Re: The True Western View about Tibet and China

[halcyonhalogen]

Yes, I need to think before speaking, I know. It's a long time now since I made that video. It was a personal view based on my own experiences. I hope the situation in Tibet and China has improved and I wish everyone well.

[emptyna]

there are a few mistake which you made

1. only the monk and their follower want to be independent. while the majority of the population in tibet don't want to be rule by god.

2. dai lai was once a tyrant, he make all sort of human sacrifice, which include make instrument from peasant's bone, eye ball or other body part, and claim to do it for the sake of god.

3. yea yea you may have touch some budhism stuff in europe, but really what you are seeing is just a fake image.. it was never like it

[halcyonhalogen]

Yeah, OK. Thanks for commenting. I've left it all behind me now. I stay away from trouble; most of the time. Religion has really caused a lot of the problems anyway. So best to be content with who we are, without needing to bow down to other human beings or to unwisely worship things we have little understanding of. Anyway, like I say, I'm out of the game. Thanks again for taking the trouble to let me know your thoughts. Mind how you go. Stay safe; and be good! :-) See you.

[emptyna]

true, what really happen is not something that we can really know.. both chinese and western media cannot be fully trusted. though i do see entire street been burn down by those.. well not like we can do anything anyways lol.. see you =)

[emptyna]

before you speak of something.. would you mind have a little thinking about it? i mean you barely talk about anything about the topic..

and you say it is not good that people are hurt.. there are around 100 innocent peasant been murder or missing during the riot of tibet.. a few burn to death alife by those monk and their follower.. over thousand of people were hurt seriously..

also tibet have become a province since thousands years ago.. it is not a small country..

[halcyonhalogen]

Thanks for you kind comment. My reply is posted below. All the best.

[rpcunited]

To the exiles, I hope you stand by your parents' choice and find a new life elsewhere. Your anger and violence are doing no good to humanity, but to bring shame to the brutality of feudalism and to shed lights on your history of slavery.

Your religious is not going to rule Tibet again neither. The regular 95% of Tibetans are living a better life now, thanks to your parents and Dalai's choice to leave in 1959.

Contrary to what Tibetan exiles tries to portrait, I am not a communist.

[viethluu]

You are not a communist? I don't believe so. Prove that.

[rpcunited]

I find it ironic that you don't believe I am not a communist. Do you believe all Pro-Chinese government people are communist?

Keep in mind that I am only speaking of the Tibetan exiles, the brutal feudalism, and increased standard of life in the modern days; not the rest of the Chinese politics.

If you send me in private a clear definition of "communist", I may consider showing you some proof.

[emptyna]

excuse me.. but who have been attack? do you mean tibet people? please check this out *Dalai Lama: slave owner of Tibet *Killing in Tibet - Reveal the History! history fact: *Tibet people are Zang race *Zang race is one of the race in China(china have 56 race) *only 1/2 of the Zang people live in Tibet *tibet are rule by noble and monk *dalai require human life scarefice.. *dalai murder many voice in country *dalai posion people's mind, brainwash them *95% of the tibet people are slave

[Freealll]

these communist are trying to change the topics so beware, TIbet issue is not just political but most of all its about fundamental human rights and values.. so when ever these chinese communist feel they are exposed they try to change the topic by twisting the reality... communism will never succeed...

[rpcunited]

Hi Freeall, not all Chinese are communist. But most tibetan separatist are exiles. On the other hand, 99% tibetans living in China are happy with the improved life standard after the liberation. I hope the exiles who chose to leave the country will find another life.

[Freealll]

hey u got to know some more, visit india where Tibetan exile government then u will get the real idea. Tibetans have already decided once Tibet get freedom it will be democratic government not by any religious figure and more than that Tibetan government in exile is already completely democrated will all its ministers directly elected. so ur notion of religion ruling future Tibet is unfounded sorry

[halcyonhalogen]

Yes, I agree. I'm poorly informed. I hope the Tibetan people get to where they want to be with all this. I'm glad things have quietened down. China is obviously a big and powerful place. Everyone must try to behave well. Including me! Thanks for your comment.

[Freealll]

I think you shouldn't behave when so many people in China and Tibet are oppressed so brutally. Around 1 million Tibetans were killed china invaded Tibet from 1949 to 1959, over a thousand monastries destroyed and right now in Tibet you will imprisoned for more than three years for just speaking about freedom, so do you think its right to just behave, I think as citizen in a democratic country we have the responsibility to speak for those oppressed people in Tibet..

