This is the problem with a lot of the No comments on here like paddymourinho's. It shows their heads are in the clouds in relation to the reality of everyday life. They spout poetry and they refer to Ireland's past. These people seem closeted from the real world where you have to put bread on the table at the end of the week. We can all reminisce about Ireland's past when we have all emigrated if they have their way. They are nothing more than a bunch of dreamers and escapists!
I am aware of the ''reality of everyday life''. The difference is, you have got yourself trapped in the game, and because you are so involved in it, you judgement has become so warped that you now actually believe that it is better to be controled and have food, than be free and have responsibility...Its very sad.
Thank you all for your support over the last few weeks. For those of us who feel disheartened at the cowardice of the irish people, I point you to an excert from a poem by W.B Yeats
NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
I notice a lot of people under the age of 30 are against the EU. They clearly don't know what it was like before Ireland joined the EU. The EU was the body that truly made Ireland an independent nation. If we vote no and as a result the investors leave the country then you guys can just leave the country as you are young enough. As for the rest of us, you will of just condemned us to economic oblivion. Vote yes for our children's future.
I was under the illusion that WE made Ireland an independant nation!
I am also of the opinion that the EU are doing all they can to make sure Ireland become a DEPENDANT state in a european independant country. There are more important things than job investments....freedom for one.....wake up man, join the right side of history.
"There are more important things than job investments....freedom for one." I can't believe someone who is supposedly intelligent made that statement! Will this so-called freedom you describe put food in people's mouths when they have no jobs? Without job investment this country will just be a lump of rock in the Atlantic, empty of all it's people as they will have all emigrated! Get real people!
As so where it all went wrong, then, was getting independance from the British crown?
Nonsense!
Switzerland is a tiny place and being completely independent they prospered MASSIVELY. They did it by providing an environment that encouraged business.
No need to join a federal european state and, for the first time in 60 years, have an ENGLISH head of state.
Éire no more needs to be in the EU than it needed to be in the UK.
Éire go brách seems further away now than in living memory.
The Idea that a country with a population of 4,203,200 (July 2009 est.) can act as an Independent entity in the political framework of the world today is beyond logic.
Our neighbours france, germany, Uk have populations 15 times greater. that translates into economic strength whether you like it or not. Stronger nations rule the weak.
You said "important things like freedom"
"freedom" to be told what to do or freedom to decide with the rest of the club? you decide
Unelected bureaucrats truly wield the power in the EU.
An official response I had from one of my MEPs spelled it out explicitly:
"the EU Parliament cannot propose any changes to the law. That prerogative is restricted to the unelected EU Commission on which the founding and subsequent treaties confer the sole right to instigate new legislation. They are the only EU body with the competence (EU speak for power) to do this."
The votes made by our elected MEPs are no more than suggestions to the unelected Commission.
From the same response: "The Parliament is a consultative talk-shop with very little real power,
"The Commission is not bound by the Parliament and if it rejects a proposal it (the Commission) can, and often does, re-introduce it again at a time of its choosing."
Democracy in the EU? Not a prayer.
We do live without a constitution. It's terrible.
Give them a few years when they might have job in the US or another far away place (china) traveling home once a year to see their loved ones.. Not belonging there and feeling like a stranger when you were home in Ireland.
They have no understanding what the previous generation went through
if we vote yes that famous oul saying tiocfaidh ar lá will never happen our day will never come we will be ruled by the eu,my ancestors and yours will have fauth and died for notting, please vote no!
The EU is supposed to be a grouping of sovereign countries working together but the Lisbon treaty/constitution will change all that and turn the EU into a legal entity that is SUPERIOR in law to sovereign countries,laws and constitutions !
The EU didn't even have the decency to ask us if we wanted to become EU "citizens"...apart from the French,Dutch and brave Irish who ALL SAID NO !
