It's not a man's issue or business, even though a man created the child. The child is just as much the father's as it is the mother's. Just because the child is inside the mother's womb doesn't make it any less the father's. It's pretty hypocritical that this guy says he believes in the right to life, but believes a woman's right to have a child killed is more important than an unborn living human being's right to life.
Also GDProphetXVII, what about the woman's control over the child's body?
I believe its a persons GOD given right to choose. But dont cry when you may face physical emotional or mental consecquences due ot having an abortion.
Yeah, essentially. What I'm saying is we are all free to make the choices we make... so long as they don't HINDER the freedoms of others or infringe on the rights of another human being. The baby has a right to life that trumps the mother's right to choose. If I wanted to kill you because you were mooching off me and living in my apartment, should I be allowed to? Your right to life is protected under our law. It's a matter of principle.
Actually, it's not the woman's body. The woman is now the child's home and his/her right to life trumps the woman's right to choice. Yes, you have freedom. But that freedom only goes to the point where you impede on the freedom of another human. Don't want to get pregnant? Wear a fuckin condom or don't have sex. Anything after Trimester 1 is straight up murder, and I don't feel any better or worse just because I'm a dude. I know plenty of girls my age that are pro-life. (high school junior here)
LoL.. Out of all the things he said its about control, my favorite was "self control" like not murdering a baby because your to lazy to do whats "RIGHT"
With all do respct sir, u r COMPLETELY out of ur mind...how r u gona compare abortion with hairy legs??? n u have absolutely NO idea what the true definition of a man is. wat makes u think males should have no say in whether their child should be born or not?? I mean r u serious?? That's really ur position?? ur amazing...
still think I should have the right to say not to murder my child.. but in the new era of womens rights and strong women i guess its pretty silly to interfer with women trying to reach the levels of men before them, i just wish they would strive to be like good men, not genocidal maniacs... The democrat party through its policy of abortion has killed 7 times more people than hitler.... and about twice as many blacks as hitler killed jews, and they call the other side racist lol.
in my opinion im pro-choice, i believe in womens rights. NO ONE out there knows what these women go through ESPECIALLY if they were raped. no MAN has the right to tell a woman what she should do with her body!only SHE knows whats right FOR HER!! she should be the one to decide for herself. if she regrets it later on in life thats HER problem but NO ONE should tell HER what she HAS TO DO!! its HER life. and HER body and HER decision!! BUT I DONOT AGREE WITH PARTIAL ABORTION to me that is murder!!
I don't know where to start to say how much I don't agree with you. You compare sex to shaving and pooping!!!!! ...Not OK!!!!! I also, think your reversed in your understanding of gender roles and rights. Equality is the now trend, and it's a good thing.
if men dont have a say.... do they have to pay child support? I bet you would say they do, even though all they did was give sperm, and the man might want to control his body and the money he works for with his body... Liberals are so stupid.
@ramerican in my opinion thats something totally diffrent, if the woman had the baby its ur child too. u have to care for it as well but if she doesnt want to have a baby i think its HER choice :)
@monica2ization you know its been proven that babies being aborted often try to escape the tool being used to kill it, they even move away from chemicals used to give the baby a heart attack. Amazing to me that in your mind, something created out of half my DNA with a heartbeat would be something I would no have to right to say ... NO... DONT CRUSH MY BABIES SKULL, but if the woman decides not to crush my babies skull than i have to sacrifice my body for years of work to support it, fair?
@ramerican i still think it is, u are the father therefore if the woman decides to have the baby u should take care of it to. but i still think its her decision weather she wants to HAVE IT in the first place, by that i mean going through labor and pregnancy.....but i really dont believe in partial abortion, b/c she would have already gone through that and then whats the point, if u dont want the baby then give it up for adoption.
How refreshing to see a man with some inspirational and insightful thoughts, especially after constantly having to put up with the plethora of erroneous assertions made by dogmatic male thinkers
Men must have a say in pregnancy. We need each other to have babies so all of this must involve clear communication. If you're not ready to raise a child be abstinent or use birth control & insist your partner do also. Likewise if you are against abortion you must not have sex with someone that is willing to have one if she becomes pregnant or a man that will want you to get one if you do. I firmly believe & it is never said -the truth is when a woman has an abortion a man has one also.
Oh sorry, in my below post, I didn't mean to say "Surprisingly the same", because the DNA between a Human and Banana is not the same. I meant to say, "Surprisingly similar", sorry!
It's not woman's body, but child's... you ignorant. Compare DNA of woman's and child's body- it's different. That means that they are two separate bodies.
of course you have nothing to do with abortion, because you are not threaten by it any more.
Compare the DNA between a Banana and a Human. It's surprisingly the same. If we judged life based on DNA, then hunting would be illegal. Life begins when a baby begins to be able to think for him/herself, be able to feel pain, be able to survive on their own. It is NOT judged based off of DNA, that is ridiculous.
Your a idiot. If a woman CHOOSES to have sex she should except the chance of making a baby. If she is raped or there is a health related issue, then I say she can abort, ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL
Prophet, you keep talking about how we're trying to control women, yet you conveniently ignore the fact that we as men are OPPRESSED by present-day society into LOSING kids we want or caring for kids we don't want. I'd like to see if your opinion stays the same when you're poor and your partner gets pregnant and decides to have a child that YOU will be FORCED to care for financially, completely against your wishes and fitness for fatherhood.
@gorboy Hello it takes two to tango and if YOU dont take the proper precautions to avoid getting her pregnant then you should pay. Dont put it in if you dont want what could always happen even if you both take the proper precautions
Your ignorance is only surpassed by your stupidity. I would hardly call a wretchedly bad analogy of controlling your own body regarding the elimination of bodily waste as an appropriate comparison to eliminating a human life in the same fundamentally functional manner. If your parents held your view, we would be commenting on a different video at this time; your video wouldn't exist, as you wouldn't exist to have made it.
@cosg9531 I'm gonna say the same thing to you because Pro- CHOICE means there is a CHOICE to have the child or not, here's a perfect example, ummmmmmmmm ME you fucking idiot. Both my parents are pro CHOICE and I'm alive so yeah your completely wrong.
My friends who sidewalk counsel at abortion centers have often seen women and girls pressured by their boyfriends/husbands and fathers to abort... Literally dragging them into the clinic by their arm. It's an easy out ... for men.
Raise a not wanted child: Not A Man's Business either. She carries it, she decide, she take the full responsability. Why should a men take the responsabilty for something that was not given the opportunity to decide?
Here's how I feel about it. If a man is truly so pro-life that he is afraid his girlfriend/wife/one-night-stand will abort his potential child he should COMMUNICATE with the woman he's about to have sex with and make sure she's NOT pro-choice. That way any 'accidents' that happen will be born and the pro-life men can't cry about it anymore.
I will be pro-choice forever. No man, pro-life or pro-choice will tell me what I can and cannot do with my own uterus. Also I enjoyed this video. =)
Wow way 2 go u r so honest I know u might be homo or whatever but ur mad cute and honestly i wish my mom would've got with someone like u ur totally sweet. Also yeah as a person whose lived like this for 20 yrs. I would say I wish my mom would've aborted me I believe she had me cuz she wanted to be all "christian" but wasn't being christian when she fornicated.
I disagree that a man should not have a voice in this decision. I am not clear how that should look though. I think that if conception took place, it's more than just sperm inserted into a woman. From that point on, the child is also the man's. The woman should have final say, but the idea that a child is aborted solely because the woman doesn't want the child, but the man would (in rare occasions) should have some merrit. But how that should look legally? No clue. :)
if you truly loved your "son" would of keep of hands to yourself and learn NOT to use your family members from trying to STOP ppl from destroying your illogical fallacy filled-factoid arguments!
i backed up everything i said sites that has credible information, and you have yet to do it ONCE.
you keep trying to tie sanger to abortion...she/PP is NOT abortion or the rights have one...abortion is older than BOTH by several millennias!