[FreeTheTruth1]

Freealll, here's your freedom of religion and democracy. View video

watch?v=DjSzKAx6gZc

[halcyonhalogen]

Too complicated now for me to understand. I watched the video, thanks. But it's beyond me. People problems - that's enough. When folk start arguing about deities then it's time to leave the room. Good luck in getting it all sorted.

[Freealll]

these communist are trying to change the topics so beware, TIbet issue is not just political but most of all its about fundamental human rights and values.. so when ever these chinese communist feel they are exposed they try to change the topic by twisting the reality... communism will never succeed...

[FreeTheTruth1]

Freealll, what the heck? You are out of your mind and way over paranoid. The facts are clear and you are doing whatever you can to undermind it.

[Freealll]

another attempt to twist the reality, these communist are insane... they know we know they lie all the time.. but still haha... please ur messages just shows how evil u guys are

[rpcunited]

I support Olympic 2008 in Beijing as much as other international sport events in China. While most countries and politicians fade away from the Olympic game spirits, Chinese people in China and those who emigrated to other countries, continue to stay upbeat and demostrate their compassion and hospitality all around the world.

To the fellow Tibetan, I feel sorry for your precious leader has left you and enjoying the life of royalty, I wish he could give up his fame and go back to Tibet.

[letshyphylets]

Compassion? Like smashing Tibetan faces in? For an event that is all about selfishness and meaningless athletics that will be used to give legitimacy to a government that has killed 90 million people? you must be kidding right?

I feel sorry for you Chinese. You are incapable of introspection and you act like slaves of the evil CCP.

[rpcunited]

No offense but save your sorrow for yourself... I am a proud Chinese who has a great life. I am not an exile. I have both feet on the ground and most important of all, my government recognize me.

I have added a new post for you and other fellow bloggers up at the top.

[letshyphylets]

UTEengineer, your arguments are crap. Learn how to use sources with discretion and think outside of the box, you red guard!

[halcyonhalogen]

Hypocrisy - yes, there's a lot of it about! It's not so easy to be virtuous, whether you're Tibetan, Chinese, British or whoever.

The thing is to try to make a workable solution to the different calls for freedom. We all want to be free. But it's not so easy as who shouts the loudest or how many policemen you have or how clever you are. People are able to endure much hardship. Life is full of suffering, including my own. How we deal with it is very important. May peace prevail. And so it shall.

[xinjiangfreedom]

Shame on you- living freely in the west but trying to deny human rights to the people in China and Tibet. What a hypocrit.

[UTEEngineer]

the dog finally showing the dog teeth

[xinjiangfreedom]

???? Is this really a response? Makes no sense to me, but maybe you don't have any logical argument to explain the aggression and violence of your government. I agree with the post below, everyone wants to be free, and human rights and peace should be for everyone.

[letshyphylets]

The dog? The only dog around is you! Plus, you aren't even capable of thinking for yourself! Talk about hypocrisy!

You are a little bitch- you don't even put your face online. At least this Scot, as misled and ignorant as he is, has the courage to do that!

Oh, and thanks for being a censorious coward and blocking me! Shame on the evil party!

[halcyonhalogen]

No, I'm not a Scot as it happens. Misled and ignorant, yeah I can believe that. Are you from the Solomon Islands? Where are they then? Anyway, life is for living. I guess we all better get on with it.

[LAYGPOT]

Yes. Life is for leaving, better not waste it spewing ignorant BS here. You think Tibet is not a worthy cause just because one monastery failed to give direction to your lost soul!

[halcyonhalogen]

Hold on there Friend! I had a run-in with the manager, yes. But I recovered from it. To be honest my wee video was not well thought-out. But it was sincere. What has been happening in Tibet is difficult for me to make sense of. I said my tuppence-worth, that's all. To me these things are painful and I sympathise because my life has been troubled too. My soul is much restored now and I try to interest myself in what's going on. Long live the right to speak freely! Thank you.

[UTEEngineer]

Thank you for the response. I really like how you've put it. If we take a large step back and look at it, we'll see that this whole tibet thing is like theocracy making a come back. It's obviously not a modern social system. Thumbs up for your response! TYVM

[letshyphylets]

One more time- Jin Jing is a vile bitch! You are a brainwashed, incapable of thinking, coward who dares to defend the evil CCP and the 90 million people it has murdered. Shame on you! Thanks for blocking me, now you have made a permanent enemy. You haven't seen the last of me, you UTEENGINEER coward!

[letshyphylets]

UTEEngineer- you Chinese really stink at anything but math and science. Your feeble arguments and lack of critical thinking betray your weaknesses at liberal arts.

Learn some science of argumentation, then come back to youtube. Right now, you are a self congratulating little bitch!