The Swedish presidency is already working on an EU-wide ban on alchohol in shops !
right on brother.. if your organising a meeting for any evening let me know, il be there. i think it would be great if someone would burn shit loads of "End of Nations" and just hand them out to people.. dvd's dont cost the earth.. i dont have the rogramme to do.. am seein a mate later who is gonna look into it. just stand in a town or city for a saturday handing them out. i think end of nations is the one concise factually based non biased film that will make people think. cheers. B Kildare
Sorry for saying this but you're really cute!
endofearthdays 2 years ago 5
This is the problem with a lot of the No comments on here like paddymourinho's. It shows their heads are in the clouds in relation to the reality of everyday life. They spout poetry and they refer to Ireland's past. These people seem closeted from the real world where you have to put bread on the table at the end of the week. We can all reminisce about Ireland's past when we have all emigrated if they have their way. They are nothing more than a bunch of dreamers and escapists!
Foloman1 2 years ago
I am aware of the ''reality of everyday life''. The difference is, you have got yourself trapped in the game, and because you are so involved in it, you judgement has become so warped that you now actually believe that it is better to be controled and have food, than be free and have responsibility...Its very sad.
paddymourinho 2 years ago
Thank you all for your support over the last few weeks. For those of us who feel disheartened at the cowardice of the irish people, I point you to an excert from a poem by W.B Yeats
What need you, being come to sense,
But fumble in a greasy till
And add the halfpence to the pence
And prayer to shivering prayer, until
You have dried the marrow from the bone;
For men were born to pray and save;
Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
It's with O'Leary in the grave.
paddymourinho 2 years ago
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NO SIDE: Shinners, Ganley, Socialists, Coir, Eirigi, UKIP, Le Pen, BNP.
YES SIDE: all international chambers of commerce, most independent economists, 3 main political parties, IFA, IBEC, SIPTU, ICTU, most major trade unions, Pfizer, Ryanair, Intel, Microsoft.
Who you going to trust?
urfadder 2 years ago
The international community is watching. Do what you gotta do and we'll support you along the way. Fuck Barroso
Str8JacketMafia 2 years ago 2
I notice a lot of people under the age of 30 are against the EU. They clearly don't know what it was like before Ireland joined the EU. The EU was the body that truly made Ireland an independent nation. If we vote no and as a result the investors leave the country then you guys can just leave the country as you are young enough. As for the rest of us, you will of just condemned us to economic oblivion. Vote yes for our children's future.
Foloman1 2 years ago
The EU made Ireland an independant nation??
I was under the illusion that WE made Ireland an independant nation!
I am also of the opinion that the EU are doing all they can to make sure Ireland become a DEPENDANT state in a european independant country. There are more important things than job investments....freedom for one.....wake up man, join the right side of history.
paddymourinho 2 years ago
"There are more important things than job investments....freedom for one." I can't believe someone who is supposedly intelligent made that statement! Will this so-called freedom you describe put food in people's mouths when they have no jobs? Without job investment this country will just be a lump of rock in the Atlantic, empty of all it's people as they will have all emigrated! Get real people!
Foloman1 2 years ago
As so where it all went wrong, then, was getting independance from the British crown?
Nonsense!
Switzerland is a tiny place and being completely independent they prospered MASSIVELY. They did it by providing an environment that encouraged business.
No need to join a federal european state and, for the first time in 60 years, have an ENGLISH head of state.
Éire no more needs to be in the EU than it needed to be in the UK.
Éire go brách seems further away now than in living memory.
thirteenfingers 2 years ago
I think you are wrong paddy
The Idea that a country with a population of 4,203,200 (July 2009 est.) can act as an Independent entity in the political framework of the world today is beyond logic.
Our neighbours france, germany, Uk have populations 15 times greater. that translates into economic strength whether you like it or not. Stronger nations rule the weak.
You said "important things like freedom"
"freedom" to be told what to do or freedom to decide with the rest of the club? you decide
6079smythw 2 years ago
Nonsense.
JollyRoger31 2 years ago
Freedom is of utmost important.
Did you ever hear the expression that it's bettedr to live free than to die a slave?
If your logic is correct, and it isn't, but if it was, the mistake Éire made was gaining freedom from British rule.
Freedom, not to be told what to do, or to decide with the rest of the club... but to decide for YOURSELF.