DEEP DOWN, U LET YOURSELF AND/OR OTHERS BRAINWASH YOU WITH THIS PRO-LIFE FASCIST CRAP, BUT WHEN I PUT IT RAW N' DIRTY TO YOU, AND SHOW YOU HOW IT'S ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and your bible even supports abortion....YOU IGNORE IT.
funny, how U fascists are all about this "black genocide" while refusing to save the thousands of dying black PPL in africa...oh, the irony!
you are not helping black ppl: UNWANTED PREGNANCY HARMS WOMEN AND FETUSES BY STRESS.
your website is shit, none of it's verified! i don't give an damn about your personal story...i'm trying to enlighten U.
i was pregnant and PP didn't "target" me...i wonder why? because PP doesn't target black women or any women, U R just too fucking brainwashed/stupid to see that some women WANT/NEED abortions...THEY CHOOSE ABORTIONS BECAUSE IT THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO DO IT.
i gave U the VERSE that proves abortion is supported by the bible, WTF do U think to CAUSE a miscarrying womb means?
no, you just can't accept that you are WRONG, been mislead and BRAINWASHED!
what you're doing is called "The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes."
your pride is getting in the way.
wow, PP is in black neighborhoods! why? because the land is cheaper, it's a FACT AND SUPPLY N' DEMAND.
how does drinking liquid made from "dust" off a floor counts as a infidelity test?!
the maury show needs to know about this...dust doesn't have that power,duh!
read the NIV's footnote of numbers 5:11-31 saying "to CAUSE a miscarrying womb and barrenness" after the woman was liquid made from "dust" off a floor.
if she was cheating according to the footnote, if pregnant would cause a miscarrying womb= that's induce abortion.
abortion is not murder, murder is the UNLAWFUL killing w/ intent and abortion is legal, a civil and constitutional right....ask any COP!
no logical person is going to take you seriously because you not know basic law vocabulary. "BELIEF" =/= REALITY
not having gay marriages violates "constitutional rights" of the 14th amendment's "equal protection clause" for gay citizens....abortion DOES NOT violates anyone constitutional rights, duh....you are wrong again.
it's clear that the fetus can no legal rights of the woman's body, slavery is UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE 13TH AMENDMENT.
a fetus has no right to due process.
"The mother made a choice to sleep with a man and not use protection."
your morality is not law and has no legal power over anyone...sex =/= a legal, binding contract for an unwanted fetus to live inside a woman's body against her will and rights.
i was born in 83'...Marget missed her chance all time ago, if she truly want it
no, it's becoming clear you have no argument against me or abortion...marget/PP is not ABORTION/ROE VS. WADE AND NOT A WOMAN'S WILL, CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO HAVE ONE.
"The problem I see is you dont believe a Baby in the womb is human"
where in your failed logic, did i say a FETUS wasn't human? it is human, and it has no right to life against the will, civil, and constitutional rights of the woman.
i DON'T support infanticide which IS killing babies and it's ILLEGAL unlike abortion--which is will, civil and constitutional rights of all america women to exercise with if THEY deemed necessary.
unlike you, who is a pro-life fascist want to force all women into slavery (unconstitutional by the 13th amendment) by forcing keep unwanted pregnancy against their will, rights and causing harm to their bodies...and YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HELP RAISE THE CHILD 18 YRS.
my beliefs are moot to the will, civil and constitutional rights for all American women to have an abortion...it's clear U don't have an argument against me or abortion.
how am i brainwashed, if i support the will, civil and constitutional rights of other to do things that are legal, pro life-fascist?
no, U proved nothing, you just said she is racist and PP but NOT in their own words.
"abortion is genocide?" then why don't you include all women in this "fact" and the law
no, it's clear you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
murder is the UNLAWFUL killing w/ intent...abortion is NOT murder because it's a civil and constitutional right....ask any lawyer!
this is why your lil' "negro project" never got off of youtube because any body with basic law and science skills, and common sense can destroy it. "breeding dogs" is metaphorical for a woman being force to stay pregnancy against her will and rights like a DOG.
1. You need to go look into the fact that Planned Parenthood was created by Marget Sanger in order to stop the African Americans from breeding what she called human weeds.
2. Why are you calling any lil Baby a dog? My son in 1/2 black and I find that disrespectful
3. 3 out of evdry 4 Planned Parenthoods is located in Black areas of urban citys not they are building more in high Latino area's but from your post I dont think that you mind that fact much you seem to be a racist.
i will not answer any stupid your questions until you answer my first one
third time now:" so you think a black women SHOULD BE breeding dogs and slaves to biology and to pro-life fascists' morality instead of excising their will, civil and constitutional right to abort?"
AND I'M BLACK.
there is no such thing has "legal murder", dumbass....talk to any lawyer.
murder is the UNlawful killing w/ intent...abortion is a civil and constitutional right for women.
abortion been on the earth since the dawn of man...the first documented abortion was done in ancient Egypt.
/wiki/History_of_abortion
and HOW is PP destroying the black race...if those black women chooses to abort their abort their black child?
so you think a black women should be breeding dogs and slaves to biology and to pro-life fascists' morality instead of excising their will, civil and constitutional right to abort?
just answer the question, since you are morality trip.
"so you think a black women should be breeding dogs and slaves to biology and to pro-life fascists' morality instead of excising their will, civil and constitutional right to abort?"
and bitching about liberals= i can't think for myself against questions that conflicts with "freedom" and constitution.
margret sanger didn't do anything....black women wanted birth control and abortions= no one was forced to have either.
It maybe the womens body, but its the mans wallet that will take the hit for the next 18 years as he tithes a percentage of his wages to a child he did not want. Equality goes both ways dude.
men have everything to do with this issue. it was his sperm that fertilized the egg forming a baby. thus he should have a say regardless of it he does not know how it feels like to be pregnant .
and I doubt men know what goes on during an abortion so they should educate themselves on the procedure before saying anything about it. condoms are 10 bucks a pack .
@Charmedlassie18 except when one side lies about the contraceptive measures they've taken, or if the contraceptive methods used fail (which happens). What happens when the woman in question DOES want to have a child, even though the couple had discussed it & decided not to?
And the second part of my response is that if two people consensually copulate they are likewise responsible to the child they create. Culturally, I think our fierce commitment to individualism distorts our awareness of our own dependence on those around us. I fear that this distortion extends to the way we misunderstand an unborn child's dependent symbiosis with it's mother. A fetus is not like a gall bladder in the way it is a "part" of her body. A fetus is separate, but totally dependent
"I fear that this distortion extends to the way we misunderstand an unborn child's dependent symbiosis with it's mother"
the fetus is a bio-parasite unto the woman's body.
The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.
"My basic response to this video is that if a man "contributes" sperm and a baby is created he is responsible to care for that child and the child's mother."
a lot of the time that does happen= abortion is best option.
and legally no, a man has no right to a woman's body or the fetus inside her and is legally powerless to stop any abortion w/o the woman's consent, and can leave any time.
"All he did was put sperm inside of this woman's body..." My basic response to this video is that if a man "contributes" sperm and a baby is created he is responsible to care for that child and the child's mother. Likewise, if a woman invites a man to put sperm into her body, it does not feel right to me that she would act to terminate her pregnancy apart from paternal consent. Is it outside the realm of possibility that he may want to be a father to this child?
"all you did is put sperm inside this woman's body" and half the child is genetically yours, which some men (hopefully) would be emotionally attached to. is it not some load on the father to have a fraction of the decision of whether they have a kid or not? I feel like the father would be expected to support the child if the mother keeps it so why should he not have a say in the abortion. Though I do feel like abortions should be limited to under 24s and not just for not wanting a kid.
Just as soon as men grow uteruses and get pregnant, then they can have a say in whether or not to have an abortion. You should only get to control your own body, not others.
@RichKnight2010 It's not a child yet and no,guys have no right to do anything because they're not the one who is going to go through absolute hell and have their body changed forever by a baby. If people could no longer have abortions then trust me,guys would have close to no sex life because NO woman would want to risk having a baby that they had no choice over. So if you want to "protect" your future child then don't have sex until you plan to reproduce. The end.
