What People Aren't Saying About Carrier IQ

[sTeevYx1]

my stratosphere doesnt have Carrier IQ W000t

[djhidro609]

Amen brother. Nice video

[BobbyJComedian]

@xda my wife was offered a job to work for sprint reading text messages and gps locations to police gov feds etc

[LurkerPatrol5]

You sound like sxephil.

[MisterTopazio]

your acer laptop looks identical to mine, what is the model? :p

[ecooceecooce]

follow @Jason_Feriani we have some more news coming out soon, and "we" are the reason this subject is moving so fast... free ecooce...

[ezopzo]

thats the truth, well said Azrienoch.

[albertdn97]

Even if non of the data is being collected, why does  the app need to be on our phones?

[tylerwatt12]

This video is extremely biased, none of your data is being collected, Case closed.

[IHateCreatingAcounts]

@tylerwatt12 He was just asking questions and asking you to look into it lol. Exept for the HighQue or whatever. And when he does tell ya info he does tell you where he got it from or who said it.

[OSHackmaster]

What is this in the background on the right side of the picture?

[Tekka579]

It will come out that CarrierIQ operates under a certain branch of the government.... Watch!

[fl4k088]

You made some good points Azrienoch. I also too wonder where all that data goes. If I have my right to privacy then there should be no reason why anybody, not even the government should be viewing my data for whatever reason.

[mrkc1331]

Great journalism...to the point!!!

[o0TONE0o]

EPIC job, and great wrap-up at the end. XDA-TV is the best.

[gyphon23]

Wooo....the last part of sex offender just epic....it just raise the seriousness of this issue, a weird comparison, but i does feel the "Wooooo" <--- speechless

[thedailyxoom]

If i remember correctly, the government was talking about placking tracking chips into every American a few years ago...most people say it was just conspiracy theorists having fun...well now it actual reality but they were smarter than most expected by placing the tracking functionality into our phones...all that's left is for the government to begin subsidizing the price of these phones and the service so everyone has one...my question is why? and to what ends.?

[somegui430]

10 people work for at&t

[TheFreakDay]

Ich scheiß auf die Entwickler von CarrierIQ du können sonst wen erzählen "allein zur Qualitätssicherung" behinderte Leute gibt es keine Privatsphäre nicht mehr !!

[DrPains]

YEAYUH! Thanks keep on truckin!

[Opensourcegangster]

That was great. Wow I've never thought about it that way.

[garradalexanderkiss]

You're really good at this. Enjoyable listen. Scary issue

[tazep21]

Nice ending lol

[keny46]

Rofl at people making a big deal out of this like this is the first ever intrusive digital happening.

[cbram12]

Great video azrienoch. You made so many valid points in this.

[chrisjbd]

Awesome info and very well put across as usual. Def think you could and should do longer videos 5mins is just not enough for us we need more. Lol.

[metalfolks]

@chrisjbd seconding that. Also, it would be awesome if you could put on XdaTV as a podcast on itunes or something like it, I would love to watch you guys on the road!

[TheFarmerDeBoer]

Will someone give this guy a medal already?

[rudolf895]

@TheFarmerDeBoer lol +100m

[Rayz093]

I'm here for Carrier IQ and i'm using CM7 :D

[jsnieves53]

Just a thought, is this a good way to get out of a 2year phone contract!

[marniespeaks]

remove the battery

[marniespeaks]

you move again?

[Traveler246]

Has anyone told this guy he looks like Dr. House in his college years?

[punkposer]

I love my Nexus S even more right now.

[AngelosDracul]

@punkposer I used to have CIQ, like everyone else. Then I took an arrow to the knee.

[NoNiceNamesLeft]

@AngelosDracul i never had it

[AngelosDracul]

@NoNiceNamesLeft What I meant to say was: I got a Nexus....

[knightnz]

Excellent video!



[roar109]

What kind of letter is the tattoo in the arm of @azrienoch the "unsaid" one? helvetica?

[Thalinor00]

Proposed Legal Changes: Get rid of "opt-out". Any company that wishes to use its software & hardware to track, profile, log, report, or any other data-mining, including but not limited to advertising, statistical analysis, profiling, or any other reason must have users "opt-in" to such activities. Any user who refuses should be given an avenue to do so while still using the product they purchased fully and w/o limitation. This extends to changes in existing privacy settings and policies.

