is not even in New mexico or anywhere near Dulce.

  • Right were you have the "opening pin" I see a foundation I also see a foundation at the opposite corner. This just looks like a old long forgotten building like so so many in that part of the country. Mines to are all over. Does not look like a hole. The NW corner is higher then the rest since the sun sets in West it looks like a shadow to me. What time was the picture taken? That is an important bit of imformation also there is another fallen building to the East. Nothing to see here IMO.

  • I may be interested in traveling there this spring if I can get permission from the local tribe. Could you send me the coordinates? If I am able to get permission I will shoot some photos for you.

  • There is another one 854.97 feet to the right of the one you have listed

  • So anyone know what it is?

  • I just looked at that area and all of the timbers are gone. It's just one big hole with what looks to be a burm of dirt around it. Oh no, my bad I just re-looked at the area and it is another hole all together. This one is to the left of the site stated in the vid. And... there are several timber strewn holes.  At least that's what they look like.

  • I just looked at that area and all of the timbers are gone. It's just one big hole with what looks to be a burm of dirt around it.

  • omg if they were breeding humans with aliens that would be some scary ass shit. lmao i doubt it though thats crazy

  • i looked for it and found like two or three more structures like that around that area that make them even more perplexing

  • Did he ever get the clear photos of it?

  • Look up Jicarilla Apache Reservation on the web. And I'm from there! And you will see this mountain in the background. The base.

  • @HumanoidFromSpace The problem is if you research this there is a distinct lack of evidence apart from a couple guys testimoney

  • if you think this is a real point of interest near Dulce, why would you post it on the internet before truly investigating yourself with your own eyes. Either you are full of it, or you have no brain. Either way, we are never going to learn any truth when we are dealing with people like this.

  • @brokedownwilly I think the fact that he just pointed it out and asked if anyone can get a picture of this spot confirms he's only speculating. I'm not sure if you have considered that this guy is not native to the area? not everyone has the luxoury of being able to to shoot of far away someplace everytime that they find something of interest, give him a break before gettin silly about it

  • No geologist, but possibly a sinkhole? Live in a drainage basin, got alot of them around here and it does resemble trees being consumed by one.

    Thumbs up for an intelligent post!

  • Beavers?

  • i think if u go into that tunnel ,and u do get thru to wherever its blocked off,(maybe et drilled into it by mistake an if u get thru u may get into the base,omg if i only had the balls to do that my freind

  • well sure in a curious location?could be a blocked off entrance to the dolce base they speak of?it was camo with boards then with brush,to disguise it,its remote so obviously intentionaly hidden from people,thats why i came to a dolce conclusion,but sooner or later sombody will stumble upon somthing,and screw there whole shit thing up,people are becoming more curious,as well them,we are becoming more technology advanced,so its just a matter of time,prepare people dont let them get us by suprise!

  • very interesting... i heard of a hole in the crags south of mount shasta... theres stuff out there... alot of people think that aliens are in the archuleta mesa.. and the denver airport is an undergound city...

  • You can tell it is an collection point just by looking at all the narrow, semi travelled paths from tree cutters to the 'central' point.

  • These areas are where lumber clearing companies went in and selectively cut certain types of trees down. This is done very much to preserve the forests, and lumber companies still get the type of wood they bid upon from the Forestry Dept. I know this cuz I did this type of work in Northern Canada, and Washington State. Many times in a selective area, (as outlined by the seller), there will be 'rally' points to collect trees for transport to the mills. this is just one of those rally points.

  • @JFDhater How many rally points are situated over what looks like a hole though?

  • In google maps, there are 4 other "holes" in this area that look similar to this one . The smallest is about 700 ft. to the south of this one, and there are 2 others near Indn Rte 140 just to the west. The smaller the "hole," the more "beams" it has.

    The smaller the pond, the faster it freezes. The smallest pond here is almost frozen, and its ice lines look like a bundle of beams. As the ponds become larger, they have fewer ice lines. Therefore, these are most likely just ice lines.

  • very interesting. i wonder if you can hike to this spot, or is there security and such around here?

  • my shrink doctor was talking to me about dolce new mexico and said he stayed at the best western and walked to the gas station a half mile down the road and he said the gas station attendant and him put their ears to the ground and heard trucks underneath the whole town and he said they were around 7000 feet below the surface and they believe that they are building an underground city there.

  • There is a lot of controversy surrounding the area you are displaying. My suggestion is remain cautious only because there is information regarding your mysterious hole and it is not an old mine shaft. If you wish to know more the location has more information than you think.....!!!!

  • @whisperingdeath308 please, do tell.