@RichKnight2010 Ok, when men can get pregnant, I'll support their legal right to choose whether or not to abort the fetus growing inside them. Seeing as how they can't, they don't get to have veto power over another person.
"Since men cant get pregnant,they have nothing to say about abortion??" If that were true,doctors couldnt treat a disease unless they had it first.How could we train funeral directors when they have never died?How can we oppose Hitlers genocide if were not Germans or Jews,or slavery if we were not slaves or slave holders?In any case,each child has a father. &52% of all unborn babies are boys.
umm. actually you don't realize how maternalistic this country is. i also think that so long as her choice causes $500 to be deducted out of the guys paycheck i think he should definitely have a voice in.
if women want to blaber on about "my body my rules so shut up" mantra then men should be able to get out of child support payments because if he was in the place of the woman he would have gotten the abortion.
Why do men have no freedom when it comes to being a Father?You will raise the baby financially, or emotionally, and if you don't your a dead beat or arrested. If you want the baby and she terminates the baby that's an example of powerlessness,an example of having no control. You say you are about equality and freedom but your arguments are all in favour of women's issues and not men's. I think women should have a right to abortions but abortion clinics should not be subsidized in any way.
@polutc I agree. If women are stupid enough to have a baby you do not want and then have the nerve to ask you for child support, they don't deserve anything. If she's rich and can care for it herself, fine. If not, sorry, honey, but I'm not paying for that kid. I'd face jail time before I do that.
@gorboy It is men like you that gives men a bad name. You have sex with a woman even if you wear a condom (note condoms are only 99.9% affective at avoiding getting a woman pregnant). IF a man is dumb enough to pump away and then let it all go in her then her should pay as it takes two to do the deed. Now if you were to have evidence that she got pregnent to just take money from you then by GOD fight it. And Ill pray that you win my friend
@Hulkmania316 says: because with men pay taxes and with those taxes the goverment finances abortion clinics
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Abortion is NOT government funded. Read the de Ammendment that says abortion will only be funded if a case of rape or incest! Maybe we should not allow you a choice because youre stuppid!
@Sueezee1 I didn't knew that. Well, stil men will pay 18 years of child support and should have the right to avoid that responsability just like a woman can have an abortion. So still men should have a say in this.
Patriarchical society ? Is this the same society that feminist writers say that every thrust of the heterosexual male is enforcing the subservience of women?
Of course, men want a say in their reproductive rights, with either a forced abortion or a "legal abortion" abdicating all responsibility of the child. If the child is not considered the property or responsibility of the man as it is of the woman, they it is indeed the woman's complete choice. As it stands, nine months of gestation is an important but relatively insignificant when compared to the investment of two decades of time, money and effort.
Im thinking that the woman is the one that should have the final say. Men can put there oppinion forward about it as much as they want, but in the endd, its not affecting them annywhere near as much and the cannot understand fully the consequences for either choice.
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As a woman, I'd say that the woman is not the only one who faces the consequences. This isn't a gender issue at all for me--it's a human issue. If a woman chooses not to give birth to the baby forming inside her, she is denying the opportunity to live to that child. That's the issue of have of being "pro-choice" What about that child's choice? I know for a fact that if abortion had been socially acceptable, I would not be alive today.
This is the issue: Societies collectively decide what rights are to be afforded to all members of that society. In the USA, we have all agreed that all our citizens are entitled to the right to life. The meat of the discussion is whether or not the member of society deserving of that right exists while within the body of another, or the moment they exit that body. I personally think that all members of society are entitled to engage in that discussion and that decision.
you seems to be forgetting that the male parent, by the mere fact of being genetically linked to the potential human, gains legal responsibility, which tells me, that giving the female a choice and leaving the male without a say in the subject would be wrong. since they both share responsibility, the should share the right to choose.
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abortions is a man's business because men help bring that creature into this world.
I think women shouldn't have the choice to kill an innocent creature,if she doesn't want it she should give it up for abortion or better yet,she should keep her legs cross.
the baby is a product of a man and a woman .. and whether or not it will be born is to be decided by both. If someone doesn't wanna take that responsibility than they shouldn't have to. If one of the parents - the man or the woman - doesn't want to have the baby. than they should have the option to abort
your opinion but legally and in reality, he doesn't share equal burden of the pregnancy as the embryo is using his body to live... therefore, he doesn't have an equal say, also he has no legal rights to the embryo because he has no legal rights over the woman's body...how you're going to say to a woman "you can't have an abortion," when it's inside her body...dude, stop being a fascist!
@FREEAMERICANOW69 Pro-aborts keep saying that stories of horrific mills &the abortionists who run them are isolated. Pro-aborts avert their eyes to protect abortion,certainly not to protect women.I find it rather bazaar that you belittle the deaths of your prochoice sister who fall victim to the abortionists.You bury the truth right along w/the victims of abortions!I wish you could minimize the deaths the way you minimize these women!
Everyone has the right to their own body but when it involves other human life (the father and/or child) the woman has to think of others. Honestly how hard is it too carry a baby for 9 months when you are given a father a child and a child a life?
I have to disagree; I believe abortion is wrong - it is taking away another's life, which is murder (murder is illegal). You say "she's the one carrying it", well I can say this, once you've had a child you have to raise it, if you were to kill your child then it would be wrong and you would be arrested. The man SHOULD have a say as it is his baby as much as it is hers', it takes two to tango. I feel if they are not ready, then adoption would be a better option.
no, sorry, he helped put it there but he doesn't share equal burden of the pregnancy, so why should he has equal say? also, he has no legal rights to the embryo because he has no legal rights to the woman's body...that's why men have no rights.
may be I didn't make my self clear .. if either of the parents don't want the child .. than they should NOT have it .. even if the other parent wants it ..
as I said before " If someone doesn't wanna take that responsibility than they shouldn't have to"
also I'm not American so I don't know the law there
legal legal legal! fuck legal, how about morals morals morals, if a women ever aborted my baby without my permission, i would fucking kill her and the abortionist!
if you put that baby in her then its as much yours as it is hers!
if what you say is written in stone then, abortion is 100% womens fault not man!
its a very small amount of women who will abort the mans baby without his permission ( yes we know women don't need permission), its just the few like you that let women down and don't do the right thing. you see my point though? having sex with a women and making a baby with her does make the BABY yours! just the same as making a baby makes a man responsible for child maintenance! otherwise we could just say well it came out of your body not mine! but that would lead to more abortions by women!
@fukdyamum No woman ever needs permission. Very few women will not inform their boyfriends, and those who don't likely have good reason.
All you contributed is sperm, nothing more. She's not a bank you can invest in.
If you really want to regard a fetus as a baby, a person, then it really doesn't belong to anyone. You want it to be yours? Then take it into your body and give birth to it. Regardless of whose the 'baby' is, her body remains hers and she doesn't owe you, or the fetus use of it.
yes I understand that! if that's the case then don't get pregnant if your not willing to keep it you slags, women asking for child maintenance is a double standard then it must be, I mean after all you say its not a mans responsibility, it came out of the womens body not the mans!
@fukdyamum Punctuation and full sentences are nice.
Yes, it's ideal to never get pregnant in the first place. But it still happens and when it does it's up to the one who is pregnant to decide and take what is the most responsible course of action for them.
You don't get pregnant, so that's not you. I'm not being sexist for pointing that out, that's biology. It's not my fault you don't get a uterus and you lack of one does not give you licence to declare ownership over someone who does.
@FREEAMERICANOW69 Well don't watch it right away, take your time. (it's about a certain kind of logical fallacy often used in abortion discussions -it doesn't get into whether or not abortion is good)
@undercover343 I dont think they should have the right to abort anything, but if they never opted in to having a child to start with & took measures to not have a child then they should not be held fiscally responsible for that child if the mother decides to keep it.
@undercover343 Who said they did... If you read what i actually said, i said that if a man never opted in to having a child to start with & took all reasonable measures to protect against insemination of a sexual partner, then they should not be held fiscally responsible for that child if the mother decides to keep it.