[Thalinor00]

It is up to every end user to demand privacy in every aspect of technology. In the US lobbying for advertisement and data-mining agencies are working to invade and control every aspect of your life. It's corporate greed thats driving this privacy invasion as data-mining is huge money for the advertising industry. Why is it other countries have laws to protect their citizens but not the US? Every wonder why custom roms run faster and crash less? Its crapware & spyware causing the problems!

[Thalinor00]

Whats worse is we PAY companies to invade our privacy, slow down our devices, cause random reboots, instability, etc. Why is it if I pay full retail price for a phone ($600) I have to deal with bloatware on my device that can't be removed. The carrier can't say its needed to recuperate lost income from a subsidized device if I paid full retail. Worse, Google is doing NOTHING. My Droid X2 tells me its spying every time I load up the GPS and the only option is NOT TO USE GPS. Thats WRONG.

[Thalinor00]

Why should I have to Root (I am of course, and am active on XDA) my device and void my warranty? The only solution is changes to the privacy law. Google can stop this if they want to; all they have to do is say "All Android phones have to run stock Android". Stock Android does not have Motorola's "Data Collection Service" or "Data Management Service" built into the OS. Only allow hardware companies to create their own personalized "home" interface, no changes to the OS. No Bloatware!

[Thalinor00]

If the end user wants to install a rom, its their choice but every Android phone should come with stock Android.  Updates would be sent directly from Google and would no longer take months after an OS revision due to hardware manufacture & carrier laziness or marketing plan to sell new devices. You should be able to install a different "Home" from the market (LP+, etc) and no longer have any hardware manufacture code running, only vanilla Android. Manufactures & Carriers are ruining the OS.

[jietzer]

@Thalinor00 not that easy considering that android is a open source project that means the manufactures and carriers have free roam of what they want to do with it.

[Thalinor00]

@You Facecrap using idiots. Just because YOU don't give a ratsass about your privacy doesn't mean the rest of us are ignorant and incompetent. I no longer use Facecrap after its shitdick CEO came out and said privacy is a thing of the past, and that's for the better. Who is it better for? Facecrap and its billions of dollars in data-mining; not it's users. I have been saying we need better privacy laws for years and no one listens. Opt-out should be a crime; only opt-in should be legal.

[elmanortega]

i use Facebook to tell everyone where we are and what we are doing, we use all kinds of apps to let the world know what we do at all times and what we think about everything, why is this carrier IQ affecting us?? why is so bad, we already tell the world everything we do everyday, are you wasting your time???

[azrienoch]

@elmanortega I do not share my location on Facebook. Or anywhere. Even if I did, I DECIDED to share it. We have no choice with Carrier IQ. You may choose to share on Facebook. You may choose to share your location on 4chan. But you chose.

[elmanortega]

@azrienoch we users us a lot of apps to tell the world what we do carriers can get all that info from apps but they decide to have a hidden app to do that, i get it, carriers tell us about it tell us what info you are getting and what you are going to do with that. Fine, but is not something that is going to upset 90% of users around the world, we care about bootloaders, we care about not being able to use the rom that we want, we care about all the things that we want to do with our device

[elmanortega]

@azrienoch i live in costa rica im about to open the first HTC store here, small but im on my way, i have no support down here, im all on my own, we should fight about that more support for everybody, unlocked bootloaders, freedom to choose what do you want to do with your device, you have a voice that a lot of ppl hear, i dont, carriers from usa are bad we all know, but with a custom rom you can get rid of all that junk and put something you like instead but for that we need freedom, fight.

[SweedTwail]

"why are sex offenders treated so much better than your customers!' I'd be laughing if this weren't so serious

[AceSkyNight44]

I fucking love this guy...Fuck U Carrier IQ!!

[ghale1971]

Just to let you no in the UK this company can not operate and no uk network use this but were behind you ( well bob any how ) all the way

[Peroxide014]

TrevE's app removed carrier iq and htc logging from my tBolt :D

[MEGADUCE6]

Respect.... Cuz ya bang bob not ur cuz of ur work.... Jk

[DeCourseyyy]

Nexus FTW. No CIQ!