The Yes vote just means unelected people with their ENGLISH president tell Éire what to do... again.
thirteenfingers 2 years ago 2
I have nothing against English people
I admire english people, I lived and worked with them for a long time.
more power to Tony Blair
you'r wrong about "unelected people"
It is you who lives in a country (UK) without a constitution....
6079smythw 2 years ago
Our elected MEPs hold no real power in the EU.
Unelected bureaucrats truly wield the power in the EU.
An official response I had from one of my MEPs spelled it out explicitly:
"the EU Parliament cannot propose any changes to the law. That prerogative is restricted to the unelected EU Commission on which the founding and subsequent treaties confer the sole right to instigate new legislation. They are the only EU body with the competence (EU speak for power) to do this."
UNELECTED!
thirteenfingers 2 years ago
The votes made by our elected MEPs are no more than suggestions to the unelected Commission.
From the same response: "The Parliament is a consultative talk-shop with very little real power,
"The Commission is not bound by the Parliament and if it rejects a proposal it (the Commission) can, and often does, re-introduce it again at a time of its choosing."
Democracy in the EU? Not a prayer.
We do live without a constitution. It's terrible.
Tony Blair is a truly terrible person.
thirteenfingers 2 years ago
Thankyou for saying the above Foloman1
I couldn't put It better
Give them a few years when they might have job in the US or another far away place (china) traveling home once a year to see their loved ones.. Not belonging there and feeling like a stranger when you were home in Ireland.
They have no understanding what the previous generation went through
God! I sound like my father LOL LOL
6079smythw 2 years ago
nice job mate, u dont have to cinvince me i know what ther at
paddioche 2 years ago 2
if we vote yes that famous oul saying tiocfaidh ar lá will never happen our day will never come we will be ruled by the eu,my ancestors and yours will have fauth and died for notting, please vote no!
gizmo106983 2 years ago 3
great job, Declan is back,:)
every person helps the cause, change title of the vid to lisbon HQ, and you may get mixed viewers.
CHEERS
AND A RESOUNDING NO TO LIS/CON 2
lisbonslayer 2 years ago 3
vote no vote no
02amcevoy 2 years ago
best of luck
sirhcelah 2 years ago
Hey man, luck means nothing. Get up off ur arse and DO something if you really care about this...
paddymourinho 2 years ago
The EU is supposed to be a grouping of sovereign countries working together but the Lisbon treaty/constitution will change all that and turn the EU into a legal entity that is SUPERIOR in law to sovereign countries,laws and constitutions !
The EU didn't even have the decency to ask us if we wanted to become EU "citizens"...apart from the French,Dutch and brave Irish who ALL SAID NO !
The Swedish presidency is already working on an EU-wide ban on alchohol in shops !
No2Lisbon2 !
Spenner56 2 years ago
SOS Ireland
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PikeSdream 2 years ago
right on brother.. if your organising a meeting for any evening let me know, il be there. i think it would be great if someone would burn shit loads of "End of Nations" and just hand them out to people.. dvd's dont cost the earth.. i dont have the rogramme to do.. am seein a mate later who is gonna look into it. just stand in a town or city for a saturday handing them out. i think end of nations is the one concise factually based non biased film that will make people think. cheers. B Kildare
cno10018 2 years ago 5
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TOTALITARIAN STATES have 5 things in common.
1.They grant their officials and police immunity from prosecution (Europol & EU officials have immunity).
2.They have their own elite para-military (European Gendarmerie Force).
3.They have a "superior" court not independant of the system (European Court of Justice).
4.Are intent on monotoring their "citizens" (Stockholm program).
5.Have an un-elected "executive" that issues "directives" (the commission).
Please save democracy again Ireland !
Spenner56 2 years ago
Vote No again. This is a Trojan Horse. Send it back to where it came from again!
MsCread 2 years ago 7
. . fair play to you my friend, your doing a good job of standing up for your own people . .
knightrider600 2 years ago 9
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No to Lisbon.Check out the vid on my channel.
UndefeatedArmy09 2 years ago