Nothing was said about aborting the unborn child. You may want to read what is actually written before you post a reply. Also you may want to not open with the @ insults.
a baby belongs to a man as well.hescalled thefather.men shouldn't have to pay child support if its all about the woman.if the baby just belongs to her.your fucking stupid
The father should have at least a say in what happens to his child. If he's willing to raise the child then he should have the right to at least have his opinion heard. Ultimately, it is the woman's body, but it's not only her child. I do agree that she should have the choice, but shouldn't be able to go behind the father's back, sometimes without even telling him first.
I agree sebastian, on both points. As to youngoddme's coment, all living matter have souls. However the souls of the young are base souls with little within them, so little that it is more of useless mush than a soul.
Other than rape, all abortions wouldnt need to happen if people started taking responsibility for their actions and using protection! I wouldnt want to bring a child into this screwed up world anyway.
abortion should at least be allowed for victims of rape who become pregnant. i would feel horrible for any woman who was forced to deliver a baby who was the result of an assult.
I don't agree, its true that its a woman's body but not entirely her baby! the baby has a father also, so no it should not be the decision of the women only!
okay, now what i tell people when this topic is brought up is that it's my body, and i do not want to carry a child. i do not plan to have children at any point.
think about this: a baby at six months old doesn't know what it's really doing correct? or if it does, it won't remember it in the future. now a tadpole sized thing living inside of my stomach that i don't want gets to choose if it gets to live in my body when it doesn't even know it's really alive.
Not all people have the same beliefs as you do. I don't believe an unborn fetus has a "soul". The US is supposedly founded on freedom of belief and freedom of choice. Constitutionally, you're entitled to your beliefs. But you are not entitled to impose them upon others.
First, he is not imposing his beliefs. Imposing his beliefs defined by Webster is to make people agree to something. He is simply stating his opinion. Which as you stated earlier is his constitutional right. Having said that, I am pro life. We do not have the right to kill a human being. As far as having a soul, the pope defines life as soon as the sperm meets the egg. Now I am bringing religion into this argument because its the support system to my belief on this issue.
It's not a man's issue or business, even though a man created the child. The child is just as much the father's as it is the mother's. Just because the child is inside the mother's womb doesn't make it any less the father's. It's pretty hypocritical that this guy says he believes in the right to life, but believes a woman's right to have a child killed is more important than an unborn living human being's right to life.
Also GDProphetXVII, what about the woman's control over the child's body?
dfbhcf 1 month ago
I believe its a persons GOD given right to choose. But dont cry when you may face physical emotional or mental consecquences due ot having an abortion.
TheMRYEAH1979 1 month ago
Yeah, essentially. What I'm saying is we are all free to make the choices we make... so long as they don't HINDER the freedoms of others or infringe on the rights of another human being. The baby has a right to life that trumps the mother's right to choose. If I wanted to kill you because you were mooching off me and living in my apartment, should I be allowed to? Your right to life is protected under our law. It's a matter of principle.
JackMcBama 1 month ago
Actually, it's not the woman's body. The woman is now the child's home and his/her right to life trumps the woman's right to choice. Yes, you have freedom. But that freedom only goes to the point where you impede on the freedom of another human. Don't want to get pregnant? Wear a fuckin condom or don't have sex. Anything after Trimester 1 is straight up murder, and I don't feel any better or worse just because I'm a dude. I know plenty of girls my age that are pro-life. (high school junior here)
JackMcBama 1 month ago
It doesn't matter what she has to go through it shouldn't make murder legal.
WiKiDENT101 1 month ago
IF YOU ARE KILLING A CHILD IT IS WRONG COMPLETELY NO MATTER WHAT!
WiKiDENT101 1 month ago
Hitler killed 6 million Jews in the holocaust. We have killed over 40 million innocent babies through abortions.
I can't believe this is even an issue. We are slaughtering our children and cant decide if it's ok or not.
wqwwqwqqpoppopoo 2 months ago
abortion is wrong,thats it.
TruthComments 2 months ago
LoL.. Out of all the things he said its about control, my favorite was "self control" like not murdering a baby because your to lazy to do whats "RIGHT"
ramerican 5 months ago
With all do respct sir, u r COMPLETELY out of ur mind...how r u gona compare abortion with hairy legs??? n u have absolutely NO idea what the true definition of a man is. wat makes u think males should have no say in whether their child should be born or not?? I mean r u serious?? That's really ur position?? ur amazing...
07elvita 5 months ago
still think I should have the right to say not to murder my child.. but in the new era of womens rights and strong women i guess its pretty silly to interfer with women trying to reach the levels of men before them, i just wish they would strive to be like good men, not genocidal maniacs... The democrat party through its policy of abortion has killed 7 times more people than hitler.... and about twice as many blacks as hitler killed jews, and they call the other side racist lol.
ramerican 6 months ago
in my opinion im pro-choice, i believe in womens rights. NO ONE out there knows what these women go through ESPECIALLY if they were raped. no MAN has the right to tell a woman what she should do with her body!only SHE knows whats right FOR HER!! she should be the one to decide for herself. if she regrets it later on in life thats HER problem but NO ONE should tell HER what she HAS TO DO!! its HER life. and HER body and HER decision!! BUT I DONOT AGREE WITH PARTIAL ABORTION to me that is murder!!
monica2ization 6 months ago
@monica2ization I totally agree. The only thing a man can do is try to discuss the issue, but ultimately it is her choice.
rzxwm10 1 month ago
I don't know where to start to say how much I don't agree with you. You compare sex to shaving and pooping!!!!! ...Not OK!!!!! I also, think your reversed in your understanding of gender roles and rights. Equality is the now trend, and it's a good thing.
dragon8u 6 months ago
if men dont have a say.... do they have to pay child support? I bet you would say they do, even though all they did was give sperm, and the man might want to control his body and the money he works for with his body... Liberals are so stupid.
ramerican 6 months ago
@ramerican in my opinion thats something totally diffrent, if the woman had the baby its ur child too. u have to care for it as well but if she doesnt want to have a baby i think its HER choice :)
monica2ization 6 months ago
@monica2ization you know its been proven that babies being aborted often try to escape the tool being used to kill it, they even move away from chemicals used to give the baby a heart attack. Amazing to me that in your mind, something created out of half my DNA with a heartbeat would be something I would no have to right to say ... NO... DONT CRUSH MY BABIES SKULL, but if the woman decides not to crush my babies skull than i have to sacrifice my body for years of work to support it, fair?
ramerican 6 months ago
@ramerican i still think it is, u are the father therefore if the woman decides to have the baby u should take care of it to. but i still think its her decision weather she wants to HAVE IT in the first place, by that i mean going through labor and pregnancy.....but i really dont believe in partial abortion, b/c she would have already gone through that and then whats the point, if u dont want the baby then give it up for adoption.
monica2ization 6 months ago
How refreshing to see a man with some inspirational and insightful thoughts, especially after constantly having to put up with the plethora of erroneous assertions made by dogmatic male thinkers
qwertytalkszee 7 months ago
Men must have a say in pregnancy. We need each other to have babies so all of this must involve clear communication. If you're not ready to raise a child be abstinent or use birth control & insist your partner do also. Likewise if you are against abortion you must not have sex with someone that is willing to have one if she becomes pregnant or a man that will want you to get one if you do. I firmly believe & it is never said -the truth is when a woman has an abortion a man has one also.
magilojoh 7 months ago
Oh sorry, in my below post, I didn't mean to say "Surprisingly the same", because the DNA between a Human and Banana is not the same. I meant to say, "Surprisingly similar", sorry!
TeensForTheFuture 9 months ago
It's not woman's body, but child's... you ignorant. Compare DNA of woman's and child's body- it's different. That means that they are two separate bodies.
of course you have nothing to do with abortion, because you are not threaten by it any more.
trzynasciegroszy 10 months ago
@trzynasciegroszy
Compare the DNA between a Banana and a Human. It's surprisingly the same. If we judged life based on DNA, then hunting would be illegal. Life begins when a baby begins to be able to think for him/herself, be able to feel pain, be able to survive on their own. It is NOT judged based off of DNA, that is ridiculous.