[Peroxide014]

@DeCourseyyy lol every phone has it

[TechKidTarek]

Carrier iq is not that much here in the uk

[TheFri13]

I feel sad when I think about customers situation in US and what kind problems they are with their carriers. The network quality, the service quality, the network speed, network broadband, SIM locking, contract locking... you name it.

Like where in US I would get a network contract for 2 years what is 3 dollars a month with unlimited data amount and bandwidth? Like how it sounds that I could go almost anywhere and I could get full speed what network just can give and unlocked SIM?

[qbking77]

What I've been trying to tell people for a long long time.

[AngelosDracul]

@qbking77 Preach, brotha!

[lrbofficial]

Here here

[jcmaddox01]

Ran it opn Inspire 4G with ICS Beta and got no CIQ ^.^

[Rawrfearmeh333]

Carrier IQ used to track my data, wtill i got shoot by an arrow in the knee

[SassiBoB]

@Rawrfearmeh333 LOLOLOLOL

[AngelosDracul]

@Rawrfearmeh333 awwww, I thought I was the first to use this... damn.

[psychoace]

When Apple and Google got in trouble for it's GPS logging. Mere days later Apple was in court dealing with congress. When it deals with a high percentage of people the high courts take quick actions. Also because this has to deal with snooping and tracking they need to make sure no federal offenses on a large scale have been committed. When peaking into someones personnel life like this, full disclosure is absolutely necessary. This is just like a swat team raiding a meth lab. Only nicer.

[dataghost196]

I prefer to be a ghost...I have a cell but with adequate encryption...

[MrTransits]

Point Well made !

[Luger718A1]

He's a boss at ranting and actually being right all the time

[bandkaih]

*saw azrienioch in pic* oh yeah cant wait to hear this rant!

[callen510yt]

This...

[ccbunny87]

7 ppl are CarrierIQ's staff @@

[shohid1234]

wow, i think your a bit upset, come to the UK, we dont any of that carrier iq bullshit!

[stubertphoenix]

@shohid1234 yet. give it time.

[JBTYpr]

FINALLY HES BACK!

[eestrada1128]

WOW!!!

[LiamSization]

aren't you making a big deal about this? i meen if this has been going on for some time why should you suddenly care so much about it? its not like everything just changed and white is black and left is right... i dont live in the us and i dont think my country has the carrieriq shit but honestly.... i couldn't give a flying fuck about it, its not worth wasting a mili second of my life on

[azrienoch]

@LiamSization What changed is we found out about it. It was kept hidden before.

[LiamSization]

@azrienoch and so what? it dosnt change anything, the world is still the same, your overreacting and blowing it WAY up, if the info they're logging is for making cellular network better then whats the problem? what du you feer so much

[azrienoch]

@LiamSization It changes everything. We thought we lived in a world where we chose when we gave out data. Turns out we don't. It's like you waking up to find your email or bank account hacked. Oh, yeah, you can be mad, but little did you know, the hacker had your password for years and used it quietly until they slipped up and you noticed. By your reasoning, you shouldn't be mad in that situation.

[TomaCukor]

@LiamSization well good luck being ignorant all your life, but should atleast have the decency to respect others' opinions

[g0dsgreen]

Excellent closing argument.

[jtwebman]

Nice to have you back Jeff, great video and great questions!

[melojordans23]

Cyanogen Mod gotta love it

[SirThumpaLot420]

#Truth

[tweak2487]

@duane534 umm, RIM isnt even close CIQ has been found in iOS, Android and RIM, however google doesnt put this on to their aosp or to the nexus phones, so CIQ is doing more or less depending on your phone and manufactuerer, and its the hardware makers/software coders blaming the carriers and visa versa

[LKodiak]

You don't know it, but I miss Sassibob!

[blkrse22]

Awesome epd

[dyshaun08]

Carrier IQ is doing exactly what the government is paying them to do.

[upallhours9]

Very informative.

[MrMegaMarten]

This was the best moral of the week. Ever.

[fczeuner]

Outstanding as usual.