  • @slapahoe209 I will tell you it is an isolated area far from ambient light allowing for more visibility. It is also an area where it is far from prying eyes, Area 51 can give you some insight. Let's just say many technologies yet to be revealed were gained throught interaction............

  • Hey! I just found the spot you said, and guess what, if you move your cursor to the right, lower it by a bit, there's another one! I'm sorry i can't give the coordinates because i dont know how to, but anyway, just telling to the uploader, noriohaya. :)

  • @noobienoobme90 Yep. very true. looks like a pond with fallen trees in it. co-ordinates are 37Deg 01'00.92" N and 106 Deg 57'10.81" W.

  • @JFDhater lol. :s that's so long ago. xD haha. try watching some of Phil Scheinder. That's a big O.O

  • @noobienoobme90 i watched some of Phil Schneider. things seem weird about him.  he doesn't blink, and he wanders off topic to topic too easily.

  • @JFDhater lol? didn't notice that. Probably he's an alien too haha

  • @JFDhater While he told the truth,R.I.P,yes others have noticed the same things,and either to discredit,or tell the truth,things had been said about him which may or may not explain what you noticed.He's still right though.

  • I think your "hole" in the earth is a small lake. It is covered with a ice-plane. Therefore its surfuce looks like a broken glass-screen.

  • I believe in extraterrestrial life, and even that this life could have visited this Earth, but this whole 'humans working with ETs underground in Dulce' theory is going a little bit too far. It just seems silly that there are secret bases hidden underneath Dulce or Mount Shasta, etc.

  • @eBiology they do work together dow there

  • I don't know if you noticed it, but there's another mine hole just SE of that one. If you stop the video at 1:22 you will see it perfectly in the lower right hand corner.

  • I don't know if you noticed it, but there's another mine hole just SE of that one. If you stop the video at 1:22 you will see it perfectly in the lower right hand corner.

  • What did your friend who told you about the spot know of it?

  • I live in Colorado and I hear about strange things happening in Southern Colorado often (e.g. the San Luis valley} like cattle mutilations.

  • There's another similar spot .17 miles SE of this spot. They're both small ponds with fallen timber laying about.

  • ya know, you see a spot on google earth..and declare it is an underground base. How come no one who wants proof will go out there and videotape this and post it on youtube? it certainly seems more accessable than area 51

  • There's definitely fishy things at Dulce,but this looks like trees have been cut and fallen into a pond.

    If it was an opening,the trees would have fallen instead of laying on the surface of a shallow pond.

  • it looks like maybe timbers were used to conceal the opening and have since lost their foliage. strange that there isn't any road leading to this spot. maybe a couple of areas nearby where a craft could land. could be an old mine shaft. miners were always keen to hide their claims.

  • cleareyedcleanheart, thank you so much for your comments. I think you are absolutely right. I just got confirmation from a Dulce resident who mentioned to me that it is definitely an old mine hole of the 1930s. I will try to negotiate with him for the ground photos.

  • @cleareyedcleanheart what if he monitored the spot for a mnth by the googlemap?? and recording it at his pc?? then we could see if something moved , lights in the night, etc......

  • YOU WOULD NOT BELİEVE YOUR EYES.

    SPOT THE COORDINATES AND DISCOVER THE SILHOUETTE.

    JUST BENEATH THE TWO OPENINGS nıriohaya MENTIONED.

    JUST BENEATH TAKE A GOOD LOOK.U WONT'T MİSS

    IT S A GREY FACE.IM FREAKED OUT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    37"00'51.67" NORTH 106"57'10.42 WEST

  • The DUMB was integrated with a Draco Reptillian Implant station that has existed since Atlantis collapsed 145,000 years ago. The Cyclops is an example of a reptillian. The Ant people are what we call the greys.

  • @canary11141 Atlantis sank in 9,564 BC

    One of the survivors was a man named Hermes Trismegistus.

    Who was the man who taught the egyptians alchemy in its purest form.

    I also think he designed the pyramids.

  • it really does look like some trees that fell...but what's all the blackness under the trees?

  • it looks like a bunch of cut down trees

  • they are trees and if you look slightly right and south of that hole you will see more of the same. look closely they are trees nothing more

  • Perhaps the springs nearby are a cover-up to some evidence of strange phenomena.

  • it wont let me tell you. F##k youtube

  • Thanks, Joe, yes, there is a somewhat similar spot nearby. However, the reason I focused on this particular spot was because of the straight beam-looking things.

  • I'd just like to point out that there is a very similar looking piece of landscape south-east, that can be seen at 1:14

  • Too bad Google dont have the "street view" feature in that area, the pussies!

  • It looks like a collapsed silver mine to me, if I recall correctly there used to be a few around that area.