TeensForTheFuture 9 months ago
Your a idiot. If a woman CHOOSES to have sex she should except the chance of making a baby. If she is raped or there is a health related issue, then I say she can abort, ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL
begley2015 10 months ago
Prophet, you keep talking about how we're trying to control women, yet you conveniently ignore the fact that we as men are OPPRESSED by present-day society into LOSING kids we want or caring for kids we don't want. I'd like to see if your opinion stays the same when you're poor and your partner gets pregnant and decides to have a child that YOU will be FORCED to care for financially, completely against your wishes and fitness for fatherhood.
gorboy 10 months ago
@gorboy It doesn't apply to him, he's gay. but his opinion is just as valuable as someone else's
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gorboy 10 months ago
@gorboy Hello it takes two to tango and if YOU dont take the proper precautions to avoid getting her pregnant then you should pay. Dont put it in if you dont want what could always happen even if you both take the proper precautions
begley2015 10 months ago
Ridiculous
theswaggle 11 months ago
Your ignorance is only surpassed by your stupidity. I would hardly call a wretchedly bad analogy of controlling your own body regarding the elimination of bodily waste as an appropriate comparison to eliminating a human life in the same fundamentally functional manner. If your parents held your view, we would be commenting on a different video at this time; your video wouldn't exist, as you wouldn't exist to have made it.
cosg9531 11 months ago
@cosg9531 I'm gonna say the same thing to you because Pro- CHOICE means there is a CHOICE to have the child or not, here's a perfect example, ummmmmmmmm ME you fucking idiot. Both my parents are pro CHOICE and I'm alive so yeah your completely wrong.
junkeyjumpers 10 months ago
My friends who sidewalk counsel at abortion centers have often seen women and girls pressured by their boyfriends/husbands and fathers to abort... Literally dragging them into the clinic by their arm. It's an easy out ... for men.
cameraclick08 11 months ago
if hat man wants the baby i see no reason why the mom would say no , but i think it is her body her choice
paramorevampire1996 1 year ago
Raise a not wanted child: Not A Man's Business either. She carries it, she decide, she take the full responsability. Why should a men take the responsabilty for something that was not given the opportunity to decide?
DMHR100 1 year ago
Here's how I feel about it. If a man is truly so pro-life that he is afraid his girlfriend/wife/one-night-stand will abort his potential child he should COMMUNICATE with the woman he's about to have sex with and make sure she's NOT pro-choice. That way any 'accidents' that happen will be born and the pro-life men can't cry about it anymore.
I will be pro-choice forever. No man, pro-life or pro-choice will tell me what I can and cannot do with my own uterus. Also I enjoyed this video. =)
Pasithea 1 year ago
You say that men don't have a voice on abortion?
I say... until you regress into an unborn child... then you don't have a voice on abortion male or female.
dex1391 1 year ago
Wow way 2 go u r so honest I know u might be homo or whatever but ur mad cute and honestly i wish my mom would've got with someone like u ur totally sweet. Also yeah as a person whose lived like this for 20 yrs. I would say I wish my mom would've aborted me I believe she had me cuz she wanted to be all "christian" but wasn't being christian when she fornicated.
keepingitreal15 1 year ago
omg finally someone who understands the issue!!! i effing love you!!!!!!!!
118rose 1 year ago
I disagree that a man should not have a voice in this decision. I am not clear how that should look though. I think that if conception took place, it's more than just sperm inserted into a woman. From that point on, the child is also the man's. The woman should have final say, but the idea that a child is aborted solely because the woman doesn't want the child, but the man would (in rare occasions) should have some merrit. But how that should look legally? No clue. :)
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BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
@B
if you truly loved your "son" would of keep of hands to yourself and learn NOT to use your family members from trying to STOP ppl from destroying your illogical fallacy filled-factoid arguments!
i backed up everything i said sites that has credible information, and you have yet to do it ONCE.
you keep trying to tie sanger to abortion...she/PP is NOT abortion or the rights have one...abortion is older than BOTH by several millennias!
about eygpt...moral relativism.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
DEEP DOWN, U LET YOURSELF AND/OR OTHERS BRAINWASH YOU WITH THIS PRO-LIFE FASCIST CRAP, BUT WHEN I PUT IT RAW N' DIRTY TO YOU, AND SHOW YOU HOW IT'S ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and your bible even supports abortion....YOU IGNORE IT.
funny, how U fascists are all about this "black genocide" while refusing to save the thousands of dying black PPL in africa...oh, the irony!
you are not helping black ppl: UNWANTED PREGNANCY HARMS WOMEN AND FETUSES BY STRESS.
thelizlibrary org/liz/004
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@B
your website is shit, none of it's verified! i don't give an damn about your personal story...i'm trying to enlighten U.
i was pregnant and PP didn't "target" me...i wonder why? because PP doesn't target black women or any women, U R just too fucking brainwashed/stupid to see that some women WANT/NEED abortions...THEY CHOOSE ABORTIONS BECAUSE IT THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO DO IT.
i gave U the VERSE that proves abortion is supported by the bible, WTF do U think to CAUSE a miscarrying womb means?
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@B
no, you just can't accept that you are WRONG, been mislead and BRAINWASHED!
what you're doing is called "The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes."
your pride is getting in the way.
wow, PP is in black neighborhoods! why? because the land is cheaper, it's a FACT AND SUPPLY N' DEMAND.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
yes, it's does...
how does drinking liquid made from "dust" off a floor counts as a infidelity test?!
the maury show needs to know about this...dust doesn't have that power,duh!
read the NIV's footnote of numbers 5:11-31 saying "to CAUSE a miscarrying womb and barrenness" after the woman was liquid made from "dust" off a floor.
if she was cheating according to the footnote, if pregnant would cause a miscarrying womb= that's induce abortion.
huppi com/kangaroo/L-bibleforbids
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
abortion is not murder, murder is the UNLAWFUL killing w/ intent and abortion is legal, a civil and constitutional right....ask any COP!
no logical person is going to take you seriously because you not know basic law vocabulary. "BELIEF" =/= REALITY
not having gay marriages violates "constitutional rights" of the 14th amendment's "equal protection clause" for gay citizens....abortion DOES NOT violates anyone constitutional rights, duh....you are wrong again.
seek enlightenment.
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@BrandonClapp74
read the NIV's footnote of numbers 5:11-31 saying "to CAUSE a miscarrying womb and barrenness" after the woman was drinking liquid from a floor.
that verse was about abortion under the ruse of a infidelity test, and it was done by a preacher, in the name of YOUR god.
god supported abortion by NOT stopping it.
hell, prove your god exists.
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@B
it's clear that the fetus can no legal rights of the woman's body, slavery is UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE 13TH AMENDMENT.
a fetus has no right to due process.
"The mother made a choice to sleep with a man and not use protection."
your morality is not law and has no legal power over anyone...sex =/= a legal, binding contract for an unwanted fetus to live inside a woman's body against her will and rights.
i was born in 83'...Marget missed her chance all time ago, if she truly want it
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
"you are eighter insane or a something worse"
no, it's becoming clear you have no argument against me or abortion...marget/PP is not ABORTION/ROE VS. WADE AND NOT A WOMAN'S WILL, CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO HAVE ONE.
"The problem I see is you dont believe a Baby in the womb is human"
where in your failed logic, did i say a FETUS wasn't human? it is human, and it has no right to life against the will, civil, and constitutional rights of the woman.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR SON
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
"Marget Sanger was not using a metaphor she was a nasty racist who hated blacks how can you defend her?"
where in your failed logic that i said i that defend/like/love marget sanger or PP?
i said repeatedly, that i support the will, civil and constitutional right to have an ABORTION.
I ALREADY GAVE YOU A LINK THAT PROVES ABORTION EXISTED WAY BEFORE MARGET WAS EVEN BORN.
wikipedia org/wiki/History_of_abortion
just give me the links that prove you're right about Margret from her words.