[duane534]

"RIM [BlackBerry] is aware of a recent claim... that an application called “CarrierIQ” is installed on mobile devices... without the knowledge or consent of the... users. RIM does not pre-install the CarrierIQ app... or authorize its... partners to install the CarrierIQ app before sales or distribution. RIM also did not develop or commission the development of the... application, and has no involvement in the testing... or distribution of the app. RIM will continue to investigate..."

[duane534]

@duane534 HTC, Samsung, and similar OEMs need to take the same stance. Now.

[angelxsid]

@duane534 RIM is hardly the best example anyway.

[EffenMexican]

I knew it! and they said i was paranoid for buying an unlocked phone

[ellipsis89]

Hey man, you r the BEST!!

[Shoulon]

One of his best episodes ever.

[MrKennedy500]

the power of data is far greater than we all think...

[TheFinalDroid]

You can opt out of Carrier IQ, install CM7

[EndlessDistress]

@TheFinalDroid My phone doesn't have that. stupid samsung wont releas ril :(

[DepthOfMyBrain]

@TheFinalDroid CM7 = CyanogenMod ? still doesnt work for i9001 right ? damn...

Oh.. an a question: I bought my phone without any contract or stuff like that, so carrier IQ is only a preinstalled app by the contract providers right ?

So i am using a prepaid sim, meaning i shouldnt worry or w0000t ?

[andresclari]

@TheFinalDroid Most people don't even know how to root... is good that vanilla Android doesn't include this. But it's outrageous that 98% of customers that stay with the default that came with their phone have this spyware installed.

[bladerunner12]

@TheFinalDroid They don't support the Epic 4G Touch :(

[Gripdagr8one]

Woooo.....amen amen, got me sweating like Church! Preach it brother

[XXXdc5]

everyone put on your foil hats!!

[jkolner]

I miss SassiBoB...

[furiadavid]

I want out!!! they have no business having access to my stuff!!!

[zZiBlacKouTZz]

The last rant is so true.

[fahoodxx]

SassiBoB FTW!!!

[furiadavid]

I hope this mess is gonna be solved soon!! cuz they have no business having access to my private parts!!!

[MrTekn010933]

Great job! Az' TrevE and XDA, that's it!!

Lol@all devices on WiFi!

[nbigdog2000]

Thus why I love my CM7 and soon to be CM9 Atrix :)

[Dcdatruth85]

Me and this guy think the same. I know why bob loves him.

[Gunnyman123]

Spot on brother. Carrier IQ needs to go and the carriers need to be regulated.  Why federal wiretapping laws don't apply here is mind boggling.

[aklp08]

We are all sex offenders!!

[danstechhelp]

... I les

[lanceseidman]

It's amazing as I type this at home, my data is probably being sent to Microsoft and AT&T via my WP7 device but from my responses from MS, it would be my Carrier who has the last say on what to enable even though it IS an option they have pre-programmed for additional Usability Research. What? Did I get fooled? Who do I sue? MS for making the option or AT&T for maybe using it?

[DarknesSxLDS]

Since i'm a VIP, i care about my identity and security and all... but why do you, below-normal people, care about Carrier IQ?

[masterofxdk]

@DarknesSxLDS so, you want carriers to read your texts?

[DarknesSxLDS]

@masterofxdk To be completely clear, I DON'T CARE!!!!

I have nothing to hide, and what i want to actually hide is only in my mind and can't be read (at this time, at least)

But i'm also NOT saying that carriers can put these programs in my phone.. but these topics are just overrated IMO..

[bjxt]

@DarknesSxLDS Im guessing you never purchased an app from the android market? Many of us have..and have typed our credit card details. That is just one of the reasons why most people are freaked out.

[DarknesSxLDS]

@bjxt Well, i ...... never thought of that... so thanks for freaking me out now :/

[NeuraliX]

@DarknesSxLDS Because it is a violation of our rights, you do realize that us "below normal" people have right,right?

thanks Az, you again do wonderful work.

[xBx3xAxSxT]

Azrienoch > sam

[masterofxdk]

@xBx3xAxSxT Sam > Azrienoch *Fixed* :D

[TeamSYGA]

fuck first

[AXooooXA]

Niggaa