  • @YeahItsKurt

    Tep i have to agree looks like an old mine. Maybe ill have to check it out some time.

  • I'm confused.. I saw the Dolce episode on UFO files.. and the MESA was like right there next to the city.. but I pull this up on google earth.. it's looks rather far... I suppose maybe the MESA is huge.. .. so either those guys were searching on the wrong hill or.. idk.. somethings not right here

  • Holy fuck!!! This is the entrance to Relic's Point, Cronos (The government) Doing what they do best...make Zoaniods (The reptilians). Where are the Guyvers when we need them! I have to activate my Guyver 1 unit........again, Damn! And for those of you who don't know who or what the Guyver is, look him up. You'll be shocked on how close that is to this.

  • fly up there and land then find out

  • If you go to that spot on Google Maps today, the area is blocked out really big. Perhaps it is an opening for the underground that leads up to the Denver area which will eventually be where the new White House is when it's all said and done. I believe that the "DIA Conspiracy" is no conspiracy. I would love to see that area in person but you can bet your boots it's a restricted area or armed men will send you on your merry way!

  • dont think it is a lake cuz all the 'logs' point inward and only on the edges

  • This has, unexpectedly, turned into a great psychological experiment.

    This may be all about "belief systems".

    Believers "see" what they "want" to see.

    Until we get a clear, surface photo of this spot, anything is open to interpretation.

    It's just like the so-called "Face on Mars".

    For anyone who has any pertinent information or photo regarding this spot, please contact me.

    Thanks so much!

  • i cant find it with the cords you gave me....

  • @noriohaya That's a good point. People find evidence for what they believe. Some years ago, camping in Truckee, California one night, I saw a UFO, or star, or something, cross the horizon, making what appeared to be right angles. It must have been moving at speeds of 5,000 miles an hour, it was moving so fast. It was incredible. Youtube is far more interesting than TV. People powered media.

  • MYSTERY SOLVED?

    Not so fast.  Although a Ms. Liz Allsop Gryphon commented that "this is nothing more than a pile of rubbish and logs....someone was trying to develop this area....there is a gate and a passcode is needed to get in...only a very few houses were built....it goes up the mountain on the eastern side of the ranger station", I still need a clear, surface photo of this spot.

    Until then, anything is open to interpretation.

  • @noriohaya I would like to agree that it looks like a small pond/lake with logs floating in it. Best of luck

  • It looks like a tunnel opening Bro .

  • awesome video.

  • great job as usual by Norio...fascinating and smart to use satellite....it is there for us all on google or microsoft.... I think this is a very 'safe' and intelligent way of doing some research of the areas... It is best to proceed slowly and calmly and professionally when dealing with the federal government.... what the government doesn't like is to be blind sided. to be honest with them im nost instances is the best practice.. follow their procedures and it 'may' work with better results.

  • I would love to go(in the summer) and browse,perhapes we could share infomation regarding the availability of horses to hire.

    Anyone into doing a group expidition?

    Lets put one together!

  • Great video Norio... you are already a master of YouTube! :)

  • In addendum, you will notice the bare spots on top of the mesa. A large forest fire raged there several years ago, but it doesn't seem to have touched the curious spot mentioned.

  • Hello Norio, this is Dave Ortiz of Crypto Four Corners. I don't have a snowmobile, but can do when the snow subsides. Looks like some nearby access, if the road isn't closed.

  • Hi there radialspokes ,

    and greetings from England

    What in your opinion would the chance be of getting permission to go on horseback from the Ute Native Americans

  • Hello Greyeagle! The possibility is good, since i know a Ute tribal ranger who works for that part of the Indian reservation. She could tell me if it's possible or not. There are places in the Ute reservation that are prohibited from all travel, but not sure if this is one of them. I've even thought of sneaking in before the sun comes up, using backcountry skis, snowshoes or even a mtn bike in warmer weather. 8400ft elevation in this area has 3-4

    feet of snowfall right now, and more on the way

  • You know when cement structures like pillars are built with metal rods inside to strenghthen them, that is what these beams look like to me.

  • I would LOVE to go exploring, I just can't afford the trip out there! If I lived within 100 miles, I would definitely be going!

  • Perhaps I am making a big thing out of nothing. But still, as long as I cannot get a clear photo of this area, my curiosity lingers on. I know that it will be difficult and quite time-consuming to actually go to this site but I definitely would like to get a clear answer on what this is. That's all.

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  • @noriohaya It looks like an entrance of some sort because the angle of the lumber that is over the hole looks as if it is bending into the hole. It may just be the unclear view from Google Earth, but it is definitely worth investigating. Anyone want to form a search party and do some in person investigating?

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