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@B
i DON'T support infanticide which IS killing babies and it's ILLEGAL unlike abortion--which is will, civil and constitutional rights of all america women to exercise with if THEY deemed necessary.
unlike you, who is a pro-life fascist want to force all women into slavery (unconstitutional by the 13th amendment) by forcing keep unwanted pregnancy against their will, rights and causing harm to their bodies...and YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HELP RAISE THE CHILD 18 YRS.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
my beliefs are moot to the will, civil and constitutional rights for all American women to have an abortion...it's clear U don't have an argument against me or abortion.
how am i brainwashed, if i support the will, civil and constitutional rights of other to do things that are legal, pro life-fascist?
no, U proved nothing, you just said she is racist and PP but NOT in their own words.
"abortion is genocide?" then why don't you include all women in this "fact" and the law
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
"But murder of humans is murder"
no, it's clear you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
murder is the UNLAWFUL killing w/ intent...abortion is NOT murder because it's a civil and constitutional right....ask any lawyer!
this is why your lil' "negro project" never got off of youtube because any body with basic law and science skills, and common sense can destroy it. "breeding dogs" is metaphorical for a woman being force to stay pregnancy against her will and rights like a DOG.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
it's clear you want to force a woman to stay against her will, civil and constitutional rights= YOU ARE A FASCIST.
PROVE YOUR "GOD" EXISTS.
"You can yell and fight for pro-choice because your mother allowed you to be born"
is that the best you got? mothers don't have control over their daughters uteruses.
"How many great Black leaders have we lost because of the legal Genocide of Planned Parent hood" really? the is NONE, since they don't exist.
because i support women's rights
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
1. You need to go look into the fact that Planned Parenthood was created by Marget Sanger in order to stop the African Americans from breeding what she called human weeds.
2. Why are you calling any lil Baby a dog? My son in 1/2 black and I find that disrespectful
3. 3 out of evdry 4 Planned Parenthoods is located in Black areas of urban citys not they are building more in high Latino area's but from your post I dont think that you mind that fact much you seem to be a racist.
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
@BrandonClapp74
i will not answer any stupid your questions until you answer my first one
third time now:" so you think a black women SHOULD BE breeding dogs and slaves to biology and to pro-life fascists' morality instead of excising their will, civil and constitutional right to abort?"
AND I'M BLACK.
there is no such thing has "legal murder", dumbass....talk to any lawyer.
murder is the UNlawful killing w/ intent...abortion is a civil and constitutional right for women.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@B
it's clear U have no fucking idea what abortion IS
feticide is the unlawful killing of a woman's fetus w/o HER PERMISSION and it's not murder in many states like new mexico, duh.
wikipedia org/wiki/Feticide ---research BEFORE commenting.
stalin and hitler has nothing to do with abortion being a civil and constitutional right in america, STRAWMAN.
i'm black woman...and MANY another black women decides for themselves to have an abortion.
you have no logic and no argument against abortion.
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@B
research BEFORE commenting.
abortion been on the earth since the dawn of man...the first documented abortion was done in ancient Egypt.
/wiki/History_of_abortion
and HOW is PP destroying the black race...if those black women chooses to abort their abort their black child?
so you think a black women should be breeding dogs and slaves to biology and to pro-life fascists' morality instead of excising their will, civil and constitutional right to abort?
U R not going to raise the child
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@BrandonClapp74
just answer the question, since you are morality trip.
"so you think a black women should be breeding dogs and slaves to biology and to pro-life fascists' morality instead of excising their will, civil and constitutional right to abort?"
and bitching about liberals= i can't think for myself against questions that conflicts with "freedom" and constitution.
margret sanger didn't do anything....black women wanted birth control and abortions= no one was forced to have either.
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BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
It maybe the womens body, but its the mans wallet that will take the hit for the next 18 years as he tithes a percentage of his wages to a child he did not want. Equality goes both ways dude.
matthewlane 1 year ago
men have everything to do with this issue. it was his sperm that fertilized the egg forming a baby. thus he should have a say regardless of it he does not know how it feels like to be pregnant .
and I doubt men know what goes on during an abortion so they should educate themselves on the procedure before saying anything about it. condoms are 10 bucks a pack .
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@GDProphetXVII
Shut up, you freaking retard!
If the man makes a mistake I don't want him punished with an unwanted child!
The woman's body doesn't mean crap!
undercover343 1 year ago
@undercover343 Shouldn't have made the mistake then. It's not hard to not get a girl pregnant if you really don't want it to happen.
Charmedlassie18 1 year ago
@Charmedlassie18 except when one side lies about the contraceptive measures they've taken, or if the contraceptive methods used fail (which happens). What happens when the woman in question DOES want to have a child, even though the couple had discussed it & decided not to?
matthewlane 1 year ago
@retardedwhore18
Men need to have the right to legally force women into an abortion if they don't want to have a child against their own will!
undercover343 1 year ago
@undercover343 Then women should be able to legally force men into wearing condoms or having the snip.
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@retardedyankwhore18
No, men need to have the right to legally force women into an abortion if they don't want to have a child against their own will!
undercover343 1 year ago
And the second part of my response is that if two people consensually copulate they are likewise responsible to the child they create. Culturally, I think our fierce commitment to individualism distorts our awareness of our own dependence on those around us. I fear that this distortion extends to the way we misunderstand an unborn child's dependent symbiosis with it's mother. A fetus is not like a gall bladder in the way it is a "part" of her body. A fetus is separate, but totally dependent
MattandKim2010 1 year ago
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"I fear that this distortion extends to the way we misunderstand an unborn child's dependent symbiosis with it's mother"
the fetus is a bio-parasite unto the woman's body.
The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the fetus, It secretes Neurokinin B containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their host.
wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregnancy
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@MattandKim2010
"My basic response to this video is that if a man "contributes" sperm and a baby is created he is responsible to care for that child and the child's mother."
a lot of the time that does happen= abortion is best option.
and legally no, a man has no right to a woman's body or the fetus inside her and is legally powerless to stop any abortion w/o the woman's consent, and can leave any time.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
"All he did was put sperm inside of this woman's body..." My basic response to this video is that if a man "contributes" sperm and a baby is created he is responsible to care for that child and the child's mother. Likewise, if a woman invites a man to put sperm into her body, it does not feel right to me that she would act to terminate her pregnancy apart from paternal consent. Is it outside the realm of possibility that he may want to be a father to this child?
MattandKim2010 1 year ago
Abortion is not man's business is only true once the man have no responsibility towards both keeping or bearing the child.
Once feminists like you give up the 18 years of responsibility on men then they have the right to make abortion only up to women only !
LiberalMeX2 1 year ago
"all you did is put sperm inside this woman's body" and half the child is genetically yours, which some men (hopefully) would be emotionally attached to. is it not some load on the father to have a fraction of the decision of whether they have a kid or not? I feel like the father would be expected to support the child if the mother keeps it so why should he not have a say in the abortion. Though I do feel like abortions should be limited to under 24s and not just for not wanting a kid.
EMYDreadnaught 1 year ago
Omg you are so political thanks man that makes me view things from a diffrent perspective and that will help me grow up to be a better person
appleipod7 1 year ago
Just as soon as men grow uteruses and get pregnant, then they can have a say in whether or not to have an abortion. You should only get to control your own body, not others.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
Fathers have a natural right to protect their children from being killed by abortion.
That law needs to be recognized and enforced by law.
RichKnight2010 1 year ago
@RichKnight2010 It's not a child yet and no,guys have no right to do anything because they're not the one who is going to go through absolute hell and have their body changed forever by a baby. If people could no longer have abortions then trust me,guys would have close to no sex life because NO woman would want to risk having a baby that they had no choice over. So if you want to "protect" your future child then don't have sex until you plan to reproduce. The end.
XPrettyXSceneXGirl 1 year ago
@RichKnight2010 Ok, when men can get pregnant, I'll support their legal right to choose whether or not to abort the fetus growing inside them. Seeing as how they can't, they don't get to have veto power over another person.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
Men aren't the ones who get pregnant in the first place.
shadowskilling13 1 year ago
"Since men cant get pregnant,they have nothing to say about abortion??" If that were true,doctors couldnt treat a disease unless they had it first.How could we train funeral directors when they have never died?How can we oppose Hitlers genocide if were not Germans or Jews,or slavery if we were not slaves or slave holders?In any case,each child has a father. &52% of all unborn babies are boys.
angelshoulders 1 year ago
umm. actually you don't realize how maternalistic this country is. i also think that so long as her choice causes $500 to be deducted out of the guys paycheck i think he should definitely have a voice in.
if women want to blaber on about "my body my rules so shut up" mantra then men should be able to get out of child support payments because if he was in the place of the woman he would have gotten the abortion.
anime1973 1 year ago
Why do men have no freedom when it comes to being a Father?You will raise the baby financially, or emotionally, and if you don't your a dead beat or arrested. If you want the baby and she terminates the baby that's an example of powerlessness,an example of having no control. You say you are about equality and freedom but your arguments are all in favour of women's issues and not men's. I think women should have a right to abortions but abortion clinics should not be subsidized in any way.
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@polutc says: Why do men have no freedom when it comes to being a Father
~~~~~~~~~~ It's simple. You could impregnant 10 women..would it be fair that you demand they all have these bebise because YOU want them to?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@polutc I agree. If women are stupid enough to have a baby you do not want and then have the nerve to ask you for child support, they don't deserve anything. If she's rich and can care for it herself, fine. If not, sorry, honey, but I'm not paying for that kid. I'd face jail time before I do that.
gorboy 10 months ago
@gorboy It is men like you that gives men a bad name. You have sex with a woman even if you wear a condom (note condoms are only 99.9% affective at avoiding getting a woman pregnant). IF a man is dumb enough to pump away and then let it all go in her then her should pay as it takes two to do the deed. Now if you were to have evidence that she got pregnent to just take money from you then by GOD fight it. And Ill pray that you win my friend
begley2015 10 months ago
With all due respect I disagree with you. Men do have a voice in this, for two reasons
1 because with men pay taxes and with those taxes the goverment finances abortion clinics.
2 because men will pay 18 years of child support and should have the right to avoid that responsability just like a woman can have an abortion.
Equal rights for men and women.
How it is a male dominated society if women make the expending and men make the money? Men give the money to women.
Hulkmania316 1 year ago
@Hulkmania316 says: because with men pay taxes and with those taxes the goverment finances abortion clinics
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Abortion is NOT government funded. Read the de Ammendment that says abortion will only be funded if a case of rape or incest! Maybe we should not allow you a choice because youre stuppid!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
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@Sueezee1 I didn't knew that. Well, stil men will pay 18 years of child support and should have the right to avoid that responsability just like a woman can have an abortion. So still men should have a say in this.
Hulkmania316 1 year ago
@Hulkmania316 That was supposed to be the HYDE ammendment.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
Patriarchical society ? Is this the same society that feminist writers say that every thrust of the heterosexual male is enforcing the subservience of women?
sting444 2 years ago
Of course, men want a say in their reproductive rights, with either a forced abortion or a "legal abortion" abdicating all responsibility of the child. If the child is not considered the property or responsibility of the man as it is of the woman, they it is indeed the woman's complete choice. As it stands, nine months of gestation is an important but relatively insignificant when compared to the investment of two decades of time, money and effort.
sting444 2 years ago
i completely agree with you on this.
2terence2jones 2 years ago
Thank you for speaking out. You views are much appreciated. Much hugs and lesbian luv. ;-) Gotcha! Seriously, you are correct in your analysis.
DianaBoston 2 years ago 2
Loving the smart look. haha
Im thinking that the woman is the one that should have the final say. Men can put there oppinion forward about it as much as they want, but in the endd, its not affecting them annywhere near as much and the cannot understand fully the consequences for either choice.
michaelsyoootube 2 years ago 7
You should not lean foward so much it makes your head look big and your hands look tiny.
MrBadassButch 2 years ago
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As a woman, I'd say that the woman is not the only one who faces the consequences. This isn't a gender issue at all for me--it's a human issue. If a woman chooses not to give birth to the baby forming inside her, she is denying the opportunity to live to that child. That's the issue of have of being "pro-choice" What about that child's choice? I know for a fact that if abortion had been socially acceptable, I would not be alive today.
scarletchord 2 years ago
This is the issue: Societies collectively decide what rights are to be afforded to all members of that society. In the USA, we have all agreed that all our citizens are entitled to the right to life. The meat of the discussion is whether or not the member of society deserving of that right exists while within the body of another, or the moment they exit that body. I personally think that all members of society are entitled to engage in that discussion and that decision.
RhythmDroid 2 years ago
I think you're right. Females should duke it out amongst themselves.
lastdancemaryjane1 2 years ago 2
damn, you look hot with glasses...
you seems to be forgetting that the male parent, by the mere fact of being genetically linked to the potential human, gains legal responsibility, which tells me, that giving the female a choice and leaving the male without a say in the subject would be wrong. since they both share responsibility, the should share the right to choose.
dbh2ppa 2 years ago
she is the one that carries the baby...and goes through the pain...so it's her choice to abort it.
warn81 2 years ago 7
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@warn81 "she is the one that carries the baby...and goes through the pain...so it's her choice to abort it."
Wrong.
SHE is the one who chose to have sex when she was not prepared to have a child,
SHE already made her choice, now, she has to live with that choice.
And yes, the man SHOULD have a say in it, that child doesn't belong to the mother alone, it's his child just as much as it is hers.
Jesus Christ this is easy stuff people. What's so hard to understand here?
NightwishGymnast15 11 months ago
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abortions is a man's business because men help bring that creature into this world.
I think women shouldn't have the choice to kill an innocent creature,if she doesn't want it she should give it up for abortion or better yet,she should keep her legs cross.
you're an idiot.
othsma 2 years ago
I'm sorry to disagree with on this one ..
the baby is a product of a man and a woman .. and whether or not it will be born is to be decided by both. If someone doesn't wanna take that responsibility than they shouldn't have to. If one of the parents - the man or the woman - doesn't want to have the baby. than they should have the option to abort
takeyoudownxxx 2 years ago
your opinion but legally and in reality, he doesn't share equal burden of the pregnancy as the embryo is using his body to live... therefore, he doesn't have an equal say, also he has no legal rights to the embryo because he has no legal rights over the woman's body...how you're going to say to a woman "you can't have an abortion," when it's inside her body...dude, stop being a fascist!
FREEAMERICANOW69 2 years ago 2
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@FREEAMERICANOW69 Pro-aborts keep saying that stories of horrific mills &the abortionists who run them are isolated. Pro-aborts avert their eyes to protect abortion,certainly not to protect women.I find it rather bazaar that you belittle the deaths of your prochoice sister who fall victim to the abortionists.You bury the truth right along w/the victims of abortions!I wish you could minimize the deaths the way you minimize these women!
angelshoulders 1 year ago
Glasses !!! :D. . I'm a sucker for hot guys wearing glasses ..
btw .. I'm watching a lot of your videos today. . you really make a lot of sense .. + you're really hot ..you're probably my biggest youtube crush :D
takeyoudownxxx 2 years ago 3
Everyone has the right to their own body but when it involves other human life (the father and/or child) the woman has to think of others. Honestly how hard is it too carry a baby for 9 months when you are given a father a child and a child a life?
dreamreality07 2 years ago
I have to disagree; I believe abortion is wrong - it is taking away another's life, which is murder (murder is illegal). You say "she's the one carrying it", well I can say this, once you've had a child you have to raise it, if you were to kill your child then it would be wrong and you would be arrested. The man SHOULD have a say as it is his baby as much as it is hers', it takes two to tango. I feel if they are not ready, then adoption would be a better option.
dreamreality07 2 years ago
no, sorry, he helped put it there but he doesn't share equal burden of the pregnancy, so why should he has equal say? also, he has no legal rights to the embryo because he has no legal rights to the woman's body...that's why men have no rights.
FREEAMERICANOW69 2 years ago
may be I didn't make my self clear .. if either of the parents don't want the child .. than they should NOT have it .. even if the other parent wants it ..
as I said before " If someone doesn't wanna take that responsibility than they shouldn't have to"
also I'm not American so I don't know the law there
takeyoudownxxx 2 years ago
you wrote in should be decided by both, sorry, for clearing that up.
FREEAMERICANOW69 2 years ago
legal legal legal! fuck legal, how about morals morals morals, if a women ever aborted my baby without my permission, i would fucking kill her and the abortionist!
if you put that baby in her then its as much yours as it is hers!
if what you say is written in stone then, abortion is 100% womens fault not man!
fukdyamum 1 year ago
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@fukdyamum
"how about morals morals morals"
because your morals are not recognized by law and in america, a woman has a 13th and 14th amendment right to have an abortion.
"i would fucking kill her and the abortionist!"
then you would get life in prison.
"if you put that baby in her then its as much yours as it is hers!"
you don't own the woman's body, therefore you don't have rights to the fetus until birth.
i wouldn't say fault, it's rights and it's 100% women's choice too.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@fukdyamum You'd kill her and her doctor, and you want to talk about morals? LOL you're insane.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
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exactly what the difference? if that's insane then so is a women aborting a baby without having to have consent from the father.
fukdyamum 1 year ago
@fukdyamum She doesn't need your consent. She owns her body, you don't. Having sex with her doesn't change that. Sorry if you don't like that.
What's insane is you saying you would kill people for doing something perfectly legal, and then claiming to have some kind of moral high ground.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
its a very small amount of women who will abort the mans baby without his permission ( yes we know women don't need permission), its just the few like you that let women down and don't do the right thing. you see my point though? having sex with a women and making a baby with her does make the BABY yours! just the same as making a baby makes a man responsible for child maintenance! otherwise we could just say well it came out of your body not mine! but that would lead to more abortions by women!
fukdyamum 1 year ago
@fukdyamum No woman ever needs permission. Very few women will not inform their boyfriends, and those who don't likely have good reason.
All you contributed is sperm, nothing more. She's not a bank you can invest in.
If you really want to regard a fetus as a baby, a person, then it really doesn't belong to anyone. You want it to be yours? Then take it into your body and give birth to it. Regardless of whose the 'baby' is, her body remains hers and she doesn't owe you, or the fetus use of it.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
yes I understand that! if that's the case then don't get pregnant if your not willing to keep it you slags, women asking for child maintenance is a double standard then it must be, I mean after all you say its not a mans responsibility, it came out of the womens body not the mans!
fukdyamum 1 year ago
@fukdyamum Punctuation and full sentences are nice.
Yes, it's ideal to never get pregnant in the first place. But it still happens and when it does it's up to the one who is pregnant to decide and take what is the most responsible course of action for them.
You don't get pregnant, so that's not you. I'm not being sexist for pointing that out, that's biology. It's not my fault you don't get a uterus and you lack of one does not give you licence to declare ownership over someone who does.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 watch?v=y_6hKiDRsaU&feature=watch_response
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
@JohananRaatz
sorry, i got better things to do like washing my hair and feeding my cat.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69 Well don't watch it right away, take your time. (it's about a certain kind of logical fallacy often used in abortion discussions -it doesn't get into whether or not abortion is good)
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
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Men need to have the right to legally force women into an abortion if they don't want to have a child against their own will!
undercover343 1 year ago
@undercover343 I dont think they should have the right to abort anything, but if they never opted in to having a child to start with & took measures to not have a child then they should not be held fiscally responsible for that child if the mother decides to keep it.
matthewlane 1 year ago
@retardeddouchebag
Another retarded mofo!
Men need to have the right to legally force women into an abortion if they don't want to have a child against their own will!
undercover343 1 year ago
@undercover343 Who said they did... If you read what i actually said, i said that if a man never opted in to having a child to start with & took all reasonable measures to protect against insemination of a sexual partner, then they should not be held fiscally responsible for that child if the mother decides to keep it.
Nothing was said about aborting the unborn child. You may want to read what is actually written before you post a reply. Also you may want to not open with the @ insults.
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@retardedmofo
Men need to have the right to legally force women into an abortion if they don't want to have a child against their own will!
undercover343 1 year ago
a baby belongs to a man as well.hescalled thefather.men shouldn't have to pay child support if its all about the woman.if the baby just belongs to her.your fucking stupid
sketzer1 2 years ago
I agree about the child support thing but he isn't stupid, he is very smart with a good heart, your and his opinions just disagree.
dreamreality07 2 years ago
life begins at conception
zydricpurdy 2 years ago
I agree with everything that you said - Great stuff ~ Hit the Nail on the Fucking head.
Iceickled714 2 years ago 6
The father should have at least a say in what happens to his child. If he's willing to raise the child then he should have the right to at least have his opinion heard. Ultimately, it is the woman's body, but it's not only her child. I do agree that she should have the choice, but shouldn't be able to go behind the father's back, sometimes without even telling him first.
Pixiesoapbox 2 years ago
I agree sebastian, on both points. As to youngoddme's coment, all living matter have souls. However the souls of the young are base souls with little within them, so little that it is more of useless mush than a soul.
Pro choice.
ruethgar 2 years ago
By the way, you're a lot cuter with longer hair. :)
SebastianMichael30 2 years ago 2
Other than rape, all abortions wouldnt need to happen if people started taking responsibility for their actions and using protection! I wouldnt want to bring a child into this screwed up world anyway.
SebastianMichael30 2 years ago
if a man gets raped can he have an abortion
carter20081985 2 years ago
lol
LovinHimIzEasy 2 years ago
abortion should at least be allowed for victims of rape who become pregnant. i would feel horrible for any woman who was forced to deliver a baby who was the result of an assult.
fixationamplified 2 years ago 3
I don't agree, its true that its a woman's body but not entirely her baby! the baby has a father also, so no it should not be the decision of the women only!
3ti3nn333 2 years ago
haha
What a ridiculous statement, kayleeXmarie, 'then close your legs, slut'...
I see you're fast at casting stones; must be you're more of a saint than Jesus.
Coz indeed, sex is ok only after a priest says so.
Haha.
Mandravedere 2 years ago
why don't they just ban sex then?
better solution for you krazie?
turtledove1993 2 years ago
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A man walks in to a store, he murders the clerk. He should go to jail. He's bad, evil, did wrong.
A woman gets a abortion. Killing a living being, killing a soul. But hey... it's ok.
Yea, makes sense, whatever.
KrazieCastaway 2 years ago
okay, now what i tell people when this topic is brought up is that it's my body, and i do not want to carry a child. i do not plan to have children at any point.
think about this: a baby at six months old doesn't know what it's really doing correct? or if it does, it won't remember it in the future. now a tadpole sized thing living inside of my stomach that i don't want gets to choose if it gets to live in my body when it doesn't even know it's really alive.
turtledove1993 2 years ago 2
when u had sex, u knew the risk of pregnancy... if you dont wanna carry a baby, or risk having to, dont have sex. simple solution.
laorbust2010 2 years ago
Don't want to get pregnant, dont have sex, what are you? a masterbating nun or monk,,, how unrealistic...
Mcnaughtyboy 2 years ago 3
But that's her choice since the baby is in her, and it is part of her. It's just like she is cutting off her hand.
cachdoan 2 years ago
Not all people have the same beliefs as you do. I don't believe an unborn fetus has a "soul". The US is supposedly founded on freedom of belief and freedom of choice. Constitutionally, you're entitled to your beliefs. But you are not entitled to impose them upon others.
youngoddme 2 years ago 4
First, he is not imposing his beliefs. Imposing his beliefs defined by Webster is to make people agree to something. He is simply stating his opinion. Which as you stated earlier is his constitutional right. Having said that, I am pro life. We do not have the right to kill a human being. As far as having a soul, the pope defines life as soon as the sperm meets the egg. Now I am bringing religion into this argument because its the support system to my belief on this issue.
thatJeramykid 2 years ago